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Dramabeans Podcast #39: 2017 Year in Review

Happy Holidays!

Since it’s been a while since we last did a podcast, girlfriday and I thought it would be fun to do one as a year-in-review post, to look back on the year as a whole, and attempted to tackle the ambitious plan to mention every drama that aired this year, even if we didn’t speak at length about all of them. Spoiler alert: We did not succeed in talking about every drama of the year, but a valiant effort was made.

 
Podcast #39

Running time: 1:48:28

Dramas discussed, however briefly:

  • 0:00: Goblin
  • 5:55: Solomon’s Perjury
  • 6:36: Hwarang
  • 7:58: Duel
  • 8:50: Voice, Introverted Boss
  • 9:00: Defendant
  • 10:17: While You Were Sleeping, Falsify, station vs. station performances
  • 12:39: Chief Kim, which is mostly Namgoong Min discussion
  • 14:52: Saimdang, Light’s Diary
  • 15:33: Rebel: Thief Who Stole the People
  • 21:12: Strong Woman Do Bong-soon
  • 24:27: Perfect Wife, Woman of Dignity
  • 24:57: Father Is Strange
  • 27:00: Radiant Office
  • 27:29: Liar and His Lover
  • 31:20: Tunnel
  • 32:41: Whisper, and an explanation of “sweet potato” and “cider” dramas
  • 35:27: Mystery Queen
  • 37:36: Chicago Typewriter
  • 41:42: My Secret Romance (I called him Sung Joon but meant Sung Hoon!)
  • 44:10: Man to Man
  • 45:25: Suspicious Partner (with a side of Nothing to Lose)
  • 47:53: Ruler—Master of the Mask
  • 51:32: Circle
  • 54:00: Fight My Way
  • 56:45: Lookout
  • 1:00:27: My Sassy Girl
  • 1:03:37: Seven Day Queen
  • 1:07:26: The Best Hit
  • 1:09:45: Duel, again, and Temperature of Love
  • 1:11:07: Forest of Secrets, Woman of Dignity
  • 1:13:10: Bride of the Water God
  • 1:16:07: School 2017
  • 1:17:18: The King Loves
  • 1:17:57: Reunited Worlds
  • 1:20:14: Falsify
  • 1:20:35: Criminal Minds
  • 1:22:13: Strongest Deliveryman
  • 1:22:57: Rescue Me, and also Mad Dog
  • 1:27:40: Live Up to Your Name
  • 1:28:48: Age of Youth 2
  • 1:32:13: Hospital Ship
  • 1:33:20: While You Were Sleeping
  • 1:35:11: Because This Life Is Our First and Go Back Spouses
  • 1:40:42: Witch’s Court
  • 1:41:26: 20th Century Boy and Girl
  • 1:43:23 The Package
  • 1:44:12 Revolutionary Love

 
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Names mentioned:
Kim Eun-sook, Park Hyung-shik, Park Seo-joon, Yang Se-jong, Ji Sung, Lee Jong-seok, Namgoong Min, Lee Young-ae, Hong Gil-dong, Yeonsangun, Kang Ji-hwan, Jang Geun-seok, Jungjong, Honey Lee, Jang Nok-soo, Lee Dong-gun, Sohn Eun-seo, Kim Sang-joong, Park Bo-young, Kim Seul-gi, Park Hyung-shik, Ji-soo, Lee Hyun-woo, So-rim, Joy, Han-gyul, Choi Jin-hyuk, Yoon Hyun-min, Lee Bo-young, Lee Sang-yoon, Choi Kang-hee, Kwon Sang-woo, Im Soo-jung, Yoo Ah-in, Sung Hoon, Park Hae-jin, Kim Min-jung, Park Sung-woong, Nam Ji-hyun, Ji Chang-wook, Dongha, Park Eun-bin, Yeon Woo-jin, Yoon So-hee, L, Kim Hyun-joong, Yoo Seung-ho, Kim So-hyun, Park Seo-joon, Kim Ji-won, Kim Young-kwang, Kim Seul-gi, Lee Shi-young, Key, Jeon Ji-hyun, Joo-won, Gyun Woo, Cha Tae-hyun, Oh Yeon-seo, Lee Dong-gun, Park Min-young, Yeon Woo-jin, Yoon Shi-yoon, Yang Se-jong, Yoo Yeon-seok, Kim Hee-sun, Kim Sun-ah, Shin Se-kyung, Nam Joo-hyuk, Krystal, Gong Myung, Im Shi-wan, Yoon-ah, Hong Jong-hyun, Yeo Jin-gu, Lee Yeon-hee, Lee Jun-ki, Moon Chae-won, Go Kyung-pyo, Chae Soo-bin, Sang-mi, Seo Ye-ji, Woo Do-hwan, Taec(yeon), Kim Woo-bin, Yoo Ji-tae, Jung Yong-hwa, Joo-won, Yeo Jin-gu, Kim Nam-gil, Kim Ah-joong, Park Eun-bin, Sung-min, Park Yeon-seon, Noh Hee-kyung, Kim Eun-sook, Ha Ji-won, Kang Min-hyuk, Lee Jong-seok, Jung So-min, Sohn Ho-joon, Jang Nara, Siwon, Kang So-ra, On-dal, Princess Pyeonggang

 
Songs Used in Podcast (In order of use)

“봄이 온다면” (If Spring Comes) from the Rebel: Thief Who Stole the People OST
“Super Power Girl” by Every Single Day from the Strong Woman Do Bong-soon OST
“요즘 너 말야” (These Days) by Joy from the Liar and His Lover OST
“너를 기다리는 법” (How to Wait For You) by Joy from the Liar and His Lover OST
“Satellite” by Saltnpaper from the Chicago Typewriter OST
“눈맞춤” (Meeting Eyes) from the Suspicious Partner OST
“Alive” from the Circle OST
“Dreaming” from the Seven Day Queen OST
“Glass Bridge” from the Bride of the Water God OST
“I Love You Boy” by Suzy from the While You Were Sleeping OST
“사랑하고 싶게 돼” (Makes Me Want to Love) by Melomance from the Because This Life Is Our First OST
“아주 멀지 않은 날에” (A Day Not Far From Now) by Melomance from the 20th Century Boy and Girl OST

 
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YESSS!! A PODCAST!!
I've been waiting for this, I love the vlogs but podcasts are longer and it seems like this one is going to be a lot of fun. Thank you ❤

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Wow, the list is impressive!
Thank you for this lovely Xmas present 😘... and I'm off to listen 😃

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Thank you for this walk down the memory lane... I realised that 2017 was not such a bad year afterall, we still got some great dramas.

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And you are so right about marrying also the family of your partner. I think that's what I minded the most on the last episodes of First Life, that Jihoo was hurting everyone in both families, left right. At least that is how I felt.

And I totally agree with your comparison with Go Back, I am tearing even now when remembering Mom... and how Ban Do missed her as well...

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The real disappointing thing about that bit for me was that the relationship between Ji-ho's mom and Se-hee had so much potential! You can't convince me that they wouldn't end up loving each other. The family stuff at the very end was probably the most unrealistic part of an otherwise very grounded drama.

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I actually thought the way they dealt with the family obligations at the end were realistic. I did the same when I got married and laid out what, where, and when we would be participating in holiday celebrations. I knew my limits, and I knew how I wanted my children to experience the holidays with the least amount of stress. Yes, there were hurt feelings and anger for a few years, but eventually my in-laws actually admitted I was right. Holidays are relaxed, no one feels bitter and overwhelmed by obligations and our relationships are much better for it.

Both Ji-ho and See-hee are introverts, and their respective family dynamics are a bit overpowering, so I think they way they meted out the holidays will in the long wrong preserve and foster better relationships with each other's families, and each other.

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* in the long run

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I think I agree with you in principle, but maybe not in the execution in how they portrayed it in the show. I think what you're talking about is setting healthy boundaries for yourself and for your family and I think that's absolutely essential for any married couple. I think that Jiho and Sehee wanted to do this as well, but unfortunately it came across in the show like they were just being kind of selfish (like they couldn't be bothered to do anything they didn't want to do, instead of, say, protecting each other from being used by each other's parents).

Marriages really do unite families and the degree at which the families are united are different for every family- and that's not intrinsically a bad thing...it was mostly betrayed as being bad. Because of this, I think that ultimately at the end of the show it felt like a rejection of both SH and JH's family which really feels like a shame- and unrealistic.

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I love the podcasts, so this is like a special Christmas present! Looking at the duration of this podcast, I think I better have a glass of wine to the ready. Thanks javabeans and girlfriday!

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Thank you javabeans and girlfriday!

Happy Holidays to both of you also!

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It's feels crazy how I've pretty much watched everything on that except a few shows. Can't wait to hear the podcast 😀

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Yey! A holiday podcast~

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Awww for some reason I can't download it. Instead of a download link I get "upgrade to mediafire pro" when I click on the link. Does anyone know how to fix this please?

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YES. Help! Have the same problem here 🙁
Have been wondering why though because I had no problem watching podcast #38.

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Yey! A PODCAST!
Got me squealing when I saw the post.
Then when I saw the things discussed OMG it's a long podcast. Clap Clap Clap! 👏👏👏👏
Thank you girlfriday and javabeans! Saranghae! 😍🤣😁❤😄

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Woah!! Merry Christmas indeed!! Can’t wait to cosy up and listen! Thanks ladies!!

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Oh wow! What a surprise! This must be our Christmas present from you guys. Thanks so much!

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Bravo, Guys. You are troopers.

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Oh! Thank you for fixing the MF link :) The first one was from the previous podcast. I think I got the right one now *downloading*

I can't wait to hear your thoughts about the dramas this year <3

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*cries/sings along to If Spring Comes*
A correction, the song wasn't actually written for Rebel haha. It was written by Ahn Ye Eun for her audition in Kpop Star way way back in 2016. :)
A link to her audition: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uR2Vg8WHH1k

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Wowwww. I completed 21 of the shows of the list 😭. I think I need to re-evaluate how much time I spend on kdramas

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Don't! Hihi we seem to have same taste in shows so I'm happy when you've found something.

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It's a Festivus Miracle! Something to keep me warm and cozy while I shovel the 3" of snow that fell overnight here in Seattle. Happy Christmas to all the DB Crew and Beanies scattered across the world! 🎄🎄🎄

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<3

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I want to move back to Seattle. I don't care if it rains or snow all year.

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The reason this my 1st life ending badly is because they based it from nigeru haji and they can't end it well,
the ending in nigeru has 1 break up couple for the horang wonseok mold, the elite couple with big age gap and the couple ends in the normal trajectory and understanding why they need a family.

The only way for this my 1st life to be somewhat "different" than nigeru is to butcher the ending, give all the happy ending and bending the reality since they never start with an actual "fresh idea" or even "fresh character" and "fresh story".

This my 1st Life also have trouble to actually show what they want after episode 6 or after marriage and I don't think it understands where the drama going after the premise

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I have to disagree. While I had my issues with the ending, it had nothing to do with NigeHaji. The characters in the show were fundamentally different than the characters in NigeHaji and the story trajectory from the get-go was very different. Also, I do think the writer knew where she was going, I just don’t think she was able to really pull it off in the end. For whatever reason, things got pretty muddled in the last 2 episodes. But I thought episodes 1-14 were very solid in their writing and story and character trajectory.

To say that nothing about it was fresh is a bit ludicrous, considering how many tropes it subverted and how the themes it explored differed from NigeHaji in so many ways. Maybe this writer was influenced by the drama, but overall they are just too different to compare so directly, in my opinion.

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Yikes! This podcast made me realize how little I watched this year, lol

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One good thing about the podcasts is a list of the Korean names that is not done by some computer auto-translate....
.... or is it a bad thing? Nothing to make fun of.

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After hearing the podcast, my list of drama this year:
- Rebel
- Tunnel
- Go Back Spouse
- Seven Day Queen
- Woman of Dignity

The rest I watch a bit or dont leave much impression on me. Overall its a lackluster year.

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Yay, another podcast!!
And whew... what a loo~ng list of dramas. Thank you, ladies. 😀

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@javabeans and @girlfriday, I know FoS seems daunting to start but it really isn't a show that you would traditionally binge. It took me somewhere around 15-20 days to finish. It's not a show where you just watch it all in one setting. Each episode is like a full course meal; you will want it to settle in your stomach before you watch another episode. At least that's how it was for me. So really, you only have to commit to one hour at a time. Give it a try, but like you said about Circle, javabeans, if you hate it don't tell me lol.

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Santa Claus' didn't even stop by for a review this year😨. We must have all been on his naughty list lol.

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OK, so I haven't had a drink in years, but I really want to try peanut butter stout now. That sounds fabulous.

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Please do watch Forest of Secrets. There is no way you two won't like it. I actually signed up for another free trial of Netflix just so that I can rewatch it in peace. 😂 That show by itself made this year amazing.

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Am I the only one who misses the old "Year in Review" format? I don't mind podcasts in general but the end-of-year posts were one of my favorite things here! looked forward to reading each category every year. Call me lazy or old fashioned but I'd rather be reading this kind of review than listening to it.

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I'm actually happy that it's a podcast. And a long one at that. I haven't listened to it yet but will do so tomorrow. My drive to work is about 45 minutes so this podcast will keep me company.

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Trend for this drama year....unfinished shows, you thought are good actors but showed their weaknesses or actors who can't elevate their characters despite the hype on their acting, and okay drama but less emotional investment. Also, overhyped writers.

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screw you for that Chicago Typewriter's OST sneak attack!!! *forever crying*

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My record for the year...
8 shows - unfinished
6 shows - finished
2 shows - just read all the recaps here on dramabeans

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*adds Lookout to to-watch list*

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"Bride of the Water God?"
*sound of beer opening*

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Yaaaiii.. podcast!!

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Thank you so much for this podcast! I've listened to it twice already while staring into nothing, imagining I was also there talking with you amazing ladies about kdramas, although you know, in my head. Hahaha! Also, I need to search for this peanut butter stout you're raving about.

I know a lot of people found 2017 meh in terms of its kdrama offerings but it was the year that I got back to watching kdramas so I'm happy about it. Hopefully 2018 fulfills us more!

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wow! I'm hooked by the mention of all the dramas that has had me visiting dramabeans again and again. Can't wait to finish work and head home to listen to this podcast of my favorite topic.

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Thank you for the podcast! Listening to the both of you while commuting to and from work had me laughing and nodding along like a crazy woman in my car. Now I just need to make a trip to Bevmo to find that peanut butter stout!

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You two are so warm and fuzzy! I was smiling through the whole podcast like a fool 😅 Thank you so much! Happy new year!! 😊❤️

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Hahaha: cider and sweet potato. I actually first heard about it from Buamdong Revenge Club. I had assumed it was teen-only slang since the teen characters were explaining it to the ahjumma characters.

I appreciate all your thoughts on all the dramas that you didn't get to weigh in on too much this year. I think 2017 was a weak year in terms of romance - the mainstay of kdramas. The other genres did pretty well. There weren't many couples that I passionately shipped. Even in the biggest romance of the year - Goblin, I wasn't all that into the Shin + Eun Tak couple, though I was into secondary romance of Reaper and Sunny. In Age of Youth - I shipped Ji Won and Sung Won, but the drama was a coming-of-age type drama that was light on the romance (and it threw cold water into our faces with that ending of the future).

This was the year that it really struck me how much the writing of a character matters in how much an actor is able to demonstrate their skills. There were some great actors who didn't get a chance to shine much through their roles this year, and there were some who were considered the middle or bottom of the pack and were able to shine a lot this year or had enough moments where I can see why they were particularly cast. And it also struck me how casting is a talent - it's not about picking the actor with the best skills, but the right one to match the character.

You comments about Yoon Shi Yoon reminded me of this segment in Happy Together (summary: YSY is a sweet bf, but he's too over-the-top in the amount of effort he makes, which can feel burdensome): https://youtu.be/GxMtfo5y_hc?t=1m20s

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can you switch your podcast player to osmething html5 based? chrome browser doenst like it

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Loved this podcast! Now I would really like to give Mystery Queen, and Lookout a shot. Thank you so much for sharing your opinions, comments, and reviews of this year's dramas!! :)

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Thank-you javabeans and girlfriday for going through all of the dramas for the year. Excellent effort - it was really enjoyable to listen to your thoughts about all of them as an end of year summation.

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