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51 a_fan
October 8, 2010 at 5:02 PM
I am not watching SKKS. None of the boys/men there have that just out of the shower yet dry slightly curly let-me-run-my-fingers-through-through-your-hair hair.
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anon
October 8, 2010 at 8:57 PM
LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm also watching Playful Kiss.
Count me in the just-out-of-the-shower-yet-dry-slightly-curly-let-me-run-my-fingers-through-your-hair-Baek-Seung-Jo camp!
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anon (another one)
October 9, 2010 at 2:00 AM
Well I love my men wet in the rain instead XD.
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a_fan
October 10, 2010 at 9:29 PM
thursday. you'll get him. I'm told.
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52 Ora
October 8, 2010 at 5:34 PM
Very heartbroken that Christine will be played by an Asian actress instead of an Caucasian actress...want to call all sorts of bad names but I can't do that can I?
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sfax
October 8, 2010 at 10:56 PM
course you can only if you tell us what exactly you are talking about...
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diadda
October 9, 2010 at 12:25 AM
So much has changed with PK from any of the other versions. Christine not being a foreigner(white) is at the edges of things I would say are different. They merged two main plot characters since they had less time to work with. They also changed lots of the motivations of the characters. Which is why I am taking it as an entirely different show that uses the outline of (in my opinion) a better concept and executed production.
As a stand alone piece it is inoffensive and lightly fluffy. After seeing what was done to Itazura na Kiss. I had to let go my hopes for a deeply motivating life altering love and go with "How I met your mother."
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53 WW
October 8, 2010 at 6:00 PM
So disappointed that even though I live in New York, I won't be able to see javabeans and girlfriday at nycc! But it's junior year of high school, and there's nothing I can do for another year and a half ...
Thanks for all the recaps, they make my day :)
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54 minnetter
October 8, 2010 at 6:09 PM
Geez this year has been a busy one in drama land so far I have watched:
Oh My lady!- hot siwon (dimples!!)! Cute ahjumma Chae Rim! It wasn't the best drama but it won my heart, there were many cute moments <3
Loving You a Thousand Times- Jung Gyu Woon hot husband!! He made me cry^^ Which is why I don't understand when people say he can't act to save his life... I started watching this drama because Kim Hee Chul was in it (I know, I know shameless ELF) but I started watching only JGW's scenes and his, everything else I skipped if possible. I hated the ending
Birth of a Rich Man- Lee Si Young!! loved her character Tae Hee... hated everyone else... I couldn't relate to any of them... hated Bo Young's character very badly... It's the first time that I don't watch a drama for it's main characters and instead only care about the supporting cast.... i even loved Tae Hee's lying cheating daddy^^
Ob/Gyn - Loved Joong Ki^^ also Dr. Seo but I felt that sometimes the episodes didn't run smoothly so I was lost as to what was the overarching story...
Chuno- Jang Hyuk!!! dear lord I spent so many sinful hours lusting for his body... it was hard not to with that handsome body of his all ruggedly manly being flaunted everywhere... hahahaha
Stars Falling from the Sky- oh my dear Kim Ji hoon he's pretty awesome as a sarcastically witty guy... he made a terribly cliche character heartwarming^^
Personal Taste- Lee min ho was upgraded as an actor in my eyes with this drama...
Pasta- the song was my favourite part!! J/k though I did love it since it's SJ Kyuhyun; but my favourite was "Mr. Voice" definitely loved how teasing and mean he could be when he was in the kitchen... lol
Cinderella Sister: it was too angsty for me.. I dropped out at the 6th episode... I only watched clips with the song sung by SJ Yesung!
Coffee House! - KJH was too awesome as the quirky writer and I loved Park Si Yeon as the confident yet low-key kind of professional woman.. ~
My Personal Favourite: My Girlfriend is a Gumiho!! not only did I find Seung gi cute and adorable and a great boyfriend once he admitted that he liked Mi Ho I fell in girl love with Miho!Shin Mina is too adorable!
Am Watching:
Dr. Champ - i'm liking it so far
Playful Kiss - I am watching it to relax and with no great expectations for it.. it's a calm drama (oxymoron isn't it?)
I will eventually watch:
a) SKKS
b) Dandelion Family (because I like Lee Yoon Ji and feel she's underrated)
c)Bad Guy
d) Call of the Country
e)Jejungwan
f) The Great Merchant
g) The Reputable Family
h) Baker King Kim Tae Gu
I am Definitely Watching
-Athena!! (Siwon!!)
-Mary Stayed Out all night (JGS!!)
and I am looking forward to Taiwanese drama:
-Extravagant Challenge/Glamorous Challenge (skip beat manga based drama with SJ Choi Si Won!! and SJ Lee Dong Hae!! and of course Taiwan's princess Ariel Lin)
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55 MyLabyrinth
October 8, 2010 at 6:18 PM
@ Viola - have you seen JB and GF?! Btw, your happy-bubble story was so relatable. Sometimes the just dig through the blips to the I'm-so-happy-nothing-else-matters mood is a hard reach.
As for films, has anyone seen 'My Mom'? I saw it last night (Dramacrazy - eng subs) and boy am I glad I always keep tissues next to me. Although the story was not original, the incredible acting lent it an extra layer of emotional depth. Kim Hae-sook, as the mom, plays a compelling character from beginning to end and Park Jin Hee, as the daughter, is on form yet again. With some scenes it almost felt like they're a real-life mother and daughter. Way to go Korea, we should have a Mother's Day themed film here in England!
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Viola
October 8, 2010 at 11:03 PM
Yep, I saw them! I posted the links too! :)
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56 Aya
October 8, 2010 at 6:18 PM
"Ban on 'gay drama' in prison creates stir
Does watching a TV drama featuring a homosexual relationship cause men to become gay?
The Ministry of Justice and some parents apparently think so."
YES, this is no joke, they really believe it and you can read the
article @
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2010/10/117_74155.html
This is the second big controversy for family drama Life is beautiful.
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Carinne
October 9, 2010 at 1:43 PM
Oh man! Being gay is not "infectious," however I can understand the fear from parents stigmatizing TV brainwashing certain individuals to stir curiosity and experiment their sexual prowess range. If an individual is certainly curious about that way of life then there is no way in hell you are able to stop him/her.
Utterly boring people are more eager to try anything new endangering consequences. I simply hope these people will practice safe sex for their own wellness, just as the rest of us heteros need to do more often to reduce over population.
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57 whatis
October 8, 2010 at 8:06 PM
alright, I'd like to take this friday's open thread to once again declare my love for Guh-ro!!! I ABSOLUTELY LOOOOOOOOVE HIM!!! <3 <3 <3
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58 viola
October 8, 2010 at 10:17 PM
PICTURES
And the story continues...
Even after living in NYC for 14 years I managed to get lost on the way to the Javit Center... and who should I ask for direction? A tourist. Who arrived in NYC only yesterday. I should have just followed the ninja fox (?) with the artillery gun. Excuse me, while I go bang my head.
I walked about 7 avenues, which doesn't sound like much, but they are very LONG avenues, I think about a mile and half. I got in with only 15 minutes left to redeem my ticket. If I got in only a little bit later, I would have had to resort to bribing some kids for their passes like nycgirl and hkjmo did.
But it was all worth it! I got to meet JB and Gf! I had to hold in the Inner fan girl, but I think she slipped the leash on occasion!
The composition of the panel was very funny, two guys squished into one corner then a long row of five girls. When JB, GF, and the other women talked about dramas, Jamier (with a French accent) said he felt kinda emasculated. rofl!. He could not stop talking about the abs of the Korean celebrities - Rain's abs in particular. :)
At one point, He asked something along the line of why are K dramas were so popular. There was a brief silence.. how can you describe color to the blind?
GF tied though, she said: "Because it is crack!" tee hee.
After the panel was over, there was a paparazzi mob of flashing cameras, JB and GF were very surprised. I think they were absolutely amazed though, when we asked them for autographs.
I guess they had no idea what a special place they hold in our heart. Both JB and GF were both very sweet and approachable and funny and intelligent and...excuse me for a bit ..*bad fangirl! stop slipping your leash* Oh, where was I..yeah they signed many autographs and took many pictures, because they are awesome like that!
So this is the spoil of my hard fought victory against the universe :
http://www.flickr.com/photos/54669715@N04/?saved=1
Enjoy!
p.s. Unnie, am I the best sister or what?
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D
October 8, 2010 at 10:26 PM
many thanks viola..
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Leonardswench
October 8, 2010 at 10:44 PM
Awesome, Viola!!!!
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Viola
October 8, 2010 at 10:44 PM
grr.. I was too exited to edit the post. Please forgive the errors.
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kc
October 8, 2010 at 10:50 PM
you're awesome to the highest level!!!
You deserve a kiss... mwah!!!!
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Viola
October 8, 2010 at 11:06 PM
Now, if you were Choi Si Won I would take you up on it in a heartbeat.... *hopefully* You aren't are you?
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kc
October 8, 2010 at 11:30 PM
Really sorry to burst your bubble.
That is just too much to ask.
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kc
October 8, 2010 at 11:31 PM
Really sorry to burst your bubble.
That is just too much to ask. LOL
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a_fan
October 9, 2010 at 6:02 AM
in real life Siwon is married. Siwon is not even his real name!
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Viola
October 9, 2010 at 1:46 PM
Siwon is MARRIED?!!! oh
*deploying teflon-coated happiness shield* Why is my shield wobbling? *sniffs*
a_fan
October 9, 2010 at 2:03 PM
his wife works for a musical production company. She was Siwon's daughter's nanny. She has a daughter of her own.
Leonardswench
October 10, 2010 at 2:02 PM
Wow! Would love to know the source of that 'fact', since he's been pretty open in interviews that it's not time for him to be married now, and to keep with the theme of this post (which is mostly, back up your facts, ma'am!), here are my sources for disagreeing with you (but really, no disrespect, but if you heard it on a fan forum, well ..... just saying, there's nothing like gossip to get in the way of, you know, facts):
http://sup3rjunior.wordpress.com/2010/04/27/choi-siwon-interview-korean-hurricane-magazine-april-2010-issue/
and
http://fuckyeahchoisiwon.tumblr.com/post/438765939/transcript-siwons-interview-in-high-cut
Leonardswench
October 10, 2010 at 6:14 PM
Awww ... good to know it was a joke, but I missed that other conversation, which would have helped a lot! :D Off to watch more Giant!
a_fan
October 11, 2010 at 2:49 PM
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/3329/53412835201010091712516.jpg
brookeeve
October 9, 2010 at 3:39 PM
Speaking of Siwon (who isn't married...)
Have you seen this, little sister?
http://www.iamvanness.com/
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Viola
October 10, 2010 at 3:50 PM
You two are like mother bears so protective! I am so very touched! *sniffle* hugs to you both! Thank your for the links Brookeve and Leonardswench, I really enjoyed reading his interview and I will definitely buy the cd.
About Siwon being married thing, I got the joke only after a_fan mentioned it was to a woman who worked in a musical company. I think on the last OT there was a conversation thread about Siwon's fantasy family from Oh My Lady. It was cute. :)
p.s. a_fan we met on the convention righ? I remember you telling me your handle was a_ something... if that was you then Hi! :)
pohonphee
October 8, 2010 at 11:50 PM
Thanks Viola....*Hugh*
Been waiting all this weekend for someone post some news about this.
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estelle
October 9, 2010 at 12:24 AM
Omo! Thank you so much viola for the precious pictures of the 2 multi-talented drama goddesses. You must have been the happiest fangirl alive! Am so jealous of you... ;P
Now we (the zillions of fangirls all over the world) finally know how our idols look like! :D
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ockoala
October 9, 2010 at 12:29 AM
I want a JB for Thanksgiving and a GF for Christmas. Sigh, our darlings are simply too cute. XD
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hjkomo
October 9, 2010 at 4:20 PM
Ditto.
But with soju. ;)
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hjkomo
October 9, 2010 at 4:23 PM
And what happens in NY, stays in NY. Just saying... ;)
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Javabeans
October 9, 2010 at 4:33 PM
Thank ye drama gods for that!
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October 9, 2010 at 12:48 AM
Wwwaahhh!!! JB and GF are so cute and cooll!!!!! Amazing! Kyaahh!!! *fangirling* thanks viola for the pic!
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brookeeve
October 9, 2010 at 2:06 AM
You are the most amazing, bestest, most fantastic, smartest, most beautiful sister in the world.
Now I have to stop crying.
I can't believe you did that!
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Viola
October 9, 2010 at 3:26 AM
I am glad you liked it. :)
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djeedjes
October 9, 2010 at 2:48 AM
thanks! wee finally we can see how these awesome girls look like.
Next time JB & GF do a podcast, I can imagine them chatting and giggling, now with real faces. hehe.
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Janna
October 9, 2010 at 2:57 AM
What can I say?
Amazing/Wonderful/Beautiful and I'm jealous! Thanks for sharing~
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anon
October 9, 2010 at 6:43 AM
awwwww...... thank you for posting the photos viola.
it's so nice to know how jb and gf look.
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October 9, 2010 at 7:41 AM
thanks viola for the pics!!
we envy you coz you got to meet the the kdrama muses jb and gf!
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October 9, 2010 at 7:45 AM
thanks viola for the pics!!!
we envy you coz you met the kdrama muses, jb and gf!
but good to hear that they enjoy the comic con!
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Ashley
October 9, 2010 at 11:01 AM
Awww! They look like they were having fun :) It was very sweet of you to take pictures for all of us, and to include brookeeve and Lahlita in your good fortune. You strike me as a very sweet person.
Would you mind telling us a bit more about what was discussed?
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Viola
October 10, 2010 at 1:38 AM
Thank you for calling me sweet! *blush*
I will write a longer, more descriptive post about what was discussed. It will take me a while to get to it though, I have two papers due this week. Hmm... perhaps on the next ot? :)
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pohonphee
October 10, 2010 at 6:15 AM
oh yes the next OT will be great, I won't miss it. Thank you so much...
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kc
October 10, 2010 at 5:46 PM
Next OT? I'll be looking forward to that.
Another kiss for you my friend.... Mmmmwah!
Carinne
October 9, 2010 at 2:38 PM
N I C E !!
Thank you for sharing.
How tall is GF? o , 0
I think JB and GF look like they had a victorious shopping spree in NYC. I can get jealous about that.
Is someone sending a msg she likes people in uniform? Keke~ That's fine, I'm like that. I have officers in my family and friends too. ^ , ^
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hjkomo
October 9, 2010 at 4:19 PM
She was in cosplay as a SNSD girl. ;)
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bluepenguin
October 9, 2010 at 3:43 PM
Hello to the proprietors Javabeans and Girlfriday!
Hello dear Open Thread community! Hello Viola!
I am a longtime lurker and I am really glad to hear updates about the appearances of JB and GF at comic con ny. I am really grateful to all of the fans who've told us their impressions of hanging out with these awesome women!
I had a question Viola! =) Am I mistaken or are the pictures of JB and GF no longer uploaded on your flickr? I see that only the autographs are now available. I'm thinking that they were taken down at their request? I'd greatly appreciate you clearing up this matter.
I can totally respect that those pictures are not available anymore. I am meerly curious to see if in fact I missed my window of opportunity to get a peek at the wonderful girls!
Thank you!
PS In addition to the EXCELLENT coverage of all things kdrama by our mistresses JB and GF (thank you!), I really enjoy the commentary offered by you - viola - and all the active participants in the community! I find that it's just reassuring and exciting to know that other people are vocal in their fangirlism and deep seated addiction for kdramas! I know I'm not alone in obsessing over SKK 24/7 because all you lot seem insane for it too!
Been loving this site since 07. WE LOVE YOU JAVABEANS AND GIRLFRIDAY!
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Snikki
October 9, 2010 at 8:23 PM
Oh no! I missed the photos, did you take them down? :( I wanna see, too. Any chance I can see them somewhere else?
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Viola
October 10, 2010 at 5:35 PM
I reposted the link, you can see the pictures again :)
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Drama Dazed
October 10, 2010 at 8:06 PM
Viola, you are an absolute darling! Thanks for sharing these lovely pictures with us. I was so disappointed I missed them the first time round.
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bluepenguin
October 11, 2010 at 7:55 PM
Dear Viola,
OH wow! I just saw the message you wrote in response down below and just thank you! That was really great of you! I didn't expect such a detailed explanation, and then on top of that, you reposted those pictures! Ah, thank you for your contributions! We're all so grateful! =)
Javabeans and Girlfriday! ah!!! You two look so attractive, great and confident! And I can tell that the wit these two have exhibited on the recaps radiate out of them even in person. I'm sure that these women, and actually everyone in this community, are lovely people that I'd hit it off with at a party. =)
so much love!
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59 kc
October 8, 2010 at 10:24 PM
The new GAP logo sucks!!!
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Janna
October 9, 2010 at 6:59 AM
While I agree with your sentiment, and this issue has become quite a hot topic I want to remind anyone studying or in design to not point fingers just yet. There's obviously "too many cooks in the kitchen" at Gap and for them to spin the story as a gimmick to raise awareness and then to crowdsource for cheap or free new branding is quite disgusting.
...Also their clothes are getting cheaper and tackier and never seem to fit me right anyways. I want to burn off the gift card I have in my wallet as soon as possible now. Maybe socks are in order. Socks, I say! Socks for everyone!
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Carinne
October 9, 2010 at 2:52 PM
Gawd, petition to revive the old logo. Why change something good?
Haha~ when you get onto their site, new logo appears everywhere else BUT the favicon. Oh yeah!.............
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60 John
October 9, 2010 at 12:03 AM
Fugitive seems so bad...and I'm only 10 minutes into the first episode.
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anon
October 9, 2010 at 2:02 AM
I wanted to like it, but it was really all over the place.
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61 evelia
October 9, 2010 at 12:17 AM
Thank you for the pictures Viola!
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Viola
October 9, 2010 at 3:19 AM
you are welcome :)
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62 ockoala
October 9, 2010 at 12:27 AM
@ viola
Congrats on getting to experience the panel and meeting the rock stars of the drama world (if JB and GF started the Comeback Cyndi Lauper Band I'd totally be their # fan).
All nycgrl got for us was a picture of a hairy Boba Fett, which I responded that I didn't realize JB was so hairy and large.
You rock, girl! Getting in and all. The buying off little kids for their passes was clearly 110% the doing of nycgrl, but desperate times call for desperate measures, right?
Sounds like a great evening was had by all.
@nycgrl, hjkomo
If I peep a tweet before noon you two clearly did not party hard enough afterwards. Is all I'm saying.
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Viola
October 9, 2010 at 3:23 AM
Lol. JB as Bobba Fett...... I think I just broke my brain. Thank you! I can't speak for everyone, but I had fun. :)
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diadda
October 9, 2010 at 4:46 AM
"Comeback Cyndi Lauper Band" is something I can truly get behind. Can I be part of the fan club? Perhaps the Secretary or the person responsible for picking the color balloons we will use in the concerts:)
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nycgrl
October 9, 2010 at 12:51 PM
@ockoala You know I believe in giving the people what they want!
And if I weren't too busy asking kids "psst how much you want for the pass?" I would have additionally uploaded picts of the three Jedi Knights re-enacting the double lightsaber fight sequence from the phantom menace.
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63 v
October 9, 2010 at 3:48 AM
Just ignore me here...
I'm indulging myself and exulting.
Kim Hee Chul is no.1 trending topic today on twitter!!!
*jumps around acting silly*
heechul oppa daebak!
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v
October 9, 2010 at 4:57 AM
I guess today is my day to fangirl.... kk
Supreme Team MV daebak! Yoon Kye Sang daebak!
Suju's Angel daebak!
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v
October 9, 2010 at 10:59 AM
10 hours at the top of twitter trends!!!
Kim Hee Chul Jjang!! Uyu bitgal Kim Hee Chul!!!
tee hee...
forever cinderella!
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minnetter
October 9, 2010 at 11:20 AM
Yay!! a Heenim fan!! yes I was soo excited too!!!! Daebak!! really Daebak!!
(On another note...I've set my sister on deciphering where in LA he was... too bad I'm too far away from my beloved Cali ...)
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minnetter
October 9, 2010 at 11:29 AM
He's still trending and the insane amount of people doing this for him is incredible!^^ very cute Petals^^
on another note... I think he should participate in another drama before he has to go into the army... it's getting near though...
v
October 9, 2010 at 7:34 PM
yep.... trending for 18 hours straight, closing to 19!!!!
Kim Hee Chul JJang!!
wow... at least you have someone in LA. I'm all the way on the Eastcoast.. -_-
And yes, I want him in another drama, if possible, as a main or secondary main... and NOT as the usual "pretty face kid" role he plays.
Andwae!!! I don't want him and teukie in the army! TT
v
October 10, 2010 at 7:10 AM
KIM HEE CHUL TRENDED 30 HOURS and still counting and on top!!!
That has to be a record for an Asian on Twitter...
Other Top Trends due to Heenim's posts:
Steamed Bun, Many Friend Request, Sleeping BANGSIN, Sleepy HEEBUM, HEEBUM, Sulli, Sangchu...
Other trends:
Add Him, Facebook Account.
I have no life....
*goes off tweeting*
64 rambutan
October 9, 2010 at 5:51 AM
Hello Supah, are you there? Sorry I disappeared two OTs ago and didn't reply to your post. Sister flew in for a two-week vacation/visit and we were galivanting around shopping centers, bushwalking and basking in a resort. The two dramas you are looking for - First Love and Special of My Life - are available at aja-aja and AM-A. First Love... do you mean the 1996 version by Choi Soo-jung, Bae Yoon-joon and Choi Ji-woo, or the 2003 version by Jo Hyun Jae, et.al.? I've watched the 1996 version of First Love.
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supah
October 9, 2010 at 3:53 PM
Heys! Glad you've been living it up and having fun! :)
No need for apologies, there's no real rush but thanks for getting back to me. It's this version: http://wiki.d-addicts.com/First_Love_%28SBS%29
OMG, Special of my Life is on AM-A??
*skips off to d/load SOML from AM-A -- hurrah!*
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supah
October 9, 2010 at 3:54 PM
I honestly can't thank you enough! Muah!! xox
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65 cingdoc
October 9, 2010 at 7:04 AM
@viola
Please don't take this in a wrong way...I know we ALL would like to see how our Dynamic Duo look like(me included...I'm not going to lie)but I hope they are ok to have their faces posted online...I think we all love them,but maybe(??) they want privacy...just saying...
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CPW
October 9, 2010 at 9:25 AM
i agreed with cingdoc. many of us have been jb fans for a long time, but we never get to "see" her. we even asked her to post some pics, but she never did. is she ok with it?
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brookeeve
October 9, 2010 at 12:46 PM
I'm going to answer for viola here. When this was in the making, db said that we could now get photographic evidence to dispel the Clark Kent/Superman rumors. Also, both gf and jb were informed via e-mail that there was a planned paparazzi attack for those of us who couldn't be there. They knew that their faces were going to be posted by one of us, but, to quote gf, "JB and I aren't about to put pictures of our own damn selves online (gah, the horror!)."
I don't think that this is something that they are completely fond of, but they knew it was going to happen. We were given indirect permission, which of course was taken advantage of.
I think it's great that you were concerned about this, though!
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66 Janna
October 9, 2010 at 10:58 AM
It took me a while but...This Week in Giant *Spoilers*
First Off, I just wanna say: Frogfacefrogfacebadfamilyfrogface. Ok, done.
CPY has a laugh that almost killed someone. I think like.. it was still a factor. Somehow.
RabiesDawg is serious business. But Jung-shik (whose been demoted to a crappy evil plot device lately) is gonna have the most fashionable casket ever. We'll have to retire bowties from Giant on his departure (and really, when is someone finally gonna get whacked for real with all the pouring cement shoes and then divine saving at last minute this show does. Gonna kill yah! Oh, spared you again! Psh!)
**This Week in Mi-joo Land**
Ok, ok. Mi-joos sound and look seems a little too progressive for the times in my ignorance of Korean 80s music. Am I right or wrong with this? I really have no idea. Did I miss a scene with SM, because how did he go from turning her off in the car to showing up at the entertainment studio just waltzing around like a creeper. Whatever, SM can do whatever he want. Except his one superhero flaw:
He has no tempo. DUNDUNDUN Man clapping and listening is so hardddddd
Song of the week!: SM & KM at the bar: Every time You Go Away, a cover by Paul Young in 1985. I do this because I'm waiting for a chance to point out some time line inaccuracy. I don't know much about fashion (lace frilly socks with heels, that's pretty 80s) so I'm trying with music and other historical facts. You win again this time show...
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supah
October 9, 2010 at 3:36 PM
OK, present for you:
http://www.mediafire.com/?e4ox5h1iu40nr45
S'more instrumentals. The second one entitled 'History', is the metal Giant theme, as heard in the roll-up-sleeves, epic-scale, black comedy sequence. Oh yeaahz!
http://i789.photobucket.com/albums/yy176/supah5/Giant/untitled3.jpg
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Aaand... Seong-mo.... :(
My heart's too weak for the man's tears. Even happy tears.
Yeah, you did miss a few scenes, he'd been hot on her trail for a bit. And come on, this is SM we're on about, at this point in time he knows everything. EVERYTHING. (Apart from RabiesDawg's proper background, maybe.)
Plus janna, a man 'living in the depths of hell' knoweth not the frivolities of... knowing how to clap in tune.
But someone did get whacked, albeit by natural causes (booo!), but seriously man, one fatality is enough per 10 episodes, please.
Yay, Uncle Frogface! There's just no escaping jerks janna, Giant IS jerksville. Here a jerk, there a jerk, everywhere a jerk-jerk.
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Janna
October 9, 2010 at 5:12 PM
Yes! More Tunes!
a man ‘living in the depths of hell’ knoweth not the frivolities of… knowing how to clap in tune omg I died. (but then I came back.)
Well technically JS whacked someone by accident so... that's something.
Jerks! Jerks everywhere! But sometimes techno singing! (Min-woo doing the robot. Yeah try to un-think that possibility. Ok, it would never happen. But I just made you think about it.)
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supah
October 9, 2010 at 5:51 PM
Yeah, JS the M, and even Dawg did something recently.
Ohmahgahh... That scene was so funny. You have to love Mi-joo for giving us crazy moments like those, I'm speaking of the near-miss incident, yeah, I need a copy of MJ's guide to being 'invisible'.
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Janna
October 9, 2010 at 6:23 PM
And then she went back to the SAME CORNER THE NEXT DAY.
Min-woo: What is that insolent craptastic music blaring outside there? I say.. go hire that person, then fire them. Fire them right out of a cannon.
Mi-joo: If I turn around no one can see me! I just can't bend down because my skirt is too short....
67 Leonardswench
October 9, 2010 at 12:03 PM
Do not iron while watching Giant ep 19. Just saying.
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brookeeve
October 9, 2010 at 2:58 PM
Okay, I don't know if that was a promotion, but now I have to put Giant on my list of things to watch just so I know what you're talking about.
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68 beggar1015
October 9, 2010 at 12:53 PM
I'll be the lone voice here and say I'm watching Daemul and liking it. What little I can understand of it. Viikii needs more subbers to help out on the show.
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supah
October 9, 2010 at 3:39 PM
Oh, I've heard Go Hyun-jun is shades of Hye-rin in the second episode, I'll be jumping back in to find out. Wheeee!
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69 Pela
October 9, 2010 at 1:34 PM
I just came across a story about a Korean singer, Tablo, who I admit I don't know much about, who had to film a documentary to prove that he really graduated from Stanford. Really? Seriously! Was there really that much suspicion against him???
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anon
October 9, 2010 at 1:52 PM
Check out this link
http://community.livejournal.com/omonatheydidnt/tag/tablo
The anti fanclub against him has almost 200 000 members.
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Pela
October 9, 2010 at 2:13 PM
Thank you so much for the link. I'm flabbergasted to say the least as to how all of this blew up. The police, court interdicts, arrests, someone's reputation so badly questioned. Even a K drama script writer could have dreamt all of this up. And the really sad thing is that, his academic achievements is something he should be so proud of and for it to be so badly tarnished .... just really sad.
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brookeeve
October 9, 2010 at 3:02 PM
I really don't even understand what the deal is. Does it matter if he graduated from there one way or the other? He's a good musician, why do they care so much about his personal life? Plus, the level at which he raps, the quality of his lyrics... they don't scream dummy to me... just sayin'.
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v
October 9, 2010 at 7:37 PM
Yes... my heart breaks for Tablo... the whole controversy has been going on for MONTHS... and right when he became a father...
Sigh. The scary power of mob mentality.
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70 diadda
October 9, 2010 at 2:58 PM
K, on the subject of Giant...
Does the writer hate women? So far not one woman has been the least bit functional once they pass the age of 10. The men have their faults too, but a good number of just passing by male characters are good and nice. Haven't seen a female yet be any of those things. Every mother is crazy, evil and/or sick. Every daughter/love interest is money grubbing and scheming. I understand about giving the audience the full image of how things were and how things grew from nothing, but do we have to have every female character be a person you wouldn't want to meet. Hopefully one of them in the future turns out ok. So far it is disappointing to say the least about that one aspect, but I still enjoy the show.
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Janna
October 9, 2010 at 3:10 PM
The men have their faults too, but a good number of just passing by male characters are good and nice.
Who do you speak of in this case?
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diadda
October 9, 2010 at 3:49 PM
Example: the father in I think episode 3 and/or 4. While the wife calls child services and tries to get the kids sent to an orphanage cause she doesn't want extra mouths to feed. The father is willing to help in any way he can.
The american military general that sees the older brother hurt at the side of the tracks, could have ditched him in a hospital somewhere, but became a type of ward to him.
All the men that see Gangmo's hard work also treat him with respect if nothing else and most give him a job, while women look down on him or try to hump him.
That is another thing I have noticed... good people don't last in this show long.
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supah
October 9, 2010 at 4:10 PM
''...while women look down on him or try to hump him''.
Whoooaaa... did I miss that part? Heheh!
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Janna
October 9, 2010 at 5:04 PM
I just think with all the business stuff there isn't much opportunity for strong women characters. But I don't really feel Mi-joo is a weak willed or wasted character. Even though Kang-Mo has worked hard he is no saint himself either.
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supah
October 9, 2010 at 5:43 PM
To be fair, it's been a while but at a point even I was like, why are all the women either lounge singers, gisaeng or mere headcount? But then things began balancing out and that notion kind of vanished into thin air.
Mrs Hong gave me a ray of hope back then since I know she's played by a veteran actress from the same fold as say Lee Mi-sook. And then there's the mesmerising Kyeong-ok, Jung-yeon's character growth (though I do wish PJH had a bit more screen presence to match character requirements) and Mi-joo who just steals the show in her every scene.
And then there's Baek-pa's legacy. Look out for this powerful old man, played so wonderfully by old-timer Im Hyuk. 41 and 42 were pretty pivotal episodes for 'strong females' thanks to him (yeah, see the irony). I've mentioned this before but he's part of Giant's hat-tip service to Sandglass. He's an exact replica of a Sandglass character -- the house, the clothes, everything... except, the values. The Sandglass counterpart was staunchly against women in the workplace, whereas Baek-pa -- is in favour of women in the workplace. Eeep. The Sandglass dood would turn in his grave.
diadda
October 10, 2010 at 1:56 PM
When I wrote this it was at about episode 10. Now I am at episode 16(going slow since I had 12hrs at the job) and It still looks bleak for the females. Mi-joo reminds me of the lead in Fruits Basket(Tohru). A character I loved to pieces, but it hurts to see her in this environment.
I never said any of the male leads or secondaries are saints or goodies. In fact that is what I like about this show, they are all flawed in some way. And their circumstances help them to be a messed up group of money, power hungry jackals. All ready to feast on each other as soon as look at you. Bribery, extortion, murder they all are guilty or conspiring with the guilty no matter their motivation or their lack of knowledge of the greater picture that surrounds them.
I still stand by my statement though that the random kind and noble male characters show up. The teacher for Kang-mo was another example. I still haven't seen a nice normal female. Not even for one episode.
supah
October 10, 2010 at 3:06 PM
Aaah dude, I hear you.
I'm kind of ok with it, I think the women are a mixed bag and I love some and love to hate some. But I suppose we all have a personal gripe here or there, I get that.
supah
October 9, 2010 at 3:44 PM
Which episode are you upto right now?
After episode 2, Kyeong-ok is true wuv, and Mi-joo is quite lovable, too.
And I have a soft spot for Nam-sook, her priorities are in check no matter what the world dubs her.
ADORED Nam Ji-hyun to pieces in her earlier spirited performance of teen Jung-yeon but then Park Jin-hee came along, and while she's not too bad (infact on rare occasions she's so good she gives me goosebumps) it frustrates me as how I still can't read her.
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beggar1015
October 10, 2010 at 4:35 PM
I'm not good at the actors' names, but I agree that the child actors that did Jung Yeon and Kang Mo were way better, and had much better chemistry between them, than the adult actors. But then I'm just on Ep. 11 so hopefully the grown ups will get better.
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supah
October 11, 2010 at 5:04 PM
Oh they will. Lee Beom-soo is phenomenal, though it's a slow-burn journey towards getting his spitfire personality back, he'll be back to his full glory from episode 20 onwards. And he just gets hotter and hotter from that point. *swoon*
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71 Carinne
October 9, 2010 at 4:51 PM
I got some time in catching up w/ We Got Married, and missing SKKS already. Monday is no longer mundane. I swooshed in GOE;SS (http://community.livejournal.com/goe_ss/) to retrieve "Dating on Earth" and watched it for the first time. Cute story. Micky looks badass flyin' and kickin' and by the looks of his body language, I know he's not a virgin. When did I learn these things? * ____ *
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John
October 9, 2010 at 8:25 PM
body language ...not virgin..what? how does one learn these things?
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brookeeve
October 9, 2010 at 9:49 PM
It helps if you have a psychic brigade of pigeons.
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Leonardswench
October 9, 2010 at 11:09 PM
And that "v" tattooed on your forehead in invisible ink .... :D
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Viola
October 10, 2010 at 1:32 AM
You besmirch the proud history of the Psychic Pigeons (yes, with a capital P) by calling them a mere brigade. They are the Pigeon Legion, like the famous Dragon Legion, except more cunning and deadly.
Well, most of the time they are deadly. They were epic fail at driving off lessaofpern's meddling friends. Worst strafing run ever! :)
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72 diadda
October 9, 2010 at 6:39 PM
In honor of the chemistry girl and her photos of our fearless leaders. viola this is for you!
Not BadGirl, but not totally Diadda either. Safe for all audiences. Really. Truly. Honest.
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=K9OXLM57
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Viola
October 10, 2010 at 1:25 AM
awww Diadda! you are too sweet! *hugs*
Just how much have I been blabbing about orgo that I have come to be known as the chemistry girl?! Okay, I am zipping my lips and throwing away the key... :)
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73 Viola
October 10, 2010 at 1:19 AM
@ Bluepenguin
Thank you for your kind comments bluepenguin! I am glad that you find my vocal fangirling over SK and in general reassuring (?) You might be the only one of your kind....... :)
Just to make things clear, neither JB nor GF has asked me to take down their pictures, it’s flickr that is messing with me. I tinkered with the settings a little but the link was still valid earlier. But now , whether I click the link or log on to my flickr account, I see a “picture currently unavailable sign” for some of the pics. Maybe its fate? :)
Before I reupload the pics though, I want to make sure that JB and GF are okay with it. As Brookeve pointed out, I did get indirect permission.
As in when I asked JB if I can take her picture, she offered to take it with me, and when I replied that the others would be more interested in seeing her than me, she laughed and pointed out if we took a picture together I could show them and have major neener neener points. :p
So, we could assume that she knew her pictures were going to be transmitted over the internet in some form or other. :)
But Cingdoc and Cpw raised a valid point, I should have asked their direct permission first. I have emailed JB and if she says it’s okay I will reupload them. I am sorry for the confusion, I hope you understand. *love* :)
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pohonphee
October 10, 2010 at 8:00 AM
I thought Drama Gods who did it
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bluepenguin
October 11, 2010 at 8:05 PM
Viola, you are so sweet!
And yes, I cannot even express how amazing this kdrama loving community is! Hell, I think most of the English kdrama blogs are amazing, I'm looking at you Thundie and company!
This is like a therapy group! Hi, I'm bluepenguin and I have a kdrama addiction and it's taken over my life. We all help each other when we fangirl and obsess over kdramas, kactors and SKK especially. It makes waiting for new episodes bearable. And actually, I'm pretty sure there is a sizable audience of lurkers nodding their heads to most of the comments that you and the other regulars are making. =)
I'm just really glad to know that people care about kdramas as much as I do! It's a JOY! hahaha!
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viola
October 12, 2010 at 7:52 AM
:) I am glad you found this site Bluepenguin! We are all addicts here!
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74 Janna
October 10, 2010 at 5:18 AM
*from last OT*
@Supah: What drinks do I drink during the fall? Hmm. I kind of won't drink iced coffee anymore (that ends synonymously with leaves falling or something). I've heard some people drink warm bubble tea? Which I'm not used to either so that's weird.
I used to drink coffee daily from Wawa until they decided it was more economical to have giant plastic coffee drink dispensers than fresh glass coffee pots. They want more time to prepare greasy breakfast sandwiches I guess. I won't buy Starbucks because ...you could just buy the same coffee at Burger King.
I do like tea though, and I have a what could be considered an really.. large.. collection of black teas. But it's totally October so that means I'm drinking gallons upon gallons of apple cider. I even have some cinnamon stirrers. Classy all the way!
What do the rest of you OTers drink during the fall? Any recommendations?
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supah
October 10, 2010 at 3:02 PM
Dood, I can drink a searingly hot cup of coffee in the Omani heat and an iced macchiato in the UK snow. I'm pretty whimsical like that (wasn't always that way, blame it all on once falling in love with someone very spontaneous, we kind of switched personalities).
For fall I'm drinking full-fat Pepsi, loads of it. I'm defo more of a soda fiend at heart.
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Janna
October 10, 2010 at 3:52 PM
*tears in eyes* Someone who agrees with me that diet soda isn't worth it? Ridiculous!
The other day I read about the Japanese Pepsi flavor for fall is *drumroll* Mont Blanc. Chestnut.. Pepsi. Hmmm.... I drink Coke more than Pepsi (sorry) But Pepsi Throwback > All other Pepsi because it used real sugar~
The worst soda I have ever tried was Jones Soda Turkey Gravy flavor. Or Jones Soda Green bean flavor, I think? Buying the Jones Soda Thanksgiving Holiday pack is just not a good idea. But my sisters agreed to trying "some" (like 1 flavor) and we drank shot glasses of the stuff (them by the sink, me promising I was going to take it down and not throw up) it was like.. not a pleasant experience in soda. I should have precluded this with "I have a problem buying limited edition flavored products".
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supah
October 11, 2010 at 4:53 PM
Chestnut Pepsi??
Man, the Japanese get all the cool stuff. Ever tried the array of weird and wonderful kitkat flavours they have?
Btw I stalk shibuya246's blog for her Conbini Mondays -- http://shibuya246.com/category/conbini-monday/
Mmmm.... Japanese junk food, so much more tempting than regular junk food.
:barf:Jones Soda Turkey Gravy flavor.... Better you than me, hun!
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diadda
October 10, 2010 at 3:33 PM
I drink hot chocolate with REAL milk. We have a specialty store that gets it from a farm and sells it. Boil it up with some high end cocoa powder and it is killer. Perfect for sleep.
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Janna
October 10, 2010 at 3:41 PM
That sounds so good! I went into the countryside last month and this farm made fresh banana milk. I would drink it everyday if it was available to me~
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Leonardswench
October 10, 2010 at 6:20 PM
I'm a home-brew gal: I love mulled wines, spiced teas, homemade hot chocolate with the Andes mint floating in the top .... or a dab of mint chocolate chip ice cream ... or a peppermint stick (the kind with real peppermint oil in it).
My daughter and I did are first holiday shopping yesterday to stock up, because in a few weeks time, we start all the special recipes that say, "This is home. We eat good here. We love and laugh a lot here. All comers are welcome." I love the scent of the house all fall and winter long (I keep it up through January so I don't get depressed).
February is garden-planting time in Texas, so we transition straight from 'holiday' to 'spring', and that's always welcome, too!
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nano
October 10, 2010 at 9:57 PM
Hot Cinnamon Spice Tea! Best tea ever- hot or cold!
http://www.harney.com//Hot-Cinnamon-Spice/products/225/
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75 rambutan
October 10, 2010 at 6:38 AM
@64.1 Supah: please check your PM at AM-A. I'll show you where to find the two dramas.
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supah
October 10, 2010 at 2:57 PM
Cheers mah dear! x
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76 noor
October 10, 2010 at 8:25 AM
OMG i have just seen the first 2 episodes of giant and am middle of ep 3. Its just too good the child actors are amazing I love their acting, seriously I don't know from where Korean people find such amazing child actors. All the child actors are mind blowing and seriously someone needs to give the older brother (who was the child version of goo su in WISFC) a lead role because the actor is amazing. I am seriously looking forward to his next drama.......he has got such intense eyes... and Happy Open Thread to all. Wish all of you are having a wonderful weekend which is about to end....arg monday....have to go to uni tommorow and have babysitting and final project ....kill me now...why don't you life.
Just like me to find such a good drama so late when i have too much to do...
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supah
October 10, 2010 at 2:56 PM
Haha, (heart) Kim Soo-hyun, he truly is an epic-scale actor and leaves a lasting impression, moreso in Giant.
Speaking of Kang-jin, I finally managed to order a region-friendly DVD boxset of WISFC. *victory dance*
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77 Viola
October 10, 2010 at 5:10 PM
PICTURES
Hi all! I have reuploaded the pictures from the convention again. Enjoy! :)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/54669715@N04/
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kdramatic
October 10, 2010 at 9:42 PM
Thank you~
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Snikki
October 11, 2010 at 3:54 PM
Thank you, Mrs. Viola Siwon! ;) JB and GF are sooo cute!!!!
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Viola
October 11, 2010 at 4:00 PM
lol. Keep my marital status hush hush, I don't want the press to go into a frenzy! I would rather not have that weird reporter stalking me ;)
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bluepenguin
October 11, 2010 at 8:07 PM
Again, thank you kindly dear girl!=)
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78 kdramatic
October 10, 2010 at 9:41 PM
hey dramabeans and javabeans,
just wondering if whether if u guys will ever post up pictures from the nyc comic con?
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kdramatic
October 10, 2010 at 9:43 PM
ha nevermind -___-;;
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79 Carinne
October 10, 2010 at 11:01 PM
OMG-sh! I barely watched "Finding Mr. Destiny" trailer. Gong Yoo looks so adorable.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_k2GJ2iLiM8&feature=player_embedded
(Not the greatest video feed however... better than nothing.)
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CapitalScandalRocks
October 11, 2010 at 12:39 PM
Good one
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80 diadda
October 11, 2010 at 8:25 AM
minutes till the right version of SkkS 13 shows up for me...minutes! I am going all kinds of bat nuts waiting for it. I haven't been this way about a show in quite a while. Giant is keeping me company while I wait, but it isn't the same kind of feel. Dr Champ I have on my screen but without the subs I am missing some of the sports/medical lingo guess I will have to watch it multiple times till I get those words right :)
Ahhhh! It's here! It's Here! Yippy! See ya's in an hour!
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diadda
October 11, 2010 at 10:12 AM
No flipping way I can wait 23 hrs till the next episode.
1.) Yummy and moony are now a couple in my eyes for now and forever. I was willing to let Moony choose whomever he wanted to be his love, but after this episode. It can only be Yummy and Moony.
2.) This show has officially shot into my top 5 and by the end of it I may have a new favorite show. How appropriate that "What's up Fox", my current favorite, is the banner on this site right now.
3.) And how many times do I have to say I love this show. I am also reminded of one of the recaps. "Clapping like a fat kid that saw cake" That was sooooo me for the last hour. Delicious fantastic cake with fruit and cream!
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brookeeve
October 11, 2010 at 12:49 PM
I've got to say I squealed in my first ever outloud fangirl moment with Moony and Yummy. I almost ff through Smarty and Yoon Shik just to get my Moony and Yummy. I have never wanted two male characters to get together before... ever, but man if this doesn't take the cake (from the fat kid)!
I'm watching without subs. That's how good this show is.
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diadda
October 11, 2010 at 4:04 PM
I was seriously beside myself from a kdrama male couple!!
Yeah yeah fantasy couples aside, this is the first possible male couple in kdramas that I have seen. Yeah I know there is the other couple on the weekend show that it stirring up all the controversy as the first mainstream open and positive gay couple, but Yummy and moony!!!!! wow! They deserve some microscopic credit too. We have a full generation or two of female fans that are actively hoping for and praying for this relationship to take place and the writing is feeding it.
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Viola
October 11, 2010 at 6:30 PM
I feel like the girl that is late to the party and missed the best part. I haven't watched any episodes after the 9th....
Marathon time! :)
Viola
October 11, 2010 at 7:02 PM
Did you remove your leatherfoxy video of No Min Woo? I can't find it. My best friend called him a girl... I either need to prove her wrong or find a new bf...... that video would have helped immensely.
diadda
October 12, 2010 at 12:56 AM
here is leatherfoxy vid. It is still there, but needs a reedit badly :) maybe after the SkkS stuff settles down I can focus on No min woo goodness.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ht_CWFablok
bluepenguin
October 12, 2010 at 12:14 PM
Hello lovelies! Nice to meet you Diadda and Brookeeve!
This week's episodes are just frakkin jam packed with all sorts of AMAZING.
Yong Ha, you are so my favorite character. The writers have been masterful with his character. The backstory that we're getting of YH is really rewarding and complex. I love it! That was a confession right there when JS was leaving for the night. Even my mother was like, "Oh wow! It makes perfect sense!" And she was so happy and heartbroken for him, as was I.
And! JS - he knows his friend YH. He's pretty damn awesome for keeping his best friend beside him all this time, being accepting and open-minded where others would've dropped that friendship in a heartbeat. Over 10 years!
Masterful storytelling I tell ya. Fluff does NOT have to be dumb, and SKK should be viewed as an wonderful example of heartwarming, poignant and intelligent writing in writing workshops. And the best thing is, I don't feel manipulated by the writing. All the characters are behaving as real people, and even better, they're evolving!
Oh and the ANGST is right around the corner! =) How is it that the episodes consistently improve from week to week? *contented sigh*
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diadda
October 12, 2010 at 8:05 PM
Hi back! bluepenguin,
I read some of the novel too and yeah we are in for some serious angst coming up. I also totally agree that a fun show with young good looking people does not have to be mindless fodder for the masses. This writing and acting is taking me by surprise. I was originally not even looking forward to this and so far it is the best thing I have seen this year.
Opinions for things that could have been in the running for best of the kdrama year:
Giant is epic and grand with great acting but gets a bit to dramatic and contrived at times with the character setups.(example Mijoo working for Hong as a maid, and the mom working in the bar with the power) Not saying that they don't help the plot along having major characters where they are, only that it is too convenient and could have been better achieved doing something else.
Personal Taste had tone issues. and a few misfired episodes.
MGiAG was fun but once again the Hong Sisters are weakest at their endings of fantastic dramas.
Secret Investigation Record doesn't have any faults I can think of. I watch it. I like it a lot, but I don't NEED it. It is missing that weird pull that makes it unavoidable in my daily life.
OB/GYN had main characters that were less likable but realistic and interesting. And the best secondary male I have seen in a long while.
The Woman Who Still Wants to Marry was fun and light but also had some sparkless episodes, mainly toward the end and I wasn't satisfied by the ending either.
everything else I saw was filler, forgettable and used for language padding. SkkS is solidly different. It may falter or have issues in the future, but I know I have 14 episodes of magic in the can and I am so not letting it go.
wow, that was divergent.
:)
brookeeve
October 14, 2010 at 12:50 AM
I'm sorry bluepenguin (and I love your name, really!) that I didn't get to saying hello back right away. I'm going to blame my ADD... and the fact that I've been marathoning The Snow Queen for Fall Break.
I totally agree with all of your conclusions about SKK... except you can have Yummy and I'll join the Moony boat, okay? Yummy is completely delightful, but he just doesn't have what my friends deem "The Naked," which I think should be pretty self-explanatory.
viola
October 14, 2010 at 9:05 AM
Hi Bluepenguin!
I just got caught up with ep 12 of SS and omo! How awesome is this show?! I think I just have to reiterate my Yummy love. I think I was a puddle on the floor when he admitted to having certain feelings about Moony to Sun-Joon. *happy fangirl*
I ff through ep 13 just to get to the Mony-Yummy part and even though I didn't understand what they said I was devastated and heartbroken.... so sad. Those tears from Yummy.... I die when he cries *sniff*
diadda
October 12, 2010 at 9:42 AM
so 14 has me all kinds of goofy. I was cheering and giddy then frustrated and miffed. It was another fine episode. couldn't beat the epic of 13 but dang good effort.
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81 supah
October 11, 2010 at 4:42 PM
Giant 43 [SPOILERS!!]
Ouuuuch! I can't get the sound of those bones crunching outta my head... Too much violence in this episode, marreya.
Aah wells, atleast Soo-jin-ehh brings out Jung-yeon's snarktastic, catty side, it's really quite funny, erm, most of the time anyway *whistle*. And hey, whenever I quip about PJH, she goes and cranks it up in the following episode.
The previews show moar violence, I'm talking callbacks to Yeo Jin-gu and the street brawls of Myeongdong epic scales of violence.
Seong-mo, you have officially failed as a babysitter. But then you still have the biggest portion of my heart. *whimper*
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supah
October 11, 2010 at 6:51 PM
In other news:
Special of my Life: most redundant-ass title ever, but show itself? C'est Fantastique!
Watched the first 3 episodes of a total of 8 last night and spent the day at the office trying not to burst out laughing hysterically at some of the sequences and dialogue.
I'm in considering shoehorning it into my Top 10 of all time somewhere, it's pure joy, every rom-com-nazi's joy!
Such an awesome, heavyweight cast but Sung Ji-roo PWNs it, what can I say about this guy? He's one of those rare, exceptional kind of actors where he can make you laugh so hard and then make you weep just as hard within seconds of the other.
@rambutan -- I will do a more complete review of this once I finish it. But in a nutshell: awesome, you must watch this.
On a more sombre note, FINA-EFF-INGLY got my WISFC box-set after almost a year of fancying it. Yay! Just whizzed through the first episode and bawled my eyes out at the scene just before this one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrGDwlN5dgM Aigoo, poor KSH, Giant is his third role where he's crying over his abheoji (or lack of one).
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82 supah
October 12, 2010 at 5:11 AM
@Janna
[SPOILERY]
Btw, a tad random but I would love to see JY and MJ meet again like they did in episode 2. I think a girlie reunion is in order.
Also, I like the current story arc and how it covers three major plot points which have needed addressing for a while. Two are fairly obvious, the third is that CPY really should've learned his lesson by now. No more deploying the mob. It cost him dearly last time with the Malcheok mob. (Or was that Seong-mo? Haha!)
Also, Cho Min-woo means: *drumroll* Beautiful Clever-Friend. Haha... Clever-Friend, I love it, they could've just been more blatant and stamped Dumb-Enemy on his forehead.
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83 diadda
October 12, 2010 at 7:55 AM
I have a episode 13 SkkS vid already.
If you want spoiling. go for it. I did avoid BIG spoilers. I will change the music and make a shorter version that takes out the middle part. I already started it. But I liked this one too, so I thought I would share.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8bxwDiZirI
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Diadda
October 13, 2010 at 5:30 AM
Is it wrong to have tears in my eyes at this video and the edit of the other one to come. Yummy and Moony are getting to me I need a hanky.
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brookeeve
October 14, 2010 at 12:52 AM
I love your videos. I think I might have mentioned this before, but I wanted to reiterate.
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diadda
October 14, 2010 at 5:01 AM
Sometimes I wonder if I am being too forward or annoying in sharing them.
But then I think.... Ahhh, heck with it, I like them! If someone else doesn't want to watch them they don't have to click on it. :)
I got another idea for a 14 video. And this time it is a smarty based one. I'll post it later :)
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viola
October 14, 2010 at 11:13 AM
I am going to steal a line from lahlita and shout out andwae! Please never stop posting the links for your videos! They are awesome and I them and you!
viola
October 14, 2010 at 11:14 AM
sigh.I really need to get the hang of the html heart thing. ' I meant "I ♥ them and you"
84 trixicopper
October 12, 2010 at 11:20 AM
To anyone else who is watching Giant:
That noise you heard earlier today was me screaming at my computer. :)
I knew they weren't going to get very far today with MW&MJ but the last 2 minutes? Are you kidding me? Way to milk it show!
Show, you are officially on my list! At least until next week, when I want to see some progress! :)
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supah
October 12, 2010 at 11:39 AM
At least you can't say it's predictable. Heheh! :p There were other things I was hoping they'd address in this episode involving other characters, but totally didn't expect that cliffhanger.
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ockoala
October 12, 2010 at 1:51 PM
Giant is such a tease isn't it, but I can't say this week's episode didn't just light a fire under everyone's asses.
If GM wants to go on pretending he isn't still madly loving Jeon Yeon, then oops, your cover got blown, dude.
And Seung Mo is totally going to go hypocrite on his siblings - he'll give MW-MJ a pass cuz there's a baby involved and he secretly has a bromance going on with MW. But he's going to be no-way-in-hell with respect to GM-JY.
SM needs to get a girlfriend, otherwise he's just pouring cold water on everyone else's hot eye-sexing.
I must be totally a sadist but GM going all bodyguard to the rescue and getting beat up for JY totally made my month. It's been forever and a day since I've seen GM in action. He needs to work that leather jacket back into his rotating roster of suits.
MW also needs to stop making the "I'm in pain and constipated face" with it comes to thinking about MJ. I would love to deliver the news to all participants that they should be expecting to do all weekend and holiday dinners together in the future, Daddy Satan not included, of course.
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85 supah
October 12, 2010 at 11:26 AM
Giant 44
[SPOILERY]
So they're censoring out stuff now, Chuno-style? Like we've not seen knives and guns on TV before? Aaargh! Maybe because the ratings are rising they feel a bigger responsibility *shrug*.
But still, explosive episode, with a sprinkling of some cheesy moments at the start, I'm sorry man, Min-woo just doesn't suit being a softie, he should remain smarmy.
And someone hand Lee Beom-soo a Baeksang already. *sob*
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Leonardswench
October 12, 2010 at 12:34 PM
I have to say, I'm liking Giant way more than I thought I would, I'm hanging in there on episode 24 now (I know, I know, a long way to go to catch up), but I'm hoping by the end of this month I'll be waiting on eps.
In the meantime, is anyone else a tad frustrated with the pacing?? Sometimes it is so delicious (episode 21 comes to mind), and then sometimes so sporadic I want to throw my shoe through the plasma!!
Truthfully, this is only my fourth or fifth (counting in my head) series that has been longer than 22/24 episodes, so perhaps the pacing problems are really just more realistic for longer series?
Trying not to be too spoilery, but really, am enjoying this much more than I thought I would (and if this SHOW goes EoE on me I will never watch another long drama again!!!)...
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trixicopper
October 12, 2010 at 1:26 PM
LOL! So you've obviously never watched a daily drama.:)
Those puppies are looong! 150-180 episodes. They are only 1/2 hour episodes so that helps. Some of the sagueks can be really long 100+ too.
I'm really enjoying Giant also. I doubt it will go the way of EOE. Giant really is what EOE could have and should have been. If it had better writing,directing, editing etc.etc.etc. :)
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ockoala
October 12, 2010 at 1:55 PM
The pace doesn't slow down, but the plot developments are more machinations and intrigue than physical confrontations and gangbusting scenes.
I think Giant is a great way to get introduced to the 50 or greater epics. The plot is not going to go into the crapper, which is what most long dramas (and even quite a few short dramas) have a tendency of doing.
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supah
October 12, 2010 at 3:41 PM
Amen to the plot not going into the crapper. 44 episodes done and it's still going strong, add to that the fact that they already have the finale in the can (or so I read in some news snippet on Jung Bo Suk's aging makeup -- a very long time ago).
''GM going all bodyguard to the rescue and getting beat up for JY totally made my month.''
I just diiiied! That wasn't Lee Beom-soo but Yeo Jin-gu I was seeing, I burst into tears. LBS is one of the finest actors of our time and he was born to play Lee Gang-mo. Just look at the way he's recaptured the Gang-mo spirit? Beautiful. *tear*
Park Sang-min is doing an equally phenomenal job, though we know Lee Beom-soo owns the show. But can't forget how anything and everything is written to tie in v. strategically with Seong-mo. I worry for him. Even in the cliffhanger, I was on the edge of my seat, for him, and what it would mean for MW to see him there.
And he's doing well by remaining firm with Hwang Tae-sub. This guy? He sucks! Never forgive him!
I am irked at SBS censoring the weapons though, weapons are pretty important in Giant. Hope it was just a one-off.
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supah
October 12, 2010 at 5:05 PM
Oh, just whizzed through again and it was only the pen-knife Soo-jin was wielding that got blurred out. Wonder why? Not the first time they've had pen-knives on this show.
Also, upon closer watch the Min-woo and miniature No Young-hak scenes are quite heartmelting. (Yeah, I dither, watchyugonna do?)
86 Leonardswench
October 12, 2010 at 12:36 PM
GASP!!!!!!!!!!!!
Seriously, I wrote this poem called Burn to put up on Thundie's contest and I totally forgot yesterday was the deadline because the Baby Girl was sick and the family mini-van decided to burn a coil, making #1 and #4 cylinders mis-fire all day, distracting me with car repairmen, quotes, diagnosis ....
aarrrggh!!!!!!!!!
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Viola
October 12, 2010 at 4:23 PM
Oh no! :( I was wondering where your poem went! I was checking thundie's site but I was sad to not find it. *hugs* maybe you can post it on ot? I was really looking forward to reading it . It would be such a shame to waste your research on ancient Korean clothing.
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87 rambutan
October 12, 2010 at 9:27 PM
@81.1 Supah: Thanks for the introductory review of Special of My Life. Glad you like it! If it really makes it to your Top 10, I'll watch! But it'll be a monumental task since I need English subs (haven't watched a complete unsubtitled drama since 2005)!
Currently besotted with Kang Suk of Gloria (played by Suh Ji Suk). It's the only drama I'm following weekly, and without subs (but with the knowledge that subs will come later). Want to start Giant and Skk. Scandal ASAP after reading all the rave talk. I'm missing out!
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supah
October 13, 2010 at 5:01 AM
I'll tell you what I'll do, have you watch it and then I'll screencap and write the scene descriptions, bits of dialogue etc in there, kind of like a full but not too extensive eight-episode recap? But if you can't commit to unsubbed that's fine with me. But SOML is just so, so golden, so ME, I'm in love with it.
And it's written by Song Ji-na's (Sandglass, Eyes of Dawn, Love Stories) two times co-writer, for Kaist and (wait for it...) Legend. Aaaargh! (Maybe it was the directing, and the cast, y'know?)
Can these two fantastic, wonderful, mindblowing writers not be given a third chance to re-unite and write another drama, pleeease...?
I'm up to episode 20 of Gloria, I'm liking it, maybe not loving it...yet. There was a scene or two where Suh Ji-suk made me melt into a puddle. The cast and the retro atmosphere is just wonderful.
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88 diadda
October 13, 2010 at 10:27 AM
Almost finished Episode 6 of Dr. Champ. First words out of my mouth on a specific scene are derived from MGiAG...
"Rear Action!"
Now to rewind this bit of "Rear Action"!
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89 diadda
October 13, 2010 at 10:40 AM
And now the better version of Yummy and Moony from SkkS13-14
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krcUpOtdrvU
I had serious music choice issues for the first time. Every song I used made me cry and seemed to fit. How do I love you two let me count the ways.
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90 rambutan
October 13, 2010 at 5:24 PM
@ 87.1 Supah and 80.1.1.2.1 diadda
Supah, I'll definitely watch SoML if you make the effort to "screencap and write the scene descriptions, bits of dialogue etc in there, kind of like a full but not too extensive eight-episode recap". I'm so impressed with Sandglass, Eyes of Dawn, Love Stories. All tell fantastic stories and have excellent execution. But no pressure, okay? Do it only if you love doing it and have the time!
Diadda, your opinion of OB/GYN's leads, especially second male lead, so hits the mark: "OB/GYN had main characters that were less likable but realistic and interesting. And the best secondary male I have seen in a long while." I've always sided with the main lead in my 6 years of watching drama and OB/GYN is only the second time I wished the second lead got the girl. If you want to catch more of Dr. Wang from OB/GYN, watch Gloria! Be forewarned that the cheeky Dr. Wang is very different from Kang Suk in Gloria!
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supah
October 13, 2010 at 6:35 PM
Oh, it'll only be my pleasure!
SOML has a similar kind of quality but its genre is pure comedy: lots of slapstick, wittiness and black comedy, but all heart and when I say heart you can expect some nicely done heart-tugging moments. And all the actors are in their prime. But let's not talk about the actors just yet, I'm pretty much in love with all of them at this point, mentioning one will mean I'll have to mention them all. Hah!
Speaking of Eyes of Dawn, I'm a little frightened off by its 'comfort women' theme. Does this theme pop up excessively or graphically?
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diadda
October 14, 2010 at 4:55 AM
While I started to watch Gloria, (I love Dr. Wang and Lee Chun Hee) I knew I wasn't going to get Dr. Wang or a goofier Chunderella so it was harder to watch. I am waiting on completion on that one. I can marathon them like I am with Giant now.
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91 Janna
October 13, 2010 at 5:42 PM
I remember the fall of ninteen eighty six.....(?) quite fondly. The cool breeze brushing up against my face, the days getting shorter but earnestly spent in every way, the time stalking around child daycare telling kids I'd get them ice cream later at a second location-wait,what-GIANT 43&44
Yeah so mid-wrench beating I spilled a cup of tea all over my keyboard. OR You can take it that I'm just being held somewhere enjoying a fine virginia slim without internet access. Someone save me! Use those sharp pointy blurred out objects, too!
I enjoyed the latest in abduction filmmaking, the VHS tape. But little more than that was appealing to me. She punches rabies-dawg later? Why weren't you trying to kick a window through earlier? No?
Meanwhile, Mama K has time to both be sad but also check up on Mi-joo at work. Well, good for her. Mi-joo, the other half of the cliche coin (the one side, fights in landfills, hers the "slightly missed you! By a second!") and of course of all children to help wash their hands I'm glad it's someone who has fine pocket square maintenance.
So anytime Kang-Mo wears leather (gloves/coats) someone is getting an ass kicking right?...Right?
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supah
October 13, 2010 at 6:05 PM
I knew you'd be bitter about it, but IT'S HIM! It really is HIM! So you'll have to accept him now whether you like it or not. SM has made the same mistake again (think back to the ole rendezvous in the fields), and thus incurred a huge debt, again (and I wouldn't have had it any other way, I'm serious). *Squeal* Giant is just TOO effin' good for it's own good.
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supah
October 13, 2010 at 6:13 PM
Yuck, typos everywhere, sorry.
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92 supah
October 13, 2010 at 5:55 PM
Aaah, THIS is more like it Daemul! I want to shout it from the rooftops: Hye-rin saraisso! She's gonna go SLAY people.
Episodes 2 & 3 have reeled me right back in. Go Hyun-jung - 1 <3 U! Park Geun-hyung - you are truly beauteous!
Everybody else: big thumbs up.
Though I am still a wee bit scarred from the pilot episode. Who knows when this magical spell will be broken and we default back to cartoonish wtfersville again. But so far, so good.
Plus, two new awesome additions to the cast in episode 3: Choi Il-hwa (probably better known as BB, of City Hall) and Lee Jae-young.
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Janna
October 13, 2010 at 6:00 PM
Not gonna lie, I read Park Geun-hyung as Park Gun-hyung and said "Dancing?! Singing?" No, no not THAT Park G.-Hyung.
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supah
October 13, 2010 at 6:08 PM
Oh I wouldn't have a clue who that other P G-Hyung is. These eyes? They only see Greatness.
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Janna
October 13, 2010 at 7:10 PM
The other P.G.Hyung (yeah I'm gonna type it out that way now) is best known for being in the movie Innocent Steps with Moon Geun Young. He is of musical origins. Him and Jin Yi Han should have a musical dance off or something. I gotta stop knowing so much about these musical actors. Everyone knows the only music I listen to is 80s techno.
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supah
October 14, 2010 at 2:52 PM
Aaaah, Innocent Steps.
I was *thisclose* to watching that once but then I chickened out and watched 'I Love You, Not' instead. (Yeah, gangstahzz!) In which MGY was her usual glowy, lovely self. But blind. And she falls for a gangster. The poor little lamb.
Speaking of Techno, have you memorised the Mi-joo dance routine yet?
93 rambutan
October 13, 2010 at 9:40 PM
@ 90.1 Supah: Speaking of Eyes of Dawn, I’m a little frightened off by its ‘comfort women’ theme. Does this theme pop up excessively or graphically?
Eyes of Dawn is a beautiful story of three peoples' lives set against a historical backdrop. I'm no expert on Korean history, but I think the writers and producers did a good job depicting the years under Japanese occupation, WW2, then war between North and South. Hence, there are various themes reflecting the reality of the times - comfort women, Japanese experiments and chemical warfare, war in its ugliness as well as awesomeness (brotherhood of men/comrades). The comfort woman theme is not excessive (only the start of a 36-episode saga) and whatever is told is part of the story. And it is a beautiful story about a Korean soldier conscripted to fight under the Japanese flag falling in love with a comfort woman. EoD is one of those few dramas that made me think long and hard after it ended. How life is so fated. I'm one to believe that I can determine/control my life and destiny by the choices I make, but EoD says the opposite is also very true. Sometimes things just happen, and if you or they just happen to be there, then life inexorably takes off on that road. There is no such thing as "The Road Not Taken" because there is no such choice.
EoD is epic and cannot be missed! 'Dr. Zhivago' and 'Gone with the Wind' come to mind when I think of EoD in epic-ness and story telling. Okay, better rush off and watch Giant in its awesomeness and epicness!
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supah
October 14, 2010 at 2:46 PM
Thanks hun!
Ok, now you've totally convinced me. Need to raid my friend's VHS stash again, he's had the series for a while, you can tell.
I'm an avid fan of epics, especially ones that are thought-provoking and emotionally engaging and this sounds like my kinda crack, helps that I'm all the way in love with the writer and a lot of that cast.
Giant is one of those series I'm not into convincing people to watch, it comes with a few prerequisites, without them it can lose a few people. But for me, hand on my heart, ever since the third episode I pegged this as my #1 drama of all time. Oh, of course there are better made dramas out there but this is quality, redefined. Though I never wanted to proclaim that out too loud and still don't feel comfortable doing so, because a lot of people didn't or don't like it. It's not the most accessible of dramas, though not the most complex either. It's the closest to Sandglass but done with all the warmth and humour of Bad Family (duh, same PD). The main prerequisite here is understanding that everything, yes everything, happens for a reason. Even small things which may seem insignificant will come back and bite you, there are thus zero to nil contrivances. It's like Gandalf when he said ''the ring was MEANT to come to you Frodo, and that is an encouraging thought''. Yes, little Lee Gang-mo was MEANT to be stealing bars of chocolate that day and overhearing the smugglers. The other prerquisites are having a general taste for this genre and understanding its sense of humour, not taking all things at face value, also having watched Sandglass and The General's Son movie helps a lot with regards to nifty little fanservice touches here and there, which if you understand them, You. Will. Squee.
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94 Leonardswench
October 13, 2010 at 11:09 PM
I'm an idiot, really, because I decided to watch Runaway off mute, and that freakin' laugh, and the crap 'slick' writing that is not coming off the way it could played by someone with different talent ....
I told myself I would just watch it for all the pretty pretty pretty pictures, candy for my eyes, on mute, whilst working. Did I listen to myself? No, I turned it up, and now I'm thoroughly disgusted with the show and can't even watch on mute.
:( Why??
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diadda
October 14, 2010 at 4:44 AM
awww, You should never watch that show off mute. Even though it does get better from the first camping cheese fest that was episode one. I was going to MST3K another mute episode, but it didn't seem fair. It just was too easy.
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95 diadda
October 14, 2010 at 4:51 AM
So now I wonder how many playwrights, autobiographies, psychologists, philosophers, grandmothers, and others movies will be sited in the thesis-like comments for the recap of PK episode 13. Just wondering.
I do love this site for it's intelligent discussions about drama, but sometimes I wonder it a show is just a show is just a show, and we should not beat the horse with a large stick until it won't move any more. :)
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Leonardswench
October 14, 2010 at 6:13 AM
I promise, no comments from this peanut gallery, no quoting the show itself or any of it's versions .... :D Have to catch up on my dramas, instead!
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diadda
October 14, 2010 at 9:54 AM
Never meant to imply anyone not to add your own personal 3 cents to the mix. I was only curious after the riot that 12 started to see what would come of "the kiss to end all kisses". Those that hate vs those that love vs. those that lost their collective minds and now must write full length papers on the subject of a kiss, How it compares to all other kisses in the universe. Why their lips touched at the moment under that lighting with that music or lack there of.
I was merely curious and I got my answer already from the posts galore complete with overzealous fangirling/hatred. The comments for it are actually better than the show.
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Leonardswench
October 14, 2010 at 10:19 AM
Wow! Well, I already wasted time reading and commenting on episode 12 in a passing manner, and it took me hours, so I'm not going there anymore for anything else or anything deeper.
It's been a bad week for me in k-dramaland. I missed putting up my Park Kyu poem for thundie's contest (which I will do on tomorrow's OT thread here), I wasted hours on PK ep 12 comments, and I managed to really hack myself off by listening while watching episode 4 of Runaway.
The only bright spot is that I'm hooked on Giant while I wait impatiently for SkkS eps, but ahead, I'm really looking forward to MSOAN and QoR!
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viola
October 14, 2010 at 11:20 AM
*hugs* sorry you had a bad drama week! I haven't checked out the recap for ep 12 of PK yet, was it really that mad in the comments section? I think I saw something similar said about the negative atmosphere of the SS commenting section too....... But on the bright side
I am really looking forward to your poem :)
brookeeve
October 14, 2010 at 10:12 PM
I'm kind of getting to the point where I don't comment on the recaps anymore. Most of the time, the recappers have said everything that I want to say, and then the people who reply to what I've written don't seem to have read what I wrote... so I'm just kind of sticking to OT at this point. Plus, people have just been gettin' evil lately.
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96 diadda
October 14, 2010 at 3:33 PM
episode 14 SkkS vid. Featuring a very confused Smarty.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z77Q53aOI8
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Leonardswench
October 14, 2010 at 5:34 PM
Diadda, who are you currently really shipping? I kind of had my heart set on where the drama seems to be leading, but ... recently (last episode), I kind of want a twist ......
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diadda
October 15, 2010 at 12:09 AM
Honestly until this week I was happy with anyone ending up with anyone else. All possibilities were not only ok with me but I liked them. Now I want Jaeshin and Yong Ha together in the worst way possible. Even if it is just as "friends" them together makes me happy. I posted in a comment on one of the boards a spin off show with them righting the wrongs of society throught the country side would be fantastic. A sort of buddy travel log would make my world complete. This leaves the main couple Son Joon and Yoon Hee to be all angsty with each other.
Now if Jae Shin ends up with Yoon Hee in a few more awkward romantic type scenes before the end result I am not going to be upset in the slightest either.
So simply put:
James Bond X Batman
&
Mulan X Duddly Do Right
With Mulan and Batman fornication.
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97 rambutan
October 14, 2010 at 7:40 PM
93.1 supah: Sandglass moved me and made me think after it ended. Eyes of Dawn moved me and made me think longer after it ended. Sandglass is small scale epic; EoD is epic-epic. Can't help it, because EoD depicts Koreans under Jp occupation, WW2, Burma/India trek, liberation, political assassinations and war between north and south, communism vs democracy. Along the way, three people cross paths (a woman and the two men who love her), and a most beautiful and moving story unfolded.
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nycgrl
October 15, 2010 at 1:30 AM
@rambutan May I ask where you saw EoD? I've been trying to buy this drama for a while now. Its not available anywhere or sold out. It has been on my Must Watch List for a while now but access has been the problem.
Love sandglass as well.
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supah
October 15, 2010 at 5:09 AM
After reading this comment I frantically rang the friend, he says the tapes are pretty battered and some of them are even missing. :(
I'm gonna order it soon, though someone on youtube has uploaded a handful of the earlier episodes, these should tide me over until my order gets here. Gwangju was the biggest event SG covered, and even that left me dumbstruck. I get battlefields and soldiers against soldiers, but seeing corpses astrew on bustling city streets had quite the impact on me. Civilians, man! Count of Myeongdong had some similar scenes set in the 50s but the Gwangju riots took place in the 80s, so still feels relatively rawer. But even if either took place 100s of years ago, still a calamity all the same. (And it's not like it's all in the past either. *cough* UStroopsinafghanistanandiraq *cough*).
I get that EoD is on a much, much bigger scale.
@nycgrl
I'm planning on buying it from here. It's region-all and subbed. http://www.asiandb.com/store/detail.php?num=5946
Btw, I remember you mentioning Dae Jo Young, that it makes your top 10 in sageuks. Thanks for that. I'm a little sageuk-shy, but I'd like to watch this at some point, it's encouraging to hear it mentioned.
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nycgrl
October 15, 2010 at 7:51 AM
Hey thanks for finding this. I looked everywhere but how do you know its subbed? The description doesn't seem to say anything.
I'm not the biggest Saeguk fan but I liked Dae Jo Young. I'm going to watch Conspiracy in the Courts this weekend and will re-evaluate my Saeguk list but I think SKKS may push something out too :-)
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supah
October 15, 2010 at 4:06 PM
If you scroll down, it's barely even noticeable but under item details, it definitely says: 'subtitles: English, Korean'.
I'm gonna be a complete cheapskate and go for the free downloads for now, if it truly manages to blow me away, I'l be ordering that box-set in a jiffy. In fact it'll be nice to order a bunch of Song Ji-na's works, invaluable stuff.
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98 rambutan
October 15, 2010 at 5:21 AM
97.1 nycgrl: EoD is available at aja-aja.com raw and at AM-Addiction. Do you need subs?
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supah
October 15, 2010 at 5:47 AM
Omona! Is there anything AMA doesn't have? Thanks a bunch! I thought it'd be too much to ask to expect you guys to have a 1991 drama too.
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nycgrl
October 15, 2010 at 7:46 AM
OMG subs exist for this gem! Where?
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