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The Producers: Episode 2

Oh man, I love this show. The deadpan humor is so on the money, and it makes me appreciate this writer in a totally different way than I did during You From Another Star. It’s the complete opposite drama in every way—wry, cynical, so realistic it makes my insides cringe—but even though the embarrassment is so real that I want to crawl into a hole sometimes, the payoff is worth it. Today’s episode one-ups the mockumentary framing device a la The Office and adds emotional pull straight of out of Misaeng, and makes me care about the future of these characters and their relationships.

It looks like adding a Friday-Saturday drama has paid off for KBS: Ratings came in at 10.1% and 10.3% for the first two episodes, giving it the edge over Na PD’s Three Meals a Day on tvN (which also came out of the gate strong in the 8% range).

 
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EPISODE 2: “News of quitting, unintentionally”

Our resident 1 Night 2 Days PD Ra Joon-mo narrates as we head back to 1989, when Ye-jin and Joon-mo were nine years old. He says that he used to walk Ye-jin home from school every day, and it wasn’t because she was nice or he liked her (for emphasis, she whacks him with her bag, just because).

He says it was because of that elevator she got to ride on the way up to her apartment, which he always thought was the coolest. She told him in her simple, dry way to ask his parents to buy him one too then, and by a stroke of luck (and IMF timing), his mother was able to buy him that very apartment that Ye-jin grew up in.

That’s how this apartment came to be his and his alone as an adult… until two months ago.

We zoom ahead to two months prior, where a drunk Ye-jin tells Joon-mo that her old apartment wants her out in February and her new apartment won’t be ready until June, and they’re asking for a ridiculous amount of money to extend her contract. She’s about to be homeless and has no idea what she’s going to do.

That’s as much as Joon-mo remembers from that night before reaching for his beer… and then the next morning he wakes up to Ye-jin moving her stuff into his apartment. She hands him the contract he wrote on a napkin that she gets to live here for free, and cheerily says she’s going to change the lock code to her birthday.

Joon-mo knows he’s been taken and hardly even seems surprised. The rainbow-colored markings on his front door just seem to taunt him now: “Ye-jin’s house.” He bangs his head against the railing as he narrates that this is how they came to live together.

Back in the present, they sit across the table from each other sharing soju, and Ye-jin complains about her day and Mr. Foreign Car, only to have Joon-mo top her with his show cancelation.

She quickly realizes that his day was worse and takes his side, and gets him to puff up a little bit when she calls his casting of Yoon Yeo-jung a “feat of human triumph.” (Yoon Yeo-jung is not only a venerated actress, but she’s also known for her direct, no-nonsense persona, and is as feared as she is respected.)

Ye-jin asks how he did it, remembering that at the time she’d been a guest on Three Meals a Day (star variety PD Na Young-seok’s program that The Producers is directly competing against in ratings).

In a flashback, Joon-mo calls Na PD’s concept a total failure: “Who would watch someone eat three meals a day?! Who can’t eat three meals a day? Young-seokie hyung got his concept all wrong this time. It’s doomed!” LOL.

He remembers now that he convinced her that she’d be shooting at least five CF (commercial film) campaigns if she did his show, and cringes at the thought. Ye-jin guesses that she took the news badly, and Joon-mo hangs his head and mutters that he hasn’t exactly told her yet…

We resume with the docu team filming our rookie PD Seung-chan at home, as he studies old KBS gag classics. He says that he may have unintentionally ended up a variety PD, but he figures that he should learn about his job.

They ask what he’s discovered, and Seung-chan shows us that he’s analyzed the differences between the two marquee idiot characters Maeng-gu and Young-gu, and then proceeds to imitate them with a totally straight face. I’m dying. He says things like, “He opens his mouth just a little, then with a short tongue he goes, ‘Ddee lee lee lee lee.'”

He goes on and on with his nerdified over-interpretations until he runs into his first love noona outside his building. He can’t even look her in the eye as he stammers that he lives here, and deflates immediately when she says that her boyfriend Ra Joon-mo lives here too and points out his car.

Poor buddy. I mean, he knew, but to hear her say it so matter-of-factly stings. Seung-chan interviews that he’s fine, totally fine, and genuinely wishes them a happy life. The camera pans over to Joon-mo’s car, with Seung-chan’s trash bags now hanging from the side-view mirror, and then back up to Seung-chan already running away.

Joon-mo tries to make a stealthy exit to go meet his girlfriend, and Ye-jin alerts him to the fact that everyone at work knows because he was stupid enough to get caught on camera at the Music Bank auditorium. He winces to hear that the girlfriend is telling people they’re getting married, and he swears that he made it clear that they’re not that serious.

Ye-jin is rightly skeptical and asks what he said, and he recounts the totally vague message he sent (via text, naturally) about keeping things strictly work at work. Ye-jin asks if he’s a dolphin, and how anyone is supposed to decipher the cryptic intent in his coded message, and yells at him to stop passing the buck when he doesn’t feel like saying unpleasant things.

But ever the non-confrontational dude, Joon-mo wonders if breaking things off is worth it when he doesn’t know if someone better will come along. Oy. Ye-jin calls him the worst kind of man and insists that there’s an etiquette to breakups too. He grouses that she nags him like a wife and agrees reluctantly to say something.

She yells that a man’s private life has to be clean in order for work to go well, and he scoffs that the biggest complication in his private life happens to be her. Just then, Ye-jin’s little brother Tak Ye-joon walks through the door. Ha, he lives there too?

Ye-joon chides his sister for not being able to appease Joon-mo when they’re squatting at his place. He wishes this were their house again, and suggests that noona marry hyung so they can keep living here.

Little Bro is a future doctor, but that doesn’t really help Ye-jin in the here and now, when she’s bleeding money and about to pay for Mr. Foreign Car’s repairs. She wonders if a hoobae would really ask her for money.

In the morning, Seung-chan’s parents insist that asking for money is the proper way to handle this, and Seung-chan agrees that Ye-jin wanted to pay for it anyway. Dad idly mentions a friend with a struggling bakery and wants Seung-chan to feature it on PD Notebook. Mom: “That’s MBC.”

Seung-chan has to explain that he’s in the variety department, and Dad is shocked to hear that it’s the department with the gag shows and the idol singers. Appalled, he wonders if this happened because his son has no connections, and wonders if he should call his friend at KBS (who mans the parking lot, heh).

And then a few yards away, Joon-mo comes down to his car and finds Seung-chan’s trash bags dangling from his mirrors and has a fit. Mom and Dad say there are all sorts of crazy people these days, and Seung-chan slinks down behind his car.

On Day 2 of newbie training, CP Kim assigns each of the rookie PDs to a show, purposely ignoring each of their dream programs. Seung-chan gets put on 1N2D, of course, and he walks into the room to see plans for the cast’s farewell party and notice of the show’s cancelation on the board.

Joon-mo doesn’t even let him finish his introduction, and the room is thick with tension as the team tries to come up with the best way to tell their cast that they no longer have jobs. Seung-chan attempts to sit down at the table quietly and even fails at that, and then Joon-mo turns to the newbie for his opinion on how to handle this.

They all egg him on to say whatever’s on his mind because rookie PDs have the luxury of tossing out crazy ideas. They wait expectantly, and Seung-chan suggests they sit them down to tell them the truth, and everyone groans. And just like that, they’ve decided he’s useless.

He gets sent to fetch more toner for the printer, sending him in an endless loop between the office supply worker who refuses to give up more than the team’s allotted toner, and his team who sends him back with incredulous looks. As with everything in this show, the longer it goes on, the funnier it becomes.

All the while, the 1N2D team is making this ridiculously elaborate plan about where to seat the cast members at this farewell party (that they don’t even know is a farewell party).

Finally a sunbae has to show Seung-chan the way to get on Toner Nazi’s good side—by plying her with presents and laying on the compliments. She finally gives them a toner cartridge, and Seung-chan clutches it dearly, interviewing that it’s like he witnessed a battle between masters. He chuckles like a geek, and then promptly smears toner on his face.

He runs into Ye-jin, who asks what his father said about the car. She manages not to betray her horror when he quotes the repair costs, and smoothly suggests that his father might need a second opinion before he gets fleeced by a mechanic.

She puts on her sweetest smile and tells Seung-chan to ask for help if he ever needs it, and wipes the toner smudge off his face. She walks off scowling because of the car, while he looks positively giddy. Has no one been nice to you ever in life?

Ye-jin is still grousing over her bills when Cindy’s manager comes by to see her, and Ye-jin is pissed that CEO Byun isn’t here herself like she requested. CEO Byun is as scary an agent as rumored, and we see why Joon-mo was so upset about Cindy’s dinner the other night when she stops in front of a group of trainees (who can’t be more than 14 years old) and scolds them for eating more than one sweet potato a day. WTF.

Cindy looks as disinterested as ever, but she does stop and tell the girls to order delivery instead of going to the convenience store where they’ll be caught on camera by the boss. It turns out that Cindy is part of a girl group, and the other members grouse that her solo activity basically puts an end to their idol group.

Cindy doesn’t mince words about the fact that they’ve been splitting money four ways when she’s the only one working, and doesn’t have any qualms about quitting the group. CEO Byun is horrifyingly blasé about Cindy looking a little thin, and tells her to go get an IV drip if she feels faint. Sigh, that this isn’t even an exaggeration just makes it all the worse.

Back with the 1N2D crew, every cast member has been assigned a deliverer of bad news except for Yoon Yeo-jung, and they all go around the room playing Not Me, with excuses about why they shouldn’t be the one to tell her she’s off the show. At that very moment, Yoon Yeo-jung walks through the door, and the only thing Joon-mo can do is to tell Seung-chan to cover up the board so she can’t see the writing on the wall, literally.

She’s there to give them money for their one-year anniversary dinner, and even when she’s standing right there, nobody has the guts to just tell her the truth. She tells Ra PD (hur, now I see why he’s named Ra PD, because it sounds like everyone’s constantly calling him Na PD) that she’s being recognized more after one year of variety than decades of doing dramas, and it’s all thanks to him.

She interviews with the docu team afterwards, and asks why anyone would think that she’s scary: “No really, I don’t understand it. Tell me. Tell me what exactly is so scary about me. Exactly what?”

PC Kim sits down with music PD KIM HONG-SOON (Kim Jong-gook) like he’s about to ask him a very important question, only to debate which free dinner event he should attend tonight.

Hong-soon asks if the rumors about 1N2D are true, and asks if there’s going to be a PD shuffle too. He refuses to suffer on a show like that himself, but suggests the Vitamin PD for the job, wanting a cushier studio show gig like Vitamin for himself. I love that he calls it a “show with a lid,” in reference to the indoor roof.

Hong-soon complains about always being looked over in the variety department, but CP Kim knows he isn’t star PD material, and will never be noticed by their director. Hong-soon makes an effort when the director passes by, but makes the ultimate faux pas when he forces the director into the elevator with the president of KBS, whom he was trying to avoid all day.

The 1N2D team is STILL debating how to deliver the news to Yoon Yeo-jung, and finally all eyes land on newbie Seung-chan. Joon-mo: “How long have you been on this team?” Seung-chan: “…Five hours.” Joon-mo: “That’s plenty of experience to qualify!”

So off Seung-chan goes to Yoon Yeo-jung’s movie set, where he hems and haws trying to find the right words. She keeps interrupting and guessing what he’s hinting at, and because he can’t actually get the words out, they keep going in circles about vague things like changing the direction of the show or trying harder.

Omg, make it stop, make it stop. I just want to curl up and die. She finally tells him that she gets what he’s trying to say, acting very cool about it like the veteran pro that she is. Except of course Seung-chan leaves thinking she understood that she’s off the show, only she thinks he came to make sure she wasn’t quitting.

He thinks about it as he interviews with the docu team, and seems unsure that he conveyed his message. Ya think? He picks up his phone, then turns to the camera: “You don’t happen to know my team members’ phone numbers, do you?” He’s reduced to calling information for KBS.

Meanwhile Joon-mo tells Hwang Shin-hye the news that she’s off the show, and she goes from crying to happy when she hears that the head PD came to see her instead of Yoon Yeo-jung, making her feel like the star. She takes it pretty well, then immediately calls her agent to put out a story that she has to quit 1N2D because of her drama schedule.

The crew waits nervously at the restaurant and no one’s heard from Seung-chan yet. The three younger cast members arrive first and all posture about their busy drama schedules leading them to quit the show, and then Yoon Yeo-jung arrives with a big smile on her face.

Joon-mo sits beside her and they present her with a cake from her favorite bakery, and it’s the most terribly awkward situation ever because they don’t know that she doesn’t know what’s going on. She reminds everyone about how Joon-mo worked SO hard to break her down and convince her to do this show, and he instinctively flinches when she raises a hand to pat him lovingly on the face.

She keeps saying things that make it seem like she knows she’s been booted off the show, like joking about them acting like they’ll never see each other again. He apologizes for making her suffer on the show, and she chirps, “I’ll just work harder from now on!”

Cue uncomfortable cringes ’round the world.

Joon-mo mutters for someone to get the maknae PD on the phone. The maknae is currently stuck in traffic with no way to contact the team, and finally thinks to call Ye-jin to ask for one of the writers’ numbers.

The phone goes silent for a few seconds, presumably for her to cover the mouthpiece and swear like a sailor, I imagine. Then she recites the number, says through gritted teeth to call whenever he needs anything, and hangs up wanting to throttle him.

Thinking that the coast is clear, CP Kim joins the dinner and happily chats away assuming they all know about the show’s casting change. Yoon Yeo-jung asks why the director didn’t come when this dinner is to encourage them to do better going forward, and the other cast members jump to the conclusion that Yoon Yeo-jung is staying on without them.

Speculation around the table goes from all-cast change, to partial cast change, to hidden camera prank, before Yoon Yeo-jung finally turns to Joon-mo for an explanation. He’s forced to tell her the truth, and the others wonder why she didn’t know.

Hwang Shin-hye even tells her that Joon-mo came all the way to her beauty salon to give her the news personally, ack. Suddenly the maknae writer bursts into tears and cries, “I just feel so sorry for Teacher!” ACK. ACK. STOP TALKING.

This is so hard to watch. It doesn’t help that Yoon Yeo-jung plays her embarrassment so damn perfectly. The entire dinner party minus Yoon Yeo-jung is standing out in the hall wondering how the hell to get through this night, when finally Seung-chan arrives. They ask what he said, and when he repeats his, “I’d like to see you in movies and dramas more” line, CP Kim wonders why she didn’t understand his meaning.

Joon-mo heads in alone to face her wrath, and she asks how he could treat her like she was just trash to be disposed of. CP Kim brings Seung-chan in and scolds both the newbie and Joon-mo, acting like he would’ve handled it better. Thankfully Yoon Yeo-jung is sharp enough to yell at him and say that he’s worse than all of them.

The dinner ends with the whole team bowing at the waist in contrition as all four actresses leave in sour moods. As soon as they’re gone, a PD grabs Seung-chan to take him to task, and Joon-mo turns to ask him what exactly he said.

Seung-chan repeats his vague phrases, and Joon-mo snaps, reciting Ye-jin’s speech to him without thinking: “Are we dolphins? Do we communicate using ultrasonic waves? How is anyone supposed to understand that?!”

But that triggers his memory of the rest of her rant, where she accused him of being the worst because he always finds a way out of saying unpleasant things himself.

CP Kim actually suggests going to the rookie PD welcome dinner after this, and Joon-mo shouts that he doesn’t feel like going to a welcome dinner when he doesn’t welcome Seung-chan’s presence on his team. He tells Seung-chan not to say sorry or speak to him or even appear in his line of sight ever again.

Poor Seung-chan trudges back to KBS on the verge of tears.

Joon-mo goes to see his girlfriend, and finally takes Ye-jin’s advice like a man. He breaks it off in no uncertain terms, leaving her stunned.

Seung-chan sits in the empty variety department, landing on his ass again when he tries to sit in a broken chair. For a second it looks like his tears might spill out, until he discovers Joon-mo’s desk and carefully sliiiiiides the busted chair over to his side.

He locks eyes mid-prank with his sunbae PD, who’s in the middle of stealing diapers from the Superman Returns team. They sort of gloss over those things and the sunbae encourages Seung-chan to go to the welcome dinner, sighing in pity at his terrible first day on their team.

Seung-chan asks with sincere glistening eyes what he’s supposed to do, and the sunbae says gravely that the most important thing for a PD is logging his hours. He tells Seung-chan that he’ll welcome anyone as long as he’s helpful, and tells him not to quit.

The phone on Joon-mo’s desk rings, and Seung-chan is startled when Yoon Yeo-jung is on the other end. She says that her manager dropped off tea for Joon-mo because she had been worried about him drinking too much coffee, and sighs that she still wants him to have it.

She asks Seung-chan to make sure Ra PD gets the tea and asks him to convey the message that she had fun. Damn, I guess they don’t call her a pro for nothing. She even asks Seung-chan’s name and nearly breaks him with the kindness in her simple sendoff: “You worked hard today, Baek Seung-chan PD.”

He walks out to the front of KBS holding the tea and an umbrella, and finds Cindy standing there waiting for her manager in the rain. Seung-chan offers up his umbrella, then goes into this painfully long explanation about how it’s not his umbrella and his paycheck will get docked if she doesn’t return it.

She already thinks he’s a weirdo, but then he asks for her phone number just in case she fails to return it, and she punches in a fake number. He actually calls right away and points out that it’s not her number, only now realizing that she might have misunderstood his intentions.

She finally complies just to get him out of her hair, and he introduces himself as PD Baek Seung-chan of 1N2D. Mention of the show sparks her memory, because all she was told about the guy who bought her dinner the other night was that it was a 1N2D PD.

Joon-mo joins the newbie welcome dinner anyway, and when people start to wonder if Seung-chan really quit, he asks around for his number to call. Seung-chan walks in just then, and Ye-jin throws an arm around him to chat him up about the car.

She’s all sweet and encouraging until he conveys his father’s message that the repair costs were already discounted because he used cash. She immediately turns on a dime and warns him that three mistakes in his training days could get him fired.

Joon-mo trudges out and Seung-chan just silently follows behind him for a while as they walk. Joon-mo feels so bad that he texts Yoon Yeo-jung to apologize sincerely for not being able to thank her for how hard she worked, and adds a bunch of hearts before hitting send.

Seung-chan leaves the tea on the bench next to him and returns Joon-mo’s questions with: “But you told me not to speak to you.” He conveys Yoon Yeo-jung’s message that she had fun, and Joon-mo feels even worse for treating her so badly. But she receives his text and smiles warmly.

The boys walk home on opposite sides of the street, and the welcome party continues with Joon-mo’s ex crying in the corner and CP Kim left all alone at his end of the table. He opens his book to Chapter 2, on conveying cancelation news: “In the end, a person has to do it.”

Ye-jin checks her dwindling bank account with a sigh, while the 1N2D PD goes home to his family with the Superman Returns diapers, and the idol trainees sneak delivery food like Cindy taught them to do.

Cindy enjoys a private moment shielded by the umbrella and eats a fish stick at a street stand.

Seung-chan is still a few paces behind Joon-mo by the time they reach their apartment complex, and Ye-jin pulls up in a cab. She gets out of the car and tells Joon-mo to kill that newbie PD on his team, and Joon-mo replies that he’s already on it.

Seung-chan stands frozen in place from the sheer terror of being on two head PDs’ shit-lists, but then his fear turns to shock as he watches them walk into the building, get off on the same floor, and enter the same apartment together.

 
EPILOGUE

Back to two months ago, the night of the apartment contract. After hearing that Ye-jin plans to stay in a gosiwon or someplace like that, Joon-mo gets drunk and then insists on having her stay at his place because he can’t let her stay somewhere crawling with men.

He draws up the napkin contract and stamps his thumbprint on it, and she finds his concern cute, but figures he’ll forget what he said in his alcohol-induced haze tomorrow.

Joon-mo asks if his stamp isn’t enough, then announces, “Okay, I’ll stamp something more certain then.” He stands up, grabs her ears with both hands, and plants a kiss right on her lips. OMO.

 
COMMENTS

He likes her! I was really hoping it wasn’t a one-sided crush on her part, because throughout the first two episodes it seemed that Ye-jin was jealous about his relationship or at least peeved in that way where she might not know why it bugs her. But if he’s the one who wanted her to stay with him (and sealed it with a kiss!), it changes everything. I had my suspicions about Little Joon-mo walking her home from school every single day (c’mon, an elevator can’t be that cool, right?), but the kiss made me squeal out loud. I really love their friendship, from the easy conversation, to their equally-matched bicker-fests, to the way they actually influence and change one another.

It was so great to have Ye-jin’s words come around to bite Joon-mo in the ass when he needed to hear it most, because he really deserved to get some sense knocked into him the hard way today. I don’t know if all of showbiz is run on this kind of passive-aggressive dance of the vague, but it felt so believable to see an entire staff pass the buck because nobody wants to be the bad guy. Joon-mo is the king of avoidance because he finds confrontation unpleasant, and I’m glad that he has Ye-jin around to point out that this makes him the bad guy anyway—he’s the worst of the bad guys, in fact, because he hurts others rather than shoulder responsibility. I like that this is as much Joon-mo’s story of growing up, because it turns out that there’s no accounting for maturity in veteran PDs.

I liked the circular trash motif in this episode, in that nobody wanted to do the dirty work and take out their trash, which only serves to prolong the inevitable. Seung-chan leaves his literal trash on Joon-mo’s car as petty revenge, only to have Joon-mo’s undesirable task punted to him at work, and when he can’t manage to get the job done properly, it lands back in Joon-mo’s lap until the wrong person—Yoon Yeo-jung—ends up feeling like trash. It’s a lesson in responsibility that they learned the hard way, but I have a feeling that nothing will come the easy way for either of these boys. Both Cha Tae-hyun and Kim Soo-hyun really ground the emotional beats in a way that makes the cringe-worthy parts worth the pain, but they also owe a lot to Yoon Yeo-jung’s cameo, because you wouldn’t feel their horror the same way if she hadn’t played her internal embarrassment/pride war so realistically.

I’m just really excited that this kind of comedy has been adopted into dramaland effectively, and I hope that the formula will only improve from here on out. The episodes are long and the humor depends a lot on repetition, but this particular type of buildup rake gag humor works really well for the setup, and I love the funny that comes from the minutiae. It’s not always sparkling, but when it is I’m dying of laughter. I mean, as a TV viewer it makes me sigh to think that PDs worry more about their dinner courses or seating charts or how to get toner, but it’s also what makes being a producer like any other job out there in the real world—unglamorous, thankless, and a lot like regular work.

 
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i don't know, this drama has been good, but it's not fantastic. what i'm sure of is just that cha tae hyun is mostly carrying this show. ksh, ghj, and iu are pretty good but they haven't really got me that hooked -- for ksh, i think it's a problem that i keep seeing him as jang geu rae instead of baek seung chan, but i think it's more to do with the writing than his portrayal.

therein lies the problem - i keep feeling that the show's realism harked too much to Misaeng-like troubles for ksh's character. not saying that I don't like it but I feel like there needs to be something a bit more distinctive about his character :)

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I respect your opinion and you find CTH the one carrying the show since it's your opinion but most Knetz only like KSH portrayal though. I mean all their comments are about him being so great. And that his acting is good etc. So I think he is actually the one carrying this show. Almost all comment says they are only watching this because of KSH portrayal. A lot of Knetz w/ huge upvotes says this show is wasting KSH talent and that he was the only good one here etc.

I mean I actually think all the cast are doing well with the exception of IU (she just need more practice) but this is really how Knetz who help raise ratings of this show are commenting. So bias aside, I honestly think KSH is the one mostly carrying this show and without him they'll probably get very low ratings. A lot is sticking with this show just for his sake.

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yup totally agree that ratings wise, kim soo hyun is a winner, and i actually like his acting, but I don't love it. his popularity and fanbase is huge, and for good reason too - i'm definitely happy that he's challenging himself with a role like this.

but as a drama watcher who isn't actually contributing to the ratings - it's just that i wished that the characters in this ensemble cast were made more impressionable, which is so needed in a drama that wants to work on a format like this. but it's still early days in this drama, but I hope they flesh out baek seung chan a bit more instead of making him too similar to jang geu rae, and so that kim soo hyun can really make this character his own.

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" but most Knetz only like KSH portrayal though. I mean all their comments are about him being so great. And that his acting is good etc. So I think he is actually the one carrying this show. Almost all comment says they are only watching this because of KSH portrayal. A lot of Knetz w/ huge upvotes says this show is wasting KSH talent and that he was the only good one here etc."

Eh, just because korean netizens say something doesn't mean it's true...people attribute way too much power and attention to them...

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For me, GHJ and KSH are carrying the show right now.

But mostly I think we're going the ensemble way and everyone is contributing their bit.

IU is a bit of a weak link so far though.

I wouldn't exactly compare Baek Seung Chan to Geu-rae. Sure, he is underdog at work now that's being kicked by everyone so there are definitely some similarities but he's also perfectly willing to tie a trash bag to a certain car in a fit of jealousy which hints at something completely else. He's got a quite interesting family background too – devoutly religious family. His bowing his head to everyone could well stem from that, rather than the social inferiority that Geu-re felt. Although there were strong hints already as much as there is a religious patriarch in SC's family, there's stuff bubbling underneath...

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mmm. Very good points about Seung Chan that I haven't considered! :) And yeah - I like that the show is going with the ensemble way, and I want to see everyone all pulling their weight.

Sigh. Such a polarizing show - you can see from the comments how everyone felt differently about the acting, the characterization, the directing and the storyline.

(but so heartened by good discussion and opinions shared! this is what dramabeans should be about!)

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I think I feel the exact opposite in terms of who is really carrying the show. For me, it's definitely Kim Soo-hyun doing that. Aside from what knetz believe, my friend and I were just discussing how Cha Tae-hyun seems to be playing himself - PD version - in the drama. It's nothing special or extremely different from what I've seen him do in varieties for years now. I don't even see a Joon-mo in him sometimes, it's mostly just Cha Tae-hyun. Which, in a meta drama, is all sorts of fun, of course. But it doesn't carry a show in itself if the character is somewhat too connected to the actor instead of creating a separate identity.

Which is exactly why I think Kim Soo-hyun is carrying this show because he's a character I can relate to. Seung-chan is earnest in everything on the job even if he gets childish enough to extract petty revenge in small doses. He's a bit of a door mat, which is mostly caused by his situation and inexperience rather than him being 'too-nice'. I have never gotten a Geu-rae vibe from him, tbh. It's like watching a jerk chaebol. There are tons in dramaland and I never care for similar characterizations because good actors manage to infuse their own charisma and charm in a character. That's what Kim Soo-hyun expertly does, and while I love this show separately; take out Seung-chan and to me that's most of the show's charm gone.

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BSH original suggestion was the best though. If only they listen Ho him and did what he said then they would have avoided all this drama. He is right about coming clean and open. Like he said they should have just gather all the cast member together and be honest and tell them the cancellation news all at the same time. But they call him useless when he just gave them the best solution. With that there wouldn't habe been issues of favoritism etc. or one knowing before the other since they all will received the news all together. He whole team can also give they sincere apology to all the cast members during the gathering.

I hope they consider BSH ideas too because among all I think he is the most pure and genuine among them. And people tend to gravitate towards it. So I think he will be an awesome PD in the future. I can actually envisioned and see him as a very awesome and successful PD so I hope the drama will be able to show us that before this drama ends.

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I really agree. The professional thing would have been to get everyone to sit together and have their main PD tell them that because of this this this reason, we can't continue on. I know it's simple in theory and difficult to execute but a round about leads everyone no where and creates the mess we saw.

They were looking for crazy ideas and because Seung-chan is so book smart, he just blurted out the most obvious answer. Since this is a realistic portrayal of the industry, I can't believe they do this all the time. It's hilarious and surely creates behind the scene drama all the time.

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I think that was the point that the drama was trying to make though – that BSC's original suggestion would have been the best and would have avoided much of the brouhaha that followed.

BSC is coming in still fresh, he hasn't played the game and tiptoed around divas and celebrities why sky-high egos, while the others have been stuck in the alternate and often very fake reality of the entertainment world for too long. Although there may be times when delivering the message in an indirect, mollifying, self-saving way might work, they had forgotten that sometimes being honest and sincere is the best. They were so terrified thinking only of the immediate reaction they would get, that they forgot the bigger picture – and that they did, professionally speaking, pretty much one of the most stupidest things ever. Who sends a person that's been on the job for not even a day? I mean, if you had worked on a project for a full whole year with the same team of people, and then effectively get fired by someone (of no-rank in the company too) whom you've never met before and just joined 5 hours ago, wouldn't you feel like you were being treated like shit? [Vaguely reminds of a school were I once worked where they fired staff on the last day of term just because they thought teachers would slack off if they showed a bit of respect and gave reasonable notice (you know, so people could apply for a teaching position at a time when hiring is happening).]

Anyhow, I don't think this necessarily goes on all the time in the industry, but I'm sure it happens – and The Producers is poking fun at that.

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I don't think Seung Chan will suggest that if he's been working with the team for a year. He was there for 5 hours and don't even know what's going on. Logically it is the right thing to do but sometimes, you try as much not to hurt other people especially when you've grown attached to them. Of course, saying it directly always does it but it did make sense for the 1N2D team to not take Seung Chan's suggestion.

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<it did make sense for the 1N2D team to not take Seung Chan’s suggestion

His suggestion wasn't the only or the perfect solution, but their choice to send him was unprofessional and cowardly. It was bound to backfire, either by him chickening out or the actress being even more upset because it was just disrespectful to send a complete stranger. If not the person in charge of the programme (Joo-moo – even more so because he pursued her restlessly originally), it should have been the person from the team she got along with the most. Their choice was based on saving themselves from her wrath, not on not hurting her.

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yeah but that's how they learn and make the show interesting for viewers.

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deadpan humor, esp. if done right, ranks high in my list because it's kind of tricky to pull off (you can't be too subtle, you can't be too obvious), so I'm pretty much sold on this series. okay, we're on to Eps. 3 & 4 next week :)

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Okay, I'm so happy this show's working out!!!! I was hooked from the moment Little Ye-jin just casually smacked Little (and completely adorable) Joon-mo with her bag. Hard. LMAO.

But I did feel like there was way too much concentration on CTH and KSH in terms of screen-time. I'm really enjoying GHJ and IU and I need them to at least get equal screen-time. I thought GHJ's moments with both actors were truly inspired, and that deliberately awkward and painfully earnest umbrella scene (coupled with Cindy once again eating her fishstick alone) was my favorite of the episode. I thought KSH and IU had such great chemistry, and I LOVE how completely oblivious BSC is to all forms of social conduct, and very earnestly asked a top star for her number, haha. I wasn't sure how the characters were going to play out even though I'd been shipping them since Dream High, but I can see the potential in the awkward, earnest BSC and closed-off, lonely Cindy so much. Besides BFFs-falling-in-love is one of my favorite tropes so I'm so happy about CTH-GHJ.

Although, considering that these couples have already been established, and this show has been making a huge deal about a love shuffle, I'm afraid that they'll move towards the KSH-GHJ and CTH-IU pairing somehow, but at this point, I really, really don't see it, and I'll be sad to lose the potential dynamic that the current ships have.

I'm loving KSH in his bashful dorkiness, although even I couldn't help but compare the situations and his characterization to Misaeng, and considering that I'm fairly sure that no one is going to make me feel as much, as deeply, as Jang Geu-rae did, so I'm just going to stop comparing.

I thought IU was so much better in this episode, and I love that Cindy has her moments of heart, so she's still my favorite in terms of character potential. I also love that IU plays Cindy in this exhausted, lifeless sort-of way, rather than trying to be more deliberately endearing or pretend-cold-but-secretly-dorky-and-adorable. It makes her moments of heart all the more warm. I'm beginning to develop such a thing for her eating things she's not allowed to, alone. Because Cindy doesn't have a trademark cold, haughty expression then, she looks so much younger and vulnerable, and it makes me feel for her. I think the Ice Princess concept was a real misdirect, because more than the snobbery of a top star, it's about how she's had to live her life till now, and I can completely now understand what they meant by the jaded top star who doesn't trust anyone. And I think that plays off really, really well against BSG, who is, obviously far too earnest and straight for his own good, and such a great foil for someone with trust issues.

And that whole plum tea scene, right from the YYJ phone-call to BSC onwards was SO GREAT. I really felt for the characters in that moment, how much of a difference just a little bit of kindness makes, and how it feels to be forgiven and...

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...and appreciated even after messing things up- for both SC and JM. Such a lovely arc, and Yoon Yeo-jung was incredible throughout!

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LOVE the show! I understand why some might find it boring/long-winded/bland. The premise and concept might not interest all, and some of my friends have dropped the show after only 20 minutes. Seems like reactions are quite polarized on this one.

Personally, the concept does it for me - it's a breath of fresh air from the fixed format of Kdramas. As an avid variety show watcher, it was eye-opening to see how the world works in the KBS building. And the meta - perhaps the fun only heaps on when you get the inside jokes they keep throwing your way. Plus how awesome is it to watch a drama like it were a reality TV show? My variety-watching self is cheering.

Loving Yejin and Joonmo's cute dynamics. I was going *OMO OMO OMO -> mouth open for 5 seconds -> squealllll* when his second "stamp" turned out to be a kiss. I hope Yejin is paired with Joonmo in the end... Joonmo's more on her level, in terms of age, experience and bickering skills. Also, Joonmo feels so much like the "Cha Kwichan" (Annoyed Cha) personality that Cha Taehyun was known for in 1N2D season 2 :P

Looking forward to next week! And Jang Hyuk's cameo!

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I think I watched too much variety if I got all t he jokes. I was dying and cringing at the same time.

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hahaha me too!

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LOL. Me too!

This show is a riot and the four leads are doing an amazing job. I particularly like the mockumentary concept and I hope it doesn't change any time soon.

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I like it. And I love Kim So Hyun in this role!!

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Totally enjoyed the first 2 episodes ! <3 Can't wait for the next episode!!

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i thought IU's acting was much better than my expectation. some where commenting that she failed the bratty diva character but what i'm getting is she IS supposed to be that way. instead of bratty, she's lifeless just like @Zoe has mentioned. and i actually like her lazy eyes, it's as if she's just following this and that but she's not even awake at all.

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That might be, but the problem is that characters in the show are apparently terrified of the bratty diva not the lifeless idol –and IU isn't managing to hit that note. She's a bit bratty but mostly gives off a lacklustre vibe of someone who can't be bothered because she's too tired/bored, not because she's a diva!

You could have a character that, on the outside, bratty/bitchy etc and inside exhausted/broken/lifeless whatever – but you'd need a solid actor/actress to convey that (Jeon Ji-hyun as Cheon Song-yi is a much better realisation for that type of person.)

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Hi! Since I was mentioned above, I thought I'd add my two cents to the discussion, hope you don't mind!

Re: Cindy's bratty, diva idol act: in my reading I think that's more as what the audience perceives that the character should be based on the initial character description than what the character actually is. IMO, she's not being bratty in the traditional sense of wanting to get what she wants and getting it at any cost, in fact, the exact opposite- it's just that she absolutely doesn't care at all. So she goes with the flow in a bored sort-of way, unless challenged. Which is why I always find her moments of break-away from her life, like the scene of her eating and looking at people from under her umbrella, so lovely. For me, there is nothing yet in the actual drama to suggest that Cindy is any different from what she's acting as- bored, lifeless, exhausted, and a young girl who thinks she's seen it all, when clearly she hasn't really experienced anything, and has been alone for most of her life.

And that is actually a very, very interesting portrayal of the character because, at least in my opinion, I've rarely seen it. While Cheong Song-yi may have been one of the few female characters of that type (and JJH is of course resplendent in the role), that is a VERY standard trope for drama male actors; bratty/bitchy on the outside, but warm and understandable on the inside, much like Dokko Jin in The Greatest Love. I think the stark difference is that these characters were meant to be endearing from the beginning. Song-yi may have been bratty/bitchy, but from the very way that the character was written- dim-witted, bumbling, etc., those are the traits that were supposed to immediately endear her character to the audience, as they did- much like Seung-chan in this drama.

Also, the major difference was that Song-yi tried so very hard, she was constantly, earnestly trying, again like Seung-chan, and the complete opposite of Cindy. Song-yi was super concerned about her image and that was a major aspect of her character, and Cindy isn't in the least. In fact, imo, Gong Hyo-jin's character here is much closer to Song-yi than Cindy's, in the way that she tries to cover up embarrassments by pretending that she was going for it all along. I am actually really confused by the Song-yi/Cindy comparisons, because, for me, they literally have no real trait in common, except being top stars, which is a character fact and not a trait at all.

Cindy is clearly NOT endearing in that sense. She's not a fast-talking, snappy, comeback-laden, diva whose bratty exterior is just a cover for her loneliness inside. I haven't seen Hogu's Love beyond the first episode, but if anything, I see her more like Uee's character in that first episode; she makes people uncomfortable, she's demanding, but in a lethargic sort of way, she does what she wants but doesn't stop to argue or throw fits about it, she just does it. And I find that genuinely...

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...interesting, because in the moments where she drops the persona, like when she's completely alone, she comes across as very young and vulnerable. The two scenes of her eating in the first two episodes were REALLY endearing to me, despite there having been no attempt to make them so. IU has definitely been causing me some issues with her portrayal, and she may be the weakest link in terms of the four actors, but I have to say, that her scenes are also some of my absolute favorites in the drama, and I somehow think that IU's portrayal of those scenes of which I've spoken have actually made her character the most interesting for me.

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What is also really fascinating for me is how completely unconcerned Cindy is about her image. Like I mentioned above, Song-yi was always very concerned about it, and, in fact, in any drama dealing with idol/actor life, there's a lot of focus on how important image is and how much that factors in the lives of those characters. The usual characterization would have been to have her smile brightly when the lights and cameras were on and then grow sullen again when they were off but Cindy is openly rude, can't be bothered to smile even for the camera, or be nice to her fans. But that doesn't happen either, and for me, that really brings home the trapped/exhausted/lonely angle, than the top diva star angle.

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If Cindy's character is true to your interpretation, then IU's portrayal is worse than I imagined because she certainly did not give me the idea that she's trapped/exhausted or what have you. Initially, I thought she might be going through the motion, but that's not it either. In fact, it's very hard to read what IU is trying to portray with Cindy. Hopefully, with more episodes, it would give us an insight into her character and behavior.

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You've said everything I've thought about, but so much better than I can articulate!

I've had to write some TV guides for work, and we only very limited information about the dramas and characters. It's a bigger problem when it comes to foreign language shows like K-dramas. I've come to suspect that more often than not, the synopses and character summaries provided officially are often done arbitrarily or sloppily, which then causes all sorts of expectations and/or misunderstandings about what the show is. For instance, I've seen 'icy' repeated verbatim in a lot of descriptions about Cindy, but I half-wonder if maybe the right word wasn't translated for the English audience... and that IU is actually portraying her as she was meant to be!

Other times, it could be case of the script changing direction midway, since a lot of dramas are shot 'live' - but that's less likely in this particular case because it's just started.

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Wow, your writing about Cindy is the best I've ever read! You describe it so much better than I could ever have, thank you!! It's so frustrating to see people getting caught up in the description without really looking at her in the drama, I feel so bad for IU and it's just unfair for Cindy the character. Her scenes touched me the deepest in the most gentle and warmest way, it's heartbreaking to see people judging it so harshly.

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@Preppy: I think part of that has to do with the logistical fact that IU hasn't gotten much screen-time, and no background. All her background information as yet has been expository, and done through the articles prior to airing. In contrast to this, the others have been given the chance to develop their characters and the second episode almost entirely revolved around CTH and KSH so you've got a good character sense there- not to mention GHJ too had a good amount of screen-time in both episodes combined. IU barely had maybe 7-8 minutes of actual screen-time this episode and only 2 scenes in an episode that was about 1 hour 20 minutes in its entirety.

Also, I'm not sure sure I'm explaining this well- I don't believe that Cindy knows she's trapped/exhausted, which is why she's not being actively played that way. Quite the opposite. I said this in the last episode too, but I feel like the saddest thing about Cindy for me is that she is so clearly lonely, and she equally clearly, doesn't even know she's lonely. I think this is where the direction has really stood its ground. Because the hints of how alone she is really came across when she was touched that someone would care enough about what she was eating to just buy her food- the idea that a small gesture like that would affect her that much- enough that her misguided interest in BSC is based on this- is a good enough showcase of how lonely she is. Except she actively tried not to show it, so that moment in execution is very subtle- unlike, say, similar moments in this episode re: JM and BSC as regards the encouragement given by Yoon Yeo Jung, where they were open about how touched they were. So what she feels comes across in the fact that she eats the kimbap, or that she watches BSC run across in the rain.

It's clear that she's trapped/exhausted etc. from the dialogues, as well as from her expressions in context. Except, and this is all my reading, I feel like those moments are all really subtly done and tie in well with each other, and often they seem to get lost in interpretation when taken in isolation. Like Cindy closing her eyes at her CEO's office, as if she couldn't care less about the conversation, when, just moments before the CEO had mentioned that she looked thin and frail and complimented her on the same and casually told her to get a drip, which suggests that she's genuinely exhausted, as much as she tries to play it off or not let it show. And that is interpreted as IU 'playing at being cold, badly' while it's Cindy 'playing at being cold, badly' in that moment. It's Cindy, the character, rather than IU, the actor, failing at being cold and divaesque, and just coming across as tired and bored and affected.

Maybe I'm reading too much into it (I always do that lol), but Cindy is legit turning into my favorite character in this series, and I'm happy to be her defence squad! That is not to say that I don't have problems with IU's...

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...acting, because I do, but I've found that the softer moments that she acts well, far outweigh the others for me.

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@osmanthus tea: I completely agree! I feel like character descriptions are just production short-hands for the media and that to take them as the "true" character, when the character on screen is telling you differently, is misdirected. I think the trouble is that someone somewhere said that IU was supposed to be a Song-yi-esque character, and she's now being judged on that parameter, while she's clearly nothing like Song-yi as of now. Her dialogues, now that I've thought about it, could be played in the Song-yi way, her boredom and rudeness could have been played for laughs and the marshmallow centre could have been more visible. She could have been played as someone with a diva front, whose really innocent on the inside. But whether it's a choice that IU as an actor made, or the directors themselves, it's clearly that she's actively not being played in that way. And rest assured, if IU was going completely against the director's vision, they would have corrected her on that point, so I have to assume that this was the character all along. Either way, even if this is not what the character was "supposed" to be, I hardly think it matters, because with what the character is, there's been consistency of characterization, so I'd just rather take the character that the show's giving me, especially as I love her!

@agoodheart: I feel the same! Ever apart from IU, whom I adore, I actually really, really like Cindy. I keep repeating this like a broken record, but the two scenes of her eating in both the episodes have actually been my favorites of the episodes themselves, because even without any dialogue, there's something really soft and vulnerable about them. I think eating is one of those activities that it's difficult to keep your guard up during as it is, so I love those glimpses of Cindy with her guard down. The feeling that for one moment, Cindy is not fighting, as she otherwise constantly seems to feel the need to. I do hope she gets more screen-time and development soon so that we don't constantly have to wonder about what the character is supposed to be, and just enjoy her as she is.

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Reading your interpretation of cindy and her "eating scenes" make me a little sad because IU, in her real life, have admitted in the past that she had an eating disorder. She confessed that she would eat and eat, to the point of throwing up, in the attempt to try and fill the void and emptiness that she would feel on the inside..

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Oh, really? That is so sad :( I think maybe it's that context which explains why those scenes stand out so much for me, even though technically there's nothing about them that would make you think that they should. But something in the way that IU played them really worked for me, and maybe it's that she's experienced this.

I also remember her saying that she was fat at the time of debut and largely overlooked because of it, so she also underwent starvation and crash diets, and that coupled with what you said, just makes the idol world sound so awful. Lack of food and sleep can be severely punishing on the mind and body, and it seems to be a matter of course for idols. So no wonder eating, which is such a regular activity otherwise, is constantly highlighted in Producer in relation to idols.

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I didn't suggest the characters were the same – I was talking about acting ability to portray a character that is one thing on the outside, another on the inside. Which perhaps Cindy isn't supposed to be – I don't know. She's was described as an "icy diva" in all the character descriptions I have seen, but I'm seeing no icy diva.

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I get what you mean! It's just my opinion, of course, but I would personally rather interpret the character from the drama itself, regardless of what the description says, especially when the character in the drama is consistently characterized and has internal logical consistency with how she acts in the drama and how others react to her. I don't think Cindy is one thing on the inside and another on the outside, ala Song-yi, which is what I meant by her not giving a damn about image. She's lonely, and clearly too young to be so jaded, and that has been fairly clear in the drama itself, but beyond that I don't think she's secretly hiding a gooey-core or anything. That, I think, will be part of her character-arc, if anything.

Of course IU is no Jun Ji‑hyun, but I feel like half of the criticism in general as re: her character seems to have been directed at how different she is from Song-yi and how she's not playing the Song-yi archetype well, while I don't see anything of Song-yi at all in her. And the character she is playing, she may not be playing as well as JJH playing Song-yi, but I don't think she's bad at all, and in two scenes I've found her extremely inspired. I may be mistaken in my reading, though!

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I honestly feel like have nothing different to add to this discussion other than I mostly agree with your assessment of Cindy's character. I've never seen her as Chun Song-yi 2.0 because they completely vary in characterizations and are played by two actresses of completely different calibre. Still, I real like the way you describe Cindy as 'trapped' because that's clearly what she is to me too.

She doesn't like the life she lives, but she's not actively trying to get out of it. When she tells the little girls that they really should just return home, it gives me the sense that she'd have done the same if she could turn back time. But she didn't and now is stuck in this terrible world with nowhere else to go. I also feel that unlike Song-yi who had friends and a family, Cindy feels alone. Like there's no one to confide in, and no one who truly cares. Everyone's sort of seeks her out for their own benefits; even her fans which is why she doesn't bother being nice to them.

Then there's the PD who bought her 'real' food just as her CEO suggest she gets IV fluids if she feels exhausted. The same PD (in her mind) gives her an umbrella then runs off in the rain. Those are hardly anything touching for someone who gets lots of affections day in and day out. But for someone like Cindy, its almost a life-line. She wants that so bad, someone to care for her not because of how popular she is, but just because she needs it.

I think the dramas focus is really on Seung-chan and his struggles as a rookie PD. He makes me feel the most, undoubtedly because he gets the most screen time plus KSH plays him with such underhanded brilliance. But at the very least Seung-chan can go home at night to a warm family who loves him and shelters him. Cindy has no refuge which is why I also find her heartbreaking. I do hope IU continues to improve although can't help but feel someone like Jung Eun-ji would have nailed Cindy to perfection. Still, IU is really not as bad as some make her seem. With more screen time, I hope they peel off her layers because IU is much better at nicer roles than stone faced ones.

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Since the opinions of this show are so wildly contrasting, it’s nice to be able to share some of them in common with people! As I said in a reply above, going by the dialogues alone, it’s probably possible for Cindy to be played in a Song-yi-esque manner, but in my opinion, the fact that she’s not, doesn’t really take away from the character for me. In fact, rather, I’m glad that we’re getting a different side of the same archetype- the jaded, lonely top star. It would have been a cop-out to make Cindy a Song-yi 2.0, as you said. I am also completely surprised by the comparisons to Jun Ji-hyun, I would have never imagined anyone would go in this show with the expectation that IU would somehow be the next Jun Ji-hyun. I too thought Eun-ji would have been really great in this, but I’m one of the few who’s really enjoying IU, so can’t say I regret the casting in the least!

The reason I like the Seung-chan/Cindy dynamic is also because of what you mentioned, that most people who seek her out do so for their benefit, and she’s so used to that being the norm that, by now, she automatically sees it in every person who approaches her, and she writes them off before they’ve spoken. You can totally make out that “Aha!” moment when Seung-chan asked for her number, and it was obvious that she thought that had been his game-plan all along, and was the “price” of the umbrella. But the more he spoke, the more confused she became with his painful earnestness in contrast to how she’d labelled him in her head. As with the earlier “real” food scene, I think it comes across really strongly, as you said, how starved for real affection she is. And it isn’t a big moment, like Seung-chan or Joon-mo with Yoo Yeo-jung’s kindness or Seung-chan’s happiness at Ye-jin being nice to him. Because you get the sense that both the guys feel like they’d been hard-done-by that day and are grateful for the kindness, while Cindy doesn’t even realize she needs kindness or affection, so her characterization, in that sense, is less obvious, and comes through only through brief moments when she’s alone and lets her guard down.

I love Seung-chan!! I genuinely thought he’d be Samdong v. 2.0, but I’m really impressed by all the different character tics that KSH has introduced, and his slowness and bashfulness in particular are very endearing. (In fact if Cindy’s characterization is questioned on the basis of the three-line character description pre-airing, I’m surprised his isn’t, because there’s nothing about Seung-chan on-screen which suggests Ivy-league-law-student-who-left-the-legal-world-to-pursue-his-love.) I do agree, that having a family or someone to talk to, which the other three do, makes a world of difference. I’m sure though that the stone-faced characterization of Cindy is on its way out, because even in this episode as compared to the last, she was very different, especially in her last scene with Seung-chan. I’m really looking forward to her...

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@Zoe

I think I'll have to disagree regarding Seung-chan not living up to the character descriptions in the press release. The ivy-league-law-student part is not emphasized in the drama, but we've seen many instances where Seung-chan is shown to be book-smart, and the exact opposite when it comes to being street-smart.

Like in the first episode: he tells the VJ that he's already bought the book that was being recommended by the Chief. As in, he's already tried reading ahead of time. Then in ep 2, he researches on 'history of Korean comedy' which is such a geeky, dorky thing to do lol. It shows that studying is his go-to solution when being in a difficult situation. Of course, we also see that he's been chasing after the noona he's in love with but that bubble burst too early.

I think IU doesn't do justice to the Ice Princess description unlike the other three actors who's really lived up to the expectations. Its probably why there's a lot of criticism since she's not playing the part right or something. But IU does bring in a different type of character and I'm totally fine with what I see since instead of being hung up on pre-airing characterizations. I do hope she improves so many others can see the potential of the character.

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Ah, that's a really good point as re: his fixation on book knowledge! I guess I was concentrating more on the "lawyer" part, I'm in law school myself, so while research is a huge part of it, it's impossible to be as inarticulate in speech or take things as literally as Seung-chan does, not when the competition is insane. But since he only (got into? joined?) had a peripheral relation with the legal field, I guess the research fixation is a good enough character emphasis.

IU doesn't live up to the Ice Princess role for sure, but I think Gong Hyo Jin's character description from what she turned out to be was very different too. I had genuinely believed it to be a rehash of her IOIL role going by the description alone, which it isn't, and which I'm extremely glad about. But because her character errs on the side of being more human and relatable, and Cindy being more remote and inaccessible, there's disproportionate concentration on the difference. And I completely agree, I personally couldn't care less about character descriptions, unless I felt the show was trying to make me believe in a certain characterization and failing, which isn't the case, so I'm good with the direction it's taking! I do hope though that the Cindy is given more screen-time and room for development because I want to see other shades of her and more of her interactions with the others.

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Quoted from:
http://www.askkpop.net/article/Director-Pyo-Min-soo-from-quot-Producers-quot-quot-Kim-Soo-hyeon-I-has-outstanding-analytical-skills/#.VVr9aSCJhjo

According to Co-Director Pyo Min-soo Kim Soo Hyun has an outstanding character analyzing skills. He said he had shot four episodes so far and he had never had to ask Soo Hyun for more about Baek Seung Chan. He said, "...he interprets the script very well".

Which means, Kim Soo Hyun has successfully delivered the character of Baek Seung Chan.

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@KDnewfan: But that's precisely my point though, that I feel the actors have really delivered their characters, even if it wasn't what the viewers may have initially expected from their character-descriptions. Like I have a very good sense of character re: BSC because of Soo-hyun's acting.

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Thank god this episode was better than the first. I finally felt that emotional connection I was missing from the premiere, and actually find myself excited for next week again. I think taking the cameras off them helped immensely; it was like removing a crutch, forcing them to be themselves and not put on a show for the camera. It felt like a drama again. Can't wait for more! ^_^

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frankly speaking,I think this drama will not appeal to teenagers or young ppl who are expecting the usual love line in kds...but I am enjoying watching these actors making fun of the crazy stuffs happening in broadcasting stations..

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i agree with you,..this type of format wont appeal to teens,all they concerned in k drama was romance,.or their romantic relationship,.but in my opinion,.i found it NEW to my eyes and INTERESTING one,this is a drama that everyone can learn a lot to the characters,especially to those who are new comers,or rookies,and those who are superiors.this drama is the best,.the writer is actually the best.

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ON BOARD THIS SHOW. Episode 2 was wayyy better for me than one. Anyone else shipping the crap out of Cindy and BSC? Also that kiss at the end made my spit out my drink...so unexpected! Im loving this show and am looking forward to what comes next week

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Am I the only one who doesn't think of Geu Rae when looking at Seung Chan? I mean okay, the characters are in similar situations but they have different personalities. Even the feel of the two shows are different. I see Misaeng as more on the serious side (I was damn depressed while watching it) while Producer is lighter and leans towards meta-drama.

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Earthna,

No, you're not the only one. Like you, I saw Seung Chan and Geu Rae as two characters with different personalities - who both just happen to be newbies on the job - but both are subjected day in, day out to ordeals/encounters where they have to learn quickly about the workplace/office environment and adapt as best as they can to the organization's culture.

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Thank you! Now I know I'm not alone.

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I don't either!!!

Seung Chan is nerdie and dorkie, straight-arrow, from rich and loving, supportive family etc...

Gue-rae is nothing like Seung Chan.

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I too see nothing of Geu-rae in Seung-chan other than they are both newbies at work.

Plus Producer is nothing like Misaeng as far as tone and vibe go. One is way too depressing/serious and the other is funny/bright.

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This show feels gloriously sacrilegious. I love it~

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I was pretty bummed after reading netcitizens reaction on the first episode. Then I watched the episode and totally enjoyed it. So much dry humor! I love the mockumentary style.

Kudos for KBS trying something different and also to the main actors for going out on a limb and accepting their roles.

I adored KSH as an alien in his previous drama. But that doesn't compare to how I feel about BSC after only two episode. Those innocent eyes and adorkable personality. Love this character. I'm so rooting for him. I want happiness in his future. There it a huge opportunity for character development for him. Can't wait to see what the writers have in store for him.

Surprisingly Cindy, is the other character that I'm interested in. She intrigues me and I want to know more about her. I would love a friendship between her and BSC. I think they can be good for each other.

I have to like a character to be interested in their romance. RJM and TYJ are bullies. I really dislike them after this episode. So their kiss did nothing for me. Actually I'm all for there not being any romance in this drama.

I also adored the actress that played the older lady that was fired. I wish she could stay on board as a supporting character. Also loved the office supply Nazi. LOL

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i love this drama. thanks for recapping!

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Misaeng wasn't everyone's cup of tea either, but, well, we all know how that turned out. It's only episode 2 after all. This kind of show needs a slower start as it's completely character driven. No magic, no supernatural creatures, no amnesia, dopplegangers or terminal illnesses (so far as I know). Just Kim Soo Hyun and his awesomely funny passive aggressive antics-romance to come later. In this format subtle humor is funnier than any slapstick ridiculousness. But hey, that's only my opinion.

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I just love this show and the way it peels back the layers that form every one of us without hammering us over the head with a "message."

Whether it's KSH dissecting Korean comedy one minute and continuing his passive-aggressive punishments the next, or the bosses who spend more time considering food choices than the fate of their staff, or the Queen of Office Supplies who wrings every drop of blood out of you so she can matter, the characters are all so true in what we all are (or see) everyday.

There was so much that was funny and so much that was poignant. I just thing everyone was stellar.

Yoon Yeo-jung, I bow down at you alter.

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I've found that the kdramas where my patience is rewarded in a good way have ended up being some of the most endearing dramas and memorable gems.

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I enjoy this show!

It's a fresh vibe that it brings to K-drama arena. Perhaps as a older-in-age audience who has lots of work experience and seen the inner system of a workplace, I feel more related to the show's plot.

I also am an avid fan of 2D1N, and in LOVE with CTH, this show is just the "it" for me right now.

Thank you for recapping.

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Is there any way I can skip episode 1 and watch this one lol the reactions on episode 2 seem infinitely better than one and I want to see if this really rocks my socks but dear god, I can barely keep my eyes open in Episode 1.

Don't get me wrong, I love dry humor and mockumentaries...The Office and Parks/Rec have been some of my favorite shows but this one just comes off as trying too hard in my opinion, I am literally straight faced the whole time. I will continue to try to get to episode 2 cause everyone is raving about it.

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if you could not stand episode 1 just skip it.. but this show is not for everyone. it a subtle comedy and not everyone can get it..
spoiler alert* episode 1 is like promoting kbs..haha..and some characters introduction.

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Ugh, I was cringing so bad during Seung Chan's mishaps. He definitely shouldn't have been the one to break the bad news.

Ye Jin is pretty two-faced. One moment she's trying to be nice to Seung Chan, but when she finds out that the car repair charges are still the same, she is back to being mean to him.

I thought Kim Jong Kook was great! His acting wasn't bad at all. It was a bit hard to keep his character separate from his tough KJK self, but I liked his scene.

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First time poster on DB. As a Korean American, it's nice to see a website devoted to kdramas and seeing some fresh perspectives on some of these shows.

Producer is definitely not a comedy for everyone. It definitely has a "The Office" feel to it, but instead of just having 1 main lead (Steve Carrell), Producer has really 4 main leads. People try to compare it to Misaeng but it's really not. Misaeng is a workplace drama so it connects to people on much more of a personal level. People can relate to that show much easier because of the setting it's in. That premise alone makes it different from the Producer.

I enjoy the depth of this show and the different comedy it tries to project. Cindy's character (played by IU) is a bit overexaggerated in the beginning, but one I think will have the most growth by the end. KSH plays an amazing lead here and yes, he does kind of go back to his Dream High roots as the loveable, but kinda of dopey newbie character.

Wish people will be patient and give the show a little leeway. Looking forward to ep 3 and 4 next week.

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I just decided to watch this show after finishing Blood. I wasn't exactly that satisfied with the ending of that one but it was okay.

Anyways, I think that this show is absolutely refreshing! I'm an avid k-drama fan. That being said, what saddens me about k-drama is that in k-dramaland every glitch (even the really big ones) are always forgiven so it feels like I always have to forgive a show for a stupid plot device or things that make absolutely no sense because I like the actor or something. But that's just all gone with this show (thus far). It's very real and I don't even feel a tiny bit bored by it. I love comedy shows and I loved how they used a format similar to The Office but injected elements that were true to k-drama. The show is definitely not boring! I laughed a lot and my eyes were glued to the computer screen the whole time. ^_^

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I seriously don't get people. This show is freakin' gold. Not only it is refreshing but hilarious, cute, fluffly and also harsh and very emotional. I felt so much for all the characters and I really can't wait for the next episodes. I want to know so much about all the characters because they are really all interesting.
For someone like me interested in variety shows, it's pure heaven because it shows how it really is behind the scenes and again, Park Ji Eun didn't disappoint me so yeap', I don't freakin' care about the reactions/opinions of others anymore and I am just going to be focused on the awesomeness of The Producers :D

I am so glad it does well on the ratings though. Of course, it was an highly anticipated drama with loots of huge stars in the cast but y'know, new timeslot and mixed reactions for the first episode got me a little bit scared. I hope it will be another hit for Kim Soo Hyun because he is killing it. I love how versatile he is as an actor and that he doesn't play safe unlike other actors of his generation (not going to say the names, everyone knows who they are :P)

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OMO its CTH and GHJ???? my heart is already broken, i want it to be GHJ and KSH.. omo my poor heart

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You said IU is less good than her counterparts but I actually fell that for a not so long actress she gets her part done pretty well.I don't feel like she is giving attitude to give attitude. She is giving it because it is the only way to survive a life she seems to find boring and not worth the trouble. I really wonder what they cooked up to be her backstory.

I like it, really. It's not the most entertaining show ever, and the docu-fiction makes it a bit long - alongside the overflowing cameos and références to Kbs - but I feel drawn to the characters. I wonder where they came from, what their stories are or will be, how all this world is gonna come up together...

Not bad for a show so heavily promoted ! Let's not talk about the star casting... I mean, we all saw Heirs, right ^^ It's already clear that Producers won't take the same path... or so I hope.

Geeky Kim So Hyun is just the icing on the cake héhé

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(sorry for the mistakes, I'm french ^^)

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I am not sure what to say about the drama since I am just reading your recaps now. But this one is a drama I wanted to watch. And if I have the time, I definitely will. I liked the recaps and I think it's a good show.
I actually want to thank jb and gf for recapping the series.
And seriously, Cha Tae-hyun is...wow. Like I did not like him enough in 2d1n. Is it even possible for me to like him more?

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The consensus is that KSH is slow and naive. I see some of that, but also an intelligent, studeous, caring individual, who's character will surely bloom. Also, his vindictive streak is hilarious. Cindy better return that umbrella! My prediction remains for a 20 rating. BTW, with this format, could there be an extra 2 eps. if warranted.

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Yes, I love that BSC is coming off as a naive doofus but underneath there is a little sh*t just waiting to come out. Every time he does something like hanging the trash on the car mirror or trying to give the broken chair to his boss (or using the hand blow dryer while CTH is on the phone beside him), I just laugh my fool head off. Looking forward to seeing more of the evil come to the surface, I wish I could watch 3 and 4 right now!

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Okay what is WITH TYJ?? I don't care if she was played with JJH, the character is so unlikable and a huge bully. If this were a HS drama, the reaction to her would have been different, I am sure. GHJ is good, but TYJ is a terrible person and her "human traits" hardly glosses over the fact that she's such is bitch personified. Those kids are here to learn because they are rookies. As a senior with 10 years of experience, her responsibility is to help them out. Fine if she doesn't do that. But what is with the lame pretence of caring for a rookie, then asking for him to be dismissed behind his back. All because she does not want to pay for her mistakes. She's acting like she is 15, and its not cute or engaging at all. Sorry for the rant! Everyone else is really likable especially BSC. So sweet and naive.

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I share your feelings!

I hate TYJ almost to the point that I want to turn the volume to mute so that I would not hear her voice every time she appears... she is so irresponsible, so irritating! so two-face!

(well....this only means that GHJ has done a good job :D )

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OMG, and I really thought I was the only one!

Ye Jin is someone I don't want to meet or work with. Ever. Its one thing to be bossy, authoritative, and dominant. But being two-faced is really not what I like from my heroine. The writer put a lot of emphasis on her financial situation right from being unable to find a place to live in and then her brother is also in med school. That makes me sympathize with her situation. But -->Seung Chan's car damage was her fault which if I recall correctly, she wasn't even going to admit to but (un)fortunately got caught on camera. If she were mature, she'd have pulled Seung Chan, a table, two chairs and talked it out. Instead she let her ego get in the way.

Seung Chan did the right thing by asking for the money. They have a working relationship and I see no reason for him to say --> Okay, just don't pay me. But Ye Jin got pissed that he didn't do that and is now after getting him kicked out of KBS. How is that professional? Or rational? Or even mature for a 30+ lady to be doing (that too to someone much junior to her)? The kid is innocent and she knows this. I can't make myself care for such a sh*tty person so her side of romance is just not doing it for me. I'd rather have no Ye Jin and more of the other three leads because at least their success wouldn't make me feel like they don't deserve it.

(i don't know if this means that Gong Hyo Jin is doing her job correctly or not. Kim Soo Hyun is doing it perfectly though, because I have so much sympathy and love for the kid. He doesn't deserve the sh*t he's being given)

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This is the first drama I have watched in awhile! I wanted to watch it cos of the actors in it! Kim Jong kook is in it , plus IU and the others. It is VERY easy to criticise the acting or/and a movie when you're not the ones in it, and as one who knows about the media/broadcasting sort of thing i want to give Kudos to the actors and the crew for trying out this new genre/style in this 12episode drama! However, i have to say, i agree with some, it's not the BEST drama i have encountered even in the 2 eps, it's not for everyone and i believe that it's not a suitable drama to introduce to someone who knows nothing about Korea,as they wouldn't get the references/jokes, in my opinion. But in the good side, i think KJK is doing a good job in portraying his character, i didnt see him there, i saw his character hA. And i'm looking forward to see how relationships evolves, IF i do continue watching the drama.

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This episode was definitely better than the first. KSH is definitely doing it for me. I like his character so much and the amount of sympathy for that kiddo is leaps and bounds. Mostly because his seniors are immature for being, well, you know, seniors. It's aggravating.

I still do not like GHJ's character. But there are snippets where you do sympathize with her (somewhat) so there's still room to actually like her. It's just...probably going to take a long time. I don't know how much patience I have for that.

Surprisingly, I've come to like CTH's character quite quickly. Again, what the heck kind of a PD are you if you can't do things professionally? Lol. I was pretty pissed. Rolling eyes at CTH so hard. Dear Drama, you have succeeded in making me care.

I quite like IU's character. Cindy is refreshing. I think if she really did act like the "diva that everyone's scared of", I'd just roll my eyes and think, "Oh, another one of your typical brats." But she's so refreshing. I really liked the umbrella scene where she was telling her manager to get the umbrella for her. Lol. IDK but her acting in there was spot-on. (And yes, I'm trying to vouch for IU because some people seem to think it's not working at all...IMHO, works very well for me.)

All the characters show depth that's yet to be explored so I'm kind of excited where this is going now. I'll be honest, I had to stop halfway through this episode because I just couldn't care at all for any of the characters but I figured I'd get through it and now I'm invested.

That ending kiss scene was cute too. A little unexpected because I really didn't feel anything going on between GHJ and CTH despite all the signs. Lol. But that kiss is working. The chemistry has been ignited.

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the show is somewhat ok to me. ksh character is just cute in away. a total straight A blood type personality hahaha

was just wondering if DB will ever recap "Ex-Girlfriend Club",
because i find the show quite funny and entertaining. Would be nice to read some of DB recaps and comments about it here hehe

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I found this show to be very satisfying and love how they film this like a mocumentary. All the actors san IU are doing such a good job. It's so interesting to know what PDs are actually up to behind the scene. I will definitely will be watching this.

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I would like to know where ye-jin PD is spending her money! She doesn't even pay rent!!!

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Gumawo......thanks for sharing

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Great review! I died at the Toner/Soup Nazi reference. That's exactly what she is!

I was a bit worried about how well the mockumentary style would be executed, but already 2 episodes and I'm suckered in. The execution is perfect in my eyes so far. There's deadpan humor, cringes for days, and full of heart realism all crammed into 80 minutes. The eps could run for 120 minutes, and I'll still want more.

Keep it up, girlfriday! Your reviews complete my every kdrama episode. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

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I can see why some people feel a bit bored. This isn't your typical K-drama and right now we don't know what the conflict is. Typical K-dramas usually establish the conflict that needs to be solved at the 1st episode. But we're on episode 2 and we're still yet to know what the real end goal of this drama is other than a romance ending, which we're a bit unsure of as to who is actually gonna end up with who. It doesn't help that this drama airs for 80 minutes. If this was only a typical 60 minute drama, then maybe people wouldn't be very bored. I'm glad though that the writer is trying a new kind of mixed genre and I hope it goes well.

That being said, I still think the drama was funny. At first I didn't like how Kim Soo Hyun is acting like a total dummy here when he's always acted like someone you don't wanna mess with back in Moon Embracing the Sun or My Love From the Star. But then he manages to deliver the same amount of comedy being a complete dummy as being a badass. I wanted that van scene to go on for a while. The preview also shows more Kim Soo Hyun mishaps so I'm looking forward to that.

I'm not liking IU's character though. She is now a totally dark version of her in You're the Best Lee Soon Shin. I prefer her happy and hardworking Soon Shin character. For some reason she never gets decent roles. She did well in You're the Best Lee Soon Shin but then her character always gets stepped on to the point that she ends up crying or running away for the most part instead of like fighting back. I hope her character improves as we go along.

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I am loving this show. The understated humor has me roaring with laughter. Its quiet moments and its small triumphs and realistic daily struggles make it a gem in my eyes. I think we can all find a character we relate to ( for better or worse) and that makes it endearing.

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I personally really enjoyed Producers. At first I was hesitant to watch it because so many people called it crappy and boring but I'm glad I decided to watch it anyways! It is not laugh out loud funny but it is humorous in its take on every day interactions. And since I don't care for romances that begin at a breathtaking pace, the slowly changing hearts makes me happy.

The young trainees being fed one sweet potato a day while dancing for 12 hours really broke my heart because the sad thing is, you can't figure out if the show is exaggerating the pressures for idols to remain thin or if they actually go through with those extreme diets. Just looking at IU's super skinny figure, it is not surprising that she eats an apple for breakfast.

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As long as I remember, this is my first time commenting in db. I came to watch this drama when I searched the high rating given by jb and gf in this site's drama list. I thought I should give it a try. Fortunately, it gets along with my drama taste and I've watched many korean variety shows and korean dramas. So, I feel this this type of drama very refreshing and it hits the ground of harsh reality of producing korean shows and all related to them, but it's still watchable as the mock-documentary and references humour managed to balance the reality portrayal that some might think it's boring or they are still young and don't get the real life confrontation or they are old enough and don't want to watch this kind of story that could relate to their bitter past when they were the rookies or the seniors. The real reason I commented here is to state my disappointment at the very first comment thread that divert me from my real intention when I surf this site. I want to read the recaps, it's excellent as always. But, when I scroll down to read what other share their opinions, or highlight their favourite moments or state their favourite characters, it's none of them. It's really disturbing me that it could be like a culture shock to me. Speaking of hating tv shows, I never expect that writing hateful comments towards it disturbing me very much. However, I'm glad there were many comments below it that cheer me up to enjoy this drama, even though there are some hateful comments in between of them. That's all I want to say. At first at I'm expecting KSH fans would over-praising him in the first or early comments, but what is that hateful and rudeness mix together in a comment thread? I think I should stop here because the more I think the more I write. Btw, if they are who dissatisfied why db's not recapping this and that drama that have high rating or lovable by many, I'm also dissatisfied with the Nine Time Travels drama. But, I cool myself down after reading db's explanation and I accept that because they are humans too with work and private lives and they have their own favourites and dislikes. They are not your personally hired writers to satisfy your own opinion by recapping your only favourite drama and leaving out drama that you dislike. When I curious, I searched the drama recaps at db, whether I like it or not is based on db opinion and the first episode after db recaps it with interest. Then I decide to go on watching the rest or not, as I'm not catch up with the real time release drama and its recap, but I watch it late or sometimes because I want to know the views after it finished airing, its likeable or not. Thank you db for recapping most of my favourite dramas, and the beanies who keep writing their opinion in a good sentence and makes me smile while reading it. I'm sorry if this is harsh for you to read and it's very long. I hope we can live our lives peacefully and understanding each other worldwide better.

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