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The Guest: Episode 11

We finally learn the true origin of Park Il-do and his connections to the earthly world. The demon spirit is still determined to complete what he started twenty years ago, but this time the trio are adults who are capable of fighting against him. But will it be enough? Or will evil continue to triumph?

 
EPISODE 11 RECAP

Hwa-pyung’s possessed father tries to attack him, but Hwa-pyung ducks out of the way. He’s shocked that his father is possessed, and Geun-ho — in his demon voice — blames Hwa-pyung for killing his mother and his wife. Geun-ho says that Hwa-pyung should have died back then, and tries to hit him with the fire extinguisher that, moments ago, he used to kill the landlord.

The two men fight and they crash out of Geun-ho’s small rented room into the hallway. In a move eerily reminiscent of the way he tried to kill Hwa-pyung twenty years ago, Geun-ho starts to strangle his son. The younger man manages to fight off his father, who’s momentarily distracted by a neighbor who pokes his head into the hallway to see what the ruckus is about.

Apparently the threat of an audience is enough to deter Geun-ho, and he runs out of the inn. Hwa-pyung tries to follow, but his father has supernatural strength and speed, and Hwa-pyung loses him in the alleyways.

Hwa-pyung returns to the inn and sees the landlord on the floor. He checks to make sure the man is okay, but the man is dead. The other curious tenants see Hwa-pyung and assume he’s the one who killed the landlord. Realizing that this isn’t looking good for him, Hwa-pyung runs away.

Kil-young’s among the police dispatched to the inn. The tenants tell Detective Go their version of the story, and Detective Go is shocked to realize that once again Hwa-pyung is involved in yet another of their cases. Kil-young’s boss orders them to make an emergency arrest, since Hwa-pyung is their primary suspect.

Kil-young resists, insisting Hwa-pyung shouldn’t be considered a suspect. When her boss doesn’t back down, she pleads that he at least postpone the arrest and that she’ll bring him in peacefully. But her boss doesn’t see any reason why they should give special consideration for someone they have on CCTV running away from a murder scene.

Worried about Hwa-pyung, Kil-young calls to warn him he’s a murder suspect and that he needs to get to the police station. Hwa-pyung tells her about his father being possessed.

He refuses to go to the police station because he needs to find his father before it’s too late — after all, if his father is possessed by Park Il-do, it’s only a matter of time before he kills again, then pokes his eye out and dies.

Hwa-pyung goes to Yoon, asking for his help — and begs him not to answer the phone when Kil-young calls. Yoon looks mildly conflicted, then ultimately decides to help Hwa-pyung find his father, choosing to ignore Kil-young’s call.

At the construction site, the foreman is in his office, going over paperwork. He hears a noise outside and, assuming someone’s trespassing, he grabs a flashlight and investigates. But it’s only Yoon and Hwa-pyung secretly staking out the construction site. Hwa-pyung assumes that Geun-ho will come here since the foreman is one of the people who Geun-ho felt wronged him.

Another is the employment agency manager, so Hwa-pyung has Yook Kwang keeping an eye on that office. When he calls to check on his shaman friend, Yook Kwang just whines that he’s keeping watch all by himself and doesn’t have any company like Hwa-pyung does.

Detective Go is in charge of finding Hwa-pyung, and Kil-young sighs when they get the reports back that both Geun-ho and Hwa-pyung’s fingerprints were at the scene of the crime. Detective Go finds it strange that Kil-young keeps wanting to protect Hwa-pyung, wondering if there’s something going on between them.

Hwa-pyung asks Detective Go to trust her, and Detective Go grumbles that she keeps talking about trust but not explaining why Hwa-pyung keeps popping up in their cases. Kil-young says she’ll explain it later, and heads out to track down Hwa-pyung.

Yoon and Hwa-pyung hide as a police car drives by, and Yoon muses that they’re acting like criminals. But he also reassures Hwa-pyung that they’ll find his father. Aw. Yoon wonders how Geun-ho was possessed, and Hwa-pyung says his father was fine until he received that phone call.

The strange thing, though, is that right before Geun-ho was possessed, he told Hwa-pyung that Park Il-do was actually in Grandpa. Hwa-pyung finds it hard to believe, but the only way to get answers is by finding his father and exorcising him.

He asks Yoon for his help in the exorcism, and Yoon agrees without hesitation. Except, of course, we all know that he’s been cursed, and the next time he performs the exorcism, the stabbing pain he feels will be revealed and his body and soul will begin to rot. But he doesn’t mention that to Hwa-pyung.

Realizing there’s another place his father could be, Hwa-pyung asks Yoon to stay put and continue watching the foreman. Then Hwa-pyung leaves.

Meanwhile, Yook Kwang takes a break to relieve himself on a scrap pile, only to be confronted by Kil-young. Ha, is that where Hwa-pyung gets his “I just happened to be peeing in the area” cover stories?

She demands to know what he’s doing there — not why he’s relieving himself, but why he’s in front of the employment agency. Yook Kwang starts to babble some made-up shamanistic nonsense, but Kil-young cuts straight to the point as she hauls out her handcuffs. If he doesn’t tell her where Hwa-pyung is, she’ll arrest him for being an accessory to murder.

Yook Kwang immediately cracks, so Kil-young heads to the construction site. But only Yoon is there. She’s mad at him, too, since he’s helping Hwa-pyung without talking to her. She demands to know where Hwa-pyung is, but Yoon points out that they need to find Geun-ho.

If they don’t find Geun-ho and something happens to him, Hwa-pyung would go crazy. But Kil-young points out that if she doesn’t get to Hwa-pyung first, he could be arrested by someone else, and then Hwa-pyung will be sent to jail and be even more helpless as Park Il-do continues to kill people.

Hwa-pyung returns home and sees someone in the darkened room. It’s his grandfather, much to Hwa-pyung’s surprise. Grandpa says that Geun-ho told him where he lived, and says Hwa-pyung should turn on the light so they can see each other.

Hwa-pyung hesitates, asking why Grandpa is there. Grandpa says he just wanted to see how Hwa-pyung is doing, but Hwa-pyung is suspicious that Grandpa didn’t contact him first. Grandpa’s cheery demeanor fades when Hwa-pyung says he knows that Grandpa went to see Geun-ho.

When Hwa-pyung demands to know how Grandpa found Geun-ho, Grandpa says he looked up the phone number when Geun-ho called him. Hwa-pyung suspiciously asks why Grandpa has been taking bus rides despite telling Hwa-pyung that he gets sick on the bus. Grandpa confesses he’s been looking for Geun-ho, following up every mysterious phone call he’s received for the past five years.

As Grandpa steps closer, Hwa-pyung yells at him to stay away. He doesn’t trust Grandpa, especially since his father changed after meeting Grandpa earlier that day. He demands Grandpa prove if he can see out of his right eye.

Realizing that Hwa-pyung believes he’s possessed, Grandpa angrily refuses, asking why Hwa-pyung doesn’t believe him. That’s because Grandpa has lied to him for twenty years, since he was the one who told Geun-ho to kill Hwa-pyung. Grandpa yells that it isn’t true, but Hwa-pyung wonders if Grandpa is really Park Il-do.

Grandpa slaps Hwa-pyung, then immediately regrets his angry action. But Hwa-pyung, hurt both physically and emotionally, storms out of his home. He sees Kil-young waiting for him, and he takes off running.

She chases after him, and his way is blocked by Detective Go. He’s trapped between the two detectives as Kil-young pleads with Hwa-pyung to come with them, promising that they’re still looking for his father. Detective Go arrests him for the murder of the landlord and escorts a hand-cuffed Hwa-pyung to the police station.

Detective Go takes the lead in the interrogation room while Kil-young stands in the corner, watching. They have witnesses that insist Geun-ho accused Hwa-pyung of killing the landlord, but Hwa-pyung sighs that they misunderstood what his father was saying. But he can’t explain why they were fighting, which makes him seem even more suspicious.

When it’s just the two of them, Kil-young tells Hwa-pyung that she’ll search for his father. Hwa-pyung blames himself for his father being possessed. Geun-ho had been hiding for twenty years, but it wasn’t until Hwa-pyung found him that Park Il-do possessed him.

Kil-young drives back to the construction site and checks in with Yoon. No sign of Geun-ho so far. He asks about Hwa-pyung, and they both wonder how Geun-ho was possessed by Park Il-do.

Kil-young reveals that she discovered Park Il-do was a real person. By tracking down Lee Chul-yong’s son, she found out that Park Il-do was the youngest son of rich and powerful family during the Japanese occupation.

Park Il-do was sent to Japan for school, and when he returned, his bizarre tendencies turned brutal when he killed all his servants. The bodies were found dumped in a well, and the family quietly tried to cover it up, removing Park Il-do from the family registry.

They sent him away to the seaside, but while there, he killed his wife and son, saying that he wasn’t human and needed to return to his true form. Park Il-do stabbed out his right eye and then drowned in the sea. The last thing Park Il-do said was that he wanted to become a superior spirit.

Yoon realizes that this must be why everyone possessed by Park Il-do stabs out their eye and then dies, but he wonders if Park Il-do actually chose to be a spirit. Kil-young’s not sure, but the next person to be possessed was Lee Chul-yong, who was also the last man to see Park Il-do alive, and Park Il-do continues to possess people every twenty years.

Kil-young also discovered that Park Il-do’s brother is Hong-joo’s grandfather. Which means Park Il-do and Hong-joo are related by blood.

Hong-joo visits her father in the hospital. She’s got her own questions about Park Il-do and why he’s been helping her. Her father explains that his uncle, Park Il-do, was kicked out of the family due to killing many people — including a family member. He muses that she looks a lot like Park Il-do, and then starts coughing.

Hong-joo cooly watches as her fathers gasps and coughs, flailing as he tries to reach the nurse’s call button. But he can’t reach it, and it looks like she won’t be too sad to see him die.

Alone in the interrogation room, Hwa-pyung can’t stop thinking about his last encounters with his father and grandfather. Meanwhile, Grandpa packs up his belongings and leaves Hwa-pyung’s apartment.

Yoon’s still staking out the construction site, although he’s now alone. A unknown number calls him and it’s Geun-ho — or, at least, a demon voice. He warns Yoon that they’re going to go to Hwa-pyung and finish what wasn’t completed twenty years ago.

Kil-young investigates the inn, studying the spot where the landlord was killed. She cautiously makes her way to Geun-ho’s room, looking for anything that might prove Hwa-pyung’s innocence. Yoon calls, warning her that the possessed Geun-ho contacted him and is planning to go to Hwa-pyung.

She’s confident Hwa-pyung is safe, since he’s still at the police station. But she sees a man suddenly run from the inn. Kil-young chases him down and tackles him, but he’s just a petty thief — not a possessed killer.

She drags him down to the police station, since he’s also a witness and can confirm that it was Geun-ho who killed the landlord, not Hwa-pyung. With this new evidence, Hwa-pyung is freed. Kil-young waits outside, worried about him, asking if he’s eaten.

But he’s determined to find his father. Yoon is also there, which annoys Hwa-pyung since Yoon should be looking for Geun-ho. But Yoon doesn’t need to keep watching the construction site since he knows that Geun-ho will find Hwa-pyung. Yoon relays what the spirits told him about completing their unfinished business from back then.

Hwa-pyung calls his grandfather, but Grandpa doesn’t pick up. Instead, he’s on the bus, trying to stifle his queasiness after the long ride. He walks home, but stops when he sees a worn-out pair of unfamiliar shoes in front of his house.

Those are Geun-ho’s shoes, and the man looms ominously over Grandpa, saying that it’s nice to be back. Grandpa embraces his son with open arms, crying with joy as he welcomes Geun-ho home.

Grandpa worries over the state of his son’s feet, and Geun-ho says he walked all the way there. It took him all night, and he didn’t stop once. The possessed Geun-ho stares at the family picture and covers Hwa-pyung’s face with his finger.

A neighbor calls out to Grandpa. A couple of policeman are with him, and they ask about Geun-ho, wondering if Grandpa has seen him recently. He nervously asks why the cops are looking for Geun-ho, but they don’t tell him anything.

Grandpa worries for a moment when the cops notice the worn out shoes, but the neighbor assumes that Grandpa must have walked instead of taking the bus, a fact that Grandpa nervously affirms.

Grandpa returns to the house, worriedly asking Geun-ho what he did to make the police so interested in him. But Geun-ho is too busy gulping down water to answer. He starts to scratch at his neck, and Grandpa realizes something is terribly wrong.

He quietly picks up his cell phone, but the battery is dead. Then he reaches for the landline, but Geun-ho — with his back still to his father — asks who Grandpa is calling. Grandpa says he wanted to let Hwa-pyung know Geun-ho was here, but the possessed Geun-ho says it doesn’t matter, since Hwa-pyung is already on his way.

Geun-ho grasps for the knife he has hidden in his jacket and tells Grandpa that he has unfinished business to complete — and this time, Grandpa had better not stop him.

As the trio drive to Hwa-pyung’s hometown, Hwa-pyung has a vision of his father attacking Grandpa. He comes out of his trance as soon as they pull up to Grandpa’s house, and Hwa-pyung runs inside, worried about his grandfather. The old man is covered in blood and, as Kil-young calls for an ambulance, the guys attempt first aid.

Grandpa’s barely conscious and is losing a lot of blood, but Hwa-pyung desperately says that he can still live. Grandpa gasps out that he’s sorry that he originally told Geun-ho to kill Hwa-pyung — he was just afraid Hwa-pyung would become like Lee Chul-yong, who floated three days without dying.

Hwa-pyung tells Grandpa to save his energy, but Grandpa gasps out that he’s always regretted that day. He just wanted to see Hwa-pyung grow up and get married. Grandpa’s eyes lose focus and he says he can see his wife.

Hwa-pyung watches in horror as Grandpa takes one last breath and loses consciousness. Kil-young continues to perform CPR on the old man as Hwa-pyung stares in shock. Yoon tries looking for Geun-ho, but Hwa-pyung sees his father standing in the middle of the road road with rope in his hands.

He takes off running after his father, and Yoon runs after him. All three men race down the country road. Turning a bend, Hwa-pyung suddenly stops, unable to see where his father went.

That’s because Geun-ho’s behind him, and he tries to strangle Hwa-pyung with the rope. Hwa-pyung struggles and reaches into his pocket, pulling out his mother’s wedding ring. It’s enough to distract Geun-ho — and even momentarily knock the demons out of him.

Bewildered, Geun-ho wonders where he is. He tells Hwa-pyung that there’s something important he needs to share with him, but Geun-ho’s grow wide with horror at something behind Hwa-pyung.

As Geun-ho fights against being possessed, he gasps out an order for Hwa-pyung to run away — and that he’s sorry for everything. But he can’t win against the demons, and he’s soon possessed again and continues running down the pathway.

Hwa-pyung follows his father to a bridge, where he stands on the edge, the rope around his neck. The spirits inside Geun-ho warn Hwa-pyung that everyone around him will die — his parents, grandparents, Yoon, and Kil-young.

Then he stabs out his right eye, and as Hwa-pyung runs to his father, Geun-ho steps off the bridge and dangles by his neck from the rope. Hwa-pyung desperately reaches for his father as Yoon runs up.

They both attempt to reach Geun-ho to pull him up on the bridge, but instead they can only helplessly watch him die. Hwa-pyung screams for his father.

 
COMMENTS

Ooof. What an emotional rollercoaster. It feels like a terrible thing to say, but I almost wish Hwa-pyung’s family died when he was boy, like Kil-young and Yoon’s families did, than for him to have to endure this. He’s only barely found his father again, just to watch him die in such a brutal manner. And not only that, he’s convinced his father died because of him. Which isn’t true, of course, but how can Hwa-pyung avoid the guilt associated with knowing the spirits are determined to kill anyone that surrounds him? Just by existing, Hwa-pyung has doomed others. That’s not something I’d wish on anyone, and only serves to prove just how evil Park Il-do is. Brutally killing other people is one thing, but this is straight up emotional and psychological torture.

Then there’s Grandpa. Sob. I was so relieved that he wasn’t Park Il-do. I refused to believe it, because Hwa-pyung needed one good person in his life, but I’m not ready to say goodbye to Grandpa! He was trying to do the right thing! He spent his life determined to protect Hwa-pyung, paying penance for a lifetime of guilt because he originally decided Hwa-pyung needed to die. And it comes down to this. Ugh. I’m just not ready for more people to die, especially ones we’ve gotten to know and love. Park Il-do, why are you so evil?????

Well, at least we know that that evil is hereditary. Hong-joo may not be quite on the same bloodthirsty level as Park Il-do, but I can totally believe that her mental instability is something passed down through her DNA. Which makes me wonder that if something happens to her, would she decide to kill herself just so she could become an even more powerful, more vengeful spirit than her great-uncle? Seriously, that would even more terrifying than the already-terrifying Park Il-do. (If this show wants another season, I think I’ve figured out the new Big Bad.)

Now I’m nervous about how many of our beloved trio will make it to the end of the drama. I’m pretty sure Kil-young could survive, but I’m worried about the boys. Yoon still hasn’t told them about his curse, and if my understanding is correct, he’s only on the first part of it, where he feels like he’s being stabbed each night. That means he hasn’t entered the second phase, where his flesh and soul will rot. But he still blithely agrees to perform exorcisms for Hwa-pyung, despite knowing full well that, thanks to the curse, it will kill him, too. I’d mutter something about him being a Noble Idiot but I suppose if you only had it in you to perform one or two more exorcisms in your life, and you could use them to save your boyfriend’s, er, I mean, totally-platonic-nothing-more-mmm-hmm-sure psychic friend’s life while ridding the world of a super-evil boogeyman, well, it’s maybe not that idiotic, despite being frustratingly self-sacrificing.

But now that puts me in the awkward place of hoping Park Il-do continues to evade capture (and ultimately kill more people) just for my own selfish need to watch Yoon and Hwa-pyung bicker like an old married couple until they realize the other is in danger, which results in them dropping whatever they’re doing to rush to the other’s side. Kil-young’s also there, of course, rolling her eyes at these two idiots, but she’d unquestioningly give her right arm to protect them. Because they’re family now. They have no one else but each other. And let’s hope nothing — and no one — tears them apart.

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ok, the phone call thing ruined the momentum for me lol why would a demon *call* to inform you what it's up to? moreover, the fire extinguisher was touched by only geunho, wouldn't it have been easier to check the fingerprints on that since it's the murder weapon? granted, there's a slight possibility hwapyung's fingerprints could have been on that during scuffle but it doesn't look that way. isn't it obvious hwapyung is possessed or at least is like a "portal" for PID? i mean, neither geunho nor grandpa were pid but geunho ended up being possessed after the phone call (which is yet again funny, you're demons, why you need telephones when you have supernatural strength lol) but pid found geunho after hwapyung found him. it's like pid can see hwapyung's POVs too like hwapyung can for pid.

at this point, i think it's possible they'll have to kill hwapyung to kill pid (kinda like hp had a part of voldemort's soul lol) but i'm really worried about yoon, he's cursed and he'll die at the 3rd strike, i don't want him (or any of the leads) to die :(
the ultimate twist would be kilyoung or yoon turned out to be pid (can yoon get possessed after the 3rd strike of his curse?) tho. i mean, somewhere down the line, they both have resentment and regrets and anger.

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"Grandpa gasps out that he’s always regretted that day. He just wanted to see Hwa-pyung grow up and get married"

didn't he say he's divorced twice tho? i also wonder why kilyoung keeps saying she has no family when she mentioned she has a kid? i totally love his drama and characters but can they take care of the discrepancies? lols

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Both Kil Young and Hwa Pyung said it as a joke. They never had a family of their own at the first place

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Hwa Pyung touched the fire extinguisher with both hands when defending himself and I agree with you it felt like the show wrote itself into a corner on how to get the trio to to granpa's house so they decided to let the demons call Yoon πŸ˜‚

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Poor Hwa Pyung. T_T

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I always appreciate the hopeful commentary at the end. It helps to envision a happy simple daily life for these three whenever the episode hits us hard like this. I offer thee my deepest gratitude.

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When HP fight with Grandpa and seeing grandpa left his house, dang...I feel a knot in my heart.. And then when grandpa hugs his son.... pretty sure we can see his fate from miles away~
2 loss in that manner, oh HP... and he still hasn't moved on from what happened to mom and grandma TT_TT

I know that HP did get a vision when Yoon got attacked by the spirits but did he also hear what Seoyoon said? Since he did worried about his wellbeing. Hopefully, they found out about it because there is no way Yoon will tell them anything.

'They have no one else but each other' and I hope they still with each other when we reach the end..........

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Thanks @odilettante , 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
I'm anxious and nervous and frightened for our trio .

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Why, why the boys don't share with each other and Kil Young, nothing good came from dealing with problems by them self so far and they still go with that stupid noble idiocy sacrifice. Hope they spare granpa and let HP live, didn't he suffer enough. Kil Young kicked ass in this episode. So sad for ep 12, this week was heart wrenching in Guest universe.

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Thanks @odilettante ... This was an episode that left me feeling so sad on Hwa Pyung's behalf. The abandoned child who was nervous about finding his father, only to be rebuffed again by him, to be considered evil and rejected, then only for a brief moment treated like a son, only for the worst possible ending where his father now becomes possessed, tries again to kill him, practically kills his grandfather and then only briefly regains his humanity before giving in to possession and killing himself before HP's eyes.

I can't imagine a greater pain, when hope turned to horror and despair. So much wounding and brokenness HP experienced over and over again, at every turn... and so many turns there were, in this episode. So sad. 😢

Camera work was effectively affective with the scenes (yes dark but not entirely) which showed HP small in the frame, in his aloneness.

I've some questions and thoughts, but later. Let me take the time to mourn with HP for a little while. 😔

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Continuing in an attempt to figure out the demon logic. Basically some things don't make sense. I fear the writing is beginning to unravel a bit in an attempt to get us to a certain point or points.

We see a repeat of an OCD demon need to kill every member of a family after possessing one member of it. We also learn that once possessed, that member is forever the target or the vessel of the demon.

However, that does not make sense when there are 2 members of the family being possessed. If HP is possessed ie is still a vessel for PID, why is he also targeted to be killed by his possessed father? If HP's father had PID's minion demons in him, PID should not have wanted his vessel to be killed, since he has been wanting to regain full control over HP.

PID being the head demon should have stopped his own minions from attacking him. (Does this make sense?)

What stops the murder? - Geun Ho changed his mind about following through with killing HP just because a neighbour/thief happened to witness the fight? That is more a human reaction than a demonic one, ie he stopped in order to run away because he was afraid of being caught. (Does not make sense.)

Or, was it the case that as he told Yoon over the phone, he wanted to end it back in the old home? Again so very fixated (OCD may not be the correct term for this rigidity) in the who and where of the killing.

Then strangely, the demons call Yoon, not HP, to lure them to the old family home. Presumably calling HP would result in him going only with Yoon, whereas calling Yoon would probably guarantee that Yoon would tell KY so that she's on the scene as well? (Does that make sense? But why bother with KY?)

And really, was a phone call necessary ... HP's vision of dad attacking grandpa could have happened earlier and he would still have gone home. (Phone call does not make sense)

Method of killing - Geun Ho goes home, waits for HP and lures him out to strangle him with a rope ... he seems to be obssessed with strangling his son, eventhough he already has that dagger/knife.

(Side note: The stabbings are usually on the abdomen ... I thought targeting the neck would have been more certain of causing death.) Anyway, the rope may mean that already Geun Ho had planned that he was going to hang himself (like Priest Choi). This is interesting because they are near the sea and he could have done the PID thing of drowning himself. But anyway ...

Moment of regaining control - The sight of his wedding ring suddenly expels the demons for a few seconds and Geun Ho regains his humanity. This means that all along when Yoon and HP had been shouting at possessed people to stand firm against the spirits and not let go or lose themselves, they had a point. Spirits can be expelled by humans with enough will power, determination or whatever humanity they can muster. And so that means that humans can stop spirits from entering in the first place.

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Relapse - However struck by horror that he has a bloody knife in hand, Geun Ho again gives way to guilt and allows the demons back in. Instead of continuing to kill HP, he goes through the same pattern of stabbing his eye and killing himself, but without killing HP first.

So, did the demons change their minds about getting dad to kill HP? Did that last bit of humanity and recognition of his son drive him to self immolation instead?

PID we are shown, had no hesitation killing his own wife and son before killing himself. So this is a break in the PID style.

It is interesting that Priest Choi also chose to hang himself (still with demons inside him) and he had not yet killed Yoon. With just 2 hangings, I don't suppose we can say we have a pattern here, but let's not have any more hangings please!

Eye stabbing - This is kind of obscure to me ... so PID himself did it... then if those directly possessed by him do it, I guess it kinda makes sense. But why should those possessed by minion demons also do it?

I guess the one question that is never answered is whether PID is a free-wheeling spirit coming and going to take over from his minions, and it's only at that point that the last killing and eye stabbing thing takes place, or whether he has to remain in one vessel or whether he's just lurking in that tunnel to chit chat with Park Hong Joo and does not get around much. 😏

Still loving the show, both sense and nonsense. 😜

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What if it's the opposite of what we've been led to believe the entire show? What if HP is the only guy to have resisted possession by Park il do? We didn't see him acting possessed (sure he was acting weird, but to me, his behaviour didn't match someone who was possessed, if we compare it to the other possessed characters in the show) . Also he saw park il do lurking in the corner of the house when he was young. I know, there was a ritual performed on him believing he was possessed. But what if everyone was mistaken? If that's the case, maybe Park il do wants to kill him because he's a real threat to him. Since he can't possess him, might as well kill him.

The demons in this show are intelligent. I think they called Yoon, because HP was in the interrogation room. I'm not sure, but I think maybe he didn't have his phone on him at the time or he wasn't allowed to use his phone. So the best way to ensure their message reaches him is to call Yoon.

Re the phone call- They wanted to ensure he's present at the right place at the right time. Very helpful or just being sadistic.

As to why HP's dad and Priest choi killed themselves without killing our heroes, maybe they finally took possession of their body at the last moment and decided to sacrifice themselves . The spirits probably understood there's no use anymore and so got rid of them, but not without torturing HP one last time. I know , I'm being too optimistic regarding the willpower and perseverance of these 2.

Eye stabbing- Maybe it's the signature move, letting everyone know that this is the work of PID and Co. All rights reserved.πŸ˜‹

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@superwhopotterlock
I like your theory about HP not being possessed. It was the same theory that I posed in the beginning, because he never manifested the same characteristics or 'symptoms' of being possessed. I'd like to take what you say and go with it for as far as possible in the next recap.

Your ideas as to why the phone call to Yoon and why Geun Ho and Priest Choi hanged themselves is also possible. Maybe it becomes a bit clearer in these last few episodes. Thanks for sharing your theories. It makes my questions seem less 'weird'. 😜

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I also had so many questions, but didn't know how to phrase them. Typing out my theories makes them more plausible, because in my mind they seemed illogical πŸ˜‚. Also thank you for not thinking my answers as weird.

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IA with writing being less tight recently. Red herrings put in just for the sake of having red herring like that with grandpa seemed really sloppy, if they want us confused in a good way, character should be written more ambiguous from the start, not pull a cheap trick on viewers purely for shock value. They constantly showed us that forcibly possessed people act strange from the start with few moment of clarity here and there, so how viewers supposed to believe that someone was secretly possessed for years and not only him never suspected a thing, none of his acquaintance or family took notice.

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Such a sad episode and you know it's not over yet and the coming episodes will just keep piling on with almost no care for our heroes 😞

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Hwa Pyung and his totally platonic priest friend (nah, they luff each other) are making me very worried about the last episode of this drama. I think you're right @odilettante that Kil-young will come out of this alive, if not unscathed (don't you dare make me wrong writer), but I fear that one of the boys will sacrifice themselves for their new-found family. All I ask, after all the trauma and heart-ripping torture these three (well, and me and @waadmay) have gone through, is that we have a final scene of all three relaxed, happy, and together. Coffee and waffles would be a bonus. Oh, and maybe a small Gong Yoo cameo, just for old times sake.

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@egads the reference to a small Gong Yoo cameo befuddles me. Was it because GY and KJW were in Coffee Prince together?

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Yes! But Kim Dong-wook was also in Coffee Prince, so it would be a mini reunion for the coffee shop princes.

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@odilettante word salad about their totally (!) platonic r/ship makes me smile 😘😘😘

Gong Yoo. Joo Ji Hoon. Yoon Eun Hye
I'm not picky. Either one or all can cameo and expand that little family tbh πŸ˜‰πŸ˜‰

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Oh I luff you egads , I was thinking of a Gong Yoo cameo for a while now , bit never mentioned it to anyone .
And yes I'm going through a lot , I know you are too .
Write-nim ,egads and me deserve our happy ending , don't dare mess with us or I will hunt you down when I get my job offer for OCN's the priest .

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Yeah, I'm a little crazy after this episode. It's me again with random thoughts.

I'm very pleased that we actually get a fuller back-story on the beginnings of PID and can trace the evil he chose to embody to the grandniece, Park Hong Joo. In RL evil is not something that runs in families across generations who don't even know each other ... they do get passed on by modelling (if that's the term) but this was not the case in PHJ's case. She was just bad from the beginning.

KY continues to be the most reasonable, right-thinking and awesome character. She rightly pointed out that HP was just making things worse by getting arrested instead of turning himself in. By avoiding arrest, he only wasted time for 2 stake outs at the wrong places, when he might have had time to go back home to see granddad and have a proper talk to realise that granddad had lied but he was not possessed.

Yoon is understandibly reticent on the threats to his life. For one thing, there are no other alternative exorcists besides Yook Kwang, who is not strong enough on his own. So Yoon would still have to be the one to do the job. Also, demons do lie and not everything they say may come to pass. They are pretty good at half truths and twisting things around to put the wrong ideas in minds. So Yoon will probably not talk about it, except maybe to Priest Yang.

Speaking of which, Priest Yang is strangely conspicuous by his absence. He did say last episode that he regretted not taking action before and that he would start being more active in tracking down PID.

Our poor Hwa Pyung. I don't know what to think (which is the point the show wants to drive us viewers batty about!!!). Perhaps more about whether he's possessed or not in the next recap. Good as his intentions are, he has continually gone contrary to the law, somewhat without a plan, and been half baked in trying to save every possessed person he comes across. His attitude is to be applauded, however he may need to step back and figure out if he's been doing as much harm as good, if he's a catalyst bringing death as the demons like to prophesy or if by his doing his very best, he is doing what's right. I personally lean towards the latter. However the harsh words that all those close to him are doomed are echoing louder and louder now. 😣

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to save your boyfriend’s, er, I mean, totally-platonic-nothing-more-mmm-hmm-sure psychic friend’s life

lol

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Thank you for your recap and comments, @odilettante. You've managed to survive another episode. Manseh!

The human Park Il-do sounds like a "bad seed." Was he exposed to a malevolent spirit while in Japan that he brought home as a β€œsouvenir”? He expressed the conscious intention to become a superior spirit, and killed his physical body to achieve his goal.

I have an inkling that, of the trio, only Hwa-pyung and Yoon/Mateo are being targeted by PID. It may have to do with both their families' spiritual orientation. One belongs to a hereditary family of shamans and is also a psychic. The other is from a devout Catholic family, although we don't know if there have been uncles or cousins who were also priests and exorcists. Kil-young, on the other hand, does not seem to be on PID's radar. Her police officer mother stumbled by accident upon the murder scene at the Choi residence and was killed herself, but had not been targeted for demonic possession. I get the impression that the detective is not a believer of any kind. That may be her saving grace.

The malign spirits have told Yoon/Mateo that they are gunning for him. Priest Yang told him that once they target someone, they do not stop until they succeed. Is this true, or is it a self-fulfilling prophecy? PID is ultimately a minion of the Prince of Darkness & Father of Lies himself, so it's hard to tell what to believe. I assume he's lying every time he speaks. PID's subversion of faith is truly diabolical.

I'm bothered by Kil-young's keeping Detective Go in the dark about the demonic aspects of the cases. He has already been attacked by one possessed person. The fact that she herself has eventually come to accept the metaphysical basis of the crimes committed by possessed souls says to me that it could be possible for other officers to wrap their heads around it, too. – But it would take time for them to grok it, just as it took time for her to come to grips with it. This is not the kind of thing to spring on someone. – They could approach it like anthropologists. They don't actually have to believe it themselves. Being able to keep and open mind and to put themselves in a believer's shoes might enable them to more effectively serve and protect – and solve crimes.

Kil-young's refusal to level with Detective Go puts him in danger. Forewarned is forearmed. Maybe she knows him so well that she's aware he would never believe a word of it. But I think she owes it to him to inform him so he can draw his own conclusions and do some research. Exorcism has been performed for thousands of years because it addresses a need. And ignoring it won't make it go away. It will only deprive her colleague(s) of strategic insight that might save their lives.

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Rewatching the scene where Hwapyung comes back to his apartment and confronts his grandfather about being Park Il Do after you've watched the episode is so, so heart-wrenching, and it's amazing how just suspicion before the scene of the grandfather makes the scene super ominous, but once you find out the truth and rewatch it, all the creepiness is totally gone: it's just a concerned grandfather who suffered a long trip in order to to see his grandson, only to be yelled at. It's amazing how the production/writing/directing team can manipulate the audience to interpret a scene a certain way.

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Yup, I think it's in the editing that scenes can get shifted around so that a message gets maximum impact, by virtue of the order of what the viewer sees.

There was a build-up to our suspicions that grandpa could also have been evil and HP had no clue that grandpa was (still) in town on the very day that his father gets possessed. His father had told him that he'd seen grandpa, but there was no proof of that, however with grandpa right in his living room, it gives him pause. Put that altogether with the 'lies' about not travelling by bus/car, plus dad saying that the order to kill HP came from gramps and we're all on the brink of seeing PID in grandpa too.

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An alternative to Park Il-do's phone call:

http://www.dramabeans.com/members/pakalanapikake/activity/633814/

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Call me crazy, but why didn't they pull the rope up, grab his dad, and untie it? If you can't reach him, bring him where you can reach.

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