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Entertainer: Episode 8

Being a band is more than just about making music – you need trust, and dignity, and mutual respect. There are many ways to give that to each other, and Ddanddara Band is learning to form bonds that will carry them through anything if they manage to make it big. They’ll need those bonds, because they’re beginning to meet hardships and enemies already, so they’ll have to be willing to fight for each other if they want to make it.

 

EPISODE 8 RECAP

Though Seok-ho has fired her, Geu-rin stands in front of his desk with tears streaming down her face. When he finally lets her speak, she confesses that she was only thinking what was best for Ha-neul, and apologizes for letting the rest of the band down by trying to pressure Kyle into asking his old schoolmate for a favor.

Seok-ho says that’s not why she was fired — she’s simply not qualified. He doesn’t want to hear her promises to do better, and orders her out of his office.

Ha-neul follows her out and sits with her while she cries, attempting to aegyo her out of her tears. Seok-ho’s words that she’s not qualified really stung, but she asks if Ha-neul’s hungry since he keeps offering to buy her food.

He finally slings her up on his back for a piggyback ride, swearing not to let her down until she stops crying. He teases her not to wipe her snotty nose on his back, and seriously can’t these two get together? They’re so cute.

Ha-neul carries Geu-rin all over while she talks out her disappointment, and she says there’s one thing she’s good at — taking care of him. That makes him happy, and he teasingly offers to beat up Seok-ho for her, then he’ll get fired and they can open a street food stand.

Later, having picked up on some clues, Kyle asks Ha-neul if Geu-rin was adopted. Ha, Yeon-soo thought they were cousins. Kyle gets a little touchy when Ha-neul objects to the idea of Geu-rin being adopted… interesting, was Kyle adopted?

Anyway, Kyle and Yeon-soo guessed Ha-neul and Geu-rin aren’t really related by the way Ha-neul looks at her, and Ha-neul explains that his and Geu-rin’s fathers were friends. Her parents died when she was in middle school and she came to live with Ha-neul’s family. He asks them not to let her know that they know, and they swear to keep the secret

Kyle heads off to his part-time job, which he told everyone was playing music at a jazz cafe. But Ha-neul finds his business card on the floor of his room, and discovers the truth — he’s working as a designated driver.

Seok-ho, Min-joo, and Man-shik (again in the tiger suit, adorable) discuss the day’s events over drinks,and Min-joo says that Geu-rin’s idea really wasn’t bad. Seok-ho says that Geu-rin needs to learn to follow the rules, but he doesn’t want to tell her the rules — she should learn from her own mistakes. So much for being a great mentor.

The first thing Jae-hoon says to Ha-neul when he sees him next is that he heard he and Geu-rin aren’t real siblings, and Ha-neul grimaces at Kyle for not keeping the secret like he promised. Jae-hoon thinks it’s just awesome, their band even has a birth secret!

Seok-ho brings lunch, but Kyle whines about ddukbokki again, while Jae-hoon stuffs his face. He says his mom only cooks healthy food, and he always has to eat alone, so he loves eating with the band. He admits he never even had any friends to eat with, and Kyle says he and Ha-neul can be friends since they’re both outcasts.

Ha-neul retorts that Kyle doesn’t have friends either, but he swears he has tons of them in the States. But the guys realize he never gets calls or texts, and they’ve never heard him actually speak English… even little Chan-hee pipes up that Uncle Kyle has no friends because he’s so mean, hee.

Chan-hee saves a kimbap for Geu-rin, saying innocently that she hasn’t eaten in the last few days. That makes Seok-ho look worried, and Jae-hoon asks if he’s looking for a new manager.

Jinu is informed that he’ll be shooting a commercial with Ji-young, but he tries to refuse — she makes him sick. Joo-han says he doesn’t know what she’ll do if she doesn’t get her way, and Jinu asks why he’s still letting her call all the shots when “it” happened over a year ago.

Joo-han tells Jinu, for the first time, that Ji-young has the whole incident on video. She pretty much gets whatever she wants. Jinu asks who filmed it, but Joo-han doesn’t know. He shows Jinu the video, which does look pretty bad, and Joo-han wheedles for him to do the commercial.

Mr. Byun brings Ddanddara Band a van, though it’s kind of a piece of crap. Not only that, but they also have to make the payments on it, heh. Ha-neul pointedly asks who’s going to drive it, and Seok-ho hilariously acts like he didn’t hear anything.

Min-joo brings food to the boys’ house, and sees that Geu-rin’s been studying tirelessly about how to be a manager. She invites Geu-rin out for a girls’ night, and while she’s waiting for her to get ready, Chan-hee tries to play matchmaker between his daddy and Min-joo. Heh, Yeon-soo thinks she’s puuurty.

Seok-ho calls out Kyle and takes him to see a huge poster of his old school nemesis, Sang-won. He promises that someday, it will be Kyle’s face on a poster that big… but in the meantime, he needs to work on having a bigger heart.

Kyle hides behind Seok-ho when Sang-won himself walks out of the building, and they watch as he refuses a bigger hotel room and greets a group of fans warmly. He seems like a nice guy.

Seok-ho watches with Kyle, then says that if you fill up a garbage bag, you throw it out. So if Kyle wants to be jealous, he can be jealous, but then when he’s full up on jealousy, throw it out. They head home, and awww, Seok-ho says Kyle is more handsome than that guy anyway.

Geu-rin admits to Min-joo that she’s upset, but not at Seok-ho — she’s mad at herself. Min-joo tells her that when she met Seok-ho they fought all the time, because he demanded special treatment for his clients that cost her company a lot of money. But she’d been swayed when he called her gorgeous.

She says that Seok-ho is still awful most of the time, but Geu-rin smiles and says she just wants to learn from him. Min-joo warns her that he always looks out for himself first, using every sneaky tactic he can to get his way. But she says he does have one really wonderful quality — he never lets anyone insult his artists.

She takes Geu-rin to see Seok-ho, so she can tell him that she understands now why he fired her. She realizes that she betrayed Kyle by blaming him for letting the band down by not asking his old classmate to let them be in his concert. She begs for her job back, but Seok-ho asks if she plans to be Ddanddara Band’s manager, or just Ha-neul’s.

She promises enthusiastically to be the band’s manager, and not to stress Seok-ho out anymore. He’s annoyed, but he relents.

Ha-neul borrows a waitress’s phone to call the number on Kyle’s business card and order a designated driver. He requests Kyle, but learns that Kyle’s real name is Lee Bang-geul. He gives Kyle the cheesiest grin ever when he shows up, and cheerfully threatens to tell everyone Kyle’s secret.

Kyle sighs that driving is all he knows how to do besides pay guitar, and he wanted to help contribute to the house expenses. Ha-neul is so touched he’s embarrassed to tell Kyle the real reason he wanted to talk, but he braces himself anyway.

He reminds Kyle of the day he came all the way to Busan to see him and tell him he liked Ha-neul’s voice, saying that he was moved by the fact that a Juilliard-trained musician approved of him. He’d kept distance between them because the whole Juilliard thing intimidated him, but then Kyle came for him. Awww, warm fuzzies.

Jinu gives it some serious thought, then tells Joo-han that he thinks the incriminating video is doctored. He doesn’t remember much of that night, but he wouldn’t attack a girl that way right after being involved in his dating scandal. Joo-han has him watch the video again, and this time he sees something new — the camera pans down to a pair of sneakers that Jinu seems to recognize.

Ah, that would be because he gave someone those sneakers as a gift, and they’re limited edition so they’re very distinctive. It’s no surprise that the person he gave the shoes to was Joo-han. Shaken, Jinu chooses not to tip his hand yet, and tells Joo-han that he overreacted.

Geu-rin is reinstated as Ddanddara Band’s manager, but Kyle has something weighing on his mind. He takes Seok-ho to the hotel where Sang-won is staying, and Seok-ho guesses that he’s decided to let his resentment go. He encourages Kyle with a heartfelt, “You are so annoying,” (ha, I love their weird relationship) and sends him to talk to his old classmate.

It’s interesting that Sang-won looks just as nervous as Kyle — looks like the tension goes both ways. Kyle looks like he’s fighting tears before they even say hello, and Sang-won wordlessly pulls him into a hug.

Kyle tries to do the small talk thing but soon turns upset, and asks, out of the whole world, why did Sang-won have to come here to hold a concert? Kyle came all the way to Korea to get some distance, and he’s in a band now because he realized he enjoys this kind of music more than classical guitar.

Now he is crying, and Sang-won just listens patiently as Kyle goes on that he can’t even sleep, worrying that he ran away because he felt inferior. He says that he’s going crazy because of Sang-won, but Sang-won only says in response, “I missed you.”

He says that he can’t even go to their favorite burger place anymore because it makes him miss Kyle so much. This concert was supposed to be in England, but he asked that it be changed to Korea, just on the chance he might see Kyle. And it worked; Kyle found him.

Kyle calls him names, but finally starts to laugh wryly through his tears. Seok-ho wanders over to introduce himself, and he asks Sang-won about a guest appearance at his concert for Ddanddara Band. Ha, Kyle looks like he wants to crawl under the table.

Geu-rin is furious when she hears that she got fired for asking Kyle to talk to Sang-won, then Seok-ho turned around and did that exact thing. Seok-ho argues that Kyle made the decision on his own, and all he did was ask while they were there. And it worked!

Seok-ho treats Kyle and his managers to dinner at his parents’ restaurant, and HAHA, he offers to pay then stiffs his dad on the bill. In return he humbly asks Sang-won to take Kyle along on one of his interviews, and Sang-won is more than happy to agree.

The interview goes great, and Sang-won is so gracious, letting Kyle and Ddanddara Band get lots of the interviewer’s time. He even says that he’s worried about letting them play at his concert, because Kyle is so talented. Awww, bromance.

The two of them do a special duet at the concert, which leads into Ddanddara Band’s debut song. From the giant smiles all around, it looks like the conflict between Kyle and Sang-won is truly mended.

This time there are plenty of mentions of Ddanddara Band online the next day, in articles about Sang-won’s concert. Kyle is especially bubbly, hee.

Suddenly a woman walks into the band’s studio, and demands to know what Jae-hoon is doing here. Oh no, his mom found out. Jae-hoon wilts at the sound of her voice and trudges out without saying a word, all the bounce and energy gone right out of him.

It turns out that a friend of his mother’s saw him at Sang-won’s concert, and he says that she always pushed him to learn instruments, but they were all boring except the drums. His mother says that the only reason she made him learn instruments was to pad his school applications — he doesn’t have the time to play in a band.

Jae-hoon argues respectfully that his grades aren’t suffering, but his mother refuses to listen to reason. She takes him home, unaware that they had an audience for her little tirade… Mr. Byun saw the whole thing.

Seok-ho runs across an article stating that Jinu has been hospitalized, probably for stress. Joo-han visits him and sneers that he’s letting this whole thing affect him too much, loudly demanding to know why he ran out in the middle of a live show. Jinu just shuts down and refuses to talk.

He gets a text from Seok-ho saying simply Take care of yourself, and lies in his hospital bed, crying.

Seok-ho doesn’t have time to worry about Jinu, because he’s called in for questioning regarding Jackson’s artificial ratings. He remembers promising his hacker friend that he wouldn’t drag him into this if he were ever caught, and knows he’s on his own.

Min-joo reminds him that a few others were questioned for this very thing, but it’s difficult to get proof and they were acquitted. But Seok-ho knows exactly why he’s being targeted now: CEO Lee. He’s willing to get KTOP in trouble if it means getting rid of Seok-ho permanently.

Seok-ho hasn’t even heard about Jae-hoon’s mom dragging him home, and Geu-rin worries about how to tell him and add to his stress. She stops him outside the studio and manages to make him smile with a terrible joke, and they don’t notice Ha-neul watching them jealously.

Once Seok-ho is smiling, Geu-rin gives him the news about Jae-hoon, and he runs back to the Mango office to look for Jae-hoon’s address. Mr. Byun tells him that Jae-hoon’s mom is scary, and Seok-ho explains to Min-joo that he never got a chance to talk to her because Jae-hoon kept putting him off.

That night, Ha-neul packs a bag and tells Geu-rin that he’s running away, because she keeps smiling at some other guy. She’s completely oblivious, so Ha-neul gets right up in her personal space, but all he does is gently thumb the toothpaste from the corner of her mouth. Then he wipes it on her shirt, hee.

He smiles and says he’s just going to Busan to give a copy of Ddanddara band’s album to the juvenile hall director. He declines Geu-rin’s offer to join him, and promises to be back in time for practice tomorrow.

Seok-ho nervously lurks outside Jae-hoon’s house, unable to reach him by phone. He wonders how he can rescue the princess in the castle.

Now that Jinu knows it’s Joo-han who really recorded him with Ji-young, he goes down to Busan to check out the house where it happened for clues. He remembers flashes of that night, and recalls how Ji-young seemed to know there was someone else in the house.

He notices a large cabinet in the room and moves to inspect it, but he startles when he hears a voice: “We meet again.” He whirls around, and in the room with him is Ha-neul.

COMMENTS

I think that for me, what’s redeeming this show from its rough start is the thread of life-lessons weaving through the story itself, as the characters learn about life and reality in the music industry. This episode was heavily about Geu-rin learning how to be a good manager, and how she needs to think of not just Ha-neul, but the band as a whole. She can’t just support Ha-neul at the exclusion of the other boys, and by actually attempting to pressure Kyle into doing something he was uncomfortable with by saying it would be beneficial to Ha-neul, she was showing that she was actually willing to hurt one band member if it helped her friend. That’s not okay on so many levels, but it’s particularly unacceptable for a manager, and Seok-ho was one hundred percent right to fire her for it.

Ddanddara Band has enough against them — a convicted felon lead singer, a bass player who’s a single father, Seok-ho as their agent — that they will need to stick together that much more if they are going to succeed in the cutthroat musical industry. They can’t just play well together, they must truly bond and be willing to face the world together, as one unit, and never let a member fall. At that point in time, if Kyle had been made to approach his old schoolmate before he was ready on his own, it would have damaged his trust in the rest of the members even if it was a good promotion idea. They don’t have the wiggle room for anyone to pull a stunt like Geu-rin tried to pull, even if she was innocently well-intentioned. They can’t afford to let a member lose his sense of security, or the whole thing could come down like a house of cards before it even starts.

To that end, I loved seeing Ha-neul and Kyle grow a little closer in this episode, and how Ha-neul admitted to being intimidated by Kyle and his musical education. Kyle has been so gruff and hard to like (he’s adorable, but I wouldn’t want to live with him), but now that we’ve seen his love/hate relationship with Sang-won, his prickly personality makes a lot more sense. The last time he got close to someone it backfired on him, and he let his jealousy get the better of him, so to let his guard down and actually respect and admire Ha-neul has got to be difficult for him. But it’s good that he’s trying, and I loved how Ha-neul just let him in with open arms the moment he saw a crack in that armor. They were both able to admit that they admire the other’s talent, which is a really great start.

And is it just me, or is anyone else starting to get really worried about Jae-hoon? His mother is so controlling, it’s amazing he’s been able to get out of her sight long enough to practice and perform. It was only a matter of time before he was discovered, and I’m terrified that his mother is going to crack down on him so hard that he does something desperate. He seems to live in his own imagination a lot — he seems to relate to life is through movies and dramas and music, so everything seems larger-than-life to him. I’m scared he’ll do something overly dramatic, and hurt himself in the process.

But I’m even more worried about Jinu… if anyone in this show needs saving, it’s him. He’s on the verge of disaster, and we don’t even really need to know much about his past to know that he desperately needs a hero. He can’t get out on his own, he’s only a kid, and he’s already acting out in dangerous ways. I would love to see Seok-ho come to his rescue and get him out of KTOP, and Joo-han’s clutches, before something tragic happens. This could even be Seok-ho’s chance to redeem himself for Ha-neul’s brother’s death — I have a sick feeling that he somehow got involved in KTOP, probably pressured there by Seok-ho, which is why Seok-ho is so adamantly against anyone pressuring his clients. I’m guessing that Sung-hyun was in an accident, or even pushed to kill himself by KTOP’s greedy manipulations, and that Seok-ho blames himself because he got Sung-hyun involved with KTOP in the first place (it would also explain why Seok-ho took that songwriter’s suicide so hard). Saving Jinu could be Seok-ho’s redemption, and a way to save himself in the process.

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I enjoy this drama! I love how everyone is a part of this band in some way, but each have their own issues they need to overcome. I like that it focuses on many characters, and not one or two who get all the screen time.

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How is it right to fire Geu Rin for something that Seok Ho then turned around and did (with more finesse, but he has got almost two decades of experience on her)? Correct her, yes. Chew her out, sure. But this is Seok Ho's failure in mentoring and for him to take on a total rookie manager and then give her minimal training is negligent and his own damn fault.

I'm glad the story is accelerating on the Jinu/Ha Neul front, hopefully we'll get more into the intrigue side of things. I really like Seok Ho's individual interactions with the boys (he's especially good at showing the traits that must have made him a fantastic manager), but the Geu Rin stuff isn't working for me. And this firing thing just made me actively dislike Seok Ho, because while he's a great talent rep, he appears to be a crappy boss.

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@Miranda

To answer your question. I thought the answer was obvious, and Lollypip also touched on it in her recap. Geu Rin was pressuring Kyle to do something he was clearly uncomfortable doing. Her arguments that it would help Ha Neul at Kyle's expense was all kinds of wrong, if I were her manager, I would fire her for it too.

Seok ho didn't coax Kyle into seeing his old classmate. He just told Kyle to release the anger and jealousy he's feeling inside and let it go. That was for Kyle's own benefit even if he never went back to see his old friend. The person who convinced Kyle to go, ironically, was Ha Neul. His confession to Kyle was the impetus Kyle needed to come to terms with his past.

I am guessing that the kpop world does a lot of underhand things to their trainees making them do a lot of things that they are uncomfortable with because of money. Seek ho needed to send a strong message to Geurin that it's not an acceptable practice. Especially when she'd been warned to let it go, but went behind everyone's back to continue pressuring Kyle.

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She'd been "warned to let it go" through one sentence from Seok Ho? Not even a sentence to her, but a non-instructional comment to the entire group at large before he left the office? That's what's not working for me: Seok Ho and Geu Rin should be on the same page, and it's not necessarily the same page as the band members. But he's giving her the same information as the band (or less), then expecting her to magically figure out what his intentions are, and then screaming at her and firing her when she's doing the best she can with the things she knows.

If you think Seok Ho's coaxing of Kyle wasn't part of a long-term plan to get on that stage, then we clearly have very different ideas of how Seok Ho operates. He had the exact goal Geu Rin thought he did, he's just a lot more experienced in making it seem like it's not his idea. The speed with which he swooped over to their table in the cafe to push the connection - that's why he's there, not to mend Kyle's bruised ego, though he managed to tick both boxes at the same time.

Sending a strong message would've been actually talking to her about the band-manager relationship, like Min Joo does. Instead all Geu Rin has to go on is evidence that Seok Ho will go down on his knees to a broadcaster to get the boys on a stage - in her mind, wheedling Kyle is surely the least she can do to try and help that progression.

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I agree that Seok ho may not be the best verbal communicator and he clearly needs help in mentoring. But there is something to be said for picking up non verbal cues or the subcontext of what happens by watching how the individuals in a situation react. I believe that a Manager in showbiz needs to become an expert in picking up those non verbal cues and act accordingly. So yes, Seok ho didn't need to issue her a verbal warning to back off when she clearly saw how upset Kyle was, and Ha Neil told Geurin in his presence to drop the matter.

I also agree that Seok ho was more than ready to capitalize on the situation if Kyle agreed to see his old friend again. That's quite obvious. The difference is, he wouldn't have twisted Kyle's arms to get what he wanted. I believe he would have let it drop if Kyle was still against it. I think it essentially comes down to the differences between persuasion and force.

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And persuasion's the way to go, absolutely - but as you say, a manager needs to become an expert in picking up cues. It's the "becoming" part that is lacking - Geu Rin's gotten no guidance from Seok Ho on that front. He's holding her to standards he's built up over 15+ years without ever bothering to instruct her.

Min Joo,on the other hand, IS a good mentor. I just hate the idea that Seok Ho did the right thing all-round. He might have done the right thing for his band members (though that's debatable, given there's no back-up manager), but he did not do right by his employee Geu Rin.

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If I was Geu Rim, I will use persuasion on Kyle too. But I will do it not because of one person but for the whole group. When Geu Rim mentioned Ha Neul's name, I was even angrier than Seok Ho. I was like, "Aren't you the band's manager?" She treated them like her child but the apple in her eyes will always be Ha Neul. It is a huge no no.

Seok Ho mentoring method is okay for me. I think he wanted Geu Rim to experience it so that she can be better. It seemed rough but the entertainment world is rough. He is much nicer than my mentor *sigh*.

And instead of talking about Seok Ho vs Geu Rim, can we talk about the chemistry between Kyle and Seok Ho or Kyle and Sang Won (the guitarist friend). It was freaking adorable.

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Geu rin is young BUT she asked to be the manager of the BAND not Ha Neul's manager.
Seok Ho is the BOSS of everyone, including her. He clearly said that they dropped the idea for Kyle' sake, because Kyle was clearly unhappy (even worse) by it.

What kind of school does Geu Rin need to attend to respect Kyle's feelings?? Her asking Kyle was unprofessional and UNKIND.

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But that's not what happened. Kyle said he's always in second place and can't ask the guitarist, then leaves. Seok Ho says "let's forget about this then, think of another method" and Geu Rin says she'll try him again, and HA NEUL interrupts her to say no - not Seok Ho. Seok Ho says one sentence. That's it.

When Kyle comes back, Geu Rin actually does have an alternate option for him: she says that if he can't ask, she can be the one to do the asking. She actually is providing an alternative that she thinks might solve the problem and save Kyle's pride. That's not unkindness. Everyone's seeing it through the filter of Geu Rin only caring for Ha Neul, but she's not wrong in keeping in mind that they've got one hell of a hurdle to clear with Ha Neul's conviction that's going to come to light.

Being a boss means setting reasonable expectations. People who fire their employees like Seok Ho did aren't bosses, they're tyrants.

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Agree! It's interesting that what seems like obvious manipulation to me is viewed as understanding and the "right way" to go about the situation by others. Geu-rin didn't handle it correctly; but, she also wasn't privy to the same information that Seok-ho had. I'm inclined to think that while Ha-neul would still have been her primary concern, she wouldn't have pushed it the same way had she known.

He went off and fired her to make himself look like the hero protector. Seok Ho won't allow anyone to make "his" artist feel bad, even the person that kept them together, made sure they ate, and kept a roof over their heads for the year he abandoned them. If we assume that he knew she was going to come back, then he was manipulating her as well. Now rather than him actually having to directly teach her and provide guidance, she (and anyone who believed this was okay) will expect that she should just pick everything up by watching and reading the situation. When she messes up, it'll be her fault--to her, the band, and apparently, the viewing public well.

Also. Seok-ho asked Geu-rin if she was ready to be the manager of the entire band and not just Ha-neul, but what about himself? Are we forgetting that Seok-ho has the information that could clear Ha-neul's record? He's a convicted sex offender. That's a horrible crime to have on your record. And , yet, Seok-ho has decided that he's going to hold on to obvious evidence that Ha-neul is innocent for Jinnu's sake. Seok-ho will defend them from scary Geu-rin and her crazy ideas to give them a chance to escape KTop's blacklisting. But when given the opportunity to actually clear a horrid blemish off one of their records, he can't do that.

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"He went off and fired her to make himself look like the hero protector."

This is exactly what's making me so angry; it's a power-play that's transparent and ego-driven. This is exactly why Seok Ho found all of his bridges burnt when KTOP dropped him, he treats anyone "under" him like crap unless they're his artists.

And if that was the theme with this week, that Seok Ho is improving as a person but still has a long way to go as a boss, then that I can roll with. But instead we're getting this audience validation that it's totally okay to fire a rookie manager when she takes initiative. The man's screaming and frothing at the mouth, it's not okay. This could be a cultural thing, I don't know, but the people I work with who manage like Seok Ho did are not viewed favorably. We restrict them as much as possible in relationship-based activities and in cases where they DO have to be present, we basically place a similarly-powerful minder with them who can smack them if they get out of line. Min Joo's too soft on Seok Ho to fill that role effectively, but at least she's doing the job when it comes to Geu Rin.

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thank you, thank you and thank you. i agree she went about it the wrong way but to fire her was way to much. and than he turned around and did the same thing! one could argue that seok ho did all that so he could look cool and come off as the big strong protector. so much so he was willingly to hurt and fire someone he knows damn well loves this band and members. i love seok ho but i didn't agree with this at all.

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Out of curiosity, did anyone read Kyle's scene with his friend as more than just bromance?

Also, I adore this drama-- thanks for the recap!!

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Yeah, I thought we might get romance between the two. I was definitely getting those vibes.

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Not sure if it was the translations or bad acting but the constant i missed you refrain had me wondering if it was a jilted love affair.

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Me too.

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Yes!! I know I did. I mean, it seemed like there was something more there... Idk. lol

And is there anyone out there who still doubts that Geu Rin and Ha Neul are a MUCH better pairing after this episode? I mean... I almost melted when he wiped that damn toothpaste from her mouth!

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Yep

Ha Neul and Geurin have sparkling chemistry.

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Yep. I'm actually trying to find comments about that. If i didn't find yours, my comment would've totally said, "They used to date, right?" ?

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Concur. Lost in translation perhaps? Or is this just as far as broadcast TV can go in a less open culture? I genuinely have no idea since I'm just a gringo. Anyone?

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Hahaha yeah, I saw it too.
I was second guessing even when Seok Ho took Kyle to see his friend's giant banner. There's something about the words he's using....
And it happened again at the hotel cafe scene. And interview. And of course at the concert.

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Only having watched a million kdramas stopped me from going there because yes, that were som intense emotions. They really didn't come off as just friends.

Realistically, I really thought they were going to turn out to be adopted brothers and that's why the love/resentment ran so deep.

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Yes! Definitely, especially when they talked about that cafe they used to go and the friends stopped frequenting when Kyle left... because he missed him and it hurt????

Maybe the way they looked at each other was just the wrong kind of energy from the actors, BUT as it was... it looked like romantic longing.

Hmmmmm...

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My first thought, when we learned Kyle's real name, was that they were brothers. Maybe adopted, after his reaction to the adoption discussion later.

But then when they met, I thought "whoa - were they boyfriends?" Because I've never seen my brothers hug or look at each other like that...

I liked the scenes with them performing but there was a small, little voice in my head that wondered if Seo Kang-joon would end up joining the band and then every episode we'd get a scene or two of him sitting by himself playing the guitar...

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I also had the adopted brothers thought, even though the vibe really wasn't brotherly...

Also, I loooved Inho and Seo Kang Joon in citt but I can't help finding all these comments hilarious. I always end up snorting reading them.

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Yup! That was so weird ... It felt like Kyle was soe kang joon's long lost love.... It was way cheesy for friendship b\w guys

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Thought they were going to kiss but the they didn't. So disappointed because the whole scene screamed for it. The band also needs someone gay. But I guess too much for kdrama.

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I also thought that Kyle would turn out to be gay, I still think that him and Sang-Won was more then just friends. Their definitely ex-lovers.

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I totally thought the same thing! I wonder if there is going to be something more, but the show probably won't go there. I don't think we'll see more of Sang Won after this....

I have seen a few pictures of Seo Kang Joon, but I haven't seen videos of him before. He is very handsome, dang. I couldn't tell if he was wearing contacts or not. LOL

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Yes, I thought that scene played out like ex lovers. Interesting contrast to earlier when Seok Ho linked arms with Kyle to see that big banner of Lee Sang Woo and Kyle said it was weird for two guys to link arms

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I did. There is a whole, and very interesting, subtext, to what went on during that meeting. How many times were the words, "I missed you" stated? I felt some tension that didn't seem like jealousy there, but felt more like heartache.

Also, with the wink in the interview and the fact that neither Sang Won nor Kyle could keep there eyes off of each other during the concert made me think this relationship is more than bromance.

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*their*

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I'd already been hoping for more than bromance since the preview of their hotel conversation a few episodes back... I'm disappointed, though not surprised, that they didn't go that far. And Sang Won's character probably won't be back again, so unless Kyle will just suddenly confess to being gay to one of the other characters, they probably won't go there *sigh* :( They had mad chemistry though and their dialogue/behavior so pointed towards them being ex-lovers. Even Kyle's "don't fall for me" comment to Ha Neul at the café made me think twice, but that might just be me seeing signs everywhere due to already thinking that he might be gay. The KyWon ship will probably inspire lots of fanfic lol.

LOL at @Avenus' "The band also needs someone gay." That's what I thought too, since the band pretty much have all the huge secrets that can ruin a Kpop idol's career covered, the only thing missing is someone gay lol.
It would also be a great opportunity to take up the issues surrounding homosexuality and celebrity status in S. Korea. There's been some really sad incidents and the prejudices need to be adressed, but I guess they're just not ready for it yet.

It's the second time this drama haven't taken up an issue that I'd hoped they would (the other being handsyncing on live music shows), but I think the fact that they made someone a single dad who was never married to the mother is enough to redeem it. Shouldn't ask too much of one little kdrama from a major channel :)

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It was an awesome fan service. I noticed a lot of Asian (other than Korea) movie and drama are inserting 'bromance' nowadays.

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Glad you said it, somebody please save Jinu.

Also I know it's a pipe dream but I really like Min Joo/Seuk Ho, Geurin/HaNeul as our main couples. Why does Hye-Ri seem to have more chemistry with her brother than prospective lover?

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Hehehe I love this show! First of all, I'm just so glad the tiger PJs made a second appearance.

Second of all, love lines. I like how subtle it's turned (as opposed to the wildly-not-subtle in the first few episodes...). You can tell Geu-rin likes Seok-ho (although at this point it feels like a lot of mentor-respect, too) and Min-joo cares for Seok-ho deeply; Ha-neul likes Geu-rin; Seok-ho is fascinated by Geu-rin and doesn't quite understand why... etc. etc. But more than anything, I love that they all place the other person first in their feelings. Geu-rin is never thinking of herself over Ha-neul or Seok-ho, Min-joo drives Geu-rin to Seok-ho when she doesn't totally want to, because it will help them both. Ha-neul is upset that Geu-rin is getting closer to another guy, but he's not taking his frustrations out on her. They love each other as people first, then as the object as their affection. So nice. And Yeon-soo!! I suddenly want to see that crush develop more. He's so cute.

And Lollypip, I agree about Jinu. My gosh, it scared me when the scene first switched to him sitting in the empty practice room. He looked so... soulless. The music he loves has become a hell because there's nobody there to stand by him anymore. I really really really hope Ha-neul decides to be nice in the next episode and not freak out. Please be friends, not enemies!! I think you'd make a great team!

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I think I would lose any faith in Haneul as a character if he tried to befriend Jinu. For god's sake, this is the guy who, maybe framed, whatever, but he's sitting on evidence and he's clearly part of a major plot by what's looking like two people to basically ruin Haneul's life. At best, maybe they can work together to expose the whole thing, but there shouldn't be anything but begrudging cooperation, imo.

Being accused of sexual assault is basically a life ending thing that could destroy a person. I just don't see how anyone comes back and forgives someone for letting him take the fall in his place just so he can keep making records (unless Show decides that Jinu's mom/sister/father/brother etc. has CANCER OMG blah blah, you get my point).

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Yeah, that makes sense. To clarify, I'm definitely not saying to just accept him right off the bat (ha, the text is proof that won't happen, I think). But I guess I just see Jinu as a major victim in this whole thing too, and it's human nature to want to protect yourself--not just for the music, but as a human being. --It's my understanding right now that we don't really know if there was any assault that night on anybody's part (I agree w/ Lollypip's assessment of the situation in ep. 5).

That doesn't make what Jinu did (letting Ha-neul take the fall) right, and I think he needs to make amends--but I want Ha-neul to recognize that Jinu isn't really the one he needs to blame for this whole debacle. I want them to end up working together against KTOP, not adding another enemy to their list. And I really want to see them try and play in a band together, just to juxtapose their opinions of music.

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Nah. I'm Kestrel on this one. Jinu is just as guilty as KTop in this one. It's not like he found out that Ha-neul didn't assault the girl. He made an active decision to allow someone else to take the fall for a very serious crime. At this point, he's just as guilty in destroying Ha-neul's life as KTop.

He's sitting around looking sad, soulless, and miserable because of his own situation. It seems like self-pity: stuck at KTop, blackmailed; if what he thought was the truth came out, his life would be destroyed. Even if there's some guilt about not coming forward, that's more about feeling bad for being a coward than feeling bad for destroying another person's life. All of which makes him a decidedly less sympathetic character for me. And one that, in anything remotely resemembling reality, Ha-neul could never have anything more than a detached, indifferent awareness of. And even that would seem reasonable only after Ha-neul is exonerated.

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Okay... since I wanna be true to my thoughts, instead of bromance, Ill pretend those two handsome guitarists had a romance!
That aside, I thought Seokho firing Geurin in that over the top manner was just meant to be last eps. shocking cliffhanger and was uncalled for.
Im so worried about Jinu... he is -or was?- on medication and he looks more and more nervous and depressed with every scene. Id like it to be Haneul the one saving Jinu... no one else would understand his struggle better than HN and he could use some friends... at least HN had GR during his ordeal but JN has no one by his side.
JH's mom unnerve me... its beyond me how some parents cant let their children be... He seems like such a innocent soul that idk what could be the consequences of taking what truly makes him happy away from him.

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Did anyone notice in Jinu's flashback that the person hiding in the cabinet filming on the phone was the younger brother of Ji-Young?

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Yes! So maybe he has a video that actually shows the whole thing - that Jinu was completely incapacitated and Ji-young and Joo-han were the culprits.

Except what I can't quite figure out is, did Ji-young plan the whole thing, using her brother to record the scene while Joo-han just happened to see it and made his own recording? Or did Joo-han plan the incident to keep Jinu with KTOP, promising Ji-young a career in exchange, and she had her brother there as back-up?

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OH SNAP YOU ARE SO RIGHT! NO WONDER THE KID WAS BEING WEIRD! THE PLOT THICKENS!!

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No, I don't want Hanuel to forgive Jinu just yet. But I do hope he eventually gets to that point. And that it happens when Jinu comes out to actually say the truth. He took alcohol with his meds and doesn't know what happened except that he framed an innocent boy for something he was the one that was being accused of. I want him to redeem himself. Then Hanuel to realize that Ji Young framed them both, and Seok Ho and the gang to rescue both boys. Then Jackson can join Mango and the two bands can have some friendly competition.

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Forgive--as in let go of resentment? Okay.

Forgive--as in like it never happened in the first place? Jin-nu would have to step forward now, with everything on the line, to clear Ha-neul's name. That's not going to happen.

Jin-nu has thus far been willing to allow someone else to take the fall for what he believes to be a crime he committed. Even if he's s a victim himself, Jinu's still not innocent in terms of what's happened to Ha-neul thus far.

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I think this drama is getting better with every episode. I feel emotionally attached to it now, which I couldn't say two or three weeks ago.

I thought I was the only one who interpreted the scene between Kyle and Sungwan this way. I mean, I am a guy and I never once said to my male friend that I missed him, not in not-jokingly way of course.

Also, where do I sign petition? I'm going to keep on repeating that the double pairings with Minjoo-Seokho and Haneul-Geurin must happen as long as the writers finally make them happen. That scene of M-S first meeting and that toothpaste scene, could anyone really have any doubts left that it's the way it should be?

I feel like writers are playing safe as of now. They leave the doors open for any of these lovelines to happen, so I guess they'll just wait and see which one wins over the viewers hearts. I feel like majority wants it the way I want, but I might be wrong.

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I don't know if I'm really so biased (cause of Minhyuk) or just really easy to please, but I'm starting to fall in love with this drama more and more. I mean, sure there's still some elements missing but the way they give cliffhangers? Damn! It really hooks you. Like every wednesday and thursday, I stay up all night (I'm from the Phil!) just to watch the latest episode. And heck, idc if it's still raw, I NEED TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS NEXT!!!

I dunno. I think Geu Rin and Suk Ho are still the best pair? I mean look at them. GR's the kind of person who's always taking care of other people (specially HN).. then there's SH who cares for his clients like his own child. They need someone to look out for them as well, and I guess the best person to look out for them is each other. SH's care (buying clothes for GR, when he gave her a candy apple, when he pats her hair) and how GR makes SH intrigued and a bit confused with her words…

AWW JINU. I didn’t really like him in the first few episodes… but heck, this boy is starting to grow on me. That scene at the hospital when he read SH’s message and he cried… LOL I GOT A BIT TEARY EYED TOO. (Damn it Jinu!!) And oh my gosh, that scene where he was driving… For a second, I was scared!! I thought he was going to do something that would hurt him (like hitting another car/tree or something).. Jinu really needs a hero right now, and I think this realization that he has no one to trust in KTOP is a good wake up call. I wish SH and HN would help him… and it’d be really nice if he’d join Mango later on and then he and HN will have this cute competition for SH’s affection LOL XD AND IS IT JUST ME OR IS JINU GETTING MORE HANDSOME WITH EACH EPISODE????????????? <3 <3 <3 The last scene made me confused between Minhyuk and Hyoseop ♥ MY HEARTUUUUUU <3 <3 <3 <3

I really love Entertainer and I hope more people would give it a chance ♥

oh and again!! JINU <3 <3 ♥♥♥ KKKKKKKKKKK
Oh and again

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I could see the pairing going either way, but at this point I think it is actually leaning more towards GR X SH. I feel fairly safe saying their my ship, too... but it breaks my heart because Ha-neul! I just don't know anymore.

Aaargh this drama was not supposed to incite a shipping war inside myself!! My heart! Everyone else's hearts! Let's please all be friends no matter who we ship!

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i agree ! i love SH x GR pairing.. but in a same time my heart melting every times i see HN x GR scenes.. did i watching answer me entertainer now ?? looks like werternim want us to guess who will GR date at the end..

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Thanks for the recap, LollyPip. =)

I like how Seokho cares for the kids and willing to go the extra mile. Just sucks that his past acts have been catching up to him.

Seo Kang Joon cameo!! ^^ Really glad the two friends patched things up.

Jinu looks so lonely and helpless. Glad he played it smart and not let on that he knows Joohan filmed it and he's going to Busan to verify.

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"Jaehoon thinks its just awesome that their band even has a birth secret"
? Looks like Jaehoon is living a drama in this drama.
Can I please hope that jinu and haneul will b on d same side inthe upcoming episodes because I find them both wronged by evil CEO Lee or his minion.

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Love this week epis! !!
I have to say i'm loving SH and Geurin interactions. but i'll be fine if SH ends with min joo. But ha neul and geu rin is a big no for me. I mean they grew up like siblings. they're cute together but as brother and sister! I know ha neul likes geurin but geurin only looks him like her brother, she almost seems his mom! I hope show don't take that way
I'm hoping SH clears jinu and ha neul soon. And yes jinu is looking more handsome every episode!
Still. .. no one beats ji sung in my eyes

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I do like the GR pairing with HN their chemistry seems to flow nicely. Plus I can't imagine Ji Sung kissing Hyeri in any circumstance. I like MJ and SD together as well.

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Does no one also think it's weird that it seems like Haneul like Geurin??!?? Like they are siblings. lol it's just a bit weird to me even if they aren't blood related

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