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May It Please the Court: Episodes 3-4 (Drama Hangout)

Behold, your weekly Drama Hangout! We might not be covering this drama, but that doesn’t mean there shouldn’t be a place to talk about it, whether that’s squealing with excitement or piling on the analysis.

This thread is exclusively for this week’s episodes and anything prior, so let’s try to keep it as a place to chat about what’s aired — not spoil future plot points for unsuspecting eyes.

 
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I like some parts of the story & acting, other parts make me want to tell the writer to go fly a kite.

Camera keeps lingering on wristwatches, beating us over the head with their significance, but that doesn't have much impact on those of us who think all watches are the same and just don't give a hoot.

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hahaha i love that watch comment

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Despite being assaulted by the watches though 😁 I'm really enjoying the drama. I'm loving Chakhees character development and also the flashbacks to how she became who she is. She doesn't even believe herself to be a good person. I did think that her apologising to GiDo for being in the car with Cho was uncharacteristic, she could have said what occurred, but then that would have cleared things up I guess. JS is still a bit of a blank slate, I'm hoping we get a little more insight into him in future episodes.

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Thank you for this drama hangout! 🎉 I can’t believe how excited I am about this show. It just hits so many different spots for me and, by now, I (almost) don’t care if there’s actually a love line happening between our two exceptional leads because I simply enjoy watching them so much. To be clear: I couldn’t care less about the murder mystery or the question of whether Shi-baek has a more sinister side to him. For me, it’s all about the two leads’ dynamic that has me cackling throughout, the political scheming, the court proceedings, and Chak-hee getting a humbling dose of reality here and there.

- Episode 3: I would have loved more insight into what factors determine whether people with mental disabilities go to prison or are institutionalized. Was there ever any real chance for Chak-hee’s plan to actually succeed? Doesn’t seem to be the case because Shi-baek was set on that prison sentence from the start. And he would know.

Still, I liked Chak-hee’s visit to Mom and the fact that she genuinely tried to connect with the defendant. She’s opening herself up to this new world against her dog-eat-dog preconceptions, slowly learning to accept her new reality, and I can only applaud the effort of wanting to do—and, even more importantly, be—better. While I don’t think that she’s a bad person (in my experience, the real baddies are usually way less self-aware), it’s good to see her reconnect with parts of her own humanity from time to time while still remaining her fabulous, opportunistic self.

Personal highlight of the episode: The detective shipping Chak-hee/Shi-baek because it made for a more compelling “story”. I feel you, my dude. Especially with that hug cliffhanger at the end which I choose to read as a tongue-in-cheek acknowledgment of typical K-drama tropes.

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- Episode 4: Let me list all the stuff that I found extremely enjoyable: The Chak-hee flashbacks. Shi-baek being a total BAMF in the face of that creep and wage thief. Chak-hee being simultaneously worried and snarky when it came to his non-existent injuries afterward. (That entire exchange was priceless!) Shi-baek knowing sign language and a sign language interpreter being available at the trial. The prosecutor’s absolutely brutal argument that anything but a severe punishment for Mom would only teach the son to be a criminal. (It’s obviously a terrible, prejudiced line of thinking but I understand why he would use it to make his case.) The intricacies of the case: First, the appeal to change the indictment, then the spontaneous Chak-hee filibuster, and, of course, the sympathetic judge.

Personal highlight(s) of the episode: The carpool scene in which Chak-hee suggests finding her a car if Shi-baek doesn’t want to deal with her anymore. We love a gutsy female lead who’s able to delegate important tasks. First, Mr. Do (at least he’s getting paid), now Shi-baek. And: One more shipper in our midst. Please, show, if there’s no romance to be had, let this become a running gag.

Things I didn’t like:
- Shi-baek almost seems too good to be true. I just want to know more without constantly having him shoved into the convenient role of a knight in shining armor.

- I feel that they should have been going for a mute POV with subtitles instead of voicing the mom’s dialogue in the flashback. That kind of broke my immersion. Then again, I understand why it might have been a deliberate choice to better communicate her feelings of despair during that moment. I just think that, on a meta-level, it would have been really powerful not to make this scene more accessible to a hearing audience.

Last but not least: I’m guessing that the motive for the murders might be the pollution of drinking water and that’s where that one man’s neurological problems stem from. It could also be the reason why the killer chooses to drown these men.

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Sorry for being spammy but I absolutely forgot to address the cliffhanger of episode 4: Clearly, they didn’t have sex. That would be too easy. Plus, if they were to ever sleep together, it wouldn’t happen with one of them being under the influence as that only cheapens what the show has built between them so far. Why develop the two as begrudging allies if growing, mutual affection doesn’t explicitly factor into a (potential) physical relationship?

My guess is: Chak-hee got sloppy drunk and made a mess. The wet pants are hers. She’s wearing Shi-baek’s shirt because her top was a lost cause. The real mystery, to me, is why Shi-baek is looking so sober in every sense of the word. If it went down like I think it did, he would have all the reason to mercilessly tease her. Or maybe it’s a setup and he intentionally hung those wet pants up above her head in order to wake her? Another good reason might be the news of the second killing but it seems unrealistic that it would be all over the news after the first murder was already quietly kept out of the papers. Wouldn’t the police take some time to investigate a hypothetical serial killer lead before announcing anything to the press?

The more the show keeps teasing Shi-baek as the potential killer (he only has an alibi for the time frame they were in public / Chak-hee can remember), the less I think that he’s actually involved. However, it seems likely for him to become a suspect later on with Chak-hee defending him.

Whatever the case, I’m already pumped for next week. 🤗

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It's ironic that while Chak-hee's long time in Jangsan taught her a lot about the blase way privileged people treated the law, those experiences were largely "sterile". It's only now during her time as a public defender that she finally got in touch with her human emotion in her line of job. It's time for her to learn about the reality of the sometimes harsh and unfair law, about not-so-black-and-white situation.

I like that while the message the drama wanted to carry across wasn't anything new or groundbreaking, it was told through an amusing mix of lighthearted approach and some wacky sequences. It was new and interesting. Now, if only we can make sure that our resident weirdo prosecutor wasn't a vigilante in disguise, that would be perfect.

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I really like this drama, but I'm so frustrated with Hulu. This is the first time I've watched a drama on that platform, but it's so difficult to turn on the subtitles (which I have to do after every other episode for some reason), and then once I have them on, they're often lagging behind. It kills me because I do enjoy the snappy writing, comedy, and unflappable FL, but I haven't yet been able to get through episode 3 because of Hulu issues :(

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The more apparent clues we get that Si-baek is the killer, the less I believe it.

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Same here. Plus: Why would Shi-baek hang up his murder pants where Chak-hee can immediately see them?

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After the somewhat brutal murder in last week's episode, I had doubts as to whether or not I'd enjoy this week's episodes, but I'm glad I did thanks to the awesome character backstory for Chak-hee and us getting to see her thawing from her Dark Lord persona. The fun interactions between Chak-hee and Shi-baek were like the cherry on top.

As to the identity of the killer, this week's episode seems to want us to believe that the killer is Gi-do (what with him having the same watch in Episode 3 and him asking the new victim their location in Episode 4). But that seems too overt as hints, so I do wonder if that is also the show misdirecting us.

If the killer had been Shi-baek, I would have thought that he'd go after the pervy guy (who shockingly turned out to be the son of the murder victim — I did not see that one coming). I did wonder about the killer choosing to drown the victim at (what looks like) the same water hazard where that scumbag showed his utter lack of concern about injuring his caddy.

I now find myself looking forward to next week's episodes.

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Oh and I forgot to mention — what's up with the restaurant which makes dumplings the way Chak-hee's grandmother used to make them? Is there a plot thread to be explored there? Could the older man be Chak-hee's father and they just don't realize it? Also, why does the other man who works at the restaurant seem to be in mental decline?

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Argh, had one more thought – is Ha-ran having an affair? What's up with her and Dae-Hyun — the guy who brushed his fingers against hers in Episode 3 as he was leaving Gi-do's office?

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At this point it's safe to say that another member of the Jang household will be done away with next week. And it doesn't help that both men were total douchebags, in the most perfect irredeemable sense of it.

Tease me all you want I'm not suspecting Jwa Si-baek. All of this will turn out to be red herrings.
And it does help that even though I don't suspect Ki-do for the murder last week, I suspect him for this one. And talking about Ki-do, I love his dynamic with his wife and her's with him. Kim Hye-eun does know how to characterize such frictions amongst couples and she does it to the exact t here, just as she did a good job in TR-TOO. I do hope she doesn't get typecasted. I miss the sweet supportive lady I met it in Encounter/Boyfriend.

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