@cloggie @minnetter @hotcocoagirl Lol I feel like the plots used in dramas are very similar to classic romance novels.
-Sense and Sensibility: The tale of survival of two poor chaebol heiress sisters in Hell Joseon. The eldest is an executive and the most clear-headed and the youngest falls into a Candy fantasy. And their mother is irresponsible. Eldest’s love interest is a heir who is clearly a noble idiot standing to his gentlemanly principles, and youngest ‘s love interest is a well-off widower who is nearly two decades older than her.
-Persuasion: The reunion of first love – male lead has become a self-made man after his so-called stint in America and female lead has regressed to a Candy with a self-absorbed family.
-Northanger Abbey: Country bumpkin who has gotten her literary education from chaebol dramas visits Seoul and thinks male lead’s family is in some kind of heritage conspiracy drama. She is also mistaken for a heiress so male lead’s fatherplays cupid for both of them, until he starts trashing his fancy office when he discovers heroine’s origins.
(I really don’t know why the heroine in this story has fallen for male lead and there are not much interactions between them)
-Emma (there is already Clueless): Heroine is a sociallite who always bickers about her matchmakings and ideal men with her snarky cousin many-times removed. Who is also hot. I can totally see Jo Bo-ah as female lead.
-Mansfield Park: Heroine is considered as a maid to her relatives but she is the only one who truly loves her uncle. Hero is too stupid to realize that heroine is the “one” only after she has her makeover sheesh.

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    @sooyi
    totally off topic but how do you manage to have such a long post on the 1st go on your Fan Wall? mine restricts me to 200 characters…

    oh and CLUELESS was THE teenage movie 😘

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      Some beanies say that they write their text on Notes and they paste it clicking ‘paste’ on their phone or computer. I was wondering the same until I randomly found the tip 🤗
      I have to say the same thing about Clueless because the writers knew perfectly what they were doing.

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    I agree wholeheartedly! Thank you for continuing this conversation @sooyi
    Sticking to Jane Austen for this discussion,
    -S&S: I love the idea of a Joseon setting, all of the relations between the characters can stay the same with that, the half brother inheriting, the women going under the protection of their distant cousin, Brandon as the silent warrior friend of said cousin who was too busy fighting in war to be married though he still loves music, Edward Ferrars as a scholar with strict principles which leaves him forced to act as a noble idiot when manipulated by the upstart Lucy (a village girl who asserts herself as the distant cousin of the rich widow Jennings), and finally Willoughby. I think Willoughby should have a mane of glory, and appear as a carefree youth who gives everyone serious Second Lead Syndrome, until it’s revealed that he plays the charming rascal to many women. My only worry is that Sageuks often have political side plots, and I’m not sure how that would work in (unless through the Honorable Miss Morton that the Ferrars wish to join their family with).
    -Persuasion: it’s a classic story, hard to go wrong with it, but Anne should be a candy piano player, that nows teaches music to spoiled rich kids and feels herself the background character as she appears in many expensive restaurants and parties just playing the music to other people’s lives. Or maybe meeting Wentworth again inspires her to follow her dream of being a musician, despite her family’s embarrassment. Of course Wentworth is a selfmade man after America.
    -NA: She meets Tilney at a party, same as in the novel. She’s there *trying* to party with the fake friends she made when she first came to Seoul. He finds her naivety and simple wisdom charming, and that she so unabashedly likes him and doesn’t play the games other city girls do.
    -Emma: I want there to be historical epilogues to the modern episodes which show how Emma would have gone down in Goryeo, Joseon, the 1930s, the 1990s, etc. It would be hilarious.
    -MP: Oh gosh a makeover scene ~ that’s either Maria’s wedding or the ball when her brother is visiting, but by then Edmund is in too deep in his relationship with Mary Crawford (I vote the ball, because then us Beanies can throw things because Henry Crawford fell for her before then).

    Sorry, you unknowingly invited a Jane Austen addict to talk…

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      @HotCocoaGirl A fellow Jane Austin addict really wants a fellow addict to keep on talking haha.

      I love your renditions of the novels: especially Northanger Abby and Persuasion: my two personal favorites 😀

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        Thank you fellow addict! I think the next step is casting these dramas ~

        Ah, I’m so glad to hear those are your favorites, Northanger Abbey especially gets ignored a lot. In my case each novel has spent time as my favorite, so it’s hard for me to pick favorites now ^_^

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          Yay for Northanger Abbey love! It’s such a sarcastic novel, which is why I love it so much!! Especially Henry Tilney: he has too much sass haha. I wonder who I would cast him in K-drama world? I think JJ Field was perrrfect by the way

          As for persuasion, I really want Shin Hye-sun to play Anne–I think she would fit that strong character-turned-into-shy-pianist role perfectly!!

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            Hehehe, Henry Tilney is my ideal man, and JJ Field played him purrfectlyyyy. I can’t decide who should play him, it needs to be an intelligent, sarcastic yet responsible, and good looking of course. I think Catherine Morland is one of the few instances where I feel a rookie actress might be perfect, since she is supposed to seem wide eyed and unbelievably naive ~

            I agree for Shin Hye-sun, now we need a Wentworth. It needs to be someone that is charismatic, upright, and manly, but also has underlying pettiness that only his close friends (and Anne) see. What about Lee Dong Wook or Yoon Park?

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            @HotCocoaGirl Lee Dong Wook is so perfect for Wentworth!!! I need to see him in a uniform stat!

            Rookie actress…like a charming idol? What do you think about Jung Hae in for Tilney?? He was so good with a simialarish character as batcop… I agree with you:Tilney is by far my favorite Austin hero!!

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            @goldenaddiction
            A charming idol would be perfect! I haven’t seen Jung Hae in before, but I’ll trust you if you think he can pull off upright and sarcastic and likely to read silly novels ~ he already has the good looks down 😆

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            @HotCocoaGirl

            Yes! Jung Hae In was super cheeky and sarcastic in his role in When You Were Sleeping but also, I think, the most morally grounded of the trio (LJS and Suzi) so that’s why he came to mind!!

            And boy…let’s not get started on the good looks hahaha. I’m really looking forward to Pretty Noona who buys me food because of him!

            I’m afraid I don’t know about any recent, charming girl idols hmmm

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            Ill trust you on that then ~ I’m going to ask my kpop obsessed sister about female idols, she’s also Austen literate, so she should be able to give options for Catherine ~

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            @hotcocoagirl and @goldenaddiction However much I like Lee Dong Wook, can you help me get over my Prison Playbook addiction/withdrawal by having Lee Kyu-Hyung instead?

            Shin Hye-sun is perfect.

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            @cloggie Lee Kyu-Hyung is great too!!! Maybe he would bring an interesting note to the character lol

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            @cloggie & @goldenaddiction
            I’ve never seen Lee Hyu Kyung before, but looking at pictures he seems more like a Mr Knightley type?

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      @hotcocoagirl and @sooyii Persuasion would be so perfect for a kdrama make-over, especially as Captain Wentworth especially returns with the purpose to get married.

      This could create a whole set of blind-date scenes with younger girls that Anne actually knows (saying that Anne should actually visit a plastic surgeon because she’s aged so much that he hardly recognises her). Then he sets his sights on one of them, only for her to then get in an accident (maybe hit by one of those pesky motorbikes) and her to fall in love with the guy looking after her (maybe a kind-hearted motorbike courier).

      This has all kinds of possibilities!

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        And @hotcocoagirl I think it’s a great idea to have her as a background piano player. She broke off the engagement all those years ago because her aunt told her that marriage would destroy her dream of becoming a concert pianist and she should concentrate on her music. But that didn’t work out and she now plays elevator piano music in the restaurant where Korean Captain Wentworth goes on his blind dates!

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          I LOVE THIS SO MUCH
          I NEED THIS NOW
          Ahem, your idea of blind dates and Lady Russell encouraging her to break off the engagement to focus on music is perfect ~ with the family becoming bankrupt and Anne losing much of her spunk after rejecting Captain Wentworth, it makes sense she would just take non pressured jobs that paid. I want a main story arc of her rediscovering her pride and ambition for her music.

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          @Cloggie and @hotcocoagirl

          this persuasion drama sounds sooooo good!!! Does anyone know a kdrama writer…

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        Ooh you mean the Matchmaking Motorbike? (It needs a name, like the Truck of Doom, as its sole purpose is to knock people into each other’s arms).
        Ah, the motorbike courier could be a former soldier who lost all will to live after the death of his fiancee while he was overseas, so now he halfheartedly lives helping to care for her relatives, until he meets the young girl Korean Captain Wentworth is courting to spite Anne.

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          Exactly! And of course motorbike courier and KCW (korean captain Wentworth) were in the army together. That makes so much sense. I think we can relocate that whole part of the book that’s set by the beach to Jeju island where KCW’s friends have moved to after the army.

          Plus KCW’s ex-army mate (who’s now a motorbike courier) also has an interest in music, so Anne thinks that maybe he likes her, until he has to look after young brat girl after the motorbike accident and falls in love with her.

          Was KCW a lowly army doctor when he met Anne? Then he went on to train in the States before coming back as a geeeeeenius neurosurgeon?

          Now all we need is a SL who seems absolutely perfect but is after Anne only for the inheritance (maybe some conglomerate voting shares?) and a ghastly sister’s divorced friend who tries to get remarried to the father and we’re all set.

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            Jeju Island is perfect! While a duet between Anne and the courier would be sweet, I still need them to have their conversation on poetry versus prose, because it’s one of my all time favorite passages in literature 🤗

            Yes to lowly army doctor who Lady Russell says will always be gone because he’ll have to go on many tours of duty to provide for a family instead of pursuing fellowships with less pay.

            I’m trying to figure out the Elliot’s family situation ~ maybe they only have shares left of a company but Sir Walter is too proud to sell them? Their cousin is obsessed with inheriting the company. Can their cousin Mr Elliot be Seo Kang Joon? I kind of prefer him as a villain than a lead…

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            @hotcocoagirl if that’s your favorite passage, we shouldn’t mess with it 😉

            The family situation is tricky. If we don’t have them rent out their house like in the original (which really starts the plot) maybe they have a high-level restaurant that someone is now going to run instead of them? But what they don’t know, but the cousin does, is that the price of the real estate is so high that they would make a huge profit if they sold it, rather than try to run it? Not sure.

            Seo Kang Joon would be good, or Dong Ha? We can see who’s available 😛

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            I like the restaurant idea ~ you’re quite devious @cloggie , remind me never to tell you if I become rich.

            Our Mr Elliot is into real estate, but Sir Walter will only rent out his buildings, and refuses any developments because the buildings are historical. Maybe they have a fancy traditional Korean restaurant? Or maybe they own an old family compound (like rich families in several kdramas), and they rent it to the rich Crofts, who are retiring and desire to try a more traditional lifestyle in the country.

            Oh, and Sir Walter is one of those older Korean men that always dress in traditional clothes, and insists on the daughters doing the same at home because they are from a noble clan.

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            @hotcocoagirl the traditional clothes and the family compound is soooo good!!! You’ve nailed it.

            Poor Anne – living in the compound, wearing those clothes and playing background piano music in the restaurant – is stuck in this tiny circle whereas Capt WW has travelled the world, lived in the States and has had a few girlfriends probably. He’s moved on whereas she can’t. (and then he comes back and falls in love with her all over again)

            That comparison between men having freedom to do things and women being stuck at home, unable to forget early relationships and what-could-have-beens is a large part of what the book is about and this captures it just so perfectly!

            More and more I think this would be a seriously awesome kdrama … And thanks @sooyi for letting us hijack your fanwall to write our masterpiece

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      I’m sorry for my late reply! Your ideas of the Jane Austen classics are gold! Actually, I was thinking of a modern Korean rendition of the stories, so “Hell Joseon” is actually a moniker that means that one needs specs, ties, money and endurance to hard work and superiors in order to survive in South Korea. However, I think a real Joseon setting for Sense and Sensibility is more befitting because then it would give more context to the vulnerable financial and social situation of the sisters. I’m kind of imagining Song Jong-ho as Brandon because he does silent and charismatic well at the same time lol. Yes, even fusion sageuks need to have political scheming but then I think it should be forsaken to higlight social conventions and traditions.
      I actually like Henry Tilney too out of all Jane Austen male leads because he is the honest and observative. But I think Elizabeth does not know all of his sides very well in order to be fully committed to him. I was thinking that she should have spent more time alongside Henry and for her to be more mature, but I guess it’s Jane Austen who’s trying to save us from endless drama.

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        Ah, I didn’t know the term Hell Joseon! It makes sense, sorry for the misunderstanding 😅

        Song Jong ho sounds perfect ~ though right now it’s hard to picture him as anything other than the evil politician in Hwayugi 😬

        I’m assuming you meant Catherine not Elizabeth? I agree that she didn’t know Henry very well, she was very much an innocent teen who fell in love without much reason. I think, by the end, they knew each other as well or better than most others before marriage in that time period ~ they knew the other to be honest to a fault, family oriented, religious, attractive, and that they could talk together for hours. I like to think they had a happy, though not super complex or witty, marriage. 😊

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    I was wondering how kdrama would do Persuasion, but of course he would spent time abroad to study and become a geeeeenius doctor. Or a self-made man in some other way

    Well, these plots work and that’s probably why they are used all the time

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