The leads conversation and rapport is really wonderful post their bickering. But, the core of the problem remains. She left the orange peels in the office break room and he had to clean up after her. She flicked his forehead (totally uncalled for.. you don't do that to your ex).
So even if they get back together I doubt the dynamic will change.

On contrary, we see Ha ra being the passive one in the relationship with Jae-gyeom. He is pushing her beyond her comfort zone and making calls about how their relationship should progress, while she just accepts it even though she doesn't agree. She is not voicing her opinions for fear of conflict. Exactly what her ex husband did with her.
He is def not the end game and gets a tad too upset when things don't go his way. I don't see them last.

May be dedicated partners with benefits might be the best for the leads. They do care for each other, and will stay loyal to the end. They are comfortable talking/chatting and working together. Most problems seems to arise from living together under one roof. I have heard of couples living in separate apartments.. May be that's the way to go ; )

I hate that I love our two leading characters lol I know they're probably better moving on and by themselves, but kang sora and jang seungjo have too much chemistry to me

CEO Hong's closing on her daughters case just told me one basic thing - she is a very great lawyer, and a great great mom. Listening to her thoughts on the matter brought emotions to bank at bay. The admiration, the truth, and mama protective love all in one.
I'm glad she was able to move the judge to separate one from the other, something she wasn't able to get in her own case.

The stealing conniving ploy of the husband in ep 6 aside, a divorce is what should have happened.

Ep 6 also brings up one my cause for concern in a marriage - financial independence. I get that children can be used a weapon or leverage in a marriage to either to a disadvantage, but financial independence is the one that brings me more concern. Just as is the impending case of Ha-ra's parents, I am of the opinion that wives will be able to move forward with divorce or separation of they had some sort of financial independence. How will I cope if I leave? Will I survive? I'll likely fare badly materially. Won't I be mocked for it? Questions of this nature will not be the first point of reasoning if she had some form of financial standing. It doesn't have to measure up to the husband's, just enough to live by on her own.

Well, bailey’s comment has aged well! It’s clear that Ha-ra is going to find out about her dad; I honestly find it unfair of her family to keep it from her. Understandable, but unfair. And unfair to Eun-beom too, to ask him to lie by omission to someone who he’s just now on okay terms with and who he obviously still cares about. Not to mention he was upfront about the fact that he’s bad at it (which, wow, he was not kidding haha). It’s never a question of if someone will find out, it’s always when.

Did anyone else feel like the show was being quite cagey about who the man was at the end who assaulted Ha-ra’s client? I watched it again to try to see if the clothing matched up, but wasn’t able to discover anything definitive. The legs of the assailant seemed more strongly built than the legs of Ha-ra’s dad, but that could have been an illusion because of the quick movements. It seemed like they went out of their way to leave that an open question, and even the phone conversations could have been a well timed fake-out. I don’t really feel sure one way or the other. I hope Ha-ra’s dad didn’t stoop to that level, but maybe if he’s desperate enough. Does anyone else know more than I do about the laws around acknowledging a child in Korea? I feel like in the US everyone would just have their mouth swabbed and if the DNA matches that would be that. Family registers sound complicated.

What is Ha-ra going to do about the SML (whose name I refuse to learn at this point)? He was straight up pushy when he asked her if she didn’t love him back! I wish I was more shocked. It’s obviously a vulnerable thing to say to someone, but people also progress at different speeds, and it’s totally not acceptable for him to pressure her into saying she loves him before she is ready. He claims to be great at waiting but I have yet to see evidence of it. All I’m seeing evidence of is his unrelenting mediocrity.

Also, this is just a personal opinion, but I hold it quite strongly: Canadian tuxes should either match exactly, or be quite different shades of denim, none of this almost-matching stuff. Sorry SML, but you’re doing it exactly wrong. Not to mention your comically short tie. If I had seen you in that outfit, I’d have burst out laughing (which I did) and broken up with you on the spot. Irreparable differences.

I think this week's episodes validated my like/support of Eun Bum. Since the beginning, I never thought he was the absolute worst and cruelest (that seemed to a major consenus) but he was a complicated and flawed person who was capable of making harmful decisions (which could happen to anyone). I liked his maturity in dealing with Hee Soo as well as his former father in love. I liked his dynamic with Hara as well. I think they could be decent friends (or colleagues who give advice to each other) because they know each other so well and have very different perspective on things which gives them more insight into situations.

Oh Hara's father. How could he do and not think he deserved some kind of consequences?! He not only was acting like a (relatively) active father for years but he was also telling her that he would leave his wife that entire time (so he was likely still sleeping with her that whole time) and yet he had the audacity to call the situation a mistake. He's a jerk. If he wanted to take responsibility, he could've done an unofficial child support arrangement such as giving money every month without even meeting the daughter. I find his actions worse than Eun Bum's. Not so much the cheating because people can get over that but the way he's treated everyone after that. The first thing he says to Eun Bum after it's discovered is I never supported your marriage (what the flim flam?! Like that's the best opener you got?) and then he tells the girlfriend he's going to pay for their kid's college so don't contact him again. Just cold turkey after YEARS together. Not to mention whatever relationship he had with his daughter. Did he even tell her he was walking out on her (from her perspective) or was he leaving that up to the mother?

How long have Hara and Jae Gyeom been dating? I feel like they seem to be moving so fast. He was just saying he would wait for her to get over her past relationship and this week has meals with Mom and I love you declarations. I suppose people fall at their own pace and there's nothing that can be done about that but it just seems all so fast.

I think Shi-wook and Bi-chwi's relationship/dynamic is a bit like the bickering pair in Extraordinary Attorney Woo which made it not even remotely surprising to me that they would end up developing an interest in each other. I think the case they worked was just a bit more on the extreme side (extreme might be too harsh of a word haha) which was not only reflective of why they likely wouldn't work but for Bi Chwi, made her see Shi Wook isn't so bad and for Shi Wook see a bit of Bi Chwi's perspective because of how the client behaved and thought towards his wife. Shi Wook himself had mentioned a woman doing all the chores or having a baby for relationship purposes, so seeing that taken so far in reality seemed to broaden his mind a little (especially when the husband didn't even contribute but wanted to take half her assets).

I agree that this show is best when it's Ha-ra and Eun-bum together. They have such a natural chemistry and ease with one another, which makes sense given how long they were together. I actually love all the interpersonal relationships on the show, because they all feel so organic and natural. The only one I have some issues with is Jae-gyeom and Ha-ra.

I think the thing that bugs me about Jae-gyeom is that, while I think he could be great for Ha-ra, he seems a bit passive-aggressive. I was totally with him when he got mad at her for not talking to him about her issues with his mom, but the way he went about it rubbed me the wrong way. And the same feeling was there when he told her he loved her - the way he looked at her as if he expected her to say it back, just like that, when he knew her baggage. And maybe part of it is that Ha-ra still holds him at arm's length, but he also seems to be on his own timeline, and sort of expects her to get on board. I think he is a thoughtful and genuine person in his feelings, but there's always something that's just a bit off. It feels like they haven't had a real conversation about their relationship yet, and I feel like they have different expectations.

I would kind of hate it if the leads end up together, because it would nullify the reason they got divorced, which I think is one of the most realistic ones portrayed; miscommunication and the feeling of not being appreciated. It was weighing so much on ML that he chose a divorce with a hefty alimony over trying to make it work with someone he spent over a decade with. While I don't agree with his lying and fabricating an affair, the show would send out such a wrong message by pretending those are not valid reasons for divorce. Plus, it's so refreshing to see divorced people getting along and still have respect and affection for each other, instead of the usual hating each other or getting back together after resolving "misunderstandings". That's been done a million times before, let's try something different.

I liked these two episodes a lot, and that's largely because I really appreciate how they portrayed divorce or broken relationships in general as stemming from systemic and societal, rather than individual, issues.

One thing that I thought I understood but didn't truly until I was married was how enmeshed you immediately become with your spouse's family even if they are not people you would normally choose to hang out with. Although my marriage is fine, there were definitely times over the years when I could see how a certain set of circumstances might lead to my spouse wanting a parent to live with us, and I knew I could not endure that.

The writing did a great job showing that even when two people love each other, they may want to part because they can no longer tolerate how they're being treated by their spouse's family. It's also clear that this is a cultural issue in many countries of the world, including South Korea, that stems from a tradition of filial piety and deep, demonstrable respect for one's elders. Of course, these values are not necessarily bad, but they sometimes result in incredible stress for married couples.

I also appreciated how the show deals with conflicts over gender roles and the desire for both spouses to seek an identity outside of their domestic life or their assigned role as a mom/wife and dad/husband. This is playing out in several relationships on the show and I'm always up for social commentary that expands our understanding of how claustrophobic and limiting gender expectations can be for both men and women.

Finally, Ha-ra is so cool in many ways, but I also like how she has flaws. She handled finding out the truth about her divorce with such grace, even though it clearly hurt her greatly. That was awesome. But she still left those orange peels behind, which shows her casual disregard of Eun-bum's feelings and place in her life as something more than the guy who cleans up her messes. He's flawed as well, obviously. So I'm still not sure how they can or should find their way back to each other in a way that would stick. But they have undeniable chemistry, and still love each other, so I'd like to see the show try to pull this off.

I’m so glad that Hara has admitted to herself that she’s really not that into second lead guy. Less him, more Bichwi and Shiwook scenes please.

So far I’ve been 100% on Eunbum’s side even through the reveal of the made-up affair. But his outrageous hypocrisy in telling Hara’s father that he’s not good at lying made me so angry at him. What did he say--that he has a hard time making a fool of her by keeping her in the dark?? He has a hard time deceiving Hara??? Eunbum, sweetie, have you not been watching this show?

But then all those close-ups of him at the end of ep6 made it impossible for me to stay mad. I’m easy like that.

I am back on board with our leads this week now that the show has tamed down Ha-Ra's over-the-top need to win and Eun-Bum's aimless bumbling through life.

Many of us suspected that Ha-Ra's dad was cheating, so that wasn't a surprise at all. I don't like how her parents are putting Eun-Bum in the middle of their drama.

Jae-Gyeom has bothered me from day one, but I couldn't put my finger on why. But this week made it clear. His mother is PUSHY. idk if there's ever a perfect time to meet the parents, but naked on day one of the relationship definitely isn't it. His mom should've graciously understood Ha-Ra declining a meal and let. it. go. It was so rude for both of them to force a meeting, and then his mom showed up unannounced at Ha-Ra's job! Now I know where Jae-Gyeom gets his sense of entitlement from. I can't wait for Ha-Ra to dump him.

Clearly the show wants the leads to be the endgame. If they're the best part of the show, for the story, I don't like it.

I was surprised by Hana's reaction about the SML's mother, I found her pretty nice (It's so rare in Kdrama) and she will leave again so...

I really don't like the cases, they're so extrem and weird. I don't feel anything for the different parties.

I don't like the second couple. Again, these characters look like parodies and nothing about them work for me.

The cases in this drama are actually wild. Divorce is difficult enough. As for our leads, they still don't communicate well. Ha Ra is more open than Eun Bum is, which is why I cackled when he said he has a hard time keeping things from Ha Ra, sir.....As for her parents putting their BS on Eun Bum, I actually felt bad for him. What a mess. I feel bad for Ha Ra, her mom, and her sister. Her father and his mistress are both trash, with her father being a dumpster fire and the mistress just regular trash.

I’m not watching this, dropped it and I have no idea what’s going one. Just fast forwarding to the Ha-ra & Jae-gyeom scenes. It looks like they won’t end up together :(

But omg the beginning tho, hahaha. That’s one way to meet your partner’s mother. But Ha-ra girl did you look at shirtless Jae-gyeom???? Tap that, even you if don’t get together, c’mon have some fun with a super hottie!

Bi-chwi just rocks! I'll snap to if I have to hear such nonsense from the recent case husband. I really want the secondary OTP to work. The ultra progressive noona with a tacky conservative dongsaeng. ha ha
"why are you so proud for having lack of parenting skill when you are a parent?" hah
The books is The Selfish Gene by Richard Dawkins, Si-wook ssi.
And how smooth Jae-gyeom rejected Seo-hee love confession. I think, "wah this guy must have many love confessions to be this smooth?" 😅
More screen time with Hara and Jae-gyeom please...
Stranger Again now feels like Alone in Love with faster pace and less contemplative tone. Err I guess I'm gonna rewatch that show.

I liked the part with the secondary couple more that week and I wished we get more of them.

At first, I thought we would get more insight into how the in-law's intervention affected our lead couple's married life but it looks like the only thing we got was a prop device to get Ha-ra and Eun-bum closer.

I don't know about you, but telling someone that I love them when I clearly don't is manipulation and if I continue dating that person, I should first make my stance clear.

@missvictrix thanks for the weecap. The shift in the leads to normal friends interacting with each other took me a while to settle into but it is a much calmer drama now. I like the way they are together passing drinks, napkins etc so naturally but I don’t like the way Hara walked off leaving food behind, who does that? Whether it is in work or anywhere other than your own space where it only effects you food decay equals a bad smell and flies, it’s beyond lazy and nasty.

So the dad was holding hands with a child who was beyond the normal developmental stage to need it so it was clearly to show us just how close they are, plus it was underlined as he was at a medical appointment with her which shows he is engaged with all elements of her life and the caring role. Next scene, he has cut all contact but will pay for her education to fulfil his financial obligations. How cold do you have to be to dump a child because you got caught and have decided to stick with the original family instead? He doesn’t care about either of his children or his partners. The younger child’s mental health and emotional development is going to be effected by that level of rejection. How is she supposed to make sense of her value generally and specifically what she means to her dad. I can’t imagine how Hara as an adult will manage knowing her dad is not the man she thought he was.

The opposites attract couple do not work for me, I don’t know what Siwook sees in Bichwi or vice versa they have very different outlooks on key areas in life.

Hangil’s role in the firm is a mystery to me, does anyone get why he is there other than to share the financial burden, he feels like dead wood to me as I can’t see that he is good at his job.

I loved CEO Yeorae’s let’s die together tactic to get her ‘all mouth but no trousers’ ex husband to wake up and smell the coffee. But it was so sad to see how hard it must have been for her to endure such a horrific marriage and pay the ultimate price of losing all access to her child.

The trip to Hawaii and random turning up at the office, mother in law, are manipulation and control tactics hidden in plain sight and are all the red flags needed to know it’s time to back away slowly and then turn and do a sprint finish in the opposite direction. This man and his mum need therapy to deal with whatever leads to their neediness and difficult relationship with boundaries. He should never have signed up to be rebound man if he was not prepared to be a transition object.

I like the show and I like it more after the recap, thanks @missvictrix! You truly streamlined my understanding of what I just watched.

This man’s awful ways actually shed a nicer light on Shi-wook, and Bi-chwi begins to see that “old school” doesn’t mean chauvinist loser.

I like what the show is doing with Si-Wook and Bi-Chwi. Our modern lives are progressing in a fast pace that we are all losing sense of old customs that were actually beneficial to our health, wealth and life. No, not the oppressive customs that infringe on one's freedom or views, but things like responsibility and commitment.

This ep really reminded me of Familiar Wife--the divorcing couple had a very similar to situation to the main couple's marriage in that drama.

I greatly dislike the SML. Okay, to be fair, I usually dislike SMLs, but this one is just so insidious. He's not overtly terrible, but that's what makes it worse. He emotionally blackmails and coerces the FL.

I'm also wondering now if there was more to the main leads' divorce than what we've been told.

I want to like this drama, and I think I do, but I often feel like something is *off* while watching. I don’t know if it’s tone or messaging but something isn’t quite aligning for me.

I don’t see how the main couple transitioned to friendship so quickly. And, as time progresses, I especially cannot understand why the ML set his friend up with the FL. It’s weird. I mean, I guess it would be okay if they were 100% over each other but they clearly are not so it feels like too close for comfort. I don’t even know why the FL is forcing herself to like the SL. What’s up with that? Just to have kids? To try and move on? What is it?

The ML makes sense to me. He was embitterment by going all the way with his one true love only for it to fail. The FL is a mystery. Something about her character development feels uneven. Le sigh. I feel like this had a lot of potential but it’s not quite living up to my expectations. I’ll keep watching thought because the leads do have great chemistry together.

Did anyone notice the ML mother not recognize the FL's father in the lift ? Maybe ML hid his mom and family from the FL's family the whole relationship/Marriage period due to her being divorced. There seems to be something more to the ML here. Faking an affair seems like an easy way out for him.

OR the ML's mom was just slow to notice the people in the elevator :P

Really confused who is the person who stopped the Client in the 6th episode. It is definitely not the FL dad !
Got it hand it to these cinematographers, they drop clues everywhere. The FL dad running out showcasing this stripped shirt and flat shoes while the person who stopped the Client has a plain white shirt and pointed shoes :O

Have no clue who could it be ;(