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Odds and Ends: Stars for everyone!

javabeans: It’s been a while since we’ve done an Odds and Ends! Hm, I wonder why… it can’t be because we haven’t been doing anything lately.

girlfriday: We do… stuff! We just have to stop talking to each other in regular life, so that we have things to say in Odds and Ends. Maybe I’ll just stop speaking to you from now on.

javabeans: And this is to be MORE productive? I think there is a flaw in your reasoning.

girlfriday: I never said it was logical.

javabeans: Maybe it’s more that we have been doing so much work on behind-the-scenes stuff that we’ve been too tired to add to our plate. Most nights I go to bed only because I can’t keep my eyes open in front of my computer.

girlfriday: That could be all the YouTube cat videos.

javabeans: AND ALSO WORK. There is quite a lot of it, even if you can’t tell on the front end. We’re working on stuff, we swear!

girlfriday: For instance, you might have noticed the stars at the stop of each recap and wondered how they got there.

javabeans: The star ratings are a new feature we’re trying out, and you can rate drama episodes by leaving a comment, at which point a pop-up window will direct you to vote. You can only vote once per episode, but the good news is, there are a ton of episodes on Dramabeans. Go nuts!

girlfriday: Oh, and just to be clear, it’s a rating for the episode, rather than the recap.

javabeans: Yes, if the recap sucks, you can just tell us in words. The stars are for the TV show itself.

girlfriday: Let us know if there are any bugs or if you have trouble voting (be specific about what browser and OS you’re using, and we’ll try to fix any problems that arise). Hopefully it’ll be a fun new feature that you guys can play around with, because yunno, it’s fun to grade things and give out gold stars.

javabeans: Yes, and hopefully we’ll be able to keep it around for a long while. I’m always sad when a fun feature starts creating problems with the site and needs to be disabled (RIP, pretty thumbs), but we’d like to keep the stars around!

girlfriday: That reminds me, I should go to old recaps of City Hunter and give it all of the stars!

javabeans: Oh, I should go to all the anger-inducing endings and give them bad ratings. Sadly, angrily giving someone one star doesn’t feel quite as satisfying as giving an awesome show five stars. You can’t give a show zero stars because then you just didn’t vote, so one star has to be your message. “Feel the wrath of my one starrrr!”

girlfriday: Ooooo, buuuuurrrn. Way to show that show! *eyeroll*

javabeans: Fine, maybe it’s a lame statement. I’m still going to one-star the hell out of Bad Guy and Big and Mary Stayed Out All Night, though.

girlfriday: Okay, can’t really argue with those.

javabeans: But maybe I’ll be nice and start with the love. I have more of that to give anyway.

girlfriday: Race you to the Healer page!

javabeans: Already beat you to it.

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Now this makes more sense. I was arbitrarily clinching on the page to figure out how the star rating worked.

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So do you have to comment to be able to rate the recap?

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Stars galore for all the Twenty again episodes! And one star-nig the heck out of Bad Guy! That drama ending almost ruined me! I rarely watch dramas live anymore cuz of the awful ending burn. I don't think I've hated an ending more after loving the rest of it. Thankful that my past experience helped me wait for the whole drama reviews to be posted for "Marry Me if You Dare/ Mirae's Choice" because I would've probably flipped tables if I wasted my life on that one! Looking forward to giving out love stars!

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Today when posted on the "Running Man" thread I noticed the pop-up "STARS" rating and so I started to fill in 4 stars for this episode. But as soon as I put one, it left. (Now I know, only pick the place holder of the stars you wish to assign. But when I did it this morning it looks like I was "panning" the running man episode. And actually, I jjinja liked it.

Still it's a good idea, now that I know what to do. Thanks for letting us rate the shows.

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Oh, and can I rate episodes on all the shows? Seriously, I would have given "Shine or Go Crazy" four stars all the way up until the last hour. That last one gets a ZERO.

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you're beautiful! long time no see jang geun seok....it's been ages....

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Because a certain show decided to cut him away after all his hard work because a scandal resurfaced conveniently and utterly surprising at the right time. And not the same guy needs to go serve the country that hates him with all his heart.

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Thank you!! This weekend my only work is to 5 star eps of my favorite dramas. Healerya~ am coming!!

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hmmm . .. I like the rating idea but it would be nice to be able to rate without leaving a comment. I just left a comment on an answer me 1997 ep saying "leaving this comment so I can rate" which doesn't seem helpful for the comment section. (Don't worry - I won't do that for others.)

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I completely agree. Why not extend it to people not commenting?

Is it simply to increase the number of comments?

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It's the way the plugin works. :)

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Ah, that makes sense. Thank you for the explanation Javabeans.

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@TG it's probably because it makes it harder for it to be abused. It adds one extra step to the process so people who just want to sneakily increase or decrease an episode a million times have more work to do. Also, it encourages conversation, especially for currently airing shows! :)

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@Mindy: I agree with TG; I suppose that cookies can take care of tracking votes; and if someone wants to cheat with the vote count, they can just comment "+1" ten times.

I myself tend to watch episodes long after they have aired, so at that point it doesn't seem to make much sense to add a comment when most conversations are over. But I wish I could at least drop by and add my two cents. The average star rating is also a good way to decide whether to give a show a try, without looking through hundreds of individual comments...

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Same here. Most of the times I watch the dramas that have already finished because then I know if they are worth watching or not. Maybe like TG I will comment “leaving this comment so I can rate” but add my own opinion about the show.

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Thanks for providing the star definitions. I like this feature on tv.com where I can know what episodes to scan when I am binging.

https://xkcd.com/1098/

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Ooh, fun! I wonder if this feature works on mobile since I periodically check db throughout the day on my phone. I'll find out later! Anyways, I liked the Thumbs Up feature, too; It's a conveniently way to agree with someone with a simple ??. Was it technical problems that messed up the site or... Nah? Here's to fun and appropriate usage of ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️!

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Off to Level 7 Civil Servant and Doctor Stranger. If only there was an option of zero stars.

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I honestly have been missing a lot of kdramas lately... and that goes for dramabeans too...it's so nice to see that there's a new feature!

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Off to My Girlfriend is a Gumiho and Punch finales. Five stars

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If there is a show I want to give half or a quarter a star, the first on my list will be Lie To Me. How I watched that drama till the end, I will never know but never has my laptop come close to harm as much as it did during that time...all at my hands.

Wish there were recaps of A Man Called God on dramabeans because I would give each episode 3 stars only because Song Il-kook went on to father the most adorable triplets ever.

How will we rate Gaksital? Atleast let one of the stars ride a horse/have a mask...

Thanks for explaining the star ratings bit...

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But I think you can only rate an episode once anyway.

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so that means we can rate an episode only when we comment? Can't we just read the recap quietly and mark a star, because we don't always have to say about an episode.

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Thanks for the new feature! Recaps here dont need ratings since they are always awesome!
Will rate Twenty again last week ep as 5 stars! Love that drama

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Love the rating option and i will give all the awesome shows 5 and waste shows i won't even bother.

LoL i find it funny how people gave stars thinking it was for recaps.i don't have any problems with recap. Except for one of she was pretty recap where you misunderstood that sung joon knows the truth (my Korean sucks but still i was like he never did ,re-watched whole episode ) small problem still half comments were on that so(it got on my nerve)

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I got two chances to vote for our current fave SASSY, GO GO. Too bad it was both on one device.

I beat you both to the HEALER threads! Pretty awesome that we're given a new feature to gush over HILLEO. ???

Took a trip down memory lane to Answer 1997, thanks to the many feels from SASSY.

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@ fab

Did you really "beat" us to the Healer threads? :D *gush gush!*

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@gb well technically speaking I was the first ?

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Wellllll, since I'm always lurking there... :D
Though I have to admit @Sumee is a tough contender.

*waves*

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LOL!
Now I'm tempted to go and check out who really got there first! :-D

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@Wag_a_Muffin
Was the end that bad??

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Off to five star all episodes of Reply 1997. One of the very few dramas that was satisfying from beginning to end.

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Oh good. I have a vendetta against a certain Basketball show. And another one for a Hana Kimi remake...

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Loving the star ratings!! I'll definitely be dishing them out over the weekend. But I was just wondering over the disparity between the 4 and 5 stars. Should 4 stars come with plot holes so glaring that you have to squint to cover them? I'd like to think that giving an 4 stars is close to 5, just with minor niggles included. And that doesn't necessarily have to do with the plot. Just my two cents. Thank you for the post! Always love a good update on Odds and Ends.

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Oops, I meant to say "giving an ep 4 stars..."

While we're at it, is it too much to hope for an "edit" feature? Hehe

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Seriously, I don't know how you girls do it. I tried recapping a while ago and it was really difficult. Now, I have a full-time job and I'm always tired when I get home that I usually just skip dinner, use what little energy I have to watch whatever episode of the drama I'm watching aired this week and hit the haysack. i totally see why you guys hired all those minion writers.

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Oh man - the picture makes me want to watch You're Beautiful again!

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I love this new feature! And I vote in favour of keeping it, even with the commenting requirement.

It isn't too late to five-star the living daylights out of every single episode of Misaeng, right?

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and actually, I think seeing the star screen only when you comment is a good thing, even if it means I have to +1 all my old dramas.

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LOL 5 star the hell out of the cast too while you are at it.

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OMG Misaeng, how could I forget! That will be my first star assignment.

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omg YAB!!!
That's all :)

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The gold star standard - Healer & City Hunter. Couldn't agree with you ladies more.

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@fab (re: Shine Or Go Crazy) -- Yes. Yes it was. Wag-a-muffin is spot on.

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SIGH- although I will never get the 16 hrs that I've lost for BIG( negative 1 ⭐️) , I will still give my Yoo ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️. I mean how can anyone not???

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True, if we could rate the actors in certain shows without rating the show, I'd give stars all over the place.

I liked Gong Yoo in Big too!

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I came here after voting healer(mind you all the 20 episodes ❤️)
And this post makes me miss-you are beautiful what a sweetly crazy drama and jung geun suk need to come back to drama land

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LOL! @ Sumee is eternally Ji Chang Wook's?

You actually managed all 20 episodes of Healer???!!!! :D

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@GB

She's extraordinary, that girl. ;) Way to go @Sumee!
Now off to give 5 stars for every Healer episode. ^^

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@giegie he he he well thank you .. JCW makes me do all kinda stuff..

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@gb yes I did..pats proudly on my back

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This girl is on a roll! :-D

Way to go, @Sumee!

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@pastmidnide my love for JCW and healer is still strong

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Yaaahhh!!!!! Me tooo voted for all the 20 eps....Healer still drives me crazy like this !!!!!

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@fantasy neat job ..hi5

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Proud of you @Fantasy!

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Thankieeesss :) @Sumee and @Fab

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Way to go @Sumee!

I also intended on 5 stars rating every episode, but I got distracted and read the recaps instead- uhm I was more scrolling through the pictures<3- that I didn't get to comment. I'm getting there though.

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Haha Healer was my first thought too!!

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We are sooo funny! I did manage to vote in Healer but not more than 2 episodes, I think. And one time I was given a chance to vote a 2nd time, therefore, the more times we comment, the more likely it will be to have the chance to vote and to vote more than once.

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I actually have a comment regarding the recaps.
I think it will be better if recap screenshots expressed more action. Currently, most of the screenshots are mainly faces of the main heroes in all kinds of expressions (for example, She Was Pretty ep. 8). The problem is, these screens are not helpful in restoring the plot, which is the main purpose of the recap.
I've started reading recaps at DB four years ago, and I remember if I was wondering whether to start a new drama or if I was just getting interested in the recap, I could look through the screenshots and it was already enough to restore the main events in the plot. If you try to do the same now (even for action-packed Yong-pal), you will mostly see main leads constantly looking surprised, but in different locations.

I think it will be great if screenshots became more informative. For example, in She Was Pretty Episode 8 recap photos of Sung Joon shouting and Hye Jin looking at him, but if there was a screen of the photo studio and/or torn dress, you could at least get the idea about location or the reason of his behavior.

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I'm good with the pretty faces.

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I'm scared of spoilers; it happens often enough with the opening lines of the recap, those that you can see even if you do not click on it. I keep being able to follow the plot of shows that I haven't started watching (dear recappers, could you please keep it as vague as possible on those opening lines?) -- same about screencaps; sometimes I scroll down to the general commentary, just to see if the recapper liked it as a whole; I don't mind it if the photos do not give away the actual plot as I scroll down. But I guess I am a minority in that particular habit...

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@delurker, i am totally agree with you!
Dear recappers, please keep it as vague as possible... Just enough details to intrigue me to go watch the episode or simply rekindle the feelings i had when i watched that episode...

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I only have one question...sometimes I get the pop up on giving stars, but sometimes when I just want to put stars, it won't let me do it at all. So is it a random process thing, or what? I'm using Safari, latest version.

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Ok, call me a little crazy... went back and gave a star rating to the final episode of every drama I could reasonably remember. (Did consult my drama database for an overall impression reminder on a few). Wish "Life is Beautiful" could have been on the list to give a star rating... I really loved that drama... even if it is one of the long episode length family dramas.

Also, couldn't help but give 5 stars to every episode of Personal Taste and Coffee Prince... I've watched those through lots of times now ... just to re-live the squee!

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Do you think it would have been better to rate the first episode instead? For those who are considering watching!?!?!

Maybe I'll go do it another day. The dramabeans site kept warning me to slow down with the posting!

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+1

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Hopefully this'll turn out to be more meaningful than DramaFever's ratings system in which nearly every drama has 4 stars, lol.

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Yay, I've been waiting for this, a post about the golden stars :-D Thanks for explaining, ladies!

I tried voting using an old Blackberry & the browser that comes with it. The pop up for voting comes out, but since my phone screen is too small it only showed half of the pop up and I couldn't scroll down to click on the stars. Oh, and I was on desktop view. I'm trying the mobile version right now...fingers crossed :-)

One other thing, so it was really you, girlfriday, on the Healer final episode recap! LOL!

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Aah, so the voting pop up won't come out if we're on mobile..

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I did get it on my phone. Thank god, because I read DB a lot on the phone. It could be blocked by the add blocker. Or maybe it's the browser?

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I thought it was a star rating for the recap but then I thought, if you wanted a rating why start now. So I left it. Glad it's for the episode only. Now I know what to do.

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Wow I didn't know we can rate the old dramas too! Off to rate.......... but there are tons of shows ? How to choose which one to rate first ? Although thanks for your help by mentioning Healer LOL

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javabeans : "Feel the wrath of my one starrrr!”

girlfriday: Ooooo, buuuuurrrn. Way to show that show! *eyeroll*

??? ?

I am too lazy to go to old drama recaps but I think this is a very cool added feature ? ??

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I was trying to put 5 stars on Twenty again but there was a delay or something and it ended up with 3 stars! Maybe its my fat finger syndrome?
Was voting using mobile phone, not sure whether i was in desktop view or mobile view, can only see part of the pop up

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I like the idea. I was wondering if at the end of the drama, all the stars are combined to give it a final total rating? There are a lot of shows I loved until the last four episodes, and then was bitterly, angrily disappointed. Ooo, how I would have wished to take any stars previously given away. This sort of problem makes me wish the stars were just at the last episode, so the ratings would reflect how we liked it overall. But then, I rely on you for that, dear JB and GF. I like your pure, uncompromised opinion on shows, and hope you won't be TOO swayed by what we in the peanut gallery think!

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It would be cool if we could give star ratings to dramas overall too :)

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Awesome! :-)

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I recently read the recap for Big's last episode and couldn't help laughing at the community's collective freak out about the ending. It was literally nothing but 400-500 angry, dissapointed comments. I don't think I've seen anything like it since!! I so wish Gong Yoo hadn't been in it because it has obviously turned him off kdramas *sigh*

The star rating is really awesome and came at the perfect time because I just started catching up on kdramas I've been wanting to watch or finish. Right now, it's I Remember You and Healer (trying to finally get past the 4th episode!)

So sorry to hear the like feature was buggy! Hope the star rating is here for good!

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I forgot to add that I have problems replying to comments on the site while i'm using Safari on my iPhone. I actually can't reply to comments at all but I'm not sure if I'm the only one having the problem.

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The reply issue using mobile platforms has been around for some time.

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Using desktop version fixes the issue for me. I use my phone often to comment in fact :)

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It never pops up whenever I post a comment. I noticed the stars at every episode's recap, but can't vote. I'm using browser in my tablet.

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Haha bad guys definitely and I think you miss out 49days and Marry Him if you dare, I really want my hours back watching those.

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Aww I've been seeing those stars at the top and tried looking for the stars option. Haha

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Off to give stars to my beloved KDramas, I Remember You, Healer, Oh My Ghostess and She was Pretty! ?

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@javabeand and girlfriday

There is a loophole in your rating mechanism. I understand that you have to post a comment to be allowed to rate. However, if the name and emailID fields are left blank, the comment is not posted (throws an error) but the rating box still pops up allowing you to rate it.
This can be a workaround for folks wanting to rate things without being forced to leave comments. Its up to the powers that be whether or not to close this loophole.

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