Open Thread #191
by javabeans
Wow, you guys totally rocked the OT last week. Color me impressed. Will you top it this week? I wonder…
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101 nadoka
June 11, 2011 at 9:19 AM
1000 comments ... OT ROCKS THIS WEEK
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102 Celexa
June 11, 2011 at 12:35 PM
I go to sleep for 8 hours and the thread hits over 1K posts?
I'm not sleeping next Friday, I'm staying awake for the whole party!
Happy Saturday Morning everyone!
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Viola
June 11, 2011 at 12:47 PM
Happy Saturday Morning to you too, Celexa! :)
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Celexa
June 11, 2011 at 1:27 PM
Thank you Viola... did you get any sleep?
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Viola
June 11, 2011 at 2:23 PM
yes, I did! Almost 10 hours worth! :P
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samgetang
June 11, 2011 at 3:36 PM
haha, celexa! it sure was one big sleep-depriving, eye-bag errr eye-luggage-inducing, adrenaline-pumping parteeeee...some even resorted to banging cymbals to stay awake...and there was a bunch back there that came down hard by soju-drinking, there was even a battle of the heights of their idols, and ramen-eating-spree-while-on-roller-coasters stuff...my damaged memory cant take everything in :-)
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Viola
June 11, 2011 at 3:48 PM
Samgetang, you forget to mention the epic battle of succession between our Royal Highness, and Queenscircle, his estranged sister from another kingdom!
And there was an honest to god serious, discussion, about LVADs and heart surgery, and I am sure I forgot a few things! :P
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samgetang
June 11, 2011 at 3:55 PM
whew! thanks for helping me out, viola. imagine taking in all those 1000+ comments...its like reading one thick volume of crazy trivia generously peppered with all the abs-worshiping squeals, assorted special fx and kaleidoscopic visual stimulation...
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izzie
June 12, 2011 at 8:22 AM
"abs-worshiping squeals, assorted special fx and kaleidoscopic visual stimulation…"
woah. Just reading that gives me a headache. :(
I hope those don't include glittery-flickery things.
samgetang
June 12, 2011 at 8:26 AM
no sparkly tracksuits now to divert us...unless you count Ah Jung's father's knock-offs in Best Love ;-)
izzie
June 12, 2011 at 8:32 AM
I can handle that. Just don't show me speedos covered in sequins and I'mma be fine. :) Esp. when they're not on Dokko Jin or The Hand Towel. Or *gasp* The Moon.
ricky the royal highness
June 11, 2011 at 9:57 PM
I'm pretty sure the battle was one-sided :)
And the spectators were more excited than actual battling kingdoms *cough* MJPandViolaandpopcorn *cough*
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samgetang
June 12, 2011 at 5:58 AM
hahaha, you are so right, ricky-ssi. the spectators had as much, if not more, fun than the warring kingdoms, hahaha!
103 Elllen
June 11, 2011 at 12:38 PM
Wow! 1,035 comments!
Just watched New tales of Gisaeng ep 40. Perfect! So good, it woke me up! I thought I'd just have a peek, sleepy at 3am, the surprises got me watching on. Dashing Damo...happy episode.
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104 blueceramic
June 11, 2011 at 1:06 PM
Has anyone seen the Adjustment Bureau?
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Shiku
June 11, 2011 at 4:46 PM
I tried watching it but fell asleep but i woke up in time to see the ending
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tinpra
June 11, 2011 at 5:57 PM
Saw it in free previews. I wasn't impressed and glad I didn't pay money for it. I'm sure some ppl will feel it is Very Deep, but while it had potential I thought it was kinda lame. On the other hand, it did spark a lot of conversation betw. me and Mom for a few weeks as new ideas concerning the movie and our own beliefs kept popping up.
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blueceramic
June 12, 2011 at 9:33 AM
I feel like they could've done a lot better than the magic hats and doors and it's kinda silly if you really think about it. But the overall message is pretty thought-provoking.
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105 Schmazel
June 11, 2011 at 3:13 PM
Okay, so I haven't started watching City Hunter yet, but I just watched Love Actually (yes *just*. I'm not really a movie buff) and realised that the cute white boy in the photos from Thailand is Sam, the little boy in the movie. Never knew! Hahah.
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ahjummabunny
June 11, 2011 at 4:33 PM
wow really? wasn't he the little boy in august rush too? I loved love actually! I loved love actually! I also really like hugh grant's work. mentioning love, actually is making sad about the poor excuses for rom-coms we get these days.
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Schmazel
June 11, 2011 at 5:18 PM
Well, I don't see his name listed as a cast member but he really really really looks like him, whose name btw, is Thomas Sangster.
Speaking of rom-coms, I'm a total sucker for them. The last one I watched in the cinema was Valentines Day, which is very similar to Love, Actually. Another which has a similar flow is He's Just Not That Into You.
But yeah, Hollywood rom-com plot lines are just like the tropes we often see on KDramas. I love them all the same but I would like to see something fresh, for once. Any recommendations?
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Schmazel
June 11, 2011 at 5:23 PM
Oh and I forgot to say: I absolutely *heart* the love story between Aurelia and Jamie. And the part where Sarah is hugged by her brother opened my floodgate of tears.
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ahjummabunny
June 11, 2011 at 7:56 PM
the thomas sangster is not the august rush guy. I haven't seen city hunter yet it's premiering in two weeks. I read the first two episodes to see if I would watch it though. Unfortunately I can't recommend too many modern romances. I really love Once but the ending FITS but isn't necessarily happy. I can possibly recommend a million rom-coms from 1930 to 1955 I think those from '56 onwards were too conscious, maybe even realistic. Sorry, I like my pictures to be fantastic. I think anything made during war time america is just the thing.
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Schmazel
June 11, 2011 at 9:44 PM
Really? Must go look for vintage rom-coms then. Oh and I was referring to the cast list of City Hunter in my previous post.
I'm not sure if you've read this post on DB, but here's the link: http://www.dramabeans.com/2011/04/lee-min-ho-on-location-for-city-hunter/
He really looks like TS, no? :D
106 ahjummabunny
June 11, 2011 at 4:48 PM
ahjummainjava where are you? let's be friends!
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Schmazel
June 11, 2011 at 5:27 PM
I think there's a Programmer Ahjumma around these parts too. ;)
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107 Shiku
June 11, 2011 at 4:48 PM
I missed out on OT this week but am impressed ao many comments and its only evening
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108 janna
June 11, 2011 at 5:03 PM
"If we hole up, I wanna be somewhere familiar, I wanna know where the exits are, and I wanna wifi hotspot to watch kdramas."
I'm almost done reading all the comments. Almost.
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Celexa
June 12, 2011 at 1:09 PM
janna... i love this quote! where did you get it?
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janna
June 12, 2011 at 4:02 PM
It's a quote from Shaun of the Dead, but I edited the last part to say "Wifi hotspot to watch Kdramas" instead of "be allowed to smoke". That's my alternate zombie Apocalypse, aside from "AW MAN, I WANT MY BRAINS EATEN BY _insert zombified kdrama actor_"
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109 Schmazel
June 11, 2011 at 5:28 PM
...And last week's record a broken, smashed and thrown out the window! :D
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Schmazel
June 11, 2011 at 5:29 PM
*is broken
(Sorry, I was too excited to type properly!)
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samgetang
June 12, 2011 at 5:59 AM
schmazel, like how you said it! ;-)
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110 Cynthia
June 11, 2011 at 5:57 PM
1,069?!
Wheeee - Kdrama fans rock!
How much am I loving the "Puuuppppyy" header?! Seung-gi
is total cuteness. Let's all PINCH THOSE CHEEKS!!
Here's an new observation from my camp.
It's a question that comes up in almost EVERY Kdrama.
WHAT THE HECK IS WITH ALL THOSE STUFFED TOYS?!?!
They're everywhere. Even my beloved City Hunter has been invaded. Nana's apartment is riff with them and to add insult to injury, while watching LMH packing his suitcase to move to Nana's, what do I see behind him?!
An ENORMOUS, HARVEY-SIZED rabbit. What the hey is with the Korean fascination for these dust-collectors?
Seriously, the only one I ever appreciated was the giant, stuffed chicken leg that the Gumiho got from her (and our!) sweetie!
Answers? Anybody??
:) :) :0
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Linda
June 12, 2011 at 1:20 AM
well.. obviously, the stuff toys are the best tools a production teams could come up with that is affordable and space consuming to make the set look more 'homey' and less empty. They were probably running low on money for the set so they decided 'why not fill the walls with stuffed toys? and maybe all the crazy fans with a sharp eye would take notice and go buy these stuffed toys and we can get some money out of the companies for 'indrect advertisement' " ;)
OR it could incidentally be that even the toughest of characters or the baddest of the bad asses need something to cuddle up with at night ;) besides brownie points for having cute actors situated next to a cute stuffed toy :) case in point.. the pig rabbit :D
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Cynthia
June 12, 2011 at 7:31 AM
Pig-rabbit. Heh. Over at DramaFever, they posted a pic of a cake someone brought in for the staff - and it was a Pig-Rabbit cake.
You're right - I didn't stop to think about the reasons for the cheap set-dressing. So, it's like product placement here in the U.S.?
I find it rather off-putting because (to me) it's babyish and distracting - cause now I'm fixating on looking for them in scenes instead of concentrating on the action...bah!
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Linda
June 12, 2011 at 8:40 AM
A pig rabbit cake? :O that is just too awesome! I never took a huge notice of them before till now, consider my glass shattered (HIMYM)!
HAHAHAHAHS your fixation means its working!! Their cheap way of advertising is succeeding LOL
But about dramafever.. it doesn't work in Australia :( And the sad thing is Viki no longer works here either!
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Cynthia
June 12, 2011 at 3:27 PM
You're in Australia?!
THROW SOME SHRIMP ON THE BARBIE, MATES!!
***hand-rub - sorry,sorry,sorry***
Couldn't resist! :)
No DramaFever or Viki for you? That's the royal screw-over!
Just when you think that the information highway is limitless,along comes this. Do you get DramaCrazy or Mysoju? I know that DramaFever added a bunch of dramas to Hulu. Get that?
111 lost soul
June 11, 2011 at 6:02 PM
I don't understand why dramabeans is not putting news about You've Fallen For Me/Heartsrings. I've seen two teasers and a lot promotional stills already. Oh well, maybe dramabeans won't recap it. Haahahahahah
Anyways, just dropping by to say that I LOVE your recaps on 1N2D..you guys rock!
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112 tinpra
June 11, 2011 at 7:18 PM
Since it looks like we're still jumping, even on the third page (woohoo!) I think I can ask these two verrrry small favors and be confident of getting at least one response. *crosses fingers anyway*
I can't remember who, but last week someone mentioned how they became drama-addicted and many of us added our own stories to the thread. Or maybe it was the week before. My brain, she does not remember so well. Anywho, that made me wonder (in a very circuitous way) how everyone came to be here, at Dramabeans. I was trying to get into Revenge of the Gumiho by looking up what a gumiho was. I thought it was a fox, but all my fox-mythology was Native American and African American centered. So I did some research...and ended up here :) Of course the entry was for My Girlfriend is a Gumiho, but that's not important.
So how did you guys end up on DB?
And for my second request: I need female Korean names. Whole names, including family names. I do this on occasion when I'm stuck for a name for a character; I'll ask ppl I know to just give me a list of names. When I find one that fits, I'll know. It'll just work. Until then I'll keep picking up and putting down names until I can hardly remember which char is which. Baby name sites are sometimes helpful, but not so much with the Korean names this time :(
So, please, any and every Korean name you can think of...throw'em at me! Laundry lists are gold. I'm also tempted to look for English names, too, so if you're feeling up to that as well (the Korean name is more important) I won't be upset :)
But, really, how did you find DB?
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Celexa
June 11, 2011 at 7:28 PM
How did I find DB?? omo I don't even remember... but I do know this...
When I did find dramabeans... it was like the clouds parted and angelic harp music played in the background as vibrant sun rays shed light on my KDrama addiction.
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attheairport
June 11, 2011 at 7:46 PM
hehe. you crack me up
but i must confess i felt the same way
JB and GF are kind of a blessing <3
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Shiku
June 11, 2011 at 7:46 PM
I found DB when I was watching the final two episodes of Bad Guy last year. I was so mad at the writers that I had to find someplace to vent
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ahjummabunny
June 11, 2011 at 7:47 PM
but how did you come here? did you google "people who hate bad guy's final two episodes" "place to vent about bad guy"?
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Shiku
June 11, 2011 at 8:41 PM
I think I googled bad guy episode 17 and found the recaps and read the comments. I was happy a lot of people felt the same way that I felt.
But I should have googled your suggestions
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Celexa
June 11, 2011 at 8:52 PM
hahahaha! ahjummabunny I love your focus!!
*desperately trying to remember how i got to DB*
I'm sure i goggled something ... but what????
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tinpra
June 12, 2011 at 6:17 AM
That's right, ahjummabunny...let's keep this thing on track. lol!
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ahjummabunny
June 11, 2011 at 7:46 PM
I was watching the weekend drama definitely neighbors but then stopped paying my cable bill ( cat food is expensive!) and none of the online episodes were subbed. So I googled recaps, definitely neighbors and ended up with dramabeans because the weekly drama schedule is listed and there are recaps. Well of course it wasn't here (definitely neighbors you know). The first two recaps I read were for I am legend, and probably mary stayed out all night. I'm sure many of you have similar stories of being sleep deprived and none of your friends understanding.
Since I'm here, I'm thinking about how the translations/subs are so helpful and unhelpful. I'm watching Royal Family now and ji hoon is being referred to as young man but the subs say you/your. I'm going crazy because I'm trying to translate it literally while watching but I'm addicted to pronouns. I'm generally of the opinion that english is a bad language we should be haughtier or less familiar with others, but I also don't want to go around saying things like thou and thee. I wish to be able to properly speak a korean sentence in english without thinking I'm doing something wrong. I also wish to stop thinking of korean in terms of english.
Is it possible?
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tinpra
June 12, 2011 at 6:20 AM
I think one of the signs of really being fluent in another language is that you don't translate in your head. You just think in the other language. You totally switch, y'know? My music teacher is Eastern European and has done this so well betw his native language and English that he's actually not a good translator! I know, random right?
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samgetang
June 12, 2011 at 7:15 AM
I do that with English, too (not my first or native language). Wish I could do that with Mandarin Chinese and Korean, too. And Spanish and French as well (which I learned in school).
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MsScorpion
June 14, 2011 at 5:09 AM
Me too, English is not my native language and whenever I'm in a position to translate from my native language to English or Vice Versa I'm at such a loss, I keep telling people I understand the word but I can't get a meaning for it in the other language
ricky the royal highness
June 12, 2011 at 7:55 AM
I speak several languages myself and what Tinpra said it's true. My brain is hot-wired to think in that language whenever I'm speaking in that particular language.
It's fun to be multilingual but when it comes to translating, I'm as slow as the plot development in a bad drama.
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samgetang
June 12, 2011 at 8:02 AM
and you know how slow plot movements get the worst snarky comments and remarks around kdrama afficionados...
likewise...that's why I dont dare dream to help out in the subtitles...the drama has probably ended even before i could get the subs out for the first episode ;-) and Im talking about the 30-episoder...
ricky the royal highness
June 12, 2011 at 8:35 AM
LOL
Min
June 12, 2011 at 11:05 AM
hmmm I don't know, I might be one of the older (in time spent following not age) readers since I remember having Haunted? Stalked? Staked? Javabean's blog back in the day and then continued on to the website. Back then I didn't comment, or anything though I did read a lot, and I tended to ignore OT because I was very focused on only dramas and related info - Also back then I was still in my teens, can you believe it? haha So yeah I used to feel intimidated by my unnies... hahaha
I can't quite remember how I came to find JB but I remember that it was a result of me being on a rebound - haha I used to be a major j-drama fan with the occasional K-pop (DBSK, SJ ) and k-drama sneaking in to my to-watch list (Stairway to Heaven, Tree of Heaven, etc).
But yeah I had watched too much JDrama at the time so I was looking around for something new something that wasn't as tear jerking sad as a lot of the J-drama's tended to be at the time and I found JB who blogged and ranted and shared info about less melo and more lighthearted dramas and I became addicted... very much so. I haven't gotten fed up with k-dramas or javabeans writing even after all these years :) hahahaha
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Schmazel
June 11, 2011 at 7:52 PM
I found DB when I was looking for the synopsis for a drama. Which drama, I cannot recall, but it was way before DB had its own website and all...maybe about 5 years or so ago?
I used to only read the recaps and ignore the comments below, and even the OT...can you believe that?! Hahah. But I discovered the fun on the OT a year ago it was only this year that I crossed from being a lurker to posting comments. :D
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MJP
June 11, 2011 at 9:16 PM
Here it is:
Hulu told me about ViiKii
Viikii told me about Dramabean
Dramabean told me about Dramabeans
All this to get and keep updated on my first ever Korean drama, Playful Kiss, August 2010.
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amberscube
June 12, 2011 at 1:54 AM
MJP, how many dramas have you seen since August. Seems like you are a pro already. I just started June 2010. I have watched about 19 kdramas and 3 tdramas. Mostly rom-coms.
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tinpra
June 12, 2011 at 1:54 PM
All you guys make me feel so slow! I can still count all my dramas on one hand and it's been a year or more! And my mom calls me addicted...HA!
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ahjummabunny
June 13, 2011 at 12:24 PM
wow really? I've seen at least 51 dramas in their entirety and maybe 5 or 6 I started but didn't finish k-dramas. I've seen 7 j-dramas ( that number surprised me) 1 taiwanese one 1 chinese I've been watching since july or august 2009 I feel embarrassed by that number but I'll make the excuse that most of them were more than 16 episodes. Movies I've seen only one korean movie my wife got married. I didn't even recognize joo sang ook when I saw him again. I also watched a bit of arahan.
tinpra
June 13, 2011 at 6:34 PM
For whatever reason I tend to be a kdrama monogamist. So far I've only watched 1 at a time, albeit fanatically. And life (and other arty pursuits) has gotten in the way, so I don't spend as much time on them as I could. It's hard to watch a drama and post to an RP board and work on fic and read fanfiction simultaneously :s Which really isn't fair. I really, really wish TKC and the other Korean channel would have semi-normal programming, then I could at least do 2 of those things at once.
MJP
June 12, 2011 at 8:13 PM
Okay,
I actually went and did a count of what I could remember. From August 2010 to May 2011.
K/J/C/Tw/Dramas
170
K/J/C/Tw/Movies
58
Please Note: Not everything was watched in it's entirety. If I didn't like it I would stop. If it had boring parts, I would skip them.
In order to do this, I loose sleep... I have had to cut back a bit due to migranes, now alleviated. But I am hoping to cut back even more, but since I am an addict... There are no guarantees.
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tinpra
June 13, 2011 at 9:36 AM
MJP unnie, I don't know whether I'm impressed or scared. Probably some of both. That is amazing. I know who to go to for recommendations when JB and GF aren't handy!
MJP
June 13, 2011 at 11:33 AM
tinpra,
Yeah, I'm not quite sure what to think about my addiction either...
I am currently watching:
Can You Hear My Heart (Sat-Sun)
Drunken To Love You (Sun)
Lie To Me (Mon-Tues)
Baby-Faced Beauty (Mon-Tues)
Sweet Palpitations/Pitipat (Mon thru Fri)
Best Love (Wed-Thurs)
Romance Town (Wed-Thurs)
Love Keeps Going (Sun?) *New*
Secret Garden (I originally started it mid way after reading the DB recaps, so I am starting to watch the beginning episodes now. I am up to and finished Ep 3.)
I ended:
Manny (Finished)
You're So Pretty (Writing not to my liking, acting very good)
Rebound (Poor writing, good acting)
I wasn't going to pick up anything new, but I read about Love Keeps Going on Koala's Playground and got sucked in immediately. Mike He... Oh Baby!!!
So, I really don't want to get into anything new like City Hunter or Miss Ripley. However, ck1Oz has already got me hooked on some up and commers though. Skip Beat/Extravagant Challenge and Scent of a Woman.
Wow, this reply is getting too long and I must get lunch ready as we have places to go and playing to do (toddlers, you know.)
Have a great rest of your day! :-)
MsScorpion
June 14, 2011 at 5:47 AM
WOW MJP,
I'm extremely impressed, but I should second you on trying to cut down, migraines are intolerable and I really hate to hear that you get them.
I get them too and i can tell you it only gets worse, so you REALLY need to cut down that list of 9 DRAMAS AT THE SAME TIME.
Hope you get your fix migraines free.
MJP
June 15, 2011 at 2:04 PM
MsScorpion,
Thanks ever so much for your care and concern. It is greatly appreciated! :-)
ricky the royal highness
June 11, 2011 at 10:03 PM
I found it earlier this year/late last year.
Was looking for Personal Taste recaps (DB does not have it) but was shown news about it instead.
I was hooked when Dream High recaps appeared.
Why do you need the names BTW?
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tinpra
June 12, 2011 at 6:23 AM
In theory I'm writing a fanfic for The Woman Who still Wants to Marry. It takes place during that interstitial period when Ha Min Jae and Lee Shin Young "break up" while she's in Finland. One of the sections of the story involves members of Ha Min Jae's band and the band that's going to be the opener for his concert series. Some of the girls need names. Actually, some of the guys need names, too, now that I think about it.
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ricky the royal highness
June 12, 2011 at 6:31 AM
Wow... I salute you!
When you're done, I wanna be able to read it yeah :)
Hmm here's what I have in my mind now.
Lee Yong Hyun
Kim Min Ah
Or you could just use Yoo In Na,...
Park In Na, Hong In Na, Shin In Na, Jo In Na etc..
I'm not helping, am I? Sorry
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tinpra
June 12, 2011 at 1:55 PM
You seem to have a thing for "In Na," your highness ;P
Actually this kind of list is exactly what I'm looking for. My friends on LJ have gotten used to me asking for name-lists and simply reply with name after name after name.
I also seem to keep coming back to names with "Min" in them. Maybe I should just stop trying to avoid it and let the poor girl have her name.
ricky the royal highness
June 12, 2011 at 6:26 PM
Yoo In Na is my favorite name!
I wanna name my daughter In Na, in fact.
Min is nice. Use it :)
tinpra
June 12, 2011 at 7:18 PM
So let it be written....
Hmmm....In Na the Royal Highness. It has a certain ring to it. I'll keep it in mind for some of the other female characters.
Min
June 12, 2011 at 11:21 AM
Hi there Ricky the Royal Highness! this is my first time saluting our OT Royalty!
sorry about the lack of manners but since I hail from two different lands that separated from their kings because of not wanting to pledge allegiance to a single all powerful ruler I am seriously lacking in courtly manners- I apologize.
Anyways... I am pretty sure that DB does have Personal Taste recaps... they were awesome as usual- (btw how could JB and GF miss out on Minho hotness?) here's the link to the first one:
http://www.dramabeans.com/2010/04/personal-taste-episode-1/
and in this recap list you can find the rest
http://www.dramabeans.com/recaps/
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ricky the royal highness
June 12, 2011 at 6:39 PM
Haha :)
Hello Minnetter :) Nice to finally greet each other.
I don't know a thing about proper court manners. I'm a bad black sheep rebel who makes the King & Queen cough in embarrassment with my inappropriate out-bursts.
You see, I have the memory of a 100-year-old man. But I'm pretty sure I didn't read the Personal taste recaps here in DB.
So that means How Exactly I Discovered Dramabeans remains a mystery. Hmm, interesting...
Oh, and please don't ask me anything about Lee Min Ho. The Speedo of Power might turn me into an evil black magic practitioner and I would start cursing him. Trust me, it happened before! And a certain Viola was unhappy.
Thanks for the links yeah.
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amberscube
June 11, 2011 at 10:53 PM
How did i find DB? I just started watching drama June 2010. It was about July when i was looking for anything about Coffee Prince. I discovered that there was a recap every episode and i enjoyed reading them. I indeed up reading all the recaps instead of watching the drama. Hehehe... It was well written and very witty. Thanks JB, you made my kdrama watching such a delight.
My Girlfriend is a Gumiho was the first kdrama i watched while it was airing in Korea. Waiting and being excited for the recap was the best thing.
The first thing i open every morning other than facebook is Dramabeans.
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MJP
June 12, 2011 at 1:06 AM
tinpra,
All the Korean Girl Names you could ever want.
http://www.hancinema.net/korean_actresses.php
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tinpra
June 12, 2011 at 6:23 AM
Woohoo! MJP unnie, you are made of awesome!
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NN
June 12, 2011 at 8:11 AM
Last year, I got re-introduced to K-drama tro a mobile app on which I caught You're Beautiful. I haven't been following k-dramas or any dramas for that matter since Autumn in My Heart. I got so into You're Beautiful that I was obssessively surfing for more info on the show when I came across DB. Been hooked ever since - check this site at least once a day. I love the way DB and GF write the recaps and commentaries. It's been a great resource, introducing me to other Hong sisters' dramas, as well as classics like Coffee Prince, Bottom of the 9th, 2 outs, What's up Fox.
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izzie
June 12, 2011 at 8:30 AM
If I remember it right, I only discovered DB in the middle of 2010. That's when mysoju wasn't feeding my kdrama obsession enough. So I resorted to searching for recaps.
The first time I joined in with the conversion (a.k.a. un-lurking) was during the airing of Sungkyungkwan Scandal. T'was the Moon that shone the light on me and exposed me to this world of crazy noonas (and oppas) who can't get enough of and talk enough about kdramas.
Ever since, I've been a regular here with a few times of hiatus - to tend to real life. :)
It's like what Hotel California says: "You can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave."
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samgetang
June 12, 2011 at 8:54 AM
same time as izzie to de-lurk here at DB. the moon made me do it. la luna esta muy bien. sungkyunkwan scandal and the jalgeum quartet was to blame for my being sucked into this wonderful world of drama recaps and the incomparable JB and GF and the crazeee and funny noonas and oppas who most times surprise me with their brilliance and powers of induction/deduction and even predictions.
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brookeeve
June 12, 2011 at 12:45 PM
I started reading Dramabeans in November of 2009, when I was teaching and I wanted to know what happened next but I couldn't watch dramas over my lunch break. I can't remember what drama I was watching, but I found the recaps in Dramabeans. I didn't start commenting until July of 2010, and then Lahlita and Viola claimed me as their unnie, and I've been here ever since!
I found Dramabeans through Google.
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MsScorpion
June 14, 2011 at 5:35 AM
I remember coz it wasn't a long time ago, I was watching coffee prince and there was this particular scene that I couldn't understand at all from the subs no matter how many times I read them over and over and I desperately wanted to know what they're saying, so I thought maybe someone out there in the cyber world wrote recaps for the episodes and HALLELUJAH there it was.
DRAMABEANSSSSS,
Ever since I found you, I've been more addicted to you than my addiction to K-DRAMAS. You fill up my life.
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113 Cynthia
June 11, 2011 at 8:24 PM
I found DB when I signed on with DramaFever - it's a link.
I'm addicted to "the snark". One recap reading later, I was hooked!
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ahjummabunny
June 11, 2011 at 10:38 PM
how old is dramafever?
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amberscube
June 11, 2011 at 11:35 PM
Started August 2009.
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114 ricky the royal highness
June 11, 2011 at 9:50 PM
@ ahjummabunny
Yes, bunny. I'm quite a character in reality. I'm not exactly easily forgettable. Which is just a nice way of saying that I'm bonkers, really.
She said she was lurking around in the OT for a few weeks and read all she needed about me. Ricky is my nickname at home and Royal Highness IS my 'title' among friends (friends who said that I'm suuuch a Prince).
Other friends have names like Agent Tattletale, Sister Vigilante, Saint Gut-Less, Master Innocent and Oracle :)
I'm don't have an ounce of blue-blood in me!
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Viola
June 11, 2011 at 10:20 PM
You are our very own Prince Hal, Ricky. :)
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ricky the royal highness
June 11, 2011 at 10:57 PM
and you're our resident celebrity, viola :)
I should give you a nickname. Hmm how about Viola Star? Oh wait, I shouldn't. People might mistake you for Patrick's sister.
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ahjummabunny
June 11, 2011 at 10:35 PM
ha ha. so it is, is it? I like people with friends with cool nicknames. I never nicknamed my friends but I was always nicknamed bugsbunny, bunbake, bunny, bonnie, bonbon, nannygoat (medium story). I think because I was always nicknamed I don't nickname others.
We all have blue blood bio-teacher!
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ricky the royal highness
June 11, 2011 at 11:06 PM
nannygoat is GOOD!
My friends and I adopt nicknames because we want to be stealthy when we chat online. Plus, it's really fun when the nickname and the person fit together like a glove (like Sister Vigilante who is paranoid all the time), but it's more fun when the name doesn't fit (like Master Innocent who plans all manner of schemes but is a master at playing the I'm-not-guilty game)
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samgetang
June 12, 2011 at 7:10 AM
cool! ;-)
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ricky the royal highness
June 12, 2011 at 7:42 AM
Do you want a nickname? Countess Foresight, Lady Luggage-eye, Duchess Snarky are still available. Hehe
samgetang
June 12, 2011 at 7:53 AM
Countess Foresight sounds wise. Duchess Snarky sounds spunky. But Lady Luggage-eye, that's just so picturesque...errr visually graphic, haha!
Can't choose they are all soo...royalty ;-)
ricky the royal highness
June 12, 2011 at 8:42 AM
Haha..
I don't usually ask this 'cause it seems to be so cheesy. But if you were to choose a word to describe yourself, what would it be?
We can start from there before we come up with a suitable name for you, samgetang.
samgetang
June 12, 2011 at 9:03 AM
Actually, I want Lady Gaga's handle for me-self, hehe.
She really got it, that girl. I mean putting together two so conflicting words is pure genius ;-)
But since she already has sole proprietary rights to that name....
Lemme see... about myself? me? crazee? silly? cant think....out of focus...sleepy...
*scratches head...dazed look*
samgetang
June 12, 2011 at 9:06 AM
oh, no wonder...its already midnight in our side of the planet...can i sleep on it, YRH? ;-) names are such important stuff...it can make our break your future...
ricky the royal NOSINESS
June 12, 2011 at 9:37 AM
it's around midnight here in my kingdom too.
Right, sleep on it. Frankly I can't answer one-word quizzes myself.
Lady Gaga's name is creative to boot!
ricky the royal highness
June 12, 2011 at 9:39 AM
LOL. I forgot to change my handle!
*changes NOSINESS to highness*
Heh :)
MJP
June 11, 2011 at 11:03 PM
Stated Facts:
1. Getting RTRH's phone number from ???
2. Finding out that RTRH is hanging out on DB from ???.
3. Lurking on OT for a couple of weeks, gathering information about RTRH.
4. Doing all this, even though she is just an acquaintence.
My Opinion:
1. This person appears not to have respect for RTRH.
2. This person appears to have serious boundary issues.
3. This person appears to have psychological issues.
4. This person appears to have a need to display herself and her power/knowledge once attaining this data.
5. This person appears to desire only self-gratification.
Rhetorical Questions:
1. If a woman is attracted to a man, is this the ROUTINE way to communicate intrest?
2. Does a man want a woman who acts in this manner?
3. Is it even appealing to a man to see a woman act in this manner?
Personal Comments:
I don't know everything and I could totally be wrong, but "butter" just rubbed me the wrong way. Totally the wrong way. I am really concerned, (the Mom in me) that this isn't the end of it for RTRH. I hope, hope, hope that I am totally wrong!!!! Really, I do.
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ricky the royal highness
June 11, 2011 at 11:27 PM
I appreaciate your concern, MJP.
Please don't fret.
She got my number from a mutual friend, she has always been a silent DB and OT visitor (waaay before I started posting in the OT) and when she saw my handle for the first time she was curious. Her curiosity was further tempted after reading the OT for several weeks and finding more info about me (and finding that the info 'fit' this person whom she knows). So she then decided to 'approach' me.
Although her method was not proper, she could have just texted me instead of posting in the OT, I'm partly to blame IMO.
1. I shouldn't have given out too many personal information which could reveal my real identity.
2. I should have chosen a different handle. The name Royal Highness is really rather well-known in our friendship circle.
I had a talk with butter a few days ago. The real face-to-face kind and she explained everything to me. She's back to being a silent visitor(which she prefers) and she could probably be reading this at this moment. She's apologetic and I'm very forgiving :)
So, be nice, people!
The matter has already been solved and I would be very happy if everyone here in the OT would just forget the whole thing and never mentioned the identity dilemma again.
Oh before I forget...
she's not my type :)
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MJP
June 11, 2011 at 11:46 PM
Okay... I won't mention it again.
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MJP
June 11, 2011 at 11:49 PM
p.s. Should I mention that I am tired, sore and crabby? Probably shouldn't be posting then, huh? I'll return when I am able to be witty.
Good-bye, all.
ricky the royal highness
June 12, 2011 at 12:01 AM
MJP,
The tired, sore and crabby you is still very lovable!
You care, therefore I'm touched.
Loving you a thousand episodes, noona.
Have a good rest :)
samgetang
June 12, 2011 at 6:12 AM
Awww. MJP, this is so sweet! We always know you are a caring soul here in DB! I went back several OT before this one when I came back after a long hiatus and I read that you were looking for me then. So, really felt your sincere concern for everyone here. Im sure HRH Ricky knows where you are coming from. Im not too familiar with Butter...have not read her posts here in its entirety...but Im sure she would not have caused you to raise your hackles without due reason. For that we are touched. And we hope she would understand, if ever she reads this.
Thank you for being you!
ricky the royal highness
June 12, 2011 at 6:15 AM
MJP is incredible!
Viola
June 12, 2011 at 12:46 PM
Fierce in battle, and magnanimous in victory..... well done.
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115 dramabliss
June 12, 2011 at 1:45 AM
Nitpicking CSW time!
Is it just me or has anyone here noticed the unusual shape/size of CSW's fingernails? It bothered me a bit (back in City Hall) that his fingernails are a bit at odds with the rest of his body, e.g., height, large hands.
There are so many shots of his hands in Best Love and in Ep12, his feet were also shown so got a peek at his toenails, too, which thankfully matched his fingernails.
Oh, well, at the moment I am no longer bothered. Even finding the fingernails/toenails as sexy as the rest of him.
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Noi
June 12, 2011 at 1:56 AM
Maybe he's a nail biter. LMAO, so many people are.
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ricky the royal highness
June 12, 2011 at 6:14 AM
Nitpicking Yoo In Na time!
When Pil Joo first saw Se Ri during his date and he was looking at her posture *cough her behind cough* I froze the screen and umm...made my own evaluation, then I played the scene again in slow motion, to make an extensive re-evaluation.
After 5 repetitions, I realized that I didn't register anything Pil Joo said. So I had to repeat the whole scene again! Heh :p
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samgetang
June 12, 2011 at 6:30 AM
haha! dramabliss, you are amazing! ;-)
ricky-ssi, maybe pil-joo would be bothered if its his behind (or any of his body parts) that made you repeat the scene, haha!
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ricky the royal highness
June 12, 2011 at 6:35 AM
HAHA :)
Trust me when I say it wasn't him that I was ogling!
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samgetang
June 12, 2011 at 6:54 AM
You can ogle Yoo In Na anytime :-)
I wonder about the nitpicking though...do men also bother with the fingernails/toenails like our dear dramabliss here...cos after reading her post i suddenly went back to pics of CSW to nitpick hehehe...i realized i could be missing a lot, hahaha...
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ricky the royal highness
June 12, 2011 at 7:02 AM
Most men don't bother, I think.
samgetang
June 12, 2011 at 7:08 AM
i must be a man, hahaha!
ricky the royal highness
June 12, 2011 at 7:31 AM
The better conclusion would be, you were busy worshiping abs to notice anything else.
samgetang
June 12, 2011 at 7:41 AM
hahaha, you are right! i got a one-track mind...I should widen my horizons, sharpen my focus...
ricky the royal highness
June 12, 2011 at 7:46 AM
I think my ability to focus malfunctioned when I discovered dramas. Next thing I knew, global warming came knocking and someone named Bustin Jieber is the new IT.
samgetang
June 12, 2011 at 7:58 AM
looks like drama-watching is not just focus-damaging but also vision-tunneling...which is so conflicting. it wrecks your sense of balance and sense of time all at once...
NN
June 12, 2011 at 8:25 AM
yeah, I noticed too. His hand is nice and big and his fingers are a good length and look pretty strong but his fingernails are pretty oddly shaped. Agree with Noi that he could be a nailbiter though likely a reformed one since his nails didn't look chewed on! On the topic of hands, I love Lee Min Ho to bits but seem to recall his hands don't look too manly.
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ck1Oz
June 12, 2011 at 9:11 AM
http://revistaprivilege.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/lee-min-ho.jpg?w=398&h=596&h=596
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ahjummabunny
June 12, 2011 at 9:33 AM
I should be getting ready to go out why did I come here!!!!! you are a true cha seung won fan. I am bowing out.
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116 izzie
June 12, 2011 at 8:51 AM
1221 comments. Eek!
I'mma go to sleep now. G'night everyone! and for those at the other side of the planet, G'morning!
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117 samgetang
June 12, 2011 at 9:27 AM
1,234 comments as I post this. Wow! I think it's time for me to rest me sleepyhead.
Signing off....Thanks, thanks OT people!
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ricky the royal highness
June 12, 2011 at 9:43 AM
Yep.
This Royal Highness is retiring to his chambers as well.
Good night! (for those on the Opposite Side of The Axis - Morning!)
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118 MJP
June 12, 2011 at 12:42 PM
Song Seung Heon (aka Mr. Hand Towel) here is his latest 2010 movie "Ghost" aka Love and Soul with English Subs.
http://www.dramacrazy.net/korean-movie/ghost-in-your-arms-again-watch/
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tinpra
June 12, 2011 at 2:45 PM
I was trying to be good by finishing my last episode of All That Glitters then moving on to slightly less procrastinate-y stuff, but then you had to post this, Unnie, and I just know I'm gonna be sucked in. I don't know whether to grumble or sing :)
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ricky the royal highness
June 12, 2011 at 6:44 PM
I retired from watching Korean movies last year. I can't remember the last one I watched, even.
Maybe I should again, eh?
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samgetang
June 12, 2011 at 8:09 PM
Oh! MJP! Song Seung Heon!!!! Yay! Thanks mucho!!!!
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samgetang
June 13, 2011 at 2:40 AM
I started watching SSH's Ghost In Your Arms Again after clicking on the link you gave, MJP. But, my broadband connection faltered after the middle of the 3rd part. The film got the tone of Jfilms, quiet and less talk, except when the ever-famous theme song of the original film burst into chorus. I had to suppress my laughter, it felt so '90s. The opening scene was interesting when Nanami slapped Juno (SSH's character)...immediately gets your attention. SSH looks believable as the potter-artist Korean who is in Japan studying for, well, pottery arts ;-) It was sooo funny reading the comments in dramacrazy how ppl are so looking forward to the film. It made me double-take 'cause I was the same only to realize when I started viewing it how cheesy the film's premise is especially when you've already seen the original and know beforehand how it is going to turn out. Not many people actually like to watch anything where the leads will die. But for some reason, this film has been most watched and now even remade. I guess its okay as long as the lead will remain in our views as ghosts and still be able to interact with his/her love interest in the film. Curious how this version will unfold...
*slinks back to ghost mode*
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MJP
June 13, 2011 at 11:39 AM
samgetang,
I started watching it too late night/early morning. I have to say I was disappointed. Not in SSH, but with the writing and a bit with the female lead. The characteristics/personality of her character didn't seem to mesh with the actress, in my humble opinion. But it was pretty cheesey. :-) I watched some of Part 1, some of Part 2 and then skipped to the End to watch the ending. I think it would have been much better writing on the ending if they would have killed off SSH's character. Again, just my opinion. It would have been truly Japanese and made more of a fitting ending.
Well, again I am taking too long and my son is looking for his lunch. I must go!!!
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samgetang
June 13, 2011 at 2:09 PM
hi MJP,
i knew it! the film was cheesy but i heard that it raked good number of tickets in the cinemas. well, we cant blame 'em -- SSH is just a joy to watch...err i cant decide whether its his abs/biceps or his dimples/eyelashes that i should take first notice. how about all? haha! the treatment of the movie about the reason for the death of Nanami is quiet clever. Agree with you MJP, there seems to be a disconnect somehow with the two main leads although SSH did a fine job in the emo scenes especially when he saw the pottery made by Nanami after she died and how he held it close to him...he was good there. how Nanami cant say' I Love You' back to Juno is a nice treatment, too...but felt like it was not completely fleshed out, blame it on a 1.5 hr-film as opposed to more time to do so in a drama series. Anyway, the film feels like fanservice from start to finish...that's how distracting SSH's gorgeousness is...you cant get get past that and into his character and the story. maybe it is all because of me after all, hehe. Next time I will just content myself with checking out his photos in the magazines, that way I wont have to blame him from distracting me from any film/drama. he will be the story i will read, dissect and analyse :-)
Hope your son had a delicious and filling lunch ;-)
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119 nadoka
June 12, 2011 at 12:59 PM
Viola ... here is a Gift to you ....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbAfSCEHZpU&feature=related
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Viola
June 12, 2011 at 2:30 PM
"Thou art beautiful, O my love, as Tirzah, comely as Jerusalem, terrible as an army with banners. Turn away thine eyes for they have overcome me..."
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leonardswench
June 12, 2011 at 2:31 PM
I knew, I knew it, I knew Song of Solomon would be flowing ...
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leonardswench
June 12, 2011 at 2:30 PM
Nadoka, thank you, from the bottom of my heart, which is just fainting at the SIX PACK OF DEATH ABS of SIWON.
Viola, he's yours, but uhm ... oh my gracious Lord, thank you for making this man!!!
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Viola
June 12, 2011 at 2:36 PM
"Thou art whom my soul Loveth... Okay, I will stop. You have to forgive me there Nadoka, I start quoting Songs of Solomon any time I see him. *sigh* I have good chunks of SoS memorized, just so I can do his beauty justice.
Thank you Nadoka, THANK YOU!! You have done your good deed for the day! *HUGS*
Oh, did I mention that I love you at this moment? 'Cause I do!! Go Nadoka!! :)
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nadoka
June 12, 2011 at 3:23 PM
V .. i thought of you as soon as i saw this clip .. on the other hand i could not but admire thous perfect abs of his ... i have to repent for my sines or else Viola's hex and damnation will be upon me ....
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Viola
June 12, 2011 at 6:01 PM
Ah, I guess there are some perks of being the Notorious Viola, then. Thank you Nadoka from the bottom of my heart. :) Do you think that someday, some when he might stumble across DB, and see one of my more crazy posts (who am I kidding? ALL of them are crazy) and run away screaming? :P
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120 Viola
June 12, 2011 at 2:33 PM
"Set me as a seal upon thy heart, as a seal upon thy arms, for love is strong as death. Jealousy cruel as the grave. The coals thereof are coals of fire, which hath a most vehement flame."
"Many waters can not quench love, neither can the floods drown it. If a man would give all the substance of his house for love, it would utterly be contemned."
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leonardswench
June 12, 2011 at 2:36 PM
We can't even post straight, can we???
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Viola
June 12, 2011 at 2:38 PM
You expect any woman to have fine motor control skills after that video?! :P
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leonardswench
June 12, 2011 at 2:40 PM
Not you or me or my oldest daughter, no ........ or anyone with ovaries or eyes or a heartbeat, really, and that might even raise a few from the dead!!
Is that sacrilege? :D
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121 leonardswench
June 12, 2011 at 2:33 PM
10 My beloved is radiant and ruddy,
outstanding among ten thousand.
11 His head is purest gold;
his hair is wavy
and black as a raven.
12 His eyes are like doves
by the water streams,
washed in milk,
mounted like jewels.
13 His cheeks are like beds of spice
yielding perfume.
His lips are like lilies
dripping with myrrh.
14 His arms are rods of gold
set with topaz.
His body is like polished ivory
decorated with lapis lazuli.
15 His legs are pillars of marble
set on bases of pure gold.
His appearance is like Lebanon,
choice as its cedars.
16 His mouth is sweetness itself;
he is altogether lovely.
This is my beloved, this is my friend,
daughters of Jerusalem.
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Viola
June 12, 2011 at 2:40 PM
" I am my Beloved's and my Beloved is MINE !!" :P
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leonardswench
June 12, 2011 at 2:41 PM
I think this is talking about Siwon, YEP, I do!!
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122 Viola
June 12, 2011 at 3:19 PM
Yes, LW I was talking about Siwon! :p Those daughters of Jerusalem better watch out!
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leonardswench
June 12, 2011 at 4:10 PM
LOL They know, they know!!!
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123 tinpra
June 12, 2011 at 7:31 PM
Omo, just noticed one of the new banners with...Lee Min Ho? IDK offhand, but the caption is made of win: Dramabeans: You Did It To Yourself
ROFL! Oh so true!
And on that note, I think it's time for bed. Night DB'ers!
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124 ahjummabunny
June 12, 2011 at 8:58 PM
why is everyone going to bed or gone to bed when I want to rave about royal family, not being able to sleep because I want to watch the last eight episodes before going to work tomorrow?
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MJP
June 12, 2011 at 9:37 PM
I'm here... I watched Royal Family. What do you want to talk about? What Episode are you on?
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ahjummabunny
June 14, 2011 at 5:58 AM
Okay I just stayed up all night and I have two more episodes left. I love this drama so much. It's one of the best that I've ever seen. There were no throw-away scenes and all the actors were spot on. Ji Sung blew me away. I'd only ever seen him in save the last dance for me but man does he have range! The actresses all delivered the characters were great. This drama is the best I've seen this year and I really liked 49 days and I do like best love but for me royal family is the best.
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MJP
June 14, 2011 at 7:51 PM
Just imagine all the tension you would have had if you had watched it while it was airing!!! Who could wait a week before finding out what is happening?
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ahjummabunny
June 15, 2011 at 8:30 AM
I knooowww. by the way what kind of ending was that? I'm puzzled and somewhat upset because it's like a hong gil dong ending without the centuries later fast forward. which by the way was a great way to end hong gil dong because he couldn't possibly live for so many years. and uhm chipsa and even annoying johnny, okay I guess I hate this drama after all.
MJP
June 15, 2011 at 2:01 PM
!!!!!!!Total Royal Family Spoiler Alert!!!!!!!
Well, think about it... He, Ji Hoon-i was definitely one smart cookie. He was able to track down and convict the person who framed him for killing someone. He also was able to figure out all the lies behind the Royal family. Don't you think he was able to figure the old hag would try to off them? Why else would he take flying lessons? Also, why is it that only the two of them were reported missing and not the pilot of the helecoptor? It should have been 3 persons if the death plot was successful. Also, he left a letter for his mother stating:
There is one thing that I must tell you so I left this letter. I am now in a fight with a huge dinosaur. Although it's a hard struggle, I will not be consumed by the large dinosaur. Who am I? To a mother, I am a son, Ji Hoon. No matter what happens, I will not go down with the dinosaur. Therefore, Mother, no matter what bad news you have heard that said I was destroyed by the dinosaur, don't believe it. Even if the world argues that I am dead, don't believe it.
I believe they had to fake their deaths in order to be free from the Royal family. (I had to watch the ending four times to get this all figured out.)
125 Lucky
June 12, 2011 at 9:22 PM
I can believe it.. I love Shaun of the dead too!!! I could see that movie thousand of times is so hilarious
And defenitely Queen is a good choise
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126 Okie Dokie
June 12, 2011 at 11:51 PM
Bravo OT Family! 1,291 posts!!!!!!!!!! Hope we made you proud JB & GF!
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127 Viola
June 13, 2011 at 12:12 PM
Lee Min Ho got into a car accident. Sad face.
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ahjummabunny
June 13, 2011 at 12:32 PM
he's unscathed. Happy face!
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izzie
June 14, 2011 at 10:45 AM
he came to my house to recover. Excited face! :D
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ahjummabunny
June 15, 2011 at 8:32 AM
you posted *indiscreet* photos online. Agog face!
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izzie
June 16, 2011 at 10:13 AM
my bad. Shy face!
128 MJP
June 13, 2011 at 10:31 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfeys7Jfnx8&feature=channel_video_title
nigahiga strikes again!!!! Nice Guys...
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129 ahjummabunny
June 15, 2011 at 8:41 AM
aedeur-ah,
I've decided to confess I love MELODRAMAS. I used to think I didn't but I really do love them. By the way I love to hear koreans say aedeurah/aedeulah, kabchagi, hoakshilhi.
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ahjummabunny
June 15, 2011 at 8:48 AM
and maeil especially when go soo says it.
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130 Lahlita
June 15, 2011 at 7:47 PM
@javabeans
Random: Do you proof your recaps and articles before you post them, or does Girlfriday or someone else do it for you? I ask because I do freelance copy editing work, and I think I've found about three typos in the nearly two years I've been reading your blog. That kind of accuracy is just not normal. How the heck do you do it? What is your process?
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Lahlita
June 15, 2011 at 7:52 PM
@Girlfriday You can answer this as well if you'd like. You and JB both have inhuman writing abilities. I'd be pissed off if I weren't so impressed. :-)
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ahjummabunny
June 15, 2011 at 8:02 PM
but how could they! they post recaps the instant the episode is done airing!
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131 Mandelbrotr
June 16, 2011 at 8:25 PM
City Hunter! anybody around to discuss it? I can't wait until the recap is up to discuss. CH has learned how to do a cliff-hanger. Both eps 7 & 8 ended with good ones. 7 so much that I said, "like hell waiting for the subs to be done, I'm watching the next one!" My hands were at my mouth and the end of 8. Oh, the sound effects! When will it be Wednesday again?
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Mandelbrotr
June 16, 2011 at 8:28 PM
And what's up with that cocker spaniel? It's soooooo docile almost like one of her fluffy stuffed animals.
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