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Red Moon Blue Sun: Episodes 7-8

Getting away with murder seems laughably easy when the only proof a detective has is based on a hunch — or a hallucination. But sometimes hunches and hallucinations are enough reason for someone to continue an investigation, despite all the evidence to the contrary. In order for Woo-kyung to be taken seriously, she must prove that the little girl in the green dress is real.

 
EPISODES 7-8 RECAP

Woo-kyung finds the secret room in the storage closet, and stares in shock at the mummified woman. The police are called in, and Ji-heon and Soo-young arrive as the forensics team are investigating the room. They determine that the woman, whose ID reveals is named Lee Hye-sun, died about a month ago and became mummified due to the cool, dark, dry air in the hidden room.

Downstairs, Woo-kyung stares in mesmerized horror at the now-fixed spot on her ceiling where the leak used to be. Ji-heon startles her, but he’s just curious about how she found the woman’s body. Woo-kyung seems more rattled by the snippet of poetry on the wall:

Life that is rotten and crumbled…
The weight of the crimes

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Life that is rotten and crumbled

 

But Soo-young corrects her — the last line written in the poem by Cheon Sang-byeon is “The weight of the flesh.” The person who spray-painted the poem upstairs simply reworded it for their purposes.

Ji-heon asks why Woo-kyung went upstairs to the storage room in the first place, but Woo-kyung’s distracted by the fact that there’s yet another dead body with poetry next to it.

Handsome Truck Driver Ajusshi arrives at the children’s center, and stands with the crowd of curious onlookers as the now-shrouded body is carried out. When he sees Ji-heon also walk out of the building, Handsome Truck Driver Ajusshi quickly turns around and walks away.

Ji-heon asks if Woo-kyung is okay to drive, and she insists that she is, but Ji-heon grabs her car keys, anyway, deciding that she might still be in shock from the trauma of finding a dead body. It’s also an excuse to tell her that they saw footage of So-ra’s father buying charcoal, which confirms that it was suicide.

He adds that they’ve also long-apprehended the person who killed Ji-hye, and since both cases are closed, that means it’s pointless to focus on the poetry that was left behind. It’s all just a coincidence.

Woo-kyung asks if he really believes that, and Ji-heon simply says that they must trust in the evidence, and the evidence indicates that the deaths aren’t related, despite the poems.

Ji-heon ends up driving her to pick up Eun-seo at Woo-kyung’s mother’s house, and Eun-seo worries that Ji-heon is arresting them since Woo-kyung tells her he’s a police officer. Ji-heon pleasantly says he’s just helping Woo-kyung — he only arrests bad people.

Eun-seo then wonders when her father will come back home — it’s been a few months since he’s been gone. Woo-kyung awkwardly comforts her daughter, telling her that Min-seok will be back soon. Mmm-hmmm. Sure.

When Ji-heon drops them off at home, he wonders who is taking care of her younger child, since he’s still under the impression that Woo-kyung gave birth earlier this year. Woo-kyung doesn’t say anything about her miscarriage, but instead blurts out that she and Min-seok are now divorced — she just hasn’t told Eun-seo about it yet. Then she hands him the keychain she found with the photo of him and Yeon-soo.

Handsome Truck Driver Ajusshi is apparently a jack-of-all-trades, since he’s also the night security guard at the children’s center. He’s allowed to live at the center provided he makes a few rounds each night, since the center can’t afford a dedicated security guard.

He tells Soo-young that he doesn’t remember seeing anyone suspicious recently, but the center is also a pretty busy place during the day. She asks him to download all the footage he has available, and then she explores his living quarters.

It’s a tiny room down the hall from the security office, and Handsome Truck Driver Ajusshi has it decorated with various toys and kids’ drawings. He explains that a lot of the kids from the center like to come there and play, and he’ll fix their toys or make them new ones.

He hands over the CCTV footage, explaining that they only keep it for a month so he’s not sure how helpful it will be. Soo-young is curious about how much he knows regarding the hidden storage room, and he says that it’s so out-of-the-way that not even the staff really know it’s there.

Soo-young muses that if he didn’t even know about the hidden storage room, then it’s odd that the dead woman was able to find it, and that she could have been living there for so long without him knowing. Handsome Truck Driver Ajusshi seems surprised to discover that the dead person is a woman.

Ji-heon and his team look over the evidence they’ve found. The CCTV footage shows Hye-sun going in and out of the center during the day, but because it was a building that often was busy with parents and children coming and going, her presence wouldn’t have particularly been noticed by anyone. When they look into Hye-sun’s records, the only thing they discover is an ex-husband — no other family or history.

Ji-heon and Soo-young go to the address they have for Hye-sun’s husband, which is an isolated property that’s run-down and cluttered with random junk and cages filled with dogs. It feels like it could be abandoned, except Hye-sun’s husband pulls up on his bicycle with a dog crate attached, demanding to know why they’re there.

He seems genuinely surprised to hear that Hye-sun is dead, and he tells the detectives that he hasn’t seen in her over a year.

Min-seok picks up Eun-seo to take her away for the weekend, much to her delight since it’s been so long since she’s seen her father. They’re going to his family for their ancestral rites, and since Woo-kyung is technically no longer a part of his family, she doesn’t need to attend.

This does mean that Min-seok will have to explain why she’s not there, and Woo-kyung says that he might as well tell Eun-seo the truth about their divorce, too, since she hasn’t had the courage to explain it to their daughter.

Concerned, Min-seok asks if Woo-kyung doing okay, and she reassures him that she’s fine — she’s seeing her doctor, taking medication, and hasn’t seen the little girl in the green dress. Lies!! But it at least makes him feel better as he and Eun-seo drive away.

Woo-kyung heads to the care facility, where her mother is already attending to Se-kyung. Mom invites her and Min-seok over to dinner, and Woo-kyung awkwardly explains that Min-seok and Eun-seo are with Min-seok’s family. Mom is surprised that Woo-kyung didn’t go with them, and Woo-kyung nonchalantly confesses that they’re now divorced.

Mom sighs in annoyance, assuming that it’s all Woo-kyung’s fault because she undoubtedly made Min-seok’s life difficult with all her mental troubles. Mom can’t blame Min-seok for cheating on Woo-kyung, and says it wouldn’t have happened if Woo-kyung had treated him better.

Furious, Woo-kyung demands to know why Mom always blames her for everything — not just for Min-seok leaving her, but for Se-kyung’s accident and her father’s death. Mom slaps Woo-kyung, telling her not to scream around her sister.

Woo-kyung quickly becomes contrite, pleading with her mother to forgive her, but Mom just glares at Woo-kyung. She refuses to accept Woo-kyung’s apology and instead orders her to focus on caring for Se-kyung. After Mom leaves, Woo-kyung is shaken and rattled, but Se-kyung continues to be wide-eyed and comatose.

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I’m obsessively sorry, Mom!

 

At the police station, Hye-sun’s ex-husband gives his statement, not that he’s much help to the detectives since he says his wife was an orphan and didn’t have any friends. They never talked after they got divorced and she left. Ji-heon asks if she had any sicknesses, and the husband remembers she had a cough that was due to some kind of asthma.

Ji-heon wonders why they divorced, and the man says that he just got tired of her and that she was no longer any fun. It’s not his fault that they fell out of love.

Woo-kyung returns to the children’s center, where she sees Shi-wan sitting on a bench, watching the other kids play. She thanks him for the dollhouse he made, and asks him how he likes his new counselor.

Shi-wan’s more curious about the body that was found, and then asks if it was the little girl who lived nearby and who used to draw pictures in the park. He describes her and it matches the little girl in the green dress. Woo-kyung is shocked, but Shi-wan is dragged away by his mother before Woo-kyung can ask him any more questions.

So-ra’s mother is brought back in to the police station to confirm that it was indeed her husband in the CCTV footage buying charcoal. All the evidence officially points to suicide, and the woman nervously repeats that he always talked about wanting to die.

Then she hesitantly asks if she’ll still get the money that was left in the car, and smiles in relief when Soo-young confirms that they’ll release the money once the case is closed. Ji-heon hands her a form to claim her husband’s body, and the woman asks if she has to — if she officially claims her husband’s body, then she’ll have to pay for the burial, which is an expense she can’t afford.

Since she refuses to claim his body, that means he’ll be treated like an unknown person without family. Soo-young is furious about this, but Ji-heon just sighs and says that they should take this as a life lesson: don’t become someone who isn’t worth the cost of a funeral.

Woo-kyung calls the detectives, wanting to know if the mummified woman’s body has been identified. Ji-heon tells her that he can’t release information in an on-going case, but Woo-kyung desperately asks if the woman had a daughter. Ji-heon at least tells her that the mummified woman was childless.

That’s not the answer Woo-kyung was expecting, and she hurries upstairs to investigate the storage room herself. She studies the poem on the wall.

Meanwhile, So-ra’s mother delights over the evidence from her husband’s car that has now been released to her. She grins as she counts the money, but her smile fades when she sees the note that says, “It’s all my fault.”

So-ra’s mother calls Woo-kyung, happily telling her that her husband committed suicide and that life is so much better now that he’s dead — which is something Woo-kyung had told her before. So-ra’s mother cheerfully thanks Woo-kyung, since this all happened because of her.

Bewildered, Woo-kyung stares at her phone after the So-ra’s mother hangs up. But Woo-kyung’s attention is soon distracted when she spots a child’s bracelet in the storage room.

She takes the bracelet to Ji-heon, insisting it’s evidence that a child was living there. It’s a trendy bracelet that only became popular with kids in the past couple of months, so there’s no way it could have been in the storage room for long. Woo-kyung says that they need to look for the missing child.

Ji-heon points out that the police didn’t find any evidence of a child living in the storage room, and even hauls out Hye-sun’s official case file, attempting to prove to Woo-kyung that it’s impossible that the woman had a child or that there was any child associated with the woman.

But Woo-kyung is convinced the person who killed Hye-sun kidnapped the unknown child, and desperately pleads with Ji-heon to find the child. Irritated, Ji-heon tries to brush her off, but Woo-kyung stops him in his tracks when she points out all the cases so far that dealt with death and poetry also involved children.

Ji-heon’s medical examiner buddy reveals that Hye-sun didn’t have any injuries, and the time of death would be difficult to ascertain due the state of her body — she could have died a few weeks ago or a few months ago. Ji-heon asks if Hye-sun ever gave birth, and is surprised when the medical examiner says that, based on the shape of her pelvis, she did indeed give birth some years ago.

Soo-young looks into Woo-kyung’s records. She reveals to Ji-heon that the shock of hitting a kid with her car led to Woo-kyung miscarry her child, and that Woo-kyung only recently returned to work despite her boss being worried about her mentally unstable state.

Having stolen Hye-sun’s information from Ji-heon’s desk, Woo-kyung goes to the ex-husband’s property. No one is home, so she pokes around the various run-down buildings, startled when she sees a pile of fur and bones between all the dog cages. She spots a building that has empty cages and butcher’s equipment, then notices that the cloth plugging a broken window is actually a child’s shirt.

The ex-husband finds her on his property, and Woo-kyung lies that she’s there to get more information about Hye-sun since she’s working on a research project about homeless women. The ex-husband doesn’t seem to mind since he’s talking to such a “pretty lady,” and Woo-kyung does her best not to recoil in disgust due to his creepy advances.

The ex-husband says that he first met Hye-sun when she was homeless and sleeping on his property. He felt sorry for her, so he gave her some work, and they eventually ended up living together. Woo-kyung tries to ignore the man’s leering behavior as she asks why they got divorced, and he says that Hye-sun just wanted to leave after living with him for seven years.

But he stops short when Woo-kyung asks about their child. He insists that there wasn’t a child, and Woo-kyung points out the crayon marks on his coffee table. He blusters that it’s second-hand and those marks were already there, insisting that he and Hye-sun never had a child together because he hates kids.

A customer distracts him, and while he goes out to attend to his livelihood as a dog butcher, Woo-kyung slips out to investigate the building where she saw the little girl’s shirt. Behind the butchering room is a secret, locked room that looks like someone used to live there, based on the empty cot in the middle of the room.

Woo-kyung finds broken crayons on the floor and some drawings on the wall that are at a child’s height, and in the closet are women’s clothes and a book on pregnancy.

The ex-husband discovers Woo-kyung in the secret room and demands to know why she’s there. She tries to run away, but he grabs her and throws her to the ground. Woo-kyung manages to escape by hitting him in the head with a brick, but it only makes him angrier when he catches up to her and pins her to the ground.

Ji-heon arrives at the man’s home in time to see Woo-kyung being escorted away by the police. The man is furious, and tells Ji-heon that some thief tried to snoop on his property, so he had her arrested.

Ji-heon doesn’t seem to fully buy that explanation, but he doesn’t press the issue, and instead tells the man that Hye-sun’s autopsy revealed she had had a child. The man says he doesn’t know anything about it, and scoffs that Hye-sun must have had a kid with someone before he met her.

He finds it suspicious that the snooping thief and Ji-heon both asked about Hye-sun having a child, and assumes that Ji-heon must have leaked information. But Ji-heon just wants information about Hye-sun’s child, which the man insists he knows nothing about.

Later that night, Ji-heon waits outside the police station for Woo-kyung to be released. She tries to ignore him, but Ji-heon stops her by telling her that Hye-sun’s ex-husband is suing him for leaking information. So they’re both in trouble. Then he offers to buy Woo-kyung dinner.

As Woo-kyung slurps down her noodles, Ji-heon watches in amazement, asking how long it’s been since she’s had a meal. She begins to cry, and Ji-heon, flustered, asks if he said something wrong, and Woo-kyung simply says she feels like she’s really turning into an animal.

Ji-heon hands over some tissues, saying that sometimes being an animal isn’t too bad. After all, that’s healthy and straightforward, without any backstabbing. Woo-kyung tells him about what she found on the man’s property.

Curious, Ji-heon asks what led her to go upstairs to find Hye-sun’s body in the first place, and what is now causing Woo-kyung to go to these extremes to find Hye-sun’s supposed missing child. Woo-kyung hesitatingly tells him that she went to the storage room because the little girl told her a body was there. That doesn’t seem to be the answer Ji-heon was expecting.

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At the police station, Captain Hong goes line-by-line through Hye-sun’s autopsy, pointing out to Ji-heon that there was no foul play with her death. Hye-sun died of natural causes — case closed. But Ji-heon pleads with with Captain Hong that the existence of a child potentially means foul play.

Captain Hong isn’t having it, though, and yells at Ji-heon for continuing to get the department in trouble — not just because Ji-heon leaked information about Hye-sun, but also that he’s bothering all the other departments by insisting So-ra’s father’s death wasn’t suicide.

Disgruntled and dejected, Ji-heon returns to his desk. Soo-young starts to show him what she’s found so far in the missing children’s database, but Ji-heon grumps that the case is closed so she can just forget about it, and sends her home for the night.

As she leaves, Soo-young warns Ji-heon that she thinks Woo-kyung is too emotionally unstable to be a reliable source, but Soo-young can’t stop thinking about Woo-kyung’s point that all these deaths where there was poetry somehow also involved children. Soo-young’s not convinced these closed cases are truly closed.

So-ra’s mother dumps all of her husbands belongings from the police station into a bin and lights it on fire (except for the money, of course). After erasing all the evidence, she heads to the insurance company to get her husband’s payout.

Ji-heon calls, letting Woo-kyung know that he found Hye-sun’s daughter. He’s stunned that the child actually exists, and tells Woo-kyung that if this girl is the same one Woo-kyung saw in her hallucination, then Woo-kyung should give up her day job and become a fortune teller.

At the children’s center, Handsome Truck Driver Ajusshi sits with Shi-wan in the park. Shi-wan asks him where the girl that the ajusshi used to draw with has gone, but Handsome Truck Driver Ajusshi pointedly doesn’t answer.

Ji-heon and Woo-kyung nervously wait at an orphanage to see Hye-sun’s daughter. Woo-kyung explores the office, and spots a framed poster hidden in the corner. She pulls it out to reveal a poem — Seo Jeong-ju’s “The Leper.” Both she and Ji-heon are shocked to see it there, but a knock at the door gets their attention.

A woman stands in the doorway, and a little girl shyly peeks out from behind her.

 
COMMENTS

Is Hye-sun’s little girl really the the little girl in the green dress? I feel like we’re expected to believe that it’s so, but we haven’t gotten a full look at her to confirm it yet, so part of me is convinced it’s just a red herring. I can’t imagine the little girl in the green dress, which has been such a powerful image for Woo-kyung, being figured out so easily, so soon. Then again, I’m not sure what to expect with this show just in general, so perhaps Hye-sun’s daughter really is the same little girl, and the red herring is actually a red herring of a red herring. Er, or something like that.

I still believe that the little girl in the green dress is somehow related to the unknown boy that Woo-kyung accidentally killed. While I previously thought that the little girl in the green dress was just a manifestation of Woo-kyung’s inner psychological issues (and based on that heated moment with her mother in Se-kyung’s room, there’s definitely some dramatic history that we don’t know about yet), I’m now swinging back to the other side and am currently convinced the little girl in the green dress could actually be the dead unknown boy’s little sister. If she’s really the girl that Shi-wan saw in the park, when she was drawing pictures with Handsome Truck Driver Ajusshi (who continues to set off all sorts of red flags despite how helpful and pleasant he appears to be), then she might be the one who drew the picture that was found in the boy’s shoe. Maybe he kept it not because it was his drawing, but because it came from his sister.

Then again, the little girl in the green dress could be connected to Hye-sun, since the little girl told Shi-wan that she lived nearby — “nearby” could also mean “squatting in an unused room in the center.” But it is odd, then, that there would be such little evidence of a child living there (except for the bracelet). Or maybe Hye-sun was living in the center because she knew her daughter was nearby. Maybe she gave her daughter up for adoption and she wanted to know if her daughter was doing well. Except that would mean the unknown boy would also be her son, if I follow my previous logic that the little girl in the green dress was the boy’s younger sister. So obviously that can’t work. Yet somehow both theories make sense to me. As does the theory that the little girl might not really exist at all except in Woo-kyung’s psyche.

Oh, little girl in the green dress, you are driving me almost as crazy as you are Woo-kyung. Are you real? Will we find out your true identity soon? Or are you just a mysterious manifestation that only appears to reveal all the horrible parents out there that leave abused and neglected children in their wake? Whoever you are, you have me hooked on this grim show, and more determined than ever to solve the mystery as I follow the little girl down the rabbit hole into a terrifying and unknown wonderland.

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What if Woo Kyung has split personality disorder and she's the one committing the murders, but she has no idea and the little girl in the green dress is her subconscious waking her up to the fact?
That would explain why So Ra's mom thinks Woo Kyung told her that murder would get her her husband's insurance payout and also why all the kids involved were Woo Kyung's patients.

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This is a possibility. She was part of that organization against Park Ji-Hye and she is shown to be around her home after PJH being released. Sora's mom for some reason thinks that CWk is the one behind this. If there is nothing supernatural in this show then, her reason for going upstairs just because water was dripping from the ceilings is also suspicious. But wasn't she at leave when lee hye sun's incident happened?

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Ooooh! That is an interesting theory! I'm hoping that she's not the murderer because I loved the companionship that she and Ji-heon shares. I'm happy that Ji-heon somehow tries to understand her instead of judge her like everyone else

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However, if she turns out to be the murderer in the end, that would be so interesting!

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I had a crazy theory that Green Dress Girl is in fact a supernatural entity. But I can't see that happening with this series lol

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I'm still kind of hoping for this, but I think it'll just be a psychological manifestation of Woo-kyung's. Even so, I'm super excited to see how everything ties together.

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Wow, what an interesting twist to the story that would be. It would make so much sense too.

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This makes a lot of sense, and it's my new favourite theory. If true, it'll put my Ji-Heon and Woo-Kyung bromance cheerleading routine on hold.

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I had the same thought after this episode.

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(1/2) I think the writer definitely wants us to be worried about the possibility. I think it could be developed further as a plot-line, maybe even leading up to WK being arrested at one point. I could even see WK turning herself in after doubting her own innocence and sanity, with JH trying to convince her it's all in her head/find evidence in her favour.

But, I don't think WK's actually guilty.

Things are certainly set up to make her look that way, like her links with the murders and the mummy room. But if WK were really the culprit, it'd be far too early in the story to drop such incriminating connections. With so many links to so many incidences, WK's guilt would be discovered too soon, be it by herself or someone else. And then, with the most pressing question of whodunnit being answered, the story would have nowhere to go.

I mean, the writer doesn't glorify the abusive-adult-murders, so it's not like we'd see WK turn into a full-on blood knight vigilante on the run. And you can't drag out WK realising what she's done and turning herself in for 28 more episodes. Even if you could, knowing RC's identity would ruin all the tension for the viewers, which is the complete opposite of what this writer does so well.

Then, more importantly, there's the death of the little boy at the beginning of the series. That death feels like it was deliberately planned to me. Why would a kid be walking by themselves in the middle of a highway with a drawing linked to a vigilante murder-cult in their shoe? Maybe because someone told them to. Maybe because someone wanted WK to be the one to run that kid over, and to get her deeply invested and involved in all these sinister events.

Now, WK having an abusive-adult-murdering alter ego... that, I could maybe see. But an alter ego that deliberately creates a child's murder to 'awaken' her other half? No. WK seems like she herself was an abused child, and murdering a kindred spirit seems like the last thing she'd ever do, no matter how far over the edge she's gone. But the death of the little boy does seem like it was Red Cry's doing. Ergo WK =/= RC.

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Those are my two biggest reasons for believing in her innocence, but there are other things too.

First off, if SR's mum really thought WK was 'in on it', there'd be no need for her to call and ask her so anxiously what she and her husband were talking about the night of (as if worried her husband said something to WK that made its way to the police's ears). It also wouldn't make sense for her to call WK literally 5 seconds after the RedCry!WK just told her to shut up. SR's mom was just looking for reassurance wherever she could find it, and she clearly trusts WK. A more likely explanation for her line is that WK said something in a moment of exasperation to SR's mum during/after one of her sessions with SR like 'if you don't divorce him you won't have peace till he's dead', and that was the trigger for SR's mum to start thinking what if.

As for the mummy room, we can't really say WK 'knew' about the body. It seemed more like her dream was just a reflection of her anxious mind (and water building up until it bursts is far from a subconscious representation of a dead body). The fact that there really was something there isn't a one-in-a-million chance proving prior knowledge, but a likely probability, because whoever's behind these murders seems to be intimately linked to WK/her workplace anyway, and left the body in that room so that it would be found by someone. In conclusion, it wasn't really the little girl/prior knowledge that led WK to the body, but close proximity to the eye of the hurricane (and a leaky ceiling).

So yeah, I'm personally leaning towards the theory that whoever's behind this is linked to WK, and is deliberately going out of their way to draw her attention with the mummy at the very least. If Red Cry is also involved with the little boy's death, as I suspect them to be, then I don't think they're even in the vigilante killings for "justice". You wouldn't get a child killed if you hated child-killers. So the RC killings are likely just a side-quest, with the real goal being to make WK pay for something real or imagined by framing her for all this.

(I'm thinking they might be the parent of a former patient, but I'm leaning more towards her sister not really being as comatose as she seems. Or her mother, I wouldn't be surprised. After all, going by the first poem, the 'Red Cry' would be given by the bitter leper who'd eaten a child only to remain uncured, wouldn't it?)

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Yeah, while I don't completely rule out Wk being involved in this. I agree with your points. The thing for me with this drama is that a lot of people are suspicious in this. I can find points to connect almost everyone to the murders. But also that much to rule out that possibilities. I have only ruled out JI heon from being linked to the Red cry and I don't trust anybody else.
Sometimes, I think the way he behaves with Sooyoung is a little rude and I want them to get close but I am also vary of her and want Ji-heon to be alert.

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Okay, what's actually happened between Woo-kyung and her mom? Woo-kyung's reaction after her outburst alarmed me. She is a grown woman and yet, the way she apologized to her mom reminded me of a guilty child who knows exactly what kind of terrible punishment she'll get for misbehaving. And the way Mom reacted to that is quite peculiar too.

I'm really liking the unexplainable tension between Ji-heon and Woo-kyung. He seems to be mightily uncomfortable by the fact that they knew each other's shameful stories too well. But he also couldn't help being intrigued by this odd woman. As for Woo-kyung, she always has this genuinely surprised expression whenever Ji-heon is being courteous to her instead of getting angry or frustrated for whatever flustering occurences happening around her. I think it's no wonder she felt the pull to share her bewildering stories to him despite him being a total stranger. From what we've seen so far, Ji-heon seems to be one of the very few person who is willing to listen to her (though after several tenacious attempts from her) without being too quick to judge or blame her for whatever happened.

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How can Woo kyung's green dressed girl be real, logically? I think this is a clever show and they don't seem to be the type of making things out of thin air. The CCTV clearly showed that the child she hit was a boy and the boy was alone at that road and WK have never met the boy before. That means what she had was a hallucination and I don't understand the reason for her or us to consider the girl as the dead boy's sister. Siwan only told that he saw a little girl with bobbed hair always drawing with crayons. That is such a generic description and it could be any other girl. Only from WK's perspective have we seen the green dressed girl's face. It can be assumed that the girl siwan was talking about and the one Eun ho seems to be involved with is the same child (lee hye sun's daughter) but not the one in CWK's hallucinations. And from what we are shown in this ep also this is another girl. The eyes seem different and the height is also different.

There are things one cannot completely explain if the green dressed girl is part of her hallucination like how she knew about the dead body above. Though we are seeing things from Cwk's perspective, she is not a reliable narrator for me. I got goosebumps from her change in behaviour when mom slapped her. It seems like she was abused.

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I agree, that the girl in green dress is part of WK subconscious, but she don't want to admit to it and try to fit her like a puzzle in what is happening right now. So she maybe heard something moving in the attic or maybe saw something that she doesn't conciously registered at time, and now something pushed it to front of her mind in form of this hallucination?

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The moment with her mom was so bizarre I can’t wrap my head around it, my mom has slapped me once in my adulthood and she was the one to apologize not me. Woo Kyung became almost childlike in that moment and it makes me wonder if maybe she was abused as a child? It wouldn’t shock me her mom seems super gross.

I don’t know what the show is going for with Woo Kyung and Ji-Heon but I’m so happy she has someone around her that doesn’t belittle her or make her feel crazy. She needs a friend, she seems so lonely.

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I do love how willingly Ji Heon is to listen to her and help her. In the next episodes, they have a lot more scenes together and seem to warm up to each other more. Well, a tiny bit but yeah.

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I agree with your statement about Woo-kyung having been abused as a child. I wonder if it's something she repressed or if she remembers (which could also be the reason why she works with kids). Perhaps her sister tried to protect her from their father when they were young and ended up in the coma as a result. That could be why the mom blames Woo-kyung for his death.

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I am with you on Woo Kyung being abused as a child. I remember when in Ep 1, the mom made excuses for the child-killer mom saying that she needed to protect her husband and therefore had to hide her child's body.

It stricked me as something someone would say when they don't really care about the child, but are a bit submissive to the husband.

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Man... was Woo Kyung abused as a child? Cuz that tense moment with her mom was just...

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Thanks @odilettante. This is by far the most compelling of all the shows currently airing, that' I'm watching. It must be the pull of wanting just as desperately as Woo Kyung to save more endangered children. I want so much for her to be right that the phantom child is pointing her towards saving another young life, and ultimately for WK herself to be at peace and not so guilt-ridden anymore.

Seeing her 'take her punishment' is sad, even painful. She passively accepts what's meted out to her in terms of blame, the divorce, the loss of the child. Somewhat like the way she gives up her power as an adult and submits to her mum like a traumatised child when scolded. That was a disturbing scene. She became fearful and almost robotic in her obedience.

The main times that she takes action or asserts herself is over a child. Apart from this, she slips into a depressed passivity that's sad to see. Kim Sun Ah is of course amazing in this role.

I noted (with a smile) that the light in the store room seen through the clothes looked like a red moon. It was probably just a coincidence but it tied up nicely with the first poem.

I really like the fact that the police and WK are so smart, and that they are not mean. Soo Young produced an excuse for Ji Hyeon to end the conversation with WK without telling her rudely to leave. And Ji Hyeon asks about a child because WK mentioned this. He did not disregard her just because she was caught breaking and entering, or had no proof, but went on to find the child despite this.

This is one partnership I can really get behind. I do wish though that this episode had given Soo Young more to do. I hope we get her working more closely with WK in the future, because she's already thinking WK is flakey.

The next episodes are fantastic too!!! 😃

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I love that policemen in this show are passionate but not in hammerhead fashion but by following clues and instincts. And how kind Ji Hyeon is toward WK and not treat her like some crazy lady.

The scene with WK mother was more disturbing one so far, what kind of harm WK had suffered to react like that, chilling.

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I'm still not pleased about the way Soo-Young gave that guy a beat down in the alley, behaviour like that from cops for any reason makes me uneasy. But aside from that, I like the way police are presented in this show. They're competent, not trying to cover up secrets (as far as I know so far), not being bribed or being belligerent. They're smart and sensitive in turn, as well. It's refreshing.

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@alex8825 Yup, I like the good guys being so capable and hard working, but am a bit ambivalent about their choices. Still they are very 'human' and imperfect. It's good that JH gave SY a rebuke for her violent behaviour. We're waiting to know why she reacted that way.

I've still put everyone on the suspects' list, both good and not so good guys/girls, because I'm expecting more curve balls to come along with this show.

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I don't think we are supposed to be okay with Soo young's violent behaviour. I mean it is not that normalized violence by police towards culprits that we usually see in such dramas. I am taking this as a hint that there is something strange or suspicious about her.

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This is such a gripping show. I wasn't even going to check it out, but I'm glad I did, because the episodes always keep my attention from start to finish. Glad that it is being recapped.

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I feel really sorry for the mummy lady, when they started uncovering her story, she seems never to have a chance in life, and her husband was truly despicable, why he is still alive?

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I don't think the girl in the green dress is the one they're looking for, but it could be that the girl in the green dress is wearing the green dress as a sign pointing in the daughter's direction. I mean, so far the little girl is giving Woo-Kyung all kinds of signs that really, if this isn't a ghost story, shouldn't be possible. If she's a figment of Woo-Kyung's imagination, how would she know about the body and point at the ceiling to mark it out? It makes the theory from @shinayame in Comment #1 start to seem really plausible to me.

That reaction to her mother though. I suspected abuse in her past, and that extreme reaction makes me feel even more convinced that there was some kind of abuse in her past. A grown woman reacting like that was so unsettling to see. My mum lost her temper with me once (I was being a jerk) and threw a coffee mug at my head. It missed me, and tbh I was so amazed that the tiny woman had even tried it that I wasn't even bothered, and I just laughed it off later when she said sorry. Woo-Kyung's reaction was extremely childlike and came from a place of fear. What happened to her?

I'm feeling kind of strange about the Truck Driver guy. He's acting creepy and suspicious, but I can't help but question myself. In modern times there's so much suspicion and paranoia, not all of it undeserved of course, that anything can look bad even if you genuinely have good intentions. At the school where I worked we were advised to never hug children even if they were crying and needed comfort, because it could look bad or sound wrong on paper. People are extremely sensitive now where kids are concerned.

I'm worried that I'm suspecting Truck Driver guy undeservedly, when in reality he's a guy who genuinely cares about kids and is only twitchy because he knows other people will look at him with suspicion no matter what. He's still throwing up flags for me, but I keep wondering if I'm falling into that trap of extreme suspicion and paranoia for children's safety.

I like Ji-Heon more and more. I'm not sure what it is about him, maybe his determination and his adaptability? There are times he's obstructive and then there's times he realises he was being obstructive and he adapts. He's also very open-minded, he listens and isn't overly judgemental. I feel like he's grounding Woo-Kyung by actually hearing her. I like all of this about him a lot, he seems very mature and only slightly jaded. I wonder more and more about his back story, and what happened with his ex and the baby.

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There's more about Woo Kyung and her mother in the next couple of episodes and some stuff that makes me feel like my theory could definitely be plausible.
I wish it wouldn't be spoiling to say it!!! I can't wait till the next couple of recaps, things are getting good.

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I've almost caught up to the most recent episodes, I saw something in 9-10 that definitely caught my attention. Watching 11-12 today and hopefully there will be more.

Your theory completely makes sense because if there's no psychic ability or supernatural element, that little figment of Woo-Kyung's imagination/subconscious must know about this stuff somehow. She looks like she might have a history of abuse, and her choice in job is interesting - trying to help/save abused and/or neglected children. It would all fit.

I'm loving this show so much. It's probably my favourite drama that I'm currently watching.

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Aargh, since the only way I can reply to you is currently not allowed, I will get back to you in the Ep. 11-12 recap!

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@shinayame It was a theory that did pass through my mind. I'm so intrigued. The one person through whose eyes we watch the unraveling of the crimes, could be the perpetrator and not know it herself!! I was so glad from the beginning that we got a detective as meticulous and competent as Ji Hyeon, to counter balance the uncertainty and unreliability of WK.

I really liked the next 2 episodes too!

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It is quite a fascinating thought and if it is actually true, I trust this team to handle it well. I don't think I've ever seen this possibility in another drama before.
I LOVE Ji Hyeon. He's always so grumpy, but he's a fantastic detective, and sensitive, and I feel like - again, if my theory's true - he will be able to pull Woo Kyung safely to the other side.

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I think the girl (lee hye sun's daughter) is wearing the green just for dramatic effect. It is a cliffhanger and they want us to think that this girl is that girl. But from what is shown of her (eyes, height) she is not really the girl. At the end of this ep, I was like I will throw something (just saying!) if this turn out to be some another girl but 'wearing the exact same dress of WK's hallucination girl.
One thing I noticed is that the dress our green dressed girl is wearing is a little old-fashioned and that is one of the reasons for me to think that she is a fragment from somebody's past.

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I thought the dress looked old fashioned too! And the shoes and socks, the whole style seemed out of date. I really think the little girl is from the past in some way.

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What if the girl in the green dress is a manifestation of her sister that's in a coma?

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That's what I think, too. There's a reason she's in a coma after all, and Woo-kyung's mother seems to blame her for it.

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Yes! That is a strong possibility. I've been thinking that she could be the main character herself or the main character's comatose sister.

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@lynzgd @nightmoon @peridot
That's what I love about this show and our discussions ... everything or anything is possible at this stage!!!! Boggles the mind, tickles the logic centres and chases away the boredom!!!

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I can't make up my mind if I want the little girl to be real or not. Her character adds so much mystery (and a touch of creepiness) to the drama.

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I recall in The Village: Secret of Achiara by the same writer, there was a 'ghost' repeatedly walking around or appearing and leading characters to make discoveries. That was a real ghost. So originally I felt that in this show, she'd be a real ghost too. We just have to locate the poor child's corpse. I've since gone to sit on the fence over this, but I think I want her to be not real except in WK's mind. It makes WK's back story so much more intriguing!

Anyway, although we don't know if phantom girl is a ghost, a spirit of a comatose person or figment of the traumatised mind, she's a necessary 'character' in this tale. 😃

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Oh, was that a real ghost? I was thinking whether to rewatch the drama to confirm this.

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It was the dead sister's ghost. I can't remember clearly, but she may have been appearing in dreams as well as to a child I think.

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Well if that was the case in the writer's other drama, then chances are she wouldn't do the same thing in this one. Right? Either way, I'm glad they're still keeping her identity a mystery.

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@nightmoon I wouldn't be too sure about that. Writers, musicians, artists .... tend to repeat a theme, a thought etc teasing it out over and over to get the right feel. I hear many similar sequences in music by the same composer for eg. The theme of searching for a possible missing person is again a repeated theme for this writer. So we really can't tell the chances of the girl being a ghost or not.

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I really like Ji-heon as a cop. He has a good balance between believing the facts and believing his intuition.

Handsome Truck Driver Ajusshi for me he's more a Cute Truck Drive Hyung/Oppa for the kids. But he's kind of creepy.

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A little young to be an ajusshi? ^^ but to be fair he's almost 30
He seriously only appears in the most suspicious circumstances though omg -- I can't decide if the writers are just baiting us or if he's the real deal

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Fascinating. I definitely belive the WK was abused as a child. Who abused her is another story, it was probably her mother. As for the little girl, based on being up to date with the episodes I believe she is a repressed memory of a child very close to her. Someone her mother knows, but isn't saying, hmmm. I wonder if it is another sibling, perhaps her mother's child because someone mentioned above that in the first episode the mother rationalized Ji-Hye hiding her child to protect her husband. Hmmmm

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Good point @kafiyah-bello. Gosh, I feel I have to re-watch every episode and catch all possible clues and red herrings. Maybe I'll be able to manage that on the cold, quiet nights on vacation?!?! 😆

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This is just a shoutout to Lee Yi-kyung! Who ever thought that your usual funny guy could slay a more complex, serious role? I'm glad he agreed to this project and I hope that this gives him more opportunities as lead in the future!

What can I say more about Kim Sun-a? This lady is amazing whichever role she takes on. And I have to say that this drama is turning out to be a good choice for Nam Gyu-ri, too!

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@teachermok18 I was thinking very positively about Nam Gyu Ri and Lee Yi Kyung as well. I've never seen NGR in any badass role before. Usually she would look frail and feminine. I liked how she could stand and fight and take down guys bigger than herself.

It's also a relief to have LYK in a non-comedic role. I had a time trying to place him because he is so serious and macho here. LOL.

No need to say what we know about Kim Sun Ah. She's a veteran and deserves the accolades.

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I’ve been reading the recaps here since the first episode and now I’m soooo hooked. I’m trying to resist reading the next recap until I’ve watched the episodes first! Hoping it’s not too scary. The screenshot of the mummified woman spooked me a little.

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