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I guess I picked a good time to wander over here.
I'm feeling a little lost at sea right now, with My Princess and Dream High ended. What to watch?! I'm watching Paradise ranch every now and then, but pretty much only when I'm waiting for something else to get posted. And I'm watching Once Upon A Time in Saeng Cho Ri, but that's only once a week. Maybe I need to dig in the archives and watch something that I've overlooked a hundred times before. Or rewatch something. Or reintroduce myself to netflix. sigh. come back my cheesy fluff shows, please.
Since I tried learning Mandarin a year ago, Id say it helped me recall some of the words from this tdrama :-) xie xie ;-) But, yes, it takes a while to get used to it after listening to Korean for most of the dramas we've been watching for sometime now. :-) Makes me wonder why i dont get to learn Korean faster, hehe...
hmmm seen sunny happiness already...as usual Mike He was awesome in that drama... his brilliance is the only reason I watched... Unfortunately, I do not like the female lead... I find her acting yucky...sorry...
I had zero interest in watching Queen of Reversals, but I picked it up after reading girfriday's review and I am so loving it! The first 4-5 episodes were kind of slow although I guess necessary for setup, but it starts to get really good around episode 7. There's lots of comedy to balance the divorce/breaking up angst, the dialogue and plot is well-written, and the main character is flawed but kickass. I love how she is not a typical Candy, but instead very smart, confident, and a little arrogant and tactless at times, although she has a soft side too. The workplace politics are well done, and so is the anatomy-of-a-breakup, and the way a couple slowly becomes like strangers, at least on the outside. And Park Shi Hoo! I never watched anything with him before, but I love him here. Add his secretary and it's pure win!
Anyway, I didn't mean to make this so long, but if you haven't watched it I recommend it!
I don't think it's gotten to makjang yet. For some reason even if it has makjang elements, I get a slow and leisurely vibe to it. JooHee (RaRa's "mom") scares the crap out of me, though. She's like "perfect" on the outside but is so scheming. I love the grandparents.
Actually, I like the characters. For some reason, they seem real to me.
I'm quite liking season 5 of Skins UK. I've only watched the first four episodes though; I'm watching "Nic" and "Alo" tonight. There's a nice YouTube user who is posting all of the episodes the day they air, which is glorious for US people like me, 'cause then I can stream through my streaming box to my TV.
So far my favorite episode of season 5 is "Mini." She's a bitch of righteous proportions, but her episode was a gorgeous deconstruction of an adolescent queen bee. It was written by Georgia Lester who also wrote season 3's "Pandora" and season 4's "Katie." Georgia is by far the best writer on the Skins UK team.
To any US people who have Netflix, Skins UK seasons 1-3 are on Instant Watch (season 4 is out on DVD), and it's an absolutely fantastic show. Although season 4 is a bit fucked, to be honest. Just bear in mind that the cast members change out every two years, so don't go bent when Tony, Chris and Cassie are suddenly gone in season 3. Also, it's an intense show, full of drugs, sex, profanity, and teenagers in seriously fucked up familial situations. Most of the writers for the show are in their teens and early twenties, so there's a lot of truth in it. It's funny and heartbreaking, but it might not be for everyone.
@SLH (Santa's little helper) Have you been watching Misfits, also on E4? That show is absolutely hilarious, with incredibly tight writing and plotting, and brilliant characterization. I think it's even better than Skins, to be honest. Misfits is one of the best shows I have ever watched, and Nathan is a laugh and a half! There is also a lovely YouTuber who has been posting full episodes, so I rewatched the first two seasons last weekend. Excellent!
Malia, Nathan is far and away my favorite character! Well, no, actually, he and Simon are tied for favorite, but Simon tugs on my heartstrings while Nathan makes me laugh until I choke. Choke, I tell you!
Here are Robert (Nathan) and Iwan (Simon) in a little interview snippet, joking that Iwan only speaks Welsh. I love how Iwan goes along with Robert's craziness. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSLMZEkF5W8 Warning: Some Profanity!
Another vote for Misfits. Probably the funniest show I watched last year, but also with amazing writing and acting too. Some of the cinematography is a bit too stylised for its own good but it's a small fault in an overall great show.
I tried watching Skins, but it was a bit much for me to handle. And it honestly wasn't even the drugs and sex, it was the coldheartedness of that one guy (Tony?) that made my skin crawl.
Yeah, season 1 Tony was an utter twat, a complete asshole tool. Props to Nicholas Hoult for making him such a convincing megalomaniac. If Skins isn't your cup of tea, definitely don't force it. But, for what it's worth, Tony gets his karmic retribution in a big (HUGE) way at the end of season 1, and season 2 deals about him finding his way back to normalcy and functionality after this huge, life-altering event (it's insane, trust me). It's worth it if you hate Tony. Or if you find him fascinating like I do. God, he's such a c*nt. :-)
I really liked it. It's a Dr. Who spinoff. Very intense, if I remember correctly. It was exactly the right thing for my sci-fi marathon, and my love of any and all British accents.
Oh my word, I LOVE The IT Crowd! I just finished season 4 and it absolutely killed me. I want to marry Moss. But my all-time favorite moment of the show is from season 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab8GtuPdrUQ
Every single time my husband says "Oh" I start singing the emergency number. It drives him insane. Haha, I'm such a bad woman. Moss making out hardcore with Roy to evade the police in season 3 is another epic moment. Ah lurves eet!
Also, where did you hear that Robert Sheehan won't be back for Misfits season 3??? THAT CAN'T HAPPEN! Seriously, give me linkies so I can read and start to worry. But honestly, I highly doubt that will come to pass. Robert Sheehan is amazing, and they will do whatever it takes to keep him on board. Nathan is such a hilarious, excellent character (and so profane, oh my God). I want more behind the scenes interviews with Robert and Iwan saying, "I wanna piss on your tits." HAHAHA. :D They had better keep him on, or you will have to make sure that Santa doesn't give E4 any presents this year!
Lastly, thanks for the recommendations! I'll search them out. I grew up on British television and I love it. That sharp, dry humor totally turns me on, yo. I also enjoyed/am enjoying Shameless, My Family, Coupling etc. Coupling is worth it just for episode 1.04 "Inferno" with Steve's "Lesbian Spank Inferno" rant. Have you seen Coupling?
"Yes thank you for bringing that up Lahlita, god knows it might have slipped by unnoticed." :p
British TV is just WIN!!!
I love Moss xD
The Rob news i heard from god knows where ;A; But it had to do with him doing a film project ~ and so apparently the director of that film said something on his Twitter about Rob not being able to do Misfits ;(
I hope its all BS :(
BTW you are the coolest chick EVER!!! :3
If you haven't been on this site before I totally recommend it! It will feed all your BritTV needs & MORE!
Shit, YOU might be the coolest chick ever. And here I was thinking that between Javabeans, Girlfriday and Brookeeve, I was all stocked up with cool. You, Crimsonskyx, are BAD. ASS! Thank you so much for the site, lady! I'll be sure to check it out. If I ever need more BritTV fixes, I'll be sure to drop you a line. Thanks to your livejournal URL I know how to find you.
“Yes thank you for bringing that up Lahlita, god knows it might have slipped by unnoticed.”
No problem. *grins like Patrick* :D
See ... as a spur to future excellence amongst the Dramabeans collective, I've decided that the losers -- the ones who like the worst media -- better have a bit of a spanking.
Oh, and I just finished watching "Nick" (Skins UK ep 5.05). I. Loved. It. I actually watched it through twice, the only episode beside "Mini" which I've watched twice in this season. There were a few moments in which the writing was a bit cliche or overwrought, but overall it was a beautiful, emotional episode. And, DAMN, Sean Teale can act! I was with him the entire time. He's so expressive and raw. And I love how much the camera loves him; oftentimes we were zoomed in so closely that it was almost overwhelming. He brought it. After watching "Nick" twice, I'm exhausted so I'll just watch "Alo" tomorrow.
I just read a newsarticle that shocked me soo much! Bea yoon bae is to we Lee na Young? ok true it was a false rumor, but the shocking part is when I saw how old BYB was. Cause I thought he was really old, that's why I did'nt think it was true anyway, but it turns out BYB is not 50 but 38 :o. I feel so silly now, why did I think he was so old in the first place? Because of his seemingly perfect skin? I mean it looked so perfect, I thought it was fake. Anyhow just wanted to share my shocking discovery *goes into witness protection programm* (japenese ajuhmma's, you can't find me now:p)
me too...I always thought he was in his mid to late forties and was really surprised to find out he was only 38....I think he looked older in Dream High with the round glasses
I´m from Germany and I started watching K-Dramas when I started learning Korean some time ago. Since I´ve become a huge fan and love to discuss those dramas I´m watching with my friends, I thought that it might be worth a shot to ask you guys wether some of you might be in Seoul/Korea at the end of the year - I´ll be staying in Seoul from October 2011 onwards for some time and right now I don´t know anybody there... would be nice to get to know people besides those from work though!
Hey there,
I'm from Germany too and will be in Seoul again next year around February and March during my semester break. I've already been to Seoul three times so far, so if you're still in Seoul around that time I wouldn't mind hanging out with you ;)
@kc how about 9th with 2 out or you already watched it?im not watch my princess yet,i kinda 'save the best for the last' or just my pirate dvd seller didnt have it.
With Dream High and My Princess over I'm rewatching Boys Over Flowers japanese version again and it got me thinking, which version do you guys prefer? (I know you have probably discussed this already but I only discovered this site till recently so now I'm curious) So which one, japanese, korean or taiwanese version?
For me the Taiwanese version is the best (if you also love to watch Japanese drama you'll notice that they are rather lacking in the romantic department, somehow they don't know how to explore/express the emotion to the fullest extend - don't kill me for saying this - it's just how I feel).
But if you watch the Tversion please REMEMBER to STOP at Meteor Garden I, DON'T even try to see MG II!
And Jerry Yan is awesome!!
(Should I also claim him as mine? Nobody is claiming him right? Tell me know if he is yours otherwise he is so mine!)
I liked the Korean because they didn't have that anti-foreigner thing that the Japanese one had when the lead was set up in the hotel. Like being with a foreigner was disgusting.
Korean is anti-japanese. If you watch Giant, you will know what I mean!! Many Korean dramas and movies also have the anti-Japanese undertone. More recently, they also have some anti-American, anti-Chinese and anti-migration themes!! Bravo!!!
I do not know what to make of your comment, since it seems to me that in the beginning you are making a commentary about Koreans suffering from "Xenophobia", and that it is quiet easy seen in the dramas and movies as in the example of the drama "Giant" the you gave, to only give a loud "Bravo" at the end, so as to imply that you do agree with your statement, that Korean are "Xenophobes and suffer from Immigrant Prejudice".
I have never seen your handle before so, you may be knew around here, but when you go out of your way to make a statement concerning race and prejudice, is only a matter of time before some one calls you upon it!!!!!!
I think it will be of great help to us if you will "clarify" your above statement, since from my point of reading , it seems to me that you may be the one suffering from "Xenophobia and Prejudice".
I did not meant to offend you , but since this forums is a "Multiracial" one derogatory comments are seen as a flaming assault on a lot of peoples backgrounds and sensibility's concerning racial background!!!!!
My clarification will be based on specific examples which signifies the undertones of racisms in some recent Korean dramas and movies that I happen to read from the Japanese, Korean and Chinese bloggers.
FYI, I do not watch many Korean dramas and movies, just occassional fews, and I found the "undertones" interesting, at times very intense and nationalistics.
If you want to know direct racisms on anti-Japanese sentiments, please watch Capital Scandal. I am here only to point out or clarify on the undercurrent which is now unfolding in Japan and China on Korean wave!!
(1) Giant - anti-Japanese & anti-American
Referring to Episode 35 to 37 (based on my recollection), when Song Mu tried to unseat Jo Pil Yeon
during the election, the undercurrent he brought to table was that JPY's father was a spy who used to help the Japanese during its 35-year of occupation.
You can see the anti-American sentiment or belittle the american sentimen in the first few episodes of Giant. You may recall when KSY stole the classified information from the American chief of staff, the drama just potrayed how clueless and idiotic of the senior American intelligence was.
(2) Daemul - anti-Chinese (or rather showed Korean superiority as how GHJ projected herself to the Premier of China), rather than attention her anger directly towards the North Korean.
Anti-American undercurrent by showing some sloppy American wearing an oversize clothes as the US President against the tall GHJ.
Then followed by an anti-migration theme when KSW shouting at GHJ's son telling him he would growing up a stateless soul if he happened to reside in Australia. KSW appeared to have won many votes for this particular scenes in Korea, if I recalled correctly. I thought it was a real Bravo for KSW to be able to turn around his "fengshui" from bad to good.
FYI, I happen to know how to read a bit of Chinese and did surf the Chinese board/blog on Daemul. Basically, the sentiments in China fans were to boycott Daemul. At the same time, the netizen also raised the anti-Korean sentiments on Queen Seonduk which I do not wish to go into details here. I thought it was a Bravo to have such a huge anti-Korean sentiments discussed over in Baidu in a spend of one month.
(3) Actresses - movie
You may recall, Lee Ming Sook telling CJW that she was surprise that CJW can speak Korean, she thought she can only speak Japanese. Then you see the smirks from the rest of the actresses. I thought this is a real "Bravo" for the PD to capture those smirks on the face.
If you happen to read some of the Japanese blogs, this smirks were actually brought up as well.
BTW, if you are not aware of the Japanese anti-Korean wave, you may want to check this out:
We are here to discuss about korean dramas, you think too much. Relax and have some peace of mind. Otherwise, you will always be so tense and on a defensive mood.
Haha...you are talking to a person who was born in Lyon, brought in Hong Kong, Japan, Korea, Australia and Singapore. Schooled in UK, US and Canada. Worked and lived in DC, NY, Vienna, Geneva, Nairobi, Manila, Jakarta and Kuala Lumpur!! ^------------^ Visit close to 120 UN member states now at a tender age of ....so you may know the history by reading, I actually wrote so of the countries history now!!
Firstly, thank you for taking the time to respond.
Secondly, I am so glad that you have the chance to travel around the world, and have a good education, as you seem to imply in your last post.
Thirdly, I gave you ample reasons as why Koreans seem to look xenophobes, and racist trough the eyes of dramas and movies.
Fourthly, I was not trying to patronize you at all, something that seems that you are doing to the ones who happen to disagree with you, and I personally resent that.
Fifthly, you are implying that because I study the history of China, Korea, Japan, and other Asian Country's, some how that knowledge is invalidated because you have travel around the world? Well I am sorry to tell you that you are if not wrong, indeed a bit miss inform.
Last but not least;
The fact that you choose to ignore my question, and the historical background that I gave you, and decide to answer me, in a back handed manner it proves to me that in reality you are the "Xenophobe" and have some serious prejudices towards Koreans, and since this is a forum that deals with Korean culture, and furthermore is run by two of the most outstanding Korean-American Lady's in cyber-space, I will ignore what you have to say on the basis that you do not contribute any positive commentary to this blog.
Again please refer to the heading of this blog i.e. Dramabeans. It is a forum to discuss Korean dramas. Please keep a moment of quiet, and look inside yourself, and have some inner peace.
I am here to find some entertainment and some peace of mind. Om......Om.....^___________^
I am so glad, my dear SpongeBob, that you can inform Amg1 and I what this blog is about. In the past year that Amg1 and I have been writing on this blog, we must have missed the point of it entirely. It is so good that you, whom I believe I have seen write here once or twice before, can tell us what we have been doing wrong.
That was sarcasm, in case you missed it.
The title of this blog is, in fact, Dramabeans, with the subheading of Deconstructing Korean Dramas and K-Pop Culture. You brought up that you think that Koreans are racist. This is a view that you garnered about Korean culture. Amg1 and I were only trying to say that you are wrong, which I believe that we have proved adequately.
Look, if you don't want us to jump on your case, let me share with you a quote that my students often spout. 'Don't start none, won't be none.' This means if you are uncomfortable with the way that the discussion is going, you shouldn't have started it. You don't get to stop it just because you suddenly sense that you are on the losing side and start with some tantric BS. This is where you make an apology as you have offended more than one person, and then you can move on.
Sooo yeah ... this is my hopefully one and only response to Spongebob...
I will try to keep it short and to the point..
What the f*ck is your problem? Don't come on this blog and start sh*t. This is not the place for it. If you want to troll on a website and cause discord. please. choose. another. website.
Do not come and harm and spread your ignorant netizen ways on DB.
You want to have a discussion on the anti-foreign lean that some kdramas have fine, here is how your post should have been:
"Korean dramas can be anti foreign. IMO, Giant is an good example. I have seen many Korean dramas and movies also have the anti-foriegn undertones."
From there, you could have had an amazing discourse in relation to that topic.
That's it.
No calling people western stray dogs.
That is utterly repulsive not needed here.
Even "strays" deserve dignity from others.
In case you forgot AMERICA is ALL about the STRAYS.....
No matter how well your formal education "might" be you sorely lack the social skills to be on this website.
Oh yeah one last thing.. COWARDS like you hide behind a computer.
I'm not going to be as nice as Amg1 here. I know, first time for everything.
Dude, step back. My step-son is Korean, and my brother is Japanese. Think about something before you write it. Normally, I can disagree with people and be respectful, but this is not one of those instances. What you said ain't cool, it ain't right, and I got no patience for stupidity like yours.
I can give you examples of how Americans hate foreigners, too. Lots of them. Does that mean that all Americans everywhere hate foreigners? I guess that means I'm going to have to stop hanging out with lots of my friends.
When you make broad sweeping generalizations about an entire country, you my friend are being racist. I think that it is sad that you claim to be part Korean and have this negative stereotype in your head about your own relatives and in turn your own self. Not every Korean is anti-American or anti-Japanese, and that is what you are saying and therefore I have every right to be offended that you are accusing my friends and relatives of being close-minded bigoted pricks. So yeah, I'm going to stand up for my friends and family. Deal with that however you want, but you will not convince me that you are in the right.
*Racism, Xenophobia, and Prejudice in Korean Dramas and Films*
My Dear @ SpongeBob.
Firstly, I want to thank you for clarifying, your first post, since it will give us a more concrete avenue in which we can respond to your above comments.
Secondly, I am not Asian, but one of my nicknames that some of my friends calls me is “El Chino”, meaning the “Chinese One”, I have exposed myself to the “Asian Cultures” as a whole for the past 25 years of my adult life, starting with the Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese, Thailand, Cambodia, India, the Middle East, and for the past 6 years the Korean culture.
During the past 25 years I have study some of the different Asian cultures and there is something that I have found out, China, Japan, and Korea, share a very unique “national, (writing), and cultural, and belicos, bond that has been century’s in the making. I am by no means an expert on “Asian Study's” but as an “outsider”, it gives me the advantage, to read and study the historical background, without any familial, and cultural extra baggage as I try to interpret the facts, I am not implying at all, and let me make that clear again, I am not implying that native people have a bias point of view as they interpret their own history, but that bias does exist, and that bias is what I will like to used as the glue that binds the argument that people are trying to make.
Historically speaking we know that it is human nature to hold a “bias or prejudice”, towards the people we do not like, or behave different than we do, it comes at its core from the point of a survival instinct, and the ignorance to the “unknown”, I do not believe that this natural and visceral feeling or frame of mind is wrong at all, but rather how we express this bias, is what makes it right or wrong.
* Chinese Invasion of Korea*
In the year 1619 the leaders of the Joseon Dynasty, sent 10,000 troops to China to help the Ming Dynasty (lead by ethnic Hans), battle the newly form Manch Dynasty (Lead by the Manchus).
This lead to the “First Invasion of Korea” by the Manchus in the year 1627, at the command of “ Huang Taiji”, the Korean leaders struck a peace accord with the Manchus only to opposed the creation of the Qing Dynasty by Huang Taiji, this opposition brought about the “Second Invasion of Korea” in the winter of 1637, this was very bad for the Koreans since they lost the war, to become a “tributary state” to the Qing Dynasty.
*Japanese Invasion of Korea*
In the year 1592 the Japanese invaded Korea under the command of “ Toyotomi Hideyoshi” lasting till 1596, and
then the “Second invasion” from (1597 to 1598).
Toyotomi Hideyoshi's, plan was to conquer Korea, The Jing and Ming Dynasty’s of China, and eventually India.
The Japanese invasion was bad for Japan at Sea, and bad for Korea in land, the Koreans lost thousands of soldiers and civilians. But japan fail at the conquest of Korea and China.
From (1 August 1894 – 17 April 1895) Japan and Korea engage in what is call the “First Sino-Japanese war. Now it is rather cumbersome for me to address this part of history since history clearly shows that Korea was at the loosing end of both China and Japan. This two nations engage in a war for the control of Korea, with Japan being victorious at the end of the conflict. One of the saddest incidents at the end of this conflict was the murder of Empress Myeongseong (19 October 1851 – 8 October 1895), also known as Queen Min, at the hand of Japanese soldiers, since she was view by the Japanese as and obstacle to the annexation of Korea by Japan.
Japan successfully annex Korea on 17 November 1905, but by the signing of the the “Eulsa Treaty or Japan-Korea Protectorate Treaty” the annexation was ratified in 1910.
I do not have the time to go in depth concerning the “Inhuman, and barbaric treatment of the Korean people by the Japanese invaders, specially the woman who where subject to horrific sexual abuse and mistreatment” that the government of Japan still denies till this day!
Japan's unconditional surrender to the Allied Forces, on 15 August 1945, mark the day when in modern history Korea finally became independent of any foreign invasion, but a freedom that was not to last for long, since the Korean war was looming around the horizon.
1950 mark the beginning of the Korean war, fueled in the North by the communist of Red China with the full blessings of the Russian Politburo, and in the south by the American army under the leadership of General Douglas MacArthur .
The eventual “Stalemate “ (July 1951 – July 1953)
of this “civil war” brought the brake up of the Korean peninsula and the eventual signing of the Armistice Agreement on 27 July 1953 to end the fighting
Once again I do not have the time to explore the Korean war, but newly declassified Russian, Chinese, and American, files have shade some light on the behind scenes of the Korean war, suffice to say that the Korean war was not fought for the betterment of the Korean people, and let me make that very clear, the Russian's, Chinese, and American did not care about the regular Korean Folk, for them this war was a war of “Power and Control” in which again the Korean people got the short end of the stick.
My dear @SpongeBob.
I feel I have given you some ample historical background, about the relationship with the 3 major Asian nations, and we can see that for whatever reason Korea has been the focal point of people fighting to control its people for the most part of its history'
I have pointed out how they have been invaded time and time again, and have to make difficult alliances in order to survived.
So one can clearly see why Koreans have grown to be very “Nationalistic”, a trait that I do not look “down upon”, I was born in Mexico, but I am an American citizen, and I can assured you that Americans are some of the most Nationalistic people on this planet!
Now concerning dramas and movies, if we take real history into account, when Koreans makes a drama or a movie that deals with the invasion of their country by a foreign nation, it should be expected that they will show some “bias and prejudice towards the invaders”, so than my question to you will be in how will you portray the invasion of your country in a positive light? When the invaders kill score of your people, rape and pillage, and made your sons into slaves and your daughters into less than lower class courtesans.
I can tell you that I do not find the portrayal of the Japanese and Chinese in Korean dramas or movies to be utterly Xenophobe or with ill prejudice, we need to remember that Korea is reaching to make money at the end of the day, so to make dramas or movies who are way out of line, or over the top Racist as you call it will be a financial blunder since other country’s will not buy a product that bashes their own culture.
Last but not the least I have no desire of changing the way you view the world, or your opinion at that, I am just sharing my point of view with out trying to offend no one.
Thank you for clarifying your initial statements!!!
I also like the korean version better. I watched it first, so that might have something to do with it...but I just loved minho! He just nailed that character so well that when I watched the japanese ver, I didn't like the main character as much, or like at all really.
I liked the girl just fine in both, and I actually prefer the japanese rue to hyunjoong's korean ver. The jap. guy was just a better actor. Though hyunjoong is cute, I really didn't see his appeal until playful kiss. I found myself shouting at him to get off the screen in bof, I just hated the character.... but when I watched hana yori dango, I thought the character had more of a draw.
I didn't notice the anti-foreigners thing...but without recaps, sometimes I miss stuff. Or it just didn't catch my attention enough for me to remember.
Japanese version hands down! I watched it first and I couldn't stomach BOF, even though I tried like three times to watch it when it was so crazy popular. I couldn't get past episode 7 or 8. In comparison to Makino and Domyouji, the chemistry was flat, the acting was meh, the soundtrack was obnoxious, and everything was so overexaggerated. Plus I read the manga first, and I didn't like how many liberties the Korean version took from the original.
I think the biggest charm of HYD though, aside from the couple, is Inoue Mao as Makino - she was perfect as the stubborn "weed" that refused to give up, with an optimistic spirit and a willingness to kick the male lead in the pants when he needed it. And she didn't lose all her spirit halfway through either.
From what I saw of BOF, and to be fair I only saw up to the New Caledonia episodes, there wasn't any real chemistry between Jandi and Gunpyo. I mean, even though she was supposedly being won over by him, I just didn't see any affection between them. It seemed very forced, even on the part of supposedly head-over-heels Go Junpyo. I feel like MatsuJun did a much better job of portraying the vulnerablity and the slowly awakening feelings under the asshole exterior, whereas although Lee Minho was way hotter, he was just an asshole who wanted a new toy. (But maybe I would feel differently if I could have have made it to the end. Don't kill me, LMH fans!)
Also loved the extended cast in HYD, especially Hanazawa Rui (*fans self*), Yuki, and the other two F4 members. The friendship between Domyouji and Rui in HYD brought tears to my eyes. I love the airport scene where the F4 comes to see Rui off.
Yeesh, super long, sorry! I always feel like HYD doesn't get enough love (and BOF gets waaay too much). I haven't seen the TW version.
runs from crazed BOF fangirls waving burning pitchforks
OMG Everytime I heard ALMOST PARADISE!!! I wanted to run to the hills. I swear I would stop watching the episode and come back an hour later. And let me say Laica, that I agree with you, that is why I am rewatching HYD Jap. I mean Makino and Domiouyi just made my day, I mean did you see Domiouyi's eyes when he was keeping himself away from Makito thanks to his witch of a mother? He was saying he didn't love her but HIS EYES TOLD OTHERWISE!!!! I mean that is some high caliber acting.
I am listening to this song after so long, and um I think I actually like it?!! It's actually quite catchy! How come I don't hate it like I hated it in the drama?!! *confused*
I so agree! I totally love the Japanese version, and I have friends who don't understand why and prefer the Korean version.
For me, the biggest charm was Matsujun's portrayal of Domyouji. He totally owned that role. He could act slapstick/silly and I would totally buy it-- he made it totally convincing that Domyouji was some parts crazy.
Jerry Yan was too stiff, although I liked the TW version because it had its sweet moments.
Lee Min Ho acts and carries himself well, but I felt the lack of romantic chemistry dampened my like for him.
I disagree with you. Although Domyouji was supposed to be a tough guy, I couldn't buy the act.
Didn't seem like he could hold his own in a 1 on 1 fight much less winning a group fight. He looks so wussy, and yet we're supposed to believe that he can fight like a badass?? Please
thank you for writing this, laica!! i've seen all 3 (even the TW sequel ugh), and i super agree with all your points, especially the love for Inoue Mao. I mean, what she did with the story is how one makes the audience root for the heroine. I just can't stand doormat heroines. Although Makino was constrained by her circumstances and Domyouji's mom, the audience can see that Makino is much tougher and a stronger weed than anybody can believe.
I marathoned HYD1+2 twice, and I still watch parts of it when I feel blue.
Maybe it depends on which version you see first. I saw HYD first then MG1 then HYD again then MG2 then BOF. (At one point, I even had both HYD and MG playing with MG muted so I can enjoy the Nihongo. LOL) I skipped lots of BOF but read recaps here religiously. While I know people who saw BOF first and disliked HYD.
Japanese version:
Makino is waaaay prettier and better played then Jandi
The cinematography is gorgeous
They have season 2 and even a movie
The soundtrack is fantastic and not overplayed (yes I'm talking about you....AAAAAAALmost PAAAAAradise)
Korean version:
The Guys are hotter especially Lee Min Ho! **swoon**
Love the Bromance between the F4
F4 is dressed better
We actually care about the secondary characters
Taiwan version:
Dunno...never seen it cus the guys weren't hot
lol....i have only fully watched the Japanese and Korean versions and I have to admit I think the Japanese one trumps the Korean one in terms of storyline, directing and acting even though I had more fun watching the Korean one because of all the fangirl madness at the time...god I miss those days...it was soooooo absolutely nuts!...i havent actually felt that level of drama madness since YAB....though SKKS came pretty close last year
I definitely preferred the Japanese version--It had the best chemistry between Domyoji and Makino--it was also my first asian drama, which I watched in a half-coerced 9-hr marathon with my friend how wanted to introduce me to japanese dramas. I found the korean BOF a little over done and lacking in chemistry. i thought the Korean guy who was supposed to be Rui was not good looking and a bad actor. So I have never been able to finish BOF--can't get past episode 10. How could you ever forget the hideously ugly Domyoji cookies Makino made? I wanted to bake them myself. Or the sight of Domyoji-san shivering in the rain like a little soaked kitty--100 pounds sopping wet.
I haven't watched the TW version, although I am tempted as I have recently developed a mini-crush on the TW actor, Vic Zhou and am in the midst of watching all his dramas. It would probably hard for me to pass on Meteor Shower--the drama that made him famous in the first place.
I like the Taiwanese version best... but it's recently been pointed out to me that I am not motivated by things like good acting or plot development... I am attracted to pure entertainment value of a show, which may or may not be apparent to anyone else.
I really like the Taiwanese F4, I always have and I figure that I always will. I like Jerry Yan's goober smile, I like Van Ness's ADHD, and to a lesser extent Ken and Vic entertain me with their occasional 'drowning' imitation (the point in a show where an actor looks up with the expression of, 'oh, am i supposed to be acting here?').
I think the Taiwan version is the best in terms of showing Shan Cai (Makino)'s character as strong and resilient even when she's in a bad situation -- I love Barbie Hsu's portrayal. I like the F4 here -- none of them are particularly great actors at this point, but they do a great job of conveying the tone of these guys as lifelong friends and buddies. I especially enjoy the goofy aspect of Jerry Yan's Dao Ming Si, and physically he's a good match for the role. Vic Zhou's Lei is actually my favorite version of Rui with the way he portray's the character's spacy distance (which may just be the actor's lack of experience) and innate charm (totally Zai Zai).
I think the Japanese version is the best in terms of chemistry between Makino and Domyouji -- their version of the romance is the one I love the most. Mao Inoue is a great actress but I feel the script makes her Makino more of a victim than necessary, especially compared to Shan Cai. Matsujun is so wrong physically for Domyouji but he somehow makes it work because his performance is larger-than-life, for lack of better words. It even gets endearing to see little nutcase Domyouji throw himself around. The F4 is all right, but not as fun as the TW version IMO.
I think both the TW and Japanese versions are kind of awful in their second seasons, though. If I'd been a huge fan of either while airing, I would have wanted to throw myself under a bus, especially with the TW version. Yes, let's have our lead fall in with and be with another girl for 15 plus episodes -- our fans are sure to love it! The Japanese season 2 is less annoying, but again, Makino comes off as such a victim -- it's really frustrating as a viewer. However, the Japanese movie final makes up for a lot, with rewarding the viewers with the big happy ending, which I totally loved because I do love this Makino and Domyouji together.
I hated the Korean version and couldn't get past episode 9. There was no chemistry between the two leads, I didn't really even like Jan Di, and it was ALLLLL so over the top. I couldn't see why anyone would fall in love with either one of them, honestly. The only aspect of this version I did enjoy was Yi Jeong and Ga Eul, mostly due to the actors' sizzling chemistry. I wanted to watch a show about them instead!
Although I think the MG I is the best version I totally am in love with the movie final! The emotions which are often lacking in the Japanese series are abundant in the movie final. And it makes me love Damyouji more too.
the japanese version! I remember it was sophomore year of college when I saw Matsumoto Jun strutting around as Doumyoji and was totally upset to see this short, scrawny guy as Doumyoji. I remember saying aloud "how dare they do this!!" Then I watched him act. Blew me away. (and humbled my shallow self) And I also felt that the japanese Makino seemed more like the strong Makino in the manga than the other ones. Barbie and Gu Hye Sun played them a bit too weak.
But to be fair, I only watched part of Meteor Garden and BOF. Meteor Garden has a special place in my heart because of my teen obsession with Jerry Yan and I think it had a slightly better F4 team. BOF's got Lee MinHo.
OMG I have totally wanted to talk about this recently, but I'm not sure why so I'm glad you came up with this question!!
For me, the Japanese version wins HANDS. DOWN.
Hana Yori Dango is just such a growing up story for the characters. And that was truly portrayed in the Japanese version. I watched these characters GROW UP. Inoue Mao's Makino was winning and strong. I could sympathize with her, and we watch her slowly warm up to the crazy Domyouji. Matsujun... this is the performance that made me a half-obsessive Arashi fan (not so much anymore, just because I don't have time to LOL). Yes, he's scrawny, but his performance as Domyouji was just so convincing. And the chemistry between the two leads, wow.
The Japanese version has the entire package. You've got a solid performance from ALL of the actors (there really was no weak link in the cast, everybody was just so winning), the amazing cinematography, the great soundtrack (I can still sing WISH and Love So Sweet, all lyrics memorized), EVERYTHING EVERYTHING EVERYTHING. Omg now I feel like rewatching it because this is one of my all-time favorites. Forever and ever.
The Taiwanese version has a special place in my heart, though. It is THE first Asian drama I have ever watched. Ever. It's endearing in that, but I think it is rather weak compared to the Japanese version. I think it was the wooden performances, upon thinking back, but I probably have things remembered in a rosy color, since at that time I was in my "beginning Asian drama watching" experience..... which led to my current drama obsession..... However, I must say I really liked Barbie Hsu's portrayal of Makino. Again, I get the vibe of a strong, resilient character.
I hated the Korean version. I forever will. The only good thing that came out of it was the discovery of Lee Minho, and Kim Bum and Kim Soeun. That was about it. Goo Hyesun RUINED Makino for me. I watched a full 10 episodes and I probably have high blood pressure from that experience. Why was Jandi so freaking obnoxious? Actually that can be said of the entire drama, minus Kim Hyunjoong, who was pretty much just a stone. Oh, did I mention he also ruined Rui, too? Speaking of which, I loved Oguri Shun's Rui. Swoon-worthy.
I feel like the Korean version lost sight of what Hana Yori Dango was... It tried to go crazy with the huge dramatics and everything. And then it just ended up being so obnoxious. Just like, you know, I can take print-mixing in small (and classy) doses but when your ENTIRE outfit is fifty different prints, it hurts my eyes. And there was no chemistry. And I hated Jandi. She was not "strong and resilient." And Gu Hyesun's performance was just so strained and so obviously forced. I wanted to hit my head on a desk the entire time. Don't even get me started on the HORRIBLE soundtrack. My ears. Bleeding.
I seriously sat through 10 episodes because I still remember this was senior year in high school and I had some friends who had recently discovered Asian dramas and were OBSESSING over it. I... just couldn't get through it. No matter how hard I tried. I tried to recommend the Japanese version, which was BY FAR superior. I couldn't understand what they were seeing? But now I realize they only watched for the eye candy factor, which no longer works for me after watching years and years of Asian dramas. Sometimes not even the eye candy is enticing enough. I can never understand the fandom that came out of BOF. Okay, yes, I still watch for eye candy, but if it's SO BAD sometimes not even the eye candy does it. It's like a super attractive guy...... except he doesn't shower, has horrible taste in clothes, has a whiny obnoxious voice. No matter how greatlooking he is, he is forever off my list.
And probably because I've gotten lots lots more pickier with my dramas....
I saw a girl who was pretty much just annoying and obnoxious. Someone I wouldn't want to be friends with in real life. As opposed to Makino in Hana Yori Dango. I wanted to be friends with that girl.
I know! Makino seems like a LEGIT cool girl I would want to be friends with.
Jandi? Uh, no.
And I have no idea what Goo Joonpyo saw behind that atrocious helmet hair, obnoxious voice..... It was like the same feeling I got when I found out certain people I know of got girlfriends/boyfriends. Total wtf moments.
Personally, if I went to that school, I probably wouldn't care if she was bullied. Because she really is obnoxious. I wouldn't hate on her because she's poor, but because she's just plain annoying and up in everybody's faces. Didn't help that Gu Hyesun's portrayal made it so obvious she was trying to be cute. Key point: TRYING. Ugh it was just so painful.
I have fond memories of Meteor Garden because it was the first Taiwanese drama I watched. The acting was stiff, attributed to that they were all rookies then; but I still have warm, fuzzy feelings when I think about this drama. Most especially because of the f4 chemistry and Barbie Hsu's portrayal. And I used to just laugh/cringe at Jerry Yan's acting-- it was so bad but I just found it funny, not annoying.
With the Korean version, I got so annoyed at Gu Hyesun's portrayal. You're right-- it is so forced and strained. That's why I can't muster any sort of admiration for her at this point. I think she should improve on her acting, but she has instead focused on directing presenting herself as quite the auteur. I do admire her artistic sensibilities, but if she wants to pursue directing instead of acting, I don't think I'll watch her when she DOES act.
*runs away from Gu Hyesun's fans*
So, my favorite is the Japanese version. The scene that killed me (and I still remember vividly) was the scene (in season 2) when Makino ran after Domyouji's sister's car because she had to tell her that she still loves Domyouji and always will. It was, WOW.
Yes the bromance in Meteor Garden!! I loved it! Plus the fact that they made like a boy band out of it totally got me. Yes, I was still in boy band stage at that stage in my life, so it was right up my ally.
THE BROMANCE between all four of them, especially between Rui and Domyouji, is present in the Japanese version. There is a TRUE BROMANCE going on. I totally forgot about this factor too. In the Korean one, didn't really feel it. Granted, I place some of the blame on The Stone aka Kim Hyunjoong. I mean just that one scene (I'm getting my seasons mixed up, but I think it was season 2 or maybe not idek), where Rui and Makino are walking and then Rui leaves and Domyouji comes and Rui bromantically waves them goodbye.... omg THE BROMANCE.
My favorite scene though is in season 1. The elevator scene and him waiting for her in the rain. That was also the point where I totally broke down and started rooting for Domyouji. I also loved how at the end of season 2 (which I have mixed feelings about, there were some really great parts but also lackluster parts that I felt was like me watching filler anime or something) they tie it back, word for word. At this point I was also breaking down in tears, oh so touching...
Gosh I want to rewatch this now. LOL.
I agree. I used to really REALLY like Gu Hyesun because I had liked some of her works prior to BOF. And then I watched BOF and I was like, what the hell was this??! It was like all of her acting ability disappeared or something, like how her long hair before turned into that horrible helmet hair bowl cut. I can't respect her anymore, and while I admire how she tries to pursue her artistic/production/directing abilities, she first needs to polish her acting skills in the first place. Unless, of course, her end goal from the beginning was to do the work she's doing right now and acting was only a means to get there...... *barricading myself from GHS fans*
First loves will always have a special place in our hearts. :)
@ clichique
The elevator scene! One of my favourites. And I broke down in tears at the scene whre he rescues her and then finally regains his memories through the reenactment of that scene. That was so lovely.
I am dying to rewatch this now. We should have a group viewing on OT.
I am so tempted to rewatch this after I finish season 2 of LIar Game.......... which I am like one episode away from. Man, this is so bad, marathoning. Sigh. The disadvantage of watching shows that have already been completed. But when you watch shows airing, you have the uncomfortable weekly wait. What a dilemma.
the jap version have the best story build up for me , the sexy hot matsujun perfect for the role, but the taiwanese version is my first love and dao ming si is the tsukasa i fell in love with , so i have the taiwanese and jap as my first and korean second and 3rd the chinese version
Anyone else watching and enjoying Sparkling/Shining/All that Glitters? Kim Hyun joo is so, so cute in this and I like both families.
My quibbles with the show are mostly about the characterization. The male lead is just the cookie-cutter, run-of-the-mill surly guy. Geum ran, our other main female lead, is kind of a drip. A bitter, mentally unstable drip with a lot of misplaced animosity. She's convinced her circumstances leave her without any choices, but that's not entirely true. There are small moments where I feel awful for her, such as when she talks about not being able to afford college or working at the same bookstore company for years, just to make it from the warehouse to the backroom to the main store to another section of the store. She's meant to be a sympathetic semi-villain, but I'm not sure I feel that sympathetic toward her. Her ex-fiance is beyond vile but he's too cartoonish for me to really hate. What annoys me is the way Geum ran put up with that horrendous, emotionally abusive treatment because this asshole has a bright future ahead of him as a prosecutor. Geum ran's childhood sweetheart/friend Dae bum is written as too nice a guy. He's overwhelmingly passive and comes off as a bit of a doormat. His baby is just ADORABLE, though.
In any case, I've only been talking about the parts I dislike but I've actually been loving the show and Kim Hyun joo's Han Jung won is a really lovable protagonist. The show has dark moments but plenty of light, fluffy fun and laughs.
Thanks for the review, I was wondering whether to watch this because I love the writer's previous shows Who Are You and Really Really Like You, but the length is very daunting.
I am so glad to find someone else who likes Twinkle Twinkle/Shining. I like it so much that I watch it RAW and wonder what in the world they are saying. That baby is way to cute! And those outfits they dress the baby up in, adorable!!!
I find it interesting that Song Seung-joon (male lead) seems to be interested in Hwang Geun-ran (second female lead). Since this is going 50 episodes, I wonder how long that will last. I don't think I can take much of it. But since both their characters are a bit negative, they just might fit.
Also, I just love Kim Hyeon-joo as Han Jeong-won
(female lead) she is absolutely perfect for that role!
One thing that I noticed however, was the marked age difference between the two female leads who are supposed to be born on the same mm/dd/yyyy. They definitely didn't look the same age, along with the Kang Dae-beom (baby daddy) character. So I looked up the actors/actresses ages to confirm.
Kim Hyeon-joo is 1978 (female lead)
Lee Yoo-ri is 1982 (second female lead)
Kim Seok-hoon is 1972 (male lead)
Kang Dong-ho is 1985 (second male lead)
Am I wrong in thinking that three of them are supposed to be 30 years old in the show?
I am here late to this, but I am struggling with TT right now.
I skip most of it, as the conversations are lather rinse repeat. I can't stomach another father in debt trying to ruin his kids' lives storyline.
Except the scenes with Kim Hyeon-joo and Kim Seok-hoon. :)
I want to kill the guy with the braces. Seriously, he's mean and cheap and insulting.
And the Lee Yoo-ri character is such a baby! She does that "eyes get bigger" thing to show emotion.
slow week ain't it, kdrama-wise?
i just picked up cyrano dating agency a few days ago, imma watch it tonight, wheee!
also just downloaded the ost for baker king kim tak goo. it's pretty decent music, esp the instrumentals, lots of string action, good for writing reports.
Watched CDA a couple of weeks ago...still don't know how I feel about it. I liked some aspects of it a lot, but then others just felt like they were a little flat. I guess the best way of putting it is that it's good, but I think it could have been much, much better. Uhm Tae Woong is dishy, though! ;)
urgh don't remind me about no glee and vampire diaries (seriously theyre both getting SO good). and whats more, gossip girl is off for six weeks =[ even harder to wait for considering what happened last ep!(dair fan!)
why are all these good shows ending/ taking a break at the same time?? now im off to watch the last ep of dream high...
Really, Glee is getting good? I sorta gave up on Glee because the storyline was going nowhere, but I still listened to the soundtracks. It was like each episode was becoming just an excuse to make Glee versions of certain songs.
I.... am tempted to start Vampire Diaries. LOL. Mostly because I love Ian Somerhalder. IDK, though. My main reason for NOT starting it was anti-Twilight sentiments, so...........
Dair fan? :( :( Chair fan forever and always although I feel like the writers are just trying to sorta villain-ise Chuck and making him rather unlikeable the past several episodes. But I must say the Dair dynamic is interesting, in lieu of the recent, well, dull-ness. From the spoilers I've seen, Chair comes back at the end of this season (which makes sense considering ratings dropped with the Dair arc, and Chair fans really drive the ratings).
Well, for Glee, I was really far behind so I marathoned it, and it was good from the marathon but Im not sure about waiting for weeks on end. I'm just waiting for the time that puck and rachel will get together, but i doubt thats going to happen anytime soon. i know what you mean about the songs, and apparently theyve reduced to 5 in each ep. I remember one episode in season one called home or something and I hated every song they played through that ep.
And Yes I do recommend the vampire diaries! Admittedly the first episode was boring, but it gets so much better. And I think they only make fun of Twilight once, but as a passing joke, and that was all.
It's a pretty good show with a fast-pacing plot. Characters are likeable and three-dimensional and Ian Somerhalder's rockin' his role ;) (loved him in lost as well). Some good twists as well that you won't expect and an amazinf soundtrack.
oh YES. i just saw this post when i posted upove, hehe. I've been searching all over the net for dair related stuff. although ive always been on team dan (he's my fave) ive always loved the idea of him and blair together ever since his storyline withs serena got boring in s2 and blair's storyline with chuch got boring (i used to be such a massive chair fan).
hopefully dan and blair will end up as endgame, but i doubt that will happen because of all the chair fans. but i still hold hope! this hiatus will be PAINFUL.
Dair is a fun dynamic, but ultimately I don't feel like it'll last.
Chair fan forever. LOL.
But at least Dair is bringing something interesting with the boringness that has been this past... entire... season? Yeah.
I am pretty sure at the end of the season the writers are going to try to pull something of "going full circle." Like in the second episode of this season, that BEAUTIFUL Chair scene (that made me tear up, I joke not) at the train station. They're going to pull something like that again. I hear there's something about Blair getting engaged to the prince or something (pictures of them at the shootings show so). Yeah.
I know what you mean, unfortunately, in that they won't last. But (dair) is the only interesting storyline, apart from Juliet, this season. Really, they shouldn't have taken out Jenny. Or at least given her more airtime. Nate is basically useless without her ( i loved their scenes in s3. I admit I'm a huge jenny fan). I really can't see raina staying with him, or what he sees in her in the first place. And I didn't miss Vanessa at all despite her 5-min appearance.
Yeah, I also heard about the prince thing, but I'm not too sure what they're going to do about that. tbh, I thought the prince was a pretty useless character. If nothing happenes b/n Blair and Chuck I can see Chuck and Serena ending up together at the end of this season...or having a fling out of revenge, lol.
I agree. This season was total bla. Actually last season was total bla, too. Completely forgettable. A lot of people didn't like season 2, but I personally liked season 2 because we get to see a real Chair dynamic... The chemistry between Ed Westwick and Leighton Meester is just amazing. Although I think some people were talking about whether or not you're a real Chair fan or just a Blair fan and now that I think about it, I probably am just a Blair fan....... But I do like Chair a lot. So, hm.
I can't come to like Jenny after a few of the things she did, but I do appreciate that she spices up the story. You know something is wrong with the writing when Nate isn't getting any girls. LOL. Yeah, Nate is really nice to look at, but obviously he is not important, considering the 2 minute appearances he's been making in each episode now. And Vanessa - never liked her from the beginning. The prince has been pretty blah, as well, and I think in the end he'll just become a plot piece to piece together Chair, I feel. Oh well, not that I'm complaining.
^ By far my favorite scene this entire season. This is why I ship Chair............... although there hasn't been any Chair AT ALL lately it's been really frustrating. UGH. Chuck!! WHY?!
@clichique - for some reason the site won't let me reply to your post so I'm putting the reply here ;)
Yeah, I didn't mind season 2 too either. I was still invested in it b/c I still really liked the Dan/Serena and Blair/Chuck pairing. I think, for me, GG started to go downhill during s3, especially around the time when Chuck was selling Blair to Jack over the hotel. Seriously, that was a stupid storyline. I mean, who would do that in real life. And I really hope this arc with Russel Thorpe ends soon, b/c all the storylines that involve chuck and his hotel bore me.
If Dan doesn't end up with Blair this season, then I really want Serena to find out about Blair/Dan and actually put an effort in winning him back. I think most of the time she just uses him and doesn't realise how good Dan is to her (I support Dan/Serena more than Serena/Nate).
I have read the GG books, but quite a long time ago... I vaguely remember though something about Chuck turning out to be gay? The TV show adaptation takes it way farther than the book and totally diverges.. not that I mind, because there were some good things out of the TV adaptation that weren't in the novels, haha
So I have question. Korean culture, or Korean language related. In the drama Temptation of Wife, there's an episode where Goo Eunjae calls her (former) sister-in-law (Jung Soo Bin) "agasshi." Even Shin Aeri calls her that, too. Agasshi means "miss," right? Please do correct me if I'm mistaken. So my question is why agasshi? Why not call her by her complete name?
correct me if I'm wrong but I think it's to be more respectful, all the Oriental asian cultures are not heavy about calling someone by just their full name unless there's a certain level of familiarity or the person being called is younger.
so instead of John Smith, you would say Mr. Smith or something along those lines.
So, I marathoned Paradise Ranch this week and I've watched up to (including) episode 10.
I LOVE IT!
I totally did not expect that. In all honesty, I had no plans to watch Paradise Ranch. Not even just to check out if Changmin would be as good an actor as he is a singer (he's from DBSK, and they are all good singers). And unlike with Dream High, where everyone was raving so much about it, I just had to see for myself, everyone told me Paradise Ranch was bland, and at best okay. However, as My Princess finished last week, and Dream High finished this week, I was wondering what I should see, and some mysterious force drew me to it. Much like with It's Okay Daddy's Girl and Fugitive:Plan B, I don't think many of you will agree with me. As the Spanish saying goes, "de gustos y colores no escribieron los autores" Everyone has different tastes. To describe my reactioon to Paradise Ranch: Dream High was instantly addictive, but It's Okay Daddy's Girl, has a spot in my heart. And Paradise Ranch is sort of warming like that. Changmin looks like a rookie during the first 3 episodes, but he gets into his character later on. I have to agree that rather than the lazy chaebol the character was described as, his character is more like a really nice guy whose pride ges in the way of communication. and that's actually good. Cold heroes have been rather overused lately. And there are some hilarious scenes in the beginnning, but the divorce gets explored more halfway through the drama. The beginning it outward enjoyable, but as it progresses you get invested in the characters more and it becomes more personal, much like Fugitive was initially all flashy and cheesy, but as it went on, you could see the emotion. Anyways, that's my 2 cents on Paradise Ranch. Anyone else like it?
I really like it too. At first I kept watching to find out why the main couple broke up, and then I kept watching for Joo Sang Wook!!! I agree with what you said about getting to know the characters better... I loved that she finally told him some of the reasons why they got divorced in last week's episode.
Since the show seems to be about learning to move on, I secretly want Joo Sang Wook to get the girl, but somehow I don't think that will happen...
but I agree about the moving on message. as it's a drama, obviously they don't throw such a message in your face, but it's done in a subtle way that allows you to connect with the hurt that is a breakup and moving on.
Ahjussi/JSW is the most interesting character. His ex showing up brought in some dramatic weight that I felt had been lacking.
Eps 11/12 broke my heart because they did a great job portraying the misery of being in an impossible relationship but not wanting to let go.
Like @.@, I somehow started pulling for Dong Ju without knowing it in 12.
I really could do without Dong Ju's father's character. He seems to be adding nothing to the story, exept annoying his son. (which the grandfther could easiily have done) and I don't want his ex-wife to forgive him EVER.
I kinda like Paradise Ranch..
But I cant really stand the acting of Changmin and the girl lead (sorry dont her name)..
Thanks to their acting many emotional and/or touching dialogs come to flat.. They dont deliver the feeling..
It a waste of many possibly good scenes..
I wonder what it would be if better actors to play them??
I kept watching only for Jo Sang Wook and to find out who willl be with who, LOL
really? i haven't seen anything lee yeonhee did before, but i think she pulls off her character with enough charm. changmin's acting is awkward during the first few episodes, but i think he manages to sink into it further in. as for jo sang wook, he's a good enough actor. and yoo hana is gorgeous (sigh) and she's good, although her character so far hasn't done anything major...
As a large cheer squad for this show. I can say that yes I like it! I am Changmin bias but I like it just the same. The acting can be off, the directing can be awful, and the writing has weird weak points, but for some odd reason it all works just fine for me and I walk away with a smile on my face after every episode. So to heck with what everyone else says. I'm happy and I like it. MAX TIME forever.
As to the my main selling points. The cute! All the couples and interactions therein are cute. Not only in bits and pieces but full on disturbingly cute. I like cute like this. The first two episodes are not good. and it is as much horrid directing as anything else, after that it gets increasing better.
So far, I'm really enjoying it. Although I've heard some complaints about it being slow in bringing the adult actors in, I really like the younger cast =] And I have to say young dwi dong is so funny! I also like chun doong too, although I find dong nyeo's character a bit boring. I much prefer dal yi, I think she's more likeable? Relatable?.
I wonder, when the adult actors do get brought in, if they will be able to perform to the same standard as the younger cast.
I love Han Ji Hye that's y I watching this drama, but I agree that I prefer Dal yi's character more..
Gwi dong is cute but I feel so sad for Chun doong! just imagine the person you thought is your mom doesn't admit you are her child..It's so cruel to Chun doong.T-T
I hope their friendship will not be broken when they found out the truth later.
who else is watching New Tales of Gisaeng? I'm finding that I like it although I'm worried about being able to endure through 50 episodes. I'm more of a marathoner...
I'm the same! I'm actually liking it right now, but I'm so impatient :/
Even though I think it has a really great storyline developing, I feel the way its edited seems a bit disconnected, doesn't it?
They flash back and forth between people so randomly, and at times, it's just to watch them put away something, or something without an dialogue...
oh well... I still like it :)
Yeah, I don't think the editing is that great. However, all other elements seem to work for me. People say the 2 actors playing SaRan and DaMo are so wooden, but I feel like the characters are just restrained. Maybe it's the eyes, their eyes are not the most expressive of kdramaland.
Anyway, how do you like the fantasy sequences? I heard those are the writer's trademarks. I especially like the ones regarding SaRan and DaMo. I feel their relationship is so real, and can happen to real non-chaebol people. o_O
I can understand why they come off a bit wooden, but I think their little thinking to themselves moments totally makes up for it.... I love how realistic their relationship is and how the characters are so upfront about the fact that they're attracted to each other so early in the game, I know it just means more drama later, but for now, I'm happy :)
The fantasy sequences KILL me... I'd be so ecstatic one moment, just to be so crushed a minute later!
agree. that kiss killed me too. i squealed with joy and i was crushed the next. haha.
i like that DaMo pursued her and did not leave her by the roadside. DaMo, I think is a sweetheart, even if he has a love-hate relationship with Andreyyy. hehe
Man... I thought it was only me. I'm totally at a lost with kdramas until '49 days' is broadcast... only 'sign' is keeping me sane these days!
Have been going through a major Song Seung-hun withdrawal since 'My princess' which means I've been backpedalling to catch up on dramas with him in that I missed. Currently in the midst of 'East of Eden' *drool* but very meh on the whole plot. (But not as mind blowingly awful as 'Summer Scent' was when I earlier this week).
I feel the same way. I'd been keeping busy with kpop though until a good new drama comes on (I'm hoping 49 days is good, I like that concept). I've been watching different variety shows... I just watched running man for the first time the other day, SO funny.
But yea I miss good kdrama. I have a list of shows I need to watch but for some reason I just can't get into it. I started paradise ranch and coffee house, but I can't get past the first few eps. I'm about halfway through Runaway. I should get back on these.
Secret Garden lovers ALERT!
and if any of you are Big Bang fans (like me), well then double treat!
Big Bang is a kpop group that debuted back in 2007. Members in age order are: TOP, G-Dragon (leader), Taeyang, Daesung, and Seungri. They've been MIA from the Korean scene, as they've been busy releasing actual Japanese albums and singles in Japan, a-la- TVXQ (unlike the recycled translated tracks most kpop artists are releasing in japan nowadays) Also they've been promoting in Korea as solos and doing dramas and movies, so yeah... Anyways, they made their comeback last week. Every yea they have a huge concert called Big Show. They always parody a drama, and I am always highly impressed, because their parodies are good quality, make sens,e and are actually funny. Past parodies are Coffee Prince, Beethoven's Virus, and Boys Over Flowers, and you cna find thhem on youtube with subs. Anyhow, this year they parodied SECRET GARDEN!!!! And SBS had a special on them, and they aired the parody as well. So, here's the link, and the video is HD with english subs. It's not my vid or subs, by the way, I'm simply sharing something with everyone. Warning! This is a hilarious video, hardcore, so be prepared. Here you go:
they've faked their kisses in previous parodies (as in, it looks like a kiss, but it's just the angle)
but i was totally NOT expecting them to do it for real this time- especially not so many times. seungri makes a hilarious permed oska, and daesung made a truly funny eomoni. lol at the fact that g-dragon had to dress in all those women styles ...
Saw it a few days ago on Soompi, and I had a ball of laughs. Nicely put together. I like the BB member playing dual roles, the secretary and the mother. ROFL!
Anyone out there listening to Super Junior-M's new releases. I can't wait to see them on their PR tour for "太完美 /Too Perfect."
I dunno, it seems THIS TIME Siwon lost some charisma while Zhou Mi is packing in heat in both KOR and TW versions. Maybe I miss Siwon's Superman-esque features in "Super Girl" much more, or else this new MV can do good losing some road kill accessories. What a turn off! I quite like both versions, especially when the KOR version rewrites a verse using "oh my lady..." that fits perfect when Siwon sings it reminiscing his Oh My Lady days. (cue spa scene: Siwon's half nekkid choco abs)
I noticed in the video that Siwon is only in it for his singing parts and when they form the semi-circle. Look closely, there are eight men for this SJ-M, but for most of the video there are only seven dancing.
I prefer the flow of the Mandarin vs. the Korean for the lyrics of the song.
oh dear! J, you are lucky Brookeve isn't around today, otherwise you would have had to make a run for the airport to book the nearest flight to Antarctica.... daydreaming about TOP....*shakes head* :P
Dream High might be over, but my personal Pil Suk challenge is still going strong! No changes on the scale this week, but my clothes fit so much better. WooT!
I know a few of you out there were also doing it. Hope you're still doing great! Fighting :D
Down a couple more pounds this week, and my arms have definitely gotten more toned! Also haven't eaten any sugar in nearly three weeks now. Woohoo! Keep up the good work, everybody...we can do this!! :D
That is sooooo true...after I go off sugar, even fruits taste incredibly sweet! I'm actually enjoying spacing out my sugar indulgence, because i enjoy it so much more when I eat it!
What is the 'Pilsook Diet' may I ask? I mean, I know it's the diet that Pilsook went through on DH, but how/what are the details like? Would you mind sharing it with me? Thanks!!
I'm also currently eating way too much junk. Being overseas and away from home food gives me lots (and I mean LOTS) of cravings and I satisfy those cravings by eating chips and cookies and marshmallows. And the consequence of that is my very own Jelly Belly. I need to start eating right and exercising stat!
I am pretty much in the same situation as you... overseas and away from home, and started developing cravings for junk food. My parents never kept/keep snacks around the house. There is nothing really special about my diet, only that I focus on eating less carbs. Carbs= my downfall... I LOVE bread & pasta and pizza so much!!!!
Anyway, I changed my diet, and added with regular exercise. I just signed up for a 5K for the first time in years, I hope I don't die. LOL
It sounds cheesy, but I am working on a lifestyle change, which at this point is the only I will 1) loose weight 2) keep it off.
Hi everyone! Hope you're having a great Friday :) It seems that Kimi Wa Petto is finally getting underway, which is great, though I'm not as geeked about it as I was before. Maybe because Jang Geun Seok has been replaced by Kim Soo Hyun in my affections? Man, I didn't realize I was THAT fickle, lol
On a related note, the realization that there are so many great Korean actors my age just makes the disappointment from MSOAN hurt even more... it could have been fantastic.
Jang Geun Suk is a taller (182cm=6ft) than Kim Ha Neul (167cm-5'6") the female lead. Apparently, the Momo character should be shorter according to the manga. I saw a picture of them together today.
i find my princess filled with the best eye candy possible. the two main characters are just gorgeous, but i have to say i'm slightly disappointed at the guy's acting. i feel like he never does enough. on the other hand, the princess is adorable. kim tae hee did a great job drawing out her role.
hello everyone! Finally exam week is over!
but it sucks because I screw up my Additional Mathematics and Biology papers....... Oh well omma is gonna kill me, Imma dead meat.
Hmph, how I wish my school life is half as awesome as Dream High.
This week has been crazy...my work has gotten at least 50% busier than it was a couple of weeks ago, and I'm scrambling to keep up. Add to that the fact that I've been editing papers for Korean exchange students nearly every evening, and you end up with one very tired me...
Definitely going to start watching Bottom of the 9th With 2 Out next, as the summary recap sounded appealing. Hopefully it will fill the gap until 49 Days comes out!
Am also considering moving to Dallas to pursue TESOL graduate certificate and Korean language studies...hopefully I'll figure out soon whether or not that's the direction I need to go with my life! :D
Anyway...hope you all had a great week! Anyone have any fun weekend plans??
Somebody better do a CF with them both maybe with an MP-esque set-up: to cash in on their recent team-up's popularity and to tide over the fans who cant help but lurk in YT for any and all vids about and of them... :-)
Sunny Happiness is my new crack drama!!! it is because of a certain unni we love. It has caused me sleepless nights and working with panda eyes!!!
It is such a surprise to see Mike He aging so well. HE looks HOT HOT HOT HOT!! and of course to see one breakout Hottie... Li Yi Feng, who is now the current obsession between my friends. But take not.. Ockoala already had the dibs on him! ^^
I'll be watching the last 4 eps today! I promise! Darn errands!!
Hey.. no spoilers! Yes I'm talking about my fellow SH crack dealers and addicts.. mookie, Kender, endodo.. ;)
that's the problem when all the episodes are all uploaded and ready to watch, you cant help but marathon-watch. result: panda eyes LOL! :-)
the problem when its being aired while you are watching it is: panda paws LOL! (swollen fingers because of endless refreshing of DB recap and re-watching raw several times til its subbed) ;-)
this had been the most unexciting week for me..... no drama to follow and perk my senses! nothing to keep my earthly body alive,,,,waaah!
i so miss My Princess and Dream High....I just watched the DH special and have to rewatch the whole series over again...i can't get enough plus no new light dramas around.
thinking of migrating to tdrama or jdrama for the meantime...
in a while i will be starting on the subs of thorn bird, maybe this one will be good...lemmesee...
Like some of you, I can't seem to start up any new releases, so I went ahead and shuffled my past collection and start my Kamisama, Mou Sukoshi Dake [aka Gold, Please Give Me More Time] marathon. I still cry when it plays. I hate-love Takeshi Kaneshiro for his awesome hair in that series. Be still my heart.
Currently watching Queen of Reversals after reading girlfriday's review, and unexpectedly loving it! It's both hilarious and heartwarming. Park Shi Hoo is gold. Especially in the scenes with his secretary - they kill me!
Going through a really hard time with my health, so kdramas are keeping me going. They're my painkiller :)
sorry to "hear" you are still not feeling too well (you mentioned that back in January, I believe). Park Shi Hoo should definitely do the trick. Queen of Reversals really is a gem!
Hope you feel better very soon!
I haven't kept up with schedules lately, but has 49 Days started already? That's pretty much the only upcoming series I have an interest in at this point...
Just got back after watching the alst episode of Dream High. I read the recaps already, but I kept putting off actually watching it...so sad it's over. It was definetely a great drama!
i agree that at first, the plot does seem cliche'd but the acting is really awesome. the children actors/actresses are so compelling and there's something very "peter pan-ish" about the drama. i'm probably not doing a very good job at selling this but i'd give it a shot if you want something less sugary! i must confess though that you've got to give it till at least epi 2. if you end up watching it, let me know how you like it =)
Sounds like I'll be downloading The Duo when I get home. :D haha. I'll take your word for it and give it a shot, and I'll let you know how it works out. I've been watching a lot of sugary rom-coms anyway, a little less of that won't be so bad. :D
I heard Lee Min Ho is going to be in Thorn Birds.... Maybe make a Cameo appearance?
Anyone know anything about this?
Has anyone been watching Thorn Birds? Is it good so far?
Please Let me know. Thank you.
no clue about a cameo...i know lee minho has lready signed to do the drama city hunter. as for thornbirds, it didn't interest me, so i won't be watching i, but i read the ratings weren't so good...but don't let me discourage you! i have loved dramas others didn't like, so....
Happy Friday everyone. I've been sitting for the last hour in the doctor's office waiting....waiting....and waiting some more. I thought boredom would eat me alive but then I remembered DB. I think after reading all the posts about Queen of Reversals, I'll have to give it a try. I just finished downloading Jumong and Kingdom of the Winds and before I marathon the hell out of them, I guess I should marathon a ligh comedy like QR. :D
On another note, I watched the first episode of Midas last night and I loved it. I'm eager for the subs to come out for eps 2 and 3. ^_^
Since my crack drama is over I have been watchin strong heart n I find it very interestin n funny anyone know where I can watch this with english subs youtube has a couple of subbed clips but am hungry for more
Happy Friday everyone!...I never thought this day would come but it has....I currently have no ongoing dramas to watch and have NO interest in any of the ones that just began.....Though I am watching some old ones and just started Sunny Happiness last night since I'm only 2 eps in and I cant say that I'm addicted or anything though I can see why it can get there soon enough...How is everyone finding the new dramas that aired this week?...namely Royal Family, Midas (I know it started lat week) and Thorn Birds?...anything worth checking out?....I am totallly psyched for 49 days too and am also looking forward to seeing Crime Squad next week.....maybe in the meantime I should get some of the work that I have been keeping off done...I have whole lot of crap to do and can only think about dramas...I wonder if I have gotten past a stage I watch drams for fun or if dramas have become some sort of escape mechanism in my life...food for thought I guess...Anyways have a fun weekend everyone...I should really get sum work done..or maybe marathon all of SH...lol
also who else was totally psyched when Jin Yi Han took over Jun Tae Soo's role in All My Love....I was debating about dropping it because minus the JTS-YSA loveline the drama would loose a lot of its cuteness to me.....but now I'm even more excited than the initial casting of JTS cuz Jin Yi Han totally beats him acting wise and I have been a fan of his longer....lol....though it is going to be pretty wierd seeing him called "Jun Tae Soo"
Spent the last week watching Gourmet for Kim Rae Won.
Overall, I would say satisfying. The series was consistently good, meaning there was none of the end boredom creep that made me want to rush through.
It was strange to go read the recaps from 2008 because for some episodes there were less than 20 comments. So different from recent DB history!
Actually, I wished it had more episodes because I liked hanging out with the characters. There was some conflict - resolution patterns showing up, but it left you guessing how issues would be resolved.
I could see how US TV would take the OTP and have them travel about meeting new people, making new recipes, solving their new friend's problems, then moving on. Kinduv like a food version of Quantum Leap.
Just started Say You Love Me because I am going to watch all of KRW's shows. Not sure I'm going to like the female leads, though.
Attic cat is superb. WPAF is also good but there's something about it which I can't quite figure which holds me back from completely falling for it.
@ Jomo:
You know how much I love Kim Rae Won don't you but even that couldn't make me finish Say You Love me. I never fast forward. Never! Not even when I hate the series. But in the hope to find something to redeem it - it's my man's drama after all- I went to the last episode, and found it not to my liking. I hate the soryline! Wonder whether it's possible to hate something so much when you don't even finish it. But strangely that's how I feel about Say You Love Me. I had such a huge expectation and it dissappointed me big time. It's the most hated drama for me. Sad because my love is the lead.
Agree that Attic Cat is a good watch.
The leads are not beautiful, but endearing.
They are also full of faults and make mistakes.
Supporting cast is good, too.
KRW is compelling when he cannot say what/how he feels. You really experience his pain along with him.
I started this one with no expectations because of DB ratings page and flew through it.
WSAYF -- loved KRW, of course, but I also loved the lead female character for her willingness not to give up what was important to her.
Speaking of Kim Rae Won, the statistician in me would like to let you know my latest figures.
KRW entered into military service on 8/13/2009 according to Dramabeans.com. If I have done my math correctly, he must serve in the Korean military for 20 months. If that is the case, he should be getting out next month, right? April 2011 would be 20 months from August 2009.
*marking the day in my com's calendar with a bold italic and underlined pink sentence* Found a new wonderful bestfriend: MJP
*proceed to decorate the page with lots of pink hearts while contemplating about the many secrets to be shared with her*
Perhaps I should start re-try watching gourmet again. I gave up in the first five minutes of the first episode...which is a shame, because I like all the cast. Is it worth it?
HUGS Thundie! We are all praying for you and Mr. T. Thanks for being part of our lives. Tell Mr. T that we are all doing a group shout out of Aja Aja Fighting!!!!
At the edge of the world, where the sea meets the sky, where fear meets love, the soul stands on that cusp on tippy toe, teetering and swaying to the waves and the wind, to the negative and the positive: and there we all are, sending love, prayers, good thoughts, words, wisdom, and hugs, surrounding you with the compassion and courage to embrace whatever awaits on the other side of the edge. Go with God.
My heart is heavy for the difficult times you are all facing right now. I have prayed for you all today and will continue to pray on a daily basis. Please know that you are not alone, we are all here with you to encourage, uplift, laugh and cry with you all.
We are sending you loads of love and a speedy recovery...
I love QOR esp Mr hottie PSH.
I would recommend High Kick Thru the Roof - for laughter and fun, just skip the last episode and you will be fine.
Why, oh, why did I start watching GIANT? Don't get me wrong, it is very good. I was only going to watch a few episodes, to get an idea of what the show was like, but I can't stop watching! HA! Every time I think of skipping an episode, the ending just makes me want to watch the next episode.
I don't usually like dramas that revolve around vengeance, but this one is excellent in so many ways. The acting, the directing, the storylines (the side stories are almost as interesting as the main plot)...and let's not forget Joo Sang Wook! Omo!
Anyone else caught in the GIANT spell?
His performance gave me tingles in giant. kim soo hyun is just complete and utter perfection. Looks, singing and acting ability? *fans self*. I reaally hope he appears in another drama soon so I can stare at him on my computer screen. he was my main motivation for watching dream high.
I don't understand what the Stations' deal is with What's Up. It has Big Bang's Daesung in it. They're doing their comeback. It should be hot property right?
Instead they're playing hot cakes with it -.-
I want my New Crack! *whines*
YAY for Paradise Ranch! I've now seen until epsiode 12. I can't wait for Monday!!! Now that the couple's past has been explored and feelings are being discovered, I'm totally into it!!!!
I am going to watch it sometime this evening. Right now I am too captivated by GIANT, which I started watching after seeing Joo Sang Wook in Paradise Ranch :D
anybody tried streaming dramas using skyfire for iPad? how is it working for you?
i've been using skyfire for iPod Touch, but i'm having issues with dramafever.
do you think the coming blackberry playbook has potential for streaming?
all i really want is a mobile device where i can watch dramas wherever i want, be it on the bus, at home etc. i'm sure others want this too, but i don't know what devices they use.
With or without subs? Without subs I'd say use one of the Chinese servers straight on the internet. I'm rather fond of 1qdisk, but YMMV since I use an Android, not an iPad at the moment. With subs, well personally I'd download and use VLC player for iPad.
Start watching Daemul since Dream High is over.. so sad.. I am in ep3.. though acting is good.. find it quite serious... have someone watch it... and is it worth it to continue?
I watched the whole drama.My advice would be find something else more interesting to watch. The plot is weak in parts . Overall it was quite boring. If you like politics and revenge, Giant is a welldone drama.
I agree with Birdie. I couldn't even finish Daemul (I think I stopped around episode 10/12. I thought the characters were hard to relate to and I thought the actors overemoted in their acting. Sometimes it went too over the top as well. I second in giving Giant a try.
I did. And I love it. If only our politicians are like her. If only our President is like her.
Yes it's pretty heavy on politics but it's worth it. Unless your taste run toward the more light dramas.
I have serious Dream High hangover....SAM DONG!!!!!!!
Ive been addicted to the OST! Need something new to get hooked onto. I wanna watch something thats fully aired....*gonna go check JB's n GF's dramaratings*
Thanks for all ur recaps...you guys are the best. And the Podcasts....theyre like one of the many drama-discussing-conversations i have with my sister....SO MUCH FUN! =P...love you guys!
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1 hookedonmonix
March 4, 2011 at 6:51 AM
I guess I picked a good time to wander over here.
I'm feeling a little lost at sea right now, with My Princess and Dream High ended. What to watch?! I'm watching Paradise ranch every now and then, but pretty much only when I'm waiting for something else to get posted. And I'm watching Once Upon A Time in Saeng Cho Ri, but that's only once a week. Maybe I need to dig in the archives and watch something that I've overlooked a hundred times before. Or rewatch something. Or reintroduce myself to netflix. sigh. come back my cheesy fluff shows, please.
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samgetang
March 4, 2011 at 7:54 AM
you might like tdrama "Sunny Happiness" at kimchidrama.blogspot.com :-)
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Kender
March 4, 2011 at 7:59 AM
I see ockoala's raving has gotten to you too. XD
Sunny Happiness is such good crack. ♥
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samgetang
March 4, 2011 at 8:06 AM
saw it before i read ockoala's raves...the title got me when i was down from missing MP haha!
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malia
March 4, 2011 at 8:32 AM
If we've diverged into Tdrama territory, I've just finished watching Autumn's Concerto which I found really really good :)
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Silka
March 4, 2011 at 8:47 AM
Autumn's Concerto is totally awesome!
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amberscube
March 4, 2011 at 8:47 AM
I did watch episodes 1-3 but didnt continue. I opted reading Koala's recap for now.
French kiss in the very first minute in the first episode? Only in Taiwanese drama!
Was there ever a french kiss in a Korean drama?
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amberscube
March 4, 2011 at 8:48 AM
Im talking about Sunny Happiness here.
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hookedonmonix
March 4, 2011 at 12:33 PM
which is the reason why I can't take T-dramas out of my view list. The kissing fills in for some of the lackluster or nonexistent ones in K-drama.
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jomo143
March 4, 2011 at 8:47 AM
What is the draw?
Do the leads have good chem, please?
I'm jonesing for some chem!
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samgetang
March 4, 2011 at 8:54 AM
rom com fun, yes...good chem, yes...eye candy, yes...good flow of story, yes...nice ending, too... :-)
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samgetang
March 4, 2011 at 8:58 AM
same feel, flow and wacky as Fated to Love You...if you dig this, you might like Sunny Happiness, Jomo :-)
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jomo143
March 4, 2011 at 3:16 PM
Just watched Ep 1.
I do like the Mike He guy.
Maybe this will fill the MP emptiness for pretty and fun.
But I have to say I am so used to hearing Korean that I am listening with Korean ears, and it's very confusing to my brain!
samgetang
March 5, 2011 at 3:42 AM
Since I tried learning Mandarin a year ago, Id say it helped me recall some of the words from this tdrama :-) xie xie ;-) But, yes, it takes a while to get used to it after listening to Korean for most of the dramas we've been watching for sometime now. :-) Makes me wonder why i dont get to learn Korean faster, hehe...
lessaofpern
March 4, 2011 at 9:40 AM
Mike He, Need we say ant more? :D
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lessaofpern
March 4, 2011 at 9:41 AM
ANY :P
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samgetang
March 4, 2011 at 9:58 AM
i know! :-)
rose
March 4, 2011 at 5:18 PM
yeah mike he ....... shhhhhhh
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hookedonmonix
March 4, 2011 at 12:32 PM
Ooh, I had been interested in Mike...I mean, that show, before it aired. Thanks for the reminder!
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MJP
March 4, 2011 at 7:14 PM
I watched it after all the raves given to it. It was really good and light. It reminded me a lot of Fated to Love You.
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mizweng
March 4, 2011 at 7:35 PM
hmmm seen sunny happiness already...as usual Mike He was awesome in that drama... his brilliance is the only reason I watched... Unfortunately, I do not like the female lead... I find her acting yucky...sorry...
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annie
March 4, 2011 at 8:04 AM
I had zero interest in watching Queen of Reversals, but I picked it up after reading girfriday's review and I am so loving it! The first 4-5 episodes were kind of slow although I guess necessary for setup, but it starts to get really good around episode 7. There's lots of comedy to balance the divorce/breaking up angst, the dialogue and plot is well-written, and the main character is flawed but kickass. I love how she is not a typical Candy, but instead very smart, confident, and a little arrogant and tactless at times, although she has a soft side too. The workplace politics are well done, and so is the anatomy-of-a-breakup, and the way a couple slowly becomes like strangers, at least on the outside. And Park Shi Hoo! I never watched anything with him before, but I love him here. Add his secretary and it's pure win!
Anyway, I didn't mean to make this so long, but if you haven't watched it I recommend it!
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hookedonmonix
March 4, 2011 at 12:11 PM
I did watch it, and loved it!
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annie
March 4, 2011 at 12:18 PM
Oh, never mind then. ;) Good luck in your drama search!
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MJP
March 4, 2011 at 7:17 PM
I didn't think your comment was "long". This is the OT. Comment away to your hearts content. I love reading everyone's comments! :-)
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mrskimchee
March 5, 2011 at 1:16 AM
ditto!! I'm watching the last episode tonight!! save it for the best :)
I've downloaded Family's Honor.....all just bcs of Parck Shi Hoo..♥
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Janet
March 18, 2011 at 7:44 AM
Can I just start at Episode 7 for QR? Will that work?
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Timloo
March 4, 2011 at 10:24 AM
Well, you can always watch New Tales of Gisaeng, not much of a plot (very makjang) but awesome eye-candy ! I'm all for the puuuuurty =)
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gailt
March 4, 2011 at 12:21 PM
I don't think it's gotten to makjang yet. For some reason even if it has makjang elements, I get a slow and leisurely vibe to it. JooHee (RaRa's "mom") scares the crap out of me, though. She's like "perfect" on the outside but is so scheming. I love the grandparents.
Actually, I like the characters. For some reason, they seem real to me.
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MJP
March 4, 2011 at 7:19 PM
So, is this a modern or historical setting. Also, please explain what makjang means. Thank you in advance!
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Stacey Lim
March 7, 2011 at 8:31 AM
I feel the same. I no longer have a reason to look forward to mondays and tuesdays. blah.
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2 Haru
March 4, 2011 at 6:55 AM
Anyone here watches Skins? UK version ;(
Season 5 is sweet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Also i need a new Kdrama to watch D:
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Lahlita
March 4, 2011 at 8:14 AM
I'm quite liking season 5 of Skins UK. I've only watched the first four episodes though; I'm watching "Nic" and "Alo" tonight. There's a nice YouTube user who is posting all of the episodes the day they air, which is glorious for US people like me, 'cause then I can stream through my streaming box to my TV.
So far my favorite episode of season 5 is "Mini." She's a bitch of righteous proportions, but her episode was a gorgeous deconstruction of an adolescent queen bee. It was written by Georgia Lester who also wrote season 3's "Pandora" and season 4's "Katie." Georgia is by far the best writer on the Skins UK team.
To any US people who have Netflix, Skins UK seasons 1-3 are on Instant Watch (season 4 is out on DVD), and it's an absolutely fantastic show. Although season 4 is a bit fucked, to be honest. Just bear in mind that the cast members change out every two years, so don't go bent when Tony, Chris and Cassie are suddenly gone in season 3. Also, it's an intense show, full of drugs, sex, profanity, and teenagers in seriously fucked up familial situations. Most of the writers for the show are in their teens and early twenties, so there's a lot of truth in it. It's funny and heartbreaking, but it might not be for everyone.
@SLH (Santa's little helper) Have you been watching Misfits, also on E4? That show is absolutely hilarious, with incredibly tight writing and plotting, and brilliant characterization. I think it's even better than Skins, to be honest. Misfits is one of the best shows I have ever watched, and Nathan is a laugh and a half! There is also a lovely YouTuber who has been posting full episodes, so I rewatched the first two seasons last weekend. Excellent!
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malia
March 4, 2011 at 8:35 AM
Misfits is awesome!! Nathan is hilarious :D
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Lahlita
March 4, 2011 at 8:45 AM
Malia, Nathan is far and away my favorite character! Well, no, actually, he and Simon are tied for favorite, but Simon tugs on my heartstrings while Nathan makes me laugh until I choke. Choke, I tell you!
Here are Robert (Nathan) and Iwan (Simon) in a little interview snippet, joking that Iwan only speaks Welsh. I love how Iwan goes along with Robert's craziness.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSLMZEkF5W8
Warning: Some Profanity!
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malia
March 4, 2011 at 9:28 AM
Thanks for sharing Lahlita! I love behind-the-scenes clips. It seems as if this cast are as funny in real life as they are on-screen :))
And totally agree with you about Simon. He's just sooo cute and awkward <3
(And thanks for the warning. There are young ears around that shouldn't be hearing certain things!)
HikkiZ
March 4, 2011 at 2:04 PM
Another vote for Misfits. Probably the funniest show I watched last year, but also with amazing writing and acting too. Some of the cinematography is a bit too stylised for its own good but it's a small fault in an overall great show.
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hookedonmonix
March 4, 2011 at 12:16 PM
I tried watching Skins, but it was a bit much for me to handle. And it honestly wasn't even the drugs and sex, it was the coldheartedness of that one guy (Tony?) that made my skin crawl.
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Lahlita
March 4, 2011 at 12:21 PM
Yeah, season 1 Tony was an utter twat, a complete asshole tool. Props to Nicholas Hoult for making him such a convincing megalomaniac. If Skins isn't your cup of tea, definitely don't force it. But, for what it's worth, Tony gets his karmic retribution in a big (HUGE) way at the end of season 1, and season 2 deals about him finding his way back to normalcy and functionality after this huge, life-altering event (it's insane, trust me). It's worth it if you hate Tony. Or if you find him fascinating like I do. God, he's such a c*nt. :-)
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hookedonmonix
March 4, 2011 at 12:35 PM
I think I tried to skip forward, and then got distracted by Torchwood.
Lahlita
March 4, 2011 at 12:43 PM
Oooh, Torchwood is in my queue. Is it good? I love British TV. Erm, I'm assuming that Torchwood is British. If it's not, silly me.
hookedonmonix
March 4, 2011 at 2:04 PM
I really liked it. It's a Dr. Who spinoff. Very intense, if I remember correctly. It was exactly the right thing for my sci-fi marathon, and my love of any and all British accents.
Haru
March 4, 2011 at 5:54 PM
OMG :O
Yes I own season 1&2 boxset of Misfits :)
Watched it when it first came out xD
I LOVE LOVE LOVE Simon & Nathan!!! Best characters ever!
Though everyone is saying that Nathan won't be back in season 3 & that is very upsetting D:
E4 has brilliant shows :) I love British TV! I watch a lot of costume/period drama's and shows also :3
You should look up Miranda & Phoneshop if you haven't seen them yet ;( Oh and also The IT Crowd :D
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Lahlita
March 4, 2011 at 6:30 PM
Oh my word, I LOVE The IT Crowd! I just finished season 4 and it absolutely killed me. I want to marry Moss. But my all-time favorite moment of the show is from season 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab8GtuPdrUQ
Every single time my husband says "Oh" I start singing the emergency number. It drives him insane. Haha, I'm such a bad woman. Moss making out hardcore with Roy to evade the police in season 3 is another epic moment. Ah lurves eet!
Also, where did you hear that Robert Sheehan won't be back for Misfits season 3??? THAT CAN'T HAPPEN! Seriously, give me linkies so I can read and start to worry. But honestly, I highly doubt that will come to pass. Robert Sheehan is amazing, and they will do whatever it takes to keep him on board. Nathan is such a hilarious, excellent character (and so profane, oh my God). I want more behind the scenes interviews with Robert and Iwan saying, "I wanna piss on your tits." HAHAHA. :D They had better keep him on, or you will have to make sure that Santa doesn't give E4 any presents this year!
Lastly, thanks for the recommendations! I'll search them out. I grew up on British television and I love it. That sharp, dry humor totally turns me on, yo. I also enjoyed/am enjoying Shameless, My Family, Coupling etc. Coupling is worth it just for episode 1.04 "Inferno" with Steve's "Lesbian Spank Inferno" rant. Have you seen Coupling?
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Haru
March 4, 2011 at 8:14 PM
OMG Coupling!!!! xD
"Yes thank you for bringing that up Lahlita, god knows it might have slipped by unnoticed." :p
British TV is just WIN!!!
I love Moss xD
The Rob news i heard from god knows where ;A; But it had to do with him doing a film project ~ and so apparently the director of that film said something on his Twitter about Rob not being able to do Misfits ;(
I hope its all BS :(
BTW you are the coolest chick EVER!!! :3
If you haven't been on this site before I totally recommend it! It will feed all your BritTV needs & MORE!
http://www.thebox.bz/
If you can't torrent & find something you really want, you can ask me & i'll get it for you ;)
Lahlita
March 4, 2011 at 9:39 PM
Shit, YOU might be the coolest chick ever. And here I was thinking that between Javabeans, Girlfriday and Brookeeve, I was all stocked up with cool. You, Crimsonskyx, are BAD. ASS! Thank you so much for the site, lady! I'll be sure to check it out. If I ever need more BritTV fixes, I'll be sure to drop you a line. Thanks to your livejournal URL I know how to find you.
“Yes thank you for bringing that up Lahlita, god knows it might have slipped by unnoticed.”
No problem. *grins like Patrick* :D
See ... as a spur to future excellence amongst the Dramabeans collective, I've decided that the losers -- the ones who like the worst media -- better have a bit of a spanking.
Oh, and I just finished watching "Nick" (Skins UK ep 5.05). I. Loved. It. I actually watched it through twice, the only episode beside "Mini" which I've watched twice in this season. There were a few moments in which the writing was a bit cliche or overwrought, but overall it was a beautiful, emotional episode. And, DAMN, Sean Teale can act! I was with him the entire time. He's so expressive and raw. And I love how much the camera loves him; oftentimes we were zoomed in so closely that it was almost overwhelming. He brought it. After watching "Nick" twice, I'm exhausted so I'll just watch "Alo" tomorrow.
I repeat: You, Crimsonskyx, are AWESOME. :-)
3 @.@
March 4, 2011 at 6:56 AM
Hello everyone!!!!
Hello my friends:
asianromance
lessaofpern
dom
Viola
fanny
Autumn
diadda
brookeeve
Endroine
Faith
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lessaofpern
March 4, 2011 at 9:10 AM
HUGS!!!! Hi Dear!!!!!
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diadda
March 4, 2011 at 10:02 AM
Hi howdy back and stuff :)
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brookeeve
March 4, 2011 at 10:49 AM
What it do? and hi!
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Viola
March 4, 2011 at 11:01 AM
Hi! Hugs! :)
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ar_arguably romantic
March 4, 2011 at 1:33 PM
hello there!!! =DDD
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4 absothe
March 4, 2011 at 6:57 AM
I just read a newsarticle that shocked me soo much! Bea yoon bae is to we Lee na Young? ok true it was a false rumor, but the shocking part is when I saw how old BYB was. Cause I thought he was really old, that's why I did'nt think it was true anyway, but it turns out BYB is not 50 but 38 :o. I feel so silly now, why did I think he was so old in the first place? Because of his seemingly perfect skin? I mean it looked so perfect, I thought it was fake. Anyhow just wanted to share my shocking discovery *goes into witness protection programm* (japenese ajuhmma's, you can't find me now:p)
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absothe
March 4, 2011 at 6:59 AM
@#$% I typed to fast, I meant wed. Bea Yoon Bae is to wed Lee na Young. And japenese is Japanese ofcourse
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danna
March 4, 2011 at 10:19 AM
me too...I always thought he was in his mid to late forties and was really surprised to find out he was only 38....I think he looked older in Dream High with the round glasses
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MJP
March 4, 2011 at 7:26 PM
Quote: *goes into witness protection programm* (japenese ajuhmma’s, you can’t find me now:p)
LOL!
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5 syer
March 4, 2011 at 6:58 AM
happy Friday.. currently listen to Chris Medina new song.. so touching...
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6 atashiwaame
March 4, 2011 at 7:01 AM
Hi everyone,
I´m from Germany and I started watching K-Dramas when I started learning Korean some time ago. Since I´ve become a huge fan and love to discuss those dramas I´m watching with my friends, I thought that it might be worth a shot to ask you guys wether some of you might be in Seoul/Korea at the end of the year - I´ll be staying in Seoul from October 2011 onwards for some time and right now I don´t know anybody there... would be nice to get to know people besides those from work though!
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hi
March 4, 2011 at 9:22 AM
Hi, I am not in Korean, but have you tried facebook? I think they have some groups for people teaching English in Seoul, Korea.
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Ambie
March 4, 2011 at 12:37 PM
Hi!
Hopefully I'll be in ROK by August... but you might want to go on facebook or Youtube and check out some folks!
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Biene1709
March 6, 2011 at 3:48 PM
Hey there,
I'm from Germany too and will be in Seoul again next year around February and March during my semester break. I've already been to Seoul three times so far, so if you're still in Seoul around that time I wouldn't mind hanging out with you ;)
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7 kc
March 4, 2011 at 7:03 AM
i dunno what to watch... my princess is finished and i want to watch something similar.. can anyone recommend some rom-com series??
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hope
March 4, 2011 at 7:11 AM
@kc how about 9th with 2 out or you already watched it?im not watch my princess yet,i kinda 'save the best for the last' or just my pirate dvd seller didnt have it.
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MJP
March 4, 2011 at 7:32 PM
Get Karl! Oh Soo Jung
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8 Agatha
March 4, 2011 at 7:03 AM
With Dream High and My Princess over I'm rewatching Boys Over Flowers japanese version again and it got me thinking, which version do you guys prefer? (I know you have probably discussed this already but I only discovered this site till recently so now I'm curious) So which one, japanese, korean or taiwanese version?
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syer
March 4, 2011 at 7:08 AM
for me taiwan version and Jerry Yan is the best..
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hope
March 4, 2011 at 7:18 AM
i prefer japanesse version although the romance is not much.
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Carinne
March 4, 2011 at 9:24 AM
TW version is best! Jia you!
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pipit
March 4, 2011 at 4:19 PM
For me the Taiwanese version is the best (if you also love to watch Japanese drama you'll notice that they are rather lacking in the romantic department, somehow they don't know how to explore/express the emotion to the fullest extend - don't kill me for saying this - it's just how I feel).
But if you watch the Tversion please REMEMBER to STOP at Meteor Garden I, DON'T even try to see MG II!
And Jerry Yan is awesome!!
(Should I also claim him as mine? Nobody is claiming him right? Tell me know if he is yours otherwise he is so mine!)
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TOOIZZY
March 4, 2011 at 7:08 AM
I liked the Korean because they didn't have that anti-foreigner thing that the Japanese one had when the lead was set up in the hotel. Like being with a foreigner was disgusting.
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SpongeBob
March 4, 2011 at 7:38 AM
Korean is anti-japanese. If you watch Giant, you will know what I mean!! Many Korean dramas and movies also have the anti-Japanese undertone. More recently, they also have some anti-American, anti-Chinese and anti-migration themes!! Bravo!!!
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SpongeBob
March 4, 2011 at 9:43 AM
Sorry, I meant many Korean drama are quite racist!!!
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amg01
March 4, 2011 at 10:01 AM
My dear @SpongeBob!
I do not know what to make of your comment, since it seems to me that in the beginning you are making a commentary about Koreans suffering from "Xenophobia", and that it is quiet easy seen in the dramas and movies as in the example of the drama "Giant" the you gave, to only give a loud "Bravo" at the end, so as to imply that you do agree with your statement, that Korean are "Xenophobes and suffer from Immigrant Prejudice".
I have never seen your handle before so, you may be knew around here, but when you go out of your way to make a statement concerning race and prejudice, is only a matter of time before some one calls you upon it!!!!!!
I think it will be of great help to us if you will "clarify" your above statement, since from my point of reading , it seems to me that you may be the one suffering from "Xenophobia and Prejudice".
I did not meant to offend you , but since this forums is a "Multiracial" one derogatory comments are seen as a flaming assault on a lot of peoples backgrounds and sensibility's concerning racial background!!!!!
Yours truly Amg1!!!!! :O}
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amg01
March 4, 2011 at 10:10 AM
Sorry for my grammatical errors!!!!!
SpongeBob
March 4, 2011 at 12:02 PM
You do not offend. I have to go for couple of meetings, then a dinner. Will reply to you tomorrow.
SpongeBob
March 5, 2011 at 1:15 AM
My clarification will be based on specific examples which signifies the undertones of racisms in some recent Korean dramas and movies that I happen to read from the Japanese, Korean and Chinese bloggers.
FYI, I do not watch many Korean dramas and movies, just occassional fews, and I found the "undertones" interesting, at times very intense and nationalistics.
If you want to know direct racisms on anti-Japanese sentiments, please watch Capital Scandal. I am here only to point out or clarify on the undercurrent which is now unfolding in Japan and China on Korean wave!!
(1) Giant - anti-Japanese & anti-American
Referring to Episode 35 to 37 (based on my recollection), when Song Mu tried to unseat Jo Pil Yeon
during the election, the undercurrent he brought to table was that JPY's father was a spy who used to help the Japanese during its 35-year of occupation.
You can see the anti-American sentiment or belittle the american sentimen in the first few episodes of Giant. You may recall when KSY stole the classified information from the American chief of staff, the drama just potrayed how clueless and idiotic of the senior American intelligence was.
(2) Daemul - anti-Chinese (or rather showed Korean superiority as how GHJ projected herself to the Premier of China), rather than attention her anger directly towards the North Korean.
Anti-American undercurrent by showing some sloppy American wearing an oversize clothes as the US President against the tall GHJ.
Then followed by an anti-migration theme when KSW shouting at GHJ's son telling him he would growing up a stateless soul if he happened to reside in Australia. KSW appeared to have won many votes for this particular scenes in Korea, if I recalled correctly. I thought it was a real Bravo for KSW to be able to turn around his "fengshui" from bad to good.
FYI, I happen to know how to read a bit of Chinese and did surf the Chinese board/blog on Daemul. Basically, the sentiments in China fans were to boycott Daemul. At the same time, the netizen also raised the anti-Korean sentiments on Queen Seonduk which I do not wish to go into details here. I thought it was a Bravo to have such a huge anti-Korean sentiments discussed over in Baidu in a spend of one month.
(3) Actresses - movie
You may recall, Lee Ming Sook telling CJW that she was surprise that CJW can speak Korean, she thought she can only speak Japanese. Then you see the smirks from the rest of the actresses. I thought this is a real "Bravo" for the PD to capture those smirks on the face.
If you happen to read some of the Japanese blogs, this smirks were actually brought up as well.
BTW, if you are not aware of the Japanese anti-Korean wave, you may want to check this out:
http://www.hancinema.net/intern-report-anti-korean-wave-backlash-has-political-historical-causes-27898.html
BYJ as zombie
http://suehanbyj.blogspot.com/2010/08/news-transyonsama-appeared-as-zombie-in.html
My intention is simple i.e. to raise awareness about anti-Korean waves in Japan and China.
I know at least one or two of you will definitely react. The one who most likely to react first is an American.Am I correct to say so?
I am not saying your view about racisms and prejudice is incorrect, I am just trying to provide you with an alternate view.
SpongeBob
March 5, 2011 at 6:39 PM
We are here to discuss about korean dramas, you think too much. Relax and have some peace of mind. Otherwise, you will always be so tense and on a defensive mood.
Haha...you are talking to a person who was born in Lyon, brought in Hong Kong, Japan, Korea, Australia and Singapore. Schooled in UK, US and Canada. Worked and lived in DC, NY, Vienna, Geneva, Nairobi, Manila, Jakarta and Kuala Lumpur!! ^------------^ Visit close to 120 UN member states now at a tender age of ....so you may know the history by reading, I actually wrote so of the countries history now!!
amg01
March 5, 2011 at 9:09 PM
My dear @SpongeBob.
Firstly, thank you for taking the time to respond.
Secondly, I am so glad that you have the chance to travel around the world, and have a good education, as you seem to imply in your last post.
Thirdly, I gave you ample reasons as why Koreans seem to look xenophobes, and racist trough the eyes of dramas and movies.
Fourthly, I was not trying to patronize you at all, something that seems that you are doing to the ones who happen to disagree with you, and I personally resent that.
Fifthly, you are implying that because I study the history of China, Korea, Japan, and other Asian Country's, some how that knowledge is invalidated because you have travel around the world? Well I am sorry to tell you that you are if not wrong, indeed a bit miss inform.
Last but not least;
The fact that you choose to ignore my question, and the historical background that I gave you, and decide to answer me, in a back handed manner it proves to me that in reality you are the "Xenophobe" and have some serious prejudices towards Koreans, and since this is a forum that deals with Korean culture, and furthermore is run by two of the most outstanding Korean-American Lady's in cyber-space, I will ignore what you have to say on the basis that you do not contribute any positive commentary to this blog.
But thank you again for your response!!!!
Yours truly Amg1.... : O }
SpongeBob
March 5, 2011 at 9:53 PM
Again please refer to the heading of this blog i.e. Dramabeans. It is a forum to discuss Korean dramas. Please keep a moment of quiet, and look inside yourself, and have some inner peace.
I am here to find some entertainment and some peace of mind. Om......Om.....^___________^
brookeeve
March 6, 2011 at 9:51 AM
I am so glad, my dear SpongeBob, that you can inform Amg1 and I what this blog is about. In the past year that Amg1 and I have been writing on this blog, we must have missed the point of it entirely. It is so good that you, whom I believe I have seen write here once or twice before, can tell us what we have been doing wrong.
That was sarcasm, in case you missed it.
The title of this blog is, in fact, Dramabeans, with the subheading of Deconstructing Korean Dramas and K-Pop Culture. You brought up that you think that Koreans are racist. This is a view that you garnered about Korean culture. Amg1 and I were only trying to say that you are wrong, which I believe that we have proved adequately.
Look, if you don't want us to jump on your case, let me share with you a quote that my students often spout. 'Don't start none, won't be none.' This means if you are uncomfortable with the way that the discussion is going, you shouldn't have started it. You don't get to stop it just because you suddenly sense that you are on the losing side and start with some tantric BS. This is where you make an apology as you have offended more than one person, and then you can move on.
SpongeBob
March 6, 2011 at 9:09 PM
What I can hear are that two Western stray dogs kept barking non-stops!! Shoo!! Shoo! Shook!! ^__________^
AmbieH
March 7, 2011 at 7:45 AM
Sooo yeah ... this is my hopefully one and only response to Spongebob...
I will try to keep it short and to the point..
What the f*ck is your problem? Don't come on this blog and start sh*t. This is not the place for it. If you want to troll on a website and cause discord. please. choose. another. website.
Do not come and harm and spread your ignorant netizen ways on DB.
You want to have a discussion on the anti-foreign lean that some kdramas have fine, here is how your post should have been:
"Korean dramas can be anti foreign. IMO, Giant is an good example. I have seen many Korean dramas and movies also have the anti-foriegn undertones."
From there, you could have had an amazing discourse in relation to that topic.
That's it.
No calling people western stray dogs.
That is utterly repulsive not needed here.
Even "strays" deserve dignity from others.
In case you forgot AMERICA is ALL about the STRAYS.....
No matter how well your formal education "might" be you sorely lack the social skills to be on this website.
Oh yeah one last thing.. COWARDS like you hide behind a computer.
SpongeBob
March 7, 2011 at 7:59 AM
LOL!!! Yet another stray dogs barking...ooops, or rather American Bulldogs!! please have some bones!! hungrybdog is an angry dog.
Just called the RSPCA, it is on it's way now!!!! ^___________^
brookeeve
March 4, 2011 at 11:23 AM
I'm not going to be as nice as Amg1 here. I know, first time for everything.
Dude, step back. My step-son is Korean, and my brother is Japanese. Think about something before you write it. Normally, I can disagree with people and be respectful, but this is not one of those instances. What you said ain't cool, it ain't right, and I got no patience for stupidity like yours.
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SpongeBob
March 4, 2011 at 12:00 PM
My grandma is a Japanese, my grandpa is a Korean. They got married during the second world war in US? and my mother is a Chinese.
brookeeve
March 5, 2011 at 1:00 PM
I can give you examples of how Americans hate foreigners, too. Lots of them. Does that mean that all Americans everywhere hate foreigners? I guess that means I'm going to have to stop hanging out with lots of my friends.
When you make broad sweeping generalizations about an entire country, you my friend are being racist. I think that it is sad that you claim to be part Korean and have this negative stereotype in your head about your own relatives and in turn your own self. Not every Korean is anti-American or anti-Japanese, and that is what you are saying and therefore I have every right to be offended that you are accusing my friends and relatives of being close-minded bigoted pricks. So yeah, I'm going to stand up for my friends and family. Deal with that however you want, but you will not convince me that you are in the right.
SpongeBob
March 5, 2011 at 6:44 PM
Relax and refer to my statement above. We are here discussing about korean dramas and not who is the biggest racists!!
MJP
March 4, 2011 at 8:08 PM
Hello SpongeBob! Welcome to the OT. We are generally a very warm and welcoming environment.
It's sad to see that things seem to have gotten off on a bad note. I hope there can be a peaceful resolution and clarification to this issue.
So, in the spirit of kindness, I welcome you.
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SpongeBob
March 5, 2011 at 1:27 AM
Good to uphold the spirit of kindness, while stating the facts, albeit unendearing will be even more nice. ^___________^
amg01
March 5, 2011 at 3:56 PM
*Racism, Xenophobia, and Prejudice in Korean Dramas and Films*
My Dear @ SpongeBob.
Firstly, I want to thank you for clarifying, your first post, since it will give us a more concrete avenue in which we can respond to your above comments.
Secondly, I am not Asian, but one of my nicknames that some of my friends calls me is “El Chino”, meaning the “Chinese One”, I have exposed myself to the “Asian Cultures” as a whole for the past 25 years of my adult life, starting with the Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese, Thailand, Cambodia, India, the Middle East, and for the past 6 years the Korean culture.
During the past 25 years I have study some of the different Asian cultures and there is something that I have found out, China, Japan, and Korea, share a very unique “national, (writing), and cultural, and belicos, bond that has been century’s in the making. I am by no means an expert on “Asian Study's” but as an “outsider”, it gives me the advantage, to read and study the historical background, without any familial, and cultural extra baggage as I try to interpret the facts, I am not implying at all, and let me make that clear again, I am not implying that native people have a bias point of view as they interpret their own history, but that bias does exist, and that bias is what I will like to used as the glue that binds the argument that people are trying to make.
Historically speaking we know that it is human nature to hold a “bias or prejudice”, towards the people we do not like, or behave different than we do, it comes at its core from the point of a survival instinct, and the ignorance to the “unknown”, I do not believe that this natural and visceral feeling or frame of mind is wrong at all, but rather how we express this bias, is what makes it right or wrong.
* Chinese Invasion of Korea*
In the year 1619 the leaders of the Joseon Dynasty, sent 10,000 troops to China to help the Ming Dynasty (lead by ethnic Hans), battle the newly form Manch Dynasty (Lead by the Manchus).
This lead to the “First Invasion of Korea” by the Manchus in the year 1627, at the command of “ Huang Taiji”, the Korean leaders struck a peace accord with the Manchus only to opposed the creation of the Qing Dynasty by Huang Taiji, this opposition brought about the “Second Invasion of Korea” in the winter of 1637, this was very bad for the Koreans since they lost the war, to become a “tributary state” to the Qing Dynasty.
*Japanese Invasion of Korea*
In the year 1592 the Japanese invaded Korea under the command of “ Toyotomi Hideyoshi” lasting till 1596, and
then the “Second invasion” from (1597 to 1598).
Toyotomi Hideyoshi's, plan was to conquer Korea, The Jing and Ming Dynasty’s of China, and eventually India.
The Japanese invasion was bad for Japan at Sea, and bad for Korea in land, the Koreans lost thousands of soldiers and civilians. But japan fail at the conquest of Korea and China.
From (1 August 1894 – 17 April 1895) Japan and Korea engage in what is call the “First Sino-Japanese war. Now it is rather cumbersome for me to address this part of history since history clearly shows that Korea was at the loosing end of both China and Japan. This two nations engage in a war for the control of Korea, with Japan being victorious at the end of the conflict. One of the saddest incidents at the end of this conflict was the murder of Empress Myeongseong (19 October 1851 – 8 October 1895), also known as Queen Min, at the hand of Japanese soldiers, since she was view by the Japanese as and obstacle to the annexation of Korea by Japan.
Japan successfully annex Korea on 17 November 1905, but by the signing of the the “Eulsa Treaty or Japan-Korea Protectorate Treaty” the annexation was ratified in 1910.
I do not have the time to go in depth concerning the “Inhuman, and barbaric treatment of the Korean people by the Japanese invaders, specially the woman who where subject to horrific sexual abuse and mistreatment” that the government of Japan still denies till this day!
Japan's unconditional surrender to the Allied Forces, on 15 August 1945, mark the day when in modern history Korea finally became independent of any foreign invasion, but a freedom that was not to last for long, since the Korean war was looming around the horizon.
1950 mark the beginning of the Korean war, fueled in the North by the communist of Red China with the full blessings of the Russian Politburo, and in the south by the American army under the leadership of General Douglas MacArthur .
The eventual “Stalemate “ (July 1951 – July 1953)
of this “civil war” brought the brake up of the Korean peninsula and the eventual signing of the Armistice Agreement on 27 July 1953 to end the fighting
Once again I do not have the time to explore the Korean war, but newly declassified Russian, Chinese, and American, files have shade some light on the behind scenes of the Korean war, suffice to say that the Korean war was not fought for the betterment of the Korean people, and let me make that very clear, the Russian's, Chinese, and American did not care about the regular Korean Folk, for them this war was a war of “Power and Control” in which again the Korean people got the short end of the stick.
My dear @SpongeBob.
I feel I have given you some ample historical background, about the relationship with the 3 major Asian nations, and we can see that for whatever reason Korea has been the focal point of people fighting to control its people for the most part of its history'
I have pointed out how they have been invaded time and time again, and have to make difficult alliances in order to survived.
So one can clearly see why Koreans have grown to be very “Nationalistic”, a trait that I do not look “down upon”, I was born in Mexico, but I am an American citizen, and I can assured you that Americans are some of the most Nationalistic people on this planet!
Now concerning dramas and movies, if we take real history into account, when Koreans makes a drama or a movie that deals with the invasion of their country by a foreign nation, it should be expected that they will show some “bias and prejudice towards the invaders”, so than my question to you will be in how will you portray the invasion of your country in a positive light? When the invaders kill score of your people, rape and pillage, and made your sons into slaves and your daughters into less than lower class courtesans.
I can tell you that I do not find the portrayal of the Japanese and Chinese in Korean dramas or movies to be utterly Xenophobe or with ill prejudice, we need to remember that Korea is reaching to make money at the end of the day, so to make dramas or movies who are way out of line, or over the top Racist as you call it will be a financial blunder since other country’s will not buy a product that bashes their own culture.
Last but not the least I have no desire of changing the way you view the world, or your opinion at that, I am just sharing my point of view with out trying to offend no one.
Thank you for clarifying your initial statements!!!
Yours truly Amg1! :O}
SpongeBob
March 5, 2011 at 6:48 PM
Again please refer to my statement above. :o}
Objective Thoughts
March 7, 2011 at 12:25 PM
There are no winners in any of these comments, just pride, pain, bleakness, and desolation.
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SpongeBob
March 7, 2011 at 12:43 PM
You are absolutely right!! There is a classic American proverb which you will not learn even in Harvard. That is "Never Wrestle with a Pig"!!! LOL!!!
Objective Thoughts
March 7, 2011 at 2:24 PM
SpongeBob,
You make me laugh! LOL!!!
You know at one time there were contests to see who could catch a greased pig?
http://www.g4tv.com/videos/39792/Kevin-Pereiras-Greased-Pig/
queencircles
March 4, 2011 at 8:19 AM
I also like the korean version better. I watched it first, so that might have something to do with it...but I just loved minho! He just nailed that character so well that when I watched the japanese ver, I didn't like the main character as much, or like at all really.
I liked the girl just fine in both, and I actually prefer the japanese rue to hyunjoong's korean ver. The jap. guy was just a better actor. Though hyunjoong is cute, I really didn't see his appeal until playful kiss. I found myself shouting at him to get off the screen in bof, I just hated the character.... but when I watched hana yori dango, I thought the character had more of a draw.
I didn't notice the anti-foreigners thing...but without recaps, sometimes I miss stuff. Or it just didn't catch my attention enough for me to remember.
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annie
March 4, 2011 at 8:17 AM
Japanese version hands down! I watched it first and I couldn't stomach BOF, even though I tried like three times to watch it when it was so crazy popular. I couldn't get past episode 7 or 8. In comparison to Makino and Domyouji, the chemistry was flat, the acting was meh, the soundtrack was obnoxious, and everything was so overexaggerated. Plus I read the manga first, and I didn't like how many liberties the Korean version took from the original.
I think the biggest charm of HYD though, aside from the couple, is Inoue Mao as Makino - she was perfect as the stubborn "weed" that refused to give up, with an optimistic spirit and a willingness to kick the male lead in the pants when he needed it. And she didn't lose all her spirit halfway through either.
From what I saw of BOF, and to be fair I only saw up to the New Caledonia episodes, there wasn't any real chemistry between Jandi and Gunpyo. I mean, even though she was supposedly being won over by him, I just didn't see any affection between them. It seemed very forced, even on the part of supposedly head-over-heels Go Junpyo. I feel like MatsuJun did a much better job of portraying the vulnerablity and the slowly awakening feelings under the asshole exterior, whereas although Lee Minho was way hotter, he was just an asshole who wanted a new toy. (But maybe I would feel differently if I could have have made it to the end. Don't kill me, LMH fans!)
Also loved the extended cast in HYD, especially Hanazawa Rui (*fans self*), Yuki, and the other two F4 members. The friendship between Domyouji and Rui in HYD brought tears to my eyes. I love the airport scene where the F4 comes to see Rui off.
Yeesh, super long, sorry! I always feel like HYD doesn't get enough love (and BOF gets waaay too much). I haven't seen the TW version.
runs from crazed BOF fangirls waving burning pitchforks
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queencircles
March 4, 2011 at 8:26 AM
That soundtrack WAS obnoxious. Lol
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annie
March 4, 2011 at 8:53 AM
I know right? The onlu good thing to come out of that was the "AAALMOOST PAAARADIIISE" parodies.
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queencircles
March 4, 2011 at 9:00 AM
Hahahaha yea. No one will ever forget. Sooo bad but so good lol.
Agatha
March 4, 2011 at 4:52 PM
OMG Everytime I heard ALMOST PARADISE!!! I wanted to run to the hills. I swear I would stop watching the episode and come back an hour later. And let me say Laica, that I agree with you, that is why I am rewatching HYD Jap. I mean Makino and Domiouyi just made my day, I mean did you see Domiouyi's eyes when he was keeping himself away from Makito thanks to his witch of a mother? He was saying he didn't love her but HIS EYES TOLD OTHERWISE!!!! I mean that is some high caliber acting.
MJP
March 4, 2011 at 7:40 PM
Do you mean this one? Ha! Ha! Ha! I'm in a silly mood today!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8b8PEdT3juU
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Viola
March 6, 2011 at 12:13 PM
I am listening to this song after so long, and um I think I actually like it?!! It's actually quite catchy! How come I don't hate it like I hated it in the drama?!! *confused*
CapitalScandalRock
March 4, 2011 at 8:43 AM
Japanes version anytime...........I totally liked the F4 and main actress ...T drama I liked Zai Zai only.....K-drama Kim bum only...................
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jomo143
March 4, 2011 at 11:28 AM
Funniest and most startling thing about the Japanese version was hearing the foulest languare imaginable in the NYC scenes.
My 13 year old daughter and I were SHOCKED and giggling at how liberally they used the F word.
It was like watching Goodfellas!
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annie
March 4, 2011 at 12:19 PM
LOL so true!
saraha
March 4, 2011 at 10:08 AM
I so agree! I totally love the Japanese version, and I have friends who don't understand why and prefer the Korean version.
For me, the biggest charm was Matsujun's portrayal of Domyouji. He totally owned that role. He could act slapstick/silly and I would totally buy it-- he made it totally convincing that Domyouji was some parts crazy.
Jerry Yan was too stiff, although I liked the TW version because it had its sweet moments.
Lee Min Ho acts and carries himself well, but I felt the lack of romantic chemistry dampened my like for him.
Plus, JP version had an awesome soundtrack!
So Japanese HYD= FTW!!!
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Stella
March 4, 2011 at 10:15 AM
Hi Saraha,
I disagree with you. Although Domyouji was supposed to be a tough guy, I couldn't buy the act.
Didn't seem like he could hold his own in a 1 on 1 fight much less winning a group fight. He looks so wussy, and yet we're supposed to believe that he can fight like a badass?? Please
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saraha
March 4, 2011 at 10:21 AM
That's the thing. He looks wussy but acts totally crazy. It's like if you get in his way, BOOM, you don't know what hits you.
To each his own. :)
Stella
March 4, 2011 at 10:39 AM
hahaha
Well played. You win......this time
annie
March 4, 2011 at 12:20 PM
Yup, I loved MatsuJun as Doumyouji too! He owned the role so much his small stature was almost irrelevant.
And I loved the soundtrack too. Especially that one song by Utada Hikaru in Season 2.
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clichique
March 5, 2011 at 12:42 AM
OMG. Now I'm going to listen to Flavor Of Life. Which I know all the lyrics to, TOO, because I've listened to it a billion times.
SEE, BOF, THIS IS HOW YOU MAKE A REAL SOUNDTRACK.
(I swear, I'm going to shoot someone if I hear "Almost PARADIIIIIIIIISSSSEEEEEEEEEEE" again.)
gailt
March 4, 2011 at 12:42 PM
thank you for writing this, laica!! i've seen all 3 (even the TW sequel ugh), and i super agree with all your points, especially the love for Inoue Mao. I mean, what she did with the story is how one makes the audience root for the heroine. I just can't stand doormat heroines. Although Makino was constrained by her circumstances and Domyouji's mom, the audience can see that Makino is much tougher and a stronger weed than anybody can believe.
I marathoned HYD1+2 twice, and I still watch parts of it when I feel blue.
Maybe it depends on which version you see first. I saw HYD first then MG1 then HYD again then MG2 then BOF. (At one point, I even had both HYD and MG playing with MG muted so I can enjoy the Nihongo. LOL) I skipped lots of BOF but read recaps here religiously. While I know people who saw BOF first and disliked HYD.
/end rambling
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chahaya
March 4, 2011 at 9:21 AM
Japanese for their storyline, Taiwanese for their character and Korean for their actors
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ck1Oz
March 4, 2011 at 3:14 PM
Oh true I agree with that.Korean for that eye candy.
Just watch all 3 most everyone did it seems.
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mizweng
March 4, 2011 at 8:00 PM
totally agree with you adney.... and i enjoy reading all your views here... hehehe
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Stella
March 4, 2011 at 10:01 AM
Japanese version:
Makino is waaaay prettier and better played then Jandi
The cinematography is gorgeous
They have season 2 and even a movie
The soundtrack is fantastic and not overplayed (yes I'm talking about you....AAAAAAALmost PAAAAAradise)
Korean version:
The Guys are hotter especially Lee Min Ho! **swoon**
Love the Bromance between the F4
F4 is dressed better
We actually care about the secondary characters
Taiwan version:
Dunno...never seen it cus the guys weren't hot
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anitalotti
March 4, 2011 at 2:18 PM
F4 are not hot?!? Damn, where did I put my pitchfork again? It's never there when I need it!
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anitalotti
March 4, 2011 at 2:29 PM
Sorry for swearing!
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danna
March 4, 2011 at 10:21 AM
lol....i have only fully watched the Japanese and Korean versions and I have to admit I think the Japanese one trumps the Korean one in terms of storyline, directing and acting even though I had more fun watching the Korean one because of all the fangirl madness at the time...god I miss those days...it was soooooo absolutely nuts!...i havent actually felt that level of drama madness since YAB....though SKKS came pretty close last year
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taizhu
March 4, 2011 at 10:53 AM
I definitely preferred the Japanese version--It had the best chemistry between Domyoji and Makino--it was also my first asian drama, which I watched in a half-coerced 9-hr marathon with my friend how wanted to introduce me to japanese dramas. I found the korean BOF a little over done and lacking in chemistry. i thought the Korean guy who was supposed to be Rui was not good looking and a bad actor. So I have never been able to finish BOF--can't get past episode 10. How could you ever forget the hideously ugly Domyoji cookies Makino made? I wanted to bake them myself. Or the sight of Domyoji-san shivering in the rain like a little soaked kitty--100 pounds sopping wet.
I haven't watched the TW version, although I am tempted as I have recently developed a mini-crush on the TW actor, Vic Zhou and am in the midst of watching all his dramas. It would probably hard for me to pass on Meteor Shower--the drama that made him famous in the first place.
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brookeeve
March 4, 2011 at 11:13 AM
I like the Taiwanese version best... but it's recently been pointed out to me that I am not motivated by things like good acting or plot development... I am attracted to pure entertainment value of a show, which may or may not be apparent to anyone else.
I really like the Taiwanese F4, I always have and I figure that I always will. I like Jerry Yan's goober smile, I like Van Ness's ADHD, and to a lesser extent Ken and Vic entertain me with their occasional 'drowning' imitation (the point in a show where an actor looks up with the expression of, 'oh, am i supposed to be acting here?').
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gailt
March 4, 2011 at 12:33 PM
I prefer the japanese version the most. Inoue Mao can make the heroine sympathetic. she's not a doormat.
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Jay
March 4, 2011 at 1:16 PM
I think the Taiwan version is the best in terms of showing Shan Cai (Makino)'s character as strong and resilient even when she's in a bad situation -- I love Barbie Hsu's portrayal. I like the F4 here -- none of them are particularly great actors at this point, but they do a great job of conveying the tone of these guys as lifelong friends and buddies. I especially enjoy the goofy aspect of Jerry Yan's Dao Ming Si, and physically he's a good match for the role. Vic Zhou's Lei is actually my favorite version of Rui with the way he portray's the character's spacy distance (which may just be the actor's lack of experience) and innate charm (totally Zai Zai).
I think the Japanese version is the best in terms of chemistry between Makino and Domyouji -- their version of the romance is the one I love the most. Mao Inoue is a great actress but I feel the script makes her Makino more of a victim than necessary, especially compared to Shan Cai. Matsujun is so wrong physically for Domyouji but he somehow makes it work because his performance is larger-than-life, for lack of better words. It even gets endearing to see little nutcase Domyouji throw himself around. The F4 is all right, but not as fun as the TW version IMO.
I think both the TW and Japanese versions are kind of awful in their second seasons, though. If I'd been a huge fan of either while airing, I would have wanted to throw myself under a bus, especially with the TW version. Yes, let's have our lead fall in with and be with another girl for 15 plus episodes -- our fans are sure to love it! The Japanese season 2 is less annoying, but again, Makino comes off as such a victim -- it's really frustrating as a viewer. However, the Japanese movie final makes up for a lot, with rewarding the viewers with the big happy ending, which I totally loved because I do love this Makino and Domyouji together.
I hated the Korean version and couldn't get past episode 9. There was no chemistry between the two leads, I didn't really even like Jan Di, and it was ALLLLL so over the top. I couldn't see why anyone would fall in love with either one of them, honestly. The only aspect of this version I did enjoy was Yi Jeong and Ga Eul, mostly due to the actors' sizzling chemistry. I wanted to watch a show about them instead!
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pipit
March 4, 2011 at 5:00 PM
Although I think the MG I is the best version I totally am in love with the movie final! The emotions which are often lacking in the Japanese series are abundant in the movie final. And it makes me love Damyouji more too.
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ar_arguably romantic
March 4, 2011 at 1:40 PM
the japanese version! I remember it was sophomore year of college when I saw Matsumoto Jun strutting around as Doumyoji and was totally upset to see this short, scrawny guy as Doumyoji. I remember saying aloud "how dare they do this!!" Then I watched him act. Blew me away. (and humbled my shallow self) And I also felt that the japanese Makino seemed more like the strong Makino in the manga than the other ones. Barbie and Gu Hye Sun played them a bit too weak.
But to be fair, I only watched part of Meteor Garden and BOF. Meteor Garden has a special place in my heart because of my teen obsession with Jerry Yan and I think it had a slightly better F4 team. BOF's got Lee MinHo.
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clichique
March 4, 2011 at 2:30 PM
OMG I have totally wanted to talk about this recently, but I'm not sure why so I'm glad you came up with this question!!
For me, the Japanese version wins HANDS. DOWN.
Hana Yori Dango is just such a growing up story for the characters. And that was truly portrayed in the Japanese version. I watched these characters GROW UP. Inoue Mao's Makino was winning and strong. I could sympathize with her, and we watch her slowly warm up to the crazy Domyouji. Matsujun... this is the performance that made me a half-obsessive Arashi fan (not so much anymore, just because I don't have time to LOL). Yes, he's scrawny, but his performance as Domyouji was just so convincing. And the chemistry between the two leads, wow.
The Japanese version has the entire package. You've got a solid performance from ALL of the actors (there really was no weak link in the cast, everybody was just so winning), the amazing cinematography, the great soundtrack (I can still sing WISH and Love So Sweet, all lyrics memorized), EVERYTHING EVERYTHING EVERYTHING. Omg now I feel like rewatching it because this is one of my all-time favorites. Forever and ever.
The Taiwanese version has a special place in my heart, though. It is THE first Asian drama I have ever watched. Ever. It's endearing in that, but I think it is rather weak compared to the Japanese version. I think it was the wooden performances, upon thinking back, but I probably have things remembered in a rosy color, since at that time I was in my "beginning Asian drama watching" experience..... which led to my current drama obsession..... However, I must say I really liked Barbie Hsu's portrayal of Makino. Again, I get the vibe of a strong, resilient character.
I hated the Korean version. I forever will. The only good thing that came out of it was the discovery of Lee Minho, and Kim Bum and Kim Soeun. That was about it. Goo Hyesun RUINED Makino for me. I watched a full 10 episodes and I probably have high blood pressure from that experience. Why was Jandi so freaking obnoxious? Actually that can be said of the entire drama, minus Kim Hyunjoong, who was pretty much just a stone. Oh, did I mention he also ruined Rui, too? Speaking of which, I loved Oguri Shun's Rui. Swoon-worthy.
I feel like the Korean version lost sight of what Hana Yori Dango was... It tried to go crazy with the huge dramatics and everything. And then it just ended up being so obnoxious. Just like, you know, I can take print-mixing in small (and classy) doses but when your ENTIRE outfit is fifty different prints, it hurts my eyes. And there was no chemistry. And I hated Jandi. She was not "strong and resilient." And Gu Hyesun's performance was just so strained and so obviously forced. I wanted to hit my head on a desk the entire time. Don't even get me started on the HORRIBLE soundtrack. My ears. Bleeding.
I seriously sat through 10 episodes because I still remember this was senior year in high school and I had some friends who had recently discovered Asian dramas and were OBSESSING over it. I... just couldn't get through it. No matter how hard I tried. I tried to recommend the Japanese version, which was BY FAR superior. I couldn't understand what they were seeing? But now I realize they only watched for the eye candy factor, which no longer works for me after watching years and years of Asian dramas. Sometimes not even the eye candy is enticing enough. I can never understand the fandom that came out of BOF. Okay, yes, I still watch for eye candy, but if it's SO BAD sometimes not even the eye candy does it. It's like a super attractive guy...... except he doesn't shower, has horrible taste in clothes, has a whiny obnoxious voice. No matter how greatlooking he is, he is forever off my list.
And probably because I've gotten lots lots more pickier with my dramas....
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annie
March 4, 2011 at 6:16 PM
I agree with all of your points!
And for me HYD was also my first ever Asian drama, so it's all of that awesomeness plus the blush of first love... sigh. I need to go watch it again.
And OMG, I could not understand why everyone loved BOF so much, it was as you said, overdone and obnoxious. Especially Jandi.
I'm really happy to see all the love for the Japanese version on this thread. :)
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clichique
March 4, 2011 at 7:59 PM
I know. What was Geum Jandi?
I saw a girl who was pretty much just annoying and obnoxious. Someone I wouldn't want to be friends with in real life. As opposed to Makino in Hana Yori Dango. I wanted to be friends with that girl.
The Japanese version is SUCH love!!
*goes to listen to WISH for the billionth time*
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annie
March 4, 2011 at 11:22 PM
Yes, exactly! Makino would make such a great friend. I was on her side, cheering her on from the first scene.
Where as with Jandi, I kind of didn't care she was getting bullied. I almost understoond where her tormenters were coming from. :P
Doumyouji falling for Makino was as natural as breathing. She changed his life. Whereas Gunpyo falling for Jandi was just... WTF?
clichique
March 5, 2011 at 12:25 AM
I know! Makino seems like a LEGIT cool girl I would want to be friends with.
Jandi? Uh, no.
And I have no idea what Goo Joonpyo saw behind that atrocious helmet hair, obnoxious voice..... It was like the same feeling I got when I found out certain people I know of got girlfriends/boyfriends. Total wtf moments.
Personally, if I went to that school, I probably wouldn't care if she was bullied. Because she really is obnoxious. I wouldn't hate on her because she's poor, but because she's just plain annoying and up in everybody's faces. Didn't help that Gu Hyesun's portrayal made it so obvious she was trying to be cute. Key point: TRYING. Ugh it was just so painful.
saraha
March 4, 2011 at 8:14 PM
OMG. We went through the same thing!
I have fond memories of Meteor Garden because it was the first Taiwanese drama I watched. The acting was stiff, attributed to that they were all rookies then; but I still have warm, fuzzy feelings when I think about this drama. Most especially because of the f4 chemistry and Barbie Hsu's portrayal. And I used to just laugh/cringe at Jerry Yan's acting-- it was so bad but I just found it funny, not annoying.
With the Korean version, I got so annoyed at Gu Hyesun's portrayal. You're right-- it is so forced and strained. That's why I can't muster any sort of admiration for her at this point. I think she should improve on her acting, but she has instead focused on directing presenting herself as quite the auteur. I do admire her artistic sensibilities, but if she wants to pursue directing instead of acting, I don't think I'll watch her when she DOES act.
*runs away from Gu Hyesun's fans*
So, my favorite is the Japanese version. The scene that killed me (and I still remember vividly) was the scene (in season 2) when Makino ran after Domyouji's sister's car because she had to tell her that she still loves Domyouji and always will. It was, WOW.
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clichique
March 4, 2011 at 11:05 PM
Yes the bromance in Meteor Garden!! I loved it! Plus the fact that they made like a boy band out of it totally got me. Yes, I was still in boy band stage at that stage in my life, so it was right up my ally.
THE BROMANCE between all four of them, especially between Rui and Domyouji, is present in the Japanese version. There is a TRUE BROMANCE going on. I totally forgot about this factor too. In the Korean one, didn't really feel it. Granted, I place some of the blame on The Stone aka Kim Hyunjoong. I mean just that one scene (I'm getting my seasons mixed up, but I think it was season 2 or maybe not idek), where Rui and Makino are walking and then Rui leaves and Domyouji comes and Rui bromantically waves them goodbye.... omg THE BROMANCE.
My favorite scene though is in season 1. The elevator scene and him waiting for her in the rain. That was also the point where I totally broke down and started rooting for Domyouji. I also loved how at the end of season 2 (which I have mixed feelings about, there were some really great parts but also lackluster parts that I felt was like me watching filler anime or something) they tie it back, word for word. At this point I was also breaking down in tears, oh so touching...
Gosh I want to rewatch this now. LOL.
I agree. I used to really REALLY like Gu Hyesun because I had liked some of her works prior to BOF. And then I watched BOF and I was like, what the hell was this??! It was like all of her acting ability disappeared or something, like how her long hair before turned into that horrible helmet hair bowl cut. I can't respect her anymore, and while I admire how she tries to pursue her artistic/production/directing abilities, she first needs to polish her acting skills in the first place. Unless, of course, her end goal from the beginning was to do the work she's doing right now and acting was only a means to get there...... *barricading myself from GHS fans*
annie
March 4, 2011 at 11:26 PM
@ saraha
First loves will always have a special place in our hearts. :)
@ clichique
The elevator scene! One of my favourites. And I broke down in tears at the scene whre he rescues her and then finally regains his memories through the reenactment of that scene. That was so lovely.
I am dying to rewatch this now. We should have a group viewing on OT.
clichique
March 5, 2011 at 12:33 AM
I am so tempted to rewatch this after I finish season 2 of LIar Game.......... which I am like one episode away from. Man, this is so bad, marathoning. Sigh. The disadvantage of watching shows that have already been completed. But when you watch shows airing, you have the uncomfortable weekly wait. What a dilemma.
nonski ⭐️A forever JIN who crash landed on Hyun Bins heart❤️!
March 4, 2011 at 9:08 PM
yeah, same sentiments on BOF, not even Lee Min Ho could change my mind about it and grrrrrrrrrrr,,,,,,KHJ is a STONE in his acting there....
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rose
March 4, 2011 at 5:25 PM
the jap version have the best story build up for me , the sexy hot matsujun perfect for the role, but the taiwanese version is my first love and dao ming si is the tsukasa i fell in love with , so i have the taiwanese and jap as my first and korean second and 3rd the chinese version
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joybells
March 6, 2011 at 5:27 AM
korean version coz it us lee minhoooooooo.....hehe......bt da storyline was a huge mess
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9 TOOIZZY
March 4, 2011 at 7:06 AM
COULD someone please tell me the name of the actor that played the cop in the series QUEEN OF REVERSALS? I've been looking ALL OVER.
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tildy
March 4, 2011 at 8:52 AM
Took some digging, but Mr. Hyuk-not-Woo-hyuk is Yang Jin woo (양진우), and for some reason QOR isn't listed on his dramawiki page.
http://wiki.d-addicts.com/Yang_Jin_Woo
Here's a nice pic:
http://pann.news.nate.com/info/250183196
So, TGIF everyone!
Anyone else watching and enjoying Sparkling/Shining/All that Glitters? Kim Hyun joo is so, so cute in this and I like both families.
My quibbles with the show are mostly about the characterization. The male lead is just the cookie-cutter, run-of-the-mill surly guy. Geum ran, our other main female lead, is kind of a drip. A bitter, mentally unstable drip with a lot of misplaced animosity. She's convinced her circumstances leave her without any choices, but that's not entirely true. There are small moments where I feel awful for her, such as when she talks about not being able to afford college or working at the same bookstore company for years, just to make it from the warehouse to the backroom to the main store to another section of the store. She's meant to be a sympathetic semi-villain, but I'm not sure I feel that sympathetic toward her. Her ex-fiance is beyond vile but he's too cartoonish for me to really hate. What annoys me is the way Geum ran put up with that horrendous, emotionally abusive treatment because this asshole has a bright future ahead of him as a prosecutor. Geum ran's childhood sweetheart/friend Dae bum is written as too nice a guy. He's overwhelmingly passive and comes off as a bit of a doormat. His baby is just ADORABLE, though.
In any case, I've only been talking about the parts I dislike but I've actually been loving the show and Kim Hyun joo's Han Jung won is a really lovable protagonist. The show has dark moments but plenty of light, fluffy fun and laughs.
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annie
March 4, 2011 at 9:07 AM
Thanks for the review, I was wondering whether to watch this because I love the writer's previous shows Who Are You and Really Really Like You, but the length is very daunting.
I might check it out once it's finished airing.
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TOOIZZY
March 4, 2011 at 11:31 AM
@tildy: THANK YOU!!! I was going crazy trying to find out about this guy. (^_^)
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MJP
March 4, 2011 at 8:03 PM
Tildy,
I am so glad to find someone else who likes Twinkle Twinkle/Shining. I like it so much that I watch it RAW and wonder what in the world they are saying. That baby is way to cute! And those outfits they dress the baby up in, adorable!!!
I find it interesting that Song Seung-joon (male lead) seems to be interested in Hwang Geun-ran (second female lead). Since this is going 50 episodes, I wonder how long that will last. I don't think I can take much of it. But since both their characters are a bit negative, they just might fit.
Also, I just love Kim Hyeon-joo as Han Jeong-won
(female lead) she is absolutely perfect for that role!
One thing that I noticed however, was the marked age difference between the two female leads who are supposed to be born on the same mm/dd/yyyy. They definitely didn't look the same age, along with the Kang Dae-beom (baby daddy) character. So I looked up the actors/actresses ages to confirm.
Kim Hyeon-joo is 1978 (female lead)
Lee Yoo-ri is 1982 (second female lead)
Kim Seok-hoon is 1972 (male lead)
Kang Dong-ho is 1985 (second male lead)
Am I wrong in thinking that three of them are supposed to be 30 years old in the show?
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jomo143
March 7, 2011 at 1:15 PM
I am here late to this, but I am struggling with TT right now.
I skip most of it, as the conversations are lather rinse repeat. I can't stomach another father in debt trying to ruin his kids' lives storyline.
Except the scenes with Kim Hyeon-joo and Kim Seok-hoon. :)
I want to kill the guy with the braces. Seriously, he's mean and cheap and insulting.
And the Lee Yoo-ri character is such a baby! She does that "eyes get bigger" thing to show emotion.
Only up to 3 is avail with subs.
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annie
March 4, 2011 at 8:54 AM
I don't know but he's super hot. And he speaks perfect English!
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marteki
March 4, 2011 at 2:00 PM
I''ve been looking all over for him tooo!!!! OMG His english was amazing!...I was like O..EM..G daaaaamn rewind lol
n he's good looking too ;)
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10 Lenita
March 4, 2011 at 7:08 AM
slow week ain't it, kdrama-wise?
i just picked up cyrano dating agency a few days ago, imma watch it tonight, wheee!
also just downloaded the ost for baker king kim tak goo. it's pretty decent music, esp the instrumentals, lots of string action, good for writing reports.
have a good weekend everyone!
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@.@
March 4, 2011 at 7:25 AM
it's a good movie :)
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Ashley Thomas
March 4, 2011 at 7:55 AM
Watched CDA a couple of weeks ago...still don't know how I feel about it. I liked some aspects of it a lot, but then others just felt like they were a little flat. I guess the best way of putting it is that it's good, but I think it could have been much, much better. Uhm Tae Woong is dishy, though! ;)
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11 Flo
March 4, 2011 at 7:10 AM
I have nothing to live for at this moment.. no more dream high... no more my princess.. plus, there's no glee, and vampire diaries this week :( :(
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TOOIZZY
March 4, 2011 at 7:12 AM
Don't say that. T_T Makes me sad! BUT!!!! There are those series to be discovered from the past!! So start the hunt. (^_^)
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angelpur
March 4, 2011 at 9:31 AM
urgh don't remind me about no glee and vampire diaries (seriously theyre both getting SO good). and whats more, gossip girl is off for six weeks =[ even harder to wait for considering what happened last ep!(dair fan!)
why are all these good shows ending/ taking a break at the same time?? now im off to watch the last ep of dream high...
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clichique
March 4, 2011 at 2:42 PM
Really, Glee is getting good? I sorta gave up on Glee because the storyline was going nowhere, but I still listened to the soundtracks. It was like each episode was becoming just an excuse to make Glee versions of certain songs.
I.... am tempted to start Vampire Diaries. LOL. Mostly because I love Ian Somerhalder. IDK, though. My main reason for NOT starting it was anti-Twilight sentiments, so...........
Dair fan? :( :( Chair fan forever and always although I feel like the writers are just trying to sorta villain-ise Chuck and making him rather unlikeable the past several episodes. But I must say the Dair dynamic is interesting, in lieu of the recent, well, dull-ness. From the spoilers I've seen, Chair comes back at the end of this season (which makes sense considering ratings dropped with the Dair arc, and Chair fans really drive the ratings).
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angelpur
March 4, 2011 at 3:58 PM
Well, for Glee, I was really far behind so I marathoned it, and it was good from the marathon but Im not sure about waiting for weeks on end. I'm just waiting for the time that puck and rachel will get together, but i doubt thats going to happen anytime soon. i know what you mean about the songs, and apparently theyve reduced to 5 in each ep. I remember one episode in season one called home or something and I hated every song they played through that ep.
And Yes I do recommend the vampire diaries! Admittedly the first episode was boring, but it gets so much better. And I think they only make fun of Twilight once, but as a passing joke, and that was all.
It's a pretty good show with a fast-pacing plot. Characters are likeable and three-dimensional and Ian Somerhalder's rockin' his role ;) (loved him in lost as well). Some good twists as well that you won't expect and an amazinf soundtrack.
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nonski ⭐️A forever JIN who crash landed on Hyun Bins heart❤️!
March 4, 2011 at 9:49 PM
you should give it a try, VD, tho i haven't started on it myself but both my sis and bro are fun-addicts of it.
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marteki
March 4, 2011 at 2:02 PM
I really thought there would be Vampire diaries this week :(
have You ever seen adventures of new christine?....Its really fun to watch
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12 e
March 4, 2011 at 7:16 AM
i miss crack high sooo bad :(
ohh and who else thinks that DAIR is one of the most exciting things in GG??
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angelpur
March 4, 2011 at 9:34 AM
oh YES. i just saw this post when i posted upove, hehe. I've been searching all over the net for dair related stuff. although ive always been on team dan (he's my fave) ive always loved the idea of him and blair together ever since his storyline withs serena got boring in s2 and blair's storyline with chuch got boring (i used to be such a massive chair fan).
hopefully dan and blair will end up as endgame, but i doubt that will happen because of all the chair fans. but i still hold hope! this hiatus will be PAINFUL.
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angelpur
March 4, 2011 at 9:36 AM
*upove= up above, *chuch=Chuck, sorry for the typos!
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clichique
March 4, 2011 at 2:45 PM
Dair is a fun dynamic, but ultimately I don't feel like it'll last.
Chair fan forever. LOL.
But at least Dair is bringing something interesting with the boringness that has been this past... entire... season? Yeah.
I am pretty sure at the end of the season the writers are going to try to pull something of "going full circle." Like in the second episode of this season, that BEAUTIFUL Chair scene (that made me tear up, I joke not) at the train station. They're going to pull something like that again. I hear there's something about Blair getting engaged to the prince or something (pictures of them at the shootings show so). Yeah.
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angelpur
March 4, 2011 at 3:46 PM
I know what you mean, unfortunately, in that they won't last. But (dair) is the only interesting storyline, apart from Juliet, this season. Really, they shouldn't have taken out Jenny. Or at least given her more airtime. Nate is basically useless without her ( i loved their scenes in s3. I admit I'm a huge jenny fan). I really can't see raina staying with him, or what he sees in her in the first place. And I didn't miss Vanessa at all despite her 5-min appearance.
Yeah, I also heard about the prince thing, but I'm not too sure what they're going to do about that. tbh, I thought the prince was a pretty useless character. If nothing happenes b/n Blair and Chuck I can see Chuck and Serena ending up together at the end of this season...or having a fling out of revenge, lol.
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clichique
March 4, 2011 at 4:38 PM
I agree. This season was total bla. Actually last season was total bla, too. Completely forgettable. A lot of people didn't like season 2, but I personally liked season 2 because we get to see a real Chair dynamic... The chemistry between Ed Westwick and Leighton Meester is just amazing. Although I think some people were talking about whether or not you're a real Chair fan or just a Blair fan and now that I think about it, I probably am just a Blair fan....... But I do like Chair a lot. So, hm.
I can't come to like Jenny after a few of the things she did, but I do appreciate that she spices up the story. You know something is wrong with the writing when Nate isn't getting any girls. LOL. Yeah, Nate is really nice to look at, but obviously he is not important, considering the 2 minute appearances he's been making in each episode now. And Vanessa - never liked her from the beginning. The prince has been pretty blah, as well, and I think in the end he'll just become a plot piece to piece together Chair, I feel. Oh well, not that I'm complaining.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ps182sqPpJY
^ By far my favorite scene this entire season. This is why I ship Chair............... although there hasn't been any Chair AT ALL lately it's been really frustrating. UGH. Chuck!! WHY?!
angelpur
March 4, 2011 at 5:05 PM
@clichique - for some reason the site won't let me reply to your post so I'm putting the reply here ;)
Yeah, I didn't mind season 2 too either. I was still invested in it b/c I still really liked the Dan/Serena and Blair/Chuck pairing. I think, for me, GG started to go downhill during s3, especially around the time when Chuck was selling Blair to Jack over the hotel. Seriously, that was a stupid storyline. I mean, who would do that in real life. And I really hope this arc with Russel Thorpe ends soon, b/c all the storylines that involve chuck and his hotel bore me.
If Dan doesn't end up with Blair this season, then I really want Serena to find out about Blair/Dan and actually put an effort in winning him back. I think most of the time she just uses him and doesn't realise how good Dan is to her (I support Dan/Serena more than Serena/Nate).
Btw, have you read the GG books?
clichique
March 4, 2011 at 11:16 PM
I have read the GG books, but quite a long time ago... I vaguely remember though something about Chuck turning out to be gay? The TV show adaptation takes it way farther than the book and totally diverges.. not that I mind, because there were some good things out of the TV adaptation that weren't in the novels, haha
hookedonmonix
March 4, 2011 at 12:26 PM
Oh wow, now I have something to catch up on. I think I'm probably 4-6 weeks behind, and I didn't much care until now!
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13 Selcaqueen
March 4, 2011 at 7:19 AM
So I have question. Korean culture, or Korean language related. In the drama Temptation of Wife, there's an episode where Goo Eunjae calls her (former) sister-in-law (Jung Soo Bin) "agasshi." Even Shin Aeri calls her that, too. Agasshi means "miss," right? Please do correct me if I'm mistaken. So my question is why agasshi? Why not call her by her complete name?
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myweithisway
March 4, 2011 at 7:49 AM
correct me if I'm wrong but I think it's to be more respectful, all the Oriental asian cultures are not heavy about calling someone by just their full name unless there's a certain level of familiarity or the person being called is younger.
so instead of John Smith, you would say Mr. Smith or something along those lines.
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red_pill
March 4, 2011 at 7:55 AM
It's what you call the younger sister of your husband. In this case, it's the official title.
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Selcaqueen
March 4, 2011 at 9:39 PM
Thanks!
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14 @.@
March 4, 2011 at 7:23 AM
So, I marathoned Paradise Ranch this week and I've watched up to (including) episode 10.
I LOVE IT!
I totally did not expect that. In all honesty, I had no plans to watch Paradise Ranch. Not even just to check out if Changmin would be as good an actor as he is a singer (he's from DBSK, and they are all good singers). And unlike with Dream High, where everyone was raving so much about it, I just had to see for myself, everyone told me Paradise Ranch was bland, and at best okay. However, as My Princess finished last week, and Dream High finished this week, I was wondering what I should see, and some mysterious force drew me to it. Much like with It's Okay Daddy's Girl and Fugitive:Plan B, I don't think many of you will agree with me. As the Spanish saying goes, "de gustos y colores no escribieron los autores" Everyone has different tastes. To describe my reactioon to Paradise Ranch: Dream High was instantly addictive, but It's Okay Daddy's Girl, has a spot in my heart. And Paradise Ranch is sort of warming like that. Changmin looks like a rookie during the first 3 episodes, but he gets into his character later on. I have to agree that rather than the lazy chaebol the character was described as, his character is more like a really nice guy whose pride ges in the way of communication. and that's actually good. Cold heroes have been rather overused lately. And there are some hilarious scenes in the beginnning, but the divorce gets explored more halfway through the drama. The beginning it outward enjoyable, but as it progresses you get invested in the characters more and it becomes more personal, much like Fugitive was initially all flashy and cheesy, but as it went on, you could see the emotion. Anyways, that's my 2 cents on Paradise Ranch. Anyone else like it?
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elle loves kdrama
March 4, 2011 at 7:34 AM
I really like it too. At first I kept watching to find out why the main couple broke up, and then I kept watching for Joo Sang Wook!!! I agree with what you said about getting to know the characters better... I loved that she finally told him some of the reasons why they got divorced in last week's episode.
Since the show seems to be about learning to move on, I secretly want Joo Sang Wook to get the girl, but somehow I don't think that will happen...
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@.@
March 4, 2011 at 7:36 AM
I developed a soft spot for Dong Joo.....
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@.@
March 4, 2011 at 7:38 AM
but I agree about the moving on message. as it's a drama, obviously they don't throw such a message in your face, but it's done in a subtle way that allows you to connect with the hurt that is a breakup and moving on.
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elle loves kdrama
March 4, 2011 at 7:39 AM
True! He is such a cutie :D
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jomo143
March 4, 2011 at 11:51 AM
Ahjussi/JSW is the most interesting character. His ex showing up brought in some dramatic weight that I felt had been lacking.
Eps 11/12 broke my heart because they did a great job portraying the misery of being in an impossible relationship but not wanting to let go.
Like @.@, I somehow started pulling for Dong Ju without knowing it in 12.
I really could do without Dong Ju's father's character. He seems to be adding nothing to the story, exept annoying his son. (which the grandfther could easiily have done) and I don't want his ex-wife to forgive him EVER.
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Lisa
March 4, 2011 at 8:08 AM
I kinda like Paradise Ranch..
But I cant really stand the acting of Changmin and the girl lead (sorry dont her name)..
Thanks to their acting many emotional and/or touching dialogs come to flat.. They dont deliver the feeling..
It a waste of many possibly good scenes..
I wonder what it would be if better actors to play them??
I kept watching only for Jo Sang Wook and to find out who willl be with who, LOL
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@.@
March 4, 2011 at 8:28 AM
really? i haven't seen anything lee yeonhee did before, but i think she pulls off her character with enough charm. changmin's acting is awkward during the first few episodes, but i think he manages to sink into it further in. as for jo sang wook, he's a good enough actor. and yoo hana is gorgeous (sigh) and she's good, although her character so far hasn't done anything major...
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queencircles
March 4, 2011 at 8:36 AM
I'm stuck on episode 3. But you gave a pretty good review so I think I'll keep at it! Thanks!
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diadda
March 4, 2011 at 10:10 AM
As a large cheer squad for this show. I can say that yes I like it! I am Changmin bias but I like it just the same. The acting can be off, the directing can be awful, and the writing has weird weak points, but for some odd reason it all works just fine for me and I walk away with a smile on my face after every episode. So to heck with what everyone else says. I'm happy and I like it. MAX TIME forever.
As to the my main selling points. The cute! All the couples and interactions therein are cute. Not only in bits and pieces but full on disturbingly cute. I like cute like this. The first two episodes are not good. and it is as much horrid directing as anything else, after that it gets increasing better.
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lessaofpern
March 4, 2011 at 10:53 AM
YUP MAX TIME!!!!! I'm loving this drama too!!! It gets better with each episode :D
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@.@
March 4, 2011 at 11:07 AM
Hmmm i disagree. the first episodes have cute and funny moments, but the ones in the middle have more emotional weight.
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MJP
March 4, 2011 at 8:25 PM
Quote: Changmin bias
Hmmm... I think it may be classed as Changmin addiction? Changmin Crack? Changmin Virus?
He! He! Heee!!! :-)
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15 d
March 4, 2011 at 7:30 AM
Anyone watching The duo? Although the main story conflict is birth secret (which is NOT new in kdramas), so far I enjoy watching it.
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angelpur
March 4, 2011 at 9:47 AM
I am! Have only seen up to ep 6, though.
So far, I'm really enjoying it. Although I've heard some complaints about it being slow in bringing the adult actors in, I really like the younger cast =] And I have to say young dwi dong is so funny! I also like chun doong too, although I find dong nyeo's character a bit boring. I much prefer dal yi, I think she's more likeable? Relatable?.
I wonder, when the adult actors do get brought in, if they will be able to perform to the same standard as the younger cast.
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d
March 4, 2011 at 10:47 AM
I love Han Ji Hye that's y I watching this drama, but I agree that I prefer Dal yi's character more..
Gwi dong is cute but I feel so sad for Chun doong! just imagine the person you thought is your mom doesn't admit you are her child..It's so cruel to Chun doong.T-T
I hope their friendship will not be broken when they found out the truth later.
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16 gailT
March 4, 2011 at 7:32 AM
who else is watching New Tales of Gisaeng? I'm finding that I like it although I'm worried about being able to endure through 50 episodes. I'm more of a marathoner...
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snooziit
March 4, 2011 at 7:47 AM
I'm the same! I'm actually liking it right now, but I'm so impatient :/
Even though I think it has a really great storyline developing, I feel the way its edited seems a bit disconnected, doesn't it?
They flash back and forth between people so randomly, and at times, it's just to watch them put away something, or something without an dialogue...
oh well... I still like it :)
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gailt
March 4, 2011 at 12:24 PM
Yeah, I don't think the editing is that great. However, all other elements seem to work for me. People say the 2 actors playing SaRan and DaMo are so wooden, but I feel like the characters are just restrained. Maybe it's the eyes, their eyes are not the most expressive of kdramaland.
Anyway, how do you like the fantasy sequences? I heard those are the writer's trademarks. I especially like the ones regarding SaRan and DaMo. I feel their relationship is so real, and can happen to real non-chaebol people. o_O
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snooziit
March 4, 2011 at 1:47 PM
I can understand why they come off a bit wooden, but I think their little thinking to themselves moments totally makes up for it.... I love how realistic their relationship is and how the characters are so upfront about the fact that they're attracted to each other so early in the game, I know it just means more drama later, but for now, I'm happy :)
The fantasy sequences KILL me... I'd be so ecstatic one moment, just to be so crushed a minute later!
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gailt
March 4, 2011 at 3:16 PM
agree. that kiss killed me too. i squealed with joy and i was crushed the next. haha.
i like that DaMo pursued her and did not leave her by the roadside. DaMo, I think is a sweetheart, even if he has a love-hate relationship with Andreyyy. hehe
17 Meix2
March 4, 2011 at 7:34 AM
Man... I thought it was only me. I'm totally at a lost with kdramas until '49 days' is broadcast... only 'sign' is keeping me sane these days!
Have been going through a major Song Seung-hun withdrawal since 'My princess' which means I've been backpedalling to catch up on dramas with him in that I missed. Currently in the midst of 'East of Eden' *drool* but very meh on the whole plot. (But not as mind blowingly awful as 'Summer Scent' was when I earlier this week).
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queencircles
March 4, 2011 at 8:57 AM
I feel the same way. I'd been keeping busy with kpop though until a good new drama comes on (I'm hoping 49 days is good, I like that concept). I've been watching different variety shows... I just watched running man for the first time the other day, SO funny.
But yea I miss good kdrama. I have a list of shows I need to watch but for some reason I just can't get into it. I started paradise ranch and coffee house, but I can't get past the first few eps. I'm about halfway through Runaway. I should get back on these.
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18 @.@
March 4, 2011 at 7:34 AM
Secret Garden lovers ALERT!
and if any of you are Big Bang fans (like me), well then double treat!
Big Bang is a kpop group that debuted back in 2007. Members in age order are: TOP, G-Dragon (leader), Taeyang, Daesung, and Seungri. They've been MIA from the Korean scene, as they've been busy releasing actual Japanese albums and singles in Japan, a-la- TVXQ (unlike the recycled translated tracks most kpop artists are releasing in japan nowadays) Also they've been promoting in Korea as solos and doing dramas and movies, so yeah... Anyways, they made their comeback last week. Every yea they have a huge concert called Big Show. They always parody a drama, and I am always highly impressed, because their parodies are good quality, make sens,e and are actually funny. Past parodies are Coffee Prince, Beethoven's Virus, and Boys Over Flowers, and you cna find thhem on youtube with subs. Anyhow, this year they parodied SECRET GARDEN!!!! And SBS had a special on them, and they aired the parody as well. So, here's the link, and the video is HD with english subs. It's not my vid or subs, by the way, I'm simply sharing something with everyone. Warning! This is a hilarious video, hardcore, so be prepared. Here you go:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xhaijp_eng-secret-big-bang-secret-garden-parody_shortfilms
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@.@
March 4, 2011 at 7:35 AM
oh, and the plus is they filmed on the actual location for joowon's house, so the scenery is lovely
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myweithisway
March 4, 2011 at 7:50 AM
I saw this, I could not stop laughing: all the kisses *fans myself*
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@.@
March 4, 2011 at 7:57 AM
they've faked their kisses in previous parodies (as in, it looks like a kiss, but it's just the angle)
but i was totally NOT expecting them to do it for real this time- especially not so many times. seungri makes a hilarious permed oska, and daesung made a truly funny eomoni. lol at the fact that g-dragon had to dress in all those women styles ...
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Emeldy
March 4, 2011 at 8:12 AM
I know the vid is a must watch. Hilarious.
Daesung as as the evil mom was epic.
GD looks so pretty.
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snooziit
March 4, 2011 at 7:53 AM
I saw this a few days ago! It really is hilarious!!
I made the mistake of watching it when I was at work... really really bad idea!
Speaking of parodies, I read on Soompi that Ha Ji Won did one herself for upcoming Cass Beer CFs!
http://www.soompi.com/news/ha-ji-won-and-psys-cappuccino-foam-kiss-almost-done
It looks like it'll be really funny too!
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annie
March 4, 2011 at 8:46 AM
OMG hilarious!
Thanks for sharing. I had no idea BIGBANG did drama parodies.
My eyes about popped out at the kisses. Omo!
Also, "G Raim miraculously got up and lived". LOL! Not so different from what actually happened.
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Carinne
March 4, 2011 at 9:16 AM
Saw it a few days ago on Soompi, and I had a ball of laughs. Nicely put together. I like the BB member playing dual roles, the secretary and the mother. ROFL!
Anyone out there listening to Super Junior-M's new releases. I can't wait to see them on their PR tour for "太完美 /Too Perfect."
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queencircles
March 4, 2011 at 9:36 AM
Haha Seungska was epic.
..but daesung... SMELLLL ... awesome. :) love bigbang's parodies.
The cass one was pretty funny too.
I am listening to Too Perfect. I like the song quite a lot. Not really the Korean ver. though.
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Carinne
March 4, 2011 at 12:43 PM
Nice... have you seen their "Too Perfect" MVs?
http://www.youtube.com/sment#p/u/1/adVV-lgBgIg
I dunno, it seems THIS TIME Siwon lost some charisma while Zhou Mi is packing in heat in both KOR and TW versions. Maybe I miss Siwon's Superman-esque features in "Super Girl" much more, or else this new MV can do good losing some road kill accessories. What a turn off! I quite like both versions, especially when the KOR version rewrites a verse using "oh my lady..." that fits perfect when Siwon sings it reminiscing his Oh My Lady days. (cue spa scene: Siwon's half nekkid choco abs)
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MJP
March 4, 2011 at 8:45 PM
I noticed in the video that Siwon is only in it for his singing parts and when they form the semi-circle. Look closely, there are eight men for this SJ-M, but for most of the video there are only seven dancing.
I prefer the flow of the Mandarin vs. the Korean for the lyrics of the song.
j
March 4, 2011 at 9:22 AM
I'm sorry i blanked out after T.O.P *daydreaming* :)
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Viola
March 4, 2011 at 11:06 AM
oh dear! J, you are lucky Brookeve isn't around today, otherwise you would have had to make a run for the airport to book the nearest flight to Antarctica.... daydreaming about TOP....*shakes head* :P
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brookeeve
March 4, 2011 at 11:25 AM
I'm here. (cue Jaws theme song)
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lessaofpern
March 4, 2011 at 11:41 AM
LOL :P
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Ambie
March 4, 2011 at 12:46 PM
hahaha...
MJP
March 4, 2011 at 8:35 PM
Here's the Jaws theme song!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQ_RuxPxMXY&feature=fvst
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G
March 4, 2011 at 9:33 AM
Smellll LOL, I love Daesung.
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Lisa
March 4, 2011 at 9:38 AM
Thank you!
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danna
March 4, 2011 at 10:36 AM
on one hand I'm like die SG die!...on the other hand I'm totally LMAOing....thisis hilarious
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Lenita
March 4, 2011 at 12:44 PM
goodness so funny, it's dawn here and i'm laughing my ass off, thanks for the link!
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ar_arguably romantic
March 4, 2011 at 1:52 PM
The most hilarious part is the guys' reactions to watching their own parody!
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Arhazivory
March 4, 2011 at 3:37 PM
lol. That parody is awesome. Hahahahaha!
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19 elle loves kdrama
March 4, 2011 at 7:37 AM
Dream High might be over, but my personal Pil Suk challenge is still going strong! No changes on the scale this week, but my clothes fit so much better. WooT!
I know a few of you out there were also doing it. Hope you're still doing great! Fighting :D
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@.@
March 4, 2011 at 7:39 AM
did you decide to take up exercising and eating healthy? good for you!
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elle loves kdrama
March 4, 2011 at 7:51 AM
Thanks! It's so easy to buy junk food, so I am learning to cook everyday and make the right choices. It's all worth it.
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Ashley Thomas
March 4, 2011 at 7:58 AM
Down a couple more pounds this week, and my arms have definitely gotten more toned! Also haven't eaten any sugar in nearly three weeks now. Woohoo! Keep up the good work, everybody...we can do this!! :D
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@.@
March 4, 2011 at 8:07 AM
i'm happy you've decided to do exercise and eat healthy, but remember that that doesn't mean you can't have a cake or an ice cream ever...
:)
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Ashley Thomas
March 4, 2011 at 8:33 AM
I know, hahaha...tomorrow is my official 'sugar day'! I'm just trying to take sugar breaks in-between! :)
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elle loves kdrama
March 4, 2011 at 8:49 AM
Besides, ice cream tastes so much better after not having it for a few weeks :D
Ashley Thomas
March 4, 2011 at 9:13 AM
That is sooooo true...after I go off sugar, even fruits taste incredibly sweet! I'm actually enjoying spacing out my sugar indulgence, because i enjoy it so much more when I eat it!
hi
March 4, 2011 at 9:31 AM
Congratualations! I did the no sugar thing as a bet once. It was definitely hard, but worth it. My body felt much better afterwards.
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izocha
March 4, 2011 at 9:05 AM
Very nice! I love the better fitting stage, and the buying cloths down a size is very rewarding, too! Fighting! right back atcha!
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queencircles
March 4, 2011 at 9:39 AM
Good for you! And everyone else doing the same!
Fighting!!
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lessaofpern
March 4, 2011 at 9:47 AM
Aja Aja Fighting!!!!!
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Schmazel
March 4, 2011 at 11:21 PM
What is the 'Pilsook Diet' may I ask? I mean, I know it's the diet that Pilsook went through on DH, but how/what are the details like? Would you mind sharing it with me? Thanks!!
I'm also currently eating way too much junk. Being overseas and away from home food gives me lots (and I mean LOTS) of cravings and I satisfy those cravings by eating chips and cookies and marshmallows. And the consequence of that is my very own Jelly Belly. I need to start eating right and exercising stat!
Hope you continue doing great! :)
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elle loves kdrama
March 5, 2011 at 6:59 PM
I am pretty much in the same situation as you... overseas and away from home, and started developing cravings for junk food. My parents never kept/keep snacks around the house. There is nothing really special about my diet, only that I focus on eating less carbs. Carbs= my downfall... I LOVE bread & pasta and pizza so much!!!!
Anyway, I changed my diet, and added with regular exercise. I just signed up for a 5K for the first time in years, I hope I don't die. LOL
It sounds cheesy, but I am working on a lifestyle change, which at this point is the only I will 1) loose weight 2) keep it off.
Good luck to you!!!!
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Schmazel
March 5, 2011 at 11:16 PM
I absolutely love carbs too! Can't live without 'em. Rice, bread, pastas, noodles and potatoes.
I, too, took a step forward today by buying a jump rope for exercise. It's great if you don't have much time and it can be done at home too!
We can do this! Woot!
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20 mellowyel
March 4, 2011 at 7:43 AM
Hi everyone! Hope you're having a great Friday :) It seems that Kimi Wa Petto is finally getting underway, which is great, though I'm not as geeked about it as I was before. Maybe because Jang Geun Seok has been replaced by Kim Soo Hyun in my affections? Man, I didn't realize I was THAT fickle, lol
On a related note, the realization that there are so many great Korean actors my age just makes the disappointment from MSOAN hurt even more... it could have been fantastic.
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MJP
March 4, 2011 at 9:18 PM
Jang Geun Suk is a taller (182cm=6ft) than Kim Ha Neul (167cm-5'6") the female lead. Apparently, the Momo character should be shorter according to the manga. I saw a picture of them together today.
http://www.allkpop.com/2011/03/korean-movie-remake-of-kimi-wa-petto-holds-launch-event-in-japan
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21 Michelle
March 4, 2011 at 7:49 AM
i find my princess filled with the best eye candy possible. the two main characters are just gorgeous, but i have to say i'm slightly disappointed at the guy's acting. i feel like he never does enough. on the other hand, the princess is adorable. kim tae hee did a great job drawing out her role.
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samgetang
March 4, 2011 at 8:12 AM
Perhaps this man's walk might sway you ;-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ng-jaDzCbYw
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samgetang
March 4, 2011 at 8:14 AM
whatever he's selling...i'm buying (as one commenter in YT so aptly said) :-)
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amberscube
March 4, 2011 at 9:05 AM
Im not interested in what he is selling, Im more interested if He is For Sale. Im first in line.
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samgetang
March 4, 2011 at 9:09 AM
hahaha! we cant afford him...he's much too precious and too in demand...high commodity this guy! ;-) and the line is endless, hehe
samgetang
March 4, 2011 at 9:55 AM
SSH under the sheets...hmmmm....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax4rJ0_jkDY&NR=1
Ashley Thomas
March 4, 2011 at 8:43 AM
Yum.
I got myself through a very frustrating workout yesterday by imagining SSH in various states of undress. Naughty? Yes. Effective? Double yes!
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elle loves kdrama
March 4, 2011 at 9:04 AM
I got through my workout by imagining Joo Sang Wook next to me. The man is HAWT!
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samgetang
March 4, 2011 at 9:12 AM
best motivation to work-out hehe
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jomo143
March 4, 2011 at 10:38 AM
Here's my MV that shows I am completely indifferent* to this man's looks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwybGbmdS4Q
Sorry that I posted this once already. But he really is...beautiful - as much now as when he was fresh faced and in his 20's.
*not
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samgetang
March 5, 2011 at 3:46 AM
good job, jomo! was this yr first MV for anyone at all? wow, SSH should be really honored you went out of your way to make one for him ;-)
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YY
March 9, 2011 at 1:07 AM
Where's the Grandpa mv? Jomo, I'm waitinggggg....
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MJP
March 4, 2011 at 8:41 PM
Jomo!!! Did you see this?
Is that a red underwear band above his jeans?
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MJP
March 4, 2011 at 9:20 PM
Scratch that. You saw it!
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22 myweithisway
March 4, 2011 at 7:52 AM
Finals are coming up and Dream High ended, my life could not be any worse. I think I'll have to rewatch You're Beautiful to cheer myself up.
On the other hand, I'm so looking forward to 49 Days, it has lots of potential (I think) and I hope that it delivers!
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wehelpyou!
March 4, 2011 at 7:58 AM
good luck! Don't screw up by studying at the eleventh hour like me!
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23 wehelpyou!
March 4, 2011 at 7:55 AM
hello everyone! Finally exam week is over!
but it sucks because I screw up my Additional Mathematics and Biology papers....... Oh well omma is gonna kill me, Imma dead meat.
Hmph, how I wish my school life is half as awesome as Dream High.
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@.@
March 4, 2011 at 7:59 AM
don't we all.....
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nynaeve
March 4, 2011 at 8:29 AM
Yeah... Same here. I've got to finish my thesis in 3 weeks, and I don't even have a first draft... T.T
Life sucks...
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annie
March 4, 2011 at 8:56 AM
Fighting!
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lessaofpern
March 4, 2011 at 11:04 AM
HUGS
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24 Ashley Thomas
March 4, 2011 at 8:04 AM
Happy Friday, Open Thread-ers!^^
This week has been crazy...my work has gotten at least 50% busier than it was a couple of weeks ago, and I'm scrambling to keep up. Add to that the fact that I've been editing papers for Korean exchange students nearly every evening, and you end up with one very tired me...
Definitely going to start watching Bottom of the 9th With 2 Out next, as the summary recap sounded appealing. Hopefully it will fill the gap until 49 Days comes out!
Am also considering moving to Dallas to pursue TESOL graduate certificate and Korean language studies...hopefully I'll figure out soon whether or not that's the direction I need to go with my life! :D
Anyway...hope you all had a great week! Anyone have any fun weekend plans??
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leonardswench
March 4, 2011 at 9:46 AM
If you move to Dallas, let me know ... it's been my "back yard" stomping grounds for 20 years. :)
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Ashley Thomas
March 4, 2011 at 1:09 PM
Ok! I'll let you know if I end up heading down that way! :)
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25 samgetang
March 4, 2011 at 8:05 AM
For those missing MP...these might help you with your withdrawal symptoms, hehe, some of their best on-screen and off-screen times together :-)
HeonHee Couple~ Song Seung Hun & Kim Tae Hee
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4dwWzkIFvI
Somebody better do a CF with them both maybe with an MP-esque set-up: to cash in on their recent team-up's popularity and to tide over the fans who cant help but lurk in YT for any and all vids about and of them... :-)
- guilty as charged :-)
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sumee
March 4, 2011 at 9:34 AM
Hello sista ;-) finally caught you ! ;-)
missin MP & the real crack Dram high !
Hope you have been well ~!
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samgetang
March 4, 2011 at 9:57 AM
hi sumee sistah!
really serious withdrawal for MP esp SSH+KTH :-)
whaddya been up to, my dear sistah?
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26 xiaoSxin
March 4, 2011 at 8:08 AM
TGIF.!!!!!
Sunny Happiness is my new crack drama!!! it is because of a certain unni we love. It has caused me sleepless nights and working with panda eyes!!!
It is such a surprise to see Mike He aging so well. HE looks HOT HOT HOT HOT!! and of course to see one breakout Hottie... Li Yi Feng, who is now the current obsession between my friends. But take not.. Ockoala already had the dibs on him! ^^
I'll be watching the last 4 eps today! I promise! Darn errands!!
Hey.. no spoilers! Yes I'm talking about my fellow SH crack dealers and addicts.. mookie, Kender, endodo.. ;)
Have a happy friday all!
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samgetang
March 4, 2011 at 8:16 AM
i saw. i loved. i'm panda-eyed. :-)
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xiaoSxin
March 4, 2011 at 8:25 AM
we can form a Panda Club. I am sure we are not the only ones that ended up having panda eyes while watching SH...
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samgetang
March 4, 2011 at 8:32 AM
Panda Club? count me in pls...
that's the problem when all the episodes are all uploaded and ready to watch, you cant help but marathon-watch. result: panda eyes LOL! :-)
the problem when its being aired while you are watching it is: panda paws LOL! (swollen fingers because of endless refreshing of DB recap and re-watching raw several times til its subbed) ;-)
either way, hard to shake off :-(
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27 nonski ⭐️A forever JIN who crash landed on Hyun Bins heart❤️!
March 4, 2011 at 8:12 AM
this had been the most unexciting week for me..... no drama to follow and perk my senses! nothing to keep my earthly body alive,,,,waaah!
i so miss My Princess and Dream High....I just watched the DH special and have to rewatch the whole series over again...i can't get enough plus no new light dramas around.
thinking of migrating to tdrama or jdrama for the meantime...
in a while i will be starting on the subs of thorn bird, maybe this one will be good...lemmesee...
i miss jb and gf's comments on dramas...
happy friday dramabeanie world!
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28 Carinne
March 4, 2011 at 8:19 AM
TGIF Peeps!
Like some of you, I can't seem to start up any new releases, so I went ahead and shuffled my past collection and start my Kamisama, Mou Sukoshi Dake [aka Gold, Please Give Me More Time] marathon. I still cry when it plays. I hate-love Takeshi Kaneshiro for his awesome hair in that series. Be still my heart.
Here's a song to lighten a heart in a way:
Ellie Goulding - Your Song (Blackmill Dubstep Remix)
http://www.mediafire.com/?r7p6c6qte3d7t6g
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29 annie
March 4, 2011 at 8:51 AM
Hey everyone! Hope you're all doing great.
Currently watching Queen of Reversals after reading girlfriday's review, and unexpectedly loving it! It's both hilarious and heartwarming. Park Shi Hoo is gold. Especially in the scenes with his secretary - they kill me!
Going through a really hard time with my health, so kdramas are keeping me going. They're my painkiller :)
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Carinne
March 4, 2011 at 8:59 AM
Well, here's an *e-hug* from me to squeeze out all the bad qi/ki and keep in all the good for your best health.
Cheers to your speedy recovery!
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annie
March 4, 2011 at 9:05 AM
Aw, thank you! :)
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elle loves kdrama
March 4, 2011 at 9:09 AM
sorry to "hear" you are still not feeling too well (you mentioned that back in January, I believe). Park Shi Hoo should definitely do the trick. Queen of Reversals really is a gem!
Hope you feel better very soon!
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annie
March 4, 2011 at 10:44 AM
Thanks for the good wishes. <3
Yes, things are still rough. But I see some hope recently, so I'm looking forward to better days. And in the meantime, kdramas keep me going :)
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lessaofpern
March 4, 2011 at 11:07 AM
HUGS! Laica, you are in my prayers.
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annie
March 4, 2011 at 12:22 PM
Thanks! *hugs back*
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brookeeve
March 4, 2011 at 11:40 AM
Praying for you! Hope things get better!
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annie
March 4, 2011 at 12:23 PM
Thank you!
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ar_arguably romantic
March 4, 2011 at 1:55 PM
I'm glad the kdramas are keeping your spirits up when you're feeling sick. The medicinal value of kdramas - that's a paper waiting to be published!
Hope you're feeling a little better each day!
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annie
March 4, 2011 at 2:00 PM
Seriously, they're better than drugs (in more than one sense, lol)!
Thanks for the good wishes.
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MJP
March 4, 2011 at 9:23 PM
Aww, I hope you feel better soon.
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annie
March 4, 2011 at 11:31 PM
Thank you.
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30 T
March 4, 2011 at 8:53 AM
Watching Midas just for No Min Woo
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queencircles
March 4, 2011 at 10:10 AM
Any good so far?
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31 Laeah
March 4, 2011 at 9:49 AM
Midas is SOOO awesome. I can't wait til ep 4 and 5 come out!!!:)
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32 Do-ra-ma
March 4, 2011 at 9:50 AM
The Strokes! I can't wait for Angles!
I haven't kept up with schedules lately, but has 49 Days started already? That's pretty much the only upcoming series I have an interest in at this point...
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33 Okie Dokie
March 4, 2011 at 9:50 AM
Does anyone know if anyone is recapping Midas? I'm not sure if DB's going to do it so I'm trying to see if someone else on some other site might be.
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Laeah
March 4, 2011 at 9:58 AM
I know! No one is talking about this drama, but it's so kick ass so far. :( I wish more people would catch on!
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34 @.@
March 4, 2011 at 9:54 AM
Just got back after watching the alst episode of Dream High. I read the recaps already, but I kept putting off actually watching it...so sad it's over. It was definetely a great drama!
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35 marbleloaf
March 4, 2011 at 9:58 AM
is anyone watching "the duo?" it's superb. i wish it had more of a following. i recommend =)
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Arhazivory
March 4, 2011 at 10:18 AM
Really? I've been thinking about it but the plot seems so cliche'd. -_-' I'm still not sure.
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marbleloaf
March 4, 2011 at 10:44 AM
i agree that at first, the plot does seem cliche'd but the acting is really awesome. the children actors/actresses are so compelling and there's something very "peter pan-ish" about the drama. i'm probably not doing a very good job at selling this but i'd give it a shot if you want something less sugary! i must confess though that you've got to give it till at least epi 2. if you end up watching it, let me know how you like it =)
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Arhazivory
March 4, 2011 at 10:50 AM
Sounds like I'll be downloading The Duo when I get home. :D haha. I'll take your word for it and give it a shot, and I'll let you know how it works out. I've been watching a lot of sugary rom-coms anyway, a little less of that won't be so bad. :D
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36 reese
March 4, 2011 at 10:03 AM
Happy Friday Everyone!
I'm officially on Spring Break. One week: to catch up on any dramas; to start new dramas; to study for a psych test...
I wish it was just dramas that I could be watching this week and that I didn't have to study for any tests.
So, what new dramas does anyone suggest?
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Laeah
March 4, 2011 at 10:30 AM
Midas!!! Hahaha
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reese
March 4, 2011 at 11:37 AM
Lol, that one is definitely on my list! =D
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37 Thatgirl
March 4, 2011 at 10:09 AM
I heard Lee Min Ho is going to be in Thorn Birds.... Maybe make a Cameo appearance?
Anyone know anything about this?
Has anyone been watching Thorn Birds? Is it good so far?
Please Let me know. Thank you.
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@.@
March 4, 2011 at 12:25 PM
no clue about a cameo...i know lee minho has lready signed to do the drama city hunter. as for thornbirds, it didn't interest me, so i won't be watching i, but i read the ratings weren't so good...but don't let me discourage you! i have loved dramas others didn't like, so....
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38 Arhazivory
March 4, 2011 at 10:14 AM
Happy Friday everyone. I've been sitting for the last hour in the doctor's office waiting....waiting....and waiting some more. I thought boredom would eat me alive but then I remembered DB. I think after reading all the posts about Queen of Reversals, I'll have to give it a try. I just finished downloading Jumong and Kingdom of the Winds and before I marathon the hell out of them, I guess I should marathon a ligh comedy like QR. :D
On another note, I watched the first episode of Midas last night and I loved it. I'm eager for the subs to come out for eps 2 and 3. ^_^
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Laeah
March 4, 2011 at 10:33 AM
The subs are almost finished! :)
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Arhazivory
March 4, 2011 at 10:41 AM
Yay! \o/
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39 Hairlove
March 4, 2011 at 10:29 AM
Since my crack drama is over I have been watchin strong heart n I find it very interestin n funny anyone know where I can watch this with english subs youtube has a couple of subbed clips but am hungry for more
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ck1Oz
March 4, 2011 at 3:24 PM
http://www.viki.com/channels/1049-strong-heart
and http://pahboohchak.blogspot.com/2011/02/strong-heart-episode-65-big-bang.html
The 2ns link streamed it off this site Rainmaker something.They do SH subs.
Ep 62-65 I think has TVXQ and Big Bang (G Dragon and Sengri) and Kim Dong Wan (Shinhwa) it's so good.
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Hairlove
March 7, 2011 at 6:11 AM
Thank u
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lavy
March 4, 2011 at 7:20 PM
http://z6.invisionfree.com/Strong_Heart_Forum/index.php?act
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40 danna
March 4, 2011 at 10:30 AM
Happy Friday everyone!...I never thought this day would come but it has....I currently have no ongoing dramas to watch and have NO interest in any of the ones that just began.....Though I am watching some old ones and just started Sunny Happiness last night since I'm only 2 eps in and I cant say that I'm addicted or anything though I can see why it can get there soon enough...How is everyone finding the new dramas that aired this week?...namely Royal Family, Midas (I know it started lat week) and Thorn Birds?...anything worth checking out?....I am totallly psyched for 49 days too and am also looking forward to seeing Crime Squad next week.....maybe in the meantime I should get some of the work that I have been keeping off done...I have whole lot of crap to do and can only think about dramas...I wonder if I have gotten past a stage I watch drams for fun or if dramas have become some sort of escape mechanism in my life...food for thought I guess...Anyways have a fun weekend everyone...I should really get sum work done..or maybe marathon all of SH...lol
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danna
March 4, 2011 at 10:34 AM
also who else was totally psyched when Jin Yi Han took over Jun Tae Soo's role in All My Love....I was debating about dropping it because minus the JTS-YSA loveline the drama would loose a lot of its cuteness to me.....but now I'm even more excited than the initial casting of JTS cuz Jin Yi Han totally beats him acting wise and I have been a fan of his longer....lol....though it is going to be pretty wierd seeing him called "Jun Tae Soo"
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marbleloaf
March 4, 2011 at 10:45 AM
i too am looking forward to 49 days and wish to God someone would pick up what's up! as i mentioned before, i'm a fan of the duo.
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41 jomo143
March 4, 2011 at 10:53 AM
Spent the last week watching Gourmet for Kim Rae Won.
Overall, I would say satisfying. The series was consistently good, meaning there was none of the end boredom creep that made me want to rush through.
It was strange to go read the recaps from 2008 because for some episodes there were less than 20 comments. So different from recent DB history!
Actually, I wished it had more episodes because I liked hanging out with the characters. There was some conflict - resolution patterns showing up, but it left you guessing how issues would be resolved.
I could see how US TV would take the OTP and have them travel about meeting new people, making new recipes, solving their new friend's problems, then moving on. Kinduv like a food version of Quantum Leap.
Just started Say You Love Me because I am going to watch all of KRW's shows. Not sure I'm going to like the female leads, though.
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diadda
March 4, 2011 at 12:10 PM
A KRW marathon is something I can get behind and support. AMEN!
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saraha
March 4, 2011 at 8:19 PM
Hey, what KRW drama would you recommend? Is Attic Cat any good? Or What Star Are you From?
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pipit
March 4, 2011 at 9:10 PM
Attic cat is superb. WPAF is also good but there's something about it which I can't quite figure which holds me back from completely falling for it.
@ Jomo:
You know how much I love Kim Rae Won don't you but even that couldn't make me finish Say You Love me. I never fast forward. Never! Not even when I hate the series. But in the hope to find something to redeem it - it's my man's drama after all- I went to the last episode, and found it not to my liking. I hate the soryline! Wonder whether it's possible to hate something so much when you don't even finish it. But strangely that's how I feel about Say You Love Me. I had such a huge expectation and it dissappointed me big time. It's the most hated drama for me. Sad because my love is the lead.
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jomo143
March 5, 2011 at 10:07 AM
SYLM so far is not knocking my socks off.
Reeeeeeeeeeeaaally don't like the females.
With so much else to spend time on, I may give this a pass.
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pipit
March 5, 2011 at 3:14 PM
I know! I so wanted to send them to the antarctic!
Hate the writers too for writing that painful story.
jomo143
March 5, 2011 at 10:05 AM
Agree that Attic Cat is a good watch.
The leads are not beautiful, but endearing.
They are also full of faults and make mistakes.
Supporting cast is good, too.
KRW is compelling when he cannot say what/how he feels. You really experience his pain along with him.
I started this one with no expectations because of DB ratings page and flew through it.
WSAYF -- loved KRW, of course, but I also loved the lead female character for her willingness not to give up what was important to her.
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MJP
March 4, 2011 at 9:32 PM
Speaking of Kim Rae Won, the statistician in me would like to let you know my latest figures.
KRW entered into military service on 8/13/2009 according to Dramabeans.com. If I have done my math correctly, he must serve in the Korean military for 20 months. If that is the case, he should be getting out next month, right? April 2011 would be 20 months from August 2009.
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pipit
March 4, 2011 at 9:46 PM
MJP! I love you! Can we be best friend please?
Hugs and kisses! (Running quicky to prepare a big welcoming party)
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MJP
March 4, 2011 at 10:16 PM
Sure! *hugs* *kisses*
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pipit
March 5, 2011 at 1:24 AM
*marking the day in my com's calendar with a bold italic and underlined pink sentence* Found a new wonderful bestfriend: MJP
*proceed to decorate the page with lots of pink hearts while contemplating about the many secrets to be shared with her*
MJP
March 5, 2011 at 4:21 AM
LOL!!!
jomo143
March 5, 2011 at 10:09 AM
So noted.
Wonder how long before he is in a project after that?
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angelpur
March 6, 2011 at 5:14 AM
Perhaps I should start re-try watching gourmet again. I gave up in the first five minutes of the first episode...which is a shame, because I like all the cast. Is it worth it?
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42 brookeeve
March 4, 2011 at 11:04 AM
http://thundie.wordpress.com/2011/03/02/a-post-with-no-title/#more-13787
I haven't seen that anyone has posted this, but I think that it is important.
We're praying for you, Thundie!
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Viola
March 4, 2011 at 11:10 AM
I am praying for you too Thundie! All of our prayers are with you. Fighting! *hugs*
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jomo143
March 4, 2011 at 11:24 AM
Thanks for posting this here.
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lessaofpern
March 4, 2011 at 11:48 AM
HUGS Thundie! We are all praying for you and Mr. T. Thanks for being part of our lives. Tell Mr. T that we are all doing a group shout out of Aja Aja Fighting!!!!
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Ashley Thomas
March 4, 2011 at 11:59 AM
Will definitely be praying...take care, Thundie, and God bless you...
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elle loves kdrama
March 4, 2011 at 12:11 PM
Praying as well. HUGS~
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Lenita
March 4, 2011 at 12:52 PM
saw that a few days ago. gonna miss her posts, but all the best, hope everything works out for her.
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x0mi07
March 4, 2011 at 2:03 PM
thanks for posting this here. my prayers are with her.
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leonardswench
March 4, 2011 at 5:46 PM
At the edge of the world, where the sea meets the sky, where fear meets love, the soul stands on that cusp on tippy toe, teetering and swaying to the waves and the wind, to the negative and the positive: and there we all are, sending love, prayers, good thoughts, words, wisdom, and hugs, surrounding you with the compassion and courage to embrace whatever awaits on the other side of the edge. Go with God.
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annie
March 4, 2011 at 6:45 PM
<3
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pipit
March 4, 2011 at 9:37 PM
Will pray for the best for them. Hope she can concentrate on her loved one and he could recover soon.
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MJP
March 4, 2011 at 9:39 PM
Thundie and family,
My heart is heavy for the difficult times you are all facing right now. I have prayed for you all today and will continue to pray on a daily basis. Please know that you are not alone, we are all here with you to encourage, uplift, laugh and cry with you all.
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43 kaddictforever
March 4, 2011 at 11:59 AM
Hi Laica,
We are sending you loads of love and a speedy recovery...
I love QOR esp Mr hottie PSH.
I would recommend High Kick Thru the Roof - for laughter and fun, just skip the last episode and you will be fine.
warm hugs ... to all have a wonderful weekend!
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annie
March 4, 2011 at 6:21 PM
Thank you for your sweet comment, 4everKaddict :)
I hope you have a wonderful weekend too!
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44 elle loves kdrama
March 4, 2011 at 12:02 PM
Why, oh, why did I start watching GIANT? Don't get me wrong, it is very good. I was only going to watch a few episodes, to get an idea of what the show was like, but I can't stop watching! HA! Every time I think of skipping an episode, the ending just makes me want to watch the next episode.
I don't usually like dramas that revolve around vengeance, but this one is excellent in so many ways. The acting, the directing, the storylines (the side stories are almost as interesting as the main plot)...and let's not forget Joo Sang Wook! Omo!
Anyone else caught in the GIANT spell?
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Bluefyre
March 4, 2011 at 12:07 PM
No, but I might be...just for Kim Soo-hyun ;)
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elle loves kdrama
March 4, 2011 at 12:13 PM
He is amazing in it! WOW! I am not going to lie, I cried several times...
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Bluefyre
March 4, 2011 at 12:16 PM
Uh....now I REALLY have to be. :D
Thanks for letting me know ^^
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angelpur
March 4, 2011 at 1:43 PM
His performance gave me tingles in giant. kim soo hyun is just complete and utter perfection. Looks, singing and acting ability? *fans self*. I reaally hope he appears in another drama soon so I can stare at him on my computer screen. he was my main motivation for watching dream high.
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Birdie
March 4, 2011 at 2:18 PM
Giant is the drama of 2010. It is such a good production. Too bad it did get recapped here.
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elle loves kdrama
March 4, 2011 at 3:02 PM
Jo Pil Yun is the best bad guy I have ever seen! No redeeming qualities what so ever! (so far at least)
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45 Bluefyre
March 4, 2011 at 12:06 PM
I don't understand what the Stations' deal is with What's Up. It has Big Bang's Daesung in it. They're doing their comeback. It should be hot property right?
Instead they're playing hot cakes with it -.-
I want my New Crack! *whines*
LOL.
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Bluefyre
March 4, 2011 at 1:08 PM
BTW...Happy Birthday to me! :D
Yay for Fridays!
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elle loves kdrama
March 4, 2011 at 2:22 PM
Happy birthday to you! Hope you are having a great day :D
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annie
March 4, 2011 at 6:22 PM
Happy birthday!
And I'm with you on What's Up. :/
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MJP
March 4, 2011 at 9:42 PM
Happy Birthday to you!
Happy Birthday to you!
Happy Birthday dear Bluefryeeeeeeeeeee!
Happy Birthday to you!
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46 @.@
March 4, 2011 at 12:18 PM
YAY for Paradise Ranch! I've now seen until epsiode 12. I can't wait for Monday!!! Now that the couple's past has been explored and feelings are being discovered, I'm totally into it!!!!
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elle loves kdrama
March 4, 2011 at 12:20 PM
I am going to watch it sometime this evening. Right now I am too captivated by GIANT, which I started watching after seeing Joo Sang Wook in Paradise Ranch :D
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47 gailt
March 4, 2011 at 12:29 PM
anybody tried streaming dramas using skyfire for iPad? how is it working for you?
i've been using skyfire for iPod Touch, but i'm having issues with dramafever.
do you think the coming blackberry playbook has potential for streaming?
all i really want is a mobile device where i can watch dramas wherever i want, be it on the bus, at home etc. i'm sure others want this too, but i don't know what devices they use.
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momosan
March 5, 2011 at 7:43 AM
With or without subs? Without subs I'd say use one of the Chinese servers straight on the internet. I'm rather fond of 1qdisk, but YMMV since I use an Android, not an iPad at the moment. With subs, well personally I'd download and use VLC player for iPad.
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gailT
March 5, 2011 at 3:02 PM
thanks, momosan. i'm most interested in streaming subbed flash vids.
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48 Silka
March 4, 2011 at 12:47 PM
Start watching Daemul since Dream High is over.. so sad.. I am in ep3.. though acting is good.. find it quite serious... have someone watch it... and is it worth it to continue?
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Birdie
March 4, 2011 at 2:23 PM
I watched the whole drama.My advice would be find something else more interesting to watch. The plot is weak in parts . Overall it was quite boring. If you like politics and revenge, Giant is a welldone drama.
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angelpur
March 4, 2011 at 5:15 PM
I agree with Birdie. I couldn't even finish Daemul (I think I stopped around episode 10/12. I thought the characters were hard to relate to and I thought the actors overemoted in their acting. Sometimes it went too over the top as well. I second in giving Giant a try.
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pipit
March 4, 2011 at 9:59 PM
I did. And I love it. If only our politicians are like her. If only our President is like her.
Yes it's pretty heavy on politics but it's worth it. Unless your taste run toward the more light dramas.
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49 Ida
March 4, 2011 at 12:52 PM
one thing to say: what a good choice of a song for song of the day. the strokes under cover of darkness is an excellent choice. LOVE that song...
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50 Neimat Ilyas
March 4, 2011 at 12:52 PM
I have serious Dream High hangover....SAM DONG!!!!!!!
Ive been addicted to the OST! Need something new to get hooked onto. I wanna watch something thats fully aired....*gonna go check JB's n GF's dramaratings*
Thanks for all ur recaps...you guys are the best. And the Podcasts....theyre like one of the many drama-discussing-conversations i have with my sister....SO MUCH FUN! =P...love you guys!
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