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[Beanie Survey] Your take on all things K-content

Hi Beanies!

With K-dramas and all things K-content growing faster than the plot hole in your current favorite rom-com, we thought we would take a moment to ask for your thoughts.

What do you think about the expanding K-content universe? Where do your interests and loyalties lie? Please answer a few questions below (only eight — it’s super quick!), and if you’re feeling inspired, chat in the comments. ♥

If you’d prefer a direct link to the survey (instead of the fancy scrolling one below), click here.

 

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1. How many k-dramas have you watched in total? This year or in my lifetime 😂😂

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Your lifetime I guess 😅

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20 seems kinda lowball but yeah i opted for the lifetime version..

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I think it was a typo, they meant "200". They missed a zero. LOL

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lol!

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Thankfully the choices made us look sane. Imagine if one choice was ‘more than 1000’.

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🤣🤣

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I do think that our esteemed leaders may end up wishing they'd chosen a different scale here :). We're all going to look a lot alike if the bar is "Have you seen 20 Kdramas?" :).

Perhaps the lurking community is different tho.

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Either the overlords were very kind or in denial.
Who are these people who have watched only 20 dramas. Surely not a beanie 🙃

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I guess 20 is the threshold for the following questions to start to make sense 😅

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😆 🤣 😂

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This is going to be my new catchphrase to make friends at the gym:
"Tell me about 20 K dramas you've seen... or talk to me when you've watched enough"

Preferably said while carrying a box of homemade kimchi and wearing my best ajumma's flowery trousers.

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I am dying!! LOL!

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You bet!

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I wondered about that too! Haha
I can't even remember how many I've watched this year so I just went with my entire watching history haha

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I was like 20? The meme with the lady looking at mathematical equations. Lol, probably in the past 3 months.

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🤣🤣🤣

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I was going what 20?? Is this a joke I don't understand?

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I kept on scrolling hoping 20 wasn't the last option...

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Who has forgotten more than 20 k-dramas?

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🙋🏼‍♀️😂 I've only been watching for a year and a half and I'm pretty sure I've hit that mark.

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I've watched more than 20 that I wish I could forget!

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Ooohhh good one! I mean, i need to look up the drama list at the end of the year to count my beans ok.

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lmao literally reading that question THRICE to make sure it really was asking a total TOTAL not this year's total

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More than 20... Well, obviously, don't I sound suitably obsessed?

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Tbh I'd just like to have better kdramas, the discussions come in themselves.

I know this is a rather unrelated and unpopular opinion (or only my opinion) but maybe another sister site to expand beyond kdramas can be good for viewers of c, j, thai, tw dramas that don't find a positive community like DB to discuss them.

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I would strongly argue to keep the site focused on kdramas, or at the very least korean t.v./movies/other cultural productions, although I of course would have no objections to @wapzy 's suggestion of a sister site.

It is true, I have strong ideological objections which I know very few people share here, to the authoritarian Chinese government which regularly jails outspoken women and journalists, which has destroyed human rights in Hong Kong and its once vibrant film industry, is looking to take over Taiwan, and which heavily censors cdramas to ensure they don't challenge the government perspective. But I realize I have no right to impose my personal politics on others on this site, so that wouldn't be my main concern.

Instead, its that kdramas put in the context of other aspects of Korean culture are themselves numerous and complex enough to justify a site all their own--plus, the emergence of kdramas is a pretty fascinating global phenomenon, since previously other major global cultural influences, like that of the U.S. and Great Britain before that came from the economic and colonial influence of the country. I think this justifies keeping the focus on Korea--with of course, the informal forays into cdramas in the open forums that are quite frequent here.

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I agree, not just because of the social and political reasons you mentioned, but also because this is a place for kdramas and Korean content and should remain so. Yes, it's true that I personally have never truly enjoyed any cdrama (too slow and repetitious for me) but I have enjoyed some jdramas and Taiwanese content, and have no interest in Dramabeans covering those genres.

That said, I do like when people make non-kdrama recommendations in the "What We're Watching" and elsewhere. As you said, there's plenty of space for that to happen without the site officially recapping or providing dedicated discussion space to cover another country's content.

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Yes, I agree with you completely on that--I enjoy the free exchange of enthusiastic views on What We're Watching and other more open forums.

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I also have massive issues with the current Mainland Chinese government (genocide, anyone?) but I feel that's different than writing off Chinese society as a whole or the work produced by Chinese artists, especially when it's clear that many artists are actively pushing back against the censors and current policies, even though it's often in coded ways. I also know there's tons of propaganda out there, but I read a fascinating interview with a Brazilian playwright who turned to writing telenovelas during the brutal Brazilian military dictatorship of the 60's and 70's. He stated that he made the switch because he could be much more subversive in a "popular" medium and also reach a much broader audience because the government didn't view pop culture as threatening. However, if he wrote a play on the same issues, they would shut down his tiny production immediately because "high art" like theatre was seen as more dangerous. I don't think the citizens of any country are monolithic in their beliefs, and often the folks living under a brutal regime are most aware of and most appalled by its horrors (see South Koreans during the dictatorship era).

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I totally get that. I want to stress I am NOT critical of the Chinese people in any way. How much say does the average person have in an government which has the control of the bureaucracy, police and the army? Virtually none. While I hope in time there will be a mass uprising against the most oppressive of the officials, it is rare in history. Most people are just trying to get by. So I hardly blame the Chinese people for the sins of their government.

As for culture, the role of the Chinese in world history and culture has always been totally undervalued by the West.. I would never dismiss the enormous and immense contribution of the Chinese to human achievement.

I also understand, as well, that one can watch c-dramas and look for little signs that a drama is being subversive.

But I'll be honest, that's a lot of work for your average viewer (me, but I don't think I'm unusual) outside of China or the Chinese diaspora to do. That's why I would fully support a separate site that could discuss these issues, as well as the quality of shows.

But again, that's also why I would NOT support a weekly feature here at to discuss cdramas, given how many kdramas there are, and how hard it is to keep up with live watches, let alone vintage kdramas. Sure, if cdrama enthusiasts want to discuss their favorites in "what we're watching," more power to them. But I like it there, informally, not in a major change in this kdrama site.

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Coverage of K theatre, musicals 🎭

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That would be great but where do you get to see K theatre online? I did not know it was available online and what about subtitles? I think most theatre online has something for the deaf in terms of accessibility but I assumed it was sign language.

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Yes, other than some YT clips, I think it is an uncharted territory. 😔

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I recently started watched cdramas and I am at a loss trying to find a cdrama online community like dramabeans. This is a really good idea.

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Most of what I find are individual blogs, so the recaps are more like reviews posted after a drama ends. And while there may be a comment section, there's very little interaction.

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You could start a discord channel

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I feel like the way cdramas air makes it difficult to replicate the dramabeans experience, especially the awesome experience of doing a live watch and conversing over the recap within the same week.

There could be like 3-4 new cdramas launching in the same week and then they each drop like 40 episodes in a 4 week period.

It's like a flood of content. I can't keep up. And many dramas are blink and you miss it unless it becomes super popular or features a popular actor. Even with kdramas now. I used to follow the big 3 broadcast channels. Then we had cable, like TVN, JTBC... then we get some streaming-channel-only releases.

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Very good points.

Like many others, I don't necessarily want DB to start including non-Korean drama stuff - the open thread and WWW thread is more than sufficient. But I would love to find a site that's similar to DB in that there are places to have intelligent discussions (and the occasional spaz post) about C-dramas. The closest I've found to this is Bitches Over Dramas. She will post open threads that cover several eps so that anyone watching can discuss those eps. She has K, J, and C-drama posts.

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I like Dramabeans to keep in K content related, if it wants to venture outside its drama, fine but if it wants to cover C/T/J, no. I will find other sites.
If I want to look C drama recommendation, I usually go to My Drama List which has annoying site form. I don't discuss anything there just looking for recommendation. Or A koala's Playgrounds often posts about C drama, but the commenters there are one that annoying ha ha so I am reluctant to comment about anything.

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Coverage of CM/commercial/advertising news (included Kdrama stars and Kpop stars)

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I suggest weecaps of more ongoing Korean documentary/investigative/reality shows (i.e. Unanswered Questions (SBS), Hangout with Yoo (MBC), You Quiz on the Block (TvN)) and/or reviews of Korean documentary/nonfictional films.

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Yes to reality shows pls! There used to be regular coverage of 2D1N here, sadly it was dropped. Occassional coverage of selected reality shows (was the latest "Bros on Foot"?) are really nice, too.

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No mention of Facebook, Twitter as options for source of K-news. Guess, I am growing old for Social Media.

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I would like a monthly or weekly "Kdrama Meme" thread. Beanies meme game on fan wall is quite strong.

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I would like to be able to share other medias on DB thats not just from YT.

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I wonder if DB is

1. Going to organise a k-festival
2. Planning to add non-drama k-content

Personally i wouldnt really want no 2.
I do like it if they can improve the current site in terms of creating more features for beanies engagement w each other or as @wapz suggested, providing a space for other j/c/thai/tw drama discussions.

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Even something basic like a private chat feature would be good so you don't have to come off the site to chat to other beanies outside of a fan wall thread.
A faster more responsive site would be fab. I miss out on a lot of chat when the gateway errors appear which recently have lasted for a few days.

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Or when a popular article takes forever to load so u just give up on it.

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I definitely want mainly kdrama-related stuff from this site, but I wouldn't mind having occasional other k-content things as well, like food, culture, kpop, travel, etc. But that's never going to be the primary reason I come here. But I've loved the movie nights, and that frequency feels right to me, for the most part.

I feel like the majority of things I want (that this site is not already doing) are related to interactions/conversations with kdrama fans/other Beanies, because there is pretty much no one in my offline life who watches them.

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I’d agree with this - a special feature every now and then of food/culture/kpop/travel would be great (particularly if it ties in with that thing you always see in whatever drama) but the primary thing that draws me here is dramas and beanie interaction.

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This is what Javabeans used to do. Every once in a while there was a post about an interview, a famous celebrity's marriage, ridiculous photo shoots, or Korean culture notes. They were few and far between, and always felt like a surprise Christmas present!

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Fashions of the rich and famous at awards shows !!

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Yes, I enjoy the community here as I also know few people who watch. Cultural info I always find interesting especially as it relates to and helps to understand Kdramas.

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Ouch. That hit home kinda hard.
“…pretty much no one in my offline life who watches them.”
Yup- accurately describes me as well.
This is why I come to this site.

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This used to be the case for me but recently ive found a few people who watches kdramas. However, i dont think theyre too keen on discussing them. So DB it is then!

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Done!

I hope my responses have been successfully submitted :)

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I would prefer that dramabeans focus on Kdramas. I don't think it's a good idea to expand because Kdramas are already a vast theme.

There are other websites on Kpop or youtube channels for Kfood.

So, as long as it relates to the Kdramas (and not C, J, TW, Thai. I don't mind when people gives their opinion about other dramas, but I would prefer that dramabeans stays focus on Korean ones), I agree.

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I think ancillary Korean culture content would help add to the enjoyment and discussion of K-dramas.

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personal messaging!!!
Movies content very welcome (release dates, genre categories, lists, upcoming movie festivals regionally
I would really also like an overview and profiles of most known Drama PDs, writers, Movie directors
Hangouts for music shows!
maybe a Dramabeans Calendar feature?
Older dramas - availability - but also for current dramas - where can I watch, which regions available. I have tried to search many but either picture quality is horrendous or it is not available. I remember downloading dramas before 2010, took a veeeeeeeeery long time, before streaming was an option.
Maybe a Dramabeans Star Avenue - every year or month, the dramabeans staff could vote to give a star to 1 actor or actress or soundtrack singer or PD or variety star.

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Isn't that stuff on AsianWiki?

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true true, im just spinning ideas tho. i mean it would be more convenient - or perhaps a broadened introduction time and again

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Also MyDramaList

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yes more K movie coverage - so many movies coming out all the time, hard to keep track of them, and would be helpful to have recommendations and reviews. most of the critics picks on the web are geared toward artsy/angsty/horror movies - not exactly the type of movie I'd want to watch for a good time. Recently saw "Switch" (2023) which quietly blew my socks off and has now been added to the list of my favorite movies. I watched it two-three times in a row, which is something I rarely ever do for a movie.

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I saw Reply1988 mentioning that she liked Switch, and now with your shoutout, I'm bumping it up to the top of my movie watchlist!!

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While I don't wish to over-hype the movie for you and end up disappointing you, it is just a really well-written and acted movie with laugh out loud parts and a beautifully done ending. The only criticism really I have is the female lead's acting left a little to be desired. In key moments, her facial expressions did not deliver. I loved her in Smile You, but as she's gotten older and especially after she got married, her acting and expressions got more timid instead of more open. It was painfully obvious in Switch that her acting was not quite film-level yet. I actually got mad that they cast her instead of someone else who could have done a really amazing job with the opportunity.

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I think it also makes sense because a lot of stars jump between dramas and movies, and I feel like I don’t realize this and miss part of an actor”s growth and career unwittingly.

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We've always had film content in the past, in the news section, Awards like Baeksang and Blue Dragon, film reviews, and film festivals like Cannes, etc. If we can continue, that would be nice.

https://www.dramabeans.com/?s=Cannes

"Parasites" winning The Palme d'Or was a big deal for South Korea and globally. That's even more impressive than winning the Oscar.

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easier way to find it maybe? like the list of dramas on the right side and when they air, same for important movies coming up?

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That sounds good.

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I like how this site is now and people already do talk about dramas from other countries on the open threads. I get that they probably wanna get more in depth but then isn't that when people use their fan walls?

I like how there's been a monthly (I think it's monthly) post about a movie that either everyone has agreed to watch or that's being recommended or just discussed in general.

Once upon a time kvariety shows were covered and I get why that kinda went by the wayside but again, I think if people really wanted to talk about it, they could use the open threads or fan walls. (Sidenote: I'm SO glad those old variety show posts are still up. I just discovered them and it's like watching the episode all over again haha. I love those detailed posts and opinions and insights)

Another thing, Dramabeans has different social media accounts such as youtube & the site formerly known as twitter & instagram if you're into that.

I definitely don't think korean food or kpop needs to a thing here unless it's related to dramas because there's already so many places to write or talk about that.

But now I'm curious, what would you name a Dramabeans sister site?

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I like getting Korean history and references to food, locations, actors etc from other Beanies, that’s enough for me except when it isn’t and I have Wikipedia, YouTube and koreandramaland for more research.

If there are changes afoot, my greatest wish is that Dramabeans would load faster.

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+1 on loading faster.

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I would love to see more 'technical' content about kdramas. Like more in-depth stuff about drama structure & screenwriting, how it differs from hollywood. Maybe there are korean books about the industry itself that could be summarized or discussed. Or, for example, Is there a list of all the little plot patterns that they use? Are there Uni courses on drama writing, etc.
I know it's not a huge content area, but I really enjoy watching the drama structure unfold and getting a glimpse behind the curtains would be fascinating.

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yes, I'd love to know more about how Korea has all these amazing screenwriters. how did they become screenwriters without a degree in screenwriting? are there screenwriting night/weekend/cram schools?

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Good to see you back in the comments sharing your views on this topic😊 I agree it’s the uniqueness that drew me into K drama and kept me here so it would be great to get more behind the scenes from the screen writers for things like the truck of doom and the rom com/dark themed genre mix that seems unique to K dramaland. How they work the PPL in as some dramas are really subtle and others are in face without the humour. I want to know who actually can afford the giant massage chairs as they are so bulky you need a big room and I bet they are not cheap and yet random characters have them in their sitting rooms like most people have a cushion.

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I completely agree and second your suggestion! This is more journalist work but it's nowhere to be found.
Part of me also wants to know if the industry is highly exploitative or rather ethical with its workers (as far as capitalism can be ethical lol). I would like to know what goes in the making of what I'm "consuming".

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You may be interested in reading javabeans and girlfriday's book Why Do Dramas Do That? where they discuss dramaland tropes. https://www.dramabeans.com/2013/08/why-do-dramas-do-that-the-table-of-contents/

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thanks!

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This topic - how are dramas put together, from start to finish - is a major interest of mine.

I'm fairly new to kdrama, but it's clear that in the last 10 years, the industry has changed dramatically (thanks Netflix) and is continuing to change as both broadcast and cable channels restructure their business models.

How are deals structured? How much control does Netflix or tvN or KBS have over content and distribution? I read an article about the history of "Squid Game" (something I have never and will never watch) - it was almost pure chance how that particular drama came to be based upon a 10 year old script outline.

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20 kdramas? Lmao.
I started watching kdramas since 2013, and I’ve lost count.
I just started watching cdramas two years ago and I’ve watched more than 20🤭🤭🤭

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I would like to have a book and webtoon open thread for recommendations. I often start a webtoon when I know the drama is coming out and by then they have it behind a pay wall or you can only read it daily with ads and daily passes. There are a few different platforms so it’s hard to justify the payment to finish a couple of webtoons and pay for all the different drama platforms.

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I also think it would be good to update some of the policies even if it changed to a generic term like DB staff rather than referring to the previous owners who are no longer available to implement the sanctions.

I also think it may be useful with so many newbies on the site to have a standard phrase at the end of each drama post that states not to mention info from the previews, not to refer to webtoons original material when commenting on the drama as that can act as spoilers or add to confusion.

There are also things have changed/not clear re the recent debate about fan walls and spoilers, deleting messages and the potential reposting them with the edits may be flagged as a duplicate message etc. which email to use when facing tech errors or seeing random adverts on fan walls.

Ways to use Fan walls e.g. to include some explanation with the link to avoid the post being seen as spam. How to increase the length of a post so that the post is not restricted by the character count

I think a welcome to the site email could cover some of the above a FAQ or general etiquette when using the site. This could include things that will be classed as personal attacks, adding comments to week two comments section that have spoilers from week five so anyone coming to the show at a later date will be effected. Notes that long post will be truncated and ways to add the part two.

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Thanks for taking a poll for our opinions, DB staff!😊

This isn’t all relevant, but it seems like as good a place as any to share some additional thoughts (that are perhaps unsolicited!🙏).

1. I don’t think this was even suggested, but I’d really like it if DB didn’t turn into a celebrity news/gossip site. There are websites that do that, and I like that it’s not a focus here. That’s not to say that I’m above it - I was very excited when I heard that Son Ye Jin and Hyun Bin were a real life couple, I watch variety shows, and look up actors on Instagram, etc. - it’s just that I like the focus being on the shows and the acting and I think it’s part of the reason the community is so lovely.

2. I’d love a way to have bookmarks, so that it’s easier to return to the posts and the comments I want to revisit

3. The DB team already do a great job selecting themes and threads to invite discussion about multiple dramas at once. This is one way that post-drama discussion is already being encouraged and cultivated!

4. I agree with @Reply1988 and others that a private messaging feature would be great. Sometimes I worry about beanies who have gone quiet so it would be nice to have some way to check in with those beanies without publicly calling out to them via an @ on our fan wall.

5. I look forward to @welh’s weekly posts in the Open Thread because they include news or cultural insights. I don’t know if this kind of content can be formalised, but I appreciate understanding more about the cultural, historical, societal and political (etc.) context of dramas. Would it be possible for posts and comments like this to be tagged in some way? Then beanies who like that sort of content can find it more easily; otherwise, it’s easy to miss, especially when it happens on fan walls.

6. DB is the most fun when you can participate during a kdrama’s live airing. Comments sections for older dramas become very quiet after they air. I’m not sure what can be done about this, but it might be nice if perhaps people can subscribe to the comments section of a drama so that they are alerted when people comment on those dramas later. It’s like a way to say you’re happy to discuss it again with people who didn’t manage to watch it whilst it aired. But people who watch a show later still miss out on the contemporaneous fan wall activity, which is a shame! So maybe an option to tag fan wall posts with a drama name and episode number might be nice? (Sorry my wish list is very long!!)

7. I sometimes wonder how to make participating easier for lurkers and introverts. Maybe there can be more than just a like/thumbs up option? Like a heart, laugh, sad/tear-y face, and thinking option as well?

Sorry I seem to have a very long wish list!😅 This is not to say I am unhappy - DB is my favourite place on the internet, so thank you for what it already is!

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I really love your list! Especially 6 and 7!

Sometimes I also wish there were a way to "like" a whole post. Sometimes a post will pop up, and I read it and appreciate it, but I don't really have anything to add too it, so I don't comment. Or I'm following a drama through weecaps but not watching, so I don't necessarily know what I'm talking about enough to comment. In those cases, it would be nice just to be able to upvote the whole post itself! Might also be another way for lurkers to interact.

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I love the idea of being able to upvote a whole post!

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I think one problem with upvoting a whole post is that then it becomes easy to just do that and not actually comment and then the conversation dies away - so there’s a balance.

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Hopefully it will lead to two different things; lurkers and responders liking the post so the numbers viewing the posts are actually actively acknowledging their read and appreciation and the usual commenters do both. I would be surprised that the people who want to share their views on the drama would be happy to like and move on and not engage in the banter.

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I think the most immediate issue to address is how pages crash when comments go even a bit over one hundred. I love when the comments section gets lots and lots of intriguing discussions but honestly I don't have the time and energy to keep refreshing the gateway timeout, unless it is a reply to my own comment.

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100% - there are probably people who don’t comment or stick around because of that, sadly.

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I love your list too. I especially like that you acknowledged all that make this a fun safe place to be. There are so many knowledgable and/or funny people writing on here. I agree that staying away from the general info on the actors outside of their role or the drama itself etc. will maintain this as a toxic free no fan wars safe zone.

I also notice people disappear and hope all is well and they are just off enjoying real life so private messaging would be great for discrete checking in.

I have loved the increase in new voices that are staying active after a popular drama finishes airing as in the past people popped in and then disappeared when it ended. I hope we can find a way for lurkers and the active members to be able to show appreciation for the DB staff as the writers do such a great job and if the drama is not popular it must feel like they are sending their messages into the void.

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Thank you for these great suggestions! I agree I would really enjoy more information on Korean culture and I pay attention to posts from @welh but am sure I miss many of them. At the same time I'd rather keep the focus on Kdramas not fan gossip. And finally #6, I am usually one of those who posts late so it would be fun to know when others do the same.

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I vote for your no. 1. A year or two ago, I was very disappointed when DB opened a thread about an actor's scandal and the comments section turned ugly with almost everyone just bashing the actor, and turned uglier when a debate started about abortion, etc. Then that thread did not age well when a few months later, the scandal shed some more light to the story. I was almost afraid, DB would again open up a story about that. I am glad they didn't. So stay away from gossips and scandals and stories about celebrities please. It is ok for it to pop once in a while on the fan wall, that is a beanie privilige but DB should not curate such a topic and stay true to its orig purpose - just kdramas please.

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I couldn't agree more with this. I don't want to restrict what beanies can post about in Open Threads, etc. but on the rare occasions I want to know something about an actor's or idol's non-performing life, there are already plenty of showbiz 'news' and gossip sites to check. I see DB as something of a refuge from that.

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Personally, I really like the News section because I don't read Korean and also don't search around for stories or websites that cover Korean entertainment in English. I'd be happy to see that type of content expand to include a deeper dive into general entertainment industry news or happenings. I understand dramabeans doesn't want to get into the more gossipy coverage of actors and their personal lives, but it would be interesting to read and join a discussion about an interesting interview an actor, writer, or director gave or something like that.

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I would like to expand the film news bites and even the CM/commercial/advertising news bites (including the Kdrama actors and actresses and even Kpop stars).

Also, I would suggest to do a weekly update of PPLs on any ongoing Kdramas (including clothing/fashion?).

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I've said this before, but if recappers are given the time, space, and pay to write comprehensive recaps, we will get all the ancillary cultural information we need. Plus beanies always add to that in the discussion. So I say stick to recaps Dramabeans! It's what sets you apart from other sites.

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Hi Toki, good to see you. Let me be a simple concurrence to your comment.
O/T. You may have noticed I am missing over at MBC’s MY DEAREST. I took an official leave of absence and after watching the fusion sageuk JOSEON ATTORNEY decided to pass on any sageuks until KBS’ GORYEO-KHITAN WAR appears in Nov. I gather however that MD is a throwback to the days when sageuks were sageuks.

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Watching all these comments go by today, I just want to mirror each and every Beanie who said (or implied) that Dramabeans is their favorite corner of the internet. It certainly has become mine.

Yes, it could load faster because ugh JavaScript ugh WordPress ugh ugh 2017 (I loathe stating technical quibbles...but please let this be on the docket, pretty please...even if only for our Mother Bean @reply1988 whose internet isn't strong).

But, the community that has gathered here is golden. I'll contribute anything I am able to contribute in order to protect it.

So, could I add... @db-staff You've asked us for what we want to see here...is there anything more that you need from us apart from ten trillion opinions??

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🫘Beansprout🌱award for remembering that we would not be here without the DB staff doing the behind the scenes work to provide us with such great content on the site.

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You know what, Mother Bean? I know that @mellowarmadillo gave you a 🫘Beansprout🌱award buried now on the Fan Wall that one time…but how many have you yet gotten one of these a main post page? I hope it is not zero, but I worry it is.

I hereby offer a most heartily felt 🫘Beansprout for Being our Touchstone🌱 to @reply1988 for being a stalwart supporter of all Beanies. I know how much you suffer behind your crappy internet connection, and yet you continue to support us…but, frankly, even more substantially, you are always here to contribute your thoughts on these dramas.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again…if it were not for @reply1988, I think many of us would have remained lurkers. I’ve no direct evidence, but if there are more active Beanies now than there were 18 months ago…Reply is a central part of the reason. Not just because she “likes” our comments, but mainly because her ongoing commentary is consistent, detailed, and convincing.

Here’s to you!

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*“…but how many have you yet gotten ON one of these main post pages?”

Sigh.

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Thank you so much for my award😊

My expensive internet that is better than the old system but still sucks and makes me look unprofessional when doing therapy sessions. Apparently it’s the area I live in, but surely new estates should have new infrastructure automatically built in.

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I hope you will come back, with your comments soon.

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I answered the survey questions but like the average high school student I misunderstood what the question was asked of us so in reviewing my comment I realized it didn’t make sense lol. I guess my punishment is a month of night school with those kids in THE KILLING VOTE.

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I nearly want to beg for an easier way to access the tag index page, the WWW posts, and the drama chat posts. There is a long drop-down list on the recaps page, please please consider adding these 3 tags to it too. Or anywhere else on the site that you prefer, and is within 2 or 3 clicks, not me searching for dramabeans tag index page on google!

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I’m not sure if this is what you want, and I fear it is not. However, I will persevere and risk being “that Beanie who over-explains.” These three links below can be made into bookmarks in your web browser for your direct access. I know these aren’t links on the site itself…but:

Here is a direct link to the page with all of the WWW posts: https://www.dramabeans.com/tag/what-were-watching/

Here is the page with all of the Drama Chat posts:
https://www.dramabeans.com/tag/drama-chat/

Here is the page with the tag index:
https://www.dramabeans.com/about-old/tag-index/

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I know dear, I have them bookmarked on my browser}, after years of being frustrated.
But WHY should it be this inaccessible?? While there are tags and shortcuts around the site that are practically useless and could easily be removed!
The problem is probably my ocd, not the already over-worked db staff 😅

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Yes, I was ready to be the over-explainer.

Running a website is difficult. Being a reader can be frustrating.

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Thank you for seeking our input! I very much appreciate the DB staff. Not only are your posts informative and fun, you've found a way to monitor comments so they are respectful. Having participated in various other online groups, I can't over emphasize how important this is. I love coming here for the humor, shared interests, and the fact that as an introvert I feel safe posting comments.
🫘Beansprout🌱 award for DB staff for creating a friendly and welcoming space!

As others have already noted, I would love some tech updates. Pages load excruciatingly slowly, and pages freeze so often that it's now my habit to frequently copy as I write so I won't lose anything. Happening again as I write this!! Also a adding place for tech needs: support contact info, how to's for fan wall entries and general directions etc.

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Brilliant use of a Beansprout award🥰

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In response to the questions, I'm really fine with site continuing to focus primarily on k-dramas, with occasional forays into film or other types of TV shows (I feel like there are lots of other resources for k-pop, fashion, etc. and that the fandoms for those areas don't always overlap with dramas). The most helpful thing might be providing more ways to interact with other Beanies (for instance a feed of posts by folks you follow so "following" actually means something, or the ability to search for Beanies so you could see their latest posts or a way to message specific Beanies).

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I haven’t read all the comments yet but I would love a Korean book club! We could have discussions on the Hangout Thread dedicated to the book of the month or more realistically quarterly? A summary would be nice with questions to propel discussion. Yes I’m suggesting this as I want to be more accountable with my reading!

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I luv your idea. Count me in even if it does't become an official DB thing.

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Ooh! Shall we start one ourselves for the time being? Calling @reply1988 (the best book ally one could ask for) and @jillofalltrades (supreme book-lover and real life Scout). 📟

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I’ll definitely be happy to join in a non official book club! Maybe have our discussions on a Fan wall? I’m thinking one book every quarter (3 months), so beanies who are busy and slow readers like me can also participate!

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I’m also happy to do it monthly and I’m open to any suggestions! I’ve always wanted to participate in a book club!

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How shall we start discussing logistics? Shall we put it in open thread to get a sense of who’d like to join in? And then we can all vote for a book, and decide how long we have to read it. What do you think?

Sorry for my slow reply! Just getting back online properly after work today!

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But folks I have to also keep my jooooooob!!!!! Where am I going to find time to work with all of this k-content and internet friending?

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Keeping jobs is overrated! (Runs away and hides in a corner to laugh)

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Not read a single Korean book (translated of course) yet. :-D

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I agree that an Open thread discussion is the way to go to maximise reach of the post so we can get the names of interested parties and then transfer to a fan wall to collect the list of potential books.

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That would actually be really cool!

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I would like that a lot. I haven't figured out all the ins and outs of the site. I've read some Korean books in translation and some Korean-American authors. I wonder what other people have access to and would like to read?

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@reply1988 @mellowarmadillo @indyfan @jillofalltrades @toomuchtv @wonhwa
Just put the post up on the Open Thread 😊

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Please add me to this. Although I have to confess I have not read any Korean origin book till now.

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The options for the first question are strange. Exactly what kind of useful information do you expect to get out of those results?

Similarly the rest of the survey isn't very suited to how I consume dramas or media or Korean related anything, and I find the questions worded weirdly and suspicious, and since I can't leave certain ones blank, I'm sorry, I didn't submit my answers for it.

Maybe try fixing the fact that your site can't handle any post with over 100 comments and keeps breaking, first, before you try launching a Kdrama Con or any other major site updates and content changes lol.

Making the site more user friendly as it is NOW, and cleaning up the dozens of glitches and bugs that have been around since 2017, I think would be of greater benefit to you and your user base.

I know sites are more and more concerned with how they can keep running and making money to keep running, but all around me are sns platforms becoming carbon clones of one another, and becoming less and less usable for the general person, and less and less interested in quality of use, and the quality of content on them, just as I become less and less inclined to use them or engage at all.
Your open forum and recap discussion platforms are your strongest features, I think making those better versions of their current selves, and not biting off more than you can chew would be more recommended than anything else.

(Only @kayedrama and I will remember this but the private messaging that was briefly available in a limbo version of Dramabeans that existed only between site updates in 2017 sometimes still haunts me to this day haha)

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Does that mean that private messages was not the way to go hence it’s short lived existence?

I forget this is the updated site so it probably is good timing to review the features before introducing an upgrade. I think you make a good point that we don’t want to lose the things that we love, that make the site unique. We have a very small percentage of users that engage in comments/fan wall posts so I do wonder if the survey results will reflect the actual wishes of the silent majority who seem to use the site for recaps, and reviews but don’t comment. I wonder if there are lurkers who are premium supporters?

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If by short lived you mean like an hour...

But honestly, I think it was probably an idea that was being beta tested, and somehow a beta version of the site was briefly available as an accident, not intentional at all (we WEREN'T supposed to be there, or be using it) or something similar, and then shortly after that the site was sold, and the idea was probably canned, or they didn't have the staff for it or, or, or.

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And this is why Sic is Queen 🤭

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This is a really good point about everywhere becoming clones of one another - there’s a really strong community here and I think leaning on the strengths is wise.

Also gives me what I want so I would think that, of course 😅

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Suggestion: I'd love a column (maybe right under the "Currently Airing" column?) that lists start dates of upcoming dramas for, say, the next 2 weeks or 4 weeks. Maybe said list could be updated maybe weekly, when the "Currently Airing" column updates. Right now, I have to trawl through the News Bites to figure out what's coming next on which channel and unfortunately, my memory does not serve me well!

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Oh, this would be so helpful! I actually do this on my own for dramas that I’m interested in (yet another tab in the all-knowing spreadsheet), but it would be nice to keep all that info in one place. I think underneath the “currently airing” spot makes sense too.

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I have to put it straight in my calendar when I read it to avoid forgetting. I know there will be a premier watch post the day before just in case I forgot to write it straight away and missed it.

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Definitely want to stick with kdramas as the main content. The recaps and interactions with other viewers are the best things about Dramabeans.

I would like to see more tech and site improvements. Faster loading times. And the Drama Hangouts to be promoted better, like in the top header with the other sections or at least in the side column with a list of the current drama hangouts. I see they're in the Featured section, but there's limited space there and there's a lot of images on the Dramabeans' front/home page so they can all be a blur.

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Beanies have said almost everything I’d have wanted to say, so I’ll just say this one thing no one has mentioned: I think the SEARCH function is not very advanced, it only works when we key in the EXACT name of the show. Say, if I want to look for WHERE STARS LAND, I would have to type FOX BRIDE STAR, and even FOX BRIDE STARS wouldn’t work. Now I don’t even remember which name WHEN THE WEATHER IS FINE goes by on DB 😅 Of couse I can go to the google page, type the name of the show in whichever order I remember, and also type “dramabeans” as one of the key words, then google would show me the link to DB. But it would be cool if the search function on DB can detect a show by different names.

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I get around this by just choosing one keyword from the title and searching that. So "star" yields 12 options, but generally it's not a ton that I still have to search through to find what I'm after. It's also helpful when the "official" english title and the dramabeans title are different, since they often still share keywords. ("When the Weather is Fine" is a rough example, but on DB it's "I'll Find You on a Beautiful Day" and a search for "beautiful" yields fewer results to sort through than I was expecting!)

It would be great if the search was improved too, but this might solve some of the frustration in the meantime!

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The thing is I didn't even know the name "Fox Bride Star" existed, otherwise I could have used fewer words like you said as I have done with other shows. Same for "I'll find you on a beautiful day". Trying "weather" of course didn't show anything, but neither did "I'll come to you" because it is "I'll find you".

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*I mean didn't show anything related to "When the weather is fine". It could show other weather-related shows.

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When I posted the above comment, I still couldn’t recall what that weather show is called on DB, I just remembered its abbreviation has letter B, Y, O 🤣 And I thought of “Bring your own” lol. The phrase “On a beautiful day” only popped up in my mind when I was cooking dinner 😂

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I use google to find if there are recap of an older show. The search function in the site never or hardly never give me result.

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Thank you so much for taking community opinion into account. There are some good suggestions around the content of the site, but I'm with everyone who says content is not the issue (because it's great).

Instead, I would improve both the technical performance of the current site and its functionality, esp. in ways that enhance user engagement. At this point, many of us come here for community as much as we do for content.

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Jumping in for some general feedback: I think this site is brilliant and offers so much valuable information about all things kdrama. I especially like the “series/show context” showing up atop the recaps pages, and the easy access to find all matching episode recaps once you’re on such a page.
However, navigating sometimes is not easy and I would greatly appreciate adding a more sophisticated search engine, so that I could find dramas I’m interested in more easily. I find that I do have to know the exact name of a drama to find said context page - which sometimes I don’t because other titles are used in my region. I sometimes use Google to solve that problem, but it would be nice to have a dedicated search here. Features could be wildcard text search, multiple search criteria (say I want to find dramas with genre “rom-com” featuring specific actors), or even a recommendation engine (yes, that is not specifically a search feature but solves the same use case), so that I get to see other content I might be interested in.

That being said, I know how difficult it can be to develop these things. And before that was done, I’d have a look at overall site performance and introduce features to enhance that (like lazy loading of comments, since those seem to be the main factor when it comes to increased loading times, etc.)

But even without all that I’m pretty happy about the community that was created on this page, and can easily live with the status quo. Recaps & discussion threads to those are after all the main reason I’m on here. 😆 I don’t need other content…

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One reason I started to frequent this site was that some bloggers and a lot of commenters provided linguistic, sociological and historical context. I also really like it when there are book recommendations. I know that's kind of intellectual for a television discussion site that concentrates heavily on rom-coms! Yet one of the things that makes Korean TV addictive is the constant feeling of things being familiar and alien by turns. I would love it if every time there is a poem on a drama if there was a link to more by the poet or a translation, for example. I do google old songs to find videos on youtube, but it would be great to have a leg up on those. Like in the recent drama Not Others, there's a scene where the grandma sings a little song to the baby. I would love a link to someone performing the song. I might be weird though.

I do not need links to Korean food content as I am already watching "over 20" Korean food-content providers on youtube! I know from running a website in the distant past that nothing gets clicks like recipes, though.

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Yes, I love when there is context in the recap and I feel that there were more explanations of "typical Korean thing" in the past.
I know that it can be and feel tedious to repeat something, but I wish to see more contextualisation for current and future dramas.

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So many I lost count long ago.

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Almost everything I needed to say has been said, but here are my thoughts that I hope have not already been told by someone else:
a) This feels like a home away from home, and I have not said that for any site, not even Facebook, for about a decade now.
b) What makes it unique is its Kdrama content. There are fabulous shows from other countries, but something about K-dramas hits different. For example, when watching What Happens To My Family, I cried. Not the sniffling-dainty-tissue-dabbing kind of crying but the real, gut-wrenching, sobbing kind of crying. I cried so much that my head hurt for two days (especially episodes 40-43, which kills you.) Or, I have watched a drama and have become so obsessed that I still think about it months after it was over. Or, there is this one drama that didn't seem as exciting WHILE I was watching it, but it grew on me to the point that it keeps popping into my mind unannounced....this has NEVER happened with any other drama ever in my life. You like something, or you don't. But a story on screen that can take a life of its own - it's a first. So please, do not even think of diluting it. K-drama all the way! (Now, if we could find a way to reach the scriptwriters and tell them to learn about how to end a drama successfully.....)
c) I agree about revamping the site. I became a proud premium supporter recently. I am happy to contribute more if that would mean the site managers could free the site of bugs or transfer to a faster server.
d) I would love to learn more about the favourite actors/actresses of the beanies, so featuring an actor per week could be an option? Especially if they have other interests we could look up - theatre, for example. The newbies like us only tend to know the pretty faces that pop up all over the Insta and TikTok. Learning about other actors (INCLUDING those pretty faces, of course) would be nice. There were recently Park Seo Joon and Jun Ho topics that generated some fantastic discussions.
e) Last but not least, this site's kinship is made possible because of the extraordinary beanie admins, so I want to give a shout-out to all of you.

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