Oh My Ghostess: Episode 10
by girlfriday
Love is in the air, but along with all of the giddy highs of romance comes a new set of complications for our lovebirds—namely that there are technically three birds in this nest. When your love triangle involves the dead, it raises some interesting questions and crosses a lot of wires, even when all of your messages are happy fluttering hearts and swoony looks.
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EPISODE 10 RECAP
Sun-woo and Soon-ae walk home hand-in-hand, just soaking in giddiness. He says that even with the most delicious food, if you eat it too fast, you’ll get indigestion. He doesn’t want them to get indigestion of the heart by going too fast.
Soon-ae asks a little wistfully, “What if there isn’t much time?” and he scoffs that it’s not like she’s going to die tomorrow. She’s so happy to just sit there holding his hand that she insists on one minute longer.
Mom arrives with pastries for Sun-woo, and they jump up in alarm, barely managing to unlock their hands before she comes up to the roof. Mom wonders what Bong-sun is doing here so late, and Sun-woo awkwardly invents an errand she was here for and sends her home.
Mom catches on right away and comments on Bong-sun’s level and size, and warns Sun-woo not to even try foot-acting in front of her. She knows they’re dating and calls him out on it, but he shoves a pastry in his mouth and ignores her.
This is Mom, without pause: “Why are you changing the subject? Hey, what’s with the dog? Wait, you’re using condoms, right?” He chokes on his food, and she sits down to repeat sincerely, “Son, you have to use condoms.” I’m pretty sure Jo Jung-seok cracks up in earnest right there.
Soon-ae runs down the street to get out of there, and then wonders why her heart is still racing—is it because of Mom, or the handholding? She presses her face against her palm and swoons, which answers that.
Sun-woo insists that there’s nothing going on with him and Bong-sun, and Mom says he can call it whatever he wants, just as long as he’s using condoms. He groans and asks if she really wants to be talking about this stuff with her son, but she says it’s better than him making babies by accident. Truth. Listen to your mother!
Mom finally leaves, and Sun-woo rushes to text Soon-ae that it’s safe to come back. She’s relieved to hear that it went okay, and pouts when he says they should head inside. She mentions getting enough sleep earlier at the motel, and he gets all fired up again at the mention of the motel, and bans the word altogether.
They’re adorable as he walks her home all of five steps to her door, and then they go back and forth insisting on walking the other one home, only for them it’s one step between their doors. He finally gets her to go to bed and chuckles at her cuteness.
Mom heads home and asks Eun-hee about Bong-sun’s character and whether she dates around, and Eun-hee wonders to herself why so many people are curious about Bong-sun lately.
In the middle of the night, Soon-ae sneaks out of Bong-sun’s room and into Sun-woo’s, to watch him sleep. She lies down next to him and is actually able to touch his face, and she sighs, “You’re a ghost—how can you like him for real? What are you going to do? You’re crazy.” Ruh-roh.
She tells herself that it’s okay because she’s just enjoying the feeling of being in a relationship, though she doesn’t sound convinced.
Bong-sun comes outside to get a glass of water and runs into Soon-ae as she’s coming out of Sun-woo’s room. Soon-ae quickly says she was just wandering about because she was bored, and feels awkward when Bong-sun sweetly calls her unni.
Bong-sun says that she doesn’t see other ghosts anymore and is getting good sleep for the first time, and that it’s all because of unni.
Sun-woo comes out because he hears Bong-sun talking, and Soon-ae watches as Sun-woo takes Bong-sun into his room to put a fan together for her.
Bong-sun quietly points out that he put the propeller on backwards and reaches out to wipe the sweat on his brow, and he gets the cutest little smile as he looks at her. Soon-ae hangs back, looking dejected as she watches them.
In the morning, Sun-woo is the one sending Soon-ae little signals in front of the others, as he winks at her to meet him in the locker room. He feeds her herbs to keep her healthy in the sweltering heat, and she presses his hand to her face, calling that her best medicine.
Joon interrupts them to tell Soon-ae about a phone call for her, and looks curiously over at Sun-woo, who’s doing a terrible job of acting natural. Soon-ae picks up the phone and doesn’t realize that it’s Sun-woo’s mom on the line, and when Mom asks for her birthdate, she accidentally answers with her own, not Bong-sun’s.
Not knowing this, Medium Unni reads the fortune at Mom’s request, and says that this girl is already dead. Mom says that can’t be and tells Unni about catching Sun-woo and Bong-sun together last night, and Unni realizes that she’s talking about Soon-ae. She gets hopeful to hear that they were together late at night, but deflates to hear that they were simply talking.
Mom asks about a different birthdate for someone that Sun-woo insists is just a friend, and Unni says this one has had loss but will be happy in her second love if she meets her soulmate.
At that, Mom immediately calls So-hyung out for coffee and shamelessly grills her about her taste in men. She determines that So-hyung sees Sun-woo as a man, and would date him if he made a move. She’s probably already planning their wedding in her head.
Officer Sung-jae drops Eun-hee off at the restaurant and waits to greet Sun-woo, and happens to hear Soon-ae humming a familiar tune. He remembers her singing the same song at Dad’s restaurant years ago, and the way she’d smile to greet him.
Bong-sun does the same now, and it makes him eerily fixated on her. It continues to bother him when he’s at work, as he remembers Dad’s shoelaces tied in Soon-ae’s special way, and he looks up Bong-sun’s information on the computer.
Sun-woo is suuuuper obvious about trying to justify to the guys why he’s taking Soon-ae to the market with him, and she giggles in the car that he was the one who told her to be less conspicuous. She asks if he can drive with one hand because she thinks it looks cool, and of course clasps his free hand the moment he offers it up.
They’re so lovey-dovey at the market that the fruit stand ajumma thinks they’re newlyweds, and Soon-ae enjoys playing along. The ajumma reads faces and says they’ll have a daughter, and that their sexual chemistry is off the charts, making them blush.
Soon-ae sees Dad nearby and introduces Sun-woo, and without asking, she insists on giving Dad a ride back to his restaurant. Sun-woo is a little confused, but politely goes along.
He looks a little taken aback by the empty, shabby restaurant, and Dad says it isn’t much, but it used to be busy when his daughter was here. Sun-woo asks after the daughter, and Dad says she died three years ago.
Soon-ae puts the groceries away for Dad and notices a hose, and Dad says he bought it to make cleaning a little easier, but hasn’t been able to connect it yet. Soon-ae looks up at Sun-woo expectantly, and soon he’s crouching in the kitchen. As we saw with the fan, he’s not all that handy, and they try not to laugh at how much he struggles with the simple task.
Dad is so grateful that he insists on feeding them, and Soon-ae starts to say that Sun-woo can’t eat rice, but he stops her, not wanting to be rude. Aw, he shovels rice and stuffs his face just to be nice, and Soon-ae smiles.
Little bro Kyung-mo comes home and is happy to see Bong-sun, though he’s snappish about her being here with the star chef. He grumbles that he would’ve connected the hose himself, and asks why they’re stuck to each other, earning a silent scowl from noona.
Sun-woo and Soon-ae are so late to return to work that Eun-hee asks what happened, and they blurt at the same time that there was an accident and the car broke down, and Sun-woo is all, “There was an accident? There was an accident! There was. And what happened? Then there was traffic. And then my car happened to break down just in time.” Eun-hee raises an eyebrow at their weirdness.
Sun-woo suffers through the dinner rush on an upset stomach and heads upstairs early. Soon-ae catches him in the hallway to massage his hands, and chides him for eating two bowls of rice. They break apart when Joon walks by and Sun-woo acts like he’s scolding her, and Joon just smiles to himself, clearly aware of what’s going on between them.
That night, Sung-jae opens up his drawer and takes out the cracked cell phone that was hidden away, and in flashback we see a man chasing a woman who looks a lot like Soon-ae down a dark street. She runs for her life, and then offscreen, a piercing scream rings out. Eep.
Sometime later (perhaps that same night?), Sung-jae washes up in a dingy apartment and ignores an incoming call on one of the two phones on his counter. He saunters over to the bathroom casually, where a woman’s body is lying on the ground. Shiiit. All we see is her feet, but they aren’t moving.
Back in the present, Sung-jae contemplates the phone and then takes out a suitcase that’s filled with scary serial kidnapping and/or murder gear and broken security cameras, and tosses the phone inside too. I can’t believe he keeps this stuff lying around his house.
Sun-woo squirms like a big baby when Soon-ae gets ready to prick his finger to relieve his indigestion, and she asks why he ate two whole bowls of rice. He says that it was the polite thing to do in front of an elder, and he felt bad for the ajusshi, who had such sad eyes when he talked about his daughter passing away.
Soon-ae is so touched that she just stares, and he guesses that she’s fallen for him again. He insists on going with her to the drugstore: “What if there are ghosts?” Soon-ae: “Oh, gho…sts…”
He’s feeling better by the walk back, so she requests more handholding. He’s only happy to oblige, and looks a little sad when she breaks contact to run over to a playground. He chases her around, and then makes a big fuss when she trips and falls.
He sits her down to check her foot and treats her so tenderly that she swoons all over again. He wonders why she’s staring, and she replies, “Because I like you. I like you so, so much.” There’s a long beat as they look at each other without saying a word, and then they sit on the swings together, holding hands.
Soon-ae thanks him for all the things she’s been able to do for the first time because of him, like holding hands with the person she likes, or playing in a playground like this, or going on a trip like their staff retreat. He asks what else she’s never done before, and she names things like going to the amusement park or Namsan Tower.
She says that she was too busy to do anything but work, and she thanks him so sincerely for all her new experiences that he darts up and declares that they’ll go on an overnight trip.
She asks why he changed his mind when he was so against her trying to jump him before, and he half-mumbles an admission: “I changed my mind. I want to go on a trip with you. I’m not going to hold back anymore, so you’ve been warned.” It’s her turn to be stunned silent.
Sun-woo looks up hotels in his room that night and wonders if it’s too presumptuous to make a reservation now. He’s so excited about it, hee.
Meanwhile, Soon-ae is in a very different mood on the other side of the wall, and leaves Bong-sun’s body to go visit Medium Unni in the middle of the night. She terrifies her awake, of course, being a ghost and all, and tells her about the trip with Sun-woo.
Unni thinks that’s good news, but wonders why Soon-ae looks so sad about it. Soon-ae doesn’t understand it either—tomorrow she could get what she’s been wanting all this time and finally resolve her grudge and move on…
Soon-ae: “But I’m not happy. Unni, I like Chef so much. The things he says to me, the way he looks at me, the way it feels when he holds my hand—they’re all things I’ve never felt before when I was alive. They’re so warm, and I feel like my heart is softening.”
Unni gasps, and Soon-ae quickly answers, “I know. I’m not Na Bong-sun. I’m just borrowing her body. But… but… it makes me so upset. Why didn’t I experience any of these things when I was alive, instead of when I’m dead?”
Unni cuts her off in a grave tone: “Get it together. Do you know what the most dangerous thing is to a ghost? It’s feelings. You think you’re a person and hurt and feel sad, and happy. And that’s where greed comes from—the greed to remain among the living, even as a malevolent ghost!”
She warns her that malevolent ghosts are not the same as her—they never disappear and wander forever, stuck amongst the worst of people, causing evil. Unni clasps Soon-ae’s hands and begs her to steel herself and resolve her grudge, and move on to a better place. Tears fall as Soon-ae nods, knowing that Unni is right about what she has to do. Unni comforts her and hugs her close, and Soon-ae cries into her shoulder.
Soon-ae is subdued at work the next day, even when Sun-woo whispers his plans to get them out of here as early as possible today. Min-soo chooses today of all days to insist on a staff night out, and Sun-woo has to say no so many times that he ends up snapping at him.
Soon-ae takes the morning to go see Dad, thinking that it’s her last day here as a ghost. She shows him how to do stuff more efficiently in the restaurant, and he picks up on the fact that she’s acting like they won’t see each other for a long time.
She tamps down her tears and says that she just might be busy for a while and can’t come as often, and he promises to do as she instructs. She thinks to herself that she might never see him again, and Dad should stop thinking about her and be healthy and happy with Kyung-mo now.
Sun-woo’s mom is surprised when Medium Unni springs for an expensive lunch, which is just her way of alleviating her guilt about Sun-woo. Mom makes sure that she isn’t moving away because she doesn’t want to lose her only girlfriend, and Unni admits to liking her too. Their friendship is so cute.
Unni says aloud in her vague way that she does feel bad because “it” is with a ghost, “But it’s not like doing it once will make it fall off,” and that they’ll think of it like giving a temple offering. LOL. Of course Mom has no idea that she’s talking about her son.
Sun-woo makes sure to close early and tells Soon-ae to pack and meet upstairs. He notes that she seems quiet, and when he guesses that she’s just so excited that she can’t express it, she goes with that.
But she looks sad when she’s alone, and has to pep-talk herself into packing and going on the trip. She knows she has to stick to her original plan and go, but she wars with herself for wanting to stay just a little longer.
Sun-woo gets delayed when Mom calls him drunk, and he asks Soon-ae to meet him at the train station. She sits on the rooftop thinking back to all the things she’s experienced with Sun-woo, from their first kiss to their first handhold, and decides to put one foot in front of the other.
Sung-jae watches as she leaves and then creeps up to the roof, where the dog barks at him aggressively. If he IS possessed and dogs can see ghosts, it would explain the encounter with the last dog (you’d better not hurt this one!!).
He roots around Bong-sun’s room and finds all of her ghost-warding paraphernalia, from scythe to strings of garlic, crosses, talismans, and ghost-warding beans. He throws them angrily, perhaps having connected all the dots between Soon-ae and Bong-sun.
Sun-woo arrives at the bar to pick Mom up, only to find her totally sober. It’s not even a surprise anymore that she lied about that, but then So-hyung arrives too, and Mom invents an excuse to leave them alone. Moooooooom.
So-hyung suggests a walk on their old college campus, and tells Sun-woo that she actually saw him first when they were in school, but he seemed so uninterested in her. She wonders if maybe they were so comfortable around each other and so used to each other that she didn’t know her own feelings.
He tries to cut her off, but she asks to speak first, knowing that she might not be able to get it out. But he cuts her off anyway since his news has to come first, and tells her that he has someone special in his life.
She can guess that it’s Bong-sun without having to be told, and gets embarrassed at the rejection, wondering how she’s going to face him from now on.
Sun-woo takes a moment to call Soon-ae because he’s late to meet her at the train station, but she doesn’t answer. She’s actually still sitting in the playground in their neighborhood, purposely ignoring the call because she thinks he’s at the station looking for her.
She stares down at her phone and apologizes for not going: “But today isn’t the day. I can’t go like this. I know it’s selfish, but just a little longer… a little longer.”
She comes back home and calls out to Sun-woo, ready for him to be mad at her, but then he arrives behind her and starts apologizing profusely for not showing up. He assumes that she left her phone behind and waited for him, and she doesn’t bother explaining that she didn’t go either.
He makes it up to her by cooking her a fancy steak dinner, and tells her that he’ll always cook whatever she wants to eat. She says that what she really wants is fried intestines, and he cringes, but agrees to do it if she’ll forgive him for tonight.
He promises to make her feel like they went on a trip anyway, and pitches a tent up on the roof. He tells her about being with So-hyung earlier, and that he told her that he was dating someone.
Soon-ae is surprised, and he admits that he’s been dragged around by those feelings for a really long time, and letting go feels like a relief. He turns to her and adds, “What I’m saying is, you have to take responsibility for me. You’re dead if you abandon me.” I love that reversal that he asks HER to take responsibility.
She reaches out to touch his face, and he brings her hand up to his lips to kiss her gently. He kisses her softly on the lips before leaning them down into the tent, where he lies down on top of her and starts to unbutton his shirt. He reaches down to unbutton hers, and she squeezes her eyes shut nervously.
COMMENTS
Ack, this conflict is getting sticky with Soon-ae falling so head over heels for Sun-woo, though it makes sense that she would, not only because of the way he’s treating her, but because of everything she gets to experience for the first time with him. She died so young and her biggest regret is not doing everything she wanted to while she had the chance, so it seems true to character that her feelings are tied to now being able to enjoy life the way she’s always wanted to. The problem is that she’s starting to confuse borrowed time and borrowed body for her own when she’s already dead. And the more that she prolongs staying in Bong-sun’s body, the more it seems like she’s stealing someone else’s experiences to cling to life.
The danger of a ghost having feelings seems to capture all of that, because as Unni told her, the greed to stay among the living is what will turn her very nature into something malevolent. She’s already inching towards that dangerous line by knowingly prolonging her time here, even if she’s told herself that it’s just a little longer. I believe that her feelings are real, which makes one side of this love triangle really bittersweet, but there’s a definite conflict in now sharing a body with Bong-sun if she’s feeling jealous when she’s not possessing her. It’s enough to create a crisis of identity for her, because she has to keep reminding herself that she isn’t Bong-sun, and that this isn’t her life she’s living.
I do wish that the show would balance Bong-sun’s time with Sun-woo a little more, but I’m not as conflicted about his feelings because he sees Soon-ae and Bong-sun as one person. The fact that he misses her blog updates or looks at her the same way whether she’s possessed or not is enough to tell me that he’s not only in love with her when she’s Soon-ae. I just regret that Bong-sun isn’t there for the grand confessions, because I don’t want it to feel like she missed out on her own relationship.
Soon-ae’s angst is very compelling, and I’m certainly rooting for her character, but I don’t want her to ignore the fact that Bong-sun is the one with a whole life ahead of her. Plus I really want her to shift her focus to her own death (which seems to involve a truly terrible series of violent crimes by Sung-jae, gack), not only for her own sake, but to make sure he gets put away for good. Frankly the conflict is richer when Soon-ae’s feelings complicate the romance, so it’s not like I dislike where the story is going—there’s just more danger in how it plays out when loving Sun-woo back means that she could lose sight of the fact that this life isn’t hers to live. I trust that she’ll stop herself from crossing that line, but it’ll probably be a painful process. I guess acceptance is always the hardest part of death, even when you’re the one who’s dead.
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1 Ivoire
August 4, 2015 at 8:56 PM
Thank you for the recap! I apologize: upon rewatching this ep., I realized that my 2nd post in the ep.9 recap’s comments’ section mentioned scenes that actually happened in ep.10. I didn’t remember exactly what I had watched in ep.9, and what was in ep.10. I usually try to keep my comments related to the ep. being recapped at the time.
@ alua, SW’s mom is annoying (I agree with that), however I sometimes like her because of the reactions she gets out of her son. I love watching JJS act surprised and offended, and at times, not knowing how to respond. I have seen him do that in TK2Hs, in YATBLSS and in this drama. And when he does that, it doesn’t get old for me. I do agree with you also that SW does not need to have those kinds of conversations with his mother (about sex, his underwear, etc…), she was out of bounds, and wrong in her assumptions (except for the one about SW and BS dating). Why did the mom even get offended when SW defended himself? His reaction happened because of what she said. Aaaand OK… Having said all of that, SW’s mom did irritate me a lot in this ep. (I just rewatched the ep.).
I however did not like the mom’s comment about BS (her level, her size). So socially, and height-wise, BS is not good enough? Even her height (and her frame) are not good enough? I was under the impression that many Korean men liked small and petite women, was I wrong? (And I am not making a judgement, just making a statement, based on some of the conversations I have had. I could be wrong, and I am OK with that).
I so love how SW and BS flirt, and how SW does not get tired of hearing BS(-SA) tell him that she likes him, awww… I feel that one can tell that it is his first romantic relationship. I also loved that BS actually had a moment with SW (in his room), for once. This ep. made me appreciate SW’s more: the reasons why he kept eating the rice, how he was fretting over BS’s foot, the meal he prepared for her, and how he tried to recreate a camping (overnight) trip experience. But then SW confused me when he changed his mind about being OK with going all the way now. An ep. ago, he said he wanted to wait, and build their relationship slowly. That seemed to matter a great deal to him, so what changed? That left me a little puzzled. Also, like some commenters, I feel uncomfortable about SW doing it with a ghost, ESPECIALLY because he does not know truly what is going on. What is he consenting to?
I find it interesting how SW always tries to look perfect in front of BS (“I am not incompetent when it comes to machinery, I am just out of it, because I just woke up”) and yet she is the one who keeps telling him how things need to be done (at SA’s dad’s restaurant as well, and even the dad noticed it).
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cmak
August 4, 2015 at 10:04 PM
It seems like a throwaway comment by Sun Woo's mom regarding Bong Sun's size, but I feel like it's definitely a cultural thing. My mom always laments my height (although I feel pretty average for an Asian woman), and my boyfriend's mother points out from time to time that I'm short and should be taller. It's not a terrible sticking point, and her comment about Bong Sun's "level" definitely holds more weight, but it was funny to hear it play out in the drama because it felt very relatable to me.
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Cocobeans
August 5, 2015 at 8:32 AM
next time people feel the need to point out your flaws just serve them up one of my favorite Terry Pratchet quotes :
"Sometimes glass glitters more than diamonds because it has more to prove"
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Ivoire
August 6, 2015 at 4:36 PM
Bonjour cocobeans,
I am so glad to see here. I have been meaning to ask you if I could stay in touch with you? If so, please email me here: mlavebey@gmail.com
If not, I will understand. I did see your posts (to me) in the TGWSS recaps (last episodes), and I think I saw you posting here as well (OMG past few recaps). I am glad I was able to find you again. There are a few things I would have liked to discuss with you, one of them being the languages you speak. I speak French as well, by the way. So we have at least two things in common: foreign languages, and our love of Korean dramas. May I add that we also share a common interest (curiosity) in the Korean culture? I hope to hear from you :-)
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Lilly
August 5, 2015 at 11:57 AM
It is an economic class thing the world over as wealthy men tended to marry tall fashion models and that made a lot of the upper elites taller than the general population in different nations
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Quinze
August 5, 2015 at 6:30 PM
Weirdly as an Indian woman of average height by American standards I often stick out like a sore thumb amongst Asian women. I was in a party recently where I was almost a foot taller than 20+ Bengali women.
So for me I've often heard my mother lamenting my tallness lol. I think for my mom she often grew up hearing that tiny women are often "quick and sly thinkers" whereas taller women are more slower on the uptake.
Total BS obviously but still funny. Also totally unrelated to your point.
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2 karen
August 4, 2015 at 8:57 PM
Omg been waiting for this. Love this show so much :) thanks for the recap!
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3 Ivoire
August 4, 2015 at 8:58 PM
Wow! SJ actually left SA’s (dead) body on the floor of his bathroom (for a while). That was cold! I am curious about finding out more about SJ, and about why he killed SA. Why doesn’t SA remember how she died? I hope we will be told why before the end of the drama.
SH lost her chance at dating SW. I am not sure how the culture is in Korea, however couldn’t she have asked SW out, to see if he might be interested in her? Maybe she was just convinced that he didn’t like her. Why was it so important to her that she spoke first? She was going to be rejected anyway (and I am just asking an honest question, not making a snarky comment). I was glad that SW came clean to her, and that he was able to let her go.
With the number of times SW asked BS if she was excited (so many times), I think he was the one being more excited about the trip. SW is such a good boyfriend, he kept apologizing to BS, who didn’t even go to the station. I loved the scene at the restaurant, I thought it was squee-worthy (all of it). And I LOVED HOW SW confessed to BS-SA again, when they were outside, “You have to take responsibility for me. You are dead, if you abandon me.” Awww… I think SA should rethink her actions with SW. All three parties might end up being hurt at some point.
FAVORITE LINES:
SW: where do you live? BS: I live here. SW: Oh Okay! (then takes her home).
Sounds silly (especially since SW is the one who decided she would live there), however, I love those signs of the beginning of a relationship. Like when you are on the phone with your boyfriend, and have nothing more to say, but neither of you wants to hang up, so you stay on the phone for a little while longer, trying to come up with things to say.
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rearwindow
August 4, 2015 at 10:23 PM
I wonder if SJ had a parallel situation to SA--perhaps he was a ghost who fell in love with SA, turned malevolent, and ended up killing her. He would then serve as a cautionary tale to SA to give up her borrowed time & progress to the afterlife.
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lolalarue
August 5, 2015 at 5:18 AM
Wow, that would fit beautifully. I hope it plays out that way. I'm really worried about Bong Sun and Soon Ae.
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Jenni
August 5, 2015 at 7:25 AM
Wowww this is an amazing twist!! I hope it happens! It's making me sad just thinking about it.
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Miky
August 5, 2015 at 11:01 AM
I'm more curious if the original SJ is still alive there or his soul is already consummed..it's pretty clear by now that the spirit possesing him is an evil one,curious if he was from the start evil(when alive a criminal etc.) or became like that after spending too much time and not moving on(like the shaman told SA might happen to her)....it's pretty clear from the moment in his youth before college i guess that SJ was possesed he is trapped in there at the bids of the evil spirit...more curious that i find is that he is sweet to "his" wife and doesn't look like he intends to harm her,is it because of cover as using her or something else
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Nessie
August 5, 2015 at 1:38 PM
@ Miky
Like many of the others thinking that SJ was possssed at such a young age wouldn't that mean the real SJ has been in a sort of comatose state? Like it's been shown that once possessed the original owner won't know what's going on outside, so that means the real SJ is just "sleeping" within himself?
Miky
August 5, 2015 at 3:02 PM
Yeah,i'm curious if the evil spirit possesed him without permision or actually took advantage of that moment and asked being let in,in both cases indeed the true owner of the body is "sleeping" there yet i mentioned about his soul because i'm curious if one spirit being too powerful gets to overthrone the original owner and take his place aka devouring his soul being the new owner...i really hope indeed his wife won't have a baby yet,i guess at the moment it's not possible because of his entity maybe but it would be sad if she has a kid with that evil spirit(even if the body is not his)still being possesed it would make him the one...I'm quite curious if he has whatsoever motivation for his killings or he is just because of his demonic nature...really hope maybe the shaman sensing something is indeed wrong with him
alua
August 4, 2015 at 11:09 PM
<Why was it so important to her that she spoke first?
I don't think it was – it was just the writers manufacturing a cliché scene. There was nothing particularly meaningful about it, they just used this connection between SH and SW whenever they needed it for some other part of the real story (SH has been little more than a plot device) and now it got to the point that they needed to resolve their past "feelings" in order for things to progress for SW.
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growingbeautifully
August 5, 2015 at 12:59 AM
Hi Ivoire (I replied to the last recap post btw! :) )
"Wow! SJ actually left SA’s (dead) body on the floor of his bathroom (for a while). That was cold! I am curious about finding out more about SJ, and about why he killed SA. Why doesn’t SA remember how she died? I hope we will be told why before the end of the drama."
That scene really struck me about that evil spirit in Sung Jae. He cold-bloodedly took a blood coloured (tomato?) drink from the fridge, and walked, sipping it while looking around and at the corpse. Chil-ling!!! This malevolent spirit is really sooo inhuman. More psychopathic even than a human psychopath perhaps. Soon Ae and Shaman Unni and whoever else the evil spirit wants to attack will really have their work cut out for them!!!
About So Hyung wanting to speak first - I felt she wanted to say quickly that she liked him so that she would not lose her nerve... especially as she already guessed that he liked Bong Sun. She knew that if he said he liked BS before she could say she liked him, she'd never get it off her chest. I guess she just wanted to confess for confessing sake and did not want that opportunity to slide. Of course she could still confess after he did, but it would appear that much more pathetic, and so would put her off confessing, I guess. Does that help? :)
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Ivoire
August 6, 2015 at 2:34 PM
Hello GB Unni,
I sent you an email, so please check your inbox, thank you :-)
Thank you for your answer. I also saw your response to my comment in ep.9 recap (thank you for that as well, btw), however, I have not gotten a chance to respond to it (yet). Sorry about that. There are just so many things to deal with in real life, at the moment for me. However please know that I always read your comments, always. You usually make me think, which is a good thing :-)
About your 2nd #, I know that SJ is supposed to have had evil tendencies since he was a child (or early teenager), when he tried to kill his younger sibling. And then we also know that he was physically abused and bullied at school, and that gives us the SJ we have 10, 15 or more so years later (that, and the fact that he is possessed by an evil spirit).
Still, seeing how he left SA's body on the cold floor (after killing her, I am assuming), and as you said, went and got himself a red-like drink, left a strong impression in me. It was still hard to see that, especially since the person in question was SA. "Chilling" as you called it, was the right word. And I totally agree with what you said here, "This malevolent spirit is really sooo inhuman. More psychopathic even than a human psychopath perhaps. Soon Ae and Shaman Unni and whoever else the evil spirit wants to attack will really have their work cut out for them!!!"
Thank you for your explanation in your 3rd #, and yes, that helped a lot, as what you said made sense. She just seemed (to me) so bent on telling him, and on speaking 1st, that I wondered why she was so intent on going 1st. I am saying that b/c by ep.10, she had to have known that an opportunity to date SW had been lost, since she knew that he liked BS (or SA) already. I am taking SH's reaction as her wanting to confess, so she herself could move on, since she would have had some kind of closure as well. Sometimes, even when we do not get what we want (the boyfriend, the job, the apartment, house, etc...), it is good to do something (whatever that something might be), so we can have closure and move on. Hopefully that something won't harm us, or others.
I did feel bad for SH, at how embarrassed she felt. I could feel her emotions through the screen, and I kind of understand her (kind of...). SH is a beautiful woman (and that actress plays her well. She has grown in her acting skills. She was in Smile Donghae, with JCW, and I didn't think she was very good in it. I like her here though. She was also in MDSY with LSY and PHJ). Shaman Unni said that she would do better romantically next time. I hope so, for her sake.
I have some questions for you GB Unni, however I need to go prepare for an interview now, so I will have to be back later. Please check your email inbox, thank you! :-)
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growingbeautifully
August 6, 2015 at 10:45 PM
@Ivoire
Read you loud and clear and yes I did the necessary with regards to the email. :)
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Ivoire
August 6, 2015 at 11:22 PM
Hello GB Unni,
I checked my email not long ago, and saw your responses, so thank you. I will email you back soon.
Man!!!!! Long gone are the Liar Game days, when I could respond to comments, and write to my heart content. Do you remember those days? We did meet on LG recaps, didn't we? Did you check out Yon-pal episodes? If you did, will you comment on them? I will be back with my questions.
Alessar
August 5, 2015 at 7:06 AM
I'm really concerned by this flashback.
I'm thinking SA is not actually a virgin, but doesn't know that.
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4 anne
August 4, 2015 at 9:01 PM
After Oppaya vs Chilbongie shipping war, here's Bong Sun vs Soon Ae fanwars. I have read some threads and basically everyone has been talking about who deserves Chef more.
I just trust the writer that s/he gives Bong Sun a happily ever after with Sun Woo and Soon Ae gets justice for being killed by Sung Jae.
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nomad
August 4, 2015 at 9:14 PM
true! I'm really surprised how many fans really root for Soon Ae to just take over Bong Sun's body. It bothers me a whole lot, it's like saying "oh, it's okay to rob someone from her own life's experience because...well, the ghost is more fun!" I get totally that Soon Ae seems more fun, but to completely occupy anything of anyone is just plain wrong.
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Who's Scruffy Looking
August 4, 2015 at 10:32 PM
Don't they realize if she stays in Bong Sun's body she will turn evil?
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Jon G.
August 5, 2015 at 1:13 AM
Just because you are evil doesn't mean you don't deserve love.
Maybe she can kill SW and make him a ghost too, and then after three years, they can live happily ever after ...
As Virgil put it: Love conquers all.
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anabear
August 5, 2015 at 2:41 AM
^hahaha this. and they'll live happily ever after, killing one person and the next, ala Sightseers (2012).
Cocobeans
August 5, 2015 at 8:37 AM
so did the romans, and they are now at the same place Virgil is...dead. Guess who Always wins in the end?
AJK
August 5, 2015 at 9:09 AM
Well -- Love seems to have conquered Dido right into an early grave while Aeneas got off pretty much scot-free.
ju
August 5, 2015 at 11:40 AM
I find this really disturbing and I am disapointed that Bong Sun didn't have much time with Sun Woo. I would like to see more of the growth of Bong Sun's character.
Don't get me wrong, I like Soon Ae but it doesn't feel right that Bong Sun is missing those turning points in her relationship with Sun Woo.
However reading Girlfriday's comment brings me peace of mind because I wasn't sure what to think of the tension Soon ae's feelings for Sun Woo.
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nomad
August 5, 2015 at 12:04 PM
Me too! The more it goes on, the more disturbing I find. I want Bong Sun to grow!
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ju
August 6, 2015 at 2:32 AM
Yeah I was hoping that Soon Ae will help Bong Sun to grow but doesn't it look like she is helping Bong Sun to hide from life instead? Encouraging in another form her tendency to be introverted?
alua
August 4, 2015 at 11:11 PM
<who deserves Chef more.
He deserves someone else entirely IMO, who is honest with him from the start, someone who neither pretends to be someone else, nor someone that is okay with him being used for something.
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Fitri Iphiet
August 4, 2015 at 11:44 PM
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Quinze
August 5, 2015 at 7:18 PM
Joon! For hero worshipping the man so loyally!
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elective
August 5, 2015 at 5:57 AM
Assuming Soon ae is the first lead, and assuming she is the one Chef is truly in love with, this means I have second lead syndrome for Na Bong. My first experience. A female at that. Now that is something new for dramaland ? I kinda love it (still hoping my assumptions are wrong, though).
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5 bil
August 4, 2015 at 9:02 PM
trueee!
it's sad that bong sun only get status as chef's girlfriend and not the lovey dovey things chef did or said to her.
I think 1 ep is enough with soon ae did things with chef but 2 episodes is a meh, and she didn't give bong sun chance together with chef even just for a while! uggghh, now I know why many people said she's annoying.
and bong sun, why you didn't update your blog? WHYYYY? it's the other way to make chef love her as bong sun, when he's realize the blog author.
6 more episodes to go and I still hoping the plot will back to the right track, bong sun fight for her love, soon ae fight for finding truth about her death, and chef still love bong sun as bong sun.
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SpinThePickle
August 6, 2015 at 5:36 AM
She hasn't updated the blog because she has only been herself for such short periods of time! She gets to have a conversation with Chef and then SA pops back in. I want to see BS tell SA to give her more time.
"Thanks for setting us up, I'll take it from here. I'll let you know when we are having sex the first time so you can come get your 'payment'."
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Impish-noona
August 7, 2015 at 1:33 AM
I'm thinking that maybe SA will do it with SW and she won't "pass on" and realise that her grudge isn't being a virgin ghost but because she was unjustly killed by SJ. Then I hope the writers will finally give BS some time with SW while BS and SA find who killed her. Hopefully.
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6 neener ~ Inside the Magic Shop ~
August 4, 2015 at 9:02 PM
MY gosh this episode! Too much feels!
I love Soo Ae and I understand her conflicted feelings but I wish she will completely realize that Chef is for Bong Sun and not hers. We've seen enough arc of Soo Ae's life, now I want to see Bong Sun's change too after her interaction with Soo Ae and I do hope we will get it this week :)
Nonetheless, still enjoying the show and the tidbits of Sung Jae's past.
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7 fay17
August 4, 2015 at 9:12 PM
While I agree with what you're saying..but to be exact..'This' is the main concept of this story..to have these 'conflicts'..they make the girl having her own moments when her life is lost ...as the main center of attention..and how she comes around and sets everything right in the process.The sequence of all these scenes here just points more at the direction that how all these moments happened between the chef and when Bong was being possessed..by Soon Ae..who 'Is" somehow having a first time of everything..the trip,dates,someone next to her..and all.So while Bong is the one with the life ahead..Bong would be able to take lesson from this incident and maybe would become a better person.And she basically gave permission to the ghost to take control of her life..so it is a flawed character to be honest.But it's okay to make mistakes I think..We just kind of try to have our own version of the story..which makes it all so much complicated lol..at the end.
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kalel
August 4, 2015 at 11:31 PM
Well said, @sky! Since I don't think I'll be able to comment in OMG threads ever again ( JB usually has the spead of light on this one while I personally watch it days later :-). Thanks, KCON!), I find your comment on spot and quite...sane, tbh.
I didn't know there was a war going on until I had the chance to read this week's recaps plus comments. I was speechless! People were mixing imagination and reality in the same ball, projecting personal thoughts, complexes and experiences and all that while commenting on something completely fictional. Not to mention the endless conversation about the "ghost's sexuality". I can't, for the life of "ghost-ess", see which part of this comedy is responsible for all this unsual uproar!
Thank goodness, I usually watch the TV series in marathon sessions, so I just have a vague idea what's going on around the blogosphere!
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fay17
August 5, 2015 at 12:07 AM
Hahah..not that I want to post any spoilers..but it's just sad seeing that most of the audience is not happy with the story line itself that concerns with 'the ghost girl-trying-to-fix-her afterlife?' So what caters more..is it love or is it human life which is more valued here? I'm a bit at loss.
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fay17
August 5, 2015 at 12:13 AM
Btw
' Not to mention the endless conversation about the “ghost’s sexuality”. I can’t, for the life of “ghost-ess”, see which part of this comedy is responsible for all this unsual uproar!'
That was epic.lol
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Kate
August 6, 2015 at 12:39 AM
Well, any writing work - if it's a book, a movie script or (like in this case) drama script wants to touch the things we do not really think about. The writers tell a story and ask "There are two individualties in one body. What extactly made chef like Na Bong Sung?", "Do we like somebody because of their appearance, charakter or presence in whole?". It is so interesting because he actually likes both of them, but which one he really loves?
I think that chef can relate a lot to Na Bong Sun- he was just like her. And I think there was something about her that made him a little uncomfortable (which was pointed out by his sister in the first episode). I think he is probably in love with Na Bong Sun and that's why I don't pity her at all. I feel really bad foor Soon Ae. A smart and witty girl with such a gold heart - annoying sometimes, but for God's sake, nobody is perfect is dead and started to actually love somebody.
Either way, a writing works or any of art works are all about asking questions - "What if, What would you?". Not many of korean dramas are asking the questions and if there any it means there are good.
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8 anniemo
August 4, 2015 at 9:19 PM
I really do wish we were spending a larger percentage of our time with Bong Sun at this point. Especially since (unlike when Soon Ae is at the helm) Bong Sun being in possession of her own body doesn't make Soon Ae disappear for us, the viewers. It frustrates the daylights out of me that she completely disappears for long stretches of time. More so as time goes on. By right of being alive, this is her romance. Why can't she be a more active participant in the story? Why is Sun Woo still spending so much more time with Soon Ae than her? I keep hoping and hoping for the end of near full-episode possessions and they just keep coming. At episode 10, I want my fill of happy (cute) OTP scenes before the angst hits. That's what happens when you reach episode 10!! It's not like angst isn't obviously right around the corner (*cough cough* episode 12 *cough cough*). I feel sorry for Soon Ae and her conundrum, but the Little Steamroller That Could has gotten to spend alooooooot of time with Sun Woo. It really needs to be Bong Sun's turn now.
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010309
August 4, 2015 at 9:44 PM
"Especially since (unlike when Soon Ae is at the helm) Bong Sun being in possession of her own body doesn’t make Soon Ae disappear for us, the viewers. It frustrates the daylights out of me that she completely disappears for long stretches of time. More so as time goes on."
Exactly.
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haje
August 4, 2015 at 10:20 PM
"Especially since (unlike when Soon Ae is at the helm) Bong Sun being in possession of her own body doesn’t make Soon Ae disappear for us, the viewers."
this is so spot on. my feelings on this soon ae/bong sun matter would be MUCH different if similar to soon ae we actually see bong sun even when soon ae is in bong sun's body because at least we'd get her perspective on things and she's somewhat active in the story. i'd still have my frustrations but it wouldn't quite be as big as it currently is, at least.
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rearwindow
August 4, 2015 at 10:28 PM
Agreed. Dramatically, Soon Ae being outside of Bong Sun's body is actually juicier in my opinion because you can externalize the jealousy she's feeling, have her friendship with Bong Sun continue to develop, have her enlist Bong Sun in solving the mystery, etc.
Plus, we don't have to worry about who Sun Woo is actually falling for. Unless the story is intending to be a tragedy about a ghost falling in love with a man and having to give him up to progress to the afterlife (in which case, they probably should've made it clearer that he is not in love with Bong Sun), it is bothersome that Bong Sun has had such limited interaction with Sun Woo at this point.
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anniemo
August 4, 2015 at 10:40 PM
Agreed right back at you on everything you just said. All the missed opportunities are killing me! Her relationship with Soon Ae could be so much more dynamic and since this story really has only one possible ending (unless he suddenly becomes single-mindedly devoted to Soon Ae and this show goes to a very dark place) she really should be the one getting to spend the majority of the time with him.
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rearwindow
August 5, 2015 at 6:41 AM
Totally! There's also something so fundamentally sad about Bong Sun being so willing to just allow someone else to live her life because it's easier than doing it on her own. It's totally fitting with her character, and sets her up for some possible growth down the line--but that growth will only be satisfying if we see it and if the current dynamic is problematized for Bong Sun. For the first time, I'm finding myself wishing that this were a 20+ episode drama, because there is so much territory left to explore and I'm concerned that they won't be able to explore it in time for a satisfying ending, given that we only have 6 eps left.
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anniemo
August 5, 2015 at 6:53 PM
That's another reason why the long Bong Sun-less stretches of time are so infuriating! I want to get to see Bong Sun take charge of and live her own life. With a measly 6 episodes left, how the heck is she supposed to have time to grow and have her own story arc? Especially if she's not even around 90% of the time!! If the possessions had only been shorter, we could have had episode 10's events happen much earlier (say 6 or 8). I don't see Soon Ae growing by leaps and bounds that her story arc couldn't have been condensed. By a lot. A lot a lot.
crazyahjummafan
August 5, 2015 at 12:42 AM
I agree with you that Soon Ae should "have her friendship with Bong Sun continue to develop, have her enlist Bong Sun in solving the mystery, etc."
I love their sisterhood and Soon Ae needs to find out how she died and have some closure there, more than her need to get laid.
Personally, I was rather irritated by the way she kept pushing SW to sleep with her, just on their first date. She was way too forward and had no consideration for his feelings. A lesser man would have just taken advantage of her. I'm actually surprised that he didn't break off with her there and then. So I'm glad that she backed off.
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fanitha
August 5, 2015 at 7:24 AM
I totally agree,I'm kind of annoyed that Soon Ae is getting all the romance for herself, I don't quit get what the show is wanting to tell us with this? Is this a show about romance with a ghost or what? I want Bong Sun to live her relationship with the Chef she is the one that is alive!
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Quinze
August 5, 2015 at 6:44 PM
This is exactly what I'm confused about. Why is Bong Sun showing up only a cursory reminder to the viewer that "Oh yea...bong sun's there too! Now back to the SA show!"
That first week I honestly thought that the writer would really balance this show out with both perspectives. Even if SA had more screen time, I truly didn't expect that they'd almost completely overshadow her character development and presence. And if we were going to get so much SA why the hell is her plot moving so slow? It's like watching hair grow.
It takes you 10 episodes to tell me SA's in love with chef? I could see the progression from Chef's perspective more naturally bec he's had to accept two warring personalities causing chaos in his life.
But honestly this whole SungJae is possessed/evil/a serial killer line is inching forward. We already KNOW he's effing shady. We knew that 6 episodes ago. Show me something that's actually going to TELL me something. We already suspect he had something to do with SA. We're not cretins!
This show has so much potential it keeps tossing away for the "SA is a pervy GHOST!With FEELINGS!" story and I'm damn near sick of it. I swear I'm sticking around just for JJS and PBY.
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es
August 5, 2015 at 10:00 PM
+11111 to everything you said and to this entire thread omg.
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KompaktneHaare
August 6, 2015 at 1:55 PM
YES. THIS. My frustration with this situation grew and grew while watching ep 9 and then 10..
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Impish-noona
August 7, 2015 at 1:34 AM
I'm thinking that maybe SA will do it with SW and she won't "pass on" and realise that her grudge isn't being a virgin ghost but because she was unjustly killed by SJ. Then I hope the writers will finally give BS some time with SW while BS and SA find who killed her. Hopefully.
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9 Riya
August 4, 2015 at 9:19 PM
I don't like Soon Ae. Period.
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vanillasalt
August 4, 2015 at 10:41 PM
Same. After ep 9 and her overwhelming persistence of wanting sex right after they had gotten together, I was really annoyed with her.
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Fitri Iphiet
August 5, 2015 at 12:01 AM
i dont like both soon ae and bongsun. none of them deserve to be with chef.
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Nessie
August 5, 2015 at 1:53 PM
I'm starting to feel like the dog fits with SW best, at least he'll warn SW when SJ appears.
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sooyoung
August 6, 2015 at 1:56 AM
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Spi
August 7, 2015 at 1:03 AM
I don't like Chef. He's so boring. Joon is a lot more interesting. And both Bong Sun and Soon Ae deserve someone better than a man who mainly shouts at others and bluffs all the time to know stuff. This is the first Korean drama I've seen in which I find it hard to swoon over the male lead.
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10 crazyahjummafan
August 4, 2015 at 9:21 PM
I'm really concerned about whether Soon-ae will go through the act with chef.
1) Will it affect chef? Remember all the bodies that mysteriously became very cold in the first ep?
2) Imagine poor BS, after SA leaves her body, to find out that she is no longer a virgin and missing the entire experience.
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11 haydee
August 4, 2015 at 9:32 PM
Just my observation:
When BS/SA went home looking for chef on the later part, was it Bong Sun??? The way she calls chef and the way she acts. I dont know.
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anabear
August 5, 2015 at 3:06 AM
I noticed that too. In the recent eps, it's kind of hard to tell if PBY is acting BS or SA. Sometimes, I find BS as lively as SA, while SA as quiet as BS. It's no longer black and white. Was it part of the process, or the acting just got lazy?
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Nessie
August 5, 2015 at 2:01 PM
@ Anabear
I thought it was just SA being a bit depressed that she had to leave SW so soon. Now that I think about it whenever SA gets a bit depressed it feels like BS is appearing.
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12 jam
August 4, 2015 at 9:32 PM
i know it's the premise of the show to have SA .. but gosh danggit i want BS to also experience all the sincere things chef is saying/doing :(
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13 Nessie
August 4, 2015 at 9:43 PM
Yuushhhh it's finally here, thanks for the recap!
Before all I must say, give me a Kang Sun Woo over a Chaebol anyday!
Yes points to Mom mentioning contraception, whether she is possessed or not, protection is the most important thing! Although Mom meddled and got So-hyung involved, I'm glad they still got her relationship with SW resolved. I'd hate for them to throw her in again somewhere down the show to fight for SW. In a sense this episode pretty much closed the other two romantic relationship options to me. Joon smiling about BS & SW indicates he knows whats going on and accepts it. While So-hyung got her closure as her and SW are honest with eachother.
I just realized BS got less than a minute screentime in this episode haha I feel sad how I'm starting to get used to this. However SA and the Shaman scene did really touch me. It's funny how BS calls SA unni, while in turn SA calls Shaman unni, it's like the living seeking advice from the dead, who in turn is seeking advice back from the living. SA's mother died when she was really young right, so I find it sweet how Shaman unni acts as a guide for her both spiritually but emotionally.
Speaking on SW's confession, the first time he confessed was to BS, but this time he's confessing to SA. Ah show why are you doing this to me. Some people are speculating that SA actually left BS's body right before the end of the episode, if that really happened what a twist. I
Regarding Sung-Jae, when he threw those red beans in the room, I was thinking dude are you gonna pick up those beans individually, or are you just gonna leave traces that someone has ransacked BS's room? I have a feeling he must've knocked SA out on the streets then murdered her in the shower possibly, but as to what connection it has with water I still have no clue. He drowned her out with a showerhead? Romantic development aside I'm now more interested in what SJ is going to do, because since he is possessed that means he can see ghosts. Will he get to meet SA in ghost form? I wonder if we'll have a situation similar to BS being locked in during their camping trip.
I noticed the actor for Min Woo is from Highschool King of Savvy, but is the actress for Eun-Hee as well? Wasn't she the one who played the short haired office lady? There are 6 more episodes to go, so lets hope we get some more balance and development on the murder mystery.
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cmak
August 4, 2015 at 10:06 PM
LOL @ your comment about the beans because I thought the same thing! Clearly Bong Sun did not notice when she went back to her room.
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BedeliaJane
August 4, 2015 at 11:23 PM
Haha, yup, same thoughts on the beans!
Yup, Eun Hee was the shorthaired lady who had the office romance with the guy whose sentences often got cut off. The medium unni was lee hana's mom in that show, if I'm not wrong.
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Nessie
August 5, 2015 at 1:32 PM
Oh wow Shaman lady did play mom haha
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crazyahjummafan
August 5, 2015 at 12:50 AM
I think that Soon Ae somehow witnessed the hit-and-run accident. (If I'm not mistaken, she was quite smitten with Sung Jae.) And when he realised that, he started to chase her, probably knocked her out and then threw her over the bridge, to make it look like she had committed suicide.
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Nessie
August 5, 2015 at 1:34 PM
I'm guessing that's most likely what happened too, I wonder as a ghost if SA walks past that bridge she'd feel something or remember something since that was the place she died? I hope there's a explanation as to why she can't remember why she died, or is it normal for all ghosts to not remember how they die.
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14 shilpa
August 4, 2015 at 9:51 PM
I think .SA and chef are not going to go through the deed ... the story is soo gripping.. it makes you lookforward to each episode . this is the first time happening with me while watching a K drama. otherwise i loose interest in between with cliche story, scene and predictability.
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15 nanno
August 4, 2015 at 9:51 PM
If this had been a novel, i think the main female lead will be the ghost and bong sun will be supporting. I am frustrated that bong sun didnt get to experience the special moments with chef too. When will SA remember her death? When SJ attacks bong sun? I think SA was not dead yet when she was in SJ's toilet, because she had nightmares of drowning.
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KDramaNewbie
August 4, 2015 at 10:16 PM
The ghost is the lead in the drama too! Imagine Arang and the magistrate, but add the wrinkle that Arang had to possess someone.
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kalel
August 4, 2015 at 11:35 PM
+1! Quite an analogy, KDN! You're absolutely right and @nanno, too.
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16 Linarrick
August 4, 2015 at 9:57 PM
The fact that SW is a fan of BS's blog just proves that he's a fan, being a fan doesn't correlate to being in love.
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August 5, 2015 at 9:14 AM
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August 5, 2015 at 4:28 PM
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sooyoung
August 6, 2015 at 2:00 AM
no one really deserves SW tbh. Like really, they both lied, they're both selfish so yeah. And I like SW-SA btw but nope, none of them really deserve him.
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fantasy
August 5, 2015 at 8:17 PM
Here I am not defending anyone and it is not that I desperately want Soon Ae to end up with Chef, I will be happy if BS and Chef is the end game (which has the 99% chances). My complain is about the show, the show does not let me think that chef actually likes BS (just MY opinion)
"I dont know which YOU I LOVE !!!" is not a very uncommon subject in dramas, love stories. Like a story where a man fell for a beautiful lady writer, who actually was not real, she has a secretary Ghost writer. He was a fan of her writing, and fell for her writing skills. But he got a chance to work with her, gradually discovers who the real writer was? there was a back story about the fake writer too and the protagonist had spent almost equal time with both the ladies, discovering their different sides and emotionally attached with both.
So I want to say , Show if you want BS to be the main lady or really want to create right amount of angst then please please, let Sun Woo discover the real Bong Sun more. A blog fan is not enough. Sun Woo has been opened up to BS's cooking skill but he has surprized by SA's dish too. He has met Soon Ae's family even Soon Ae's possible murder is connected to Sun Woo. If someone says he likes BS since before, does it matter??? more than BS he liked PD Lee before but BS changed it. The one and only positive point that BS has is the confession, yes that was direct to BS , not SA
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sooyoung
August 6, 2015 at 2:03 AM
it was direct to both BS and SA. one body but different personalities. SW likes both personalities. without SA's personality, he won't like BS and without BS's personality, he won't like SA so yeah. IMO.
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17 cmak
August 4, 2015 at 10:08 PM
Thank you, girlfriday, for your awesome recap because you hit every point that I was thinking while watching this episode! I don't even find myself rooting for Bong Sun to assert her independence and ownership anymore because she so easily gave it up to Soon Ae to make Sun Woo hers and does not seem to put up much of a fight to spend more time in her own body or in the relationship with chef. I'm just hoping the show will figure out a way to resolve all the issues it's presented to us and do so in a satisfying way. Until Friday!
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18 Cricket_Bell
August 4, 2015 at 10:09 PM
Although I completely hate how much SA is experiencing all of the important moments with SW, I love how much we are seeing what could have been if she was still alive. It's bittersweet and breaks my heart. I loved when she was telling the Shaman lady about where she stood with her feelings. Such a heartfelt moment. I love SA more when I see her in those moments where she gets serious and it isn't so cheery all the time.
I would like her to realize her place isn't with SW and leave him to BS. SJ is so damn scary and I love that in these episodes they have been revealing what happened between him and SA. More than the romance, I am really invested in how SA and BS confront SJ.
I really liked how the romance was going before episodes 9 but now I can't get to it as much. I am looking forward to the next 6 eps though.
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19 genuinecity
August 4, 2015 at 10:09 PM
OOOOOOOH, interesting! Gotta go back and watch that part now. What a twist that would be!
Thanks for the recap, girlfriday!
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20 Lizzie
August 4, 2015 at 10:10 PM
I really don't think Soonae will go through with it..I really hope she doesn't because I really want the Chef and Bongsun to have that memory together..gah I love Soonae but feel bad Bongsun. Writers bring her back!! We need more of her!!
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21 Gidget
August 4, 2015 at 10:13 PM
I guess the problem that I'm having with the show is how I'm supposed to believe SA has any legitimate part in the love line.
SW spent multiple episodes telling SA to take meds because her personality was so annoying. In contrast, when BS was in her own body he seemed relieved. Finally in this episode he started responding to SA; however that was only after she abandoned her own personality and started acting like BS.
That makes the issue of who he likes pretty clear.
Then add to this how much SE steamrolls and manipulates BS for the sake of her own agenda. (Like keeping her in the dark that the chef prefers her personality. Because letting her know means BS might realize she doesn't need SA.) She isn't just borrowing BS's body, she's commandeered her whole life.
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ian
August 5, 2015 at 12:07 AM
Aha! So someone else has noticed. When SW is with SA, he's more annoyed and keeps on wanting her to go back to normal. So much so that he took her to a doctor to get treated. It's more tolerance than anything. But when he's with BS, he gets all nice and sincere. The dynamics between the two interactions are so different. Like how much he has been averse to SA's persistence to have sex but when she became sincere at the playground, it's SW himself who decides to go on with it.
I don't know how the writer will resolve this conflict because there's also the matter of SW finding out he's being lied to by someone he fell for after so mamy years of liking the pd. Nt to mention we also need to solve SA's death.
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Treaya
August 5, 2015 at 9:48 PM
I don't get that feeling from Sun Woo. Maybe at first but that makes sense, Bong Sun went from meek to aggressive in the span of less than a day. He was not prepared for that. Also, she was being way too aggressive during work and he's got a reputation and image to uphold and she didn't respect his wishes at all. When Bong Sun reverted back, Sun Woo got some time to relax and think. But over time he didn't seem to care as much if she reverted back to the old Bong Sun or not.
He was more worried that she was having a mental breakdown and something he may have caused. She is working in a kitchen with knives. Don't know about you but if a worker is exhibiting massive behavioural differences at unpredictable times and he/she is working with dangerous equipment like knives, either get that person help or let him/her go before he/she impales somebody.
As for the meds, there are times she crosses the line a bit and he says it. He's also worried that she might do something crazy and hurt herself or others. Doesn't mean he doesn't like Soon Ae, just means he wants her to tone it down. I don't think the meds are designed to return her back to the original Bong Sun rather bring her to an intermediate point between the two extremes.
I believe that Soon Ae's Bong Sun is the version Sun Woo likes but toned down a bit. Even when Sun Woo was putting together the fan and fixing the hose, he seemed to have preferred Soon Ae stepping up and telling him what he did wrong rather Bong Sun's approach of sitting back and telling him after he put everything together. He opened up to Soon Ae's carefree yet caring nature, not Bong Sun's reserved yet caring nature.
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sooyoung
August 6, 2015 at 2:10 AM
i'm sorry but this is my opinion (i respect your opinion though ^_^). okay, i don't really think SW is FULLY annoyed at SA's personality. i mean, he was shocked and maybe a little annoyed (a little) but we can't really say he was REALLY ANNOYED because of her personality cause we can see how he can smile and laugh when he's with SA. and without SA's personality, SW wouldn't even notice BS that much. I know people are saying he 'liked' her from the beginning but i don't really think so. BS reminded SW of his past so he really didn't care much and sometimes annoyed by her because she was being so timid and helpless. And we can clearly see who's drama this is right? it's PBY's but it's SA's not BS. (The title) Oh My 'Ghostess'.
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22 panshel
August 4, 2015 at 10:16 PM
Sigh, this show. I can't see how the writers can overcome this conflict. Sun Woo may like them both, but he definitely likes Soon Ae. When she was crying, I wanted to comfort her, "He likes you, too!" As nice as the fan moment was between Sun Woo and Bong Sun, in his eyes, that was just a softer version of Soon Ae. He probably figured his "let's take it slow" advice was finally getting through to her because it's not like he has never shared bonding moments with Soon Ae. When she's not trying to jump his bones, she is actually very real with him as shown when she tried to cheer him up after his high school revenge went awry. The little he sees of Bong Sun is not that different for him to suspect he is dating someone other than Soon Ae. He has only ever known Soon Ae, ergo he likes Soon Ae.
How old is Bong Sun? In her twenties? Since Soon Ae is a ghost, I assume she retained her youthful features at the time of her death, yet is older than Bong Sun since Bong Sun called her unni. When Soon Ae gave Mom her real birth year of 1984, shouldn't Mom suspect why Bong Sun is older than her real age? So Hyung was born in 1983 according to Mom's slip of paper, and Bong Sun can't be only one year younger, can she? At least there's a way out of this, since Mom can just think Bong Sun was lying about her birthdate. When Soon Ae bumped into Dad at the market, I immediately thought, "Look who's meeting their father-in-law." I can't believe Sun Woo stayed to eat when he had a legitimate reason to leave, namely the start of their dinner shift.
Thanks for the recap, girlfriday!
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fay17
August 4, 2015 at 11:08 PM
love all of what you said out there.
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kalel
August 5, 2015 at 12:02 AM
+1! Although I couldn't see what the writers had in mind to begin with, I completely understand this is one pure fictional story. They can take their plot anywhere they like, within some cultural restrictions, imho.
Your questions are legit, @panshel. SAand SW are obviously older than BS and perhaps that's why SW is a bit embarrassed to let his mom know about his too young gf. And yes, he does meet his "father-in-law" since this is not a casual relationship, right? And I do believe all three are virgins, too. Zero dating experience! :-0
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alua
August 5, 2015 at 12:55 AM
< They can take their plot anywhere they like
I wish they would, but I just don't think that's going to happen. I still think they are playing by kdrama rules and will send Soon-ae to heaven (not by having sex but by doing a good deed and letting go of her greed and giving SW to BS) and will have SW and BS be endgame in accordance to OTP rules. I'd be all for them to be gutsy and kill off BS and have Soon-ae occupy her body permanently and then turn into an evil spirit. It still wouldn't make me like Soon-ae but at least it would be a daring way to end the drama. But, I don't think anything of this sort it will happen – rather the writers are just going to skim over bits and will try to sell us a BS/SW happy-ever-after when at this point these two characters' feelings amount barely more than admiring the other's blog and a scrap book + admiring a guy from afar.
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kalel
August 5, 2015 at 3:05 AM
Personally, I would love a daring finale as well but let's not forget that this a TV show and has to comply with certain rules no matter how exquisite is in terms of plot and acting. If it was a film scenario, I'm sure things would have been handled quite differently. But norms and tropes are dominant in k-dramaland.
However these writers also gave us Potato Star and the ending in that one was the least expected. So, I'm ready for anything: love, death or even amnesia for one or two or all of them, LOL. It's a supernatural universe where anything is possible during these hot summer days - like a love interlude before the first rain of autumn:-)
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sooyoung
August 6, 2015 at 2:18 AM
not every kdrama has that ending hahaha. let's not forget 'stairway to heaven' and such stories where the main girl dies. so i still think there's a really BIG chance he's in love with SA but then she still need to go to heaven BUT... let's all see JJS cry because of SA leaving. THAT WOULD BE AN AWESOME ENDING. and maybe BS will have her ever after tooooo! BS & CORDON! hahahaha
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23 BedeliaJane
August 4, 2015 at 10:20 PM
Are they done with the cooking show? I quite like those parts. Maybe they could have one with the real Bong Sun and then she'll cook her cabbage porridge and that would be how SW realizes she's the Sunshine blogger.
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anabear
August 5, 2015 at 3:40 AM
ooooh~ sounds like a swoon-worthy scene. :)
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Nessie
August 5, 2015 at 3:51 PM
I'm really hoping that they make BS cook the cabbage porridge somewhere down the line!
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Chesens
August 6, 2015 at 1:42 AM
Yes! Me likes this scene to happen too!
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24 Dissenter
August 4, 2015 at 10:22 PM
My theory about the why of the murder - The teenage boy that SJ possessed was beaten down, lonely, and vulnerable. I think SA's crush on SJ may have made the inner SJ actually have a reason for wanting to live his life; thereby strengthening his spirit and posing a danger to the evil spirit inhabiting SJ's body. So the evil spirit killed SA to completely destroy any fight left in inner SJ. That scene with SA running and then her still body on the ground was chilling. I even wondered for a moment if SA died a virgin. *vomit* But, if Evil Spirit's desire was just to eliminate the thread then he probably just killed her.
Just a curious thought, but I thought that evil spirits would cause chaos, violence, etc, simply because they enjoy it and it's their nature. But, it seems as though SJ Evil Spirit always has a reason for his violence. He doesn't just commit random acts of atrocity for fun. So then how is he different from any immoral person (example, power-hungry chaebols in almost all K-dramas, that is - except for those ... most of those...not playing romantic male leads)?
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Dissenter
August 4, 2015 at 10:58 PM
oops, I meant - eliminate the threat
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Linarrick
August 4, 2015 at 11:23 PM
Interesting point, but then I wonder why the Evil Spirit needs to cover up and eliminate the evidence concerning the killing of SA in the first place. Couldn't the Evil Spirit detach itself from SJ and possess some other unfortunate soul/body and let the "real SJ" deal with the consequences?
Why does the Evil Spirit continue to possess SJ for such a long time? Is it stuck there?
If the evil spirit was stuck in SJ's body, then like you said it makes sense to eliminate the threat if the real SJ was responding to SA's affection. This only works tho, if in overcoming the possession it means that it will eliminate the Evil Spirit's entire existence.
And thus this subsequently explains why
1. The Evil Spirit killed SA
2. Why Evil Spirit is covering up its tracks
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Wasabi
August 5, 2015 at 8:25 AM
I don't think SA died a virgin either. :( And so I think the thing that she needs to clear up so that she can go to heaven isn't to lose her virginity (as she is lead to think due to her loss of memory) but to find the murderer.
I don't think she will stay in the body when they "do the deed" because like the kiss, SA had mentioned that she was knocked out of the body cuz BS got too hot.
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25 Audrey
August 4, 2015 at 10:27 PM
Okay, there are many reasons right now why they won't "do it": Soon Ae isn't ready for her vicarious existence to be over yet because she really doesn't want to leave Chef yet---how that will finally play out remains to be seen. And Bong Sun is still in there somewhere and isn't ready for this...cue, Soon Ae and Bong Sun confrontation...gotta happen sometime, and if it doesn't happen now, it never will and I don't see that happening. Time for the girls to somehow get real with each other. Finally. And I think it's gotta be "Bong Sun time" and it will be interesting to see how that unfolds, along with Sun Ae wistfulness and admitted greediness for all that she previously missed out on. And get this: although Sun Woo desires Bong Sun as a lovely woman, I don't think he is ready for this development either---I see him wanting her to not "miss out", like she has missed out on so many things (per her admittance at the playground), so I see his motivation of giving her what she earnestly seems to need and want (plus, when you haven't "done it" before and really do have the sincere "hots" for your lady-love, well, there is certainly a compelling motive to go ahead and see/feel what you have been missing all this time), BUT, I see him actually being relieved when Bong Sun or whoever puts the brakes on and backs off. Why? Because, lust or love aside, it is really not in his character to go through with this at this stage of their relationship. Guess we'll see in episode 11, but I'd put money on, uh, like no way...not yet...
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Dissenter
August 4, 2015 at 10:36 PM
Maybe they will do the deed. Then SW would wake up the next morning next to a SA sitting in lotus position, eyes heaven-bound, muttering about why she's not seeing the light. Yeah....they're not doing it.
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26 GailBernadine
August 4, 2015 at 10:44 PM
I have another theory on why SJ killed SA. I thing SJ was actually responsible for Eun Hee's accident and Soon Ae was a witness to the accident that's why he had to kill her. And he made it look like suicide by dumping her into the river. What do you think?
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Linarrick
August 4, 2015 at 11:48 PM
That's probably the most logical explanation, there is only one thing that doesn't match up tho, if SJ wanted to cause harm to EH why didn't he let her commit suicide?
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angela
August 5, 2015 at 1:12 AM
He maybe does not want to harm her. He just wanted to stop her from becoming a dancer. Then he stopped her suicide attempt. She would be forever be in his grasp and control.
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Saner
August 5, 2015 at 3:14 AM
Also, Medium Unni mentioned that the person in their wedding photo was different to the more recent photo - maybe the Evil spirit lets go every now and then and the kindly person on the roof top was the real Sung Jae.
Plus, it lets the evil spiriti stay close to Eun Hee and have a 'personal' reason to stay on top of news regarding her Hit and Run so he can 'clea'r evidence when hit comes up.
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peaches
August 5, 2015 at 5:45 PM
i think maybe he wasn't possessed when he stopped her from doing that, because of how he said he didn't remember when eun hee brought it up.
like lots of people have been saying, i have so many questions about his possession: has he lost his original self to the evil spirit completely? or is he still "sleeping" inside, preserved as an adolescent? or do they take turns? does the evil spirit keep all the evidence in the house because it can just leave the body if things become inconvenient? or is it trapped in sung jae's body, hence the need to keep up appearances? if dogs can sense ghosts, why doesn't the corgi bark at soon-ae anymore? so many questions, hope they'll all be answered......
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27 Heartily
August 4, 2015 at 11:00 PM
So good.... So romantic yet so aching. Thank you so much for the recap.
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28 alua
August 4, 2015 at 11:05 PM
My issue isn't that Soon-ae falls in love with Sun-woo. That's a development that isn't all that problematic and makes sense when she's with this really nice guy.
My issue is that Sun-woo clearly has feelings for both Soon-ae and Bong-su (and, given the amount of time he has spent with Soon-ae over Bong-su, the balance has tipped towards Soon-ae, particularly in this episode). Wondering about Bong-su's blog is just not a counterbalance. I read plenty of people's blogs, like them and sometimes they go offline and I'm like "ahhhhh" (some I've even emailed to check on them). That has nothing to do with love or relationship-building, but what Sun-woo is doing is putting his feelings into a relationship involving mostly Soon-ae at this point that is going to fall apart. And he doesn't even know it, because he has been lied to from the start. But somehow, no one seems to have an issue with this – Bong-su least of all though she absolutely should as a human being.
Bong-su sadly is a hollow side-show at this point.
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kelsie
August 4, 2015 at 11:48 PM
While "hollow side-show" feels a little harsh, :) I agree.
I think BS is a very sympathetic character, and has the potential to be fascinating, however the show never gives her any screen time to develop. The character's flaws, and their ability to be wonderful anyway, are what's best about this show, they're not giving any of that same magic to BS and i hope that change soon!
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alua
August 5, 2015 at 1:23 AM
BS had the potential to be a fascinating character, but the writers seem to have forgotten her. The only solid read we got on her was in episode one, before she was possessed. Since then, she has been barely there.
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anabear
August 5, 2015 at 3:56 AM
she's the real ghost of the show, ironically.
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BedeliaJane
August 5, 2015 at 5:40 AM
LOL! Good one, anabear!
shinayame
August 5, 2015 at 12:01 AM
That's true. Sun Woo still thinks Bong Sun has bipolar disorder, and he doesn't even know that the blog is hers. Every grand moment in this relationship has happened with Soon Ae and it seems like, going forward, that's going to keep on happening, so it's like the only part Bong Sun is playing in the relationship is the part of the possessed body. When Soon Ae finally crosses over, how much of a relationship will there really be, since one half can't even remember it?
Also, does anyone know if Bong Sun knows what Soon Ae's grudge is? 'Coz meek or not, I can't see her willingly give her body over like that.
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29 Audrey
August 4, 2015 at 11:10 PM
Got a comment that's really important to me in re: this series; I've seen enough k-dramas to know that sometimes the acting, producing, directing, or writing can literally kill a good show---and that can actually happen anywhere in between start and finish, but the killing moment usually happens towards the end. Plot can slack off, drag or just plain die out on a damned, lame ending. This drama has the potential to be a "classic", a drama that stands out as a beautiful gem, a lovely moment in k-drama history. The next six episodes will be a test to see if the production team can carry this off: success is within their grasp to make this a truly memorable k-drama event. The acting here is just plain great and the plot lines have truly marvelous potential---please, make this little gem a great one in its finality. You can do it.
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kalel
August 5, 2015 at 12:08 AM
+1! Unless raging fans plus netizens destroy the writers' idea, this show can really make it to everyone's top-10. Next year's recommendation to newly converts to k-dramaland! :-)
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Nessie
August 5, 2015 at 3:58 PM
But the thing with Knetizens at this point is that many of them actually pity BS, and want more scenes of her with SW. So I don't think the writer will be swayed by those online opinions...
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sooyoung
August 6, 2015 at 2:25 AM
i just really want this drama to be what it truly is. if the writers thought of having BS & SW to be the end-game, they should stick with it but if they thought of having SA & SW the end-game (ala stairway to heaven) then STICK TO IT! don't change anything just because fans want BS and SW or SA and SW. STICK TO THE ENDING YOU WANT! hahaha. i just really hope the fans and raging fans won't let the writer change his/her mind.
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Nessie
August 6, 2015 at 1:40 PM
@ sooyoung
Kdramas hardly do what we want, but still we suffer through them even if they disappoint us for the love of our actors. Yea let's hope they have a good path down the line for the upcoming episodes.
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30 Kit
August 4, 2015 at 11:17 PM
Shy characters with self esteem aren't 'boring'. That's as ridiculous as thinking all shy people are 'nice': just because they're not calling you out on your stupidity doesn't mean they're not thinking it.
The only reason Bongsun supposedly has no personality is because the writers didn't give her one. Or at least, aren't showing enough of her. I adore the character, prersonally, and that's because of the great acting.
I sympathise with soonae and think she's a great character but bc bongsun is non existent right now, she's only making me angry.
Please be good, next couple of episodes. Please make bongsun feel uncomfortable or jealous of this set up. Please make them fight and sulk and only band together to hunt down a psychopathic killer.
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alua
August 4, 2015 at 11:21 PM
<The only reason Bongsun supposedly has no personality is because the writers didn’t give her one.
That. She's a flat character. We barely know her, because she is underwritten, underused and hasn't really been developed. It's the like writers are expecting us to fill the gaps just because she is played by the same actress as the one for the possessed Bong-su.
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es
August 6, 2015 at 6:45 AM
"Shy characters with self esteem aren’t ‘boring’. That’s as ridiculous as thinking all shy people are ‘nice': just because they’re not calling you out on your stupidity doesn’t mean they’re not thinking it."
this. and i really liked bong-sun at first too, but yeah i agree, now i mostly just feel frustrated with soon-ae, more than i normally would with that kind of character.
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31 kelsie
August 4, 2015 at 11:31 PM
I actually have a huge problem with how little BS is in the relationship. It's not even close to 50/50. SW is in a relation ship with SA that BS sometimes gets flashes of. BS likes him but it’s still in that creepy stalkerish way that her scrapbook indicated. None of the important moment have been with her, she doesn’t know him at all.
I enjoy this show but SA is our only heroine at the moment and thats a problem.
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32 SuziQ
August 4, 2015 at 11:40 PM
Glad they finally gave So Hyung the heave-ho. She was getting irritating and didn't get the message that he is not into you....
Don't think they will do the deed. It's still too early in the plot. Soon Ae is conflicted and feels she has fallen for Sun Woo which is understandable. He is TOO CUTE in this episode with Bong Sun/Soon Ae? If they do actually do the deed, won't it be a threesome? Too gross...to imagine.
Just love Sun Woo's mom and the medium unnie. They are just like old girlfriends. It be sad if they had to give up their friendship later.
Sung jae is getting the creeps on. I like Lim Ju Hwan inTamra, the Island so it's weird seeing him as a villain. Sun jae is too nice and then he does bad bad things. Bad ghost.
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33 bizzare65
August 4, 2015 at 11:43 PM
At this point of time I feel like Soon Ae is the main lead, NBS is just supporting cast XD
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Jon G.
August 5, 2015 at 1:41 AM
If by "at this point" you mean "since episode 2", then I agree.
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sooyoung
August 6, 2015 at 2:27 AM
didn't we all know this at the beginning? hahaha i mean, it wasn't titled 'OH MY GHOSTESS' for no reason....
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34 peaches
August 4, 2015 at 11:43 PM
girlfriday put it better than i could have, but exactly- the emergence of the love triangle admittedly makes for a richer conflict and it makes sense on a character level too, because soon-ae, while having experienced one-sided love, has never known what it's like to have her feelings reciprocated and who wouldn't fall in love with a person like sun-woo, who looks at her that way? and yet........despite loving love triangles usually, i wished that it wouldn't go this way because i'd liked bong-sun and seon-ae's bonding so much- ex. skipping together, discussing tactics like buying a new slip
WHERE IS BONG-SUN
also, minor complaints: yes, exactly, why would sung-jae keep all the evidence of his dastardly deeds in a suitcase in his house??? that's going to be incriminating evidence, right? he seems like he would be much smarter than to leave stuff like that lying around...-_-; or maybe, if the evil spirit is in full control with the host completely oblivious, it doesn't care either way since it can just leave the body if things go wrong. and the fact that he found dad's shoelaces suspicious is weird too, before asking about it. since as his daughter, she probably would have done the same for him while she was alive. or maybe dad had stopped tying them that way until bong-sun did, and sung-jae had noticed it because of the time lapse.
i'm not into all the hate for soon-ae that's floating around, or for bong-sun for that matter- i do love both characters, and the drama itself. just a bit worried about how things will turn out, but i'm loving this drama all the same.
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35 coolrepublica I heart Ji Sung
August 4, 2015 at 11:47 PM
I want Soon Ae to have the sex she wants so she will know that it is not what is keeping her there.
She could leave the body again and let Bong sun do the deed, but most likely she will freaks out.
I wish the girl would just have some nerve and stop apologizing so much. She wants Chef too, she shouldn't need a ghost to get to him. She is pretty sweet herself.
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Jon G.
August 5, 2015 at 1:09 AM
Good thing is: She stopped apologising that much, mostly because she's no longer doing anything in this show.
And, as you said, evidence dictates that she doesn't really want the Chef. She just wanted to stop SH from "having" him.
Sometimes stalker-lovers are like that, they know they cannot have their object of obsession (OoO), and they accept that up to a point. But when they face a situation where they think their OoO might find happiness with someone else, they will put and end to that, even if that means they have to make a pact with the devil.
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angela
August 5, 2015 at 1:23 AM
I think people like BS who maybe has been called weird or something similar through out their dang lives by others tend to have a very low opinion of themselves. They don't believe that they deserved or worthy of being love by anyone. I bet they even hate themselves.
Just look at SW. He has his own insecurities. Mom abandoned him when he was a kid. So maybe he grew up thinking that there must be something lacking in him that even his own mom failed to love him. He disguised them well behind his cockiness.
That why I believe he just drag his crush over PD Lee for years because actually he was waiting for some kind of signal from her that she was into him.
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Marina
August 5, 2015 at 2:17 AM
@Ida
Of course BS seems weird to other people - she can't help it because she sees ghosts around her when others don't. That means she has a valid reason to act like an anti-social and always terrified of something person.
I like that SW has very normal realtshionship with his mother, he isn't holding any grudges. What a pleasant surprise for a male lead in Kdrama - he understands and forgives weaknesses, (mom is alcoholic, BS is "bipolar") and he doesn't go on murderous rampage for being abandoned by his mommy as a child. Just saying. That was a jib at I Remember You show which slowly turns into a farce, by the sheer number of serial killers gathering at the dinner table.
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angela
August 5, 2015 at 4:11 AM
@Marina
IRY glorifies serial killers. Enuf said.
SW will always has a soft spot for misfit.
He collected misfits. Look at his "family" in the kitchen.
Jon G.
August 5, 2015 at 1:28 AM
Yeah, that would be fun.
It's D-Day morning. Bong-sun wakes up and rubs her eyes. As her vision clears, she recognises Soon-ae in front of her.
Soon-ae: "Morning, sleepy head. I will take it from here, okie-doke?"
POSSESS!
Suddenly Bong-sun recovers consciousness. She's wet with sweat, she cannot see anything, something heavy is pressing down onto her body. A sudden penetrating, stinging pain in her abdomen makes her scream.
She hears Soon-ae's voice wispering in her ear: "Congratulations, you are no longer a virgin!"
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growingbeautifully
August 5, 2015 at 1:35 AM
@Jon G.
Scary!!! But truly what could happen! If Soon Ae gets involuntarily evicted and Bong Sun is suddenly back with Sun Woo in that position - won't it seem like rape to her?
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36 sora
August 5, 2015 at 12:11 AM
I was waiting for this recap! Thank you so much! Things are getting so sticky now and I feel so bad for Soon Ae. Does anyone think that chef should know that he is dating two women?
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growingbeautifully
August 5, 2015 at 1:32 AM
@Sora
Yes, certainly... I've been all for truth telling at every opportunity, but neither Bong Sun nor Soon Ae nor the Shaman unni seem to think that, that is of consequence! It makes for great conflict in the story but is so sad for the relationship built on lies.
To poor Chef, it's not that he's dating 2 women... he will be horrified to know that he is dating the body of one and actually the ghost of another. I know I'd freak out if ever I thought my nearest and dearest was a ghost!!!
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37 Linarrick
August 5, 2015 at 12:40 AM
I swear both of the Kang siblings are in for a surprise!
I can understand SW's predicament, he is being lied to and being manipulated but man does he have it good compared to his sister.
I would hate to put myself in EH’s shoes. Not only is she married to a murderer; she is also married to the very person who put her in a wheelchair. The fact is, she is in a very vulnerable position, it's hard for her to protect herself, she can't physically run away, the only people can trust is her mother and brother and forget the police since her husband is the police!
This is quite dark and I'm not sure how the drama will handle it, it'd be disappointed if they gloss of the consequences of finding out the truth for example EH being traumatized and SA's realization of the horrific events leading to her death.
I'm not sure how the drama can keep its light-hearted rom com tone. Particularly when they only have six episodes to tie everything together.
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38 Ramenlee
August 5, 2015 at 12:50 AM
Just want comment on song Soo Ae sings in ep 3 and hums in this one.... it's one of famous russian song by Alla Pugacheva called Million Scarlet Rose.... Alla Pugacheva was so famous in 80s and I grove up close to soviet union so instanly recognized it... it's about poor artist, who is loves actress, who loves flowers so he sold his home bought her millions of rose....
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growingbeautifully
August 5, 2015 at 1:28 AM
@Ramenlee
Thanks for this information... I wonder if there's an indirect tie in with Sun Woo's mum's dream, where she sees Sun Woo in a field of dead flowers. It is a bit extreme to sell one's home to buy flowers, but maybe we can say Soon Ae is sort of selling her soul or risking it, to experience more of human feelings which she is not meant to be experiencing. It's poignant and sad.
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Michikohime
September 6, 2015 at 1:43 PM
But she sings it in Korean though, right? I wonder what's the name of the korean song inspired by that russion song. It's really pretty.
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39 liz
August 5, 2015 at 1:13 AM
People asked their age:
Na Bong Sun (28, chef's assistant at Sun Restaurant)
Kang Sun Woo (33, chef & owner at Sun Restaurant)
Choi Sung Jae (32, police officer, Sun Woo's brother-in-law)
Shin Soon Ae (virgin ghost, spirit no. 0825)
Lee So Hyung (33, PD)
Kang Eun Hee (31, Sun Woo's younger sister, Sung Jae's wife
Damn, giving PBY 28 years is a bit... too much? I would give her character 25~
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40 hibeautiful
August 5, 2015 at 1:19 AM
Me toooo.. Been waiting for this recap! Thanks GF ^^
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41 growingbeautifully
August 5, 2015 at 1:23 AM
Thanks GF!
"Soon-ae’s angst is very compelling, and I’m certainly rooting for her character, but I don’t want her to ignore the fact that Bong-sun is the one with a whole life ahead of her."
Much as I disapprove of what Soon Ae is doing, I still do not dislike her. I want her to find the generosity to sacrifice what she wants although it seems so unfair. And I'm thinking she'll also soon need the courage to fight the evil spirit in Sung Jae... maybe in the process saving Bong Sun, then she'll redeem so much of what needs redemption that she can leave peacefully. I'm also rooting for her that she'll choose rightly.
"Plus I really want her to shift her focus to her own death ..."
Yes, so do I. A very big hole in her memory that the show has not addressed or shown that she is even trying to fill.
"Frankly the conflict is richer when Soon-ae’s feelings complicate the romance, ...—there’s just more danger in how it plays out when loving Sun-woo back means that she could lose sight of the fact that this life isn’t hers to live."
What will satisfy is that she really loves him. The kind of love that puts the other first, no matter how much it hurts. Then she'd really have grown.
"... but it’ll probably be a painful process. I guess acceptance is always the hardest part of death, even when you’re the one who’s dead."
Yes, acceptance of the loss of anything is painful, even if a loss is not because of death, we mourn the loss of youth, of health, of the use of our limbs, the parting of ways ... as long as we are in the world. The thing is, Soon Ae is not supposed to be in the world and so is not supposed to have anything more in the world to feel loss over. In fact, believing that death is not an end, (and this is a belief that is played out in several kdramas), she is meant to have left the world, to gain so much more. And what she will gain in her afterlife is way beyond comparison to what she is hungering for here. The irony is that she is latching on to the human feelings and forgetting that the future she was trying to solve the grudge for, is meant to be so much more rewarding. I hope she regains her focus soon!
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42 mary
August 5, 2015 at 1:28 AM
Just wanted to say thanks for the recap, and your end comments are lovely. :)
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43 growingbeautifully
August 5, 2015 at 1:53 AM
I had a bit of fun noticing the irony in this episode.
First we had Chef telling SA to match his slower pace, to take it slow for a long, long time and that eating too fast gives indigestion.... BUT ... in just 2 days, (I believe it's within 2 days?) he's the one in a rush, he's the one who has eaten too fast and is having indigestion literally, and he's the one suggesting the overnight trip and was excited about it all day. LOL!
Then we have Sun Woo’s mother, Hye Young telling Eun Hee that she should bee a better judge of character ... and this is ironic because Hye Young herself and everyone else (except the dogs) have been duped by Sung Jae for years.
And we have Bong Sun calling Soon Ae unni, and thanking her that she sleeps better because ghosts do not disturb her now! LOL! What do you know, ghost unni is really into not disturbing you anymore because she's thinking of not leaving your body!!! – IRONY!!!
And finally Chef refuses to let Soon Ae go out on her own to buy medicine, not because it's not safe for a girl to out alone at night because of bad people, but because of ghosts! I felt that Soon Ae did not know whether to laugh or to cry at that, since that word of caution should have been directed by Chef to himself!!!
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Jon G.
August 5, 2015 at 7:33 AM
In the end, Soon-ae is right about her mating technique: Just rub your body long enough against the body of your mating partner. Ignore all the talk, it's just for show. Deep down, he's a man, and he thinks with his penis.
This show is really instructive!
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44 Nabi
August 5, 2015 at 1:57 AM
Episode 11 preview text:
불의의 사고로 봉선과 하룻밤을 보내게 된 선우.
천천히 가자는 말과는 정반대의 행동을 보인다.
자신의 죽음에 대해 의문을 품기 시작한 순애. 순애의 다이어리는 성재의 손에 들어가게 되는데...
한편, 전과 같지 않은 순애의 행동에 봉선은 놀라고,
선우와 봉선의 다정한 모습을 보며 순애도 마음을 정리해간다
-Due to a sudden accident, Bong-sun and Sun-woo spend a night together.
-He (note: It's not specified 'who' is the subject, but it can be implied that it's Sun-woo) acts completely opposite to what he said earlier about 'going slow'.
-Soon-ae begins to have questions about her death.
-Soon-ae's diary finds its way into Sung-jae's hands...
-Meanwhile, Bong-sun is surprised at how Soon-ae acts differently from before,
-and Soon-ae watches the intimacy between BS and SW and decides to move on.
:)
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Nabi
August 5, 2015 at 1:58 AM
BTW feel free to post my translation anywhere you want.
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anabear
August 5, 2015 at 6:35 AM
just saw the preview. flirty chef for the win, hihi. can't wait for next ep! :)
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shilpa
August 6, 2015 at 11:05 PM
Nabi ..thank you!! i did saw the preview but didn't understand it without subs..
you helped me with the curiosity :)
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45 growingbeautifully
August 5, 2015 at 2:11 AM
I felt that Kim Seul Gi really knocked it out of the park in her scene with Shaman unni. She actually has very little screen time (as actress KSG) but with that short scene, she was sooo good; so deeply moving was that conversation. I could not approve of what she wanted, but I felt for her big time.
A word on behalf of Bong Sun, who as side character has really been relegated to the side, who seems so naive she is not aware of the terrible pitfall that she is allowing to grow right beside or inside her. I find that in the possession scenario, everyone gets some consideration, but Bong Sun is forgotten. Shaman consoles Soon Ae, Shaman feels bad for Sun Woo who is the son of her friend and does not consider that Bong Sun should be warned about allowing possession of a spirit nearing the end of her 3-year tenure. Soon Ae merely acknowledges Bong Sun as temporary host but does have a word of concern for her. A bit sad, this.
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46 Kang Sun Woo
August 5, 2015 at 2:35 AM
ep 11 preview!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wo_nQDlGWzE
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Helenya
August 5, 2015 at 4:35 AM
The first scene and caption, OMG it is hilarious!
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Nessie
August 5, 2015 at 7:35 PM
OMG THAT PREVIEW hahahhaah Eeek now I'm real excited for the next episode!
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47 So ok
August 5, 2015 at 3:07 AM
I suspect SA's unresolved grudge is not about losing her viginity but about finding justice for her ruthless death.
Imagine, in next episode they go through the deed and yet SA doesn't get to leave.
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48 klmeri
August 5, 2015 at 3:48 AM
I am truly not certain how I feel about this drama anymore. I started out rooting for BS as the shy girl with the crush on her boss, even when she was at the extreme of being shy and self-deprecating, to the point that I wanted to shout at her to grow a backbone. I understand that she came to realize Soon-Ae's possession was an opportunity for her to become close to her crush, thinking that she was too introverted to do it herself. I'll even go out on a limb here and infer by granting Soon-Ae permission to possess her and pursure Chef, she fully acknowledged and accepted that this meant Soon-Ae would use her body intimiately with Chef. She couldn't have not known that, because Soon-Ae explained in no sugar-coated terms what she wanted out of the deal. One would logically conclude, then, that Bong Sun was willing to give up her "first" experiences with Chef for the sake of simply being in a relationship with him. But, knowing all this, it goes against my gut reaction during each and every episode when Soon-Ae, in possession of a body that isn't hers, woos Sun-Woo a little closer to her side. I think it's because I want BS to have those moments of intimacy she wishes for so badly regardless of the fact that she placed herself in a position that prevents her from experiencing them.
Matters have gotten worse, however. Now that Soon-Ae has discovered she likes Sun-Woo herself, I feel truly cheated for BS. Those precious moments are no longer just characterized Soon-Ae-Masquerading-As-Bong-Sun and Sun-Woo but as Soon-Ae and Sun-Woo - the couple. The entire intent has changed. Soon-Ae now has, as she put it, "greed" at wanting to date Sun-Woo. And, whoops, she is in somebody else's body while she does it!
That makes the pact itself between girl and ghost feel less genuine. Soon-Ae is dangerously skirting the line of acting solely on her own behalf with no care for Bong-Sun at all, which is where we first started with this possession game. I also feel that once Soon-Ae's darker side takes more control, she will give over to more moments of greed. That would be a shame, indeed, because Bong-Sun and Soon-Ae had a genuine kinship and a budding trust. Instead of respectfully accomplishing their goals as a team, they will end up at odds with Bong-Sun feeling used and cheated and Soon-Ae feeling jealous and covetous.
I am just not happy about this change. BS is fading away, lulled into thinking she has Sun-Woo while she remains dormant and the reality couldn't be more different. Soon-Ae has Sun-Woo - and poor Sun-Woo is as much in love with the ghost, if not more, as he is with the meek girl he thought he knew.
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alua
August 5, 2015 at 5:20 AM
<Soon-Ae is dangerously skirting the line of acting solely on her own behalf with no care for Bong-Sun at all
Well, I'm not sure Soon-ae really ever cared for Bong-sun. She didn't propose the deal out of kindness of her heart – she just presented it as "You get something out of this" but she wanted it because she needed it, and it was the only way she thought she could resolve her grudge. Bong-sun always stood more to lose than to gain from the situation, regardless of whether Soon-ae had or didn't have feelings for Sun-woo.
IMO, Soon-ae has consistently been shown as a selfish individual who, with the exception of her family, never gave others a second thought – remember, this applies to Sun-woo too, since it's not like she (Bong-sun) ever asked him what he thought about their little deal.
I'm guessing overcoming greed and letting go of life will be her way to the heavens... but this isn't very satisfying, in how she seems to be getting there.
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Jon G.
August 5, 2015 at 5:55 AM
That was my reading of Soon-ae too. I really didn't get any "sisterly" vibe from the pair of them, because Soon-ae was way too obvious with her manipulations of Bong-sun.
Her whole "win-win" speech was deliberately misleading, she knew she was cheating Bong-sun out of her body and life.
In a way, this was kind of a pact with the devil, where the poor soul is convinced by a shrewd devil that she will get all she wants, while the devil knows that she will only get that on paper.
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klmeri
August 5, 2015 at 5:35 PM
Definitely not going to disagree that Soon-Ae is selfish. Just... for a moment there, the show tricked us into thinking the girl and ghost had a common goal - namely Sun-Woo - but not as competitors. Now we have a love triangle!
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Quinze
August 5, 2015 at 7:12 PM
I don't think the pact was truly genuine on SA's part from the get go. Remember she's been a ghost for a while so she's truly forgotten that when possessing a body, what she does and how she acts have consequences attached for ghostess.
I don't necessarily dislike SA because she's acting as expected of a desperate ghost. BUT I do resent BS's relationship being overshadowed by SA in key moments of her own life.
I find BS incredibly naïve for not even thinking through the idea that by giving her body up like this, she's allowing another person to intercede on her behalf without her knowledge. It's not the same when SA is out since she can witness BS and SW together. It's obviously not fair to SW to be deceived either.
I would blame BS more if I thought she was doing it with that explicit intent but I see her following SA's orders without question-which has to do with her near complete isolation. It shows how little interaction she has with people that no one knows who BS is enough to truly question her change outside of SW and he's got love goggles on now so he'll accept her as bipolar and just take it in stride now. Likewise, she can't even hear out someone else's perspective on this since she has no close friends or family.
I still think SW likes BS more than SA but this episode their distinct personalities obviously blurred as SA was quietened down with the burden of her own mixed feelings.
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49 Bex
August 5, 2015 at 3:56 AM
Well this drama has disappointed me tbh, I wanted the ghost to help Bong Sun grow but it's just all Soon Ae. Bong sun is the character I relate to more and it sucks that we don't get any development of her, if they had been a bit more honest and made it clear from the beginning that Soon Ae was the lead and bong sun was just supporting I wouldn't have bothered tbh.
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sooyoung
August 6, 2015 at 2:31 AM
no offense or something but they did make it clear that SA was the main lead.
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50 GirlOnline
August 5, 2015 at 3:57 AM
This is episode disappointed me a lot and am scared now for what I feared might happen ,Sun Woo falling for Soon Ae version of Bong Sun and not the real one.I wonder if he can feel the difference between them. Yeah! Soon Ae is pitiable and that's it I dont want to add anymore to it.
This show is really losing out the real Bong Sun .How I wish Bong Sun can actually experience those moments with Sun Woo and Soon Ae to remain as the character who can never be hated .I wonder if that could happen.
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