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Lovestruck in the City: Episodes 6-7 Open Thread

Our weary and heartsick architect just can’t seem to let go of his past, no matter how hard he tries. His life back then almost seems like a dream, with everyone telling him to get back to reality. But his vacation romance was all-too real, and one fateful encounter is sure to prove that.

 
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We jump into the topic of partners having friends of the opposite sex — and surprise, surprise, Jae-won voices that he’s not cool with that. I, for one, think men and women can have strong relationships without being romantic, as does Geon. In fact, he and Eun-oh have been best buds since they were kids, which is why they’re roommates now.

Of course, that doesn’t mean friendship can never lead to romance. Rin-yi and Kyung-joon started out as friends, though Kyung-joon was clearly crushing on her for years. (Kyung-joon following Rin-yi on blind dates to provide approval? Adorbs.) It wasn’t until he returned from military service that he finally asked her out.

Jae-won scoffs that Kyung-joon wasted so many years trying to win over a girl, and Kyung-joon retorts that Jae-won himself is suffering over a two-month fling. Ouch, he’s got you there.

I actually really like this dynamic with Eun-oh and Geon; they’re very much like bickering siblings. As Eun-oh is trying to attack Geon for messing up her work, Geon tells Director-nim that Eun-oh got more aggressive after her last vacation.

The duo is also friendly with Rin-yi and Kyung-joon, which… Ohhh, okay. So this was Eun-oh’s second reason for breaking it off with Jae-won. She reveals that her friends have no idea that she’s the Yoon Sun-ah from Jae-won’s love story.

While the four of them have game night at Eun-oh’s place, Jae-won gets a call from a friend. The friend informs him that a woman came into his studio to develop photos and that he noticed Jae-won in them. Finally, some progress here!

After Jae-won sees his friend at the studio, he calls Kyung-joon, who invites him over to play with them. Eun-oh panics and tries to make a quick escape, but she ends up running right into Jae-won’s car. She bolts in the other direction, with him jumping out to chase after her. Really, though? Do you have to go this far to hide from him? I get that you’re scared, but aghhh.

Eun-oh manages to get away, and to her relief, she overhears Jae-won calling Kyung-joon back to say he can’t make it. Once she’s back home, she tells Director-nim that the real reason she kept Jae-won’s cameras was because she found out he was related to Kyung-joon. And if Jae-won ever showed his cousin the photos, her cover would’ve been blown.

In the next episode, Minho continues his cameo, and we learn that he’s a police officer who’s very familiar with Jae-won. Apparently, Jae-won’s been to the police station quite a few times, drunkenly ranting about Yoon Sun-ah. And as Jae-won cries his woes now, for seeing Sun-ah in the street, Sun-young is off to the side also drunk.

By morning, Eun-oh and friends are having breakfast and a mini dance session, when Kyung-joon gets a call to pick up Jae-won from the station. After doing so, Kyung-joon rightfully confiscates all of Jae-won’s liquor. Hopefully, Minho and his fellow officers can finally have some peace.

Tired of it all, Jae-won takes his surfboard out of his closet with the intentions of throwing it out. At the same time, Eun-oh takes her board out as well. For a moment, it seems like they might cross paths on the street, but no, this drama wants us to suffer a bit longer.

Though Jae-won wants to forget his Sun-ah, the memories are too much for him, and he figures he can toss the board another time. Eun-oh has difficulty letting go of her board too, but in the end, she forces herself to give it away. She just tells herself that, like the rain, her sad memories will also pass.

Later, Jae-won suddenly remembers the blackbox in his car — meaning if he really saw Sun-ah last night, it’ll be on film. He drags Kyung-joon back to where he parked in Eun-oh’s neighborhood, but it’s already been towed (after Eun-oh reported it). We end with the boys finding the car… and the blackbox.

Now please, please tell me they’re going to discover the truth. Because I’m tired of Jae-won being a sad sack all the time, and I’m tired of Eun-oh knowing this and ignoring it.

Jae-won’s whining has been getting on my nerves, but the longer this drags out, I’m more upset with Eun-oh’s deception. Jae-won’s heartbreak is practically killing him, and the only person he has (Kyung-joon) isn’t taking him seriously. It was this week that he seemed truly alone, especially when comparing him to Eun-oh with her friends.

At this point, I don’t even know if I want some of these couples together. Kyung-joon and Rin-yi are great, but the others are bordering on toxic. Like, it’s ridiculous that Sun-young (who I wanted to like) broke up with Geon simply because he has two female friends. I find so much in this show ridiculous, but I still want to see the fallout. I deserve to see it, dammit.

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For a moment I thought it would be great that JaeWon and SeonYeong could actually meet and connect and become a real couple. Both of them don't like their partner to be friends with someone of the opposite sex, so they could be perfect together, and maybe JaeWon would learn to move on. I wonder if drama is going that way.

I really hate all the jealousy thing in dramas about boyfriend/girlfriend being mad and menacing to break up because of the boy / girl friend of the other. It's not jealousy, it's not love, it's insecurity and possession. It's a trope I hate both in fiction an in real life.

I'm surprised on how little I'm liking KJW here. And it's not only that I dislike her character, but she just doesn't fit in the drama: not as Eun-Oh nor as SunAh. Maybe it's only that I don't get her motives, first to run away, then to fake being someone else, then to go back and not face the fact the man she fell for is friends with her friends. So as I don't get any of her character's motivation, I don't connect with her acting.

To my surprise, though, I'm understanding better JaeWon and I find JCW acting better. Still finding JW annoying, true, but I get his point and why he's not over the woman he fell so hard for, and that's because of JCW's acting (or something).

I also hope we get to know who SunAh is and that adults talk about how bad is lying, and please, let JW get a closure and never see EO again, because she's quite toxic.

I was really intrigued by the last scene, btw.

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I totally agree about understanding Jae Won better. He needs closure, which he never got. She at least knows how he is doing and where he is. She just disappeared without telling him the truth and literally runs when she sees him.

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Jae-won and Seon-yeong both frequent police stations when drunk and are both super possessive about people and possessions. Sounds like a match!

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I would be super possessive about Leica cameras worth ₩20-30M 😅

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She could at least return the cameras by courier if she wanted to.

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She could be an adult, meet him and tell him it went too far and now she doesn’t want to go on. I just can’t get her at all.

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Totally agree about the jealousy thing. If your significant other doesn’t want you to hang out with your long time friends just because they’re the opposite sex, that’s not a sign of how much they love you, that’s a massive red flag.

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Couldn't agree more. It seems Eun-oh only cares about saving face? She wanted to tell him who she really was, didn't, and now doesn't want to be found. How did she think that would work now that she knows her friend is a relative and works with him? Ridiculously immature in every way.

I almost hate to admit that I love Sun-young and her over the top petty ways, but I wouldn't be able to stand her in real life. I too wonder if she'll wind up with Jae-won or if the drama is just showing us that they're both pining for their lost loves .

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I do not think that it is KJW's acting- it is the way her character has been written. Her abandonment of her love is simply not understandable or relatable. In the Island scenes she is obviously really in love with Jae-won, but elected to run off and hide. It simply makes no sense- but that is how the story is written. Even Shin Hye-sun could not pull off this character.

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You may be right. I usually love KJW in everything she does, and here I just can’t connect...

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Even crueler, we have to remember that she is experiencing all of this bliss on the island AFTER she's decided to break it off with him. It's kind of psychopathic. I think the show is giving us these scenes as cute fanservice forgetting that we know what we know. It's delusional storytelling.

Now if she changed her mind, or was even going back and forth, that's fine, we just need some inner monologue here or we're just grasping in the dark like Jae-won and truly thinking she's some heartless nitwit.

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I feel like I'm the only person on the internet that actually understands SunAh a bit and likes her. Eh, i kinda get it. She went on the trip because she hated herself, and while there she decided to be a free spirit, the version of herself that she wanted to be but couldn't be in the more stifling "real world." (I don't think she was faking being somebody else so much as faking being the version of herself that she normally isn't--someone who doesn't hesitate, someone does what she wants without fear. Like, she wasn't faking wanting to surf, but that wasn't somethign that before she wouldn't have done out of fear)
And then when he said he wouldn't like her if she were different--oof. I've had that sinking feeling when you suddenly realize you're in a relationship with someone who is in love with only part of you, an idealized version of you. I don't mean the honeymoon phase when you're still getting to know each other, I mean when they think they really know you, but they only like that one version of you that's not the true you, and you realize they aren't going to like the whole you. It's crushing. It's even hurtful when it's just from a friend. I was kind of a free spirit in college, but then I got a job where I had to wear business clothes and sometimes even a suit because, you know, bills, and one of my school friends basically told me I had changed and was a sellout. Based just on my clothes. I was the same person, but that was enough for them to be disappointed in me. So I can totally relate to how her character felt in that moment.
You don't really care much if someone you meet on vacation sees the real, whole you if you think you'll never see them again, and I can imagine that by the time her character realized she liked him enough to want to keep seeing him later, it was too late. it's why she asked if he would like her if she were different--because she was hoping that he would like the "real" her, and she got the wrong answer. And then having to explain what happened to the people who have known her, the rest of her, for her whole life--I feel so embarrassed for her just thinking about it. And it's not like she anticipated that he would still be dwelling on it--yes they were in love, but also, it was two months? I think the fallout spiralled out of control for her and became something bigger than she anticpated, and she's just panicking. She's desperate to keep things under control.

She didn't handle it right. She should have talked to him about it, or at least left him a message explaining a bit better. But while I don't think her behavior was ok, I can totally understand her feelings.

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She is immature, IMO. She doesn’t act like an adult with some sense of responsibility. Everything must evolve around her, she only cares about her own feelings.

I know some people that have this trait IRL. When they are in a relationship and things go wrong because of their immature decisions and behaviours, they will act all cutesy and bury things, they don’t talk things out.

So yes, you are right, she is childish and panicking. That I can understand. My problem is that I would not want to invest my time and emotion in such a character. I expected more than this.

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* revolve, not evolve :”>

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This explains her situation well. On top of it all, she fears rejection once he sees the real her, especially through her friends. And yet, who would do that to him? Who wouldn't run the risk of rejection, and instead reject pre-emptively and cruelly?

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It's a form of self-harm, I've decided.

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That's totally what I think. She's self punishing, but leaving corpses on the road (sorry I'm literally translating from Spanish here and I couldn't find any accurate expression in English, but I think it explains itself accurately).

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it's hard to nail 🤣🤣🤣 but I know what you're saying

leaving the road strewn with corpses?
creating collateral damage?
leaving a trail of road kill?
littering bodies behind her?
(I'm having fun trying to find the right phrase in English. I wonder what it is in Spanish?)

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None of those nail it, but the meaning is creating collateral damage and I like the most "littering bodies behind her" 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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"it's a form of self-harm."
I think you're right about that.

In her defense, like I said before, I really don't think she realized at first how hard he would take it. Based on the reactions in the next episode, it really seems like she thought (really unrealistic wishful thinking on her part) that it wouldn't be a wound that didn't heal for him.

Of course, intent doesn't really matter when you evaluate whether something is harmful, so her intent doesn't make her actions ok. But intent can make a difference to whether the person you've hurt will choose to forgive you and to how the person who was hurt thinks about you and what happened.

I hope the story will tell us more about what she was like before she met JW, why she hated herself, what she was hoping to accomplish on the trip, and how that time and JW changed her. All we really know is that she was very unhappy with herself, but we don't know why.

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It is weird to think JaeWon and SeonYeong to be a possible couple simply based on their similar opinion on one topic, how about personality? SeonYeong is toxic and obviously not the type of person the Jaewon would like. Mentioning this is off the point to me.

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The sexy dance made me laugh a lot. That being said Jae Won needs closures Eun Noh should have stopped after the first time she slept with him. She let herself get caught up and now she literally runs away from him. What a mess.

As for Rin Yi and Kyung Joon:😍😍😍😍😍😍, they are so cute.

As for Geon and Seon Young: She needs to let it go. They seem to be great friend/siblings. Don't be mad.

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Thanks, @sailorjumun, for the recap! Like I said before, I don't get why Eun-oh has to run away from Jae-won because I don't know her back story. Please let it be this week so I can understand her better. Geon being solo since he broke up with Sun-yeong is great! I really think that a gift given is already the receiver's and the giver should never get it back, specially since Sun-yeong didn't want to give back the handbag the other ex gave her.

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I think these episodes helped me understand Jae-won quite a bit more. He thought he met someone special, had sex in a trailer for 2 months uninterrupted, had his life revolve around this person and then got ghosted. I called him whiny but it'd be weirder to forget someone so easily.

For Eun-oh, running away seems juvenile but covering up for lies makes us do silly things.

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In Kyung Joon's defense, at some point the whining gets old and you have no choice but to shut it out. There's a quote that is particularly my favorite from Downton Abbey...."A lack of compassion is just as vulgar as an excess" ....I think this extends to more than compassion, it extends to some general emotions like disappointment, love and most importantly to somebody whining. That also sums up my feelings for Jae Won....As for Eun Oh/Sun Ah......she is the kind of flaky, wishy washy person I would not wish on my worst enemy. She is the kind who leaves a trail of damage as she leaves with this casual disregard that she mistakes as quirk which is actually a defense mechanism for not admitting that she is a pretty terrible person to herself...she reminds me of Great Gatsby's Daisy. Not sinister on that level but reminds me anyway.

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You are so right about her and the path of destruction she leaves behind: it’s not only JW. In a previous episode when she visit the company she kept repeating to he (I suppose) former boss “I’m not as I used to be”. I don’t know how she was before, but she’s still making excuses for herself, she keeps validating her acting and her ways and not giving explanation or even taking care of her business.
For instance: when Geon answered the phone call and said there wasn’t any O3 and that it got wrong... they chased each other as it they were in high school. No talking about: how dare you mess with my job, or even more important... why don’t you keep the phone with you at all times so you don’t miss any call?
I feel she thinks she is someone she clearly isn’t, but having some more information about her background would be very welcome.

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As for the Geon thing, that really was on him. Her business is struggling, and it was clear from the conversation that it wasn't the first time he'd done that. I'd be furious if my friend and the person I allow to live in my house with me, couldn't remember the name of my business. The first time I'd let it go, but this was not the first time.

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“ For a moment, it seems like they might cross paths on the street, but no, this drama wants us to suffer a bit longer.”

😄😄😄 that is exactly what I thought

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Messy and random thoughts:

1. Why Kyung Joon and Rini aren't the main couple? WHY?

2. I don;t dislike Jae Won that much now, Eunho is getting the first place on my "this character is getting on my nerves" list.
Jae Won obssesion is annoying, yeah. He's pathetic and makes me cringe every-single-time-he-oppens-his-motuh. YEAH.
But, I guess he tought "wow, this girl saw that I'm annoying and obssesive, but she still wants to be with me, SHE SAW THAT I'M MORE NEEDY THAN TED MOSBY AND SHE STILL WANTS TO BE WITH ME. SHE'S THE ONE".
...And then Eunho just dumps him. Leaving him lost...
And that's "fine" is there was an actual reason behind. But that's not the case.
I mean, she really thinks she can avoid him forever even tho she's bestie with the people that are closest to him?
And if she could...
then WHY did she go there?

This woman goes to print the pictures to that place he said he was a kind of a regular. I mean, she wanted him to appear there or the ahjussi to reconigze him or something like that.
For me, going there was a statement "I'm here. I still remember you. I haven't move on either". But then she meets him and she runs away. But then she cries over their pictures...
She's worst than Stella.

3. Why Kyung Joon and Rini aren't the main couple? WHY?

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Haha! HIMYM references 🤭🤣 But Ted has his cute and endearing moments though. JaeWon... I still need to see a redeeming quality of his in the coming episodes.

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I have to disagree about Ted, though. He’s in top ten list of most annoying characters in the history of TV. Shares first place with Felicity and Joey, from Dawson Creek.

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I know what you mean.
Even is Ted was a mess with girls, he was a really nice friend. He was a self centered guy, but when it was about his friends he knew how to come out from that bubble. Thats one of the reasons I couldn't hate Ted.

The other one is because he grow up and he relized how annoying he was. By the way he tells the stories to his kids we can see that he changed.

But Jae Won... he's 100% self centered with 0% signs of remorse.

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The Ted Mosby reference is so accurate! They are both so annoying 😂😂😂
But you have a point: he showed her his true self at all time, never pretending to be different, while she..:

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I think she needs to get her stuff together and decides what the hell she wants and what is she going to do about all these, because the mix signals she just gave him these episodes are going to end up killing this guy or something.

He won't move on until she gives him some answers.

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HAHAHHA - I was just thinking this whole show has a HIMYM vibe (except here the audience knows who the "mother" is and no one in the show does). I hope the ending is not as disappointing as the ending of HIMYM was. Yes, I do think we should JW give the benefit of the doubt, whereas it is harder to see Enho's logic. Yes, it wasn't the real her he met, and yes, she's known to his friends. But wouldn't that actually give her some reason to have come clean to her friends right away, knowing that they would support her if she had said the truth ("hey guys, so I just got back from the vacation, and this is weird...the guys I met is Rui's Bf's cousin! What a small world" hahaha). She should have atleast trusted that Geon and Rini would be on her side. I am predicting that by the time Eunho comes clean she would lose JW and also her friends. And I wouldn't blame them!

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The final season of HIMYM is what caused me to give up on American Television.

And everything that you said about Eun-oh's lack of logic is spot on- and yes her friends would have helped. I am fairly sure that Jae-won would have initially been upset but also he would have gotten over it- and hopefully have realized that it would make sense to get to know her all over again.

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I find your take fascinating and feel like I can relate. I found HIMYM to be a great show, but the epitome of what's wrong with American television: looking to be bloated, going on forever with seemingly no aim. HIMYM was even unique in that it had a specified end game in mind, and it may have even be remembered better for it, but they got greedy and overstayed their welcome.

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Tbh I'm still waiting for the REAL reason she broke up with him, because I just can't accept her reasons to dump him after what they did those two months is that lame ass excuse called "my friends don't know".
Was she thinking of lyting to him forever? They got "married", but she wasn't going to introduce her friends to him?
She tought "yeah, lets go back to Seoul, but I'm going to keep the secret about my real identity forever"?

I just want to know what was she thinking becuse so far she doesn't makes sense.
Oh, and she doesn't sounds like "the mother", for me she's Stella, or worse.

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Absolutely agreed with you, Eun-Oh’s reason doesn’t make any sense. Her face doesn’t have any expression except the anxious look witn eyes wide open either. She doesn’t even talk when she is supposed to. That’s hard to watch. Partly because of the poorly written character, partly because of the actress KJW?

But after watching ep 9 today, I am finally able to accept the fact that there is that female lead who is not confident with her true self, that is understandable, but even worse, does not show any character development yet. We must all know someone like that IRL, but we wouldn’t want to see it on screen, would we?

Btw, JCW is sort of very loud in this drama, very unlike his previous characters.

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Why Kyung Joon and Rini aren't the main couple? Because if they are main couple, it would very boring to watch. They are sweet and cute, but lacks of conflicts and mystery to solve. Maybe 5 mins each episode on them would be more than enough for me.

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Sun-young is so toxic, she is borderline psycho. Forcing her boyfriends to strip on the street in the middle of winter and in a police station? She does not deserve love. Geon is a masochist if he gets back together with her (again), and I would judge him.

Jae-won and Eun-oh had a whirlwind romance to the point of marriage, then she ghosted him. No wonder he has no closure. Rin-yi is dense to not know Kyung-joon's feelings when he was almost stalking her.

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Lack of closure is right.

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eazal strikes again. Fan girling to the max. hyping JCW acting Hats off to you. You are foing a great Job!.

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After some time with these characters, they all looks kinda crazy... Rin Yi and Kang Geon seems pretty normal but the fact Kang Geon just accepted to give his clothe like that...

In the last episode, there was no monologues to the camera anymore. I missed it.

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Sailorjumin I agree that it is time for Jae-won to discover the truth because he really is all alone. The callous remark made by his co-worker about his being a drunk just because he got dumped by a girl really demonstrated how alone he is. No one sees his pain- and he truly is in pain. With no support from friends how is he to get over it?

As for Eun-oh- I really do not like her at all. I actually hope that Jae-won can finally really confront her - and get his cameras back. And his heart with them. He deserves real closure- and she deserves to see his back as he walks away. She is a fool who does not understand the value of love. He needs to meet a woman who does- because he certainly does.

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At this point I dont want our main couples to even get back together. They are definitely toxic with each other. And it's even more frustrating to to see KJW's character going at extreme lengths to hide the truth. I feel bad for JaeWon even when the charcter is whiny and impulsive because he truly deserves a closure. And I wonder why did she even start something if she can't face its consequences like a mature adult? She knows he needs a closure and still stubborn enough to not give any explanation. She is really a coward and she has not even given a legit reason for her behaviour.... I dont know how makers are gonna make her character likeable coz the character is definitely so frustrating to watch. I love KJW but definitely not Eun oh.

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I don't agree they are toxic with each other comment. At lease for Jaw-won, it is not. After what she did to him, he is still thinking what i did wrong, where is she, how is she doing. He is still caring about her even though he is hurting. I found this affection so touching that I can fully empathize him and really wish Jae -Won and En-ou can sort everything out and end up being happily ever after. And for En-ou, although I haven't seen a valid reason of the why she treated Jae-Won, deep down I think she still loves him. The leads are supposed to be together, we just wait and see. The plots will get better and better.

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"I find so much in this show ridiculous, but I still want to see the fallout. I deserve to see it, dammit."
My thoughts exactly.*sigh* dammit!

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I can not believe this is the Romance is a bonus book, Discovery of love, Five enough, I need romance series writer. I have not said anything, but I find writing is flat and no real warmth in the characters. It is sad when this writer can do more than this.

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I actually found that the romance between the main characters in FIVE ENOUGH was flat. What was great was the two side romances, especially Golfer Couple.

But ROMANCE IS A BONUS BOOK was exceptional- and maybe the problem is that the writer rushed into this new project too soon after that and is burned out.

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I loved the Shin Hye Sun and Sung Joon couple in Five Enough. But Romance is a Bonus Book I adore. The writing is so off here.

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Such an aimless drama :)

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Eun-Oh’s behaviors are like a 15 year-old girl’s, who is having identity crisis and doesn’t know her self-worth. It’s frustrating to watch.

I did expect more from a drama that has JCW as the male lead.

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High expectations after "Healer", huh? I'm with you there. He is definitely in my top five actors with Healer being my all-time favorite drama. But I've been really struggling to stick with JCW since his return from the military. His choices have been so unfortunate. I support this newer direction of his to be the rom-com king, but well written rom-coms exist, and I know he still has his pick of them, so I truly wonder what is going on. Still love him, but I had a lot hanging on this drama.

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I see some people are saying it is slow and boring but not all dramas
need to have a typical catchy plot. This one is literally just following
individuals as they navigate through love/relationships and hearing their diverse opinions about it.

I just finished watching ep 8- each episode that goes by makes me more confused to why eun oh is behaving this way. Her reasons for staying away is so ridiculous to me at this point, I hope there's more to it. JCW and KJW scene at the restaurant was superb...really heart wrenching. Man... wookie really pulled me into his suffering..what a brilliant actor.

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what a brilliant actor - yes. He's so good. His timing is everything.

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Seriously? Seriously! Are we expected to believe that this woman spent six weeks in a caravan with one of the most beautiful men in the world and there could be ANY POSSIBLE REASON that makes any sense whatsoever that she is ducking out of meeting him??? I mean, if she turns out to be a psychopathic homicidal maniac who is avoiding him because she doesn't want to end up killing him................I might be a little more understanding if that was the case......... I tell you what, this man needs a decent manager to stop putting him in these half-assed dramas which are ridiculous. I mean, a melting man, and now a half-witted female lead? Sorry, I'm out! After Healer and Suspicious Partners, I thought he was so terrific I'd be happy to watch him shelling peas, but OH DEAR HE DOESNT HALF PICK IDIOTIC dramas. GOODBYE beautiful JCW hopefully we will meet again when you pick something that requires an IQ of more than 50.

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That would actually be an interesting story. I've been saying that it is perfectly fine if Eun-oh is a horrible wench because not every main character needs to be an angel, but they do need to follow somebody's reason. And she's simply not. The show is trying to redeem her and failing supremely. They're trying to show us these sad saps as if to say, "see, they're sad, just like you!" And I'm all, "naw, y'all are choosing to stay on the struggle bus and I got off a long time ago."

I love JCW too, but you also forgot a hopeless convenience store owner with an insanely written racist best friend. So isn't it third strike, you're out? Sigh, I know I'm still going to give him another chance.

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JCW always has another chance from me :”>

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If you dislike him playing romcom, just wait until he rotates his project genre choice to ones that interests you. For me, since his acting is so good and vivid, I find myself always can hook on to his characters.

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The psychopathic homicidal maniac would have been an interesting plot I should say.

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I started out both hating Eun-oh/Sun-ah's character (both identities) and being convinced that her motivations as a character were unconvincing. But as I think it through now, perhaps there is some truth in it. Thinking it through: She's afraid of being rejected because she's a different person than the one she projected on holiday. As beanies have already said, how many people have done that: gone away on a holiday and taken on a different identity that you look back on with embarrassment? She's clearly stuck: she's comfortable with her friends and her "real identity" as Eun-oh, but she actually wanted to get away from that identity and take on a more carefree hippy girl, Sun-ah's identity. The ramifications of that choice have been deeply damaging to Jae-won, and she finds herself living a lie that she is running away from.

Thing is, can someone in rl do this: be so embarrassed about being "someone else" that you could not bear for the two worlds to come together and be prepared to sacrifice someone you developed an intimate relationship with and hurt them deeply?

I couldn't do it. I'd have to fess up. I couldn't hurt someone I cared about that much. Would I be prepared to run the risk of rejection? Would I want to get in first and reject before I got rejected? Yes and No. I wouldn't want to be rejected, but the chance is that he won't do that because he really loves her. And people who reject before they get rejected are despicable and cowardly IMO.

So I've come full circle and reasoned myself in a circle from hating her and thinking she's an unconvincing badly written character to thinking that perhaps she's convincing in rl, to getting back to thinking her motivations are despicable. Everything depends on where she goes from now.

It all brings me to a grumbling issue: the representation of women in k-drama. I fall whole heartedly for the MLs but find many of the women irritating in so many ways I'm going to have to write more about it to sort out my thoughts.

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To me, her character is poorly written. We've have passed half of the show and her motivations are still a mystery to all of us, so even if I try to understand both EunAh and SunOh I can't, and that drives me away for her and I don't think when the big revelation comes I could care a little bit for her. I just hope writer doesn't go for the Happy Ever After ending for obvious reasons.
And as for the last part of your comment, whenever you want to talk about the representation of women in Kdrama, I'll gladly enjoy the conversation.
I know I'm an European independent single woman who knows her background is not that of an average SK woman. I know that. But even so. I feel your irritation.

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I'm keeping notes as I go and I've got a bit to say that is really narky. One issue that bothers me is how older women bear the burden of evil in so many dramas. But that's just one issue. I'll write it this week.

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For once, I don’t want a happily ever after ending. I just want them to talk and then part ways. For the better.

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I want her to learn to love herself, face him with her head high and give them a closure.

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as a kdrama loving ahjussi, i'm the complete opposite and fall for many of the women but find many of the men irritating in so many ways haha.🤭 so i'm looking forward to reading your writing to find out what's wrong with me, psychoanalyze my perception of women.

with that said, this show's lead woman is indeed too much. your description of your "eunoh journey" was exactly the same as mine: annoyance -> possibly relatable? (after all, we've all been down and out and wanted to escape our real lives for a bit) -> annoyance/possibly hate (all she had to do was give more explanation. even a lie would've been better than what she did!). she makes MPDG zooey D from 500 days of summer feel like a saint.

and as @eazal wrote, it's almost too late for the "big reveal" or redemption arc (unless there's a season 2, dear lord). the character of eunoh is so badly written, i'm almost hate watching to figure out why kim jiwon even took this role, as kdrama is ultimately supposed to be marketing rocket fuel for the actors and actresses.

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I've been afraid of a possible season 2 since this series was announced. I too am puzzled why KJW took this role, unless I'm missing nuances due to my limited understanding of Korean. I know that Netflix subs aren't the best and often change the subtle meaning.

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My goodness, so you fall for the women. This will be interesting. Maybe it's all so much smarter than I'm giving it credit for??

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hahaha, no it's me. i'm the weird one that needs a talking down on the LitC women (i was speaking more in general kdrama terms but still haha). just finished ep9 and i'm back to liking the show again (not eunoh necessarily) but the show hahaha. i think the show is an allegory on modern dating. i will pontificate in the next weecap. hope to see you there (to tell me i'm crazy for sympathizing the women)!🤭

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I can't disagree with the idea of it being an allegory on modern dating. But the news is not good if it's representative of women. (To the writer 😤😤😤)

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Late to chime in. I was reluctant to give this drama ago so only started it last night. Then I binged all the 8 episodes and am eagerly waiting for more.

I am surprised at how much flak Eun-oh is getting! I actually love KJW in this and can empathise with the character. I totally understand the criticism that she is immature in her handling of the break-up and not considerate of Jae-won, but I find that real life romantic relationships can often end in a messy way. From her perspective, she needed some time to get away from her suffocating 'real world' and Jae-won provided her with an escape from that. I think they both got what they wanted from each other during the vacation, the only difference was that Jae-won wanted to bring the relationship back to Seoul, while Eun-oh was happy to leave things as they were.

Sure, Jae-won needs closure, but Eun-Oh just wants to leave the vacation fling behind her. I personally don't think that she 'owes' him any explanations if she's not comfortable with meeting him again. Sure, an explanation may help Jae-won to move on (though maybe not, from what we've seen of his lovesickness), but what's in it for Eun-oh?

I guess I'm a minority, but I love this show! I personally don't mind Jae-won and Eun-oh ending up together, but I would need to see a huge amount of character growth on both sides. From the first half of the drama, their personalities and attachment styles seem ill-suited for a serious romantic relationship.

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Theres a feel that JW is annoying and I get hes being tok much at times because he irrationally was reaaally into someone he just met but I get where hes coming from... he didnt even get to say goodbye to his love story/crush/infatuation or at least know why she said they couldnt be together... on the other hand, Her narrative is weird because she said she let him go to prevent his friends from knowing she invented a persona but if they didnt have friends in common then what?? im yet to hear she at least intended to tell him the truth at some point to not make him suffer... she said it herself that all she did was intentional and idk if its the writer's fault or its EO's faulty thinking to not consider telling the truth even know... I hope they dont drag this to the point Ill get mad at EO and they reach the point of no return because rn, her running at the very sight of him making him relive all that happened without closure and feeling his suffering is a joke -even when shes alone too with her heartbreak-, its making me feel ge unfairness JW feels...!

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Okay, but can someone tell me the song Jiwon and the other 3 characters jammed to in episode 7? I'm dyinggg to know the title of the song

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