Hello Beanies,
It’s been a while… Just here to rant about my KDrama blues of late…
I unofficially dropped “Hi, Bye Mama” weeks ago: I’m 2 hours away from the end but I’ve lost interest and couldn’t be bothered. Not even for the year end Beanie Count.
Both “Hyena” and “Itaewon Class” were my weekly addictions while airing on Netflix and yet both ended in ways that were not quite what I had hoped for. The disappointment was real.
This week, I decided to binge-watch “Find me in your memory”, because I really liked Kim Dong-Wook in his last two projects, “The Guest” and “Special Labor Inspector Jo”. Unfortunately, the show lost its simple shine and I’m now dragging myself through ep15, rewinding and pausing because I’m distracted.
Which brings me to this: why is it so difficult to keep a good consistent pace till the end????? I swear it’s like most of the shows I love to bits just crumble as soon as they hit the half-way mark. Whyyyyyyy??? 😭😭😭😭
I really don’t know too many shows that we’re able to pull off their 2nd half with the same powerful energy. As for giving a show the ending it deserves: that’s almost a superhuman feat!
There are only a few dramas that had satisfying endings. It’s tough. Like you said, it’s almost a superhuman feat! It could also be because we like the drama so much that our expectations go real high and nothing could satisfy them. It’s a vicious cycle. Hang in there!
I can understand you so much.
I’m only live watching When my love blooms (I don’t count Good Casting because I’m mainly FF).
I’m watching old dramas that have been receiving beanie’s love and I’m ok with it.
But yes, I need a drama that can keep the second half as good as the first half.
*sighs with you*
Yup, peaking between episodes 10-12 and then going downhill happens a lot. Anyway, I still prefer kdrama to the series I used to watch that just pilled on season after season… most of the times I just ended drifting off into something new. I like finding closure in stories, saying goodbye before going into other unknown territories… and sometimes the ride is awesome!
I agree. There are very few shows that keep me interested past 1 season. I was genuinely surprised at how eager I was for “Kingdom 2” to come out. Then I heard that they’re making “Forest of Secrets 2” and I am eeeeven more excited!!!
Same. I’m the type to drop dramas even though I pnly have two eps left. A good ending is hard to find especially when they can’t bring back your wasted time 😂
same here!! I can’t wait for them to kick Song’s ass.
I love how these two have grown on each other.. There is not a moment of lull in this drama.. I love it..
And where is the kiss scene?? Make out scene??
I was seriously hoping for kisses too but I also have to admit that the progression towards opening up to each other and trusting each other as lawyers and now as partner lawyers has very much compensated for the lack of kisses. And it’s definitely a natural progression to what we all hope for: for them to be romantically involved again and for good!
I wanted them to kiss really badly but I understood that these episodes were more about Guem Ja opening up to him by trusting him and her confronting her father and moving towards closure.
Hello Beanies!
Monday March 30th, 2020 here and behold, I finally have a brilliant contribution to the DB March Music trend! Here’s a COVID-19 version of “Do Re Mi” from the classic movie “Sound of Music”.
Enjoy!
Weird questions : how do actors/actresses currently filming our favourite airing shows protect themselves from COVID-19? How do they practice social distancing while filming??
🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
South Korea has been much more vigilant about testing people for COVID-19 ever since it first began spreading there. They’ve been testing ~10,000 people EVERY DAY for weeks now. Some productions did take a break for a while, and I know many productions had cast and crew tested for the virus, but I’m guessing what they’re doing is making sure no one directly involved has the virus and going from there on deciding how to deal with it while filming.
From what I understand, though most of the Seoul population is self-isolating, things are still able to run more normally there in comparison to many parts of the world, because they had a much better handle on testing for the virus and tracking who spread it where.
I am worried about how scientists point out not to get too hopeful too soon as, like with the flu of 1918, they tend to bounce back when we think we have the all clear.
Many places in East Asia (S.Korea, Hong Kong, Taiwan, Japan) have been able to react and flatten the curve in way better time and way better ways because they took early and drastic (military-like action). It sadly comes with past experience of dealing with SARS and MERS
My cousin’s daughter is studying a term in SK and in her IG account I can see she’s not precisely socially distancing.
It’s just like Mindy said. Their system is working better than in the rest of the world.
Hyena ep10:
Hee-Jae is sexy and adorable when jealous, but I\’m not liking the extent to which he\’s willing to invade Geum-Ja\’s privacy, in the name of vying for her affection.
… Then again, tit for tat… But…
Hi Bye Mama:
I\’m totally rooting for Min-jung. Like 💯💯💯💯💯. In as much as I feel sooo bad for Yu-Ri, I really really REALLY want Min-Jung to stay as mum and wife.
(ep. 6☑️)
There’s no doubt that she will. And I’m totally down with that.
I just wish we could have some sort of reconciliation between Gang-Hwa and Yu-Ri. The prologues/epilogues constantly show how in love these two were, and how miserable Gang-hwa was (is?) on the inside since her loss, but we got NIL since Yu-Ri got back.
They’ve been trying really hard to keep away from each other but who knows? Maybe the most recent incident will force them to step up and say/do what needs to be said/done. All I want is for Kang Hwa to HEAL, dagnabbit. That can’t happen unless Yuri has a hand in it.
Really, season 3??
I mean, sure but, isn’t it too obvious that the young King will turn into a zombie? And what, now we have a zombie herder? Really? 🤔
Dunno that I like where this is going but I’d watch aaaanything with Doona Bae in it 😍
Yeah, I’m not sure about that part of the plot. I hope it’s done well. So, a third season is in the works, but I wonder how many more seasons will follow. It probably shouldn’t be more than three or four. I’m just wary of ongoing seasons. I’m already tired of Stranger Things, lol.
Watching the last 4 episodes of \”Call me Mother\” this fine Saturday morning and I\’m a puddle of tears, completely gutted.
What a poignant show about mothers.
Every day that I log in, I secretly hope that I\’ll no longer be an Errand Boy. And, without fail, I always (foolishly) feel a pinch of disappointment when, surprise, I am still an Errand Boy. (Errand Boy since October 29, 2018 at 12:21 PM)
* sigh *
That moment when you and your fellow Beanies complain that Itaewon Class’s plot and the villains are too cartoonish and predictable, and yet, the source material for the Show is indeed a webtoon. Hee hee hee.
my goodness!
I’m at ep.10 and… so painful and yet sooo good!
not a moment wasted! tight script (with some convenient plot twists and circumstances, yes) but solid! and the acting… wow!
It’s worth it all the way through. Such an amazing study of mothers and motherhood. It’s hard to believe what a great actor Son Seuk Gu is. I’ve been mesmerized by him in three dramas.
With Itaewon Class going through a pacing slump last week, I am not as excited for this Friday and Saturday’s episodes. I suspect it might be just more of the same, and I am ever-so disenchanted, which SUCKS because I really really loved the 1st half of the show.
Not to worry because this gives me a chance to start two curent Kdramas that my fellow Beanies have been raving about: Hi Bye, Mama and Hyena !
Wish me luck!
I actually really liked ep. 11 of IC. I thought it moved the story along at a faster clip plus showed more of a found family vibe in several ways (I’m a sucker for that).
Sae Ro-Yi learns that there is such a thing as healthy compromises. Toss some of that pride aside, boy! 🙌🏽
There may be no chance of a ship sailing, but Yi-seo\’s heart will go on and on. Unabashedly in love. 🤗😘
Soo-Ah claims she had to bring that damn potted plant because Jangga\’s President told her to but I think that was a really sh*t move on her part, regardless. Like, an inexcusable sh*t move. If you have a friend who does that, cut👏🏽them👏🏽off👏🏽.
#toxic 🐍☠️
Hyun-Yi is a Rock, a Diamond and she will not be moved * standing ovation *.💎💎💎
Seung-Kwon is a fiercely loyal friend. The way he\’s always holding Toni\’s hand and his unwavering support of Sae Ro Yi and Hyun-Yi. Bless him. 💖
Kim Toni is has wise words, full of compassion. And won the family jackpot! Like, can we talk about that? 😂🤑🤑🤑
Geun-Soo has reversed his jacket and I dislike his puppy-faced nepotism a** even more.😒
CEO Jang must pull his predictable vilain moves from a The Petty Textbook 101 for Entitled rags-to-riches Chaebols.😒🙄
You summed both episodes up well and I agree. The first was painful……. but
“Hyun-Yi is a Rock, a Diamond and she will not be moved * standing ovation *.💎💎💎”
love LOVE what they did!!!! I was clapping and my eyes were more than damp at the end.
Saying it one more time and then I will officially log off Dramabeans for a bit:
The issue being debated is not Kim Toni’s passport, which, I am sure, states that he is Guinean.
The issue being discussed here is his ancestry. and if he says he\’s (half) Korean, then that\’s all that matters.
Is the officer right in asking him for identification to get a record for his father and grandmother\’s whereabouts? ABSOLUTELY. It\’s an official document request and proof of family lineage is required to obtain this information. Anyone, whether they looked Asian or not, would need to provide this information.
Is the bouncer right for asking for identification? Yes. Everyone is required to show ID before entering.
Are the club owners right for not wanting African or Arabs in their establishment? No. That is discriminatory and therefore racist.
Did Yi-Seo tell him he can obviously NOT be Korean, solely based on his skin colour? Yes. Is she in a place of authority to require him to prove his ancestry? No. Does one need to look like their ancestor to BE of that ancestry? No. Does one need to have ID to prove they are of a given ethnic background, whether 100% or half or a quarter? ABSOLUTELY NOT. If he says his dad is Korean, that\’s it.
Behold, the RECAP for Ep.8 of ITAEWON CLASS has arrived (YAY! Thank you, Sunny!) and, predictably enough, the subject of racism comes up.
To all those who seem to be “on the fence” or defending racist actions by enveloping it under the guise of sociopathy and “not knowing better” and “he says he’s Korean but he doesn’t look Korean and he doesn’t have a Korean ID”, good luck navigating life with those blindfolders.
Agreed (and I hope none of my previous comments were to this effect, because that was not my intent). I think that Yi-seo and the bouncer were absolutely racist and wrong in their assumptions, and there is no excuse for it. The only reason I ever bring up sociopathy in regard to Yi-seo is that while she may know better, she just doesn’t care. And that is in and of itself incredibly problematic but it’s also a totally different issue from her being racist, which she absolutely was (is?).
The outright racism and subtle racism (emblems on clothing for example) in some K-dramas came as a shock to me. I’m glad this one is facing it head on for a change.
KSKalways
May 16, 2020 at 11:57 AM
Hello Beanies,
It’s been a while… Just here to rant about my KDrama blues of late…
I unofficially dropped “Hi, Bye Mama” weeks ago: I’m 2 hours away from the end but I’ve lost interest and couldn’t be bothered. Not even for the year end Beanie Count.
Both “Hyena” and “Itaewon Class” were my weekly addictions while airing on Netflix and yet both ended in ways that were not quite what I had hoped for. The disappointment was real.
This week, I decided to binge-watch “Find me in your memory”, because I really liked Kim Dong-Wook in his last two projects, “The Guest” and “Special Labor Inspector Jo”. Unfortunately, the show lost its simple shine and I’m now dragging myself through ep15, rewinding and pausing because I’m distracted.
Which brings me to this: why is it so difficult to keep a good consistent pace till the end????? I swear it’s like most of the shows I love to bits just crumble as soon as they hit the half-way mark. Whyyyyyyy??? 😭😭😭😭
I really don’t know too many shows that we’re able to pull off their 2nd half with the same powerful energy. As for giving a show the ending it deserves: that’s almost a superhuman feat!
*sigh*
Why? 😭
*so many hours of sleep lost… For what?*
#endofRant
earthna
May 16, 2020 at 12:29 PM
There are only a few dramas that had satisfying endings. It’s tough. Like you said, it’s almost a superhuman feat! It could also be because we like the drama so much that our expectations go real high and nothing could satisfy them. It’s a vicious cycle. Hang in there!
Fly Colours
May 16, 2020 at 2:01 PM
That happens to me a lot! I’m a relentless optimist, the struggle is real 😋
Eazal
May 16, 2020 at 1:36 PM
I can understand you so much.
I’m only live watching When my love blooms (I don’t count Good Casting because I’m mainly FF).
I’m watching old dramas that have been receiving beanie’s love and I’m ok with it.
But yes, I need a drama that can keep the second half as good as the first half.
*sighs with you*
alasecond
May 16, 2020 at 1:46 PM
oh darn..that’s who he is.. the guy from ghost and coffee shop.. wow
Fly Colours
May 16, 2020 at 1:59 PM
Yup, peaking between episodes 10-12 and then going downhill happens a lot. Anyway, I still prefer kdrama to the series I used to watch that just pilled on season after season… most of the times I just ended drifting off into something new. I like finding closure in stories, saying goodbye before going into other unknown territories… and sometimes the ride is awesome!
KSKalways
May 17, 2020 at 6:22 PM
I agree. There are very few shows that keep me interested past 1 season. I was genuinely surprised at how eager I was for “Kingdom 2” to come out. Then I heard that they’re making “Forest of Secrets 2” and I am eeeeven more excited!!!
purplesheesh
May 16, 2020 at 5:21 PM
Same. I’m the type to drop dramas even though I pnly have two eps left. A good ending is hard to find especially when they can’t bring back your wasted time 😂
KSKalways
April 4, 2020 at 4:07 PM
Ep14 of Hyena was sooooo satisfying!!! I’m so pumped for the last 2 episodes next week!
❤️😎🤩😆😆😆😆😆
Blue (mayhemf)
April 4, 2020 at 5:05 PM
same here!! I can’t wait for them to kick Song’s ass.
I love how these two have grown on each other.. There is not a moment of lull in this drama.. I love it..
And where is the kiss scene?? Make out scene??
KSKalways
April 4, 2020 at 7:39 PM
I was seriously hoping for kisses too but I also have to admit that the progression towards opening up to each other and trusting each other as lawyers and now as partner lawyers has very much compensated for the lack of kisses. And it’s definitely a natural progression to what we all hope for: for them to be romantically involved again and for good!
Mani-chan
April 4, 2020 at 9:24 PM
Also almost the entire team coming together to work at Choong and Guem Ja ready and actually looking forward to working with them was really heartfelt
Mani-chan
April 4, 2020 at 9:22 PM
I wanted them to kiss really badly but I understood that these episodes were more about Guem Ja opening up to him by trusting him and her confronting her father and moving towards closure.
KSKalways
March 30, 2020 at 7:00 AM
Hello Beanies!
Monday March 30th, 2020 here and behold, I finally have a brilliant contribution to the DB March Music trend! Here’s a COVID-19 version of “Do Re Mi” from the classic movie “Sound of Music”.
Enjoy!
Eazal
March 30, 2020 at 8:30 AM
This was funny!
Thanks for sharing 🤣🤣🤣
KSKalways
March 24, 2020 at 10:08 AM
Weird questions : how do actors/actresses currently filming our favourite airing shows protect themselves from COVID-19? How do they practice social distancing while filming??
🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
mindy🐌
March 24, 2020 at 10:14 AM
South Korea has been much more vigilant about testing people for COVID-19 ever since it first began spreading there. They’ve been testing ~10,000 people EVERY DAY for weeks now. Some productions did take a break for a while, and I know many productions had cast and crew tested for the virus, but I’m guessing what they’re doing is making sure no one directly involved has the virus and going from there on deciding how to deal with it while filming.
From what I understand, though most of the Seoul population is self-isolating, things are still able to run more normally there in comparison to many parts of the world, because they had a much better handle on testing for the virus and tracking who spread it where.
Beverly
March 24, 2020 at 10:19 AM
I don’t know that they are doing social distancing in the same way.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1167376
I am worried about how scientists point out not to get too hopeful too soon as, like with the flu of 1918, they tend to bounce back when we think we have the all clear.
bebeswtz❣️Xiao Zhan is my happy virus
March 24, 2020 at 10:45 AM
Many places in East Asia (S.Korea, Hong Kong, Taiwan, Japan) have been able to react and flatten the curve in way better time and way better ways because they took early and drastic (military-like action). It sadly comes with past experience of dealing with SARS and MERS
Eazal
March 24, 2020 at 1:33 PM
My cousin’s daughter is studying a term in SK and in her IG account I can see she’s not precisely socially distancing.
It’s just like Mindy said. Their system is working better than in the rest of the world.
KSKalways
March 22, 2020 at 9:00 PM
Hyena ep10:
Hee-Jae is sexy and adorable when jealous, but I\’m not liking the extent to which he\’s willing to invade Geum-Ja\’s privacy, in the name of vying for her affection.
… Then again, tit for tat… But…
bbstl
March 23, 2020 at 7:50 AM
I love him. He makes me laugh so hard, every episode.
KSKalways
March 22, 2020 at 6:05 PM
Hi Bye Mama:
I\’m totally rooting for Min-jung. Like 💯💯💯💯💯. In as much as I feel sooo bad for Yu-Ri, I really really REALLY want Min-Jung to stay as mum and wife.
(ep. 6☑️)
dopedramacongratz
March 22, 2020 at 6:57 PM
There’s no doubt that she will. And I’m totally down with that.
I just wish we could have some sort of reconciliation between Gang-Hwa and Yu-Ri. The prologues/epilogues constantly show how in love these two were, and how miserable Gang-hwa was (is?) on the inside since her loss, but we got NIL since Yu-Ri got back.
BdxPelik
March 23, 2020 at 4:48 AM
They’ve been trying really hard to keep away from each other but who knows? Maybe the most recent incident will force them to step up and say/do what needs to be said/done. All I want is for Kang Hwa to HEAL, dagnabbit. That can’t happen unless Yuri has a hand in it.
KSKalways
March 22, 2020 at 5:52 PM
Itaewon Class Ep16: Yi-seo boldly initiating 👩❤️👨💏💞. I loved it!
Overall, still a little sour about the 2nd half of this show. C\’est la vie !
KSKalways
March 19, 2020 at 12:58 PM
Actor Moon Ji Yoon has passed at 36.
He was most notably in WLFKBJ and Cheese in the Trap.
So young. So sad.
https://www.soompi.com/article/1389185wpp/celebrities-mourn-the-passing-of-moon-ji-yoon
wapz
March 19, 2020 at 1:16 PM
So young! They didn’t necessarily say thay it was because of Covid but someone wrote that sepsis can happen as a result of covid too. May he RIP.
KSKalways
March 20, 2020 at 6:18 AM
I wasn’t implying that it was COVID-19 related…
Midnight
March 20, 2020 at 12:13 AM
I was so shocked and sad. He was one of my earliest crushes.
KSKalways
March 15, 2020 at 8:02 PM
Kingdom, season 2 completed!
I really liked it a lot, but I\’m not sure about that ending…
* spoilers in comments *
KSKalways
March 15, 2020 at 8:04 PM
Really, season 3??
I mean, sure but, isn’t it too obvious that the young King will turn into a zombie? And what, now we have a zombie herder? Really? 🤔
Dunno that I like where this is going but I’d watch aaaanything with Doona Bae in it 😍
Peridot
March 16, 2020 at 9:06 AM
Yeah, I’m not sure about that part of the plot. I hope it’s done well. So, a third season is in the works, but I wonder how many more seasons will follow. It probably shouldn’t be more than three or four. I’m just wary of ongoing seasons. I’m already tired of Stranger Things, lol.
KSKalways
March 14, 2020 at 3:30 PM
The level of PPL in Itaewon Class\’ ep13 and 14 literally quadrupled!!
🙄😅🤔
mugyuljoie
March 14, 2020 at 9:07 PM
It reminded me of Be Melodramatic where they shoe horned in a bunch at the end. 😂
KSKalways
March 15, 2020 at 4:32 AM
“oppa oppa oppa oppa oppa… Oppa oppa oppa!”
What a great show that was, 😂😂
KSKalways
March 14, 2020 at 8:12 AM
Watching the last 4 episodes of \”Call me Mother\” this fine Saturday morning and I\’m a puddle of tears, completely gutted.
What a poignant show about mothers.
KSKalways
March 13, 2020 at 8:36 AM
Every day that I log in, I secretly hope that I\’ll no longer be an Errand Boy. And, without fail, I always (foolishly) feel a pinch of disappointment when, surprise, I am still an Errand Boy.
(Errand Boy since October 29, 2018 at 12:21 PM)
* sigh *
Ms. Rabbit 🐇
March 13, 2020 at 10:00 AM
Hehehe. Fighting, my fellow Errand Boy! I probably should address you as sunbaenim. 😉
Blue (mayhemf)
March 13, 2020 at 11:15 AM
well well well… I don’t even know how long I have been here!!
earthna
March 13, 2020 at 12:19 PM
I’m with you, forever Errand Boy.
Edgar Pordwed
March 13, 2020 at 1:09 PM
What? That’s too long!
Eazal
March 13, 2020 at 1:27 PM
Just keep planning on how to decorate that rooftop apartment you’re about to move to!!
KSKalways
March 11, 2020 at 9:02 AM
Geun-Soo: a sheep in wolf\’s clothing and nepotism.
mini-rant here
http://www.dramabeans.com/2020/03/itaewon-class-episode-12/#comment-3627591
KSKalways
March 11, 2020 at 8:44 AM
“From Chairman Jang Dae-hee. Know your place and be satisfied with what you have.”
A Rant about Soo-Ah here.
http://www.dramabeans.com/2020/03/itaewon-class-episode-12/#comment-3627583
KSKalways
March 11, 2020 at 8:41 AM
That moment when you and your fellow Beanies complain that Itaewon Class’s plot and the villains are too cartoonish and predictable, and yet, the source material for the Show is indeed a webtoon. Hee hee hee.
mugyuljoie
March 11, 2020 at 6:23 PM
And that it has K-drama tropes (referring to loan shark grannie).
KSKalways
March 9, 2020 at 6:56 PM
Unexpectedly, I started watching MOTHER. Episode 1 and my heart is hurt. Broken. Destroyed.
* keeps watching *
mugyuljoie
March 9, 2020 at 7:22 PM
It’s a really hard watch but excellent.
KSKalways
March 13, 2020 at 8:38 AM
my goodness!
I’m at ep.10 and… so painful and yet sooo good!
not a moment wasted! tight script (with some convenient plot twists and circumstances, yes) but solid! and the acting… wow!
@ndlessjoie @hebang @sensationalfantasy
mugyuljoie
March 13, 2020 at 9:21 PM
It’s worth it all the way through. Such an amazing study of mothers and motherhood. It’s hard to believe what a great actor Son Seuk Gu is. I’ve been mesmerized by him in three dramas.
FlyingTool
March 9, 2020 at 7:26 PM
It gets harder, but there are magnificent scenes from a wonderful drama waiting for you.
liar song #IsNowAWooDoHwanStanAccount
March 9, 2020 at 10:40 PM
Mother is a drama that kept hurting me (in a good way) but I didn’t mind (because it is so goooood).
KSKalways
March 9, 2020 at 8:52 AM
With Itaewon Class going through a pacing slump last week, I am not as excited for this Friday and Saturday’s episodes. I suspect it might be just more of the same, and I am ever-so disenchanted, which SUCKS because I really really loved the 1st half of the show.
Not to worry because this gives me a chance to start two curent Kdramas that my fellow Beanies have been raving about: Hi Bye, Mama and Hyena !
Wish me luck!
Eazal
March 9, 2020 at 3:10 PM
Prepare your kleenex with Hi Bye, Mama!
There’s not one episode I haven’t cried.
mugyuljoie
March 9, 2020 at 5:04 PM
I actually really liked ep. 11 of IC. I thought it moved the story along at a faster clip plus showed more of a found family vibe in several ways (I’m a sucker for that).
KSKalways
March 10, 2020 at 6:23 AM
I’m glad that you enjoyed it 🙂
KSKalways
March 7, 2020 at 11:09 PM
Itaewon Class, ep. 11-12 in a nutshell:
Sae Ro-Yi learns that there is such a thing as healthy compromises. Toss some of that pride aside, boy! 🙌🏽
There may be no chance of a ship sailing, but Yi-seo\’s heart will go on and on. Unabashedly in love. 🤗😘
Soo-Ah claims she had to bring that damn potted plant because Jangga\’s President told her to but I think that was a really sh*t move on her part, regardless. Like, an inexcusable sh*t move. If you have a friend who does that, cut👏🏽them👏🏽off👏🏽.
#toxic 🐍☠️
Hyun-Yi is a Rock, a Diamond and she will not be moved * standing ovation *.💎💎💎
Seung-Kwon is a fiercely loyal friend. The way he\’s always holding Toni\’s hand and his unwavering support of Sae Ro Yi and Hyun-Yi. Bless him. 💖
Kim Toni is has wise words, full of compassion. And won the family jackpot! Like, can we talk about that? 😂🤑🤑🤑
Geun-Soo has reversed his jacket and I dislike his puppy-faced nepotism a** even more.😒
CEO Jang must pull his predictable vilain moves from a The Petty Textbook 101 for Entitled rags-to-riches Chaebols.😒🙄
stpauligurl
March 7, 2020 at 11:27 PM
You summed both episodes up well and I agree. The first was painful……. but
“Hyun-Yi is a Rock, a Diamond and she will not be moved * standing ovation *.💎💎💎”
love LOVE what they did!!!! I was clapping and my eyes were more than damp at the end.
KSKalways
February 26, 2020 at 8:22 AM
Saying it one more time and then I will officially log off Dramabeans for a bit:
The issue being debated is not Kim Toni’s passport, which, I am sure, states that he is Guinean.
The issue being discussed here is his ancestry. and if he says he\’s (half) Korean, then that\’s all that matters.
Is the officer right in asking him for identification to get a record for his father and grandmother\’s whereabouts? ABSOLUTELY. It\’s an official document request and proof of family lineage is required to obtain this information. Anyone, whether they looked Asian or not, would need to provide this information.
Is the bouncer right for asking for identification? Yes. Everyone is required to show ID before entering.
Are the club owners right for not wanting African or Arabs in their establishment? No. That is discriminatory and therefore racist.
Did Yi-Seo tell him he can obviously NOT be Korean, solely based on his skin colour? Yes. Is she in a place of authority to require him to prove his ancestry? No. Does one need to look like their ancestor to BE of that ancestry? No. Does one need to have ID to prove they are of a given ethnic background, whether 100% or half or a quarter? ABSOLUTELY NOT. If he says his dad is Korean, that\’s it.
mugyuljoie
February 26, 2020 at 8:53 AM
I do appreciate the questions that arise from this drama. It’s refreshing to see social issues other than socioeconomics being addressed.
Beverly
February 26, 2020 at 9:56 AM
I have been at work and haven’t looked at the comments in awhile. I hope you log back in when you feel ready.
KSKalways
February 26, 2020 at 8:03 AM
Behold, the RECAP for Ep.8 of ITAEWON CLASS has arrived (YAY! Thank you, Sunny!) and, predictably enough, the subject of racism comes up.
To all those who seem to be “on the fence” or defending racist actions by enveloping it under the guise of sociopathy and “not knowing better” and “he says he’s Korean but he doesn’t look Korean and he doesn’t have a Korean ID”, good luck navigating life with those blindfolders.
Here’s a (long) article to express my weariness explaining racism, especially anti-Black racism:
https://metro.co.uk/2020/02/25/psychological-impact-constantly-explain-racism-12147969/
SnarkyJellyfish
February 26, 2020 at 8:36 AM
Agreed (and I hope none of my previous comments were to this effect, because that was not my intent). I think that Yi-seo and the bouncer were absolutely racist and wrong in their assumptions, and there is no excuse for it. The only reason I ever bring up sociopathy in regard to Yi-seo is that while she may know better, she just doesn’t care. And that is in and of itself incredibly problematic but it’s also a totally different issue from her being racist, which she absolutely was (is?).
mugyuljoie
February 26, 2020 at 9:06 AM
The outright racism and subtle racism (emblems on clothing for example) in some K-dramas came as a shock to me. I’m glad this one is facing it head on for a change.