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Mi-rae’s Choice: Episode 14

I love this family. I could watch them bicker and tease and show how much they actually care for each other all day if I could, because at least Ajumma Mi-rae actually gets through one of their lives. There’s more conflict outside of this family unit, however, as both the broadcasting network and people’s hearts go through a period of transition. And while going back to the future may be fairly simple, it may not be the one our time-traveler hopes to return to.

Le sigh, the numbers don’t look strong as we approach finale week as this pair of episodes clocked in at 4.5% and 4.3%, respectively.

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EPISODE 14 RECAP

After the broadcast, Shin announces to everyone that he’ll be leaving the show and YBS. Putting a pause button on her conversation with Se-joo, Mi-rae chases after Shin to ask him if she’s the reason why he’s leaving, and Shin firmly denies it.

He’s taken aback to hear that Mi-rae has already heard everything from Ajumma. He steels himself before assuring her that he’s leaving to pursue his own success elsewhere—it has nothing to do with her.

Mi-rae asks if that’s why he met with the attractive broadcasting exec then, and when Shin neither meets her gaze nor answers, she accepts that as his answer and concludes that this is the best decision for both of them.

Shin bites his lip before looking up again to say bracingly, “Thanks… for coming to the past, for meeting you, and blocking [it]. Thanks to you, I can live an entirely different life. You take care with Se-joo. I mean it.”

He leaves at that and slumps on a pole outside, where he finds the pretty broadcasting exec waiting for him. They relocate to a rooftop and Shin admits it’s the first time he’s ever taken the time to admire how the lights of the buildings and cars seem like the reflections of the stars that shine so pretty and bright. He’s told to take some time to rest.

Mi-rae returns to a nearly empty set where Se-joo is still waiting for her. He offers comfortingly that Shin stole her thunder with his sudden resignation, and then presents her with a rose in congratulations for her first big break.

Shin’s announcement leaves the production team in low spirits, and Yoo-kyung remarks that it’s too bad he’s leaving since Shin and Mi-rae had such a great dynamic last night, like a longtime married couple. Oh right, I forgot that Mi-rae doesn’t know that you know yet.

Oppa apologizes to Shin outside for giving him a rough time since he was just looking out for his sister. I sort of love their refreshingly frank bickering relationship as Shin says that Oppa never liked him in the first place.

At that, Oppa warns Shin against believing that his hotheadedness will change once he’s at his new workplace or anywhere else for that matter. Shin asks where he’s getting at, but the point is that Shin won’t ever change. Shin dryly thanks him for the advice, and says he found a replacement MC. Why do I get the feeling it’s the rookie announcer?

With that, Shin walks out of the YBS building and turns to look at it for the last time. He thinks back to the memories of his career that transitions to the time spent with Mi-rae, who watches him leave from a distance.

Clocking Mi-rae’s gloomy mood, Se-joo invites her out for drinks later that evening. She asks if he’s ever hurt someone indirectly, and he answers that everyone must at one time or another.

She blinks back tears as she says, “I’ve… no, I haven’t done it. What I’ll…” before giving up, both dejected and confused at how sorry she is to Shin. Me too, sweetie. She puts a hand to her heart, saying it hurts there, but the tears keep coming, and Se-joo silently offers her his handkerchief.

Mi-rae gets some preferential treatment at work, which confuses her until she overhears some employees gossip that she and Se-joo are an item.

Se-joo doesn’t get too much headway in his meetings with the broadcasting executives, who aren’t keen on his plans to change the bureaucratic power system and restructuring their current programs.

Those are short-term changes for long-term results, Se-joo argues, but the businessmen are more concerned about how losing one of their biggest advertisers could lead to more losses.

HA, turns out Shin’s replacement is none other than the rookie announcer with a lisp, and Oppa curses Shin under his breath. And why yes, I totally paused and laughed for a good minute.

I simply can’t take this guy seriously as he talks about “facts” and picks apart Mi-rae’s writing as poorly written for dictation. His eyes grow wide like saucers when Jokey PD whispers the rumor in his ear, and he hilariously turns on a dime, saying they’re just fine.

Mi-rae pulls Writer Bae for a chat afterward and apologizes if it looks like she’s overstepping her boundaries just because she filled in as the main writer once. But Writer Bae asks her if it would be different if Se-joo was ever behind that decision to promote her as such.

What she means is that there’s talk within the company that Mi-rae got to where she is because of her connections. Writer Bae knows better than anyone that it isn’t true, but the words still sting.

We finally learn more about the Black Man, whose purpose is to guide lost time-travelers back to the future. Well, that’s certainly a lot less threatening than a time-travel cop or the like. He stutters that the changes in the present will only take place once they’re back in the future, and when Ajumma pleads for more time, he whimpers, “How much?” Poor guy.

That takes Ajumma back to the dating agency, where this time she’s looking for a match for Oppa. Aw, that’s sweet. I love how she flips through the candidates and sighs that they all look the same (ha) and asks to find someone who’s nice and a good cook within a week.

She tells Oppa to come home early so that she can cook him dinner. She frowns to hear that he’ll get surgery done once the new guy is settled in, which is after she’s gone. She worries that nobody will be here to take care of him, but he reassures her that it’s a simple procedure. Aww, I just love these two together.

Ajumma then drops by to see Mi-rae to ask if she’s happier now than working at the call center. Mi-rae is still miffed, but flatly answers that she is, which is enough of an answer for her.

Then Mi-rae asks why Ajumma hasn’t returned to the future yet in a reality where she and Shin will probably be living as strangers. Ajumma figures that’s true, but she honestly doesn’t know what will happen, an answer that confuses them both.

Mi-rae: “Aren’t there other time-travelers who have returned to the future before?”

Chairman Lee scolds her grandson at home that what his employees care most about is getting a paycheck. If they end up protesting about their pay, she’ll have no choice but to remove Se-joo from his position, long-term goals be damned.

Furthermore the other companies are still coming to her to take care of business issues, which means he holds no authority in their eyes.

Se-joo returns to his office to find Yoo-kyung waiting for him. He’s surprised and disappointed when she asks him to pull some strings to get her the MC position because what should have been an impartial audition turned out to be rigged.

Her point is that there needs to be an action behind the words for real change. And if he hasn’t realized that yet, then he’s still a young master; as in, people won’t take his authority seriously.

Se-joo calls Mi-rae in hopes to see her to lift his mood, only to be told that they shouldn’t be seen together so often in the workplace. She does tell him that they can meet outside of work, and he says there’s someplace he’s always wanted to go.

Next thing we know, Mi-rae comes home with Se-joo in tow, much to Ajumma’s shock. I love that she hisses at Mi-rae that she should have said so earlier, like any mother would and sets out a fantastic spread while saying modestly that she hasn’t prepared much.

It cracks me up how Oppa heaps praise on Ajumma, talking to her in banmal for a good minute before realizing his mistake. Though Se-joo initially finds it odd, he doesn’t think much of it, and it isn’t long before they enjoy a pleasant meal like a family.

As Se-joo sits in Mi-rae’s bedroom, he look around in awe until Mi-rae drops the bomb that she’ll be transferring job soon. He asks it’s because of him, but she answers that it isn’t; she’s grateful for the support both her brother and Se-joo have given her, but she realized she’s still the same person from when she first started.

Se-joo understands, telling her that the old him would have tried to convince her to stay, but now he just wants her to be happy.

Then Se-joo tells her that he had an especially rough day today and heard words that cut him at the heart. He had wanted to run away, but then realized there wasn’t anywhere he could go. Oddly enough, coming to her house made those awful feelings disappear.

Lying on her bed, Se-joo says that her room is just as he’d imagined it—small and cozy. Her parents must have been good people because her house smells warm and inviting. He then closes his eyes to catch a few winks, and Mi-rae gently tucks him in.

How much do I love that Oppa and Ajumma Mi-rae have the TV turned on for no reason while looking anxiously at Mi-rae’s bedroom door? Ajumma asks him to free up his schedule so that she can take him somewhere tomorrow.

Then we see Shin sitting in his car parked outside the YBS building, trying to convince himself that he’s made the right decision. He sighs that all he did was to go to and from work this entire time: “How is it that I don’t have anywhere else to go?”

The Pandora Box team gets the good news that they’ve passed their evaluations, and it seems it finally gives Oppa the freedom to pursue the documentary show he’s always wanted to do.

He decides to stay where he is, and simply asks that someone fill in for him for a few weeks while he recovers from surgery and that it stays under wraps.

Oppa then takes Shin out for a fancy celebratory meal and asks how he’s been doing. Shin says he’s even more busy nowadays enjoying his break and tells Oppa to quit too if he’s so jealous, and then realizes, “Ah, that’s right. No one wants you.” Pfft, these two.

Oppa says that’s true, but whatcanyado when you’ve got cancer. Well now. Shin doesn’t believe it at first, but he’s shocked to learn that it’s true, as Oppa sighs that he kept it from Mi-rae the first time around and lied that he was going to Europe for vacation when he was actually getting surgery.

It’s hilarious how Oppa practically cringes at Shin’s concern, showing him the goosebumps forming on his hand, but gruffly thanks him anyway because now he can get treated.

Shin is called out by the attractive broadcasting VP just then, who takes him out shopping for work clothes, but really just ’cause she wants to. He points out that it’s usually the other way around where a man takes a woman out instead.

Cut to: Se-joo telling Mi-rae to pick out anything she likes. Mi-rae says that she finds this gesture burdensome… then subverts the trope on a dime, saying that she’s always wanted to be on the receiving end of a shopping spree. Ha, I love her.

She warns him not to regret it and runs off, but it isn’t long before Se-joo notices Shin and his not-a-date in the same mall, and he hurriedly ushers her out of the store. She jokes that rich boys are worse, and then suggests they go somewhere she usually shops at.

That leads to an adorable outing as they explore the streets together. While trying on a coat, Se-joo says that he wanted to treat her today, and she jokes that it’s for another man. He actually deflates at that, “Another guy? Who?” Aw.

She clarifies that it’s for Oppa, and he smiles to hear that she cares for her brother so much. She offers to buy something for Se-joo too, and then adds there’s one more thing she needs to get.

Speaking of Oppa, we see him suited up as he arrives at a restaurant with Ajumma. Turns out it’s for a surprise blind date, and it’s cute how she practically has to pull his leg to go through with it.

Ajumma then calls Shin out to inform him that she’ll soon return to the future. She warns him not to sign with the other broadcasting network because of the vice president and the chairman’s son, whose name she doesn’t recall.

Shin tells her not to worry because although he’d been told that he’d never change, he decided he must and take notice of others. To that, Ajumma says that although they didn’t have a happy ending, Shin was still a decent man.

She was the one who was lacking, Ajumma reasons, and she’s come to the conclusion that perhaps she was trying to prevent Shin from marrying her, not the other way around.

Looks like Oppa’s blind date went pretty well given his giddy state at home. Mi-rae arrives and casually drops her gifts onto the table, which includes matching bags for her and Ajumma. Aww.

Touched, Ajumma walks into Mi-rae’s room to thank her in person, and then tells her that she has to take good care of Oppa once she’s gone. Ajumma suggests they take a family photo together, and I love how they bicker like family as the timer ticks down to take a candid photo.

They laugh as the women insists they take another whereas Oppa says that it’s fine. And then they sit down for a real family photo which is just downright adorable.

The NTN chairman immediately disapproves of Shin, to which the vice president (aka his daughter, go figure) aegyo-pouts in retort. Shin asks the reason why, and the chairman replies that he doesn’t like the smug look on Shin’s face. There needs to be a give and take in this offer, and he’ll keep a close eye on Shin to see what he has to offer.

As Shin reviews the contract, he takes notice of a particular clause that states that the early termination fee amounts to twice the contract fee, which is a pretty hefty sum. At that, he recalls Ajumma’s words at how he ended up to his ears in debt because of it.

Writer Bae informs Mi-rae that she’ll be transferring departments and is saddened to hear that Mi-rae will be leaving YBS herself soon.

At the same time, Se-joo arrives at a fancy party and walks up to the NTN vice president whom he seems to be on friendly terms with. He mentions that she looks happier lately, and she coyly smiles back that she’ll introduce him to her romantic interest when the occasion arises.

The Pandora Box team goes out for drinks and it’s not long after Se-joo joins their party that they laugh and enjoy themselves. The joyous atmosphere has Mi-rae think back to when Shin had joined them.

Se-joo walks Mi-rae back, using the classic I’ll-just-walk-with-you-just-a-bit-further excuse, which makes Mi-rae laugh. They suddenly stop and stand there, and we see them holding hands. He asks if she’d like to sit for a minute.

At the same time, Ajumma casts one final look at her home before she follows the Black Man in silence. They stop outside a different elevator than she took to travel to the present, and despite his explanation that it’s an upgraded model, I get this uneasy feeling in my stomach.

She asks to make one last phone call, and tells Mi-rae that she doesn’t regret her plan to get her together with Se-joo in the slightest before hanging up. Needless to say, it leaves Mi-rae confused, but then she recounts the story of how she first met Ajumma to Se-joo, and how it landed them in Jeju Island.

She shies away in embarrassment at that part, and when Se-joo urges her to continue, she says she recalls that she went into the ocean for a nightly swim, but doesn’t remember what happened after that.

She belatedly learned that a mysterious man had rescued her and she has yet to find out who he was. Se-joo asks if she isn’t curious as to who her rescuer is. “He’s here,” he reveals. “Right in front of you.”

Meanwhile, Shin walks into the empty news station set and sits down in the anchorman position when the vice president enters. He agrees to the contract, effectively accepting the position as a NTN main news anchorman. Nooooo!!

It should come as no surprise that the Black Man utterly fails when it comes to stealth as he reassures his boss that Ajumma has come quietly and has no idea that the future of present Mi-rae is completely different than her own.

He’s also hilariously incompetent as he rifles through his notebook of time codes, blurting out that this is essential for them to return. So Ajumma snatches it out of his hands and demands an explanation as to why nothing’s changed.

Now the Black Man finally provides some answers: Nothing in Ajumma’s life will change by altering the present because she opened the door to an alternate time-space reality the moment she set foot here. In other words: “Everything you’ve done was pointless.”

Ajumma Mi-rae chucks the notebook and runs out as the elevator doors close in front of him. At the same time, Shin is told to sign the contract while Se-joo slips off a ring from his pinky finger. “Will you accept my feelings, Mi-rae?”

COMMENTS

Er, I’ll be honest—I’m still trying to figure out what kind of romantic proposal would include the world’s tiniest diamond ring and it’s so teensy that I can’t even tell if there IS a diamond. I’m hesitant to call it a marriage proposal at this point and think it safer to concern myself with the state of Se-joo and Mi-rae’s feelings and emotions.

Much like the future (to which I’ll get to in a minute) I can’t help but think that their hearts haven’t changed either—Se-joo still likes Mi-rae, who still has lingering feelings towards Shin. So while I enjoyed watching their adorable outing which displays their easygoing chemistry, it’s because of these feelings whereby I feel sorry to Se-joo to a certain extent that that hand-holding is more platonic than romantic. Se-joo’s decision to keep liking Mi-rae whether Shin is in the picture or not is his own choice, but Mi-rae also allows herself to be in his company, keeping that door open for Se-joo to continue to try to win her heart.

Now that we know for certain that the present and reality we’re in now follows the parallel universes theory, this revelation both provides answers and adds more questions than before. On one hand, it explains how we don’t see any correlative changes such as Mi-rae’s ankle injury in our other Mi-rae nor do we see any corresponding character growth in her as Mi-rae grows a spine for herself, along with two very different diaries depicting two different realities. And because the viewers were allowed to witness this unfold, and I’m assuming that this isn’t the first time-travel story for any of us, we could come to the conclusion that the future remains unchanged all on our own, eliminating the effect of surprise.

On the other hand, if Ajumma Mi-rae had questioned why the changes affecting Mi-rae weren’t affecting her, we’d be dealing with a rich mine of conflict separate from the emphasis to see Mi-rae married to someone else. I’m sad that we didn’t get to explore this area and rather left to wonder what other somewhat minor (but probably important) piece of information about the future that Ajumma has forgotten this hour. And now that Ajumma has skipped on the opportunity to return to the future voluntarily, there’s a part of me that wonders what will become of her now or if she might just take her meddling even furth… oh who am I kidding, she’s going to keep meddling.

On the upside, I love her relationship with Oppa and how she possibly changed his future for the better. Either I must have missed the part where he told Ajumma that he had cancer the first time or the order of that reveal felt clunky. In any case, I love that he’s frank about his intentions to protect his sister to Shin. Then I died laughing when he was speaking to Ajumma in banmal, to Se-joo’s shock. His character provides most of the heartwarming moments in this series and acts as the cornerstone to this wacky family.

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Question: Does this get better or should I drop it finally? I stopped at ep 6!

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keep watching. But allow for a lotta frustration

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Lol, that's not very convincing at all. You just basically told him/her to drop it, hehe.

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oh gee. I'll just say it's pretty good on the whole.

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@DayDreamer - I thought Carole was being very honest :). You can still like something but find parts of it very frustrating.

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I've enjoyed watching it. Yeah, there are slow parts and some gaps in the plot, but I really like Mi-Rae and Se Joo together. I know Shin and Mi-Rae are cute, but their personalities, or Shin's personality, rather, end up getting both miserable. So I'm all for Se Joo!!! I know he's second and he won't get the girl, but I think she's crazy. He's a great guy who seems to actually learn from some of his mistakes and learns from others. And as the cherry on top, he's uber rich!! :) C'mon, whether you dream of being rich or not, it's just a nice bonus.

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It depends what you're looking for. If you want romance, comedy or a coherent plot, then stop now, and don't waste your time with this drama. If you want to see talented actors work with very well-written characters and do their best with an incoherent, clueless script, then keep watching. If you want to see a hateful, malicious, irredeemably selfish and vindictive side character ruin four leads' lives for nothing, then keep watching.

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It doesn't get any better. I'd drop it if it there weren't only 2 episodes left. I'm only finishing because LDG and because I've wasted this much time, I might as well finish it.

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Stopped watching it after episode 7 or 8. Cant really remember. I would say the actors are very good but the story pulled the bolts out of my head and I completely lost the plot. I just read The summary on dramabeans.

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Just wanted to ask - why is it weird to Se Joo that Oppa uses banmal with Future Mi Rae? I'm confused about where they stand in terms of knowing her real identity.

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Se Joo was told by FMR that she is from the future. Even Yoo-Kyung told him. But he dismissed it. So, he does not believe it. That is why he was confused since FMR is clearly older than Oppa.

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I think you should continue watching. It's really well made with great acting by all. I really like this tv series....it's heartbreaking and sometimes frustrating (Shin's and Mi'rae's relationship) but I've enjoyed it. I really hope they get a happy ending!!!

I can't understand why the ratings are low. Btw, I stopped watching The Heirs...

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Totally agree. I think there are some issues with regards to the "time travel premise" but overall I like the storyline, YEH is a good actress, the dynamics between the actors and the characters are great and JYH has improved as an actor. I have dropped HEIRS too... that storyline was just going nowhere fast... errr slllllloooowwwly. But my drama for this year would be reply 1994 and Empress Ki -- which is fast-paced and fun :)

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I agree, these actors are good and that is the only reason I keep watching, because I like all three leads. Show is frustrating because it could have been written so much better, there was so much potential, but I feel like they completely evaporated those opportunities. I also dropped Heirs, I am a fan of LMH but that show is a mess. My favorite this year is Master's Sun hands down, great writing, great acting, all together awesome show, and it will definitely continue to be one of my favorite shows.

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You might want to reconsider and give Heirs another chance. Right now, it has picked up steam and really hit its stride starting with Episode 10 - Present (Episode 15).

Heirs definitely has flaws and is far from perfect. However, there are characters worth discovering and moments worth watching. Heirs requires patience and is not for everyone. But for many of us who have stuck with it, we are now being rewarded.

Episodes 1 - 9 are full of slow and uneventful moments with minimal dialogue and lots of actions by the characters to take in visually, multiple verbal and “physical” confrontations, that buildup at a snail’s pace.
Around Episode 10 the slowness starts to dissipate. Episode 12 is a pivotal and emotional turning point for many of the characters and plot.

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So true... Keeping patience with Heirs is really paying off...Of course the story line is not perfect but because of the great acting by such a star studded star cast, you keep craving for more. There is not one single actor in that show who is not doing justice to their role :D!...Its a complete treat for LMH, Woo Bin and Shin hye fans like me :D!

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I feel the same way as you! Except I still watch the heirs.

I was actually shocked that this drama has really low ratings.
I really enjoy it.

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I have yet to finish ep 6, but here I am, currently reading dramabeans because I am also pressed for time. Though the show has been very complicated, I still enjoyed reading this.

I don't understand too why the ratings are low. Yeah, sure, the story had become incoherent, but if you can just get the gist of the story, you will understand the plot itself. ANd it makes this drama worth watching than "Heirs."

I am a total YongShin fan, I like Park Shin Hye and Jung Yong Hwa together, but seeing Yong Hwa act in a drama without Shin Hye is also fine with me. Only that, I don't like "Heirs" for its overly used plot, despite the stellar cast and the expensive production. If I were to go for a high-school plot with a rich boy and a poor girl in the mix, I'd say, "Boys over flowers" is still the best.

As for Mirae's Choice, I gotta see who Mirae chooses in the end. Makes me want to hold on to this drama.

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To me, this is a filler episode but I'm okay with it.

I'm still a bit confused about the part that Ajumma's life won't be changed even if she changed the present. Did she just travel to a parallel world? Is this even her life to begin with?

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Yeah I'm confused too, seems like a writing takeout, disappointed in it. I mean, what was the whole point of it all? does this mean Shin won't be saved in the future?

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*Fakeout

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I'm not quite sure if it was a fakeout. Anyone notice the easter eggs that has been peppered throughout the drama? There have been post-its with notes saying about something. Here's one: http://forums.soompi.com/discussion/2019702/current-drama-2013-marry-him-if-you-dare-%EB%AF%B8%EB%9E%98%EC%9D%98-%EC%84%A0%ED%83%9D-yeh-bts-on-p395-ldg-bts-on-p404/p354

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That's interesting. I obviously can't read Korean nor was attention drawn to these notes here so it's a bit of a pleasant surprise.

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There are theories about multiple and branching parallel universes that say that whenever a decision is to be made, the universe splits to two consisting of the two different scenarios. There was this fictional book called Timeline when the characters traveled through a wormhole to a parallel universe set in the past so it's all very confusing.

And I was also wondering about this thing call the grandfather paradox, which basically means that if you go back to the past and change things, your future supposedly improves, which then gives you no incentive to go back in time anymore, and it goes on and on... From the start I was quite skeptical about the premise of the show, because many physicists have proposed that changing the past is impossible.

I have no idea what the scriptwriter is going to do from now. I think the expected type of ending would be that Mirae and Shin still goes together, but their future is a lot happier than how it's supposed to be. But then, he/she will need to ignore all the time travel paradoxes.

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I think there have been enough clues from the beginning that we can assume the writers always planned the parallel universes premise. That being said, it does seem like a cop-out, because if this was all for nothing - then why the show? What's the point? How do the characters grow, if they do? Hopefully the ending can bring it home.

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For sure Shin learned his lessen (I doubt he'll sign the contract) and now that Ahjumma realizes, that her past will not change she might tip off Shin and young Mi Rai, because they really love eachother and now have a chance to live a different live together.
It wouldn't be Ahjumma's live, but the other, young Mi Rae would have a chance for happiness. Their reality is different than hers, as the key manager in the new broadcasting company is now a female, in Ahjumma's past it was a guy.

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I did not quite get that part. From what I recall, at one time FMR had mentioned that the VP was a son, but now it looks like a daughter - how did that change come about? Or did I miss something?

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I think it was a hint toward a changed reality. They didn't explain it till now, but I'm sure it will come up in the next ep.

*lesson / each other - How I sometimes wish we could edit our posts...

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I think that the parallel timeline part is a bit disappointing, at least as it stands now. I think our only hope now is that the code book that the time cop guy has can send her back to .. where?

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There is planning and there is planning. One could do the first draft of a story and then find out one's ending and then go back and tweak a little -- in this case by adding the post-its. IT doesnt mean writer went back and really did a good solid second draft. If she did, she would've noticed all her glitches...like disappearing guard from Miranda etc.

Also, aparently even though Future Mirae didnt change her own llife she managed to create the parallel universe for her other self. The Time Guide doesnt say the parallel universe always existed but that when Future Mirae decided to go back in time THEN the other parallel universe spun off. So...in some ways Future Mirae is a Time Lord Creator type. Current Mirae would not have existed if Future Mirae had not gone back to the past.

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I imagine the point is in fact that what Ajumma was doing is pointless for herself, because we now know that she and the Mi-Rae from this timeline are different people, starting from when Ajumma used the time machine. This *is* the future now for Ajumma, and she's been messing with the life of someone else who isn't her and affecting everyone's future but her own. That's gotta be crushing for her to realize.

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"I imagine the point is in fact that what Ajumma was doing is pointless for herself"

If that is the case -which I agree the drama supports - then it seems really dark and nihilistic. Regardless of what is happening in this parallel universe, we now know that in the original world, Shin committed suicide and there's nothing that can be done to change that. Since this was the point of all of ahjumma's efforts, it still makes the drama very disappointing overall - at least for me.

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I assume that it's a divergent time stream rather than a single one. That way, when she went back time split. That way, although she's affected current Mi Rae's timeline, hers remains unchanged.

It fits into the multi-universe or branching universe hypothesis.

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When she traveled back in time, it created a parallel time/space line. Kind of like a tree limb branching out. So even when ahjumma goes back to her time, her future hasn't changed. Her life hasn't changed. There is another Mi-Rae who had a different life (one in which she got visited by Ahjumma), but hopefully living a better life. So in the end, she didn't change her own live, but just made another Mi-Rae live a different life.

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actually, if the older mi rae goes back to her own life, she might face the 'new' life for herself... since she has changed history by affecting the younger mi rae's life... hers should change in accordance...isn't it?... but the black man said that the older mi rae isn't changing the fate of the younger mi rae... might mean 2 things:

1) nothing changes. younger mi rae will still get together with shin... and JYH will still get together w yoo kyeong.

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2) that younger mi rae is going to get together w JYH but JYH becomes a poor man in the future (the new shin)... and poor mi rae will still have a hard life in future.

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I thought it was a bit vague when he said that nothing was changed - for who? For MR or FMR, or both?

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I think if you watch "Back to the Future II", Doc Brown explains the whole alternate reality best. (even using a chalkboard as graphics)

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*sighs deeply*

I swear this drama was really good before it reached episode 7. :(

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hmmm, i stopped watching this for a while but since i admire the cast....., i tried to catch up with the story... the previous episode was good, but this week it's confusing in the end... hmmm, i dont' know if i still want to watch it next week... =(

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I have no complains. I love the Sejoo scenes with Mirae. Although I do feel sorry for Sejoo. He should NOT be showing grand gestures of love right after Shin leaves.

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Sj is so clingy. Give her room to breathe. How can anyone think it's appealing to go after a girl right after her heart was broken. It was okay until the ring. Just NO. I won't even feel sorry for him when he's rejected for the 3rd time. This episode was mosly pointless. Two more to go and then I can try to forget I spent my time on this

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I really don't understand what the black man said that everything ajumma mirae done is pointless, does this mean that nothing will change in the future like shin will still die or everything in the future will be completely different?

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And you would think that someone from the future would have a better place to keep notes than in a ragged notebook. And when he said that nothing has changed, did be mean for FMR, or both?

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The bumbling anchorman with a lisp cracks me up! I wish we had more of him. I laughed so hard when he was trying to mimic Kim Shin's usual speech about 'facts' and such.

I wouldn't say it's that it's a really bad drama. It actually enjoyed it, despite it flaws, and even though there were times where I wanted to through inanimate objects at my screen. The premise of the story is interesting, and the actors and the characters they portray are great as well. The execution, though, was poorly done.

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I like most of the characters, but some of the plot devices used kept diverting my attention away from them.

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Now im waiting for the evil Miranda to step up and get in the way of Sejoo and YK. Cause we need an evil mother figure opposing a love match. But its possible Miranda will be wise and shrewd enough to know what her grandson is really about.

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I'm confused too, but if i stop it here.. i will become more confused ha5. Everything will clear at next episode or the end of episode, i guess. Come on, 2 more to go!
I am just curious how the end episode will fix everything messy here ;)

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Is anyone else banging their head against a wall everytime Se Joo enters the scene? For god's sake man;back the eff off. He has the crappiest timing ever. He stopped being the second lead we root for and has become a complete nuisance. Don't get me started on Shin. Actually...HELLO. CAN YOU START BEING A REAL DRAMA HERO PLEASE. Okay, you can have those moments of noble idiocy. We also allow you act stubbornly at times. But mate; it is time to man the hell up. In terms of romance.

Summation: Se Joo, please leave the building and Shin, you gotto kiss de girl.

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I thought he already let go of Mirae, too, and now he's back? I wish we had more Shin-Mirae moments in this episode. I don't even care if they just stare longingly at each other from afar.

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Yeah , I love the Shin-Mirae moments , we should've had more of them instead of so much of her and Se Joo.

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OMO!!!

One of the things that bothered me about this show from the start was the lack (or total absence) of time travel rules. Why didn't FMR's diary entries change in accordance to the events that they altered? Why does she not have a scar from when Mi-Rae burned herself?

So now we get the answer. When the slowest time cop in the whole wide world said that everything FMR did was for nothing ... that it didn't change anything in her future ... that it just gave present Mi-Rae a parallel timeline or an alternate reality. I thought, there it is. The rules they purposely didn't tell us because those are the loose ends that they're going to try to tie very neatly to give the drama a nice ending.

When Shin decided to sign with the other network, I thought, "Good for him!" Whether or not he will actually die in the future doesn't matter anymore because he's made a decision to move on, even if it was half-heartedly. It might not have been what he wanted, but I think he will get his happily ever after. Eventually. Even if it wasn't with Mi-Rae. Because in the real world, I think that is what most people will want. A chance to change something if we can, especially if the alternative is dying. I would be a hypocrite if i say I didn't have regrets, that there isn't anything in my life that i would change. But this is K-drama land and anything can happen - like amnesia, or the possibility of any of our pairs being siblings, LOL. I just hope that they give everyone a chance to move on. Like friend-zoned Yoo-Kyung (who demonstrated the most that she's got her head screwed on properly), who decided to let Se-Joo go.

Another thing I'm really hoping for is that Mi-Rae chooses Se-Joo. Yes, I am biased. But it would be really nice. After episode 14 - with the shopping, hand-holding, and Jeju confession - I will be seriously pissed if it's just a consolation prize. I am crossing my fingers that the show didn't just throw us bones. Because that will be like your boss saying, "I'm giving you a paid week off because you're going to be laid off at the end of the month." LOL. That will worsen my Second Lead Syndrome :( Besides, why choose Shin anyways? I get it that he was the mentor, that he was sweet underneath the robot-like front, that he was that guy that changed for the girl .... but other than that? Sorry, but I don't think there's anything deeper. Se-Joo on the other hand was her friend. The one who came to her rescue a lot of times. They laughed with each other, were comfortable around each other, and would most likely be together if Mi-Rae didn't have it in her head that she was going to marry Shin in the future.

So now we wait. Maybe FMR goes back to her future - without husband and son - armed with more strength to deal with things that she can't change. Maybe she traveled back in time not to change the past/future, but in order to change herself so she can live in the present. I still have a lot of questions, but I guess I'm just going to wait for the last 2 episodes before getting worked up over all the possibilities.

But really, show. There's 2 more hours left. Just give Yong Hwa the girl. I mean, what was the point of creating a new breed of second leads, making the chaebol as likeable as the boy-next-door if you're just going to yank the rug from under our feet and making us wonder why the heck are we sitting here on our bums crying?

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@raineedays (great name, and very appropriate since it's been pouring for 24 hours here):

I agreed with everything you said about SeJoo-Mirae, but you know it's just never going to happen. Spare yourself the sorrow and give in now :). It's just one of those immutable Laws of K-Dramas that the second lead never gets the guy. I actually think the drama producers shoot themselves in the foot by giving them lots of sweet scenes together showing how compatible they are (not even in this drama, especially, but overall). It's just one of those things that, like arrogant chaebol first leads, evil interfering parents, back hugs, and drunken piggyback rides, will probably always be there.

“I’m giving you a paid week off because you’re going to be laid off at the end of the month.”
Ha! Awesome. And a great analogy.

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It's just frustrating. And now i guess we see why this show's ratings are dismal. Despite the "magic" of time travel, the drama IS predictable. So now what? They'll have FMR try to get Shin and Mi-Rae back together because all the manipulation she's done was futile anyways? Everyone goes back working in Pandora's Box? I hope the writers don't take the easy (lazy) way out and just fast forward five years later when everyone's had their happily ever afters.

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People can complain and get frustrated about Park Se-Joo pursuing Na Mi-rae all they want. However, no one can deny that Se-Joo loved (liked) Mi-rae enough to "put a ring on it." He obviously subscribes to the message from Beyonce's song "Single Ladies (Put A Ring On It)."

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Noble idiot Shin is even more frustrating and annoying. I get that he's running away from Mi-Rae to avoid their tragic future together, and kudos to him for making that heartbreaking decision, but dude! You are already equipped with the knowledge of what causes your downfall. While jump in that hole? That kind of self sacrifice is stupid. It kinda defeats the purpose of being given a chance to change what could have been a very ugly outcome in the future.

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Exactly! People are so fixated with the idea of Kim Shin-Mirae being "fated lovers" that people fail to see his flaws especially when it comes to Mirae. Kim Shin himself is the reason why the OTP are not together. Maybe when he stops moping around, and fight for Mirae, I can actually feel frustration towards Park Seju. But at this point, no. Kim Shin is the one frustrating me.

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So if the past can't be changed.... why is future MR running to get to present MR?

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I think it's Future Miraes past that cant be changed. So Future Mirae is going back (I think) to tell Current Mirae that there is a chance her life will be better in this parallel timeline than Future Miraes life was in Future Miraes timeline.

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What Carole said - I guess she's going to help Present Mirae get back together with Shin, now that their future isn't guaranteed to be bad.

I also wondered if Future Mirae is planning to stay in this second universe. Why go back to that miserable world where nothing will change? At least she can die happy here.

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I think that it's pretty likely that FMR will stay in this universe too (and hope so). The family dynamic between her, Oppa, and MR is adorable, and as much as she's annoyed everyone with her meddling, I do think that she should have a happy ending if possible.

I wonder if it's too much to hope that she'll try to unmeddle what she's already done?

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But if I understand this correctly, Mirae is undergoing accelerated aging in some way. If she chooses to stay in this timeline -- which I do kinda want-- won't she be "choosing" to die? Choosing to die among family and friends, yes. But choosing to die anyway. Time Guide isnt aging because he keeps returning back to the future but Mirae is aging rapidly. Is this her choice then..to stay?

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After episode 13, I decided I had to just accept the show on its own terms and not be upset about what it could have been, or drop it. Since I’m OCD, I can’t just leave something unfinished, so I went with option A. In that spirit, I’ll try to be positive in my comments.

*The Oppa/Future Mirae/Present Mirae scenes were the highlight of the episode, for me. The three of them were so heartwarming together. Kudos to all the actors; I really bought the three of them as a family who genuinely cared about each other. And I “awww”-ed at the matching Ahjumma-Mirae bags.

*I intensely disliked Oppa at the beginning of the show for holding Mirae back, but I love him now for coming around and supporting her, and for being so protective. And yay for him for (hopefully) getting a love interest.

*While I’m extolling Oppa’s praises, can we get a “hell yeah!” for his lecture to Shin that unless Shin changes, nothing else will change for him no matter where he goes. *Finally* someone says it!

*Shin going to NTN even knowing everything he does is incomprehensible to me – is he that much of a noble idiot? Also, is that an actual thing in Korea that people who are fired have to pay back their signing bonus (and more)? If so, wow.

*I did laugh at Shin saddling the team with lisp guy – oh, Shin, you are petty.

*As for Yoo-Kyung – well, I personally wouldn’t want a job I got only through connections. But good for her for not letting her romantic rejection get in the way of her hustle. Girl’s got bills to pay, I guess.

*Se-Joo-Mirae is going to end in tears for everybody involved, but at least they were sweet in their scenes together. I liked their shopping scene – slightly subtler product placement for Bang Bang than in Episode 13. I defer to others’ judgment on this, but I didn’t think Se-Joo was proposing marriage – surely that would be too much even for him? I thought it was just him asking her to date him and to accept his feelings.

The one thing I can’t whitewash was the ending (okay, I couldn’t be ALL positive). The “parallel universes” was a good plot twist, but it seemed like a cop-out for the viewers. If all this was for nothing, then what was the point of it all?

Thanks for the recap!

P.S. @August – Song of the day, for Se-Joo re Mirae – “Let Me Love You” by Ne-Yo :)

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Agree with everything you said. I really was hoping some fan service would be done for the second leaders and we would be able to have our cake and eat it...with Future Miraes timeline having her meet Future SeJoo. (I am so obsessed with that.) But that time elevator of doom has been full of dread. Something crappy is afoot. One does not easily challenge the overlords of time and get away with it.

If Current Mirae ended up with Se Joo, Se Joo would end up being a happy but much poorer filmmaker-former chaebol, which wouldnt be bad. But yeah, wed have lovelorn Shin to deal with..and I dont quite see him marrying noona/vice president.

I'm really liking ths drama so I hope the ending is at least palatable.

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Wow, totally agree with all that you said. Even I'm just watching to finish the drama up because spending 12 hours watching it would be waste if I didn't finish it.

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Penalty clauses and such do exist, in nearly all countries - but that 200% payback would probably be illegal in most, including Korea.

I kind of got the impression that Yoo-Kyung was being sarcastic when she talked about using connections, because she overheard that the pick had already been made and the auditions were just a show. I might have the wrong take on that - it happens when you watch at 2AM.

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@Windsun33 - I haven't had vast experience in the workplace, but in both contracts I signed the signing bonus was unconditional and there was nothing about having to pay money if you're fired -unless you're fired due to illegal activity or malfeasance on your part.

Considering that Yoo-Kyung called him specifically to tell him about it, I don't think she was joking.

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I might be remembering incorrectly, but I think FMR said that Shin *quit* his job at NTN over the disagreements with management, which means he broke his contract since he didn't work for two years specified. Incurring a monetary penalty for breaking a contract like that is not unexpected. Whether a penalty is usually that high is another question.

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Yoo-Kyung didn't really go to SeJoo for the job. She went to tell him that no matter what he wanted with a change in office politics, people were not taking him seriously in his reform - people were still getting positions based on connections rather than talent. The position that she wanted was given to someone else before the auditions - that was what she overheard in the bathroom. She was just going to try to use her connections even though she knew he wouldn't give the position to her just because they were friends.

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That was my take on that also, that it was more of a "why am I doing this" thing, when the outcome has already been decided.

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@ Faye

Nice selection with "Let Me Love You” by Ne-Yo :)

The following scenes were highlights for me as well:

- Oppa/PMR/FMR taking pictures
- Mi-rae & Writer Bae
- Se-Joo's meeting/struggle with the board & separate meeting with Miranda
- Oppa/FMR/PMR/Se-Joo eating dinner together
- All of the Se-Joo & Mi-rae scenes
- FMR dragging Oppa on the blind date
- FMR/Shin meeting in the restaurant
- At YBS Oppa's warning/discussion with Shin about him really being able to change
- Shin & the VP on the rooftop looking down at all the lights and buildings

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Good scene selections! I'd forgotten about the one with Mirae and Writer Bae. I think Writer Bae is my favorite character in the show. She's so refreshingly adult!

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I think you misinterpreted Yookyung's asking for support from Sejoo. She already lost the job to someone else. She was not really asking him for special treatment but helping him learn a lesson about the way the cookie crumles in the biz world. She knows it better than anyone. She wanted him to realize that he cannot be all bark and no bite if he was to change things, and the purpose of this scene is also to show what a power couple they can be if they unite. I realize I am fully biased towards YK and SJ pairing and MR and Shin.

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Ah gee, sometimes one has to give up wild hopes for desperate ones. After YK gave SeJoo that bit of advice which shows she will be what Future Mirae said (media maven) I just had to jump that semi-ship. (Yep, Ive been shipping Mirae with both guys cause Shin looks so dang forlorn and Mirae is so bereft without him.)

I just feel the writer is pushing the idea of "hope no matter what, no matter how terrifying" and I'm not thrilled with that because isnt that what Future Mirae did for 20 sad years of marriage...hope for things to get better? Hope can just mire you if stuff or people don't change. It's that cursed Pandoras Box motif/sub-theme which the writer has put as a set piece squat in the middle of the drama. The Gods have opened the Time Travel Box with all the horrible truths the Mirae/Shin marriage will contain and the only way the marriage can proceed is by hoping love and self-knowledge will change the timeline. Well, they better show Shin making some BIG change soon...crawling back on his hands and knees to Miranda for a job maybe....taking the money offered even if it kills his pride.

All that said, Im wondering why Time Guide didnt just tell Future Mirae that all that meddling was pointless. Why keep it a secret? All that time they were running into each other and being scared of each other, he couldve told her.

Now, if this is all parallel universing, and certain things seem semi-fated-to-happen-but-not-really ( such as same issue with Vice President but this time Vice President is a girl) how can we cling to hope in this Pandoras Box?

There's the dread Future Mirae will be punished when she returns so my wisp of a hope that she might meet SeJoo Future is a gonna. Really, I dont see Future Mirae returning to the future. Im wildly "hoping" she stays in this present as a kind of older sister to the family. I'm also hoping the girl Oppa met on the sohgaeting is NTNs noona/vice president. Hey, one can hope. That'd help Miraes future, I think.

I want to see the future though, no matter what. Time-jump with Shin, Mirae, their baby, Oppa and his wife and kids, YK and Sejoo... all having a picnic together. Too much to ask for? Thanks for the recap.

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"Ah gee, sometimes one has to give up wild hopes for desperate ones"

LOL!

@Carole, I see you've come over to my way of thinking, at least a little. I agree they better have Shin do something major in the next few episodes if he's going to end up with Mirae. Even so, it will feel kind of rushed.

I don't think the writers are pushing the idea of "hope no matter what . . ." If anything, I got the complete opposite impression - that no matter what you do, some things can't be changed. Ahjumma may have been problematic in her methods, but her goal was ultimately noble -to save Shin's life. But now we found out that no matter what she would have done, it was too late to change the past. I think you and I had some discussions in the earlier episodes about the themes of the drama -if you had a chance to go back in time, should you. I guess we have the answer, now - it doesn't matter, because you really can't go back.

I would love a flash-forward with scenes of everyone looking happy together.

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Not "hope no matter what" but "hope being the only thing to hold onto no matter what fears or dreads assail you." This is what I think theyre aiming for with the Pandoras Box symbol. Future Miraes revelations were the horrors that flew out of Pandoras box but there is still hope lying at the bottom of the box.

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hope that stuff will turn out all right. That's what we humans have. That's sometimes all we humans have in the face of our faults and the vicissitudes of life.

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After this episode, I don't want Future MR to go back, now & forever. There is nothing for her in future, no husband, no son, no oppa.

What glee with endless scenes of SJ & MR! Sounds like a hopeless wish but really, will SJ be with MR? Here's hoping for the impossible...

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Here's hoping for the impossible! Hee. True dat.
I have long gave up on understanding the bad writing. Its spiralling into all-time cliches of KDrama romance. Like the guy leaving the gal going far awayand they say their goodbyes but an episode later they meet and kiss and make-up.. leaving the second-lead in the dust. I can't get enough of Sejoo in a suit. Hoping to see him in a double-breasted suit soon.

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so true, I luv se ju in a suit, acting so improved since heartstrings, I hope he gets a lead role soon, but I still want kim shin to get the girl lol

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Me too for FMR
I don't know what will be there for her?
Absolutely lonely Life

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I feel kinda bad for Ajhumma. I mean, she went through all the trouble of meddling into so many people's lives, risking major aging, and having people kinda hate on her for her actions (ie, the viewers, YK, and to an extent Mirae herself) just so she could better her and Shin's life....and all she got out of that was to be stuck with her original miserable life that she so wanted to get out of. So much for time-travelling. And if there was no point, then what is this show trying to tell us as a message? Fate's a bitch?

Even though I had been annoyed with FMR, I still wished from the bottom of my heart that she got her happy ending. Who knows, maybe this drama will pull a Nine on us and have FMR die in the past because she aged too much before returning to her future and thus there will only be one Mirae prevailing in the end who gets a better future, full of unicorns and rainbows.

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Yeah still wondering how they're gonna use that aging part o the plot. Unless a journey to the realm of death is part of the time travel journey and she gets all reunited with Shin in some time travelly afterlife. I want her to be happy. She's been unhappy for too long.

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"I feel kinda bad for Ajhumma" - One of the most remarkable achievements of this drama is that it's the first in the 50 I've watched or am watching where I actively wanted a character to die, preferably hideously. I still loathe the selfish, manipulative and up until now totally remorseless Evil Hag Ahjumma. YK's outburst in episode 13 was right on the money, but Evil Hag still didn't care.

Now of course, she's discovered that she's totally screwed with four lives for absolutely nothing, and she'll no doubt spend 2 episodes scrambling to clean up her mess - exactly like the writer herself, come to think of it. It's clear that the writer actually thinks of Evil Hag Ahjumma as a positive character, despite making her irredeemably awful, so I'm expecting the last two episodes to paint Evil Hag as the one who heroically "saves" Mi Rae and Kim Shin. I will be able to tolerate that if her "heroism" involves a sacrificial death. Something with stakes and bonfires would be good.

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I take it you don't care for FMR? :D

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I'm laughing because it's GLARINGLY OBVIOUS that Yookyung getting control of YBS and becoming the proverbial great woman behind Seju's successful man would have been the best thing that ever happened to the clueless young master.

Now YBS might as well go down the drain, and it would be nice to see kickass Yookyung move on somewhere else where her talents would be recognized and completely dominate that new place. I was shipping her with Seju, but now, he could be married to Mirae or some random girl on the street for all I care. A woman of Yookyung's caliber will be a success wherever she goes and she's much better off without clingy young master Park who doesn't know to stop picking a bone.

I just hope Shin will have a less ominous fate in this new time branch, and that will be a good enough ending for me.

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Let's hope Yoo Kyung doesnt turn into a totally selfish person who manages to take away everything from SeJoo. It's one thing to help one's chaebol hubby and quite another to take everything away from him and usurp his empire. So, agreed. She will help the YBS empire...but hoping time and money wont change her in the same way time and lack of money changed Mirae.

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"I’m laughing because it’s GLARINGLY OBVIOUS that Yookyung getting control of YBS and becoming the proverbial great woman behind Seju’s successful man would have been the best thing that ever happened to the clueless young master."

Would she have made Se-Joo more successful business-wise? Perhaps. (Although even that's a last-minute retcon- up to now, YK's main talent seems to have been wheedling men to get what she wants. Which, don't get me wrong, is definitely a skill. But she has never been shown to be some brilliant career woman). But would that have been the best thing to happen to him? Not necessarily.

I could see someone like Se-Joo living happily, if less richly, as a documentary filmmaker, as long as he's with the woman he loves and she loves him back. Granted, that's not Mirae. But if she loved him back, I think he'd be willing to give up being the chaebol. So YK would only be "the best thing ever to happen to him" if you're going on the assumption that being a successful chairman is more important than being personally happy.

Circling back to previous episode discussions, you can learn to love someone you marry even if you're not wildly "in love" with them at first. But at least the way the show has depicted things, Se-Joo seems to have zero romantic feelings for Yoo-Kyoung at all. So if they push them together in the last minute, it's going to be very forced.

Given Yoo-Kyoung's ambitions, I think she'd actually be happiest with some striving chaebol (or a businessman on his way up) who's looking for a smart partner, not necessarily love. What she seems to need and want more than anything is financial security, and she should leave love out of it.

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here, here!!!!!

There seems to be a real sense of entitlement in how some folks deal with SeJoos money. They think it's his and he's entitled to keep it via inheritance. So they are happy that YK will enable him to keep his money. As if love means never having to be poor...or never having to say "I am only middle class."

I personally think SeJoo's creativity lies in something other than being around narrow-minded businessmen. Maybe YK's addition in life is that he can do his art while she does the money part of the family business. And maybe they will love each other in a deep way but even so...lets not go mistaking love as the ability to make ones hubby rich.

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Oh your comment brings me to that scene where Sejoo is lying in Mirae's bed and he was talking about how cozy and warm, her house felt, even the smell and also the way he looked at Na family during dinner. He is longing for the warmth of a family. Like he said, he was hurt but had nowhere to run to. He's spent almost all his life with Miranda which can be really harsh at time. He'd probably choose to be less successful yet have the warmth of a simple and loving family.

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He can join Yookyung's warm family in their cold shabby home ^^ That would be my fave ending for this drama

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true, YK's family did look like nice folks.

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you guys who stopped watching FM should be back and keep watching. I mean, why stopped? I swear I've watched so may kdramas (heirs include-but just dropped this mehhh drama), FM gives me something new, like novelty, detailed writing. Yes, I found my self frustated over one or two eps, but then I realized, its because I really liking this drama to the extent not to let the drama to makes mistake. and oh the cast, I swear im gonna miss them. korean's rating just didn't do justice.

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Im gonna miss this drama as well.

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I stopped watching this drama not because this drama is absolutely silly like Heirs but I hate to see See joo was turned down many times. Some complained that he just keeps pushing or cannot forget Mirae as if this were bad but I get a feeling that once you love someone, it is hard to forget and move on. His persistance can be a good trait for his future success( I know someone like that and he is very successful on his own right.) So I feel rather bad for him facing many heartbreaks/let downs and I really feel that one more heart break is brewing!! Poor man. In real life, some one is there for a girl no matter what can be a good person to be involved or get married. My husband is just like someone who is always there for me kind of man. I have been married for nearly 25 years and I am still happy. But K drama tends to kill those guys.

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yeah, it does seem weird that so many people are angry with the guy who is loving the girl even though the true love has been pretty distant to her for most of the episode. I say "get love when you can get it..especially if the guy's kind and sweet."

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wish the writer listen to your sage advice!

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I wouldn't care if he didn't move on if he weren't so dramatic about it. The goodbye date with the fireworks and the brooding Jeju and then he showed up a few days later ready to start again. It's hilarious. The writer has no idea what to do with this character anymore after his first failed confession. So he just keeps doing the same crap over and over again and Mirae's feelings never change. It's a chore to watch. Either make her feelings change or make him move on. Everyone else is, for the good or bad.

I feel he'll get everything from Mirae (I wouldn't be surprised if they kissed tbh) but not her heart basically.

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Might just be me but I'm not sure where the noble idiocy thing comes in. I really dont see the OTP behaving in any nobly idiotic way. They are being way rationale and practical considering what all they have seen in Pandora's box. Shin breaks up with Mirae because he doesnt want to kill himself. Mirae breaks up with Shin because she doesnt want to turn into a nagging bitter unhappy bitch. Pretty good choices, I say...especially when supposedly they have no choice/chance at all for happiness. To me, sticking it out and hoping the Carved-in-stoned-doom wont happen-- while one has not changed-- would be the more idiotic thing to do.

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Just my take on things, but to me Shin is acting like an idiot -he probably thinks it's nobility too. He believes that by leaving Mirae, he'll avoid the chain of events leading to death. And he won't cause her pain in the long run. So that can be seen as nobility from his perspective - sparing her the pain of marriage to him.

From his own perspective, though, nothing really changes. Because the key factor that started the downward spiral wasn't the job loss - it was him! He was the one who couldn't deal with being flexible in the new job. And once he left, he couldn't compromise his principles a tiny bit to help support his own family.

It's like Oppa told him in this episode - he is the one who stays the same, no matter where he goes. So chances are unless he changes, he'll end up in a similarly bad place, even if Mirae isn't there.

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Ah, I see what you mean. But didnt Ahjumma Mirae cut him some slack and wiggle room by saying she didnt come to stop him from marrying...just to stop him from marrying Mirae. It is possible another wife --with more spine and less self-sacrificing-- could have turned him around and changed him. Or at least divorced him so he wouldn't die.

I always thought noble idiocy involved sacrificing one's self for another though. So the idiocy might remain but not the noble part of it? ;-)

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"It is possible another wife –with more spine and less self-sacrificing– could have turned him around and changed him."

Possibly. But I don't see Shin as someone who changes easily at all, certainly not in response to someone else.

But then again, I am someone who has never thought you can change your partner when you marry :). I've seen plenty of marriages sour based on that assumption. To me, you better accept the person you're marrying, because that's who you're getting.

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Yeah, sad but true. Some stuff in a spouse you can change, other stuff ...well, marry in haste, repent at leisure.

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They are both being noble idiots here by separating to give each other a better life, but in this case you can hardly blame them. He has no guarantee their life will be better than FMR said it was and she has no guarantee she won't tell him go to off himself one day. It's difficult to get past you'd think.

I also thought the drama made it pretty clear their issues were brought on by both of them, so they both need to come together in some way if they are going to make it work. Shin can go after her, but would she accept knowing he might die? Who knows.

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Shin to me is a total noble idiot. His solution of just leaving Mi Rae high and dry was a stupid solution. He now knows what caused most of the problems, so why not fix those instead? The present Mi Rae is not the MR from the future - her life has already changed big time. But Shin just keeps following the same path that he KNOWS will ruin him (unless he does not really end up signing the contract).

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@Windsun33 - We said almost the exact same thing in separate comments - guess that means we're in agreement? OMG WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE? :)

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I am sure we will disagree on the next Heirs recap to make up this :D

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Confuse & curios,
MR & KS > >> 2 episode, hm... everything will rushed but they're first lead. Something big must happened.
MR & SJ >>> they're really sweet to be together (my bias) but this is k-drama.

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I stopped watching after ep11 but as always thank you so much for your recaps.

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im about to give up on this series, I luv all the characters but they do nothing, bad bad pacing

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"...how the lights of the buildings and cars seem like the reflections of the stars that shine so pretty and bright."
gummimochi, was that Flight of the Conchords reference in my drama recap?!! Hearts!!

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Why yes, in the daytime of the night.

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@gummimochi:
"Either I must have missed the part where he told Ajumma that he had cancer the first time or the order of that reveal felt clunky."

Not sure which occurrence exactly you're referring too, or if you still want to know, but:
In the original timeline, I do believe that FMR never found out about Oppa's cancer. He cut off connections with her "20 years ago" and I expect that he died not long after that. My assumption is that she spent almost 20 years believing that Oppa still hated her and didn't want to talk to her, when he was actually long dead.

In this timeline, FMR found out when they went to the hospital together (due to his stress and all?).

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Yep, Future Mi-rae said she didn't know that he was sick until they went to the hospital together, but I do believe he asked about a cure for cancer in a previous conversation. It was a throwaway line back then, but in any case, Present Mi-rae doesn't know now, which is what I assume the show wants us to follow. I hope Oppa gets well soon! :)

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I just finished marathoning this show up to this point and I can understand completely why the ratings have declined the way they did. The buildup to when Mirae came to like Kim Shin and vice versa felt real flat to me. Usually, you get all these sweet/funny moments or some grand gesture to get to that point but there was absolutely nothing there so I never really got invested in their whole true love thing. Maybe I've just gotten too used to seeing all the Kdrama rom-com staples that this show seems to be trying real hard not to do. Unless I missed something, I have yet to see a single kiss/backhug/piggyback etc. Putting YEH on a show that has no kissing scenes is like having Michael Jordan on your team and telling him to only do lay ups and not dunk the ball.

I actually found the Se-Joo/Yoo-Kyung story more interesting and hearbreaking. Even the Mirae/Se-Joo pairing seems more exciting. Not since "poopypants" from Scent of a Woman have I rooted more for the second male lead in a Kdrama. it could be I am finally starting to get sick and tired of seeing the same cookie cutter characters. You know what I'm talking about.. Female lead falls for Male lead who's a complete A$$ while Male second lead is nothing short of being a saint with no snowballs chance in hell of winning our heroine's heart. Well, this show is not over yet so who know, maybe they'll break that cliche too.

*sigh* It seems like "Nice guys finish last" is the mantra for every Kdrama. lol

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I'm not so interested in the mechanics of time travel. Parallel time lines? Time flowing ever forward like a river and to go back means you are going against the current? Meh. If Time Cop is telling Future Mi-rae the truth, and I suspect he might not be, the fact that she is about to return to an unchanged future because she's created a new time line with a new Future Mi-rae is good enough for me.

The questions I'm really interested in having answered probably never will be as there are only two episodes left. Like why does time travel exist in the future? Who developed it? What purpose does it serve? Who controls it and how do you get chosen to time travel anyway? Why was Mi-rae picked in the first place?

Also why an entirely new method of return to the future? The time cop's reason seems pretty bogus to me. Like maybe if you go back, you can never return. Mi-rae can't stay in the past because it's killing her but she can never return to the future. Maybe she will be trapped in some time traveller's prison.

I also think the situation, as it stand now for all the major characters will prove to be just as disastrous as the old time line. Present Mi-rae is not a good match for Se-joo. If he is going to remain the head of YBS, he needs a woman like Yoo-kyung by his side. She's smart, she understands the world and now that she's lost her gold digger mentality, at least as far as Se-joo is concerned, they have the potential to become real partners. She took over the business in the old time line. Present Mi-rae, if she marries Se-joo, might have an easier life monetarily but I don't think she's the kind of person who can do for Se-joo what Yoo-kyung can.

Shin is setting himself up for real misery if he gets romantically involved with the Vice-President's daughter. He will never be accepted, always be undermined and I don't think the daughter is strong-minded enough to protect him. She makes excuses for her father instead of standing up to him. Also what's the old man going to use him for anyway?

Neither Shin or Mi-rae need wealthy partners to take them shopping. Mi-rae wants to leave the protected bubble she's lived in all her life and see if she can make it on her own. Shin wants to go as high as he can in his chosen profession. Neither Se-joo or the heiress are going to be of any real help to them there. They might not be poor any more but money isn't everything.

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I wonder if the "other" elevator door is a door to another future parallel timeline. I certainly do wonder where it leads to.

I wasn't sure if the vice president was making an excuse for her father; I think perhaps she was being complicit in deceiving Shin. If she really does have eyes for Shin, she might have reasons for trapping him with that possible debt.

Not sure if Mi-rae lived a protected bubble. And both Shin and Yoo-kyung seem to have had bad childhoods. Whatever happens to their futures, Im glad both couples know each other in this timeline. It's always good to have friends. I so want to see one of those k-drama found family longterm friendships.

I'm thinking the time-travellers prison might be one of Mirae's choices...and maybe she'll just choose to die in the present surrounded by friends. Would be a fitting send off.

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Shin being such a noble idiot is a huge turn-off and disappointment. I understand he's very stubborn, but dude! The universe has given you a chance to change something that could steer your away from a tragic future. Take it! Be like Se-Joo, who justifies his pursuing of Mi-Rae by saying that is their fate.

I guess now I see why Heirs has much better ratings than this show. People had such high expectations for Marry Him If You Dare with Lee Dong Gun, Yoon Eun Hye, and Jung Yong Hwa starring, and then they realize later on that despite the whole time traveling thing, it is as predictable as every other kdrama. Whereas in Heirs, I think people accepted early on that it was going to be a bunch of candies and flower boys without a lot of substance. And now that we're being treated with more intrigue, and complicated characters, people are tuning in and their ratings are going up. And I was rooting for this show too. It's bitter sweet. When the show first started, i thought i could never get enough of our four leads. and now, i am actually glad we are coming to an end.

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@zappy Thanks for pointing out the reality that Heirs has actually got better while Miraeui Seontaek gets worse. Yes Heirs started off as nothing but pretty boys in nightmarishly ugly sweaters having hour-long staring contests, but it has progressed past that now, while Miraeui Seontaek marches resolutely into a plotless, pointless wilderness. The truth is that the Miraeui Seontaek writer has worked VERY hard to make sure that the drama gets the ratings it deserves.

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Right? I was going to give up on Heirs because a person can only take so much of Eyebrows and Ugly Sweater staring at each other, having the same conversation over and over, grabbing the same girl's wrist every other scene...LOL. But it did its job and has caught me in its web. And now I wanna find out more.

With this one, maybe my expectations were too high. Or maybe this show just presented us with limitless possibilities that it's just hard to pick one and tie ALL the lose ends together. Sigh. I stopped watching this one at episode 10, but did a marathon last night because that's just how Kdrama OCD works.

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You cannot really compare Heirs to this show - they are on different days. The main competition for this seems to be Empress Ki.

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Oh, I'm not comparing the shows :) They really are different. It's the ratings that I'm comparing now that I'm beginning to see what the reason may be why Heirs' ratings are going up, while this show's steadily decline.

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Why can't a comparison of MHIYD and Heirs be made between the two?

Both dramas were highly anticipated with a well known cast of actors and actresses written by established writers known for their prior hits - as recently as 2012 - King of 2 Hearts & A Gentleman's Dignity.

What's the difference with comparing either MHIYD or Heirs against one another versus all the times that Secret Love was compared to Heirs or any other drama that was airing at the time?

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The difference is that Secret Love was a direct competitor to Heirs, same day and time slot. That is why I don't think you can directly compare ratings. Content, acting, writing, etc. yes, but for ratings I think it should be compared to shows in the same time slot.

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Oops..Missed the flashing ***ratings*** sign in the discussion.

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i like all e actors in this drama but the story and scipt just make me frustrated. becos of miraes undecisiveness or rather the writer's, we spent a few eps gog back n forth between is it seju or shin.YK was supposed to be a not too bad character but she is nw made a villain bcos they want sejoo to be faithful.i started out rooting for sejoo but nw i feel very sorry for shin.Seems like in ever ep,the writer want us to feel sorry for one of the 4,so we end up not being happy with watever endin that may happened.it may hv been straight fwd if shin n mirae just decided to stay apart n avoid each other like plague since they knw e bad future.but no,they are portrayed as heartbroken.YK possibly will be havin e worst ending too, no thanks to e writer. quite early in e shw,i start rooting for everyone including shin,yk,sejoo n ajumma except mirae, and i think that is a big failure of e writer to allow e viewer to stop being vested w e heroine.i will still watch e endin but this drama is on my list of worst drama of all time.

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So if I get this right, the present they are in right now is a different present from the real one? I'm slightly confused because I do not watch a whole lot of traveling in time shows or movies. The reason being that I always get confused. And now I'm asking myself how many realities must there be that ajhumma chose the wrong one?

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About the vice-president being a daughter versus Future Mi rae thinking the vice-president was a guy:

Could it be that the reason Shin quit the company was because the VP was trying to have an affair with him and because he loved Mi rae, he wouldn't go through with it? The Shin in the other timeline might've kept the fact about the vice president being a girl to Future Mi rae so she wouldn't get hurt. It's still noble idiocy, but not for the reasons we'd been set up to think, that he did it for his work and principles - I think Shin changed the moment he fell in love with Mi rae and wouldn't compromise that for anything else. Still the same Shin, I guess, but for entirely different reasons that Future Mi rae might have thought. If only they could've talked it out.

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I also think that the reason he quit the job was because that girl was hitting on him and maybe blackmailing him with his job to get him to sleep with her, but he wouldn't. So he quit his job. Or something like that

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The thing I love about this drama is no one is evil. Ahjumma Mirae actually has good intention. Yoo Kyung just flirty and straight to the point, but not overly offensive.

Ah, with two episode left, I just wish they don't make an unbelievable twist and just keep things sweet..

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As the old saying goes - "The road to hell is paved with good intentions" :D

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I wish the best for Yoo-kyung and I want her to at least have a happy ending.

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I have been rooting for her from the very beginning. It's not a crime to be gorgeous and flirty and still have the smarts. determination and a good heart.

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To be honest, I am not SJ fan. I was rooting at him at first, but now I realize what this story is all about. Now I don't know how it is supposed to end after the writer botching things up. :( LDG and YEH have so much CHEMISTRY! It was wonderful, writer should've made use of it well.

Now at episode 14, I dislike SJ for being too needy and clingy----it's just wrong timing that he seizes the opportunity to propose to Mirae at the time she's sad and heartbroken! LOL. I was expecting so much better from his character. He sounded more like a little boy. Writer please, please redeem all the characters. 2 episodes more to go and it's deliciously frustrating me to no end. XD

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No worries. Sejoo will grow up thanks to Yookyung and streetwise ways peppered with love ^^Isn't she the one who told him that he is just a boy under his grandma's wing and that he needs to do much better. YK is always the one who tells it like it is - and that's why I luuurve her

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I think this is what is killing me about this drama - we are given little bits (and I mean really tiny bits) here and there of LDG and YEH together, but they just have great chemistry when they're together, that it's still enough to keep me watching. It's torture, really.

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Does anyone see the small smiley face at the bottom left corner of the db webpage?

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Agree, the older brother of mirae / Oppa character here is most adorable.

Love that scene when he was giggling/coy/happily chatting with or texting this girl he dated thru efforts of future mirae

Still, no. 1 reason, so far, that makes me ignore whatever imperfections the writing or plot has - - - is none other than the apparition that is lee dong gun!

Can he please come out in a film soonest, with other "real IT in hallyu" like WBin, JDG, SjSub, JJinMoo, HBin, LBH, the works! The gems!

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I will just continue to be absolutely baffled that people aren't getting this show. Why does it have crap ratings? Why? Why don't people actually believe that the multiverse theory of time-travel is a legitimate one and not just the writers trying to cover their ass (well, let me not say that because I don't know, but if they are they're using something that could possibly be the actual truth, so I'm okay with it).

My theory is that the time-travel aspect to this story just turns people off. Sci-fi is one of my favorite genres so it only enhances this drama.

When Now!Mi-rae was talking about different worlds with different Mi-raes, that was a big honking flashing sign of how the show was going to handle time travel. That's why I'm willing to give the writers the benefit of the doubt. You don't go dropping those kinds of anvils that far back if it's some hastily conceived of plot bandage.

Sure it's a bit of a downer that the best Future!Mi-rae can do is live vicariously through Now!Mi-rae, but life's not fair, things suck. It's just realistic. And Future!Mi-rae's response makes sense. She was willing to change time, ruin other people's lives. Maybe it's just karma.

Now I have to do a mini-rant about Kim Shin. Dude, FIX YOUR LIFE. It's youuuur fault, this whole damn drama is your fault. I was thinking that maybe Kim Shin could go off and start his own small broadcasting company (on the internet, I dunno) on his terms. But what connections does he really have? really? And would he even take advantage of them if he had them? The guy frustrates me. I don't want him to settle and be resentful, but he's just doing all of this to himself. Argh.

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JYH fan!! Just want to finish this drama not read anymore to any fan of jyh

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I actually thought the show was pretty fun but I stopped watching at episode 8 when I realized I was doing other stuff while watching the show, haha.

That being said, I've just been reading the caps as a form of "finishing" the show since I do have a slight case of OCD. I agree with whoever finds LDG-YEH's chemistry amazing together and just want them to end up together already! I'm a huge huge huge fan of JYH but seriously...I didn't think it'd be possible but the drama actually makes me hate him. I've no idea why people like Seju-Mirae together so much. I can usually ship JYH with anything even a bear but seriously...the writer makes him so damn hate-able it's ridiculous.

The only people I like in this drama are Oppa and Yookyung but definitely not enough to continue watching it.

Anyways...can't wait for this drama to end and find out what happens!

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