Open Thread, election style
November 4th, 2008 // by javabeans
All right, I wasn’t exactly planning to do this, but since there have been a few scattered election comments in various threads, I figured, why not just have a place for us to all play, spazz, and rejoice (hopefully???) together?
Have at it.
I’ll start. I may just be THISCLOSE to feeling honest-to-goodness genuine hope again — WITHOUT IRONY — in this country. Go go go go go. I may also be drinking on a caffeine high.
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Oh, also: Who else saw Anderson Cooper talking with that weird hologram figure thing on CNN and went, “WTF?”
CNN calls Obama!!!!!! Woahhhh
wow so early! does this mean this is a landslide?
I JUST got home. A full two minutes before NBC called it for Obama. Wow. I’m stunned and elated. Thank you America.
Yes! Yes! This is hope not just for America, but for the whole world. As a non-American I am only too pleased to have to reassess my despair at and contempt for the myopia and parochialism of the majority of Americans (so it seemed to me four years ago).
President Obama!
President Barack HUSSEIN Obama! Amazing!
I missed the hologram? Darn! I was watching CNBC.
wow! this is definitely a step in the RIGHT direction! i’m still holding reservations on Obama (only because i don’t trust congress) so i guess i’ll have to see what kind of decisions he makes these next several months to gauge how he’s going to lead America in a new direction. AND i really hope he has a tight control over congress. i really hope Obama will bring about the change he’s been talking about for the past 1.5 years!
what a relief now that this is over!
LOL so that really was a hologram that Anderson was talking to. I thought I was seeing things as a result of my free caffeine from Starbucks totally wearing off.
It is a relief now that the election is over. I really hope that things will change for the better here!
random note: politics and family do not go hand in hand lol
I can’t believe the McCain rally frakkin’ BOOED (President!) Obama during his concession speech!
It’s that kind of blind hate that LOST YOU the election, fools.
I am not American but I have been following this since last year and I have to say there are times that I feared for Obama to be denied the chance to change American politics but I am now satisfied…
Writing this from Hong Kong, so I’ve been up since 7 am to wait for updates. You have no idea how despairing it was for me to witness Bush’s re-election a few years ago.
I’m listening to McCain’s speech now on MSNBC, this is the first time his utterances of ‘My friends’ hasn’t get me all cranky and feeling the need to kill something. It’s going to be a good day for me today!
i saw the hologram agree WTF!!!!!!! LOL
OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FINALLLYYYY AMERICA IS READY FOR CHANGE!!!!! FINALLY WE CAN LEAVE THE PAST BEHIND!!!!!!!!
i never thought id actually be seeing holograms on the news– (COOL!! star wars XD)
right now seeing mccain’s speech, he’s being very professional (im not republican) he was trying to stop the “booing” by the crowd (the crowd supporting him is very annoying….) when he congratulated Obama on winning. (aww… palin and mccain are tearing T_T) seriously, hearing and seeing his speech makes me once again look at mccain as a nice, next door “grandpa”, who’ll dress up as santa claus
… i always feel bad for the “loser” of the presidential race… so good job mr mccain!!! and hopefully mr. obama will do all that he promises to do
Booing again! McCain is a better, more gracious man than the Republicans deserve.
I admit McCain has been a better man than his campaign has shown. I wonder if he’ll get his soul back now that the election is over. I’d like to respect him again.
Emotions are high on both sides, so I can overlook some responses. Just keep rising above the fray, javabeans. McCain is at least trying to go out with style and turn his supporters to the nation. I have to admit, he has class. Not like some previous late, very late, concession speeches, even if they were from my candidate.
I was starting to think that he didn’t want the presidency half way through his campaign. He was very gracious in his concession speech, so kudos to him for that.
I SAW ANDERSON COOPER DO THAT !!! lol, he is so cute XD
Yay, for Obama, I wonder how many people actually got out and voted; I think this beats the 1960 record. woot!
McCain’s speech showed all the best things about him that this campaign totally hasn’t shown. It’s too bad he didn’t speak like that the whole campaign, or it might have been a lot closer.
But seriously- Sarah Palin’s face? HIlarious.
Congratulations America! To the American citizens thank you for finally voting with your head AND your heart. If only you had done so earlier…
For once I wished I was an American citizen so I could cast a vote (no offence to my American friends reading this, but I love being an Aussie
) . Not just because this election featured an African American, an ex-POW and a woman on the two tickets (apologises to Mr Biden ain’t up to speed on you…but I sure will try harder) This is an election of the possibility for hope and change.
As the world faces increasing challenges – be they economical, environmental, war, famine – the election of Barack Obama brings up the possibility of thoughtful action, motivated not just by special interests (ahem Cheney, Rove) and the $$$$$.
It is also inspiring that this election has motivated those who had never voted, never registered or been interested to embrace the ‘privilege’ that is democracy. Your vote. Your voice.
(why people who could can freely vote would choose not to embrace it is something I find interesting, I suppose that is democracy. People in other places literally die to have that right…sorry for the rant)
Lastly javabeans love love your blog(s) – and if only I knew about NaNoWriMo would have gotten off my butt to (attempt) writing! Next year perhaps? Also thanks for your recaps – seriously makes it seem like I’m watching it (as well as saves me watching drivel when I next want to watch something – just go with Javabeans recommendations LOL)
I felt teary during McCain’s speech…for the first time, his speech touched me on some level…especially the part about his failure and not the American public’s failure. I felt that McCain was very gracious…very good speech with genuine emotions unlike other speeches.
The booing was very bad. This is American elect president that they were booing on national live tv.
Barack Obama, 44th president of the United States – I am waiting for him to speak!
Obama! Obama! Obama! A truly beautiful day in history…
Although I didn’t particularly care for either candidate, I had to vote my conscience and vote McCain. I too want change, but I find Obama’s politics fairly extreme, very far to the left and can’t join the happy-fest.
By the way, I always enjoy reading your blog, javabeans. Thanks for helping me find so many wonderful kdramas!
But Obama has many obstacles in front of him, I just hope he’s promises wont end up being empty promises, with the amount of funding the US actually has there are many limits to the things he can do, he will be under an incredibly amount of pressure.
agree with javabeans comment #16. McCain’s a good man and I might have voted for McCain if it wasn’t for the hatefulness of his supporters and very obvious inexperience of his running mate, Sarah Palin-which got me really worried for the future of this country. Congrats to Obama and I hope he does a great job- agree with izzy’s sentiments above that Obama’s got a hard road ahead of him and there will be limits on what he can achieve.
Now I’m really curious about the number of people who went to vote. I haven’t seen so many people so hyped up about the election in the past 8 years-especially those between 18-25 years old.
OBAMAAAAAAAA!!
I’m a little sad about the current result of a CA prop though.
post 24: i know how you feel. i wasn’t too thrilled with either candidate but i voted Obama because of his fresh face and new ideas and honestly, it was Obama’s stance in funding arts education in public schools that pushed my vote towards him. let’s get some real culture back to america through arts education. no more of this avarice! also, Obama knows how to use the younger generation to his advantage and we need someone like that in Washington.
I FEEL THE SAME WAY BECAUSE I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO WAS OFFENDED .. I MEAN COME ONE PEOPLE HOW THE HECK ARE YOU GONNA BOO AT UR SOON TO BE PRESIDENT WITHOUT A THOUGHT?
THEY COULD HAVE CONTINUED BOOING ALL NIGHT FOR ALL OBAMA HIMSELF CARES
HISTORY HAS ALREADY BEEN MADE PEOPLE GET OVER IT HAHAHAHAHA
I FOR ONE RESPECT
BARACK OBAMA NOT ONLY BECAUSE HE IS BLACK OR WHITE BUT MAINLY WHAT HE STANDS FOR
AS A DIVERSE INDIVIDUAL WHO UNDERSTANDS THE TRUE MEANING OF LEADERSHIP AND MAKING SURE ALL IS SAFE AND PROTECTED BEFORE HIMSELF
OBAMA!
nownow. how much better id like it if it was hillary..
oops. i should just keep that to myself..
HOORAY FOR OBAMA!!
As much as I’ve lost respect for John McCain over the course of this campaign, I was impressed with his speech. It was gracious, and tone-appropriate. To me, it came across as him having realized several weeks ago knowing he was not meant to be president. Sarah Palin? She was almost in tears. She honestly believed she was going to be Vice-President until an hour ago.
OBAMA FTW.
I’m insanely happy right now.
EDIT||woah, totally read the news wrong.
The Repubs need to grow up just a little bit. I understand their disappointment, but -really??-. Booing?
Congrats to Obama, and here’s to change.
I’m a cynic in all things politics. Obama knows how to polish stuff he says. But whether or not he keeps his words is a different issue.
YAY!!! PRESIDENT OBAMA !!!!!!
me!!!!!!!!!!!1
i saw anderson cooper go “wtf” at the hologram. BIG LOL!
anyway, it really was a matter of policy. personally, i like mccain. he’d led his life. he’s proven himself as a man already. at 72, he could have very well just laid back and let the future take it course. but he had something to say, and he really was just the kind of man who wouldn’t let “72″ get in the way of that. SO. PROPS TO JOHN MCCAIN. respect.
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it really was just a matter of policy. i think the better man won. AND as i clearly think McCain was a very good man also in his own right, PROPS to obama for being EVEN BETTER than that.
let’s go world! change is a-comin!
OBAMA!!! congratsssss!!!
it’s so sad that us, canadians, paid more attention to this election than our very own -.-” can’t blame us…cuz we had horrible choices…anyway, i hope Obama could help us too…we really REALLY need it…T-T
i liked McCain too, his image throughout the election was quite positive.
yah i saw the hologram in CNN, i was like what the heck, why do they need a hologram for a big screen is better haha! anyway I’m from chicago and it’s so crowded at downtown now..CONGRATS PRESIDENT OBAMA! IT’S TIME FOR CHANGE! (this reminds me of the jdoroma CHANGE) haha!
I liked McCain’s speech.
OBAMA!
God bless him and America!
Oh my god~ He’s on tv now! CNN, NAO !
Is everyone watching CNN here? While I adore (and by adore, I mean “am in love with”) Anderson Cooper, I’ve become a huge fan of MSNBC. Keith Olbermann is my teevee boyfriend, and Chris Matthews and Rachel Maddow can always provide insight. Sure they’re not neutral, but they DO work hard to give accurate information.
Okay, I’m not an American I and have lived in Japan for just about forever but just googled the results of the election during a lull in my computer lab class and let out a great big YAHOO! – which startled my students… OOPS!
@gallivanter, I’m watching NBC now. I do watch MSNBC and I enjoy Rachel Maddow a lot, but it does skew very obviously liberal, and I get a big “preaching to the choir” vibe from them. I can’t stomach Fox News, but I do like a little balance. (Not that CNN is balanced — most of the cable news is highly unwatchable.)
Yanking the topic back to television:– Does anyone else realise that we are living out the last season of West Wing?
*ahem ahem*….Dear McCain, Palin, and his racist supporters….SCOREBOARD BITCHES!
I HAVE REGAINED FAITH IN MY COUNTRY
GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!!
*so hyper right now*
We are living in the time of history. This is the first time I have felt so pulled into politics. Hmmm….this is a sign.
Anyway, I’m excited to see the changes too.
“Yes we can!”
Lol
I’m so proud to be an American today. I am so hopeful for the future. Barack Obama is our next President. God Bless America.
♥
Just got here from the ecstatic shouting on Facebook, and wow. It’s not just the Americans who are cheering Obama’s win, but most of the world as well. In a way it’s disturbing to see the amount of influence the US wields but in this case is also a cause for great hope, and maybe even a renewed faith in government.
I do want to give a hug for the people who didn’t get to see their candidate win, though, because I am also seeing too much gloating – and as I have said elsewhere: “Yes, you’ve won, and now you have to sit down like rational adults and figure out how to fix all these massive problems, which you are not going to be able to do if you keep rubbing salt into other people’s wounds.”
All in all, what a remarkable night, and an amazing night for the history books as well.
Night, all.
This is why I believe in the American people! I am so freaking proud of us right now!
EVERYONE, give yourself a pat on your back. Even if you couldn’t vote. Just do it.
We’re all part of history! Invisibelle and I were in disbelief: looking at an African American man who’s middle name is Hussein giving a victory speech while millions cheered him on. What a gigantic step.
What hopes, what dreams, what aspirations…this means so much! THIS IS HISTORY IN THE MAKING!
I have great hope for this country! I believe WE CAN! We will create the changes and work hard to improve the situation!
Woohoo!
“I admit McCain has been a better man than his campaign has shown. I wonder if he’ll get his soul back now that the election is over. I’d like to respect him again.”
Javabeans you speak my mind. I used to have so much respect for the man! It’s really so sad that he sold his soul to the Devil (aka Sarah Palin) because greed got the best of him. But under the circumstances, I guess it’s understandable (although unforgivable) that he would dip so low – he’s been trying to win for EIGHT YEARS. But in the long wrong, he screwed himself over by selling out and walking away from what he really stood for in order to win. Sarah Palin was just the straw that broke the camel’s back.
So who else shed some tears during Obama’s speech at Grant Park? I am proud to be a citizen of the United States of America. Today 11/4/08 we have witnessed history, change, the hope for a better future for our’Sselves, our children, hopefully into our grandchildren lives.
I never cared about politics till this election. It is amazing how all the generations, races, sexual identities, genders came together for a change. I am so happy, that is why I feel so emotional. As a Nigerian-American I never thought in my lifetime there would be an African American President, and African American first lady and I am so damn proud of the people of this country for showing me that a positive change has come to this country,
I can truly say now that this country represents all her people. Obama reminds me of JFK and MLK combined. When he gave his speech I was just like wow I am watching greatness. I just pray that this country and our president have a wonderful 4 hopefully 8 years of positive change, hope, and progress.
Yes we can, yes we did, and damn it yes we will!!!!
Congrats to the Americans from Canada!
You guys really redeemed yourselves tonight…you did a great thing and for the first time, I’ve honestly realized what a powerful thing DEMOCRACY really is…it makes the impossible possible in a heartbeat…hard to believe this is the same country that, a mere 45 years ago, was split down the middle with racial strife, political upheaval and of course, the burden of an unwanted war…you’ve come a long way over a very short time, guys!
I really hope Barack Obama at least makes a conscious, honest effort to live up to your expectations…I think he’ll be just what your country needs right now…
Congrats again!!
This is great, really, for America! I’m not even American, but I do feel touched that Obama actually won this! =D It is really refreshing to see how the world is revolving now. People want change, and they got it! =) McCain did well, too!~
yatta!!! so glad that obama won! hehe… change is coming. hopefully, it will all be for the best.
it’s pretty amazing how the whole world is awaiting the outcome of this election. US really affects everyone. when my country has an election, i don’t think any other country is interested in knowing who won. haha…
muigeital..
It is really sad that us Canadians paid more attention to the US election than our own. But, tonight I really wished that I am an American and be able to cast a vote and be part of history. I am just incredibly happy right now for Americans, finally some direction for a country that has lost its path.
I have so much studying to do, but I can’t just ignore history unravelling in front me,, hehe,,I am just glued on watching CNN..
OBAMA!
adkjsafhlashfj the speech! obama is succcchhh a freaking amazing speaker!♥
i even got goosebumps xD
i have been stressed out for days about this election.. so glad that its over and it ended the way i had been hoping.
i finally feel proud to be an american again♥
OBAMA!
Finally!!! Obama!!
Good speech, short and to the point. Loved how they brought their moms up front for a minute. Way to teach America to appreciate your mothers!
I checked CNN continuously – it’s the most reliable domestic new site…
but I get my main coverage from BBC, just to switch things up and hear what the rest of the world has to say about this….They showed the village in Kenya where Obama’s grandma (dad’s side) lives and how the people were celebrating… finally a prez that the rest of the world could like!
I like BBC’s hosts and comments and Justin Webb is awesome.
I thought Mccain’s speech was well delivered and gracious and really showed his good qualities… feel bad for him, hope he will have a good life after all the frenzy dies down.
Not being the prez is not the end of the world, look at Al Gore, he was down in the dumps after he lost but now he’s better than b4…
Big Changes coming? We’ll see…Now it’s time to put all those beautifully crafted speeches to action!
I’ve been watching CNN since noon today! Ahhhh Anderson Cooper is hot ;P hahaha. And omg! I agree, that hologram thing was freaky! But it was cool also. Kinda star wars-ish! I’m glad Obama is the president-elect! His speech was so inspirational. And I looooved how he told his daughters he’s giving them a puppy, haha!
MY GOD. It’s a freaking circus show outside my apartment unit! So much honking! And college students are LOUD. The good kind of loud: “O-ba-ma! O-ba-ma!” Oh, is that firecrackers I’m hearing? Or do these people celebrate with guns…? This is the land of the crazy after all….
At the end of his televised speech, I couldn’t help tearing up as I watched Mr. President’s back walking off the stage. This is the beginning of a great chapter in history, guys — one that we were lucky to have just witnessed in our very young lives. Truly, this has been a testament to the fact that with persistent hard work and a big heart, anything can happen, anything can be. Can I be more inspired?
Speaking of the other guy’s conceding speech, I was left speechless, a bit upset, to know that these people — these barbarians — are the ones who perpetuate the kind of hate that is keeping the better of us from enjoying this beautiful world.
President OBAMA, no “OUR President OBAMA”, i got up so early to cast my vote before i go to work…and has had a long, long day since i have to go to class after work; but i am very proud to be part of this big historic election after all….
i noticed some of the people (i encountered in person and online) who supported mccain say very rude things about obama, and i just saw mccain giving a speech and when obama’s name came up, people boo. i’m looking forward to the new president.
Everyone Cross you fingers that it will be NO on Prop 8!!!!!!
President of Kenya announced that tomorrow is a national holiday for Kenya!!!!
Green with envy…..i need extra hours to continue the celebration.
@ minime, don’t do that. Don’t tell people what to do; that’s saying they cannot think for themselves. My god, let the people decide on their own!
I am elated, and am genuinely happy.
However, I am fearing the gas prices tomorrow, I am sure my check card will be screaming.
I like will.i.am, but that hologram thing was indeed creepy but it was so cool nonetheless, I want one stat.
As Colbert would say, “Give me my hologram-machine-thing now!”
My dad started crying and everything (he is 60 this year), he remembers when he was stationed in Mississippi, waiting for the bus, and the people told him to go sit outside at the ‘n**r bench’ (no joke there was one and there were signs on the grass, saying ‘n**s and dogs stay off grass’) in the rain with his U.S. Air Force uniform on. My dad of course argued with him, but the man said that he could take the uniform off and leave it in the station and take his ‘n**r ass and sit on the bench outside’.
I am so happy he was able to see a minority that once, would not be allowed to walk on the same ground as the Caucasians, be the 44th Elected President of United States of America.
To tell the truth, even if it were not for Obama’s race, he still is an excellent candidate. I mean come on, who would want Palin as the Vice President. Well there are some, but STILL. I am not saying anything; I think I would look more stupid.
In 50 years, in the United States, race really will not matter, since there probably will not be no majority race or anything. I mean geez everyone is mixed almost. My great-great grandfather’s brothers fought on the side of the south in the civil war … so yeah, just saying.
I am sorry I digressed, but YAY for OBAMA!
I don’t think minime was trying to impose his/her opinion on others.
minime, I’m also hoping people don’t vote to strip others of their civil rights, although the yes vote is currently edging out the no vote. It makes me sad.
The hologram was indeed very freaky!
I’m not sure if anyone else cares, but I’m now following the Senate race too.
I’m not going to lie– I cried a little when Obama made his speech. What a fantastic orator he is.
FUCK YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OBAMA! YES WE CAN!!!
Just a quick note to rocketfuel, yeah, Obama won and McCain lost but comment 44 is way out of line. Giving my support to John McCain had nothing to do with either candidate’s race (and I believe that’s true for the vast majority). I just felt like he was a better choice for this country. In fact, one of things I really didn’t like about Obama’s campaign is how the race card was pulled so often by his campaign when faced with opposition. I know everyone’s celebrating but have some respect, please.
My faith and respect in the American people has been restored. More often than not, Americans (as a whole) find a way to disappoint, but today, I am truly proud of my fellow Americans – they pulled through. We did it!!
And I’ve missed the John McCain who gave his concession speech. This is who John McCain is – not that angry, erratic, cynical man that we saw during the election. Where has he been all this time?
Go Obama…I dont think its going to be easy for him but I honestly think he’ll do a great job…..
im just super happy there’s been a change in power
btw, has anyone been paying attention to Prop 8? I’m disappointed that it’s doing so bad…to me this wasn’t an issue of whether I think it’s right or wrong but rather who are we to take someone’s rights away. When you honestly sit down and look this over, it comes to down to a person’s civil rights
just my two cents on this issue and disappointed not everyone saw that
I’m proud that we’re moving in the right direction.
Yes, we can America!
Yay! Obama won! It’s really crazy how much we’ve been covering the election here in Europe, at least in these parts (I’m in Finland). I actually work in media intelligence (yeah, I know) and have to follow what’s been said in the tv and radio, and it’s really crazy… We seem to be more intrested in what’s happening over there than how we vote in our own presidential elections…
I’ve also noticed how much attention the rest of the world has been paying to this election (for good reasons). From what I’ve gathered, they’re liking the new guy in office.
can i just say obama is so photogenic? he does not have a bad angle.
i was worried fear of the unknown would win this election. fear of a new race, of age and inexprience. people need an image of hope and optimism and john mccain is not that image. mccain feels like the parent who tells you what he knows whats best for you. obama is more of that steady, dependable guy you want on your team. it was obama’s time this time.
he is the epitome of the American dream. no matter what your background, skin color, religion, if you work hard and honestly, you can reach your dream. i have such high hopes for this term. it would be heartwrenching to see it not achieve its goals.
My first time writing here. Thank you Javabeans for this site. Pictures of All the cute Korean boys… and the recaps on dramas…I’ve been checking in here regularly. And Yes, Tonight, I’m so proud to be American. We can make things happen, we can change the way things are. New era has began. Obama’s gotta tough job ahead, but after his eloquent acceptance speech, I’m feeling hopeful. Oh, and yes, I know, Prop.8. It’s incredible that some people want to take charge of other’s business. Really, too bad…
Congratulations America! May you be blessed.
I think just like everyone my faith and respect in the United States of America has been regained!!! Woot woot! GObama!! HEllz yeah!! We are part of history!!! SI SE PUDO (yes we could!!) ^_^
Since my political side matured under the Bush administration, this is the first time i can say I BELIEVE IN OUR PRESIDENT! I’m so happy that the first time I was ever able to vote, I could vote for Obama
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With that said, I really respect Mccain. He is awesome on a lot of levels too– he shows way more energy than I’m sure I ever had at any age, his final speech was extremely gracious, he has survived cancer AND been a POW. Even though I voted for Obama, if Mccain would have won, I certainly wouldn’t have booed him because he’s one tough candidate who certainly fought hard for the presidency.
I want to see Anderson Cooper’s response to the hologram. Earlier in the day on The Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer, I saw him talking to Jessica Yellin and thought “It’s about time.” Throughout evening, I kept turning the TV on and off. When 8PM hit because most of the poles close around that time. I turned it on and started to flip from CNNM ABC, NBC and CNN,com on my computer.
Obama’s speech at Grant Park almost made me cry. I had to stop and breath. Did anyone see Oprah and Reverend Jesse Jackson crying? Wow.
McCain was humble in is speech, but the crowd needs to grow up. Palin was about to cry you could see her trying to hold it together.
AMERICA ROCKS!!!!!!
Re: Republican’s booing Obama
Do you honestly think that if Obama had lost, Democrats wouldn’t have been booing McCain? I think it would have been far worse.
Not that it’s excusable. The fact is that there are rude and ignorant people in both parties, it’s naive to delude yourself otherwise.
I’m not one to cut off my nose to spite my face. If Obama can really bring the change he says he can, then all the power to him. I hope these next four years are full of recovery and prosperity for America. Because isn’t that what it’s about?
this election is pretty darn amazing. it’s nice to believe in america’s decency again. 8 years of paranoia, despair and sliding further down the sh!thole…hope some of it can be curbed now. just half a century after civil rights movement = day-um! proud of y’all *SNIFFLE*
Congrats America – History will tell later if your New President is the man for the job…….Remember the First Female Prime Minister of the UK.
Will be interesting to watch from now on.
Many Thanks javabean for your insight into this and drama.
Yes we can ! Yes for the new man ! I hope Barrack Obama can fix all the mess in America now..I thought the hologram thing was cool too..it was like Star Wars..!
And yeah, Anderson Cooper for President in 10 years time!
This election actually wasn’t as nasty as what Bush Sr. ran in his time, and I think a lot of people felt that Obama essentially won the election when he looked the race issue straight in the eye and actually had a real dialogue with the American public. At that time, I was a Clinton supporter, but after that event, I decided Obama ought to be the Democrat nominee
“btw, has anyone been paying attention to Prop 8?”
It makes me sad personally. I thought the Prop 8 campaign was more offensive than the presidential election itself. I think the court will eventually overturn Prop 8 if the current results are verified, but in 20 years, this kind of thing will be viewed as part of a gross misjudgement of our time.
“Do you honestly think that if Obama had lost, Democrats wouldn’t have been booing McCain? I think it would have been far worse.”
Had absolutely no problem with McCain supporters booing. Zilcho. Because I would have done the same on the other side (and, hell, there was booing when Kerry lost to Bush.) There is no grace in political defeat, only more politicking for your next campaign. If 3rd terms were legal and Obama had lost to Bush, I would demand a riot. That said, I admire McCain a lot. As people who love America, I admire both McCain and Obama.
One of the commentators kind of put it as I saw it. Obama winning might have marked the passing of the Reagan Conservative era, which is almost as important as the fact that a person of color has finally become Our Guy. Demographics has shifted sufficiently that Christian Coalition (i.e. the Bible South) does not provide enough critical mass to sustain a silent majority. Neo-con/post-Cold War foreign policy has alienated the United States from the rest of the world. Depending on how universal health care shakes down, progressive government may be coming back.
WHHHAT. California, really?!
only 20% left and yes is winning by 4 percent.
I’m praying for a miracle..
“WHHHAT. California, really?!”
Sigh. Yeah.
Congratulations America! Whatever side of the fence you were on, the vote was for a campaign that preached Change, and thats what we need right now. But as a sidenote, California, I am SO DISAPPOINTED in you if what I wish, hope and pray will not happen (i.e. a yes on the horrendous prop 8), happens!!
WOOHOO!!! My classes were sneaking looks at msnbc and cnn all day, so the school system was slow as a result of the flooding.. lol!!
I guess it’s just harder for me to accept because I had this mindset that it wouldn’t pass.
…too much Bay Area influence?
Well damn, I wish the rest of CA voted like us.
At least I can find joy in the fact that I am no longer embarrassed about our county’s president.
Congrats Obama. It’s about time.
oh! and yay for free coffee!
…even though I only went for one cup.
I was starting to get a headache. hehe;;;
“I guess it’s just harder for me to accept because I had this mindset that it wouldn’t pass.…too much Bay Area influence?”
Yup, same here (one point lived near a transgender hotspot . . FUN!!) When I left the City, it took for me awhile to accept that people didn’t think like that in the majority of the United States, and that a bill like this would pass in most States. But I didn’t think it would in California.
Yay, he won!!! I just woke up and heard the news–wow, what a relief! I was going to cry/move if it became another horrible upset like last time!
Congratulations, America! You have renewed the world’s faith that you are a great country of the people, for the people and by the people. Also, my salute to Obama and McCain for the dignified speeches both made on this very historical day.
I couldn’t have said it better myself epyc
What an exciting time to be living in….who would have thought?
congrats congrats!! even tho i’m not american, i think this is fantastic. when i heard the news tonight, i was so so so happy. thank you america!
and yes, it is a tad sad on the whole prop no. 8 thing… but, one step at a time, one step at a time, at least it wasn’t a landslide loss.
Wooohoooo I’m so happy for you, guys!
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I’m gonna check my flist on LJ now. I bet they’re all squeeing with delight. I couldn’t agree more *g*
OBAMA FTW! WOOT!! <3
My first time voting!! At first, I thought it was the Obama supporters boo-ing McCain, which would have been extremely low of us. McCain’s a good guy- but none of his issues fit me (I’m pretty liberal
) and I hate his VP pick.
~in CA waiting for the prop 8 stuff to be finished. losing by 52/48 with 91% of votes already counted. (http://vote.sos.ca.gov/Returns/props/map190000000008.htm)
=/ I might just head to sleep soon.
The good part is that people are becoming more open with gay marriage. Prop 22 only had like… around 38%(?) people for gay marriage and now it’s all the way to 48% :]. Change WILL come one day.
Didn’t really enjoy my coffee, but I got 2 scoops of BnJ’s icecream! Yum….
Congrats! Best concession and victory speeches in a long time, both reflect the things great about America.
Thank God! I hope he stays safe and has 8 years of good change in the White House. Now the rest of the world can see how really diversified we are here in the US and that we ARE united.
Thank you America! I truly think we got it right this time. I’m not expecting Obama to fix everything but I think it was just so powerful and reaffirming to see so many faces from so many facets of life together.
thank you america!!!
OMGNESSSSSSS
i couldn’t help but cry when i heard….honestly,i feel so happy
go obama…go obama
i finally respect my president
Amazing moment in time. Glad I was there to witness it. McCain’s speech was heartfelt and it finally seemed that he just shewed away all his advisors that have been leaking poison in his ear throughout this campaign and just spoke from the heart. He really is a great man(but ran an AWFUL campaign) and his status makes this moment that much more monumental. The crowd at his rally were nothing more that frat boys a college football game. Classless.
Obama looked and sounded GREAT as President. You listen to him speak and you’re captivated. He seems young and strong but kind and intellectual as well. The only small thing is I was hoping for a more powerful, iconic speech. It was a good speech but with that crowd and that moment I was really hoping to feely truly touched and moved by his speech but it fell a little short. Was still a great speech, but just a little short of iconic. Oh well, hopefully this will signify TRUE change and get this country back to being a world LEADER opposed of world bully.
I’m french and I stayed up all night long watching CNN.com and waiting for the results (they came up at 5 a.m)… and I have to say CONGRATULATIONS America. That day is historic, it IS history and, most of all, it is full of hope.
YES YOU CAN! we ALL can!
Thank you America! And congrats!
Reading the comments, I can’t help but feel how simmiliar it is to Malaysians’ when we had our very own groundbreaking elections on March 8. Like Americans today, Malaysians voted for change, and never in our lifetimes did we ever think the opposition could deny the government its 2/3 majority.
(By now you guys are probably going ??. Haha never mind)
To put it simply, I totally understand your elation.
You guys are luckier than us .. at least you have a system that is more accountable than ours … my country, in the meantime, is heading towards a dictatorship as the powers that be cling even more tightly to power by whatever means possible. (BIG SIGH.)
Obama’s election as US president gives a lot of hope not just to Americans but non-Americans in the world. As my British friend says, “When the US sneezes, the rest of the world catches a cold”. The policies by the Bush administration has been damaging to say the least. Obama – with his multicultural and global upbringing – we hope to see a more understanding approach in foreign policy.
Also, he being an African American gives us in Malaysia something to aspire to. Malaysian politics is mired in racial politics. You’d be shocked at the things our politicians are spouting. (One race – the majority – would protest the election of an official from a minority race. it’s that bad!) A lot of editorials have sprung up after Obama’s win, asking: Can Malaysia do the same one day?
U guys inspire us. Keep up the good work.
Thank you America!
I woke up this morning and to my surprise I actually got teary eyed when I read the news. Needless to say I’m happy about the results.
wow, a lot of obama supporters in here.
Kren…i’m with you…that racist comment was pretty offensive to me too. i also voted for mccain not b/c he was black or white but b/c i also believed he was the better candidate…and yes, i followed both campaigns all year and did my research before i voted. so it makes me (and all the people i know who supported mccain) racist b/c we didn’t vote for obama? that’s a pretty ignorant statement. i’m not blind to the racism that’s apparent throughout this election but it’s on both sides. it’s also comments like this…”my faith and respect in the American people has been restored”…that are also so annoying. so just b/c i don’t necessarily agree with your views and voted for the other party, i’m less respected? so ignorant. i’m proud to be an american and will support whoever is in office but let’s see if obama can deliver the sun and the moon as he’s been promising all this time.
“I checked CNN continuously – it’s the most reliable domestic new site…”
….if you’re a democrat! yeah, CNN is just as bi-partisan and un-biased as FOX News is….
i’m not gonna say much since, like someone else already said, emotions are high and people are probably fighting more now than ever so i’m just gonna sayyy….
::happy::
Kren + bebo,
I get my news from the Daily show because it’s a whole lot better when reality is mocked for it’s absurdity, and McCain was a complete joke. I actually had respect for him….not so much anymore. And I won’t say I’m sorry about what I said because I’ve seen racist comments by those voting for McCain, stemming from calling him a terrorist, a fried chicken and watermelon man, and the reason why slavery should have never been abolished. If you’re not one of the racist villagers with a pitchfork and fire screaming “terrorist!” …..then you shouldn’t be offended because it doesn’t apply to you.
So it’s not ignorance, it’s personal experience and how insulting I found McCain’s campaign to be…for not only picking Palin, but saying that REAL AMERICANS are in small towns, not where 9-11 happened. I have many reasons for why I feel the way I do and made such a statement……but I decided to keep it short.
While I know not all people who supported McCain are morons, I think most of them are.
YES WE CAN! Today I’m proud to be an American!
I actually started to get “weepy” during McCain’s concession speech. It’s as if the man had been visited by three spirits in the night and actually got his soul back. Being dragged around by his nose by a corrupt, win-at-all costs, regime all came to an end when as he was able to break free from the spell of his captures and utter an unfettered, heart-felt statement of truth (for an abrupt change.) I also felt a sense of relief and compassion for a man having been saddled with such a huge burden while trying to remain loyal to a dark, malevolent power which felt no reciprocal loyalty to either him or to his core beliefs. Unlike the current, outgoing group of robber-barrons, I’m counting on McCain to be a trusted ally in the healing of wounds and the reuniting of our nation.
I’m also excited about the possibilities offered in the selection of cabinet appointments from the large pool of talented, well-meaning public servants (the Clintons, John Kerry, Al Gore…) that PRESIDENT OBAMA (!!!!!) will now have available to serve at his, and our own collective pleasure(s.)
We now have a great opportunity to rebuild our national conscience, to repair our standing in the world, and to once again become the beacon of shining light that represents freedom, justice, and equality in the hearts and minds of our citizens, and in the dreams of those, the world over, who remain hopeful (even in their darkest of hours), that America will find a way to ease their suffering and offer to them comfort, nourishment, and warmth so that they too may allowed taste the same sweetness in the air that we Americans have come to accept as a birth rite.
Our long (inter)national nightmare will soon be over. May the sun be shining brightly as we awake to greet the new day!
“While I know not all people who supported McCain are morons, I think most of them are.”
The whole platform that won Obama the presidency was his unwillingness to partake in mudslinging and to show his opponent respect. If you’re his supporter than let’s try and follow his lead and not throw broad insults against a pretty large population. It’s time for America to heal the scars from years of bi-partisan warring and come together to help resuscitate this struggling nation. As he said, we can disagree with a person’s views or opinions but to insult a person’s character or intelligence is counterproductive and not conducive to progress.
Hehe, I kept looking for you last night, you weren’t on MSN.
I cried during his acceptance speech. I’m not a religious person, but I just feel so profoundly thankful. Hope, indeed. I can’t wait to start hearing things coming out of Washington that I can be proud of.
I have some drama/a dilemma, now… I am getting married next year and had lined up a wedding photographer, was going to spend $8k flying him to India for my wedding. Since I made that decision, though, I’ve been having misgivings here and there after finding out that he is a very strong Christian, because our wedding will be Hindu. Then, last night, he started making really irritating comments on Twitter about the election (examples: “welcome to socialism” “McCain’s acceptance speech was so gracious, Obama’s supporters not as much”) . It’s kind of the last straw, and I’m thinking of firing him. Is that wrong?
Ivuson,
I wanted Ron Paul, the reason why I voted Democrat was to hit the reset button. And sometimes, to get to point A….you just cut through all the bullcrap and tell people how you really feel.
I am so proud of Our Country this morning. There was a quote last night that described this election as a “non-violent revolution”. I hope we can work together to maintain this spirit of unity and change can be a reality.
Unfortunately, there has already been divisiveness at my daughter’s high school.
We live in a suburb of Houston, TX , so the majority of the population is McCain supporters. She called to let me know that there have been fights and that many of the students are wearing black. (in mourning) WTF!
I ‘ve been told that the definition of insanity is ” doing the same thing over and over again but expecting a different result”.
I am so ready to regain my SANITY!
“….if you’re a democrat! yeah, CNN is just as bi-partisan and un-biased as FOX News is….”
Nah, no news network is bi-partisan as Fox News is “bi-partisan.” Heh.
FWIW, I’ve heard many people say they mostly get their news from the Daily Show (fine show, but ENTERTAINMENT), and that just strikes me as kind of appalling too.
“i’m not blind to the racism that’s apparent throughout this election but it’s on both sides. it’s also comments like this…”my faith and respect in the American people has been restored”…that are also so annoying”
I kind of resented the Obama supporters during the nominations, because many of them were saying that the Clintons were really Republicans at heart or that Hillary was using low and racist personal tactics to attack Obama. I found them a bit self-righteous and well . . . young, realistically on most policy changes, there would have not been significant difference between the two candidates. However, I’m glad Obama was nominated because, as we can see, he was the best chance for the Democrats to get back into the office.
“but saying that REAL AMERICANS are in small towns, ”
How is that different from any other Republican message though?
“It’s kind of the last straw, and I’m thinking of firing him. Is that wrong?”
The sentiment isn’t pleasant (imagine the opposite situation), but realistically you’d want a photographer who’s agreeable with you and especially knowledgeable on shooting “Monsoon Weddings.” Because they’re REALLY different than a traditional American wedding.
Belleza,
I hardly think looking to the Daily Show for a “perspective” on the news is appalling….because unlike FOX, CNN, and MSNBC, it is “entertainment” and it doesn’t take itself too seriously. Although, Olberman’s use of Stewie’s sound-byte is pretty dope. The thing people need to understand about comedy like the Daily Show and Colbert Report, it holds people accountable for what they say and points out it’s absurdity…especially when it’s a person as powerful as the president or Obama himself. Sure, Olbermann does it too, but he’s not that funny. FOX new’s Bill O’rielly is more of a gaffe machine than Obama and he reads the TelePrompTer. Besides, the information they share are the same content CBS, BBC, and KBS use….the only difference is that it’s not being regurgitated by a bunch of stuffy suits.
……….
“How is that different from any other Republican message though?”
It was a message that had high production value, that’s the difference.
@rocketfuel,
“it holds people accountable for what they say and points out it’s absurdity…especially when it’s a person as powerful as the president or Obama himself”
I feel the problem with pointing out absurdity for the sake of absurdity is that it gives the audience a false sense of true knowledge on the subject. It’s the equivalent of listening to Rush Limbaugh to get all of your news “perspectives.” Rush is entertaining to his base, and his base enjoys ridiculing the position positions of the left. But that doesn’t make them any more knowledgeable. Why does news have to be entertaining to be meaningful? That’s like me forming my views on Korea from Popseoul.
Also, I don’t really understand supporting Ron Paul and not supporting John McCain, at least philosophically. Ron Paul’s views on foreign policy are more isolationist, he opposes universal health care, OPPOSES Roe V. Wade, opposes gun control, etc. These are diametrically opposite the platform Obama ran. Ralph Nader is just as a straight shooter as Ron Paul, though obviously on the opposite side of the political stratum.
“It was a message that had high production value, that’s the difference”
That’s a core base for Republicans since Nixon, though. They always appeal to “small town America”, who make up a significant part of the Christian fundi vote as well as the “silent majority.”
Belleza,
Unlike Popseoul and Rush Limbaugh, Jon Stewart isn’t looking to “spin” information for entertainment. That was his problem with CNN’s crossfire and that’s why he’s more honest than Popseoul and Rush. He just point at the news, mostly unedited except for something like an IPOD product placement…and makes a funny face. He uses reality and “wtf” expressions as his punch line. Compared to Popseoul and Rush, he’s actually honest about sharing the news because he doesn’t rewrite it. Besides, just because people get their News from FOX doesn’t mean they have a true knowledge of the subject either.
Actually, FOX NEWS = Popseoul.
Ron Paul is an intellectual, which is why I would have voted for him. McCain, not so much..especially when you see the two debate with each other and you can see how completely different they are.
And like I said….I voted for Obama because I wanted the government to reset itself on both sides.
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“That’s a core base for Republicans since Nixon, though. They always appeal to “small town America”, who make up a significant part of the Christian fundi vote as well as the “silent majority.”
appealing to them is one thing…saying that anything else is less American, is another.
Wow, it was my first time voting, and …Obama won yay! Hope there will be Change in America!
I have voted in many presidential elections ( I know… old) and this was one of the rare opportunities when I didn’t feel as though I was voting for the lesser of two evils. I hope that he will lead the U.S. the way he lead his campaign with grace, inclusiveness, organization and a steady hand. It is the most hope I have had in a long time.
And I promised the powers that be if Obama won I would listen to all of his speeches since I have taken most of the past 8 years off and read them only. I am glad not to have to listen to Bush string his words together a moment longer and am looking forward to having a thoughtful intelligent president.
“Actually, FOX NEWS = Popseoul.”
Daily Show = Dramabeans
anyone catch nader’s comment about uncle tom?? seriously, wtf nader?!?!?
“anyone catch nader’s comment about uncle tom?? ”
Taken out of context, it seems awful, but I do partially agree with Ralph Nader’s argument. It’s also, BTW, arguments that have been also made by activists in the African American community, who nevertheless support Obama. (Of course, a white guy wasn’t say these things.) That’s not meant as a strike about Obama — it’s just the reality of politics in 2008 America, which is a helluva further along than in 1988, when Bush Sr. ran those Willie Horton ads to defeat Dukakis. For Obama to win, he has to seem non-threatening to the majority of America, which is still white America. And, unlike a Republican nominee (though that may have changed too), a Democrat must adopt a centrist message in order to win.
It’s also a good thing in that the African American political community has now a wider range of voices recognized by the political mainstream. Or to put it another way, Jesse Jackson and Rev Sharpton are important voices, but they do not speak FOR black America.
“Nah, no news network is bi-partisan as Fox News is “bi-partisan.”
i meant…NON-partisan…!
“While I know not all people who supported McCain are morons, I think most of them are.”
so..what’s that old saying again…something about a pot calling the kettle black? um, yea…you know that one….no racial pun intended though.
oh man, i’ve got some things to say about ron paul, rush and the daily show but…belleza, you’re doing a pretty good job!
“The whole platform that won Obama the presidency was his unwillingness to partake in mudslinging and to show his opponent respect.”
if only this was true…i sure saw and heard a lot of mudslinging back and forth! ok, i’m done with my political ranting for a while. now that the man has been elected, let’s see what’s in store for america in the coming year(s)!
I’m so happy Obama won — believe me, I was in tears due to the moment of it all. It was 8PM PST here in Los Angeles yesterday and I looked up from my computer to the TV screen to see people cheering. I thought it was nothing until I saw, “Sen. Barack Obama Elected President.” Wow. That just had me so moved.
History was made yesterday and we were all lucky to be a part of it.
However, it was sad to see that Prop. 8 won over CA. I still can’t believe it. Gays & Lesbians are humans — they’re people! They should have the same fundamental rights as the rest of the human race.
“oh man, i’ve got some things to say about ron paul, rush and the daily show but…belleza, you’re doing a pretty good job!”
I actually like the Daily Show a lot, but I take in news from the BBC and used to watch Charlie Rose a lot. Fox News is entertainment to me; usually I watch it to gauge where the Republican/conservative viewpoints are going. I actually like Ron Paul, but his libertarian viewpoints are incompletely incompatible with mine own. Like I said, I wouldn’t want the president to revoke Roe v Wade. I don’t especially like Ralph Nader, but his viewpoints are pretty close with mine.
I’m pretty liberal, but one of the (non-political) forum I visit are run by Fundies. One thing I noticed about Fundies is most of them are really good at debate and especially in controlling talking points and keeping on mesage. That kind of speaks to the level of organization that the Christian Right have maintained in order to be not only a consistent political force, but an extremely strong voice within Internet grassroots culture. It’s a consistent mistake by Democrats to characterize Fundies as intellectually inferior, racist, whatever. They underestimate their opponent and they have no idea why they’ve lost.
Obama didn’t do that. Obama engaged the “enemy” and, tempted by the threat of white guilt, he sidestepped it and told people that “we can agree to disagree, but I respect you.” That was huge, because Obama was able to do this without selling out the Democrat platform. That doesn’t make Obama heroic; it makes him a MASTER politician. Obama didn’t turn it into a “black vs. white” issue; he essentialy told America “white America: I am your feel good vote. You can pat yourself on the back if you vote for me. black America: you can engage with white America as a whole without pointing a finger.” Because Obama didn’t fully bite, McCain couldn’t call him on it. And it only alienated other voters when Fox tried to press him on his name and so on. It made them to look not only racist, but also petty.
This was perhaps the best run campaign in our history. Not in just the grassroots campaign or ability to control the sphere of influence, but in the way he was able to raise and distribute an incredible amount of money, so that it seemed Obama was campaigning everywhere. His campaign rewrote the book.
bebo
could the cauldron prove it?
Rosa Parks sat so Martin Luther King could walk
Martin Luther King walked so Obama could run
Obama’s running so we all can fly.
-Hov
Yay, we get to kill babies now and we won’t be punished for it ! Yay!!!
Jojo, now that’s a horribly ignorant statement that makes me afraid for our future. there are ways to express an intelligent pro-life argument without being narrow-minded about the issue.
Javabeans, I’ve been reading your site for quite some time now but I’ve only ever posted one comment (and that was just 4 minutes ago) but I just wanted to say that you almost always speak my exact sentiments when it comes to this election.
Unfortunately while I believe we made the right choice for president, it saddens me to read about prop 8 in California and the ban of foster parents in Arkansas.
Jojo, you’re probably just trolling the comments in order to cause ruckus but your statement truly shows the ignorance of some people in this country.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPF1FhCMPuQ
Particularly starting at 2:45:
We could do this till the cows come home, so I’ll just say: Frankly the argument is too complex to simplify it into “all pro-choicers = abortion lovers and baby killers.” I agree that pro-lifers have some compelling arguments, but that kind of blind hate-spewing does nobody good, not even the pro-lifers.
jon stewart 2012!
Sooo elated!! All the NYT are sold out so we ordered a copy for tomorrow.
Awesome win for Democrats all over, but I hope they can live up to the world’s expectations. And I respect McCain for stopping the boos at his concession speech- clearly, he’s regaining his good ol’ former self which he lost somewhere along the blazing campaign trail.
About the “historic victory”, my cousin gave this analogy:
“It kinda feels like the Yankees won the World Series..” LOL
I’m very disappointed that the American voters lost the chance to elect a great 44th president after 8 years of George W. Bush. Sadly, we will have four more years under a man with no experience, who will be controlled by an experienced and worldly-wise VP. Too bad!
silly jenny,
Trix is for kids…and McCain is Bush. Why else would McCain use Bush’s own campaign manager.
That video was hilarious and you’re absolutely right. Just because I’m pro-choice doesn’t mean I love killing babies. WTF.
I really appreciate all the support that we Americans receive from other people from different countries. Truly, america has to fix its image and once again earn the respect of other nations. I believe President Obama will take us there. Mccain, I truly respect him for his speech, a very gallant man. I saw a lot of youth turnout this time around and its about time we young ones start caring for our country and receive the reponsibility from the baby boomers who were mostly the shapers of today’s America. Thank u all.
i join the rest of the (net)izens in rejoicing Obama’s win.It’s one big step, one admirable feat. ..Here’s to hoping for a better and more peaceful world with Obama in the White House.
I’m sad about proposition too. I am all for Gay and lesbian rights.
You know, I wonder how many Office fans voted for the Obama-Biden ticket just because the Veep is from Scranton, Pennsylvania?
But yeah, hecka happy with the results. President Obama!
Voted for McCain ^__^ but still I am happy that everyone else is so happy about Obama. It’s nice to see that.
California conservatives at least got prop 8! yay !!
He supports infanticide and that makes him a monster. I don’t care if you are a Dem or Repub, pro-choice or pro-life. The man voted THREE times against “the born alive act” which means he voted THREE times IN FAVOR of babies born as a result of a failed abortion to JUST DIE. His comment on this issue was that if a woman goes in for a late-term abortion and the abortion fails, she should not be “burdened” with a baby she didn’t want. So Obama voted THREE times against this act. And yet millions and millions of Americans chose to ignore this information which was openly and readily available to the public. We are talking about human babies BORN ALIVE.
Way to go, America.
Butterfly, i believe that is misinformation:
“A Washington Times editorial falsely claimed that Sen. Barack Obama “argu[ed] cold-bloodedly on the Illinois Senate floor that babies who survive botched late-term abortions should not be considered ‘persons’… In fact, he was not discussing “late-term abortions” in the remarks the editorial highlighted; Obama was asserting that the bill in question, which was not limited to late-term abortions, would “essentially bar abortions.” ”
http://mediamatters.org/items/200802050010
P.S. And then there’s the issue of Obama having never been in charge of ANYTHING IN HIS LIFE. His 4 years as President will not only be the LONGEST job he’s ever had, it will also be the ONLY job he’s ever had where he was in charge of something. He is a junior Senator with approximately 143 days of active Senate office time (the rest of his three years of official Senate service were running for President.)
He also managed to write two books when he got ready to run for President and and yet never wrote ONE SINGLE piece of legaslation as a Senator.
What. a. joke.
Again, way to go America.
Butterfly, again you are misinformed: Dreams from my Father was written in 1995, and Audacity of Hope was published in 06.
There are valid arguments against Obama, but if they aren’t accurate they don’t hold water.
Javabeans, please. I know this is your blog but you have invited people to comment on the topic of Obama and related issues of the election. Please do NOT accuse me of misinformation. I’m sorry this is uncomfortable for those of you who voted for Obama, but this is REALITY.
I am NOT referring to his abortion views. This is the Born Alive Act.
http://www.bornalivetruth.org/obamarecord.aspx
Futhermore, abortion is the direct and deliberate killing of a human being in its fetal gestation. There’s NOTHING to be proud of, supporting abortion “rights”. But, for the record, I was referring to Obama’s views on the Born Alive Act, which is NOT directly an abortion issue.
Obama also supports NO healthcare for the unborn. Which is sickening.
“There are valid arguments against Obama, but if they aren’t accurate they don’t hold water.”
That’s interesting. How can something be both VALID and yet at the same time NOT BE ACCUDATE and NOT HOLD WATER?
So which part doesn’t hold water or isn’t accurate? The fact that he has never been in charge of anything in his professional life, or the fact that he has only served 143 days of official office time in the Senate, or the fact that in his 3 years as a Senator he never wrote one single piece of legislation?
So I was wrong about the year he wrote his books. Does that change anything else I’ve said?
Yes, this is my blog, and yes, you’re free to comment. Please don’t take my responses as an attempt to stifle your views. By no means do I think everyone has to support Obama or find him perfect.
But I can comment on your comments as well, which is all I’ve done.
Sorry, I should have phrased that better — I meant that there are certainly valid arguments criticizing Obama. And also that arguments made in a BASHING tone with factual errors tend to dull the points that ARE being made.
I have not “bashed”. If you are accusing me of that, that is a weak deflection from the issues and frankly, you’re smarter than that.
I’ve no intention of starting a big row in the comments field and also I don’t have time to keep coming back to comment again and again. I stated the facts as they are FACTS. It is not misinformation. It is not bashing. It is not a “factual error”. It is matter of fact that Barack Obama voted THREE times against the protection of human babies born alive from failed abortions. His abortion views are so radical that even NARAL and many other pro-choicers distanced themselves. He also supports partial-birth abortion (another heinous and radical agenda that alienates most reasoble pro-choicers).
You should do some research on what takes place during a partial-birth abortion.
Again, I’m sorry this is uncomfoortable for those of you who voted for him. But the facts have always been there. You all can’t shoot the messanger and make accusations of misinformation and factual errors because the truth sounds so gruesome. It IS gruesome and we have to live with it.
I’m out. I still totally love your blog, Javabeans!!!
I know what partial-birth abortion is, and I’ve read enough to know that a blanket ban on them would do a lot of harm. Like you said, I’m not going to continue an argument either, but please don’t assume that because I have a particular stance, I must not have researched it.
Elaine, I agree with you. At least we can rejoice over the passage of Prop 8!
McCain isn’t Bush, rocketfuel, he’s his own man. Surely you observed that, during this lengthy campaign that lasted goodness knows how long. Well, all we can do is hope for the best, because there’s nothing else we can do. I pray that Obama will surpass my expectations, though, but if he fails to heal the earth and turn back the waters as he’s vowed to do, and if he fails to restore the economy to its thriving health in four years as he’s promised, he will lose my entire respect – respect, since he has none of my support to lose.