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LTNS: Episodes 3-4

LTNS continues its adults-only black comedy, pushing the limits of what we call a K-drama into new and graphic territory. Our leading couple is on to bigger targets this week as they persist in blackmailing adulterers for cold hard cash. But with some serious moral quandaries to contend with, the drama doesn’t make it easy to decide who exactly are the heroes.

 
EPISODES 3-4

Well, if anybody felt shocked at what the drama delivered last week, that was only the beginning, my friends. The thing I’m liking about this material, though, is that it’s pushing boundaries in ways that fit the story it’s telling and, as we see this week, its pushing social boundaries as well. I liked these episodes better than last week’s, even if they made me far more uncomfortable.

We begin with two things: a new extramarital affair to peek in on and a glimpse of our leads trying yet again to put some fire back into their marriage. This time, they’re having a meal at home together while dressed up as each other’s fantasies (him in a military uniform and her in glasses — I don’t know why that makes me laugh).

But as before, their efforts don’t get far, and then they have a huge fight. Jin doesn’t feel like Samuel is really trying, but he’s confused because the costumes were her idea (“I’m doing everything you asked!”). Well, she wants him to participate, not just follow orders.

LTNS: Episodes 3-4

She picks up to leave and he accuses her of always running away when they argue. She yells back that this is why they stopped trying to work on their marriage, because they always trip over the same problems. (Excellent writing in this scene. These two are so believable.) She storms out and spends the night at the hotel where she works — only to stumble on the new cheater they’ll be following around in this episode.

Now that she’s landed them a new target, Jin goes home before either she or her husband is ready to apologize. So, they decide to act like business partners and keep their personal life separate. The new plan is to go after bigger fish so they can get out of the blackmail business altogether. Once they earn enough to replace the money they lost on buying their apartment, they’ll call it quits.

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The new adulterers they’re tailing are in their 60s and both married to other people. The first stakeout has our newbie criminals on a floating guesthouse, where their targets are across the water in the guesthouse next door. Samuel swims over to catch the couple in coitus and then swims back to Jin half frozen to death, but with firm photo evidence.

Jin softens her tone and dries Samuel’s hair, and then switches back to speaking banmal (indicating they’re a couple again and not just business partners). They both apologize for how they’ve been acting, and then decide to sip soju and work on their marriage through fake phone sex (that is, sitting beside each other and talking dirty while pretending to be on the phone).

The fake turns physical when they kiss — and realize it’s been so long they’ve forgotten how. Welp, another swig of soju and they’re trying to remember. It’s not clear how far they go past kissing, but in the next scene they’re sleeping in separate beds.

With their new plan to collect bigger sums of money, our leads decide to send threatening letters to both parties in the cheating couple this time, rather than just one. They figure since both are married, they’ll both be willing to fork over the cash. But it doesn’t work out as planned — at all.

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On the part of the woman, rather than leaving cash in the pickup spot, she leaves a heart-wrenching letter, detailing the years she endured in an awful marriage. She says that the man she’s having an affair with makes her feel happy and seen. She won’t give them any money, but hopes they won’t get in the way of her happiness.

And on the man’s side, he refuses to give up any money until Samuel agrees to meet him in person. So, Samuel goes, and gets the living daylights knocked out of him, spitting teeth before he collapses on the ground. But the crazy thing is that afterward, the guy wants to give him the money! He was moved by the blackmail photos of him and his mistress (lol) and makes Samuel sign a contract as a photographer. Then he deposits the cash immediately — minus the taxes. Haha. This is the essence of the show’s dark sense of humor.

With another case under their belts, our crime-committing duo moves on to their next adulterous couple — and this time it’s two women, one of whom is married to a man. Now, I’ve gotta pause here and point out how groundbreaking this is. We see these two women getting down to business, the same way we saw the 60-year-olds. Say what you want about how graphic it is, but even in shows that only allude to sexual behavior, we don’t usually see either of these pairs of people represented.

So anyway, this goes on to be a pretty serious episode, dealing with issues of gender, class, sexuality, and tradition. Plus, the two women in the affair are having a hard enough time on their own without Jin and Samuel coming along to make things worse. If I had any inkling of doubt about whether or not we should be rooting for our leads, it becomes a glaring question from here on out.

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The situation is that the married woman has a rich mother-in-law that treats her like an abused maid, and after a lot fretting around and breaking her girlfriend’s heart, the woman finally realizes just how little she’s valued in her marriage and decides to leave.

But this is only after our meddling twosome sends her incriminating photos asking for a large chunk of cash. At first, she’s upset and blames her girlfriend for the photos. The girlfriend — a stuntwoman by trade — vows to track down the blackmailers and kill them. On the night of the cash pickup, Jin and Samuel ride off on a motorcycle with their goods, and Ms. Stuntwoman chases them down on her own motorcycle.

Jin and Samuel split up when they can’t outrun her and Samuel ends up crashing into a car and getting knocked out with a concussion. And then Jin gets caught and beat up in a gruesome scene where she loses teeth and is punched in the nose way too many times. But in the end, Jin is spared thanks to the married woman she’s just ripped off. The woman says she’s leaving her marriage and wants to be with her girlfriend for real, so there’s no reason to waste any more time on these two crooks.

We end with a twist. Samuel is in his hospital bed after the concussion and makes a call to a woman. He says it’s been a while since they talked. Then he tells her he was in a big accident and when he woke up she’s the person he thought of. Does she want to meet?

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And there goes my idea that our central couple is rekindling their romance! Still, I like how morally complicated this is getting. I can’t dislike our leads, but am I on their side? Who is worse here? The cheaters? Or the blackmailers? The drama definitely aimed to give us reasons to have empathy for the cheaters this week. And what about Samuel? Is he about to join their ranks? We’re more than halfway through and our characters are changing — which is what I want, but not necessarily in this direction.

The drama is getting darker as it goes on. And I was struck (in a good way) by how many serious social issues these episodes packed in. One of the writers behind the script also penned the movie Moonlit Winter — about two women in love who can’t be together — and here we see a continuation of the theme, but with different outcomes. I’m impressed by the writing, and even more so by the direction, which makes this feel like an indie film rather than a drama.

Apart from the questionable ethics of their chosen profession, our leads are also pretty bad at what they do. Every time they deliver a blackmail note it leads to violence. Either the adulterous couple fights and breaks up or one (or both) of our leads gets bloodied to a pulp. And worse, they always receive way less money than they ask for! Alas, even if they couldn’t make it as criminals, I was hoping they’d make it as a couple. Now, I’m not so sure. As we head into the finale next week, I have no idea what to expect — but I can’t help but be excited about it.

LTNS: Episodes 3-4

 
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I'm picking up serious marriage tips from LTNS. Anytime I'm feeling one down in an argument, I will insist that we start using polite speech and everytime my partner slips up and speaks to me with familiarity, I shall point and shout, "Oh, oh...반말!"

Also, I know that if I ever lose a tooth in a fist-fight with an adulterer, it will be because, I, too, am partially to blame for the situation. All other injuries will be their fault entirely.

Lastly, as has always been the case, people in glass houses should not throw stones. Marriages are built, and can be unbuilt, each and every day we spend together.

I, like @dramaddictally, have become quite interested in seeing where the writer is going with this. At six episodes total, even if the last two hours implode--which might actually be intentional, and spectacular--I will be there to see it.

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@attiton, if you are ever at risk of losing a tooth in a fist-fight or anything else, I will happily be your shield. I bite. I kick. And I can inflict terribly deep emotional wounds.

And as soon as I find a tutorial for martial arts on YouTube, they won't even know where to hide from me!

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Cecee, I really needed this today. Thank you!!

PS: Can we wear our little pointy boots as we fight?? I have mine right here...

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Yes, yes, yes: pointy boots, sparkly jackets, shiny outfits... Wait, this sounds like superheroes costumes... We need hero names!

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I think lead couple could have taken lesson from lead couple in Beautiful world in how marriage should be. I guess to me it is more compelling seeing how they both loves their kids and how they comes together when their son life is at stake.

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This drama is a mess, lol. Everyone is awful. Honestly, I only like the married lesbian, her partner had issues. She understood what it was.

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I felt invited by LTNS to place the stuntperson's mental state in the context of her options.

If you are in love with someone truly quite deeply, and if what is standing between you and the emotional and physical expression of that love, is NOT a lack of reciprocation from your loved one, but instead the societal expectations on the both of you that you have been able to shed but that she cannot and you don't want her to change...what might that do to you?

Can we even trust the promise made by the end of episode 4 to "date?" The tension is real.

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I understand her mental state, it is still unstable. When you are in love with someone who can't love you back the way you want, move on. Don't become unhealthy and unhinged, which she was for love of a woman who couldn't or wouldn't love her back. I am not speaking of her beating up the FL, i am speaking of when she almost broke the other stunt person's arm because she was frustrated. That is unhealthy and unhinged. No defense for me.

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…and even then, in hands of a competent writer, this can be ok, as long as it’s written well. Succession is full of awful people but we ate it up and “switched off” our “moral” brain because it was so well executed and funny. There’s nothing funny in this show.

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Yes, great example.

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None of us is perfect and we can all be cowards at important moments and/or angry at what we consider cowardly behaviour when we are ready to be brave. I think that while the adulterers last week were somewhat one-dimensional, this week's pairs were quite real in comparison, and rather than it being a cheap fling were committed to each other. In fact it was the marriage situations that were cheapening them, but even so they had done their best there too.

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This show’s vibe is like of a horny teenager dropping their pants and exposing themselves and screaming, “see now, look at me, how cool I am, how adult-y I am!” This show is ridiculous. It’s boring and unfunny and totally unsexy. The fact they explicitly talk about sex in a language of Tinder DM’s is so-so cringe. I hate every character, and if don’t hate that character I find them more boring than a toothache. (Probably, the only likable character was a lesbian girlfriend who - kid you not - I cheered for knocking in some sense into this couple.)

And omg that main couple. So unlikable. So pitiful. I understand the show means to show us as them living vicariously through the cheating couples they tail and hopefully find the magic / purpose again but all they come across as creeps and scared children who “forgot how to kiss”. What do they even quarrel about? All they do is talk about trying again but none of them makes even a slightest effort. (You know, like, setting up mood, going on a vacation/staycation, hiring a sex therapist, getting prescription, etc.) And that unsexy dialogue, lol! “I got wet the moment I thought about you.” Cringe. You know, guys, maybe you are not attracted to each other because you were never to begin with. You just slept together and liked it and fancied yourselves in love and decided to get married and forgot to have sex in the meantime. Just divorce already and put yourselves (and your viewers) out of the misery of your own making.

I’m only watching this so I can occasionally get angry at how stupid and uncreative they treat such sensitive issues as sex and marriage and IN PARTICULAR such a sensitive issue as sex in marriage. And, No, this show is not even 0.0001% sexy and creative and groundbreaking and funny as Sam-Soon or What’s Up Fox, both of which hail from early aughts. This show’s existence was never even needed.

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I like how the show portrays the couples sympathetically - we are not supposed to root for the main leads.

I'm glad Woo-jin finally had some literal skin in the game and saw for herself how dangerous what they're doing is. Unfortunately, it might be too late. HOWEVER, I read a theory that the woman Samuel called was a woman he cheated on, likely with Woo-jin. We shall see - but my interest is definitely piqued

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Uh oh, no 🤦‍♀️

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It might have been his mother. Umma, my wife is a crazy bitch that bullies me into danger and shows up afterwards to dry my hair.

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@dramaddictally Thanks for the recaps. I mentioned in earlier recaps that the drama was addressing some of the twisted social constructs in a light manner, but now the mood is sombre. I am befuddled as to where they are going with the show, but I still find the leads to be interesting and their methods to resolve their issues fascinating. Ep 4, made us, viewers to sympathize with the lesbian couple. Also, I did not mind the graphical scenes in earlier episodes, but the opening of Ep 3 was not funny and sick.

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If you're talking about the harmonica technique that made me laugh out loud.

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The weecaps make this sound so interesting and different I've ever seen or heard about in kdramas. Based on the weecap, I think the moral gray that story is playing around with is cool because life *can* be gray.

I really am surprised the show is willing to go there with the couples featured so far. The couples this week seem far more sympathetic compared to "typical" cheating scenarios.

It's probably a good thing this is a short run series because I'm not sure many can take the moral ambiguity and blatant sexuality in a kdrama.

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Yes, it's very gray and I love that about this show

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What can be worse than demented chaebols and serial killers?

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I was quite impressed by the actors who played the support cast. They found actors we can see in a lot of dramas.

They spend so much time to blackmail people, he doesn't even work anymore. So they need more money... After being caught and beaten, I thought they will rethink it but no, they continued and it became very dangerous with a pursuit on the road and then she was beaten. I don't understand why the 2 people still accept to pay them after that. It didn't make any sense. They clearly didn't learn anything.

They should divorce because their issue is not only sex. They are very different too.

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I thought maybe Samuel would find photography enjoyable and set upon a new career path, but nope

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I think the blackmail dangers will prove to be effective foreplay. 😄

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If they need to be beaten for that...

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I've been waiting to see if anyone or anything can make Jin feel empathy for their victims, or for anyone at all - including Samuel. It's a tribute to Esom's performance that she hasn't come across as a monster so far, but her actions are monstrous. "People deserve to suffer because I suffer" is as far as she gets with a moral code.

Both of the women in the ep. 4 affair are pitiable, but I felt worse for the stuntwoman, Cho Won. Her married lover, Soo-ji, may be trapped by rigid social expectations and prejudice, but it's her choice to initiate contact repeatedly, lead Won on, and ditch her at a moment's notice when her mother-in-law beckons, rather than letting her go definitively. She's self-absorbed, Won is obsessive and violent, and that relationship is doomed.

Was anyone else as stunned as I was by a quasi-positive depiction of cannabis use? We can glimpse why people would want to use it to find relief from stress or give them a moment of pleasure. Of course, the show can't leave it there and has to follow it up by giving Jin and Samuel the worst hangovers of their lives and making them vow to never do that again. 🙄

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I was shocked by the quasi-positive depiction of weed, up until the next morning. I was like, hold on, that is a pretty accurate depiction. lol.

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“Let’s be gourndbreaking, Show, but not so groundbreaking as to remind people to never do cannabis again because you can actually be sentenced from six months to four years in prison for using drugs in SK.” 🙄

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Yes, Jin is pretty cold. I think she's too removed from the situation to care, not just about empathy for the victims but also the huge danger she's putting Samuel in. That changed in ep 4 (well, not the empathy part, but the danger part) when she finally experienced a negative consequence for herself.

Also, going to sleep overnight in a hotel whenever they have a fight is not great. She definitely played a part in their marital problems.

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