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Plus Nine Boys: Episode 3

This show continues to be an understated slice-of-life tale that focuses on very relatable foibles, like getting your hopes up way too soon over the slightest possibility at love, or teasing the girl you have a crush on because it’s easier than letting her see your bleeding heart. Now that the premise has been set up, luck takes a backseat to plain old insecurity, which turns out to be a problem at any age, especially when it comes to love. It’s an episode about connections—the ones that you wait a lifetime for, those that pass you by, and the ones that sneak up on you when you least expect it.

 
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Track 3: “It’s been a while”

Uncle Kwang-soo narrates that love is common, but for some people, there are times when just starting love is difficult. He walks into the art gallery to see his first love after all these years, full of anticipation, “that this small decision would be the best choice of my life…”

As he waits, he pictures his college sweetheart in all her youthful glory, and spins around with a smile to greet her. But then his face falls to see just how much she’s changed (cameo by Lee Gook-joo). Well, I have no sympathy for you if the only reason you looked her up was the hope that she looked the same.

She totally calls him out on coming here to see her, and drags him away to lunch. Later, his buddy Young-hoon laughs to hear the story and asks about his other ex-girlfriends, chuckling at the fact that Kwang-soo feigned disinterest but has been seeking them out one by one.

Kwang-soo sighs at the mention of the ex he dated after army, and we go back to that recent coffee date… where she showed up with her new girlfriend. Ha. That’s awesome. They cap it off with a request for him to sign a petition so that they can be married, and he signs with his mouth hanging open, still shocked and confused.

Young-hoon says he did the right thing by signing, while Kwang-soo just grouses that this is all his fault. Young-hoon passes the blame onto Telefairy, and thinks they must’ve missed someone in his past because she’s never wrong about these things. He decides to look up the girl he dated before army (how many girls did you date, player?) and ignores Kwang-soo’s half-hearted objections.

Meanwhile, Jin-gu goes on an overnight work trip with his teammates, including Se-young and his bestie Jae-bum. He sits quietly next to Jae-bum and mulls over what he knows so far—that Jae-bum confessed his feelings to Se-young and got rejected, and Se-young likes someone.

She snaps him out of his reverie and calls him over to her seat, and he reluctantly scoots closer and closer, until he’s within reach and she cracks an egg on his head. She decides that it’s tastier this way and shoves the whole thing in her mouth, and then it’s his turn to laugh at her for choking on her food.

Jae-bum is the only one to get up and hand her a bottle of water to help her, and Jin-gu looks on, a little chastened. It’s a nice encapsulation of their three-way romance.

When they get off the bus, their team leader lets Jin-gu explain the concept of their scouting tour—to find places suitable for a romantic meet-your-match trip for singles. In order to find good locations for dates, they’re going to break up into male-female pairs for their day trips.

Of course Se-young and the two boys are last to be paired, and she ends up with Jin-gu, while Jae-bum gets stuck with a handsy coworker. Se-young sighs at the tiresome day ahead, and Jin-gu just throws an arm over her shoulder to point out that protesting that much means the opposite; she deadpans that sometimes words mean what they mean. I like her.

Jae-bum is reluctant to leave, and lingers to ask Jin-gu to take good care of Se-young. That request doesn’t sit well with Jin-gu, and he thinks to himself that he wanted to be happy for Jae-bum when he fell in love someday… but now that’s going to be difficult.

When he’s alone with Se-young, Jin-gu sticks to his most comfortable full-of-himself, blustery façade, telling her to be grateful she got paired with him when everyone else was obviously dying to be his partner. She just walks away, leaving him to talk out loud to himself, ha.

They spend their day scouting locations and taking the cutest couple photos wherever they go, and I swear, the way he looks at her just does me in. He takes pictures of her whenever she isn’t looking, and they spend the day goofing off and taking in the sights.

They end up at the beach, where Jin-gu makes Se-young lie down in the sand pretending that she’s disrupting his panoramic shot of the shore, only to take pictures of her and tease her for her pose.

She thinks this would be a good spot for the picnic lunch portion of the tour (where the participants will choose their lunch dates and pair off that way), and Jin-gu seizes the moment to ask which coworker Se-young would choose to have lunch with. He waits with anticipation and after a long pause she turns to him: “Oppa…”

He lights up, but then she finishes with, “…you have something on your face.” Wah-waaaah. He pouts that he dislikes this location after all, and she’s dumbfounded when he was singing its praises a second ago.

They relocate to a café where he takes more scenic pictures from the balcony, and he notices that she’s dozing off. That gives him free reign to just openly stare googly-eyed at her, and he blocks the sun from her eyes, causing onlookers to gag at the display of affection.

As his hand hovers inches away from her face, he wonders in voiceover, “Just this far… Is this the right distance for us? If I take one step closer, will we grow farther apart?”

She wakes up in time to see him snap his hand back in a hurry, and he covers up the moment by calling her ugly even when she sleeps. She guesses that he was going to hit her, and he pretends to be caught red-handed. Doofus.

They go shopping at the fish market for fresh catch and eat it raw right there on the beach with soju. I’m so jealous right now. Se-young makes this adorably contented face when she takes a bite, and Jin-gu tells her to stop making that face, complaining that it’s her ugliest.

She keeps doing it just to spite him, and then we hear him thinking, “I’m the weakest when she makes that face.” Aw. Jae-bum calls just to check in with them, and Se-young points out that Jin-gu must be be dating him, they’re so inseparable.

Kwang-soo’s staff at his new infotainment show Sponge goes through a series of demonstrations of weird phenomena, each more deflating than the last. I love the look of utter exasperation on his face as he watches them do stupid human tricks, and he shuts down their ideas with the deafening logical question: Why would anyone want to know that?

Young-hoon finds him skulking in the halls and shows him pictures of his pre-army ex-girlfriend, who’s now a doctor. He urges Kwang-soo to go in for a checkup to see her. Kwang-soo: “What’s she a doctor of?” Young-hoon: “Urology.” Pfft.

Nineteen-year-old middle bro Min-gu waits at the bus stop to go to judo practice and sees his mystery girl one more time as she passes by on a bus. He decides that three times is fate, and tweets about it. (Ha, is he supposed to misspell “destuny”?)

He sits quietly as his friends tease each other about their latest failures at dating, and they wonder why he doesn’t have a girlfriend with a face like that. (It cracks me up that we get explanatory subtitles whenever the teenagers talk, because it works to poke fun at their overly shortened words, while also being helpful because I wouldn’t understand them otherwise.) Min-gu just says that he already has a girl he’s destined to be with.

At home that night, Min-gu kicks maknae Dong-gu until he busts out his sageuk speech to complain to “queen mother” that hyung is abusing the “prince.” My favorite part is that Mom answers back in sageuk tone. It just makes Min-gu tease him for his terrible foot-acting, of which Dong-gu continues to be blissfully unaware.

Mom takes the remote from Kwang-soo to watch You From Another Star, and sighs happily that Do Min-joon and Chun Song-yi were destined to be together. Dong-gu pouts at anyone named Do Min-joon because of the kid he lost that movie part to, and on the other end of the couch, Kwang-soo complains that every drama nowadays touts the slightest thing as fate. Tell me about it.

Min-gu argues that fate is totally real, and tells him about his Destiny Girl. Kwang-soo the skeptic tells him that he’s noticing her because she’s pretty, and there are probably about two thousand other guys who think she’s their destiny too.

The upstairs neighbors start with the noise again, so Min-gu takes out the big guns: a tower of stereo speakers. He blasts music and he and Dong-gu have a dance party, and Mom tells them to do it for just ten more minutes.

The tour-planning day winds down for Jae-bum and his partner over dinner, and she laughs that if Se-young were here she would’ve eaten everything on the table. The coworker thinks that Se-young isn’t popular with men because she’s so tomboyish, but Jae-bum counters that she’s just one of those people who’s pretty no matter what she does, and being with her just makes you happy.

He calls Jin-gu again to check on Se-young, but this time Jin-gu doesn’t answer and lets Se-young believe it’s a spam call from downloading too much porn. She’s happily drunk by now, and Jin-gu asks again about her picnic lunch date choice. He’s like a dog with a bone, but I love how much importance he’s placing on this stupid hypothetical question.

She starts to point in his direction, but then passes out before she can answer. He’s so desperate to hear her say it that he tries to shake her awake, even prompting her, “It’s me, right? Me?”

But she’s too far gone to finish the thought, and he has to drag her back, eventually piggybacking her. He’s exhausted from having to carry her and all their stuff, but the second she wraps her arms around him while he piggybacks her, he breaks into a big smile.

He makes it to the team’s lodgings drenched in sweat and spills Se-young onto the floor, and Jae-bum quickly piggybacks her to her room before Jin-gu can intervene. Jae-bum tucks her into bed and when she sees that it’s him, she slurs, “I’m sorry, Jae-bum oppa, I’m sorry.”

He reaches a hand out to touch her face but pulls back, and Jin-gu watches all this from the hallway. The boys have another drink and Jae-bum says he likes liking someone, and Jin-gu asks if he’s going to confess again.

Jae-bum plans to win her over and try again, and asks Jin-gu for his help because he’s well versed in the dating game. Eek, don’t agree to help him! Jin-gu avoids it by saying that Se-young is different and none of the usual stuff will work on a girl like her. Aw, it’s both cute (pointing out that she’s special) and sad (he knows from trying that it won’t be easy).

In the morning, Jin-gu wakes up early to make hangover soup for Se-young, but then when Jae-bum sees it, he totally jumps to the wrong conclusion—that Jin-gu is doing this for him as a friend. Ack. He takes over, pretending like he made the breakfast, and Jin-gu doesn’t know what else to do but step aside and let Jae-bum take the credit. But… but… mrmph.

Back in the city, Kwang-soo steps cautiously into the urology clinic and acts squirrely as he asks for an exam. There’s nothing wrong! I just want a general exam, you know, for general things! He nearly jumps out of his skin when a nurse hands him a cup for his sperm and turns on a bow-chicka-bow-wow video.

Still, he goes through all of it just to see his ex-girlfriend, and he’s full of anticipation all over again as he sits in the waiting room to see the doctor. She’s happy and surprised to see him, and thinks he looks as boyish as he always did. She’s impressed that he grew up to be a PD (he brags that he’s good friends with all sorts of celebrities), and they leave on a very hopeful note—this could lead to something more, and he lets himself get excited.

She starts to say something as he’s leaving but is too self-conscious to say it, and he thinks she’s being shy about asking him out. But then she catches up to him at the elevator and hands him an envelope… with a wedding invitation inside. Oh no.

To twist the knife further, she asks if he’ll help her find someone to sing at her wedding: “Do you know Sung Shi-kyung?” Ha, and aw. He blames the Telefairy for getting his hopes up, thinking it better to just live the rest of his days alone.

Mom drives Dong-gu to a CF shoot today, and they’re both surprised to see his rival Do Min-joon there. Mom promises that he won’t even be visible in the frame because Dong-gu is the star, but when they get on the set, Min-joon turns out to be the star while Dong-gu is just one of many background chickens.

The director doesn’t even recognize Dong-gu despite having made a commercial with him before, and Dong-gu bursts into tears when he gets called out for not trying hard enough. He and Mom get the cold shoulder from the staff while everyone fawns over Min-joon the star, and Dong-gu asks to go home.

He wails in the car, blaming Mom and Do Min-joon and generally hating life, but he is 9—when Mom offers to buy him a hamburger, his tears stop immediately.

Mom calls Min-gu to go buy hamburgers on his way home, and though he complains, he ditches his friends and does as asked. He grabs the bus to change direction, and whadduya know, Destiny Girl gets on the same bus.

He decides that it’s time to make his move and practices his greeting, and the nervousness makes his irritable bowels act up again. But he narrates that judo is all about timing, and love is the same—if you lose your timing, it gets difficult.

He whirls around to approach her, but just then his judo rival (the one who beat him at the last competition) notices him and cuts him off with a bout of trash-talking. They nearly come to blows right there on the bus, but then Min-gu notices that Destiny Girl has already gotten off and he missed his window. He fumes, but then finds that she left a notebook behind.

The tour planning team spends the evening drinking together, and they play a game to send the losers on a beer run. To Jin-gu’s dismay, Se-young and Jae-bum get stuck going together, and to make matters worse, their team leader makes them hold hands while doing it.

Se-young looks embarrassed and awkward, but their coworkers just take it as a sign that they like each other and egg them on even more, as Jin-gu looks up at them jealously.

Back at home, Kwang-soo has a good cry while watching a sad movie and gets annoyed when his mood is broken by the upstairs neighbors. This time he’s had enough, and storms upstairs to give the noisy stompers a piece of his mind. Mom runs after him excitedly, and Min-gu cheers them on.

He bangs on the upstairs neighbor’s door repeatedly and starts to launch into his complaint… only when he looks up, he’s rendered speechless. Their neighbor turns out to be Da-in, Se-young’s friend from the café with the young daughter. Da-in doesn’t look pleased to see Kwang-soo either, and they just stare intently at each other, unable to say a word.

Mom interrupts the moment by reminding them why they came up, and complains about the incessant noise. Da-in looks confused and says that it can’t be them, looking back at her quiet little daughter who’s eating without a peep.

Just then, the noise starts up again, and Mom apologizes that they had the wrong house. Kwang-soo just shuffles away without a word, lost in thought. And one door over, Mom finds the noisy culprit in her neighbor friend.

Kwang-soo looks up an old homepage featuring an album titled “My Everything.” It’s filled with adorable happy photos of him and Da-in, and one of her wearing a soda can tab as a ring with the caption: “I’m sorry I can’t be better to you—next time I’ll get you a real ring. Thank you for loving me.”

Young-hoon’s questions about his exes float through his head: “I really thought you and Da-in would get married. Whom do you want to see the most? Da-in?” Upstairs, Da-in sits with her daughter, lost in thought as well.

As Kwang-soo thinks about his chance meeting with Da-in, Jin-gu watches Se-young leave hand-in-hand with Jae-bum and gets up with determination. And Min-gu sits in his bed reading through Destiny Girl’s notebook.

He narrates: “Connections sometimes find you when you’re least prepared. And connections are easy to suddenly lose. That’s why connection isn’t something you wait for—it’s something that’s won.”

 
COMMENTS

I was happy to get lots of Kwang-soo in this episode, because he’s fast becoming the show’s most interesting character. Jin-gu’s loveline with Se-young is my favorite, but he’s a rather uncomplicated character, at least from what we’ve seen so far. (Granted, his puppy crush and foot-in-mouth syndrome is endlessly cute.) Kwang-soo on the other hand has so much growing to do, professionally, romantically, and just generally as a human being. In some ways his boyishness can be seen as a positive trait, but we also start to see that he might be the least mature man in the family (okay, save for the 9-year-old who thinks he’s a star), who confuses jadedness with wisdom.

His journey through his past girlfriends was a really fun device, because it’s a nice catalogue that tells us about him as a person—he’s vain, a little oblivious, and unrealistic about people from his past remaining unchanged. But it also says a lot about him that no matter how many failures he encounters, he still waits eagerly with newfound anticipation every time he seeks out an ex. For all his faults, he’s hopeful for a second chance at love, and I can’t help but feel for a guy with that kind of earnest optimism underneath it all.

I don’t think it’s a leap to wonder if Kwang-soo might be the father of Da-in’s child, in which case they both have some serious questions to answer. I’m looking forward to seeing their relationship in flashback, because Kwang-soo seems like a totally different person in love. It’s fitting that he just got done telling Min-gu that destiny is a hoax and he’s just seeing what he wants to see… only to come across the love of his life one day by chance. I love the setup that she was the one that got away, because I have a feeling he doesn’t even know why he lost her, and he’ll have to do a lot of maturing before he can ever win her back.

Jin-gu and Se-young’s non-couple couple tour was the cutest thing, and the trip actually helped show just how badly he gets in his own way when it comes to her. He could be openly showering her with affection and getting all the credit for thoughtfully cooking her breakfast, but instead he covers up his fears (of rejection, of ruining friendships, both?) with teasing and deflection. How is a girl to know you like her when you call her prettiest face her ugliest, and only pull out your smitten kitten look when she’s asleep?

It was the obsession with the stupid lunchbox question that did me in though, because it’s such a sideways way to ask her what he really wants to know, loading a seemingly harmless question with so much meaning. It’s SO hypersensitive—he reminds me a little of Answer Me 1997‘s Yoon-jae, with his inability to say how he feels directly, leading him to place too much significance on the little things. But that’s so relatable, because who hasn’t done that to mortifying effect in at least one relationship in their lives? Maybe all boys who get friend-zoned become this sensitive, but then maybe that’s why I like them as drama characters.

I’m not worrying too much about the fortuneteller’s prediction that only one of the boys will find their connection this year, because there are all sorts of loopholes, like the others having to wait till the following year, or the fortuneteller being plain wrong. It’s not a closed mystery like Who’s the husband? (GAH), and even if only one of the boys gets his romantic happy ending, I don’t doubt that we’ll get satisfying resolutions for all of them regardless. I suppose right now I’m rooting for Jin-gu to get his girl, but I have a feeling I’ll soon want Kwang-soo and Da-in to reunite; I refuse to pit their happy endings against each other, so I’ll just remain optimistic that Fate’s got all sorts of loopholes in her arsenal. Don’t make me regret giving you the benefit of the doubt!

 
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Mingu is the wrong person to pint out Dongu's foot acting. Why isn't anyone, including the person paid to tell him, the teacher, telling this kid what he's doing wrong?

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He is reading his lines as if he is reading a newspaper. Is it becos he is reading for a saguek and thinks that's the way ppl spoke in the court? LOL.

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He acts like this no matter what the scenes or lines. Seriously, I cant figure out why no one's coaching him properly.

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To be honest, I thought he had a reading problem period. If he doesn't or can't make sense of what he reads, then how is he going to be able to convey emotion with it? No one reads the way he does, especially at that age.

Mom needs to have him evaluated to make sure he doesn't have any reading handicap before pushing him into an acting career. And she should man up and let her son know he sucks at acting and should pursue other interests.

If she goes on this way, as a teenager, he may end up deeply resenting his mom (because, behind all her pushing, the motivation may just end up being money, how much he can be paid and what she can get from it). The boy is nine or at least eight. At that age, the parent needs to be a lot stricter than she's being with him. Agreed that he's the baby of the house, but it's clear he needs some discipline.

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I am all here for the Jin-gu and Se-young romance! its adorable! Can't wait to start watching this series..but I have to finsih Josean Gunman first^^

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I'm seriously digging the OSTs of this show. The scenes and the music combined make me feel cozy inside.

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Exactly.. The background score when Min-gu encounters his destiny is really beautiful,.. just like building anticipation of falling in love.

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Where to download OSTs?

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For anyone interested in the OST, I suggest following the 9 Boys soompi forum. Someone there has taken it upon herself to compile tracklists for each episode complete with descriptions of the scenes they're from and links to youtube videos. I'm pretty sure page 6 has the 1st ep, and then the rest are on following pages, you just have to search a little. I'm pretty sure the tracklist for ep 4 is already up on the most recent page :)

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I'm loving every bit of this drama especially the indie music that they play. There seems to be a perfect indie song to match the situations in the drama.

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The 1st half of ep 1 didn't grab me, but I gave it a 2nd chance, and have watched all 4 eps. I find the show likeable, esp. the lead girl. I like everyone else in it too, but the lead actor, strangely is not my fav. He was so charming as the quiet and supportive guy in Good Doc, but I can't see the charm here. Wonder if it's becos he has lost weight. It seems to be the trend for K actors to be super taunt in the face now. Some look good that way; some end up looking like they've a triangular face, w a toothy grin.

The teenager (19) looks like Seo In Guk from some angles.

The little boy is funny when he insists he is an Actor in every other sentence.

But it's the 39-er who tucks at the heartstrings, come ep 4.

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I also think 19 kinda has a Seo In Guk vibe going on.

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Yeah, so am not the only one who thinks he looks like SIG

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I always thought he looked like SIG! But nobody seemed to agree whenever I mentioned it.. Glad to see I'm not the only one :D

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He's like a hybrid of Lee Min Ki & Seo In Guk to me haha.

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That is EXACTLY what I was thinking too!

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I thought i was seeing things too. In each episode i caught myself saying 'oh what is Seo In Guk doing here?' in some scenes. It must be the eyes n those pouty lips n hairstyle.

I wait anxiously for each episode of this drama. Thanks for recapping GF.

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As a long time fan of the idol group(BTOB) that 19 is from, even his members confused him for Seo In Guk when they met him before debut. One member even greeted him sunbae-nim as he thought 19 was the real Seo In Guk!

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It seems that the actor who plays the other guy who likes Se-Young has acting skills on a par with Dong-gu. I've yet to see an expression on his face that isn't 'stone-faced'. His delivery isn't particularly revealing either. Maybe his char is supposed to be like that, and that's why he doesn't stand a chance w Se-Y. :)

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He is supposed to be like that. When they introduced him in episode one, they said that he always shows the same expression and they showed a bunch of pictures of the same expression with different emotions underneath it to show that he always looks the same. He doesn't really emote; however if you look at when he's talking about SeYoung or to her or when he was telling JinGu that he had confessed to her, you'll see that his expression softens then and at one point, he even smiled.

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I like the 39er line the most.

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somehow I'm getting bored with the drama already and debating if I should continue. I guess my issue lies with the lead girl, Se-young’s character. I just can't accept it that she never had a hint that Jin Gu's feelings were sincere and thought he was just playing around.
As a girl I've always had my instinct tell me when it comes such things. and I believe it's the same for other girls too. You may not be 100% sure about the how the guy feels when he is super secretive or careful about it but Jin Gu is not that way. Even though he never confessed to her, how could she not notice the way he looks and smiles at her? I mean his every action screams that he is smitten with her! And she even has such close relationship with him!
May be it does happen sometimes but I, from my personal experience, find it hard to believe.
That's why I feel that deep down she knew that he was serious about her yet for some reason she chose not to admit that.Instead she just kept him close to her as 'friend' which I think is a pretty cruel thing to do to a guys who is in love with you.

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They keep hinting that sth happened way back which is keeping him from approaching her honestly. Perhaps when it is revealed it'll make sense as to why she does (dare to) take him (his feelings for her) seriously.

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typo: she doesN'T take him seriously.

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There are several options here. It's possible SeYoung knows about Jingu's feelings and she likes him back but is afraid of ruining the good relationship they already have so she's waiting for him to confess first because she's too afraid to do it. This is a very common scenario in fiction with the friends to lovers trope.

Next, SeYoung could know about JinGu's feelings and not like him back but want to keep him as a friend so she ignores his feelings in the hopes that he will eventually get over her. After all, he has girls falling at his feet and according to the first episode, he supposedly has hooked up with quite a few co-workers. If so, it's very possible that he could develop real feelings for one of the girls he goes out with. If SeYoung knows he likes her but not how much, she might think it's not that serious and assume he'll get over it soon. I've seen this scenario play out in real life.

Next, SeYoung could know about his feelings AND like him back but be afraid to be with him because he's such a playboy. She might feel like he ultimately won't be satisfied with her alone or that they aren't compatible romantically. This would be further exacerbated by JaeBum also confessing to her. She might not want to ruin the boys' friendship by choosing one over the other. So she might again wait and hope that both of their feelings will subside.

And finally, maybe she's just clueless because she's so silly and isn't accustomed to guys falling for her and as such, doesn't believe that an uber-popular playboy like JinGu could actually like her for real.

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I have to say I was really, really upset at the episode when they decided to pull out that ex-girlfriend that gained weight and have Kwang-soo no longer be interested in her because of that. It just really, really rubbed me the wrong way (and of course all of his ex-girlfriends are way better than average looking). Although I'm sure they'll make him "grow up" during the course of the drama (and the high chance that the kid is daughter will contribute to that), but I doubt they are going to pick up the overweight-issue again.

After that I just noticed that the drama was pulling out one cliché after the other, drunk/piggyback, shading the eyes of the loved from the sun, and characters like the girl pursuing Jae-bum (seriously? you really think being overly obvious that you want the guy AND bad-talking another girl behind her back is going to get you the guy?). Chances are someone will get stranded on the island too.

Se-young might know (or not know) but be holding back because of whatever happened in the past. But I found her annoying too, b/c I just don't like babbling drunk characters, they bore me, and somehow I feel like she's playing with both boys a bit (perhaps not on purpose, but she should have some sense of Jin-gu liking her and she needs to be clear with Jae-bum if she rejected him. Why he's still pursuing her if he was rejected? What was the kiss that Jin-gu saw? Forced kiss?).

I don't know. The overweight girlfriend thing just pissed me off so badly that I can't find anything funny anymore in this drama. Very likely to drop it, which is sad because with the 4-boys storyline they could have done something completely different but they are using some clichés and stock characters that make me think this is really not going to be anything new. So I'd rather drop it and let everyone else enjoy it.

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I think JaeBum confessed by kissing her, most likely.

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@alua

So agree about the overweight issue.And the clichés are simply tiring. I mean how many times more will we have to watch these scenes in Kdramas?!

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I understand your points but I respectfully disagree. If she weren't such a good friend of him I'd understand her mistaking his feelings as a momentary thing.
Or may be she really is as naive as you said. But I sure will find it frustrating if Jin Gu finally confesses to her and she's all 'really?! I never knew!'

And if she's ignoring him because of a past issue or because she doesn't want lose him as a friend despite knowing he loves her, then it's kinda selfish isn't it? If she can't forget the past, then she needs to tell him clearly that she won't be able to take their relationship beyond it and give him the chance to make his decision.

If she wants him only as a friend then she needs to give him space and clarify her intention so that he can move on.She can't spend almost all her time with him giggling and flirting(sorry but it appeared that way to me) and expect that he will get over her.
Even though Jin Gu never openly confessed to her, as long as she know how he feels, she can take the initiative to draw the line of their relationship so that he doesn't get hurt anymore.
It's because he is her best friend that she should have made the decision even sooner.Her being elusive just because she doesn't want to lose him is no excuse.

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<she can take the initiative to draw the line of their relationship

...and she needs to do that for BOTH boys.

but at the moment it seems the drama writers are going for 'misunderstanding where either party thinks their love is unrequited despite the very obvious signals from both sides'.

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I am really enjoying this show, but you are spot on about the overweight issue and I hate it every time a drunk girl shows up in a show -- U.S., U.K., Korean, or wherever. Not charming, never cute.

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Am I just imagining it or is it really that recent dramas since YWCFTS have at least 1 scene where the lead girl has a drunk scene? It is not attractive at all for me to watch these scenes.

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There's so much drinking in kdramas (not just girls), drinking to get drunk (and getting drunk to forget things is used all the time too), that it has made me wonder how/if that's reflective of Korean society and if they don't have some serious drinking issues.

From what I understand there's social drinking with work, but do Koreans really drink with their work colleagues (including superiors) to the point that they incapacitate themselves (like Se-young)? I mean, I kept looking at her thinking "You're getting yourself drunk on a work trip?" She didn't even have a reason to get drunk either? Surely she knows how much she can drink before she becomes incapable to walking?

Cultural insight would be appreciated, because I don't know if kdramas are just distorting things or if it's perfectly normal and acceptable behaviour to get yourself totally drunk on a work trip?

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In dramas, the girls so often drink till they pass out, or puke! The guys watch that, piggy back them home, and they kiss! Gross!

I do know that in SK it is Unacceptable to Not drink in social situations where other ppl are drinking. There is so much pressure to drink. No wonder they have such a hi rate of liver cancer, 6th in the world, after several 3rd world countries!

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It really is a bad move to show the woman's face, and automatically assume that he and everyone (viewers) know that she is eliminated! I guess it shows how appearance oriented SK society is. We know that as a society, it puts a gt deal of wt on 'beauty', hence all the plastic surgery and that industry's top rating in the world. Coupled w the lead actor's comments in that infamous interview, it seems to reflect certain core values there. Not that other countries are appearance conscious. Just a matter of degree.

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well yes, as girlfriday said, he's got lots of "growing up" to do both professionally and in his personal life as well, seeing as he's currently living with his sister's family and has gotten demoted from the pd of a popular music show to one that nobody watches. and yes, it's immature of him to have this hope that they look exactly the same, unchanged...but can you blame him for being disappointed in not being able to find even a remnant of the girl that he loved in his first love, from everything to her looks to her behavior? really, it'd be the same no matter if the gender were reversed. what girl would be pleased to find her ex-boyfriend that used to be physically fit and charismatic, to be overweight and completely changed in personality? nobody. physical attraction is important too, and it's hypocritical to deny this.
and to people saying that they're annoyed with se-young not having a clue and "playing" with the boys' feelings, i feel like you haven't been watching the show properly at all. hasn't it been well established that he's a player, or at least acts like one, and se-young fully believes in that image of him? she can't take him seriously because she thinks that he acts that way towards all girls, anyway. secondly, that incident in the past between them that we still don't know about yet. thirdly, it's also been established that she's a bit of a tomboy and not one to actively pursue love, or at least shy in those matters and probably not very sensitive to whether people are crushing on her too. not everyone goes around wondering if that person or this person likes them or not.

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<<but can you blame him for being disappointed in not being able to find even a remnant of the girl that he loved in his first love, from everything to her looks to her behaviour?

I'm not blaming him, I'm blaming the show and the writers because of how they chose that scene and wrote it. They did not have use a "ex now fat" to write off one of the exes.

It was clear from the second he saw her that she was "off" his list for no reason other than being fat. Yes, physical attraction matters but this is someone he knew in the past. Meaning there was something he liked about her – this isn't a stranger. But she's no good now because she doesn't look like a model anymore, which all his other exes still do (that too is a message: none of them is average-looking: they are all beautiful and slim because that's all that will do. This reflects the character but also the show casting only actresses like that.).

Of course physical attraction is a real thing, and physical attraction is a normal part of a relationship. He doesn't need to be physically attracted to her or date her, but the show doesn't need to present her as some sort of lesser human being who is insta-dumped because and only because of her looks.

If the show picked up the issue later on or if she'd be the one he would come to like, it'd be different. But this is just going to be left as "joke" in an early episode, a joke that says "overweight people are no good, remove them from your life".

As for her behaviour – do we know it has changed? I doubt it. I doubt she was a shy and submissive sweetie in the past. Never mind that "persuasive" girls are popular in Korean dramas/film, as long as they are thin and pretty (starting from My Sassy Girl, who just pushes the guy to do whatever she wants). With this character, meanwhile, it's "oh she's fat AND annoying too".

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let's pretend that they are the one and the same actress for now, the younger and older version, for the sake of discussion- her being overweight also changed her facial features. she's not plump, but overweight. and her behavior is that of an ahjumma- an older, middle-aged woman somewhat, in the way that she talks. he's not physically attracted to her and her personality doesn't attract him either. being overweight in japan, and korea too i assume, is not attractive because first of all, it's unhealthy and well, doesn't fit the beauty standards.
what's all this hate on thin and pretty girls? it's not like girls don't place an emphasis on looks as well. male idols are popular because of their looks. acting ability is of course important as well, but probably the most important selling point of an actor is their physical image.
that said, i don't deny that men are allowed much more leniency regarding their physical attractiveness and weight than are women in general society...and i can see how the first ex was played for laughs, and in a predictable way. i see it, but i just think that this surge of hate is a little hypocritical.

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You're so right.

Peaches, there was nothing wrong with her personality; she was spontaneous, easygoing and seemed a confident woman in her thirties. We cannot deny that Kwang Soo dismissed her at the first glance( and hell that you can tell her weight was an issue for her). The doctor had the same personality, but she was slim and that makes her more beautiful. I wish the writers were more careful. Though this is not just a Kdrama problem, I've seen countless examples in American and European shows.

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She knows and she likes him just as much. You can pick that from several scenes actually. Fe the scene were Da In is teasing her about having a bf and she embarrassedly denies and looks at Jin Gu in the mean time, I have to say I caught that after we learned she rejected Jae Bum.
She is obviously careful due to whatever happened to them in the past.

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Wow, this went up so fast! Thank you for the recap.

Man, that Dong-gu is a spoilt brat. And his mother just reinforces his bad behaviour and delusions about his acting! There are ways to let your kid down easy but bribing him is not it. I really hope that in addition to realizing that his acting is terrible, he gets an attitude adjustment too.

Can I just say how shocking it was to see the show portray a serious, committed lesbian couple where both women looked feminine (instead of one looking 'butch')? And Kwangsoo's friend just treated it like a perfectly normal thing instead of something super weird and abnormal. Progressive! It almost made up for the "OMG your first love is fat now!" shtick they went with before. Although I guess you could say that was meant to reflect on Kwangsoo's shallowness, not the writers themselves.

I was shocked by the Da-In reveal and now I'm really curious to find out if he's the father of her child as well (and if he knew) because if not, that's a lot of baggage to sort through. The urology scene was hilarious and very reminiscent of MND, lol.

If I wasn't already on the Jin-gu/SeYoung train, I'm on it now. Their faux date was sooooooooooooo cute, omg, and it's adorable how google-eyed and smitten JinGu gets when he thinks she's not paying attention. Ugh, this love triangle - I don't want to get mad at either boy. :( I'm just glad that JinGu didn't agree to help JaeBum woo her. I wish he had told JaeBum he liked her too though because now whenever he finds out JinGu likes SeYoung too, he's going to feel like a fool.

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Hey guys....is anybody else also suffering from very annoying mobile version of DB??
Please correct it DB staff....the earlier theme was amazing but this one doesn't work properly at all...not able to comment or open up pages...it has been many months...

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I get that from time to time, usually it changes back for me though. If it doesn't you can scroll down to the bottom of the page and change version manually there. (Though I agree, it can be incredibly annoying.)

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Me three.its been months,maybe 5. when I try to open/ click on something on my phone it keeps redirecting to FAQ or about pages.tried to email earlier to complain but kept being redirected so I gave up.desktop version is ok though.happy chuseok drama lovers.off to Google chuseok...:-)

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Thanks for the recap, girlfriday!

I too was very happy to see a Kwang-soo centric episode. His story and Jin-gu's are the ones that really get me in this show. KS because he's 39 and yet he's come to a crossroads in his life that probably should have come a lot sooner, but her was too immature to see it, and now it's being forced upon him by circumstances/his own realizations of his pathetic state. JG because his one-sided love for Se-young is so adorable and heartfelt. The way he looks at her just kills me. Both of them are so relatable, and yet both have major flaws. You know, kind of like real guys. So you want them to get their happy endings but at the same time you don't mind them suffering and growing up a bit on the way there.

Not really feeling 9 or 19 that much, tbh. 9 is a spoilt brat who needs a reality check, and 19 is self-centered and boring. I mean, I know he's a teenager and we were all a bit unpleasant at that age, but when the most interesting thing about a character is the state of his bowels, that's not a great sign.

Which leads me to another small issue I have with this show - I know it's a comedy and Mom is more of a funny plot motivator than a main character, but it bothers me how enabling and delusional she is when it comes to her kids. Obviously no mom is perfect, but you can clearly see that Min-gu is the way he is because she jumped whole hog into the child star thing and then encouraged his delusions of grandeur to the point that he can't function normally in social situations. (And she's proud of the fact that her 5-year-old paid for her home? Really, mom?) Hopefully this is part of the writer's plan and mom will get a character development arc along with her boys. If so then no complaints from me.

Anyway, despite the disproportionate amount of complaining I just did, I am really loving this show. It gives me an Answer Me series vibes without the rage-inducing husband mystery.

Jin-goo, CONFESS ALREADY!

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Sorry, I meant Dong-gu, not Min-gu.

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Lacia ~

Anyway, despite the disproportionate amount of complaining I just did, I am really loving this show.

Hah ! I know the feeling. Overall I do enjoy the show although there are some parts that are flat.

The ex-girfriend segment was so predictable. The worn out "OMG, she's fat joke" {Yawn}.

I mentioned to my wife, "The next one is a lesbian". Yikes, show, you're too predictable.

The soon to to be married doctor was handled much better.

GF, thanks for reminding us who be Da-in was. I was a bit confused at that scene as to who this woman was.

Oh, Se-young’s friend from the café with the young daughter ! Pay attention !

Moving on to the Triangle:

Jin-gu is a "player", how is that to be defined, he's popular, non committal? A series of one night stands? Give us some more background show.

If Se-young has witnessed too much already as a friend and coworker, that might explain why she'd be hesitant for anything deeper. She wouldn't want to be Jin-gu's latest conquest.

Jae Bum taking credit for the breakfast, was just wrong. I can't stand it when people take credit for someone else's work.

I'm hoping we'll see his 'confession" and her rejection,.

The 19 year old story is kind of static. ZZzz. He has the lost notebook. I guess we got some traction here. Other than look pretty, not much so far for Park Cho-rong.

Someone needs to work with Dong-gu rather than letting him carry on in his current state.

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<The soon to to be married doctor was handled much better.

I wondered though why she didn't say she was getting married when he asked her whether she was married. I thought her staff was really unprofessional, being rather insistent on questioning the guy why he was at the doctor's. Other than confidentiality, can't people just go to the doctor because they want a check-up?

<GF, thanks for reminding us who be Da-in was.

I totally missed that too!

<Jae Bum taking credit for the breakfast, was just wrong.

The three of them are actually not such good friends as they are pretending to be. You can give each other credit if you are good friends because you have that kind of level of comfort, even if you like one person and want to score points with them.

<Jin-gu is a “player”, how is that to be defined, he’s popular, non committal? A series of one night stands? Give us some more background show.

I wonder. My impression so far is that he's being branded a player because he talks with every girl, gets their number, flirts with them, and present himself as "Everyone falls in love with me because I'm so handsome/amazing/ etc" BUT there has been absolutely no sign that he dated a single one, or had any real interest, let alone had one-night stands or longer relationships. Which, if Se-young is really that close to him, she should have long realised.

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Thank you, good points all.

It irks me that he's branded a player when he wears his heart on his sleeve. I haven't seen him do anything but flirt goodnaturedly with the girls and women who show him interest. He has never displayed any interest in "taking things to the next level" to anyone but the love of his life.

I think it's just his love interest's way of protecting herself and distinguishing herself from being one of a crowd. On the other hand, I can see where she comes from. It's hard to take a guy seriously when he flirts with almost everyone, it's easy to be insecure in that kind of a relationship, especially when the guy hasn't declared himself.

Which brings me back to: "Thank goodness you kissed her. Let her know how you feel, already! Damn it!".

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Oh. My. God. Their pseudo date. Their frolicking on the beach. Can they be any cuter? This is why my favorite dramaland relationships stem from friendships because best friends are always comfortable with each other. I don't want to hate Jae Bum because you can't blame someone who doesn't know, but I wish he would be a little more perceptive, like understand Se Young's drunken apology translates into "I'm sorry, I can't like you back." But above all else, be more perceptive of his own best friend's feelings. Jae Bum stealing Jin Gu's hangover soup while pushing him out of the way, no less, was maddening. And I doubt Se Young would have figured out Jin Gu was behind everything. Did Jin Gu have a hand at coming up with the pairs since he came up with the singles trip idea? I would have liked to see Jae Bum paired up with Go Eun.

I may be a cynic, but I don't believe it is a good idea to find your future wife amongst your ex-girlfriends because there was a reason you broke up in the first place. I also had no sympathy for Kwang Soo when his college sweetheart looked like Lee Gook Joo. He did not even bother to give her a chance before writing her off. Personality comes first. I laughed at his lesbian ex-girlfriend calling him "hyung." Da In's daughter better not end up being Kwang Soo's daughter he never knew about.

Min Gu's storyline is getting interesting. His Destiny Girl totally left her notebook on purpose. I felt sorry for Min Gu when he complained about Mom only caring about Dong Gu because you can witness her favoritism at home, too, like hitting Min Gu every time he's mean to his little brother. But then again, her babying him is not out of the ordinary because he still is a baby, and I bet Mom doted on Min Gu when he was 9 and 19-year-old Jin Gu got jealous, too. A common occurrence. I felt sorry for Dong Gu when he bursted into tears on the set because he genuinely felt cast aside in favor of the new "it" boy. When is Mom going to break it to him that he can't act?

Thanks for the recap, girlfriday!

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Better than the current over hyped non-cable rom-coms.

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SeYoung and Jingu's third friend and the third person in the love triangle.,is he the guy from "flower boy next door" i've seen him somewhere but can't remember where.
Nways im loving this drama SeYoung and Jingu plotline along with Uncle Kwang-soo's has got me hooked. Even the little kid is adorable.I cracked up when he did his saeguk-speak.LOL. Only Sunjae and Chorong (19ers) plot is kinda boring to me. Its the 3rd episode and the poor girl hasn't even gotten a line.

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I am reading recaps again and that can only mean one thing - i am loving this show!! Ahhh the feeelzzz. I ache and get weepy-ish when i watch this show. It doesnt sound like a good thing but it is!

Very very relatable predicaments for the 29 and 39. But i was like you, girlfriday, going NOOOOO when jaebum took over the hangover soup.

Epi 4 was all sorts of awesome as well. Cant wait for next week.

Thanks for the recaps.

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Kwang-Soo is kind of playing out his own version of High Fidelity (book or film, your choice).

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I really like this drama. It's my first time seeing Kim Young Kwang as a (sorta) leading man, he had great chemistry with Han Groo in Can We Get Married but that was a second lead, he really does well here.

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Loving this drama right now! I like the directing and slice-of-life moments. I'm also a sucker for any drama when the leading male gets that "look" for a certain girl (i.e, JYH in My Secret Hotel, JHW in QIH's Man, Qiu Zhe in Office Girls).

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This drama is just so wonderfully slow and dreamy. I love the pacing. Love 39-er. Kinda hoping the little girl isn't his child because that is sooo overdone in dramas. But it probably is. Would be so good if she had gone out with someone else.

Love the 19 year old's romance. At first I thought, "oh gee teen crush from afar...pipedream." But as I saw his unrestrained no-holds-barred approach to love, I really felt it was refreshing. No angst. No self-doubts. No questioning fate or overthinking...just a free heart that simply goes where the joy is. I love that!

Folks should be directed by joy and intuition. Right now Mom is teaching little 9 year old how to use his skill and joy... but she's using an old paradigm and is freezing the kid in an image, like making him an eternal statue locked in time. She's not allowing his craft to go because she is so hooked into the old image that made him successful. 39 year old uncle lacks the joy and is also not open to change ...when it comes to the work issue. I know he likes music and all but hey...if life gives you lemons, make lemonade.

And 29 year old is kinda trying to break through his old image and ways. But when i see 19 year old....there is just such an immediate joyful intuitive response to life without all the woulda-shoulda-coulda stuff that he really does make my heart soar.

Thanks for the recap.

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I hope Chorong a.k.a Destiny Girl and Min Gu's rival in judo are brother and sister. I think that would be fun lol

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I hope Destiny Girl and Min Gu's rival in judo are brother and sister. I think that would be fun lol

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Thanks for the recap Girlfriday. Really enjoying a peak into the world and lives of the Plus 9 Boys with snippets of Mom.

I applaud the writer Park Yoo-Mi and the network TvN for helping to quell the standard misguided notion - that a drama with the main premise of telling a charming, compelling, fascinating, and romantic story about a range of age groups from different decades (9, 19, 29, and 39) - would be hard pressed to find an audience in terms of ratings and broad market appeal.

The storyline for Koo Gwang-Soo - his ensuing difficulties and journey - have certainly piqued my interest.

It just dawned on me that in a previous episode, the mother was watching You From Another Star. And Do Min-Joon is the name of the main male lead character which of course is also the name of the fellow child actor that Kang Dong-Goo constantly competes with and considers his nemesis. How funny?

So far it seems like each episode gets better and better. Time passes by seamlessly and before you realize it the episode is ending.

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I think the part of this show I like the most is the family stuff. I like it when they're all together, or when most of them are together. It seems so real to me. Love it.

I am finding it really hard to like Jae-bum after that taking-credit-for-the-hangover-soup-thing. Just so wrong.

Otherwise, I like the characters, though Dong-gu needs an attitude adjustment and a huge dose of reality. Mom needs to stop with the coddling and start with the parenting. Please.

Like Jing-gu the most though. Hope he confesses soon!

Thanks for the recap, GF!

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