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Mary Stayed Out All Night replaces writer

Looks like drama in K-dramaland. KBS’s Monday-Tuesday drama Mary Stayed Out All Night, starring Jang Geun-seok and Moon Geun-young, has announced the departure of its screenwriter, In Eun-ah (Goong, Love and Marriage, Hon). She’s reportedly left the production of her own accord, and will be replaced by new head writer Go Bong-hwang (18 vs. 29, Nice Girl Baek Il-hong).

The announcement comes on the heels of Mary‘s lowest ratings yet: it dipped down to 5.7% this week, up against heavy hitter Giant‘s finale. While it might be too late to save this sinking ship, perhaps it makes sense that if there was ever a time to make the switch, it’s now. Maybe with Giant gone and some new blood in the writers’ room, the production is hoping against hope for a ratings revival in its last leg.

The changeover was initially suppressed when rumors of on-set discord surfaced, but it’s now been confirmed that writer In Eun-ah has decided to leave. Just how much of that decision was really up to her is of course anybody’s guess. The drama isn’t exactly what you would call well-executed, given the potential it had with its cast. It really kind of pains me to think of how awesome it could have been, if the writing had been sharper. Suffice it to say, I’m not surprised that the writer was blamed, but I AM surprised that they’re risking the change this late in the game. I guess we’ll just have to tune in to see what happens to the story, once the dust settles.

Go Bong-hwang has taken over the script starting with Episode 11, which airs Monday December 13, along with Episode 10.

Via Star News

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First?????

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This is not YouTube. X/

Anyways, fingers crosses for Mary and the Team!

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*crossed... Freaking typos

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is there any prize at stake when you're first? XDD

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Lets keep em crossed!! I'm with you!!!! But sucks for the writer I guess. No matter how her decision to leave was made. Once you start on something, it becomes urs. But I hope this new writer don't change the tone and make things complicated. I dread that.

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What? "First?" I would've appreciated reading another "f" word... "Finally!" :)

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IA. A "Finally" is needed.

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FINALLY!

This should have happened light years ago when the plot was still interesting. It's such a mess, it's like trying to undo a ball of tangled strings. Hopefully the new writer can make the last episodes of this drama memorable.

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So Am I second? Muhahah!!

Congrats on being first, but at least make a comment concerning the above post, this "First" is getting older by the day!! : O }

The problem with MSOAN like I mention before, most of the trendy dramas are using the "Open Story Line" format which means the writer only has the skeleton of the story and she/he fills the lines as she goes with no definite commitment to a particular story line, and we see how many dramas have tank just on 2010 because of this format, to many to mention, I can almost guarantee, that this is the death blow for MSOAN, it was cute while it lasted!! Now I do not think the new writer can untied the mess that the old writer left behind!!!!
My best regards to the cast and crew!!!

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If we're to count from the top... sorry but you're fifth. :( unless someone replies to ani's or my post.

and yes, I know, I shouldn't have replied. :P

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@izzie: XDYou guys crack me up.

@Amg1: The drama is not at its Eleventh Hour yet. Well, okay, I'm just hoping for the best. Somehow, I always end up disappointed though. JAIYOU!

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if the new one manages to turn the situation around, I'mma send him/her a dozen bags of premium-grade civet coffee beans! (a writer of such a calibre needs to be fueled.) :D

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I am sorry if my dry humor was a bit overboard! : O }

Well is hard to predict since the primary writer has been all over the place with the story line!!
Lets hope that now he/she may have a sense of what the story is really about since this "Kissing" rectangle Mary-go-round is starting to get pretty old, if only the writer give Mary a "backbone" and the second male lead a more solid lines to work with, and the second female lead, make her an "intelligent, independent, career, oriented" girl, not your run of the mill "bitchy, codependent, emo, suicidal girl, the show will be fine otherwise I think is all down hill from here on!!!!!
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Why is this open plotline so common in K land? the station won't finance a writer so the writer does not write until commitments are in place? Do GF and JB know? This drives me so crazy! Every other drama ends on a downward curve if it does not downright TANK. When a story meets your satisfaction because it was true to its inner logic its so great and always a better product. Dont the stations care enough about quality to encourage a finished script or do
they want to see how it plays in viewerland first? This show
was a cute idea worth 4 episodes because not much is goin' on except the usual cliches x2! God knows the poor actors are try'in their best but they can only chew the scenery with cuteness so long. Sorry i know I am ranting.

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the truth? most shows roll by the ratings. scripts can be deliberately left unfinished / filming starts right away, or scripts get constant revision based on viewer acceptance temperature.

ratings reflect viewer following (now, if they could only include internet following then it would be a trickier computation) so there lies whether the script would be revised or left as it was (if it was written up to the conclusion). otherwise, if viewer following is high, additional episodes are negotiated and then filmed. that's when series are stretched. or get additional seasons.

companies putting their ads on tv look at the ratings per timeslot (and it depends on the strength of the shows in particular slots) - it's like a menu, they choose which ones they'd like their products to be seen. and then each timeslot has a different pricing. usually primetime shows command higher advertising rates.

good ratings = higher advertisement load = yebah! your show gets an extension

lower ratings = lower advertisement load = prepare to dodge the axe of wrath

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wow, izzie!!! ;)

as usual, u did not disappoint with your highly entertaining, detailed and informative reply on how cut-throat the dramaworld (and perhaps even the movie world for that matter) really is...

thanks so much, izzie! ;)

well...money makes the dramaworld go round it seems...

its a sad truth because the truth always hurt...

sighhhhhhh...

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thanks for your appreciation. :)
I don't know about Korea, but where I am, stations cancel the series altogether after not being able to rate decently - even after just a few episodes. others are moved from one timeslot to another, and sometimes from weekdays to weekends, just to feel and capture the right set of audience if they're not performing in the ratings game. (usu. kids and mothers watch on daytime, teenagers, young adults, and adults during primetime... etc.) replacing writers is one thing. you'd be stark raving mad when they resurrect an already dead, but "selling" character. now imagine them doing that to a character like Mishil. :D

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korea the land of the internet..they are left open so they can change plot character and anything else they can think of to fit the feed back and response from internet and other sources. Its why they still make their drama as they write the scripts it also why so many promising K-drama just fade away and the actors seem lost and have no idea what they are suppose to be acting out. Really for a serious actor it must be the most frustrating way of acting anyone could think of.

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sigh...Open Story Line?

Why aren't they just using the manhwa source for ideas? There are a few volumes of material. Why create a kdrama citing some an original source and twist it to contain all these kdrama cliches? or is the manhwa just as cliche-filled?

Anyway, I still enjoy Mary and Mu-Gyul. They have some adorable scenes.

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Well, maybe this is better for the drama. I honestly lost interest about an episode or 2 ago. I continued to read the recaps (leisurely) and kinda didn't care if I actually watched the episode. With that said I still believe in the actors, just hoping for better script.

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I lost interest after episode 2. The recaps are much more fun! :)

Well, I guess it happens to even the best of writers. I loved Goong, but some of it was pretty sub-par, helped along by the strength of its initial premise and its leads' chemistry.

No amount of chemistry has been helping this show. It can only stretch so far. I'll be watching to see if this ship can right itself. I want it to!

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i think the only reason Goong worked was because the source material i.e the manga was awsome plus Hwang in Roe was awsome....since Mary isnt sticking to the source its not the same

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same goes here. funny how I was so antsy about Secret Garden and so full of joy for MSOAN. To think of my obsession with the Glittery track suit and disheartening mung-mung miao couple, i get to think of how awesome if it was led by some other channel. MY thoughts only.

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wow @ Kei. I too do the same as you. I didn't bother watching episodes 7 and 8 at all; I read the recaps and was content with that... It's truly sad that these actors/actresses are being strung along with this sinking ship; tsk tsk tsk!!!

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opps! I meant @ Gracie14 :)
I too do the same as you. I didn’t bother watching episodes 7 and 8 at all; I read the recaps and was content with that… It’s truly sad that these actors/actresses are being strung along with this sinking ship; tsk tsk tsk!!!

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FINALLY! Some hope!...

Honestly, I am disappointed in this drama. I had so much high hope with such suitable cast but ohwell during some episodes I found myself totally dozing off. @[email protected] ( this never happens when I was secret garden lol)

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on second thought, Mugyul and Junin should just make out and fall in love, then neither men cares about mary lol she's free and the plot is more interesting..ahahahah XD *gets shot*

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Secret Garden is too awesome to doze off too.

I honestly gave up on MSOAN after the first 3 episodes, I don't mind the characters, it's the ridiculous plot and how it drags.

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It's strange, I was kind of looking forward to this one and not Secret Garden, but Mary ended up not getting my attention whereas secret garden just hooked me from episode 1.

I cannot wait for this weekend to watch the newest Secret Garden episodes. But as for Mary, if it ended today I wouldn't care.

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ah, thought i was the only one to feel that way. :P

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I know me too...the recaps for MSOAM is enough for me now. I stopped 1/2 through ep.7. Now the recaps on here are better. Now, with SG, I thought it would be awful BUT it's friggin' awesome and hilarious! I laugh at the recaps and just squeal, smile, laugh and "ahh!" at the actual subbed eps.
I can't wait and just salivate (I know 'eww' lol) 'till the eps. come this weekend!! I watch them raw and I don't care!

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I had a feeling we were in for some major changes after the last episode. Mostly because there was no episode 10 preview, but even plotwise, it makes sense that they'd try a new writer now. I can only hope that it gets better, not worse, and that the story remains somewhat cohesive.

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also, maybe the writer saw it coming? because i only barely paid attention to the last episode. either it was actually written half-heartedly, or the rose-colored glasses have finally come off.

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I don't understand why the ratings are soooo low...I'm really liking this drama.

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yeah! i like this drama too but it feels there's a lack of something... looks like bad timing for this switch but it gives us hope to get a better drama from ep. 11...
Now, is it just me or someone else thinks there's a curse for MGY? i actually like her work and her charaters, but somehow the writers mess the stories! i mean, CS created a lot of expectations as MSOAN but went downhill and had an awful ending (btw, i was gonna vote for it, but Bad Guy won for me =S) and now Mary... two flat dramas in a row!!

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Does this mean 2 episodes on Monday?

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I don't find the drama too lacking...or boring.

But there's no draw to it. I won't feel deprived even if I need to wait a while for the next episode...so I guess..that makes it not that big a success?

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I had read episode 10 preview and thought of dropping it, but I loved 18 VS 29, so maybe I will keep watching it now.

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I sure as heck hope this is a good thing, and not a horrible one. Maybe the production didn't like where the old writer was taking the show (from the ep 10 written preview, it sounded like it was heading right for the Cliffs of Cliche) and they decided to get someone with a little more subtlety.

I can always hope, anyway.

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Cliffs of Cliche! Love it!

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HAhahahahahahahaha.......thats a good one!

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Mary Stayed Out All Night: A New Hope

I hope Go Bong-hwang Kenobi can save what's left of the series... and the time and effort of Jang Geun-seok and Moon Geun-young.

I haven't seen the last two episodes out of sheer boredom. Thank goodness for recaps. :P

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hi there, izzie dear! ;)

i agree with you that thank goodness javabeans and girlfriday have not given up on recapping this drama because without their kind perseverance, we have been blessed with so much entertainment from their recapping than from watching the drama itself...

but i don't blame the actors at all...
after all, they are bound by the writing, directing and producing...

and i hope u can find the time to watch the last 2 episodes only because of the devt in plot and characterisation...

and just to share a link from the behind-the-scene of the first kiss between the impossibly-adorable pair Moon Geun-Young and Jang Geun-Seok...

they look positively TOO cute for words in this link...

enjoy!! ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4yDVhnYO6k&feature=related

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ooopsss...typo!!

what i meant was :

*WITH their kind perseverance, NOT without*

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hehe...typical of me - sending the reply before checking it thoroughly...hehe

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hey there, KDL!!! :D been a while!
so, ur following MSOAN. :)

about the actors, I do agree with you that their acting and chemistry is what's been saving the drama, but sans very good writing, the drama deities can only drag it so far.

LOL @ the video you shared. (good thing, I'm still on Moon crack that I didn't feel jealous about it at all!) :D Is it my eyes, or was Moon Geun-young dazed for a while after the kiss? hehe.

Maeri Holidays! :)

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yes, izzie dear, its been a while indeed! ;)
miss u much!!! ;)

ive been following msoan because i really love moon geun young and jang geun suk... ;)

plus javabeans and girlfriday are recapping the drama...

and no, it is not just you...MGY's eyes did look a bit dazed after the kiss... ;)

and YES, i am STILL NOT OVER the Moon just yet...

most probably because i have yet to find another one to take over the place of the Moon... hehe...:)

but Kang Mu-Gyul is fast becoming the one who could very well dethrone Moon Jae-Shin in my heart... :)

i am waiting with bated breath... hehe ... ;)

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"most probably because i have yet to find another one to take over the place of the Moon… hehe…:)

but Kang Mu-Gyul is fast becoming the one who could very well dethrone Moon Jae-Shin in my heart… :)

i am waiting with bated breath… hehe … "

oh! fine by me. :D now if only samgetang and sumee would follow suit, pretty soon I'll have the Moon all by me onesy! :D ahahahaha!
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oh! fine by me. now if only samgetang and sumee would follow suit, pretty soon I’ll have the Moon all by me onesy! ahahahaha!
*ducks*

ooohh izzie!! hehe...how i really miss ur wackiness! ;)

u want to hv the Moon all to yourself yeah??

have you forgotten abt my ass-kick??!!

haha :)

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"have you forgotten abt my ass-kick??!!"

of course not! :) that's the reason why I've been asking Jae-Shin to teach me his roof-climbing techniques :D apparently, he's not so good at dodging arrows and avoiding oncoming swords, so I'll take his skills on vanishing acts (complete with the "dummy guide on how to summon the Gu Yong-Ha"). :D

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Oh my goodness.

Props to the actors who are probably the ones most affected. They have to act out what has been written and I think they've done a good job. Their personalities are established. It's just up to the writer to steer the ship.

Will be interesting how it pans out.

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Thanks for the info, girlfriday and javabeans.

I sincerely hope that the quality of writing can save this drama because I have fallen in love with the CHARACTERS
mainly and only because of the endearing
Jang Geun Suk and Moon Geun Young
but have felt really let down by the writing and plotline
because both actors have SO MUCH potential,
that it is practically CRIMINAL to subject them to such painfully lacklustre writing...

I am looking forward to seeing what the new writer has in store for us viewers. ;)

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wow..so that means we can see the difference between the two writers' work back to back??ep10 and ep11 in the same week but two different writers?? 0.o cant wait to see whatever new improvement the new writer have in her mind...

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eeeeeiiiiihhhh???nandeyo??

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I'm just hoping that the the new writer will stay true to the characters' personalities. Especially Mu-gyul, who's refreshingly different in some aspects.

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I hated the main actress character in 18 vs. 29 she was the (SECOND) most selfish, stupid female lead I have ever seen in drama. The main actress in "Don't Hesitate" is the reigning champ for that title.

I just hope that they don't continue to make Mary (WEAK) it time she become strong and break away from the father who behavior is not acceptable. She need to become a rocker wife material and stop trying to make the Rocker in to a “Daddy” boy, it would be so great if they focus on her development into a woman worthy of Mu-gul soul and not just his heart and mind.

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The actress in Don't Hesitate drove me batty and was the reason I mainly forwarded through the episodes (I can't drop a show once I start it, so I was doomed to watch all 98 episodes).

On the other hand with Mary, it's become one of those shows I watch when I have nothing else to watch, or it runs in the background while I'm "studying" for my finals, which, with such good actors, says something about how interesting it is.

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Honestly the show is terrible, It's too late for me for them to fix the terrible story.

What's funny is GoonG is my all time favorite drama behind the Japanese verison of Hana Yori Dango. It's odd that the screen writer couldn't work some magic into this ridiculous plot.

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Love HYD and Goong also. :D I thought people had forgotten about HYD with all these pretty, trendy dramas, but for me, that drama rocked my socks :)

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There's something about HanaDan that will always make me rewatch that show. That even though I've seen a lot of Japanese and Korean dramas, once in a while I rewatch some of the episodes (both seasons) to reminisce and be reminded why I fell in love with HanaDan in the first place.

On topic. Was not really interested from the start, and reading from the comments, I have completely lost my interest.

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Hi! New reader here. I also love HYD! I think I've rewatched the entire series and movie about three times. There's something about the show that makes you wanna watch it again and again. And the scenes never seem old even when you repeat them.

As for MMM, I'm following the show but it seems pretty dragging. It's not the kind of drama which you would like to watch all over again just because nothing really happens much on each episode. I do love the lead characters, though. And I'm repulsed by the parents. AIGOO! I just hope the new writer could do the job. This show really needs some saving. ;)

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owh, I didn't know they can't do that :O

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it depends on whom the story concept belongs to: the producer or the writer/s. and on the terms of the production contract.

I'm not sure if producers can do such a thing to the likes of the Hong sisters - not that their writing style s*cks or can s*ck.

replacing writer/s is a very risky thing for a drama that's halfway through. it would be very difficult for the replacement writer to pick the pieces up after the last one. I'm wondering if there ever was a proper turnover of tasks between the two, and how it happened.

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Ha, ha anything, as long as they don't replace the cast (JGS, MGY, KJW). If they do, they just simply can not be helped.

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story needs more logic. :/

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I just wish that someday(hopefully next year..keke) HONG SISTER will have another awesome drama project and have the Geun-Geun Couple in it!!!

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Looking forward to some clever writing and hopefully higher ratings. The best is yet to be.

Go Mung-mung meow!!

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Well, might as well try that. After all, what have we got to lose?

I agree with you, jb. Such a waste of a wonderful cast!

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Oops, sorry, I meant I agree with you, gf

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Argh. Let's just all hope for the best and I wish that someday(next year perhaps???) ,HONG SISTERS will have another awesome drama with the Geun-Geun couple in it. A girl can dream...

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I'm only really watching for the Mary/Mu-gyul moments (mostly because I wish I was cuddling up to JGS), checking out KJW . I lost interest in the story sometime ago. I think there was a lot of potential with some of the actors involved, and it seems like this drama isn't using their abilities well. Wonder how they can try to turn this around with this new writer.

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thanks jb.

I would like to think positive but with the last cliched, writen by the 1st writer not logic to change the main plot as more criticism will be bombard.

So, most probably the JI and SJ character will be "minced" off to pieces while the main plot will shine through.

Anyway fighting kim Jae Wook - Jung In.

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Dandelion here,

Oh! sorry girlfriday thank you !.

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Too bad the writer didn't have a real Mary to help her figure out what the viewers really like. Keeping fingers crossed that the new writer will bring this show to its' full potential.

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ah,

i havent watch this since ep 2. my expectation is too high but it went meh. since i saw the performance of MGY in CS and JGY on YB i was like Oh yeah!!. but. ep 2 uh bummer. Since the airing of SG it didnt even occur to me about this drama. bad.

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I had this drama on my anticipated watch list, but the stills and the 1st recap killed it for me....I saw NOTHING of what I envisioned in my mind's eye what the drama could produce....

These actors are not nearly as s-t-r-e-t-c-h-e-d as they SHOULD be professionally, and that is disappointing.

Unfortunate, because there was HIGH hopes for this one but it sunk it before my eyes little by little before it began and then with the 1st epi.....

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oops *but they sunk*....

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I'm totally agree with you.
MSOAN was on my watch-list but this drama is just another huge disappointment for me. I'm still calculating which one was and is a big disappointment; MSOAN or CS (yeah, I'm still bitter about that. can't help it)?
I love MGY, I truly do. But even she can't make me to watch MSOAN. Gah, what a waste.
JGS and MGS. Adorable couple on screen with not-so-adorable script. *sigh*......

Off topic but somehow related.
Now I am afraid what will happen to second drama on my watch-list which will air next week; Athena. And same like MSOAN, I was excited about Athena but better be prepare for the worst. Not so optimistic, am I?
Well I think it is better than if I gulp another BIG BIG BIG disappointment latter on.

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oops, I mean MGY not MGS.

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I hope this change is for the better! As much as I adore M&M and savour all their moments together, I can't deny that I'm getting tired of the pace and characterisation. The cast deserves a better chance to work their potential.

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I don't deny that the drama hasn't been spectacular and while I've been watching both Secret Garden and Mary, I feel like Secret Garden has been really boring of late--- the body swap was fun for an episode but it started to get stale. I'm probably the only person who finds it kind of overrated.

Whereas I felt like with Mary, it really picked up from Episode 7 and I loved 8 and 9. I really wished there was more support for this drama though.

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Hi, Natalie!! ;)

I think i am the only other person who agrees with you that for me MSOAN has been more interesting since eps 8 and 9...hehe ;)

but i have not been won over by the Secret Garden camp because i have never liked the body swapping part to begin with...

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You are not the only person who finds the body swap thing overrated. I have always hated the body swap story line: I hated it in Buffy, I hated it in Smallville, and now that there is a whole series dedicated to it... I liked the story before the body swap, and I knew it was going there, but once it happened I was just like... meh.

I love Mary, even though I know why it's getting low ratings: it honestly deserves it. I like silliness, which this show has in spades, but the majority of the viewing public needs a more intense plot. Or A plot. In this case, half a plot would probably make them happy. I adore the characters, but that's all anyone can honestly say about this show. I'll be interested to see what the new writer can come up with.... and I kinda wish they would have switched earlier.

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I actually was more interested in the story before the body swap, now with the weird ending of the latest episode, it just seems gimmicky! I mean, it was fun while it lasted but with that ending, the whole idea seems a little cheap.

I love Mary a lot too, I love the main 3 a lot, still not sure about Seo Joon/Hyo Jin. I love it for all its silliness and flaws, and the dialogues from the recent eps have been really strong imo, but i wished it'd been more over the top what with two contract marriages and everything, which might have then kept the viewers interests. I think it deserves the low ratings, but the latest ratings were seriously bad! I expected at least a dedicated fanbase, since its really popular on the internet (although we know that doesn't count for anything)

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Me too.Other than the few laughs, the body swap was pointless. I wish they dug deeper into it. It annoys me to see Binnie making Ga-rim into a stereotype female. They should have left out the bodyswapping. It was really interesting before the swap.

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yes, Natalie! i agree with u that with star power in Jang Geun Suk and Moon Geun Young, the drama should have a stronger fanbase than what it has been getting...

i have never been a 'dedicated' fan of both actors but i have always liked their acting because of their impressive acting talent and that is why i have been watching it and now i am so hoping the writer can make the immensely talented actors worth their while being in this drama... ;)

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wow, thanks brookeve! ;)

am i glad to know i have someone else other than natalie who thinks the same way as i do about the body swapping thing... ;)

and i agree with you about MSOAN...

we ALL love SOME silliness in the dramas that we watch BUT it only goes so far before we go bonkers with boredom...

thus, you are so right, brookeve, about the drama needing a SOLID plot, before it really becomes a TITANIC flop...

i was ruminating about the plot so far...

perhaps the writer can expand on
the wayward-can't-commit-rocker-becoming-dependably-honest-man plot line
plus the back story on Jung In not wanting to remember what happened when he was 8 has something to do with Mary's dad???

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ooopsss!! sorry, brookeeve, i misspelled your post-name as 'brookeve'... ;)

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It's cool!

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looking back at the pre-pilot episode photos of MSOAN, Jung In pretty much looked indie band material. (nothing about the short shorts, the hair, the boots and the leggings screamed "businessman") i wonder what that's for. is he supposed to seriously join the band? what of his injured hand?

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EXACTLY, izzie!!! my sentiments exactly but i forgot to mention it...

what IS with Jung In's injured fingers connected with the guitar?

what happened to him that he hurt himself so badly?

hmmm....

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his hand was explained as self inflicted due to depression. His father told him to stop playing so he did, but he loved it so much he couldn't handle it. Actually they put some nice points up in the drama. Depression affecting a 'star' due to anti fan attack and the effect it could have and now again depression with family pressure, both pretty ongoing 'issues' in Korea.

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thanks so much, bjharm, for your kind reply!! ;)

i did see it in the drama that he was self-mutilating out of sheer frustration and helplessness...

but i wonder if there is more to the story about his father not wanting the son to be a musician than simply the explanation given...

and i totally agree with you abt the issues in the drama being relevant and current as reflected in the media abt the lives of the people in the cut-throat and less-than-rosy entertainment industry...

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Changing the writer now? Interesting. I still think there is hope to switch things around. It's not like there are only 2 episodes left. Anything can happen in 6 episodes.
I personally don't think the drama has been flat but then again i wasn't really expecting too much so I find it enjoyable. So i think switching writers might be just what it needs.

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a change this late? now, im actually looking forward to watch the show after the first few eps.. the pacing and the (lack of) logic really put me off. but i love the cast so much, i just watch the show for them. though i find myself tending to multi-task while the show plays in the background.

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girlfriday thanks !.

The 6 episodes LEFT will focus on the main couple whilst the @2nd leads will be thrash at the sidelines !!.

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frankly, I would have just stuck with the old writer since its way too late to gain new watchers and such a move could possibly alienate people who are already watching!

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oh my.... i hope the change isn't THAT drastic... i mean if mary becomes a whiny self-sacrificing female lead (like jandi) then i'm out of this drama.

whatever happens, i hope the characters' personalities aren't compromised by this big shift in writing...>,<

thanks for sharing the news.

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"i mean if mary becomes a whiny self-sacrificing female lead (like jandi) then i’m out of this drama"

if mary becomes an all-around doormat, self-sacrificing, spineless female lead (like Oh Hani) then i’m not even gonna read the recaps.

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so true. i didn't even finish pk though khj is one of my top kpop biases. bad acting and bad story just killed it.>,<

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hehe... at least you did watch PK a bit but i did not even bother doing that BECAUSE KHJ was in it...

just was not won over by all the hype abt him after BOF...

hehe ;)

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yes, yes!!! if Mary turned out to be ANYTHING like the 2 characters you mentioned, i will scream bloody murder at the writer!!!

hehe ;)

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oh vicious! you have to calm down. :D let's wait and see. maybe this new writer would be able pull out a better rabbit from the hat. :) oh please, story, live up to your potentials! :(

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best wishes to us all then!=) *prays intently to kdrama gods*

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wow i actually have been enjoying the drama, especially since i feel it it's started to pick up
i'm also surprised that the writer was the one for goong - and now comparing the two differences, what happened to the inspiration of the writer?!

i agree there wasn't any logic but
how much logic is there in dramas to begin with? lol.

hope that the new writer will "save" the drama and give audience a second chance to change their opinion about this!

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what's not to lose if they change the writer now anyway they are already at their lowest. could probably save er improve the show even.
honestly i've switched to watching secret garden when it aired and just keeping tabs on MSOAN thru the recaps here.
the main couple are cute..indeed yes but i don't see them act more like adults and even more because the story says they basically raised themselves on their own.

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i started off give MSOAN with all my heart watch it really positive mind and resist the temptation of follow the uber popular secret garden...

but week after week... i began to lose it...

you can only love one drama without seeing it so much ...

i hate everything else in it except the moment when maeri with mu geul ....HATE EVERYTHING..especially the dad ..GOD... SO ANNOYED. .
BUT I CONTINUE TO WATCH IT OUT OF LOYALTY..

it's break my heart to see something that could be so good turn bitter..

and ala... i gave secret garden a try.. and

GOD it's really live up the hype...it blows me away..

the writer is so good although im not a fan for a swapping part but everything else was good...

REALLY GOOD...

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yeah i totally stopped watching this last week but now i may have to catch up with this week's episodes... just to see how it changes. lol darn it

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well, i'm hoping the script gets better cos i'm definitely sticking around as I love MR and MG.

Sorry to say this but a gentle suggestion to those who do not watch this show but ONLY read the recaps;

Perhaps you should actually WATCH the show before repeatedly criticising it. Just becos so-and-so reviewer thinks a particular drama is not good may not mean that YOU will not enjoy it.. After all, a reviewer's opinion is only that.. their PERSONAL opinion; coloured by their own experiences, likes and dislikes, not necessarily a yardstick to measure a drama's worth of your time..

and if you have watched it and dislike it so much.. why are you still wasting your precious time slamming it?

JMHO

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i totally agree with u!!!

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LOL @ your "gentle" but words in caps. And I hope the "H" in your JMHO meant "honest" and not "humble." :)

Anyway, I fall in neither of your categories: slamming but ONLY reading recaps, or watching but disliking it SO MUCH. It wasn't a direct hit on me, but I felt side-swept so I will waste my precious time on this. I watched episodes of the show, got bored and resorted to reading recaps for the last two episodes instead of giving it up altogether - I'm giving the show a chance. And I'm not relying on the recapper's opinion, for although they express their minds on what they write, I don't always agree with them. Anyway, those are recaps mixed with reviews and not solely reviews. I can ignore the opinions if I want to.

But lemme say that when people are displeased with something that they have put their faith into, they can and will express their disappointment. After all, their (our) precious time were wasted getting something they (we) didn't expect - in a negative way.

If you want to defend MSOAN, you have every right to. But I hope you would try to point out its redeeming qualities to prove the slammers wrong rather than question others' motives for expressing their displeasure. Me, I appreciate the way that the actors deliver the characters and that's a positive side of the show that I see. Unfortunately, I can't find anything else to keep watching the airing episodes. But I'm still hoping that the story make a turn at the right corner cuz I'm a JGS fan, and I find MGY a good actress too. It would be a waste of their talents, time and effort if the show stays on it disappointing tracks.

Just my honest opinion.

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i watch the drama and read the recaps. it's pretty cool and tear jerking but there are better dramas. i watch a lot of dramas. in dramabeans, every drama is fair game. your angry vibes are crossing over onto my screen. this isn't an MSOAN fan thread or forum. everyone has the right to say what they want i think. peace.=)

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Finally, someone says it! I love Javabeans and Girlfriday to death, but I know that they're recaps and reviews are their own interpretation of the show, rather than biblical truth.

I admit, I was one of those who blindly followed the recaps and shied away from kdramas that they thought were bad. One example was Take Care of the Young Lady. But when I watched it recently, it was actually quite good! I was so frustrated with myself for passing judgment on a show based on what someone else said.

Seeing that JB and GF are intelligent and insightful writers, I'm sure they themselves would encourage independent and critical thinking in their readers.

PS: I gotta disagree though, MSOAN is really bad. As boring as Goong was, in my book.

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I think moon geun young must have been rlly frustrated. Cinderella's sister and now this. Both suffered from poor toting. And both started out gd! SAD!
And my jgs also. Gd acting but nv really had a breakthru. Even YAB's ratings can't be compared to BOF etc

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Cinderella's sister wasn't that bad in terms of ratings.

http://wiki.d-addicts.com/Cinderella's_Sister/Episode_Ratings

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I gave up on the episode 4. Now I'm just watching the previews and skimming through the recaps. I really like KJW and MGY, but their character are sooooo annoying. She is constantly whining and pouting and he is just expressionless. Argh.
JGS, surprisingly, doesn't do much for me. Loved him in Hong Gil Dong, but that's about it.

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Glad that it'll have a new hope for the new writer. I won't hope for better rating, but a better story. Because this drama already got sold to a lot of countries, at very least can make a new group of viewers to enjoy and not embarrass JKS, MGY, KJW and the rest of the casts. I still hope for good critics and abuzz. hope it'll save actors' skills and faces. I love them much and wanna enjoy the show without sigh and dissapoinment almost at the end of every episodes.

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just to add to my previous comment on #41

just to make it clear..
i did watch the show.. still watch it until now..

"when i say love the drama so much without seeing it.."

it actually mean i loved it way before the drama aired..

when it finally aired i watched it but episode after episode,,it keep disappointing me..

and i don't think that it's wrong to express that i don't like it..

it's a common sense for people to express their opinion when they like something or dis-like something..

and if i watched it and don't like it of course i will say so...

i'm not gonna waste my time to express anything only if i didn't watch the drama or i'm feeling so-so..

just sayin'
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The quality of the writing and the plot and the directing matter more than the actors. Some actors are good at choosing the right drama/movie.

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perhaps its better this way and te story can become more logical, interesting, and perhaps break some new ground as far as stereotypes go

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I was also thinking of dropping 2 episodes ago. But as I was waiting for secret garden, i figured that it could tide me over for a couple of days. I admit to dozing off at some scenes so really hope that the change of writers can bring back our love for MSOAN as well as some fans who dropped out.

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