Based on what I read before, Manhole is already in top 5 drama with lowest rating from year 2000 and the lowest of this year between the 3 main broadcasters.

Not only this year. It's the lowest-rated broadcast drama in a regular time slot SINCE 2000. The previous record holder was Noh Hee-kyung's Foolish Love (1.8%) on KBS2 but that drama went up against Heo Jun and not Manhole's lightweight competitors.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/koreanvariety/comments/6wgql5/201708210827_monsun_variety_show_ratings_week_34/?st=j7537mrz&sh=d3a705d1

Well, the quality of dramas these days is pretty bad compared to the early 2000s and even 5 years ago. I can't believe we are calling 6-7% ratings good.

Manhole started off way too manic and all over the place. I had a headache halfway in and Tylenol and a re-start didn't help. It's just too noisy and unfocused.

for someone with a such a huge scandal before, the ratings say otherwise

It's only the first episode and I'm sure it will go up, but My Golden Life is the first in KBS2's weekend drama slot to get a rating lower than 20% in two years (compare to the lowest ratings of Five Kids, Laurel Tree Tailors and Father is Strange: 21.2%, 22.2%, 21.4%).

My 2 cents:

Mon-Tues dramas - I am watching School 2017 and The King Loves.

While I love these two shows especially School, I can see why their numbers are low. School genre(not the franchise) don't usually get high ratings. School 2013 would be an exception and that's probably what launched Lee Jong Seok and Kim Woo Bin's careers. In this one, almost the entire cast including the main teacher are rookies.

The King Loves is not the typical kind of saeguk Korean loves. It's supposed to be youth saeguk or something. Unlike Ruler which had beloved child actors, I guess Korean viewers don't have the same reaction towards the cast.

I almost wanted to start Falsify but never got round to it when I read the mixed reviews. It was unlike Defendant which started with a blast and hooked the viewers from word go. If it had, it might get better ratings.

I am watching nothing on Wed-Thurs slot although I did try Reunited Worlds and Criminal Minds.

I really liked Reunited Worlds in the beginning but it felt strangely off in subsequent weeks and I dropped it. I think the writing is the problem but mostly, it doesn't strike me as the type of drama which would hook Korean viewers.

There are worse shows than Criminal Minds but I think being Criminally Boring is what makes this mire in 2% ratings. I was hoping for a good crime drama from tvN but it's just a lot of violence, gore and dour face people.

Romantic Doctor Teacher Kim's highest ratings was around 27%. I think medical and legal dramas haven't changed much and it appeals to the general viewers.

Sageuks and rom.coms lately are mostly geared towards young people.
It would be great if there were more rom.coms like "Kim Samsoon" or a sageuk with romance/politics like "Princess Man" etc.

I also just remembered that this is the male lead's army comeback drama, which makes me even sadder for him that the ratings are so bad. :( :( :(

was b'ful mind that good? i dropped it after ep 6.. was bored to hell..

and like me i wonder if there were people who did not enjoy it.. is it wrong to say KBS did wrong in axing a non profitable venture?

I'm with you as I love the chaebols more than the main couple actually. I felt awkward with the main couple somehow and I don't even know why. I usually skip their scene

Go Kyung Pyo did an amazing job in Chicago because that role asked him to put all his acting ability to the front, while Strongest Deliveryman is more like a melo rom-com (is it still considered to be rom-com if I don't find the scene funny?) and an easier genre than Chicago

I'm late to the party but OH MY GOD, I absolutely love Oh Jin-gyu & Lee Ji-yoon!! The reason I started watching the drama was because of Oh Jin-gyu, and I literally finished 8 episodes in one day. Lee Ji-yoon strikes me as an annoying character at first, since she kept on assuming things about Kang-soo feelings towards her but I definitely love her scene together with Oh Jin-gyu.

Also, KBS isn't doing so well right now, is it? I haven't seen Manhole, so I don't know whether or not the show fully deserves it's abysmal numbers, but School 2017 certainly doesn't.

I wouldn't say no one cares about Save Me/Rescue Me. The ratings have been steadily climbing slowly/modestly each week and those numbers aren't too bad for a cable channel especially given the content/genre of the show. I wouldn't be surprised if they eventually crack into the 4% area. Although it's not in the top 10 at DramaFever, it seems to be climbing there as well--it was at #13 last week. Some people on DB seem to like the show as well.

I am still watching Save Me, and it is the only K-drama I am watching now. Dropped Reunited Worlds last week, cannot stand the minor bits and pieces about the many side stories, feel like a weekend family drama... it is draggy and slow... sigh....

I don't think it has an issue with time-traveling plot, but maybe in the earlier epi (at least until the epi I watched), the story was kinda give you headache and a bit chaotic. But the rating was already too low from the beginning, so I guess it still has to do with casts. Neither Jaejoong nor Uee are rating magnets as well, and even though they are pretty well known, their fans might mostly watching the drama online.

Look at Live Up To Your Name. It is a time travel drama and it's ratings have been going up in a cable channel. It all comes down to the story and lack of chemistry. I agree with Sera that the story was chaotic and the lead characters are not exactly likeable. I hated it in the beginning and said I wouldn't watch it, but I like Jaejoong so I've stuck with it. But to be totally honest I have to force myself to watch it. As a matter of fact I haven't watched this week's Thursday episode and I don't think I will. Maybe I've reached my stopping point?

the drama is bad, the story is bad, the actors are bad. all is bad, that's the reason.

I am down to this 1 issue. In this drama, Jaejoong is super enthusiastic, where Uee is super walking dead.
I love them both sadly

Where do you watch AoY2? I have no plans to have Netflix subscription ahaha

Oops. Reply meant for tiramisu's comment.

Yes, I almost forget that JYJ is the King of Japan, their most hardcore strongest loyalist fans. It does make sense hope it will sell really well in Japan