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I Remember You: Episode 11

The Big Reveal is here, and we’re given much more than just the identity of Lee Joon-young. The attempt to humanize him and evoke sympathy is somewhat successful, in that we realize the dire circumstances that created the monster he became. In that same vein, we see the reflection of those circumstances—loneliness and abandonment—in Min’s upbringing and how that affected his current being. It’s a strong case for the argument that monsters are created, as victims of circumstance.

 
EPISODE 11: “Birth of a Monster”

Ji-an recalls her fear of death in the moment and admits that she was scared she would never see Hyun again. He steps closer to confirm that she’s alive and that he’s here, and in that moment, Ji-an goes in for a kiss.

Hyun reacts stoically, and Ji-an opens her eyes mid-kiss, suddenly realizing her mistake. She breaks away and desperately searches her mind for an explanation. And she comes up with: “I usually do this when I die and come back to life.” *facepalm*

She digs herself a deeper hole by rambling on about natural selection, which gets Hyun to smile in amusement. She concludes her mortification by saying it was instinct and walks away with her things to hide away in embarrassment. Before she locks herself inside the room, Hyun expresses his appreciation for her coming back alive, and she thanks him for finding her.

Hyun notices a black notebook on the table and his smile drops. He flips through the notebook and realizes that it’s the Officer Yang’s missing notebook. His lips curling into a smile, Hyun deduces that Lee Joon-young saw his ad in the fishing magazine and responded.

In his basement, Hyun looks at the evidence: the notebook, newspaper clippings, and the banks account book. He decides that whatever he finds, he won’t run away anymore.

Ji-an kick the air in frustration, wondering if she should have just died then instead of dying of mortification now. She turns towards the door and sees Hyun staring at her. He shows her the notebook and tells her that Lee Joon-young seems to have paid him a visit.

Joon-ho sharpens his knife in his kitchen and makes dinner. He looks out of his window and smiles eerily.

The next morning, Hyun and Ji-an follow the clues in the notebook to a small village home, where a family and 13 workers disappeared overnight in 1993. It’s a cold case, but Hyun figures that the case will probably show them more about Lee Joon-young.

Walking through the home, Ji-an shrieks in surprise when a woman runs through the home. Hyun sends her a disapproving look, and she sheepishly admits that she’s afraid of ghosts.

In the room they enter, there’s a picture drawn on the wall. Hyun recognizes it as Purgatory, as known under Catholicism. He pounds on the wall, listening for a hollow room, and then he grabs a hammer to knock down the wall.

Min gets a text from “uncle,” telling him that the person got to his doorstep. What does that mean?

Hyun breaks down a section of the wall to reveal a secret door. The two enter this room and find a coffin with a skeleton. But why would a body be hidden here?

By the sight of the rosary and Catholic symbolism, Hyun presumes that the body was hidden to be erased from memory and, in turn, sin. In Catholicism, if a person committed suicide or was murdered, the body could not reach heaven. With enough time, the case would be forgotten and the person could possibly escape Purgatory.

Hyun recognizes the bone structure to be of a woman, but they need expert eyes to tell them more. And he knows just the person: Joon-ho.

As they leave, Hyun mentions that they should talk to the ghost who’s been following them. When they reach the top of the stairs, a woman stares at them through the window, catching Ji-an by surprise.

In the interrogation room, Hyun asks the woman to tell them what she knows. She followed them because she wanted to tell them, right? The woman smiles and says that she had only heard the story through the other workers on the field.

The discovered skeleton was the youngest daughter of the family who lived in the home. One day, she came home severely injured, and soon after, her belly grew. Her pregnancy was hidden from the outside world. When she gave birth, her first words were: “Get that thing away from me.”

Our suspect doesn’t address the question of rape and continues her story — that the child was raised in private with no record of relations to the family. Looking at Hyun, she pointedly mentions that the child was different. His mother, family, and everyone despised and feared him. As a result, he spent most of the time alone.

Hyun realizes now that Lee Joon-young had possibly been telling the truth in his interrogations with his father, though his father thought they were all lies. Our storyteller continues: After his mother committed suicide, the child was trapped alone forever. She became his only contact with the outside world, as she delivered his meals. Sometimes, she would bring him books to keep him company.

They ask if she remembers this child’s face, and she tells them with certainty that she does. Hyun and Ji-an stare at the drawing of this child, a match to Lee Joon-young.

Team Leader Kang returns to work with a cast, and his team celebrates his return with a welcome back party. Just as Myung-woo begins to cut the cake, Team Leader Kang stands up for another dramatically boring speech about the lessons he’s learned and how beautiful life is.

He suddenly stops when he notices Ji-an isn’t present. She exits the interrogation room with Hyun, who passes by the party with little care. Ji-an sticks around just long enough to suggest other purposes of cake, and a cake smearing party ensues.

Hyun drives away, thinking back to the rest of the story. On the day that everyone disappeared from the home, the woman had released Joon-young. She was knocked unconscious, and she woke up to all the dead bodies in the home. Hyun imagines this scene with Lee Joon-young, looking innocently sinister.

Joon-ho puts together the bones of the discovered skeleton, and he takes off his gloves to touch the bones with his bare hands. He says aloud, “It’s been a long time… Mom.” Yes, he is Lee Joon-young.

From behind, someone comments on his reunion with his mom. It’s Lawyer Jung, and Joon-ho tells him that Hyun will arrive soon. Joon-ho asks why he prompted his hyung to come. “What do you really want, Min?”

Min asks right back, “Then what about you, Uncle? Didn’t you want to see him again, going so far to live next to him?” Joon-ho confirms that possibility and tells Min to share his reason. “I just wanted him to know.”

Before he answers what he wanted Hyun to know, Min decides to leave. He doesn’t want Hyun to figure everything out like this. Now that wouldn’t be fun, would it?

As he thinks back to his childhood, Min clarifies what he wants Hyun to know, “What it’s like to be abandoned, to be completely forgotten, to disappear. I want hyung to know that feeling. I want to show him what his abandoned brother became.”

Hyun catches him walking out and asks for his help. The Three Musketeers reunite in the autopsy room, where Hyun explains how he found the skeleton. He wanted to meet someone, and the response to his message was this body. He prefaces their involvement with their helpfulness in their previous case and asks for their thoughts.

Min suggests that this woman’s skeleton may hold the person’s story. The person may be hoping for understanding, even possibly sympathy. Joon-ho confirms this possibility, saying that some people search for that one person’s understanding. Min agrees, “Humans are feeble, no matter how strong they seem.”

Hyun accepts their points as valid, but he admits that he’s not interested in understanding or sympathy. He’s distracted by a message from Ji-an, asking if he needs anything from the supermarket. That prompts his leave, and he suggests that the three of them go out for soju later.

Hyun finds Ji-an grocery shopping and takes over. Ji-an mentions that she should host Joon-ho and Lawyer Jung some time, since they helped save her. Hyun doesn’t think it’s a good idea and suggests that she stay away from those two. As he walks off, Ji-an wonders if he’s just jealous.

Their next stop is the pillow shop, where Ji-an explains that she suffers from neck and back pain because she faced off one hell of a guy recently. The employee sends Hyun some cheeky looks and recommends their second best pillow because the number one pillow is your lover’s arm pillow. The two wade in the awkward assumption. Haha.

Hyun cleans the house and ponders why he returned to Korea each time, which correlates with the murders and bank deposits that occurred. Ji-an offers to help clean, but Hyun doesn’t allow her to impose on his hobby.

He asks his stalker if she remembers why he returned to Korea, and though Ji-an initially shakes her head, she remembers each reason. A theory competition and special lecture in 2011, the detective institute in 2012, and his first summer break as a professor in 2013. He asks Ji-an to tell him everything that he did during these times.

Sitting together on the stairs, Ji-an recalls that he would have fans who’d give him gifts every time he came to Korea. Hyun only now remembers these gifts and realizes that he never opened them.

He thanks Ji-an by patting her on the head and complimenting that she’s useful sometimes. And she returns the gesture, saying that she’ll wait. In her head, she clarifies that she’ll wait for Hyun to explain the story behind his brother.

Staring at Ji-an, Hyun’s smile drops, and he tells her that his mind is complicated. As Ji-an shrugs and walks away, Hyun calls for a favor in English, which earns him a glare from and English-illiterate Ji-an.

The team is on a new case, this time with the death of a minor, a high school boy. Ji-an and Hyun arrive at the scene together, and Myung-woo tries to recall why this is so suspicious. He vaguely remembers their conversation that hinted that they lived together, but Hyun snaps him out of his recollection.

Joon-ho analyzes the wounds on the student, who has no form of identification on him. Myung-woo insists that it’s a crime committed by a peer, and Joon-ho specifies that the wounds seem long-term. Hyun adds that typically, this would be a case of family abuse or school bullying. Ji-an suspects that the crime scene isn’t necessarily this location, based on the dirt on his shoes and scrapes on his fingers. It seems that someone dragged him to this location.

Hyun notices that the student seems to be undernourished, since his clothes are slightly bigger, though Joon-ho notices that the brand of his accessories suggest that he’s well off. This location seems to avoid the surveillance of any cameras, making it a perfect spot for undocumented abuse. Team Leader Kang notes that criminals are at times like profilers and asks if Joon-ho is a profiler too. 50/50 chance, try again.

The student’s parents come into the autopsy room, and the mother breaks down at the sight of her son. His father hangs back in shock. The mother tells our investigators that Yong-jae was an adopted child, but she cared for him like her own precious child. His father mentions the possibility of the high school gang, and Hyun steps in, seemingly suspecting the parents. Where did they just come from? Could they search their home, if they have nothing to hide?

Hyun and Ji-an go through the home, but the search comes up empty, with no useful evidence. Hyun notes that something is off, or possibly it’s fitting. The things that the student wears are clean, but the objects that should stay home are quite dirty. He dresses well, but he’s messy indoors — kind of like Ji-an.

Hyun takes out a family photo, which he claims to have “borrowed,” and it shows Yong-jae isolated from his family. He wonders if our victim suffered from emotional abuse as well.

Eun-bok and Seung-joo find the contact information of the bullies, though they claims something seems off. Myung-woo continues working on the case, and he’s met with a delivery man who has a package for David. He offers to give it to Dave, though the man insists on David (ha). Hyun arrives and takes the package.

In his basement, Hyun opens the package and reads the note, which tells him that the remaining 5 boxes will be sent as soon as possible. Hyun takes a deep breath and opens the lavender boxes. They each hold a crossword puzzle and a picture note in the same style as the ones he’s been receiving.

Hyun realizes that Min has been trying to send him messages all along. Was he asking Hyun to stop him? He tries to put together the words and numbers in the clues, but he can’t seem to figure it out.

In his art studio, Min thinks back to the times he saw Hyun in Korea. Each time a fan delivered his lavender box, Min had watched from afar.

Looking at the crossword puzzles, Hyun finds that the clue cards may not pertain to the message. The flipped mirror image of the crossword puzzles partnered with a binary code reveal a new message.

Hyun finds Indebted Friend and asks him to look in to the three people that these numbers pertain to: family issues, relationship issues, relation to crimes, or abandonment. Suddenly, it occurs to him that abandonment could be Min’s murder motive.

He asks Indebted Friend to find whether or not these people are related to any of the picture people he shared with him earlier, and this time, Hyun asks for a favor instead of using his debt. Indebted Friend looks surprised, and Hyun follows up by explaining that the friend plays a big role in art, and art is relevant in everything. He gives his friend 3 days.

Our investigative team stakes out for a couple days to find the high school bullies and finally chases them down. Ji-an and Team Leader Kang are stationed by the victim’s home. Team Leader Kang tries to make conversation by asking how she’s doing, but they’re interrupted by Myung-woo’s update that they’ve caught the bullies. But Ji-an exits the car and stays behind, claiming that something still feels off.

When she arrives outside the home, she unexpectedly finds Hyun there. They watch as the victim’s family exits from the home happily, seemingly unfazed by the death in the family. Hyun asks Ji-an to request them as witnesses.

Myung-woo and Team Leader Kang interrogate the high school bullies, who keep their mouths shut. But they betray a bit of fear behind their cockiness when Myung-woo slams his laptop threateningly.

Hyun addresses the parents in the interrogation room, with Lawyer Jung there to support their defense. He asks the parents to provide alibis for the day their son died. He claims that something felt very off since the day that they discovered their dead son. In the autopsy room, Joon-ho echoes the same sentiment.

They weren’t dressed like people who had worried overnight about their missing son. There were no call records to their son when he was obviously missing, and they had cancelled the hearing at the school for the bullies, even though Yong-jae was clearly affected.

The team finds the surveillance footage of the bullies beating up Yong-jae, but Hyun continues with his theory. He speculates that the parents wanted to cancel their adoption. Did they want Yong-jae to die? Or what about this: Where they relieved that their son had died?

Yong-jae’s mother neither confirms nor denies this fact and demands for evidence. In the surveillance footage, a witness passes by. The witness stops but ultimately walks away, ignoring the scene. It’s too dark in the footage to tell, but we see that this witness is Yong-jae’s mother.

Lawyer Jung thanks Hyun for his imaginative speculations but notes that nothing can be confirmed without evidence. In addition, the parents did not directly kill their son, though they may have abandoned him.

In the elevator, Lawyer Jung asks the parents to come clean, at least in front of him. He’s legally bound to keep his clients’ secrets, and Yong-jae’s mother obliges with the truth.

Hyun meets with Indebted Friend, who followed through with his promise. Indebted Friend hands him an envelope with the information, but Hyun hesitates to open it. He leaves with a simple “Good work,” and reluctantly opens the envelope.

Min stands by Yong-jae’s dead body and tells him, “You have a person who’s abandoned you but no one who will remember you. Not even your parents, siblings, or friends. I will remember you.”

On his way out of the room, he runs into Joon-ho, who watches him suspiciously.

Yong-jae’s mother receives a card in the mail, and it’s one of the cryptic messages delivered to Hyun and the victims. Uh-oh.

Min drives off, and Hyun stops before taking out the documents in the envelope, already suspecting yet fearing that the one person in the envelope is Min.

 
COMMENTS

The pace of this show really factors in the development and focus on characters, and I enjoy this introspective look into our three main geniuses/psychopaths. The reveal of Min and Joon-young were not big surprises, and I think the reveals were perfectly timed–keeping us prepared through foreshadowing but also providing us more than just the label on the person. I expected Joon-young’s reveal to be a little more unsettling, but I found myself surprisingly sympathetic towards his character. While Hyun may feel little sympathy for the man who killed his father and kidnapped his brother, I can’t help but feel sorry for him. He grew up abandoned, unappreciated, and forgotten, suffocated to the point of psychotic revenge on the people who surrounded him. I presume that Hyun will soon feel the same way, or at least show an inkling of sympathy, especially since his younger brother is a perfect reflection of Lee Joon-young.

At the same time, I’m not sure how trusting I should be of Joon-young. It’s true that he’s made a successful alias as Joon-ho, and it seems like he’s thriving by using his genius psychopathic tendencies in a good way. But that’s very little to put my trust in. I would like to believe that this gray area, this complexity in his character gives him more humanity, but that would be naïve. Just because he’s supposedly a better person now and searches for sympathy by sharing his story, doesn’t mean his past just disappears. He still took away Hyun’s family and Ji-an’s father, and we don’t know what role he played as Min’s uncle. Did he purposefully create these circumstances to mirror his, so that Min might become the person he became? Was that his attempt at stirring sympathy from Hyun? It’s working on me, but you need more than just your sob story to get to robotic Hyun.

Speaking of Hyun’s robotic nature, I found his reaction (or lack thereof) to Ji-an’s kiss completely hilarious. It was in character of him to just stare at her, and I love that his initial deadpan melted when a flustered Ji-an started making irrelevant excuses for her behavior. Though the romance was muted for this episode, I can see their partnership becoming increasingly stronger, with Hyun realizing Ji-an’s usefulness in knowing him. She seems to know him better than himself, and I think he’s warmed up to the fact that she obsessively stalked him. It’s paying off now, and he’s learning to appreciate it. Especially with two psychos on his tail.

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I have just started watching this. It's not a genre I'm particularly interested in, and I've got no particular interest in the lead actors either (none of their projects ever especially interested me) BUT I've got to say, with all the frustrating dramas with annoying characters to go around these days, what refreshing characters! A female lead with brain and guts!!! Matched with an interesting, non-manipulative guy!!!

I might just have to keep watching.

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+1000 on this comment.

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I was reading the comments here and am so taken with the response we have for our psychopaths ... the writing and the actors are so good that even the "villains" are multi-dimensional, relatable and even sympathetic so that viewers are caring about them in a big way.

This is quite an achievement among kdramas where most writing slots in the bad guy as cardboard plot pushers whom we can dismiss without a care. By contrast, it is the good guys, the police, who are not given much dimension, however they are still well defined enough uniquely, so that we know something of each personality.

This show is and has done what it set out to do. It was meant to be a story about flawed people, nature vs nurture or whether the evil or good wolf is fed by themselves or by others for them, about the duality in all of us. Taking a leaf from the frequent references to things Christian, there is a bible passage that refers to leaving both the weeds and the wheat to grow in the field until all are harvested and separated. Although the explanation given is that the wheat/weeds are good/evil people, we know that in each person we have both the propensity for good and for evil. However hope lies in the ability of good to convert what is evil into good as well, before the harvest time.

This show is a committed attempt to examine how both Min and Joon Yeong, born already with an inability to empathise, and both needing and not given attention, relate with a world somewhat forgetful and unsympathetic towards them. If even a few of us watching have become more aware, so as to say we will not call anyone a monster and we will remember those so labelled by our world, this show (regardless of ratings) is a great success.

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Exactly what I think about this drama.

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++many many

Enjoying this for its multi-layered complexity and lovely, solid cast.

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What an insightful view on the drama!

I started watching this drama a few as I like Jang Nara but there's always something else more interesting. Now that I'm waiting for the next subbed episode of an ongoing drama, I had time to watch this and I'm so glad I did.

We all have our good and bad sides and some we inherit and others we develop. It's how we are nurtured and how we ourselves take those nurturing that defines how we become.

In some cases, some people were never given a chance to fluorish...

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Seo In Guk is a brilliant actor . No more

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I underestimated Seo In gook. When he was cast for this drama, I admit at not being too thrilled about it and wondered how he could pull it off, but,I'll be the first to admit that his performance blew me away, he's sooooo good! I was already a fan of his, but his portrayal of a genius borderline sociopath makes my respect for him grow in leaps and bounds.

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I think he surely gets mature in acting. Like just by seeing his eye expression, I can relate to what kind of feeling he expresses that moment, smoothly.

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previously it was given to ha woo jin (liar game name) and i thought he was perfect for this now i think back it might have went wrong.
SIG was made for this drama. he proved his acting in many dramas with different genres.

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Thank you for your recap. I've been waiting for this.

First of all, I enjoy this drama so much right now. I love the mood and the characters. No lies, misunderstandings or triangles. The romance is rather low-key, but that's fine with me. I was initially disappointed with the kiss, but it was in character. And they made a point of it, that he didn't react and how embarrassed she was. So I hope we will get to see when he finally does react.

P.S. How gorgeous does Seo In-gook look in this drama? It's unbelievable. I've yet to see him in a drama, where I didn't like his look or hair.

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<How gorgeous does Seo In-gook look in this drama?

I rather like that he's got a unique and distinct look, with too many Korean actors (and actresses) I feel like they all have very similar features. But Seo In-gook doesn't exactly fit the cookie-cutter mould, he's got something very much of his own.

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Absolutely. There is no mistaking him for someone else. And I love how different he is here. Very understated and subtle.

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He should wear that dusty pink sweater all the time - that is an incredibly good color on him.

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And here I thought that was just me noticing that sweater. I usually don't really nituce such things, but that sweater was indeed memorable on him. Beautiful color and not feminine at all.

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YESSSSS, that sweater and those gray pants.

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Amen! Dictating what people should wear is rude, but SIG, if you read this, grab some stuff from Hyun´s wardrobe before the show´s over, eh?

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I love that sweater so much I want to buy one.

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Seo In Guk fits in every look of his roles. I mean he doesn't have a pretty face like many other Korean actors, but he does look gorgeous with all kinds of hair and styles in the dramas. Maybe I'm just convinced by his acting.

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"She seems to know him better than himself, and I think he’s warmed up to the fact that she obsessively stalked him."
dramallama mentioned that he is infact warmed up to fact that she stalked him. he faced loads of fans thru out his soaring career, no lack of stalking fans i guess. But rather, this Ji-an is different. Fans, normally do not Know him, all they do is dream of a fake him, a beautified idol, but this girl knows all his weirdness, his grey past, his flaws in characters, ... persevered thru years since childhood...
so, like you, i was glad this drama don't throw in triangles, and doubts and breaking ups.. and pretty handsome casts... (SIG never once in my list of handsome hunks, yet i do recognized that he can carried a mature megaton role, with restrains and controls..)
the earthly part of me, desired much out of this "kiss"... but i know, it will just destroy the character he built up with a hot kiss, without some self-restrain, and be rewarded when the right time cometh, when he finally be redeemed by Ji-an and himself by a true unreserved kiss.
but before all these, i take satisfaction in seeing him soaked in emotion, and gratitude as Ji-an revealed "how much i know you".... there are deeper currents of gratitude within that praise that she is "useful" afterall.. ..
think, this moment, as he softened his gaze upon her, telling her "my mind is in chaos", was the genesis in his opening up his heart to her, guess her depth of understanding and acceptance of all that she knows about him, moved him more than that kiss.
moved too, that while stalking him for reason to find her dad, yet she grew to love him, yet she is willing to wait for him to open up to her, not forcing him, digging in, allowing him to come to her, in his own terms.
willing to wait, is the selfless way in loving.
dramallama is so right to say, she knows him more than himself. he can write a book, he can give a lecture, swoon a hall-ful... but he run away from himself, he knows not himself, he can read every criminals' mind, but he choose to block a certain part of his past selectively. punishing himself for death of dad, and assumed death of Min, he blocked anyone who dare to intrude into his boundaries, or try to know him. "my mind is in chaos".... when did he started to be willing to talk about the anatomy of his mind? by this, we are 101% sure, that he has already opened up himself to her, just need the right push, the right courage...
SIG surprised me, i flood my list of hunks with the likes of Ji Changwook, Joon Won.... etc.
surprised that i may be started to be awed by his delivery.
this guy can goes miles, need not rely on pretty faces, not to mention his very kissable lips... its jsut a matter of times, he will scores huge with all kinds of acting AWARDS and accolades.
S.I.G., believe in yourself!
SOAR!

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moved by your words...

In the so-many stories of the flawed hero with the traumatic past and the heroine who managed to break through the cold facade and see the pained soul underneath, SIG and JN are presenting a understated yet moving, toned-down yet organic romance that neither overwhelm nor is drowned by the complexity of the story it is situated in. And they're killing it.

I'm enjoying every subtle expression they have for each other/when they think about the other.

lovely show, lovely cast.

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That pillow scene = best PPL usage I've seen in a drama! Laughed so much at their reaction to the sales guy ?

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Was it just me or was that sales guy thinking of "something else" when Ji An was talking about dealing with a rough guy?

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Haha nope it's not just you, he was totally referring to Hyun about that "something else"...hence the thumbs up LOL

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I´m glad that I wasn´t eating anything while watching that scene, because it would have been ALL over the place. Hyun´s face was spot on! Best PPL ever!

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re: Pillow?
Pillow is the talk of the town now.... from what i gathered thru out many many recap sites...
LOL... this is exactly what EVERYONE thinketh.
deep inside ALL OF US, we all hope the NO. ONE pillow will replace the No. 2 pillow some days very soon...
(wink wink)....
Dear Writer, take heed.
(didn't we fans, moved Writer Song to add in EPIC SCENE in Healer. the one ep15?)
can't we move this writer to make good use of No. 1 pillow?

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I hate to be ignorant, but could someone please explain what PPL stands for? I am not familiar with this term.

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It means "product placement".

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This is the best show. THIS IS THE BEST SHOW!

After the Park Shin-hye kiss I was worried, but SIG is fantastic - the way his face changed to wordlessly react to the blather Ji An was throwing his way was amazing, and then the delighted giggle/head nod was perfect. For once, the frozen kiss didn't make all the characters backtrack! It's pretty clear Hyun didn't mind, and in fact really liked it!

And then followed up by "I see you're busy"/"No, I've got time"? This is the best romantic combination I've seen in ages. Neither of them is stupid, and they've got the most hilarious way of just accepting each other's oddities.

The plot is speeding along at a great clip, and all of the supporting characters keep getting better - I love the constant sniping between the sunbae cop and "Dave", and Team Leader being a dork, and just everyone being fantastic.

I feel bad for anyone who watched "High Society" instead, except that now they can watch this from the beginning. SO GOOD.

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I wish I had more to say besides. OMG I TOTALLY AGREE but I seriously love these two as individuals and as a couple. They're just so nonchalant about the kiss and don't act like ten year olds after it and the way they pet each other's hair is making me giggle like a madwoman *.*

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I'm a big fan of well executed angst but the low key romance in this drama is so cute.

And I have hope that because the Park Shin Hye kiss is acknowledged as being awkward when Hyun is ready to step up the physical side of their relationship we'll see an actual kiss instead of a lip press.

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yeesss i agree :D

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If that kiss happens, I trust that Seo In-guk will not disappoint. Point of reference: Reply 1997.

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“... realising I could die very soon….I found out how scary that was… in conclusion, in that short time I had all kinds of thought…. Another thing that most scary to me is the thought that I’d never see you again.” Simply loved this girl for her oft times genuine outpouring of her heart, a leak here there, some touching words of affection, that all Hyeon needs daily, isn’t it? “But you did see me again.” He deepened his gazes, smiled warmly, lean towards this face that he pushed away many in times past. Hyeon understood; “But you did see me again.” Hyeon is not stupid or numb, in any given moment, any man will turn mash mallow, upon hearing such sincere heart felt confession from the girl he loved.…. “I’m glad you came back alive” saving her from her embarrassments, in a way comforting her that he “really don’t mind that kiss”. Based on his usual rude self, if he really dislike that kiss he will not smile like that when she blundered on explaining away, and he will not really smiled in amused, when she make excuses to leave in embarrassments.
At that underground bunker, about heard the thorough narrations of events when he returned during those years, …
“Time had stopped for me those years…. You’re uselful at times …” “I will wait” (until you tell me about your brother.) “my head is jumbled right now.” Hyeon started to revealed his inner bad wolf-good wolf fighing, something he has never ever revealed to anyone, his fear of his bad wolf, and his ongoing suppression of his bad wolf. Another word, he is sort of thanking her for waiting, and promising one day he will reveal himself when his mind isn’t that chaotic any more.

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Guess I won the bet, Hyun didn't kiss JiAn back! And I'm glad he didn't, otherwise it wouldn't stay true to his character. :P

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Xports News - Naver: 'I Remember You' Choi Won Young was Do Kyung Soo who has a tragic family history

1. [+4,872, -57] There's nothing shocking about it but what I really like is that they made the reveal so seamless rather than it being forced and dramatic

2. [+4,180, -275] Wow daebak. Do Kyung Soo's gaze is giving me the chills ㅠㅠㅠI love that scene where he was face to face with Lee Hyun and his eyes are about to drop a tear.

2. [+3,143, -55] Although we already knew about it, this drama is fun ㅠㅠ

3. [+641, -6] And the first thing he heard from his mom when was born "Please put him away from me"...

4. [+542, -7] Seeing Lee Joon Young's past, he's more pitiful than I thoughtㅠㅠ Like he was born to be a monster...

5. [+616, -5] He killed everyone except for the woman who took care of him and released him..

6. [+653, -54] D.O's so good at acting... Goosebumps. Better than most idols

7. [+420, -7] This isn't a twist but this drama is way too good.

8. [+114, 0] The lines that gave me goosebumps today... Lee Joon Young: Mom, long time no see... Min: I will remember you

Nate

9. [+310, -8] Everyone knew but the journalists ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

10. [+234, -9] Ah.. This drama is underrated ㅠㅠ

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This episode did not fail me. I love Min's reaction to possible abandonment of son and his subtle hint to Hyun on how to catch his client. Min sound so solid in his defense for his client while intellectually helping his bro catch these parents for their abandonment of their child.

Even though the relationship did not get steamy, it did get stronger which I think is better for it gives the relationship better chances of lasting longer time. Considering what these two went through so far in their lives, they deserve that.

Excellent recap. It is always a pleasure to read.

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When Min said, "They didn't kill him directly but perhaps they did abandoned him." I'm like, oh, he's gonna get youuuuuuuuuuu.

And I do sympathized that LJY suffered under the hands of the people that should have loved him and protected him. It's not just him being kept like prisoner but also physical and emotional abused was implied. And truthfully, I kind of don't care that he slaughtered his family. But then again, not all people who got abused become serial killers.

We also see how LJY could feel a connection with Hyun and Min, with Hyun getting the same treatment at home (not quite the same but still abuse) and Min being the actual sibling who is different and would have been the one being imprisoned if not for Hyun. It's like all three are connected in some way.

I totally LOVE the kiss. LOL. Ji An backpedaling and rambling on about when animals are endangered their instinct pushes them to think about procreating so their genetic legacy would survive. HILARIOUS. And Hyun's shock melting into humor, the way he tried to control his face but eagerly awaiting for Ji An to keep digging herself deeper into her rambles. CUTE.

I like that although the writers are pushing things into the romantic, they put them as friends and people who share a history first. It's clear that they want us to see that Ji An and Hyun as more than just a couple but two people who are different individuals who are learning each other, who are sharing an experience, learning to respect each other, has a bond through traumatic history with wounds and scars and are slowly healing through acceptance and kindness. I LOVE THAT.

That pillow thing was such a random PPL, still amusing though.

That image of Min, sitting in a neglected place and just waiting broke my heart.

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Hyun is NOT a psychopath.

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He is a sociopath. But I really like his character. Frankly I like them all, even the badies.

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I wouldn't label him a sociopath either since both 'conditions'--psychopathy and sociopathy--refer to the same clinical disorder that is listed in the DSM as 'antisocial personality disorder'. Those two terms popularized by the media differ in what people believe is to be the cause of such a disorder, i.e., psychopaths are born while sociopaths are made. However, I don't believe that Hyun, as we've seen him in this drama, would qualify for an ADP diagnosis--Hyun is not without conscience.

Of course, that's not to say anything about this show. I love it and all of the characters. In fact, I think they're dealing with the psychological components, especially this nature vs. nurture debate, rather well :)

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I like your answer but just one bit Psychopaths are not necessarily born. They may have some things to do with genes but other social, environmental, ec factors also influence a psychopath.
I agree that Hyun is not a sociopath. He doesn't show any anti-social behavior. He is reclusive which is normal for some genius people.
He is just self centered which is normal for someone who has lived alone for a long time and who is reclusive. Usually a trait with genius people who only discuss what they seem as important and neglect the rest which can make them quite unpopular among other people and make them look insensitive.
Nature vs nurture, yes, the drama makes a good topic for a discussion on it.

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Awesome answers. The reason why he does not explain things is their brain runs very fast so to slow one's brain down to explain stuff that is easy for them tends to give them a headache. It is kind of like walking next to someone with a slower gait than you. When you match their speed eventually your legs start to hurt.

Another reason average person cannot process more than one thought process at a time. With a person with high intelligence, they process multiple things and when they start shooting questions at normal person, it confuses normal people and they just answers one question they manage to understand and ignores the rest. When one have to repeat the questions multiple times and not get an answer back, it gets frustrating. In the end it is better just to talk about the most important point that needs to get across and not bother with the rest.

Another example of how the mind works with highly intelligent people is going back to how the three guys talked circles around the older brother of the murderer in the last episode. That is a simplified version of circular conversation where the three are able to continue the one long conversation as if they were one mind. The reason why it is simple because there was only one topic being discuss. In normal circular conversation, there is minimum of 3 topics. Basically they have one continuous conversation that constantly changes over the multiple topics. Normal people cannot keep up with switching of topic and not be able to keep up.

I love how intelligent the writing for this series has been. I think this is why I am jonesing for more at the end of each episode. I will be very sad when this is over.

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At the beginning I thought it totally possible he was a sociopath - stuff like getting Ji An demoted for the China stunt and his attitude with the art dealer. But now I'm coming round to him not being diagnosable psychopath, because of the moments of empathy that don't seem to be motivated by self-interest (aka, not a psychopath shamming empathy with a longer con in mind).

There's also something that goes down in the next episode that would make me flatly cross him off the list of potential psychopaths, again because it's contrary to his own self-interest and altruism isn't big in that personality profile.

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I think he's the type that is desensitized to social norms. and that he's so focused on fixing a problem that he doesn't see what he's doing to other people as he goes along. I get that way sometimes.

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You should see him in Law of the Jungle. He is intelligent in real life too.

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Who? Which one? What season? lol I keep finding more reasons to watch LotJ

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anyone can tell where's the english sub and what episode he's in..thanks in advance.

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seoinguk.wordpress.com sub the LoTJ in english. but only in guk's part.

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Good lord, I'd never seen LotJ but you're right. He's like a Swiss Army knife - need a fish? Sure! Need bait for the fishing line? Sure! Need the line? Sure! He will also row the boat with his feet!

That's impressive. And exhausting.

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SIG showed up with Lee Sung Jae(who played the King in King's Face) together and the whole crew teased them by calling their character's status.

There is this one part where they had to drop this long squarish fishing net into the river. Lee on one side and Seo on the other. Seo was smart enough to put bait into his net and caught 4 fishes where as Lee caught nothing. They both keep falling out of the round boat and flipping it over. At one point Seo stood up and starting singing on the river. It was pretty funny to watch.

My mom watches it all the time and when I started to watch it, I am finding it hard to find it with English Sub. It is funny and entertaining to watch.

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Commenting with tablet is frustrating. My last comment about Law of the Jungle was supposed to be response about SIG not fitting in mold. SIG was great in LotJ.

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ahh I replied before I read the next comment lol. nvm

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he's fantastic in LoTJ
the boy really have fun live in the nature :D

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Soompi girls sure do have a keen eye for these things...this is a screenshot of Hyun after JiAn walked away in awkwardness. Is this a subtle hint that writers want to tell us Hyun is not unaffected by the kiss...? ?

Sorry for my perviness!!.. BUT THAAT BULGE is truly centerpiece.. i couldn't take off my eyes of it.. SIG you are indeed very God Given Manly body.. O-O. LOL LOL LOL

https://40.media.tumblr.com/ed5ce7441d9f8c287893ca1de0ef2438/tumblr_ns5mvqqH9K1to1fhoo7_540.jpg

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Well someone's pleased at being kissed *.* I cannot unsee that

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HAHAHA OMG THIS, I cannot unsee this!

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I was too distracted with his adorable smile, that I missed a more distracting part hahaha

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Well at first me too but when i paused I noticed hıs simile was directed below so it's like he was saying " hello, monster" :D

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Hilarious!!!!
Man... From a Dusty Pink Sweater to a monster within grey pants. The comments for this episode are hilarious. :))

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God, that's funny! lololol

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I noticed. I actually re-winded it because, well just because....

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Hahaha. Well I didn't noticed at first until it was pointed out in Soompi then I re-played the scene too just to see....?

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But I admit I had already forgotten about it until I read you post. Don't know what I was thinking. Must have been the pink sweater.

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I agree must have been that pink sweater :P

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I freaking loved this episode and how the kiss was handled. It wasn't quite the right time for them to strike up a romance but I liked how they both recovered from it quickly and are still able to be around each other without being awkward. And I like how Hyun is becoming more and more affectionate. *Squeee*

The Joon-young reveal was done well. One simple sentence told us it was him. With Min we saw him flashing back but with Joon-young the bones and his response to them told us everything. I like how this show does things. And the part about how Joon-young was released is a lot like the story in the Japanese anime Blood+, with eerily similar outcomes.

And Yes! Hyun's sexy hairstyle is back. All is right with the world!

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Blood+ YES!!! Hyun is Saya while Min or more appropriately Joon-Young is Diva. I love the reference.

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The reveal of Lee Joon Young was expected, it was not a big surprise I also knew that his story wouldn't be normal, but man!! That was just so sad...

I love this drama, the writing, tha characters, all of it. That pillow scene was the best product placement ever, Anthony would agree with me ;)

There were big... confirmations these last episodes, I'm still wondering about the "I <3 my keyboard" cop, I feel he's part of something big, but I can't place it anywhere that makes sense. I first I thought he may be Min, not anymore now, but I still find him very suspicious....

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I <3 my keyboard cop. LOL. Perfect description of him.

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I used to think so too, but with four episodes left I don't know what they could do with him. I finally accepted that I found him suspicious mostly because he was the bad guy in Healer and I don't trust his face anymore (although it is quite a good looking face).

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I wonder if that was intentional stunt casting, because while it took me a bit to remember he was young Moon Shik in Healer, I immediately focused on him as a possible psycho in this show. So maybe he was set up as a false Min not just in the writing, but using the Healer performance as bait?

If so it was a good one, because I stared at him and thought "you're up to no good! But you're not happy about being up to no good, but you can't be trusted, but it's possibly not your fault..." I watched Healer too many times, clearly.

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If the writers will indeed write something more about "I <3 my keyboard" cop, that would be something. A twist in the last 4 episodes. Oh my, how will it end?! I'm really looking forward to it.

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Thanks so much dramallama!

Never have the simple words, "I will remember you" sounded so chilling. They are words meant to be spoken with warmth and good intentions, but here, it's so scarily the opposite.

I really want to commend all the actors in this show and the writing, again... wonderful, wonderful talent and work!!!

The way they express with so little change in expression, as befits those psychopaths, is soooo amazing. So human, so flawed, so trapped, so unloved... and now... so sad.

That these people could have chosen to use their genius for so much good is evident, but the circumstances of their lives, their inability to be accepted at the most crucial years and the wrong upbringing, made it that much more likely that they chose to misuse their gifts instead. Show so good, and how my heart aches!

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Yes, the words "I will remember you" finally make sense. And I agree they were creepy.

When the drama first started I assumed that the titular words were referring to Ji An and Hyun, but now I realize it relates to the brothers' relationship which is so much more profound and meaningful.

This drama really threw me for a curve, I, did not expect things to play out as they have and that's what makes the writing for this drama so beautiful.

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Hi there! Yes, that's right... the "I will remember you" links many characters together... the fact that Hyun cannot remember his past well but that Joon Yong, Min and Ji An remember him well... they either stalk him and/or manipulate matters to get close to him or react to his remembering or not remembering. All those murders committed by Min were because Hyun did not completely remember him, at least in the way that Min wanted to be remembered.

By the same token, the murders by Joon Yeong, were probably because people deliberately chose to forget he existed, or perpetuated that (for eg. Hyun's father stopped letters and communications with Joon Yeong in prison)

I feel that culpability rests on several shoulders. Everyone who could have told Hyun or helped him remember or not hidden things from him.... could have made a difference in how things turned out. Those who were adults when Hyun was a child are the most to blame. Now I fear Hyun taking on the blame himself as he did when he was young, taking care of his little brother once again.

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Yes, the scene where he confessed his feelings of responsibility to Ji An for how things turned out, just about broke my heart. NO child should be responsible for keeping a secret like that or be burdened by what happened. Genius or not Hyun was just a child. His father, and the policewoman have a lot to answer for the way things turned out. Especially the police. How could security be so lax they let a child wander around a police station or prison unaccompanied by an adult? When Hyun's father took a break why didn't he properly secure Joon young and lock up the room? If Joon young had never met Hyun events would have played out very differently. Why was Hyun's father content to let Hyun do the work of an adult and parent his sibling? I feel a lot of questions could be addressed if they explored the death of Hyun and Min's mom a little better.

After his father's death and brother's disappearance Hyun must have been acting on auto pilot. I've been there, it's a situation where one is just getting through the day without any real memories being made or lasting connections formed with people. It's possible to go years like this until something bursts the bubble that surrounds you. I believe for Hyun, meeting Ji An, getting involved in the police investigations, finding out his brother was still alive, and meeting Joo Young again acted as a jolt to his consciousness and made him feel more intensely alive and aware than he had been in a long time.

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I originally thought "I Remember You" as a title choice for a thriller was a little tacky (I preferred Hello Monster). But when Min said it that way, I was like... oh gosh. That's so creepy. All the "tacky romance" vibe of the title just dissipated to thin air.

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I laughed out loud when I saw the BTS of the kiss scene. SIG instinctively went forward to react at first, but the PD stopped him and made him stay still. He got embarrassed and mutter "just habit, habit, habit..." Poor Inguk si, you've always made the first move, but not this time, haha

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Thanks Kiki. Cute video.

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thanx kiki :) btw the last line "since Noona worked hard today, I will work hard next time"

I will remember you Seo In Guk :D

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The revelation of lee joon young's childhood reminded me of voldemort's back story. Pitied him a bit but I couldn't forgive him for taking Min and making him what he is now.

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You read my mind, I was totally thinking of voldemort’s back story too! Nicely done writer-nim.

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I did not expect a backstory like that from lee joon young. It was so sad. These writers are just full of surprises. Maybe that's why a lot of people are liking this show because its different and not like your usual kdrama with love triangles, frustrating characters, and cliches like High Society and The Time We Were Not in Love. If I have to watch dramas like that again, it would have to be the old ones like Coffee Prince or Goong. I don't know what it is but dramas have been losing their charm these past few years. Or maybe I'm getting too old for this stuff. lol!

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This drama feels layered. We've got the flickering romance, we've got Min, we've got Joon-ho, we've got the murder-of-the-week, and then there's also the entire backstory where we find out Min thinks he was abandoned, Chief Hyun both got Hyun's dad killed AND then didn't look for Min, and now we're hearing that Joon-young's dismissive treatment from Dad might actually have been totally unwarranted.

That's a whole lot of threads to be running alongside each other, and yet the show doesn't feel overstuffed. That's quite the accomplishment.

It's very interesting to think that Joon-Young's chlldhood likely did involve being locked up and abused by relatives, and it's horrible to think that Psychologist Dad apparently didn't believe him. It's also terrible to think that part of Joon-Young's reason for breaking out and killing Psychologist Dad might have been rooted in Hyun telling him about the start of his isolation - Joon-Young probably had a grudge against Hyun's Dad because of the dismissive attitude, but if he recognized the first signs of a man who would segregate his son... Then it's just the same pattern as what Min might be doing: killing a person who symbolizes the person you want to kill.

Hyun is going to have a really hard time if that one meeting with Joon-Young resulted in both his dad's death and Min's kidnapping.

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By killing Hyun's dad, LJY freed Hyun from being isolated from society like he was when he was a child. LJY helped Hyun not turn out like him.

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But LJY was segregated and shunned - Hyun was being segregated and visited constantly by a loving father who was certainly making a mistake with that segregation, but not cruel. Besides, all LJY knew what that Hyun's dad thought he was a monster - Hyun wasn't locked up yet.

I'm sure LJY sees it as saving a kid from a cruel father, but that wasn't the reality.

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What was LJY's purpose for visiting the house the moment he escaped prison? What happened to Hyun and Min weren't his intention but a consequence of his actions. He didn't know Hyun was locked up but he knew how Hyun was being treated. He didn't take Hyun with him like his father was afraid of. He didn't take Min with him but it happened like so. By killing the father, he freed Hyun from the confines of suspicion, a childhood where even his father doesn't trust him and thinks of him as a monster. A monster can be a monster because people thought he was a monster. How would Hyun grow up without being treated like one? People in the same situations will not react in the same manner but people in different situations can react in the same manner. There only needs to have a predisposition to that kind of behavior. LJY said he is a good judge of character, didn't he? That's what I meant. Sorry I wasn't very clear.

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it comes across as a fusion between a korean and one of those usa drama, you know those where the male and female leads dance around each other but never quite commit well untill season ten or something, what I mean is I can get the feeling that that is a serial drama rather than a one off with an ending like most korean drama and can totaly see it easily leading on to a season two and so on with the format they have now.

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What an intelligent show! It's amazingly well written. The suspense keeps you on your toes. Thanks for the recap.

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I already felt an unexplainable sympathy for Lee Junyeong and Min before this episode. They struck me as closed off individuals that are seeking for understanding but because they don't fit in any of society's boxes, we see them as monsters. The rules that they're breaking are rules made by society and as they don't follow these rules, we seek to hide them from sight, because they don't fit in. This episode only served to make me feel more for them than ever and I can't help but get irritated at Hyun in some moments because he's on the side of society now. I don't blame him. He's fighting crimes and helping cops and LJY and Min have done horrendous crimes.

Monsters are created as victims of consequences, true, but like the last case showed us, they need to have a predisposition to be monsters first. Humans react differently when put in the same situation. Not everyone would have turned out like LJY or Min if they grew up in the same circumstances.

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I'm not surprised when Hyun countered that he’s not interested in understanding or sympathy with the perpetrator. That answer was so like him. Understandable, with him fighting crimes and all, it was a typical point of view. But that speech is totally the wrong answer for these two twisted people. I cringed when both of them smile creepily after hearing him said it, and made me nervous for his fate. Can't wait to see what Min has up his sleeve for his brother. Will he ever learn the truth about his brother not really abandoning him before it's too late? *chills*

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Did Hyun forgets he has a brother? There were gaps in his memories but he did know he was missing a brother. And he's an FBI profiler and he did not do anything to try and find Min. He DID abandoned Min. I kind of hating him for saying he is not interested in understanding or sympathizing with the perpetrator. He's going to pay for that soon. I just hope Min is not beyond salvation. That would break Hyun.

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actually someone told him his brother was dead when he was little.. i think you need to watch episode 9 again..

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That's why i brought up the fact that he is a crime profiler. Surely with his gut instinct and logic he would want to find out how Min died or at least get the confirmation that Min died?

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Whats up with that guy Choi Eun-Bok, the show mentiond somethings about him all of a sudden and now they have put him in the background, I have the feeling that his character is more than we think

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I agree. He hid his presence at a crime scene and is an orphan. He might be a red herring, but... Maybe he's another child of someone Lee Joon Ho killed? And he's on a parallel path to Ji-An and Hyun, but none of them know it.

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I'm liking that Joon young reveal. Not dramatic but still gives impact. Feels sorry about how he grew up but then Min comes into the scene and that feeling just gone. I cant wait for Hyun to confront Min because damn it, I feels sorry about Min. And kudos to the writers for sticking to their initial plot and not turning it into romcom/other things.

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Yeah I was worried they'd turn romcom because of the ratings. I'm glad they stuck to the plot and the romance is progressing naturally. It doesn't feel forced. Hyun and Jian are developing feelings for each other through each case, like normal people do.

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Thanks for the recap. I am amaze by this drama. Kudos to the writers, to all actors. Seo In Guk's acting is so superb as well as Jang Nara. I am so loving the Special Tast Force cast.

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I was kinda disappointed that they change the title from Hello Monster to I Remember You, and but after marathoning the drama, it finally makes sense! God, how I love this show. It revealed our mystery characters in a way that I'm not used to. Maybe I'm use to big and shocking reveals (i.e Yes, I'm that person!) but this, kinda subtle and brings emotional depth to our characters.

But I'm getting a feeling that there will be a twist or something big. Has anybody noticed the family pictures in Joon Ho/Joon Young's house? Joon Ho told Hyun he has a family but it still hasn't be fully addressed.

Drama aside, Seo In Guk is such an amazing actor. I caught glimpses of High School King Savy but woah, totally blown away by his performances :)

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"I think the reveals were perfectly timed–keeping us prepared through foreshadowing but also providing us more than just the label on the person"

Yes, perfectly timed is the key. When Min was first revealed-was it episode 8?-it did cross my mind that the the storyline could suffer as is the case of far two many dramas. But this keeps getting better and better-- there's ample room for developing the characters. As as mentioned, it's very layered but all these stories weave into a very cohesive direction for the show. Great writing, directing and acting.

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This show, each episode never fails to surprise me. Especially the Three Musketeers's intellectual levels never fail to entertain me.

I have been wondering how could Joon-ho be Joon-young, because he was already young adult during 90s, so he should have the same face now. However, Detective Yang's notebook reveals that he went for plastic surgery and I'd never thought of that! I really like how they reveal Joon-ho's real identity as Joon-young, outlining his psychopathic personality.

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Seo In Guk is HAAAAWT...I love the way they style him--from his hair, down to his shoes. He oozes manliness and confidence. Ughhh. I can't get enough.

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This is one clever drama! All the reveals have been understated n timely and expressions /acting very subtle.

I am glued to this dramaon Mon-Tue.

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Lee Hyun's Dad was a terrible Dad and psychologist...ijs

So glad so many people here are watching the drama

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At the very least he wasn't very good at what he did, but at least that's been consistent throughout: of all people, who would think a psychologist would lock up his son out of suspicion? And now we know he also dismissed Lee Joon Young's true testimony about his parents, and also may have put others at risk by not thinking things through.

And of course we saw that Hyun was at least the part-time adult in that household at a very young age. It's all very interesting.

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Most psychologist are people with deep memorial problems themselves despite having natural instinct for understanding other people (empathy and sympathy). It is the self interest of their own problems which make them interested in the subject. Unless s/he is rational and objective, an emotional psychologist even though he has a knack for understanding other people, will be marred with more issues. Hyun's father fits in this category. He got carried away by his own doubts and fears.

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OMG....spelling mistakes... not memorial, emotional...

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I can't wait for Episode 12 recap. Park Bogeum is killing this drama! He's so good.

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I agree. I find myself anticipating his scenes, wanting to see Min's spectrum of emotion from the subtlest to the most open. Even in his silences Park Bogum's expression just tugged my heart and curiosity.

Park Bogum had been the best thing in Cantabile Tomorrow and he is shaping into the best thing in this series too.

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Agree absolutely. I've watched Ep. 12 and I believe Park Bo Gum gave the most brilliant performance I've seen for a while now. He doesn't over act and is in great control of his craft. He will go very far in his career. I LOVE his subtle and yet passionate acting.

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I am soooo satisfied, as I was thinking that how no one recognized LJY if he is LJH now, and they came up with P.S theory , okay now that gives my mind a rest. About Min, it is okay not to know because he was so little, and Hyeon has a hole in memories.....

By the way Ji An, "animals' natural instinct to extend their generation !!!! " well the theory is right but you should not use in that situation, you just made it worse!!!! :D :D

I took 15 minutes break after the scene, so embarrassed I was!!!!

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OMO....thank you Dramallama for the recap... :D

another great episode to start the week...

a bit shock for LJY's back story, and OMO D.O's eyes...so creepy :0

and ohhhh Min...it's not too late right?your hyung remembered you now, so sad that you felt abandoned but but but....aigoo :)

two thumbs up for uri SIG :D what a great actor you...FANGIRLING mode ON!!! :D

squeeing so much of OTP's moments, just a simple bonding but the feels is there!!

kudos writer-nim PD-nim....keep up the good work!!!

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Thanks for the recap! This show is coming close to KMHM as my favourite drama of the year so far; the intelligent plot, directing, acting and music are all top-notch, a rare treat in kdramaland.

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I LOVE THIS SHOW ... so much. Every Monday I am so depressed about work, and then I remember I have an episode of this to watch :)

One thing bugged me though, I'm not surprised they messed this up... you've been able to have full funeral masses and proper Catholic burials for people who commit suicide for at least the last thirty years as far as I know...

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Some people are old-school religion, just because it's allowed doesn't mean the family follows suit. The family doesn't sound well-adjusted to start with.

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Yes, Catholicism definitely does provide funerals for those who died due to suicide or murder, and all the more the funeral prayers are geared towards hope and giving comfort to the bereaved. I was thinking it was more likely because the family was too ashamed of what happened to the girl (rape and suicide) that kept the Joon Yeong ostracised and incarcerated and the body of the daughter sealed behind a wall. However it was interesting that the room the coffin was in, had unshuttered windows!

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Yes! Those unshuttered windows (not to mention turning Catholicism into a weird cult)! Or maybe not the windows, but the whole room that had laid intact throughout all those years. Considering that punch of people evaporated into thin air after the "burial", at least some sort of police investigation must have been held and I would picture how they turned the whole house upside down with or without an inbuilt tomb. Windows would serve a purpose in that you can see from outside what´s in there and leave it alone, but it´s still weird that no-one had entered the room until now.

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Okay I'm slightly confused by the continuity about that creepy woman.

She released LJY from captivity, and was knocked out. When she regained consciousness, she saw dead bodies all around her. Then what happened? Did LJY knock her out again so that he can take care of the corpses? Since the newspaper reported that the whole house disappeared... (And I don't mind to nitpick but... if LJY has been incarcerated all that time, how did he find the fighting skills and all to murder so many people in one fell swoop?)

I have an uneasy feeling about her, because she turned up at the house oh-so-conveniently. Maybe she too had some form of discreet communication with LJY? After all, they had a sort of connection, since she was his only friend.

If my basic Korean hasn't failed me, I think Joon-ho's text message to Min said "the kid has come to the door". I wonder whom that 'kid' is.

Can't wrap my head around the relationship b/n Min and Joon-ho. He started off by calling LJY 'ajuhsshi' when he woke up in the car, whereas 'sam cheon' (uncle) is a term that's more for relatives, right? And yet Min was also brought up by some other family (possibly the same one as his 'first' client in the show). Obviously neither is very pleased that the other has been trying to get close to Hyeon. Can we have more more more backstory on the evoltuion of this relationship too, please? Not just their individual stories... I've been sorta rooting for our psychotic murderer all this time - mainly because of his friednship (I hope?) with Ji-an, so I'm really glad we get to understand him better here.

*squeal* at Hyeon's protectiveness over Ji-an, and her thinking it's his jealousy hehe. And that pillow shopping! Awww. Now that's on PPL I can get behind, because it was just too funny and cute! And that grouchy, possessive way Hyeon refused help with household chores because that's his hobby! Really loved their conversation on the stairs about Hyeon's past visits to Korea ─ if there's no context, it'll almost look as though they're just having a nice chat.

As some other commentors have mentioned, I really like how the murder cases are interesting in their own right, but also reflect on the complicated relationships, misunderstandings and emotions of our main characters' lives. I really felt for Min when he was in the interrogation room. I wonder if that explains why he has no qualms working with criminals, because that gives him access to the scums that he wants to go all vigilante on?

It's significant that Hyeon's cracking in his personality came through because of his worrying about Min. Like pleading with Indebted Friend for help, then thanking him for his hard work.

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Honestly, I'm kind of wondering if Ghost Lady is also the woman in the pictures at Joon Ho's house, his family overseas. She's got such a weird affection for him even in her statement, and you're right that there's a bizarre gap between "thirteen people vanished" and her stating that she actually saw everyone dead.

She has to have some ongoing connection with Lee Joon Young, she was definitely waiting to deliver a message to Hyun.

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You know, with the information that shed light to the past, like Hyun's father's mistake in assessing/profiling Lee Joon Young (and Hyun), the Prosecutor's confession of fabricating evidence including in Lee Joon-Young's case, and the fact that he didn't kill the girl who tended to him... I am beginning to speculate that maybe, just maybe, Lee Joon Young did not commit those murders... himself...

Although he might have manipulated others to do it for him.

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Wait, the prosecutor fabricated evidence? I missed that - what happened?

I'm not sure who else LJY would've been in contact with in that house who he could've manipulated, other than the woman herself, so I do think he killed his family. Of course I'm also biased since if LJY isn't a killer then Min definitely IS, and I kind of want Min to get out of this somehow... Though I don't think he will.

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CMIIW.

I think it was in episode 6 (yup. checked with the recap) that Prosecutor Shin admitted to fabricating/planting evidence on the man who was convicted for having murdered the wife and daughter. He also alluded to similar approach on LJY's case, which Shin handled, with the help of Hyun's father, and posed the question “If your father did do it, was what he did good or evil?” (- episode 6 recap by rejoycie)

At the beginning of the series, the strongest impression I got from young LJY was that he was a master manipulator. He seemed to enjoy "twisting" people. He somehow planted doubts on Hyun's father about Hyun. He also manipulated Hyun into telling his secret (episode 12), "Father thinks I'm a monster, but the real monster is Min." LJY also influenced Chief Hyun to let him have visitor, using her insecurity of being a police woman in male-dominated police environment.

I have no doubt Min had committed murder. He could also have used others (like the purple flower case). Min, sadly, would likely meet a tragic end.

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Would like to add how the Ghost Lady described young LJY. Everyone in the house feared him even as a child, suggesting some of them may have had contact. No mention of violent acts committed (like cruelty to animal, or a fit of rage) that might have scared the whole house. Yet she described him as able to see through people.

I assumed another family member or two had beaten LJY, such as the grandfather that was mentioned in the recording. I wouldn't be surprised if he had driven his biological mother mad and into suicide just by talking to her.

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@webby replying to the whole thread here.

I would kinda root for that version too! After that part with Shin, I also wondered about LJY getting framed, and sorta 'basking' in people's fearful misunderstanding about him. The logical loophole though, is that either Min or LJY would have been the killers behind all those corpses that were disposed into the sea.

But I also just read this other theory (http://noonasoverforks.com/i-remember-you-episode-12-recap/) - scroll all the way to the poster's comments - that maybe Min is NOT a murderer yet, but being groomed by LJY and taught to dispose the bodies. That's reasonable, since this show has proven to be full of twists. But since we're back at the either-LJY-or-Min-has-to-have-killed, I'd rather pick Min as the innocent one. (I talk as though I have any sway over Writer-nim haha!) Min does seem a little bit more redeemable at this current age, like the way he seemed to light up in ep 10, when he realised that Hyeon was worried for his safety.

Could also be that LJY started off framed, but decided to jump full swing into killing after the injustice of being jailed.

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Oops I meant in episode 12!

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One thing that bothers me too is that LJY was noted for "murders without bodies" but that old house was literally filled with bodies. Hence, how did he dispose of them? All those years incarcerated in the attic, he must have perfected such an elaborate plan to kill and dispose of them. I want to know how he did it, and I wonder of the ghost lady has got a hand on it. Some part of me is even wondering if the ghost lady looks anything like the woman that was projected to be his wife in his family home. But if she did, Hyun would have noticed, wouldn't he? For sure, though, Hyun knew the ghost lady was waiting for him. There's got to be more from that character than just being a passing informant.

Also, episode previews dictated that a "new character" will be introduced. She's got to be more significant...

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Could be possible. In ep 10, while Ji An shared her thoughts to Joon Ho about the girlfriend living normally if she didn't meet the pervert brother, he had this weird expression. At first I thought maybe it was about Min. But this kinda makes more sense.

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Ooh, it'll be interesting, if she's part of his fake family. I say fake, because I just don't think LJY can have a romantic connection with someone else, with a family and all...

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@osmatnhus tea

“the kid has come to the door”. I wonder whom that ‘kid’ is.

That "kid" is probably Hyun, which would prove that LJY has contact with the Ghost Lady and she was all ready and set to tell Hyun what happened in that house.

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Oops! Sorry, I meant osmanthus tea:)

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No problem! (=

*but* it seems strange to me for LJY to talk to Min and refer to Hyeon as 'that kid'. Instead of 'that man' or 'your brother'. I feel that when ambiguous references such as this is used in a conversation, both parties would share the same reference. Like if LJY calls someone a kid, then that person should also be a plausible 'kid' age to Min.

Am I confusing you instead? X=

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I see the problem here, it does sound weird. Though, who else could it be? In the subbed version I watched, it was already translated as "He´s..." not "the kid", so I didn´t think of it much as I understand very little Korean. Seems kind of troublesome to bring in another character so late in the game, don´t you think? There have been some theories concerning Eun-bok flying around, though.

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Perhaps, could it be referencing a previous conversation they had that we weren't shown? Though Min's confused look as he received that message does not help deductive reasonings at all.

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Yeah I like that even Dad and Foster mother who would have been typical good characters were given layers. It's consistent in showing us that not everyone is plain evil and plain good. We can be good, but have a monster in us. Or a monster, but have good in us.

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Yes! Normally the head patting would be met by either a A) stop-that-now bickering or B) sinking into a sorta one-dimensional sweetness that puts the female character at the receiving end... but Ji-an was instead reciprocating with her own concern for him.

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I think this is the best show airing right now along with OMG. Everything's perfect. The acting, the characters , pace of the show and even the ost . SIG and JN luuuuuuuufff the couple. But what is better is the sinister bromance . Bo gummie you're nailing it! JOON ho is ready to play the psychology professor in Twenty again...guess he doesn't need much training:P

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Spot on. I Remember You and Oh My Ghost up to this point are in a class of their own. The others airing now are really pale in comparison. It's mind boggling that the ratings for this show are still low.

Love Jang Nara and the rest of the casts and I hope the drama will continue to wow us. *fingers crossed*

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You know I'm getting really tired of dramas giving their villains sob stories. You suffered so you must make others suffer? WTF! I don't claim to understand our villain's suffering and I do in fact have sympathy for the child he was but none for the adult he became. If anything, he of all people should want not to inflict hurt because he knows what it feels like to be on the receiving end. Maybe that's an impossible standard to hold a person up to but would be a more reasonable reaction to his story. Regardless, his suffering does not make the suffering he has inflicted understandable and just once I'd like a drama to make that point. That coupled with the fact that we don't get many sympathy inducing storylines for the victims makes for a very dangerous narrative in a social construct.

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That's the complexity of human nature. We react to things differently. It's not giving villians a sob story. It's giving proper human emotions to characters. There is a story behind every "monster" out there, especially in real life. It does not excuse their crimes, but sheds light to how twisted society has become.

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In this drama's case, I do appreciate that they call it out explicitly in the morgue: the Three Psychoteers basically state that LJY unearthed his story to inspire feelings of sympathy, and Hyun flat-out says "yeah, no". He gets that there's a horrible backstory but doesn't believe it impacts future events, and says that right to the suspected LJY's face.

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Oh yeah that as totally my favorite part...

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I'm waiting for someone to play the "Cool motive.Still murder." card.

Bad thing things happening in your life doesn't mean you get a free pass for murder. By the end of the drama I'm hoping Min is in prison but Hyun visits him every week.

Maybe he cuts a deal to help catch the bigger bad guy idk.

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"Bad thing things happening in your life doesn’t mean you get a free pass for murder. "

In the world we know, it sure doesn't. But then this drama poses the question back at us so eerily, "Why not?"

For our "villains", they've suffered abandonment of inhumane proportions. To them, if they themselves were subjected to all that, why should everyone else be exempted? As young LJY it, "Why isn't it ok to hurt other people?"

But to Hyun, the power of the choice remains untarnished. For Hyun, the value is in CHOOSING to be UNLIKE the ones that hurt you.

This is where the contrast of the brothers and the use of mirroring images, plus the two wolves, book, etc, etc.... It all ties up so brilliantly. Dark vs. Light.

Yet Hyun's character isn't all cookie-cutter good. He is filled with immense shades of greys (Christian Grey should be embarrassed). When he does realize that Min is his brother and that his brother his a killer, will he or will he not choose to protect his brother? Isn't protecting a killer a choice leaning towards the darker veil?

See how the drama throws that back at us so poignantly? It sets off a debate that will fire up the current moralities we know. It's brilliant. And the use of religion-- religion is truly one of the most judging standards out there, the argument is ON for this writer.

I am cannot be enough of a fan girl for this production.

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It is not giving sob story I recommend you to look into REAL psychopath murederers back story and you will see neither of them have happy family background you see this show focus on answers how could a human being turns into monster Rather than solving cases.

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Exactly. This reaction to finding out bad people also have a human side to them is exactly why bad people turn out bad. Because we treat them as monsters and that's the whole point of Hyun's story and how his father suspected and treated him.

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Hi to all fellow commenters who posted replies to mine. I thought I'd respond in just one consolidated comment in response instead of addressing individual ones because I felt the thread will get too complicated otherwise.

Some of your responses have been in synch with mine, some have also pointed out how the show isn't trying to justify the psychopath's behaviour but showing how it happened. Some have pointed out the effects of specific kinds of influence during childhood years. All valid points that I'm not arguing against.

My point though is this...
The way I'm reading the situation Joon Ho has thus far made every effort to imply "no I'm not to blame for being a psycho, look at my upbringing, or I can't help my self I was born evil" Its a complete abdication of responsibility that I think is a dangerous narrative.

That first time he killed, it was his family, and that act I can understand (though not condone) as being carried out in a rage. But every subsequent act was all on him. Some might say that all he saw in his formative years was cruelty and that's what he replicated. But kindness, like cruelty, is learned behavior and I refuse to believe no-one has been kind to him since (he could not have gotten to where he has without it), and yet that is a lesson he refused to learn.
And I hate watching this trope play out in multiple dramas, even in some english ones, and there are better ways and if this drama pulls it off it will be my favourite drama ever. It's not impossible either Agents of Shield for eg tackled it very well in ward's story.

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LJY pointed out to Jian that 10 people put in the same situation would react differently to make his point about the psycho girlfriend of the man who abducted and killed women. That to me, show that he was aware of his own choices. So i am really interested to see how the writer/s would tie up the ending. Yes, that Ward storyline was refreshing. Good point.

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Most of the time when shows put in these crime dramas on tv especially the really heinous ones, it is usually a special case. They are not saying this is a commonly committed crimes so when you see one with a horrible past it is supposed be the "one in million" type cases. When dealing with serial killers, they tend to have some seriously messed up childhoods. I am sure when they first started out in life and going through the hell that they were dropped in, I am sure they tried not to hurt another person. Everyone have different levels of toleration. With these serial killers who have been tortured, they eventually reached their toleration level and lashed out. When lashing out, they found a release and probably realize they have a taste for killing.

Granted in this series, the villain did not get any assistance until he lost all hope and dropped deep into his psychosis. The lead male was given similar situation, but he did not choose the same path as the villain did. Instead, he is helping the team of cops with their day to day cases. The lead and female are the only ones looking for the villain while the rest of the team is obvious to the fact.

Sorry I rambled. I truly love the discussion for this show. There so many lovely debates and I am enjoying each and everyone of them.

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Okay I am not sure why it place my response here. I was responding to 39th post with Niyati

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BEST SHOW AIRED RITE NOW!!
WHAT A WASTE IF U DON'T WANT TO PAY ATTENTION TO THIS SHOW..
but i really appreciate if the recap could be post at least a day after the show aired. n i curious why were the rating in korea is low compared to "High society" . This drama is really good. i really like this drama plot.. the journey of watching this drama is like a "mind game" experience. Anyway.. thanx @dramallama for recapping this show.. (^^)

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This drama is criminally underrated. I don't know about High Society as I'd never interested to see it. Talk about bad ratings, even the stupid 'The Time I've Loved You' got higher ratings percentage than this one *shakes head*

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I would agree. And being murdered or committing suicide do not keep the body or soul from heaven in Catholic teaching. It's not a sin to be murdered, and even though suicide is a sin, it does not keep one from heaven. Souls will go to Purgatory for cleansing; hence the drawing of Dante's vision on the wall.
That being said, entirely apart from their religion, the whole family was mentally unstable. Instead of helping their daughter heal, they shamed her, leading her to feel ashamed of her child and of herself. They had at least 13 servants, so they must have been relatively wealthy. This, more than anything, seems like it might have been the motivation for hiding the incident and the child--to not "disgrace" the family name. But that kind of behavior only perpetuates crimes against women. Example: Joon Young.
That reminds me, if Joon Young killed Hyun's mother, and he is killing his mother over and over (?), then what about Hyun's mother resembles his own?

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I´m not sure if Joon Young killed Hyun´s mother. I´m still waiting on that one. As far as we know, the rob and murder LJY was charged with was based on fabricated evidence (there was a body this time) and Hyun´s dad was behind the fabrication according to the now dead Prosecutor. I´ve had a suspicion for a while that Hyun´s mom died in an accident and kids were at fault, which would explain why dad jumped the gun and locked Hyun up. Then again, even if there were signs that the "accident" might´ve been somewhat premeditated or helped along, it dosen´t explain why Dad would pull such a drastic move like using his wife´s death to frame LJY, so let´s hope he toyed with someone else´s corpse. I also don´t think the show would go that dark and crazy-ville, because then we just can´t have any sort of redemption either for Min or even Hyun.

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And something doesn't make sense: if Joon Young killed everyone in the household, why not the one lady? What was their relationship?

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Because he was the only one who was probably nice to her. He killed everyone except the one person who brought him food and didn't treat him like dirt.

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"Because she was the only one who was probably nice to him."

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this show is criminally underrated, it makes me angry..

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Yes, most definitely criminally underrated, with no pun intended, I suppose? :-)

If it's true that KBS was also targeting international audiences in airing Hello Monster/I Remember You, then perhaps it's great news for the future direction of Korean dramas. A move beyond repetitive storylines centering on chaebols/candies/melodrama/romance/interfering parents/makjang, ad nauseam, that perhaps appeals to an aging demographic of domestic viewership. And a move towards fresher, more intelligent scripts that are more relatable to an international audience.

Not that I haven't enjoyed dramas with such plots, I certainly have. But I've found myself sated with the sameness and have skipped more than a few in the last year or two after reading the descriptions.

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I *really* hope that KBS is going into this with their eyes wide open, and standing firm against domestic sentiment. I suppose they are, since the writing seems unhindered by the relatively lower domestic ratings.

If it's just pure luck that KBS is not interfering with the storyline due to relatively lower domestic ratings, then it's less likely that they'll continue giving such original plots a chance in the future...

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Thank you for the recap.

How did Min and Hyun's father create such smart boys because it seems their father was a terrible psychologist.

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It is probably because of the mom. I am sure they will tap into that backstory soon since it was mention Hyun had his first memory loss after his mother's death.

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so here's what running in my mind about the ending...there's a big possibility that he would really kill his brother a.k.a Hyun by Min and maybe Hyun will die just to end up Lee Hyeon quest for making each brother kill each other...but then either Cha Ji An or a written diary will be read by Min in the end just to prove that they were being manipulated by a person their father trying to help and he will know the real story about his abandonment.
if Hyun die i think i can actually accept that kind of ending but it will sting like hell...hu hu hu hu..

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So, something is bothering me.

Like, people don't really change after turning adult, how they do not recognize Joon-ho ? Other big plot hole: His voice.

Like, if they keep hearing the recorded talking between David's father and Joon-ho, HOW they do not connect the dots: "Heard this voice somewhere" " Joon-ho's voice is the same/similar" like, hello? He was arrested when he was already big enough, and his voice would not change after years.

This aside, I really like the main girl, haha she is smart, does her cop role well, and isn't shy about showing her feelings.

The main guy is charming and smart too, and has chemistry with the main girl, what not love?

WHY. why. why this drama has such low ratings??

Other bad cop dramas got much higher ratings.

Another thing: DO fans are a bit annoying. Like the guy himself looks creepy, so he does well doing creepy roles. Give him comedy or romantic role and he won't be as good as people claim. He is decent but wish his fans would stop

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The murdered ppolice officer was trying to track through clinics, as it is likley that he had plastic surgery.

Regarding the voice, especially with young male adults the voice changes. I think it is even possible to alter voice with an operation. Crazy, but people do a lot of things, so why not change the voice with an operation. I don't think this qualifies as a plot hole.

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I like your answer. Also to expand more, I think the killer was like 17 or 18 when he was in jail with Hyun's father. He was not that grown yet. Most guys voices tend to get deep up until their mid 20's and their bodies do not finish mature until then too. If you ever seen a picture of a guy in his late teens and early 20's and compare it to a picture of them from mid 20s and up, you can tell maturity difference. The voice reacts in similar fashion.

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You can change your speaking voice, voice actors do it all the time.

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D.O looks creepy so of course he would do well with creepy roles? Did you watch IOIL and Cart because he wasn't creepy in those roles but he did great. IOIL he was a happy cheerful figment of SIG's imagination. Give credit where credit is due. You think all those comments about him are just his fans? He won't have received a positive response since his first acting project if that's the case. Why are you so bothered by his fans in the first place. You just sound like you're whining at this point.

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@liz First of all i get your point. Its true selection may based on how much someone's appearance fits the image of the role but it does not mean they can act spot on. When he gives audience goosebumps with just his gaze what do you think he was thinking? Most likely "I am not an idol who pleases their fans I am a psychokiller who scares people. Nothing can be done right? Since I am all alone in this world and nobody tries to understand me..." So that's why he can have such a vibe which is not possible for an idol.
@ian agreed. He does look totally adorable and pitiful at the same time in IOIL^^

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My guess is that the "I <3 my keyboard" cop is that he is someone whose identity got stolen by Min. Remember when Hyun art dealer friend told him that nothing suspicious about Lawyer Jeong family background while the "I <3 my keyboard" cop came from an orphanage..maybe the cop found something about this exchange (supposedly done by Lee Joon Young) and gearing up for avenging his status (?)

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There was a part from the early episodes before the Judge died when he had a few lawyers in his home including Min and he was reminiscing a story about a boy who was suspected of killing his friend in an orphanage? I wonder if this has anything to do with 'I <3 my computer guy'?

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I think that is probably the reason why he let her live.... Because she is the only one who treat him like a human being....

Tax for the recap..

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THANKS for the recap...i am speechless... speechless from the day this drama start...
:D i am feeling proud on my selection of this drama, it was like 1 to 2 month before i made my mind for this drama...... it is worth watching... i have nothing to critic.. everything is just fine with the drama...

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