The second episode of The spies who loved me remains strong. It’s already better than My secret Terius lol (that like comparing apples to oranges but atleast they both are spy dramas). It kind of shows that the writer has written gritty movies, none of the spy stuff feels immature as of yet. Yoo Inna has changed my view about her, I never particularly liked her but she’s acing it here.
@purplesheesh@hazelnuts
I may just be overselling it because I was very excited by the time the second episode ended 😅 but I’m still digging it and while there might be a few immature spy scenes for the sake of fun, it still has more depth than most spy dramas. For now it seems less likely that it will deviate to a more immature route like most spy dramas but it isn’t all that heavy to begin with. Just intriguing for now. Happy watching! I can’t guarantee that anyone will surely like it because it isn’t amazing yet but it has the crack factor which isn’t ridiculous so it kept me hooked for an ep that goes way past an hour.
Ways to one up a girl kdrama style:
If she’s a Candy, a tsundere rich chaebol is enough to have all control over her.
If she’s a badass, independent woman, the hero should be an otherwordly being.
That is good, some improvement maybe?
There is still the hero saves the girl everytime, element in Gumiho too. Candys have issues of money and power which a chaebol can solve and rescue them. Now JiAh is independent but she’s given another set of issues which she can’t solve and has to inevitably be rescued by Yeon. That gets old.
The only example I remember where women were independent and their oartners were their equals is Be Melodramatic. Even in WWW I thought there was a power imbalance giving an upperhand to the women.
Very true. But I like to think Jia’s character and her independence has been a major improvement. And I totally agree with you about there being equality among partners. Very few dramas have that
Tale of Gumiho is slightly weird and I don’t know how long they’ll be able to carry the story well but I’m totally liking it rn. It’s the crack drama I needed to escape in dramaland. It’s similar to Goblin but I already feel it’s more substantial. Also LDW makes such a pretty Gumiho. The female lead is smart also maybe smarter than the male lead as of now but there’s this thing with Jo BoAh unfortunately that I think she just has a few expressions she keeps switching between and her tone of voice mostly remains the same. Kim Bum isn’t spectacular either but atleast all actors are serviceable and are doing justice to the material given to them.
For anyone who has ever taken therapy:
What should it feel like? It’s obviously not a magic pill that will take all your worries away but how does it help?Does it help in coping with the issue better?
In my case, it’s more like a consultation session. I once met a very bad therapist; she just wasn’t there for me and I felt worse leaving the room. However, meeting one that suits you well will make you feel like you have another person on earth that can give you another perspective toward your problems.
Oh ok that is reasonable. I think many people just think therapy will remove their issues but I think what you meant was that it is atleast able to give the person a different mindset to cope with the issues.
I’ve received therapy to help with mental health issues (what the exact nature of those issues are is still unclear — I can explain the symptoms pretty precisely, but different psychiatrists have said different things about what the diagnosis is, so at this point I’m convinced they are as confused as I am). My experience with it is pretty mixed.
The first thing I would say is that you should come in with realistic expectations. When I restarted therapy earlier this year after a really scary period in my life, I went in hoping I’d see some significant results quickly. That was foolish on my part. Therapy, if and when it works, takes a lot of time and effort. Moreover, my experience with it is that it helps more with underlying issues and causes rather than assisting with immediate symptoms. If you’re noticing significant impairment in your daily life (if you can’t sleep, if you’re experiencing physical discomfort such as stomach pains or trouble breathing, if you’re having suicidal thoughts, if your concentration is shot, etc.), you may need medicine as well (although I say this cautiously and without any claim to expertise, since I’m not a doctor and I don’t know your precise circumstances).
A second thing I would say is that a lot depends on your therapist. A good therapist will listen to you without judging, will meet you where you are, and will try to tailor his or her approach to your needs. On the flip side, a therapist should also be willing to tell you things you need to hear, even if they’re not what you want to hear. It’s actually really hard to find a therapist that meets this seemingly simple criteria. I’ve had a lot of trouble with it. I don’t think I’ve ever met a therapist who I’ve felt completely comfortable with, although I’ve had better and worse experiences.
Relatedly, you may need to change therapists. This is a corollary of the fact that not all therapists will work for you.
In terms of practical results, I think it may depend a bit on what the specific issues are. If it’s a particular event or set of events from your life, I think a therapist can be very helpful in trying to dispassionately reason through things with you and helping you get clarity.
On the other hand, if the problem is more of a recurrent thing in your life and not wholly or primarily caused by external stressors, it may be a longer and harder slog. It does help to have somebody who will listen to you and provide validation. However, this is again depends on whether you are able to find a therapist who actually listens and tries to understand you. In the long-term, I will say that a therapist can be helpful in fighting against recurrent irrational thoughts and “rumination”.
In terms of behavioural stuff, therapists have recommended me lots of exercises to do on my own. Some of them have worked, although most haven’t. It’s hit-or-miss sort. Most of the behavioural stuff that I’ve been recommended and that works for me is pretty obvious.
Thank you for this comment! I wish, in retrospect, that somebody had really tried to explain this some of this stuff to me before I started therapy. Managing expectations is super important because unrealistic expectations can be a source of friction or misunderstanding with a therapist, can lead you to blame yourself, and will just generally lead to a lot of disappointment.
I was about to delete this post after making it thinking that maybe I’ve given too much personal life information (I haven’t but one can guess) but after reading the very helpful comments and seeing how they have also helped you, I’m glad I didn’t delete it and will definitely keep it for anyone else to see too.
This was very helpful. I guess many people have unrealistic expectations. And tbh in my case I’ve seen it work so well for someone else, they literally turned a new leaf that I thought maybe it works the same for everyone. However I have no idea what was their own part in this, maybe they already proactively tried to make things better for themself. So simply thinking that maybe everything will now be set isn’t really what therapy is about. It’s the run off the mill suggestion for anyone who’s going through trouble…take therapy. So I too thought that maybe it works as a magic pill lol. But as you said for recurrent thoughts rather than an external event, therapy is time taking because it’s a fight against your own mind.
Also thanks for highlighting that one might need many therapists instead of one because it is hard to find someone who will be able to understand you and guide you accordingly.
Yes, if you get lucky and find the right therapist for you, it should help with your issue whatever it might be. That is not to say it will be quick and easy and you won’t get mad sometimes at said right therapist.
One thing I’ll add is that about getting mad at your therapist: your therapist might be telling you things that are wrong. This is one of the really difficult things about therapy IMO. On the one hand, you want to trust your therapist and his or her expertise. Furthermore, it is the case that a good therapist will tell you things that really need to be said or give you advice that really needs to be given which will nevertheless upset you, anger you, etc. But it’s also possible that your therapist will say things that just don’t apply to your situation, will form preconceptions or biases about you that aren’t right, etc. Figuring out when your therapist is right and wrong, and when you should or shouldn’t listen to your therapist, can be really difficult. Hopefully, though, you’ll find a therapist who’s good, so that you’ll generally be able to trust your therapist, even when your therapist makes you super mad.
Yes, absolutely, I meant a person might get mad in the best way possible, when the therapist is actually doing his or her job very well, and leading or making it possible for the patient to understand the causes of his or her issues, and the best way to deal with them. I’ve had therapists tell me nonsense as if they had been meeting somebody else entirely. That’s good because at least it’s harmless and makes someone search a better therapist but the idea they might be telling nonsense disguised as truth was a real possibility. Intuition and self awareness is important in finding the difference.
That is my confusion, in what form does the “help” come? For instance if someone has gone through a traumatic event, does it help with moving on because clearly one can’t forget? Or even with mental health illnesses, they do remain there, depression and anxiety doesn’t go away so what help should therapy bring to that? A diffierent outlook on the issue?
It should help the patient understand exactly what bothers them and how to deal with that. It’s not even about mental health problems. Do you know anyone who is perfectly content with everything about them or even close to it? To be very honest I believe everyone should go through some form of therapy in their 20s just to unpack, because there is just so much that all of us go through without properly dealing with it as we grow up. Families mess up, even the best of them, society keeps telling us all kinds of nonsense about winning and loosing some stupid imaginary race and much more, people keep pushing their insecurities and problems to us as if we are the cause of them. Who can escape all of that and still find their “better version”? And that is if you don’t develop any mental issue, suffer some form of abuse or traumatic event. Those should try therapy even faster! I’m not saying it’s the only thing that will help but I truly believe it can be the most important factor. I’m not a therapist but I think I can tell you it won’t make you forget things, instead it helps you put them in their correct place for you. I’m not sure if this will make sense for you but I hope it does. As far as depression and anxiety, it does go away, there are many people that go through them and get better and never show any signs of them again.
It depends on whether you’re seeing a social worker (ordinary counselor) or a trained psychiatrist, and what you are looking to get out of it. As others have said, it really is kind of a crapshoot.
If I may suggest, start with a psychiatrist who has a background in cognitive behavioral therapy. It’s really the only form of therapy that has empirical support for any practical success, compared to psychoanalytic (which really is a crapshoot in my experience) and mindfulness (which worked best for me). Having clear goals of what you want to get out of therapy will help you know when to switch therapists or try a different program if things aren’t working out. Trust me, the last thing you want is someone trying to practice being Freud on you.
It is indeed kind of a crapshoot rather than something that will certainly and surely help. Thanks for advicing about setting goals that will give a good insight on if it’s working or not.
honestly.. NO.. super expensive, and a lot of rigmarole, convoluted talking.. generic stuff that you KNOW (integrating self back into routine, normal day to day life/activities)
BUT, maybe truly amazing accomplished professionals are different (i don’t know how to identify them – even heads of best of the best hospital were just expensive and useless)
AND, unless you are severely clinically depressed where meds can maybe help you fall asleep.. meds really don’t do much.. ultimately they will also suggest the same thing – find the will to integrate yourself in normal routine life (whether this is depression or addiction)
Lastly, these consultation sessions are effective specially if you truly do not have someone to share your worries with. But, that is not always the case..
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One must have without fail – pay attention to physical (however) and mental (meditation) health –
This is myth, the idea that friends and relatives are just as good as listeners and will be able to give you the same feedback. They are important but they can only do their role,mostly emotional support, they are not professionals that have the proper knowledge to even begin to understand many issues.
I also think it’s unfair to expect your friends or family to treat you. It’s a hard job for the best of people, your friends and family can’t be impartial in the same way a professional can, you may find it difficult to be completely open with them, and they aren’t subject to the same legal obligations to protect information which you disclose to them.
Also, I will just throw out there that medication saves lives. I know lots of people for whom medication has been very useful. Is it the first thing I’d suggest? No. It wouldn’t be the second or third thing I’d suggest either. Over-medication is a real thing. However, I don’t think it has to get to the point where you can’t sleep or are severely depressed for you to seek out this option. Medication isn’t going to “fix” you; at best, it’s a strategic tool you use to manage symptoms when they become disruptive. But it’s still an option that should remain open.
If you are responding to me, i don’t think its about family treating you..
my point is, even if you have the most supportive system around you, it still doesn’t matter .. so therapy’s primary objective cannot and should not be geared towards “lending an ear” – that is hardly ever a primary reason for seeking therapy/ or the cure
I think having a supportive system matters a lot! It’s not a sufficient condition for improvement. However, for most people it probably is a necessary condition for improvement. In that sense, having a therapist to talk to, somebody who provides an informed external perspective and who provides validation, is beneficial. I obviously don’t want to claim too much — people are different and I can only really speak from my experience — but if you have the option to receive therapy (e.g., if it’s covered by an insurance plan you’re on) and if you can find a good therapist (which can be a pretty thorny problem), it’s not a bad idea at all try it out and see if it helps.
well .. ya.. people are different, problems are different.. depression has its own shades, problems have their own shades
However, whether something works or not, one constant must do i have observed is paying attention to basics – food we eat and exercise. If one is devastated, one must force oneself to stick to those routines/must dos.
No matter what you are going through – nutrient or hormone imbalances will always appear and are a telltale signs of sthg going wrong// or can help improve (it will never be the case that you don’t improve these underlying basics and can still recover, best one can find short term reliefs)
I used to hate routines and exercises but they help a lot. People function best when they live a disciplined life or atleast are more productive when they are disciplined. I think some issues are avoidable by a good routine, healthy food and exercise but obviously mental health illnesses don’t go away just like that.
I have noticed people listen to therapists better than friends and family even if they say the same thing. And I think that comes from people naturally thinking that this person is a professional and we should listen to them rather than just argue our way through with friends and family. But also they are trained professionals so they have a way to make you believe in them and that is mostly because they are impartial.
there is no concern about being judged..so you don’t double guess what you are saying (even with closest family members, one would be cautious at some level.. you are never truly carefree)
Your first paragraph is exactly what I struggle with. I know what they are saying very well so how should them telling me the same thing be effective? And that has made me doubt if it was even needed because it’s the generic stuff.
Former social worker here (with two parents who are counselors). In my family, counseling is something that you do to get support and perspective when facing really challenging issues in life. I’m lucky in that there was no stigma attached to it when growing up. A good counselor (which I have found isn’t about degrees, but about fit to you and experience) helps you understand patterns and gives you tools to work through your issues. You still have to put in the work, but it isn’t like living with issues and mental/emotional challenges is taking the “easy way” out. I hope that you find some support. Hwaiting!
I wonder what’s the least challenging real life issue? Because I have seen depression getting extremely worse for people too even if the cause behind it isn’t that huge. I did gather it’s a two way thing, the therapist can guide you but the effort to overcame the issues will be yours. But with the right therapist should this be done easily? I’ve also been thinking what is the take on people with trauma and abuse because instead of internal issues, that is an external event and shouldn’t therapy be tougher for them? I’m not able to describe it properly but what I mean is that even with mental health issues if one is unable to understand how they should be overcoming this then for people with trauma caused by someone else what should they be getting by the end of it?
So true, the reason/cause can be so so trivial in a normal setting.. but when you are depressed, at some level it stops being about curing the situation that instigated it.. but rather becomes an insanely difficult project of finding relevance, finding the energy to go on, finding hope and motivation to literally do anything (even brushing one’s own teeth)
SO CUTE! Super cute! And I’m not even watching this show. The exes keep me from being involved in an angst fest but I totally think I’m missing out a lot.
Yeah I checked a few clips and that does seem to be the case hah 😅 but I think I should be grateful to SBS that they put almost all OTP scenes on youtube so they are effectively keeping me away from all the rage.
I didn\’t think I would say this ever but I think I want an oppa. No, not a real life oppa but a celebrity oppa, someone I know I will not meet ever. I have never had an oppa like I do have celebrity crushes starting from Lee Min ho to Ji chang wook, add a little bit of Lee Seunggi and Song Joongki before his marriage and after Dots. Recently I have liked Xu Kai (but a previous dv allegation against him made me a little skeptical). However, I haven\’t really given anyone an oppa status. I have crushed on LMH for a very long time but since I was never really a fan of his craft, I could never fully appreciate him. Even having a celebrity crush is a weird feeling. You are excited for their new projects and look forward to them, you check their bts, bloopers, small interviews, everything and thoroughly enjoy their personality or atleast the image they are trying to portray. Well one can say that my celebrity crushes have more or less been at oppa level but they don\’t last that long for me to even do all this. Like I\’m not incinsere to my oppas but I don\’t even get to like one properly, I don\’t leave them for someone else but I lose interest in them. Recently I liked Kard\’s BM and have been checking out his podcast but now …I\’m done, I\’m over it, I didn\’t even crush on him. So idk why I even wrote all this lol but yeah crux of the story is I think having an oppa is nice since you\’re looking forward to sth and you\’re excited to see their projects and I think it is good that none of it is related to your real life.
ha ha.. my crisis happened when i moved from jo In suk to yoo ah in to park hye jin to that other guy in autumn drama (one with won bin and song kye ho) to song hye kyo 😛 to save me male lead to a few idols (so very very pretty) to lee jong suk.. stayed there.. then moved on to a few folks around the world.. and came back to lee jong suk.. and then i don’t remember..but ya flavour of the season/hour/day keeps happening :P.. all in a matter of a week 😀
I totally agree 😂
And I guess I’m just missing this feeling now. Like I just want to be giddy by seeing someone’s work who I never intend to meet but be truly happy for them.
Maybe you just have a healthy way of liking oppas? Not everyone can be as dedicated as Katak and Mindy 😆
I also started out a LMH fan (shhhh) but I was never interested in his personal life, or anyone since. I’ve watched an episode of variety shows or guerilla dates with the following actors: Jang Hyuk, Kim Nam-Gil, Yoon Shi-yoon. That makes them my ultimate oppas I guess? I’m always excited about their projects but I don’t watch them if they’re not my preferred genres 🤔
I wonder if my fangirling or well barely any fangirling is healthy or not but I admit I do get a little jelly of @katakwasabi and @mindy sometimes 😂. Not only are they dedicated but the people they stan give them constant updates/projects/content etc to keep them invested.
I too would not watch any drama for a person I like. But I miss the feeling of being excited for someone’s project. Idk if that makes sense 😅. I did not have a crush on LMH when The King aired but since he was the first one,that affection still lingers so I was really excited for The King. Thankfully the show was so bad that it erased any tiny bit of affection I had for him and now I know I won’t be looking forward to his next project.
I guess they are kind of your ultimate oppas who are interchangeable maybe lol. I too don’t go far in fangirling,I’ll probably just check some bts and an interview and I think I’m done.I still don’t know if it’s healthy or unhealthy lol but rn I have noone who’s upcoming project might make me jump out of my seat and look forward to it.
Watching \”The social dilemma\” on Netflix makes you question everything you do on the internet. This digital world is scary but it has also become increasingly difficult to live without it.
Would 10 on 10 recommend Twenty your Life on. Such a good show. It was one of the realistic portrayals of women in their 20s transitioning from university life to workforce. I was sold on this since the very episode when the girls had to confront someone and there wasn’t even one savage girl among them who would throw an amazing come back rather all of them kept pushing the others to say sth (lol), that’s exactly like me and my friends in fact the only savage person was rather shown to be rude who later grew so much.
Pros of TYLO:
1. All characters are real human beings, no villains, no perfect people. Everyone had their flaws and they overcame it. Plus there is a huge range of different characters. None of them fits in a template. All are multi dimensional characters with different backgrounds, families and personalities that they seem totally real.
2. The romances were all secondary. This show was totally about the girls and not their love stories. So in any part, their lovelines were secondary to their issues, ambitions etc. All the men were even in description written as secondary characters and the girls as the main ones.
3. The lovelines were though handled very well and I liked how the girls were very firm about their decisions, I was proud of them.
4. It was a very fun watch but it was also realistic. So it was never overwhelming but always great. Unlike many dramas, it shows that the 20s are a tricky time of life where one day you might fail, next day you’ll succeed and the next you may have to start again. Plus these hurdles may keep coming. So it’s basically a bumpy road not an uphill journey.
5. This show has a real glimpse of the owner-employee relationship. One of the only good businessman (president) portrayal I have seen in dramaland which shows that these people aren’t good for nothing chaebols but people who are very strict about their work and even the thought of any relationship in that dynamic isn’t a smooth journey.
6. The monologues for each episode were excellent and wrapped the journey of the girls and other characters very well.
7. As the drama’s title says, Twenty your life on, the show ended like a typical slice of life showing that their journey continues. But it was so satisfactory .
Cons of TYLO:
1. While I totally think this show and the growth of each character required 40 episodes, maybe slice of life and coming of age shows should always have lesser episodes. They become hard to marathon because they don’t really have cliffhangers or crack factor so unless you are invested in the characters, it is hard to keep going. I was fully invested but I still wished it could be around 30 episodes.
2. Too much overt PPL lol. I don’t mind it but if someone else does there’s a lot here.
Overall I’m going to miss TYLO as I loved seeing the girls go through their last year on tremendous work and life experiences. It is a light hearted, lovely watch while being meaningful. I even teared up in the last episode because it was reminiscent of my university days and how I was totally invested in these girls and so proud of them by the end, that it felt like I lived the journey with them.
was already thinking of watching it but your recommendation post confirms it for sure : I’ll start it in September (now I just have to make it happen before the end of September haha).
Already loving the fact that it’s a slice of life show, I am even more into them lately ^^’
As for PPL in Cdrama , I just laugh it out, ’cause it’s on some ridiculous level sometimes x)
Many thanks for the post about it ^^
September has started, I’m hoping you have started it too lol.
This was very good but I do know some beanies didn’t like it, so idk how this will fare for you. But in my opinion it was very wholesome and a more realistic portrayal then most kdramas when they tackle a certain age and the challenges that come with that. So I loved every bit of it, especially how the romances were secondary and the women were the most important, which is so so rare in dramaland, especially cdramas.
Haha well yeah the PPL was outrageous but I wasn’t bothered much, I got a good laugh.
Hi Wapz 🙂 , hoping you’re doing well, I’m back on DB , having 1-2 months of fanwall to check ^^’ , started with the notif.
So I did watch Twenty your Life on ,from mid-Sept to end of Sept. , so yay I managed to watch it in Sept. In the upcoming weeks, I’ll slowly make posts about what I’ve watched.
Long story short : I liked the drama a lot, among the four girls, the one working in Finance was my fav’ (sorry I’m bad with remembering names)… but turned out Director Zhou Xun was my crack (haven’t forgotten his name yet ^^’).
I loved the slow pace, realistic tone but I understand why some Beanies didn’t like it, it’s not everyone cup of tea, well to each their own ^^’.
Hope you’ve been well kudo, welcome back!
Yay so glad you liked it 😁
Many beanies didn’t so I was thinking if my choice has changed but looking back at this post, I totally enjoyed and liked this. Oh Zhou Xun was a very good buisness man portrayal. Being totally invested in work, keeping only that first. Jin Shija played him very well. But I was very proud of Xiao Guo (finance girl) for rejecting him. She cried for him and tried her best but this was practical that both of them shouldn’t be together. I liked all the breakups infact because even if the audience rooted for the relationships we knew that it is indeed better for the girls to not pursue it. That is why I said the romances were second, the girls were first. This story was solely about theit journey.
gotta admit I wasn’t that much invested in the other three girls’ journey, couldn’t relate to their personality or hobbies , don’t know how to put it.
“even if the audience rooted for the relationships we knew that it is indeed better for the girls to not pursue it.”
At one point , I was eager to see director Zhou Xun on screen even if I knew romance was second, so when she decided not to be with him, I knew it was the right decision for her but it still hurts a bit ^^’.
To answer your question, it has – in the sense that we’re going hybrid. A mix of in person and online lectures. I just finished a week of midnight math review lessons, and the whole thing is very well planned! While I wasn’t able to interact with classmates outside of class, at no point did I feel left out of the class discussion. So I have more confidence now in my school.
I had another friend telling me the same hybrid approach of universities too, that was in the US. Well good luck for everything, moving continents isn’t easy but I remember you’ve done it before too for studies (or maybe not?). I know your schedule would be packed but keep dropping by DB whenever you want to chill!
I love all the episodes but I guess since they are friends, this one was too effortless fun. I wish it was longer. Is that an Eric Nam show? I know he has a channel/podcast but don’t know the name.
There hasn\’t been any other public channel drama after Tale of Nokdu to come on Netflix too right? Plus Viki doesn\’t license Kocowa shows in regions they weren\’t previously available either right? That means Viki or Netflix won\’t have Into the Ring anytime soon right? These streaming services are making sure I choose the \”other\” sites and welcome several viruses in my computer which isn\’t working properly since yesterday ugh.
Viki promises to make ‘Into the Ring’ live in my region from this weekend, but they’ve started locking up shows a lot. I hope this doesn’t go down that path. A lot of the. others I was looking for are not available in my region either, e.g., Good Detective, Chip in, the new Cdrama Nothing But thirty, etc. In a way, it’s good because it’s brought down my net drama viewing time 😀
That’s an optimistic way to look at it. It’s my vacations tho and having a viki app and watching on mobile is so covenienet then having to switch on my laptop to watch on other sites. So I’m a bit frustrated with them.
Netflix and Viki have made watching dramas more convenient because we just do that on our phones without the fear of it being infiltrated by viruses. I only started using mobile apps when Netflix stepped into kdramaland because Viki still hardly has any show available in our region which ugh, we don’t live in another planet viki.
If you suck at sth, how do you get better at it? If you can\’t provide the right work, how do you know next time you will?
#Jang Geu Rae-ing through life
If you dont have a mentor, try to look for other avenues (online classes, youtube videos, etc) or people around you who already have experience. See how they do their work and try your best to replicate. Most of all though, never feel bad for making mistakes. Mistakes are part of the learning process. 💚 Hwaiting, I totally get how you’re feeling.
Thanks for this. It’s quite hard to have no guidance and when you think the guidance you’re getting isn’t enough and is taking way too long to get you somewhere. I don’t mind making mistakes but it seems like people on the receiving end don’t want you to make any which becomes immensely stressful. I don’t get how people start over and change careers, moving forward in your own field is tough enough, I don’t know how much courage it requires to start all over.
I totally understand where you’re coming from. From my first job, I came in not knowing the internal and external processes, and was often reprimanded (I get what you mean – being on the media side of advertising means you lose big money if you make mistakes and there’s a lot of pressure coming from everyone not to make them) when I was not even being taught by superiors. It’s difficult feeling like you’re alone and confused, just know that a lot of people go through the same when they’re starting (be it as a fresh grad or from a different field). You can do it!
So I missed all the posts on the drama soulmate activity going on here. Is someone still doing it? Becuse… I am.
10% Misaeng
10% My Ajusshi
10% Yong Jiu Grocery Store
10% Be Melodramatic
10% Seven Day Queen
10% Reply 1988
10% Jealousy Incarnate
10% Circle
10% Prison Playbook
10% Healer
Honorary Mention:
Just Between Lovers and Dear my friends (2 shows I haven\’t completed despite loving them)
Hah – no worries – no one’s ever late to the party here on DB 😀
We have 55%, I think – Misaeng, My Ahjusshi, Be Melo, R88, Healer and .5 for PP. And definitely, JBL from your hon.mens.
(While I am yet to watch it, does Yong-Jiu count? – I was thinking of making a separate t-drama list, although I have only 2-3 that I’d put on it for now!).
Lol I just did a top ten and didn’t realize it was meant to be only for kdramas. Hence it doesn’t I guess. I’ll replace that with The Most Beautiful Goodbye.
20%, 2/2 I’ve seen (Healer and Jealousy Incarnate)….I feel like I need to watch more dramas (but even would I get the time 😂😂😂) because no one has dramas in their lists I don’t like, I just haven’t seen any
I have only seen 4 – Misaeng, Prison Playbook, Healer, and Jealousy Incarnate – although I’ve seen some of Seven Day Queen. I would say I’m 30% based on Misaeng, PP, and Jealousy Incarnate (JI and Misaeng are, arguably, my favourite k-dramas of all time). I love JBL as well!
Me: I can\’t seem to press play on MUF and IOTNBO. Episodes over an hour seem like a chore.
Also me: Watches 6 episodes of Dance of the Sky Empire in a day.
Guess who worked his magic again?!
I know what you mean and how you feel about IOTNBO 😒😒😒 I keep telling myself that I don’t want to press play on the newest episodes yet until later in the week so that the wait for the newest episodes is reduced, but in reality, I just don’t feel like pressing play, period 🤷🏻♀️🧐🧐🧐
It’s too long. I feel exhausted. And that’s the charm of cdramas, 40 minutes episodes are so easy to watch that you don’t mind adding another.
Xu Kai, this boy has done it again lol. This show is the third consecutive one where his character has just kept on getting crazy. Had it been any other actor, I would’ve said they’re typecasted. But not him, he owns this kind of role and totally inhabits also. Also such male leads are rare. They are non existent in k dramas, but they do exist in cdramas. The mixture of weird, silly, humorous, powerful and bad but soft at heart. I remember the hero of I’ve fallen for you was the same too, even if he was good, Xu Kai has his own rendition of such characteristics that just make it so much more unique, engaging and real.
I agree!! If or when a Korean actor/actress gets repeatedly cast for seemingly similar roles, I’d say that they’re typecast because it seems they’re good at what they do, but it is the same thing over and over again. Chinese actresses and actors may seem to be cast in similar roles many a times, but even so, there’s always something new, fresh, and still not yet done when they bring the— seemingly same on paper— character to life on screen 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
Cable plz stop! As soon as I see that the episode crosses an hour, I lose interest. Was it love is 1h 8m, UF is 1h 15 min mostly. I can\’t press play. It may just be a few minutes more but I get tired.
It isn’t but Hosplay benefited from airing only once a week. Didn’t see cloy but R88 was a chore too. Nonetheless anything over an hour becomes exhausting.
There was a time when I liked longer episodes but now I too heave a sigh of exasperation when I see epsiodes crossing the 1 hr barrier. 1 hr is easier to sit through but 10-15 more minutes are hard. It just becomes too long. And also it becomes harder to find the time. I like to watch my dramas uninterrupted especially if its one that I’m enjoying but finding 1hr15mins of uninterrupted time is not always possible.
wapz
October 22, 2020 at 3:14 PM
The second episode of The spies who loved me remains strong. It’s already better than My secret Terius lol (that like comparing apples to oranges but atleast they both are spy dramas). It kind of shows that the writer has written gritty movies, none of the spy stuff feels immature as of yet. Yoo Inna has changed my view about her, I never particularly liked her but she’s acing it here.
purplesheesh
October 22, 2020 at 10:16 PM
Because of what you said, I’ll be watching Ep1 tonight. 🙂
hazelnuts
October 22, 2020 at 10:50 PM
I’d try this one, tonight!
wapz
October 23, 2020 at 1:42 AM
@purplesheesh @hazelnuts
I may just be overselling it because I was very excited by the time the second episode ended 😅 but I’m still digging it and while there might be a few immature spy scenes for the sake of fun, it still has more depth than most spy dramas. For now it seems less likely that it will deviate to a more immature route like most spy dramas but it isn’t all that heavy to begin with. Just intriguing for now. Happy watching! I can’t guarantee that anyone will surely like it because it isn’t amazing yet but it has the crack factor which isn’t ridiculous so it kept me hooked for an ep that goes way past an hour.
hazelnuts
October 23, 2020 at 1:51 AM
Better still! Haha. Gave up on the other spy drama, will try this to heal my heart from DYLB. LOL
alasecond
October 23, 2020 at 4:15 AM
agree..although yet to watch ep 2.. but ep 1 was solid
wapz
October 23, 2020 at 5:04 AM
Yay the fanwall is sleeping on it. And i want to shout that this just may be your next crack drama guys, watch it.
wapz
October 23, 2020 at 5:06 AM
And ep 2 is better.
wapz
October 21, 2020 at 2:14 PM
The spies who loved me had a strong intriguing first episode. Hopefully it remains the same.
Kairoskat 💐
October 21, 2020 at 5:59 PM
The ratings for ep 1 is good too (based on current standards 😆) ! I’m happy for the team~~
wapz
October 22, 2020 at 12:19 AM
Yay it’s a solid premier, glad ratings were good too.
wapz
October 22, 2020 at 3:13 PM
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wapz
October 16, 2020 at 3:52 AM
Ways to one up a girl kdrama style:
If she’s a Candy, a tsundere rich chaebol is enough to have all control over her.
If she’s a badass, independent woman, the hero should be an otherwordly being.
Mani-chan
October 16, 2020 at 4:57 AM
At least Yeon doesn’t undermine Jia
wapz
October 16, 2020 at 5:40 AM
That is good, some improvement maybe?
There is still the hero saves the girl everytime, element in Gumiho too. Candys have issues of money and power which a chaebol can solve and rescue them. Now JiAh is independent but she’s given another set of issues which she can’t solve and has to inevitably be rescued by Yeon. That gets old.
The only example I remember where women were independent and their oartners were their equals is Be Melodramatic. Even in WWW I thought there was a power imbalance giving an upperhand to the women.
Mani-chan
October 16, 2020 at 6:35 AM
Very true. But I like to think Jia’s character and her independence has been a major improvement. And I totally agree with you about there being equality among partners. Very few dramas have that
wapz
October 8, 2020 at 5:01 AM
Tale of Gumiho is slightly weird and I don’t know how long they’ll be able to carry the story well but I’m totally liking it rn. It’s the crack drama I needed to escape in dramaland. It’s similar to Goblin but I already feel it’s more substantial. Also LDW makes such a pretty Gumiho. The female lead is smart also maybe smarter than the male lead as of now but there’s this thing with Jo BoAh unfortunately that I think she just has a few expressions she keeps switching between and her tone of voice mostly remains the same. Kim Bum isn’t spectacular either but atleast all actors are serviceable and are doing justice to the material given to them.
wapz
September 29, 2020 at 10:25 AM
For anyone who has ever taken therapy:
What should it feel like? It’s obviously not a magic pill that will take all your worries away but how does it help?Does it help in coping with the issue better?
mmmmm
September 29, 2020 at 10:39 AM
In my case, it’s more like a consultation session. I once met a very bad therapist; she just wasn’t there for me and I felt worse leaving the room. However, meeting one that suits you well will make you feel like you have another person on earth that can give you another perspective toward your problems.
wapz
September 30, 2020 at 5:10 AM
Oh ok that is reasonable. I think many people just think therapy will remove their issues but I think what you meant was that it is atleast able to give the person a different mindset to cope with the issues.
Maq
September 29, 2020 at 11:28 AM
I’ve received therapy to help with mental health issues (what the exact nature of those issues are is still unclear — I can explain the symptoms pretty precisely, but different psychiatrists have said different things about what the diagnosis is, so at this point I’m convinced they are as confused as I am). My experience with it is pretty mixed.
The first thing I would say is that you should come in with realistic expectations. When I restarted therapy earlier this year after a really scary period in my life, I went in hoping I’d see some significant results quickly. That was foolish on my part. Therapy, if and when it works, takes a lot of time and effort. Moreover, my experience with it is that it helps more with underlying issues and causes rather than assisting with immediate symptoms. If you’re noticing significant impairment in your daily life (if you can’t sleep, if you’re experiencing physical discomfort such as stomach pains or trouble breathing, if you’re having suicidal thoughts, if your concentration is shot, etc.), you may need medicine as well (although I say this cautiously and without any claim to expertise, since I’m not a doctor and I don’t know your precise circumstances).
A second thing I would say is that a lot depends on your therapist. A good therapist will listen to you without judging, will meet you where you are, and will try to tailor his or her approach to your needs. On the flip side, a therapist should also be willing to tell you things you need to hear, even if they’re not what you want to hear. It’s actually really hard to find a therapist that meets this seemingly simple criteria. I’ve had a lot of trouble with it. I don’t think I’ve ever met a therapist who I’ve felt completely comfortable with, although I’ve had better and worse experiences.
Relatedly, you may need to change therapists. This is a corollary of the fact that not all therapists will work for you.
In terms of practical results, I think it may depend a bit on what the specific issues are. If it’s a particular event or set of events from your life, I think a therapist can be very helpful in trying to dispassionately reason through things with you and helping you get clarity.
On the other hand, if the problem is more of a recurrent thing in your life and not wholly or primarily caused by external stressors, it may be a longer and harder slog. It does help to have somebody who will listen to you and provide validation. However, this is again depends on whether you are able to find a therapist who actually listens and tries to understand you. In the long-term, I will say that a therapist can be helpful in fighting against recurrent irrational thoughts and “rumination”.
In terms of behavioural stuff, therapists have recommended me lots of exercises to do on my own. Some of them have worked, although most haven’t. It’s hit-or-miss sort. Most of the behavioural stuff that I’ve been recommended and that works for me is pretty obvious.
bbstl
September 29, 2020 at 3:24 PM
This is very well said, it was really nice of you to take so much time with your response 😊
Maq
September 29, 2020 at 9:14 PM
Thank you for this comment! I wish, in retrospect, that somebody had really tried to explain this some of this stuff to me before I started therapy. Managing expectations is super important because unrealistic expectations can be a source of friction or misunderstanding with a therapist, can lead you to blame yourself, and will just generally lead to a lot of disappointment.
bbstl
September 29, 2020 at 9:17 PM
👍🏼 You’ve learned very well!
wapz
September 30, 2020 at 5:15 AM
I was about to delete this post after making it thinking that maybe I’ve given too much personal life information (I haven’t but one can guess) but after reading the very helpful comments and seeing how they have also helped you, I’m glad I didn’t delete it and will definitely keep it for anyone else to see too.
wapz
September 30, 2020 at 5:22 AM
This was very helpful. I guess many people have unrealistic expectations. And tbh in my case I’ve seen it work so well for someone else, they literally turned a new leaf that I thought maybe it works the same for everyone. However I have no idea what was their own part in this, maybe they already proactively tried to make things better for themself. So simply thinking that maybe everything will now be set isn’t really what therapy is about. It’s the run off the mill suggestion for anyone who’s going through trouble…take therapy. So I too thought that maybe it works as a magic pill lol. But as you said for recurrent thoughts rather than an external event, therapy is time taking because it’s a fight against your own mind.
Also thanks for highlighting that one might need many therapists instead of one because it is hard to find someone who will be able to understand you and guide you accordingly.
Lixie
September 29, 2020 at 11:45 AM
Yes, if you get lucky and find the right therapist for you, it should help with your issue whatever it might be. That is not to say it will be quick and easy and you won’t get mad sometimes at said right therapist.
Maq
September 29, 2020 at 12:03 PM
One thing I’ll add is that about getting mad at your therapist: your therapist might be telling you things that are wrong. This is one of the really difficult things about therapy IMO. On the one hand, you want to trust your therapist and his or her expertise. Furthermore, it is the case that a good therapist will tell you things that really need to be said or give you advice that really needs to be given which will nevertheless upset you, anger you, etc. But it’s also possible that your therapist will say things that just don’t apply to your situation, will form preconceptions or biases about you that aren’t right, etc. Figuring out when your therapist is right and wrong, and when you should or shouldn’t listen to your therapist, can be really difficult. Hopefully, though, you’ll find a therapist who’s good, so that you’ll generally be able to trust your therapist, even when your therapist makes you super mad.
Lixie
September 29, 2020 at 1:56 PM
Yes, absolutely, I meant a person might get mad in the best way possible, when the therapist is actually doing his or her job very well, and leading or making it possible for the patient to understand the causes of his or her issues, and the best way to deal with them. I’ve had therapists tell me nonsense as if they had been meeting somebody else entirely. That’s good because at least it’s harmless and makes someone search a better therapist but the idea they might be telling nonsense disguised as truth was a real possibility. Intuition and self awareness is important in finding the difference.
wapz
September 30, 2020 at 5:42 AM
That is my confusion, in what form does the “help” come? For instance if someone has gone through a traumatic event, does it help with moving on because clearly one can’t forget? Or even with mental health illnesses, they do remain there, depression and anxiety doesn’t go away so what help should therapy bring to that? A diffierent outlook on the issue?
Lixie
September 30, 2020 at 6:39 AM
It should help the patient understand exactly what bothers them and how to deal with that. It’s not even about mental health problems. Do you know anyone who is perfectly content with everything about them or even close to it? To be very honest I believe everyone should go through some form of therapy in their 20s just to unpack, because there is just so much that all of us go through without properly dealing with it as we grow up. Families mess up, even the best of them, society keeps telling us all kinds of nonsense about winning and loosing some stupid imaginary race and much more, people keep pushing their insecurities and problems to us as if we are the cause of them. Who can escape all of that and still find their “better version”? And that is if you don’t develop any mental issue, suffer some form of abuse or traumatic event. Those should try therapy even faster! I’m not saying it’s the only thing that will help but I truly believe it can be the most important factor. I’m not a therapist but I think I can tell you it won’t make you forget things, instead it helps you put them in their correct place for you. I’m not sure if this will make sense for you but I hope it does. As far as depression and anxiety, it does go away, there are many people that go through them and get better and never show any signs of them again.
asterell
September 29, 2020 at 1:10 PM
It depends on whether you’re seeing a social worker (ordinary counselor) or a trained psychiatrist, and what you are looking to get out of it. As others have said, it really is kind of a crapshoot.
If I may suggest, start with a psychiatrist who has a background in cognitive behavioral therapy. It’s really the only form of therapy that has empirical support for any practical success, compared to psychoanalytic (which really is a crapshoot in my experience) and mindfulness (which worked best for me). Having clear goals of what you want to get out of therapy will help you know when to switch therapists or try a different program if things aren’t working out. Trust me, the last thing you want is someone trying to practice being Freud on you.
Lastly, delay medication as long as possible.
wapz
September 30, 2020 at 5:55 AM
It is indeed kind of a crapshoot rather than something that will certainly and surely help. Thanks for advicing about setting goals that will give a good insight on if it’s working or not.
alasecond
September 29, 2020 at 1:41 PM
honestly.. NO.. super expensive, and a lot of rigmarole, convoluted talking.. generic stuff that you KNOW (integrating self back into routine, normal day to day life/activities)
BUT, maybe truly amazing accomplished professionals are different (i don’t know how to identify them – even heads of best of the best hospital were just expensive and useless)
AND, unless you are severely clinically depressed where meds can maybe help you fall asleep.. meds really don’t do much.. ultimately they will also suggest the same thing – find the will to integrate yourself in normal routine life (whether this is depression or addiction)
Lastly, these consultation sessions are effective specially if you truly do not have someone to share your worries with. But, that is not always the case..
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One must have without fail – pay attention to physical (however) and mental (meditation) health –
Lixie
September 29, 2020 at 2:03 PM
This is myth, the idea that friends and relatives are just as good as listeners and will be able to give you the same feedback. They are important but they can only do their role,mostly emotional support, they are not professionals that have the proper knowledge to even begin to understand many issues.
alasecond
September 29, 2020 at 2:29 PM
well.. i haven’t seen professionals give any better advice, so. i’d rather reserve my judgement on not opinions but the facts of life witnessed..
ofcourse what facts exist in others’ lives , they know best
Maq
September 29, 2020 at 2:31 PM
I also think it’s unfair to expect your friends or family to treat you. It’s a hard job for the best of people, your friends and family can’t be impartial in the same way a professional can, you may find it difficult to be completely open with them, and they aren’t subject to the same legal obligations to protect information which you disclose to them.
Also, I will just throw out there that medication saves lives. I know lots of people for whom medication has been very useful. Is it the first thing I’d suggest? No. It wouldn’t be the second or third thing I’d suggest either. Over-medication is a real thing. However, I don’t think it has to get to the point where you can’t sleep or are severely depressed for you to seek out this option. Medication isn’t going to “fix” you; at best, it’s a strategic tool you use to manage symptoms when they become disruptive. But it’s still an option that should remain open.
alasecond
September 29, 2020 at 3:04 PM
If you are responding to me, i don’t think its about family treating you..
my point is, even if you have the most supportive system around you, it still doesn’t matter .. so therapy’s primary objective cannot and should not be geared towards “lending an ear” – that is hardly ever a primary reason for seeking therapy/ or the cure
alasecond
September 29, 2020 at 3:05 PM
in case of depression atleast, and in most cases (caveat)
Maq
September 29, 2020 at 3:09 PM
I think having a supportive system matters a lot! It’s not a sufficient condition for improvement. However, for most people it probably is a necessary condition for improvement. In that sense, having a therapist to talk to, somebody who provides an informed external perspective and who provides validation, is beneficial. I obviously don’t want to claim too much — people are different and I can only really speak from my experience — but if you have the option to receive therapy (e.g., if it’s covered by an insurance plan you’re on) and if you can find a good therapist (which can be a pretty thorny problem), it’s not a bad idea at all try it out and see if it helps.
alasecond
September 29, 2020 at 3:24 PM
well .. ya.. people are different, problems are different.. depression has its own shades, problems have their own shades
However, whether something works or not, one constant must do i have observed is paying attention to basics – food we eat and exercise. If one is devastated, one must force oneself to stick to those routines/must dos.
No matter what you are going through – nutrient or hormone imbalances will always appear and are a telltale signs of sthg going wrong// or can help improve (it will never be the case that you don’t improve these underlying basics and can still recover, best one can find short term reliefs)
wapz
September 30, 2020 at 6:04 AM
I used to hate routines and exercises but they help a lot. People function best when they live a disciplined life or atleast are more productive when they are disciplined. I think some issues are avoidable by a good routine, healthy food and exercise but obviously mental health illnesses don’t go away just like that.
wapz
September 30, 2020 at 6:07 AM
I have noticed people listen to therapists better than friends and family even if they say the same thing. And I think that comes from people naturally thinking that this person is a professional and we should listen to them rather than just argue our way through with friends and family. But also they are trained professionals so they have a way to make you believe in them and that is mostly because they are impartial.
alasecond
September 30, 2020 at 8:49 AM
hmm.. actually you do have a point there..
same logic as with strangers..
there is no concern about being judged..so you don’t double guess what you are saying (even with closest family members, one would be cautious at some level.. you are never truly carefree)
wapz
September 30, 2020 at 5:59 AM
Your first paragraph is exactly what I struggle with. I know what they are saying very well so how should them telling me the same thing be effective? And that has made me doubt if it was even needed because it’s the generic stuff.
Jules
September 29, 2020 at 5:14 PM
Former social worker here (with two parents who are counselors). In my family, counseling is something that you do to get support and perspective when facing really challenging issues in life. I’m lucky in that there was no stigma attached to it when growing up. A good counselor (which I have found isn’t about degrees, but about fit to you and experience) helps you understand patterns and gives you tools to work through your issues. You still have to put in the work, but it isn’t like living with issues and mental/emotional challenges is taking the “easy way” out. I hope that you find some support. Hwaiting!
wapz
September 30, 2020 at 6:16 AM
I wonder what’s the least challenging real life issue? Because I have seen depression getting extremely worse for people too even if the cause behind it isn’t that huge. I did gather it’s a two way thing, the therapist can guide you but the effort to overcame the issues will be yours. But with the right therapist should this be done easily? I’ve also been thinking what is the take on people with trauma and abuse because instead of internal issues, that is an external event and shouldn’t therapy be tougher for them? I’m not able to describe it properly but what I mean is that even with mental health issues if one is unable to understand how they should be overcoming this then for people with trauma caused by someone else what should they be getting by the end of it?
alasecond
September 30, 2020 at 8:47 AM
So true, the reason/cause can be so so trivial in a normal setting.. but when you are depressed, at some level it stops being about curing the situation that instigated it.. but rather becomes an insanely difficult project of finding relevance, finding the energy to go on, finding hope and motivation to literally do anything (even brushing one’s own teeth)
wapz
September 21, 2020 at 11:50 AM
SO CUTE! Super cute! And I’m not even watching this show. The exes keep me from being involved in an angst fest but I totally think I’m missing out a lot.
WishfulToki
September 21, 2020 at 12:47 PM
There are no exes. 😁 Well, only ex crushes; the leads have never dated anyone before…. But the angst is definitely raging around them!
wapz
September 22, 2020 at 3:43 AM
Yeah I checked a few clips and that does seem to be the case hah 😅 but I think I should be grateful to SBS that they put almost all OTP scenes on youtube so they are effectively keeping me away from all the rage.
purplesheesh
September 21, 2020 at 6:18 PM
😍😍😍😍😍
wapz
September 18, 2020 at 8:37 AM
I didn\’t think I would say this ever but I think I want an oppa. No, not a real life oppa but a celebrity oppa, someone I know I will not meet ever. I have never had an oppa like I do have celebrity crushes starting from Lee Min ho to Ji chang wook, add a little bit of Lee Seunggi and Song Joongki before his marriage and after Dots. Recently I have liked Xu Kai (but a previous dv allegation against him made me a little skeptical). However, I haven\’t really given anyone an oppa status. I have crushed on LMH for a very long time but since I was never really a fan of his craft, I could never fully appreciate him. Even having a celebrity crush is a weird feeling. You are excited for their new projects and look forward to them, you check their bts, bloopers, small interviews, everything and thoroughly enjoy their personality or atleast the image they are trying to portray. Well one can say that my celebrity crushes have more or less been at oppa level but they don\’t last that long for me to even do all this. Like I\’m not incinsere to my oppas but I don\’t even get to like one properly, I don\’t leave them for someone else but I lose interest in them. Recently I liked Kard\’s BM and have been checking out his podcast but now …I\’m done, I\’m over it, I didn\’t even crush on him. So idk why I even wrote all this lol but yeah crux of the story is I think having an oppa is nice since you\’re looking forward to sth and you\’re excited to see their projects and I think it is good that none of it is related to your real life.
alasecond
September 18, 2020 at 9:34 AM
ha ha.. my crisis happened when i moved from jo In suk to yoo ah in to park hye jin to that other guy in autumn drama (one with won bin and song kye ho) to song hye kyo 😛 to save me male lead to a few idols (so very very pretty) to lee jong suk.. stayed there.. then moved on to a few folks around the world.. and came back to lee jong suk.. and then i don’t remember..but ya flavour of the season/hour/day keeps happening :P.. all in a matter of a week 😀
wapz
September 18, 2020 at 9:42 AM
An oppa a
dayweek keeps depression and sadness away. I’m all for having many celebrity crushes but I just get over them too quickly.alasecond
September 18, 2020 at 10:21 AM
same.. this is the most b’ful way of falling in love..
love passionately.. don’t get hurt.. and move on.. lol.. neither oppa is hurt, nor you
wapz
September 18, 2020 at 10:33 AM
I totally agree 😂
And I guess I’m just missing this feeling now. Like I just want to be giddy by seeing someone’s work who I never intend to meet but be truly happy for them.
WishfulToki
September 18, 2020 at 11:44 PM
Maybe you just have a healthy way of liking oppas? Not everyone can be as dedicated as Katak and Mindy 😆
I also started out a LMH fan (shhhh) but I was never interested in his personal life, or anyone since. I’ve watched an episode of variety shows or guerilla dates with the following actors: Jang Hyuk, Kim Nam-Gil, Yoon Shi-yoon. That makes them my ultimate oppas I guess? I’m always excited about their projects but I don’t watch them if they’re not my preferred genres 🤔
wapz
September 19, 2020 at 12:11 AM
I wonder if my fangirling or well barely any fangirling is healthy or not but I admit I do get a little jelly of @katakwasabi and @mindy sometimes 😂. Not only are they dedicated but the people they stan give them constant updates/projects/content etc to keep them invested.
I too would not watch any drama for a person I like. But I miss the feeling of being excited for someone’s project. Idk if that makes sense 😅. I did not have a crush on LMH when The King aired but since he was the first one,that affection still lingers so I was really excited for The King. Thankfully the show was so bad that it erased any tiny bit of affection I had for him and now I know I won’t be looking forward to his next project.
I guess they are kind of your ultimate oppas who are interchangeable maybe lol. I too don’t go far in fangirling,I’ll probably just check some bts and an interview and I think I’m done.I still don’t know if it’s healthy or unhealthy lol but rn I have noone who’s upcoming project might make me jump out of my seat and look forward to it.
mugyuljoie
September 19, 2020 at 12:21 AM
Does LT know about this?
WishfulToki
September 19, 2020 at 9:04 PM
She’s indifferent
mugyuljoie
September 20, 2020 at 10:36 AM
😂 Of course she is.
mindy🐌
September 19, 2020 at 12:50 AM
Excuse you Toki are you suggesting I’m UNHEALTHY???
parkchuna
September 19, 2020 at 4:01 AM
I think the word used was dedicated. Which is totally not bad. Lolsss *runs*
mindy🐌
September 19, 2020 at 7:21 AM
But she said wapz has a healthy way of liking people, in comparison to Kat and me 😛
WishfulToki
September 19, 2020 at 8:17 PM
Shindy
September 19, 2020 at 3:17 PM
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wapz
September 15, 2020 at 3:00 PM
Watching \”The social dilemma\” on Netflix makes you question everything you do on the internet. This digital world is scary but it has also become increasingly difficult to live without it.
wapz
September 14, 2020 at 7:43 AM
Running Man is on a roll 😂
Mrs. Zora
September 14, 2020 at 7:55 AM
😂 🤣 😆
snowy the goyangi
September 14, 2020 at 12:40 PM
Oh gosh. Reminds me of Day6 on Weekly Idol 😆
wapz
August 30, 2020 at 12:33 PM
Would 10 on 10 recommend Twenty your Life on. Such a good show. It was one of the realistic portrayals of women in their 20s transitioning from university life to workforce. I was sold on this since the very episode when the girls had to confront someone and there wasn’t even one savage girl among them who would throw an amazing come back rather all of them kept pushing the others to say sth (lol), that’s exactly like me and my friends in fact the only savage person was rather shown to be rude who later grew so much.
Pros of TYLO:
1. All characters are real human beings, no villains, no perfect people. Everyone had their flaws and they overcame it. Plus there is a huge range of different characters. None of them fits in a template. All are multi dimensional characters with different backgrounds, families and personalities that they seem totally real.
2. The romances were all secondary. This show was totally about the girls and not their love stories. So in any part, their lovelines were secondary to their issues, ambitions etc. All the men were even in description written as secondary characters and the girls as the main ones.
3. The lovelines were though handled very well and I liked how the girls were very firm about their decisions, I was proud of them.
4. It was a very fun watch but it was also realistic. So it was never overwhelming but always great. Unlike many dramas, it shows that the 20s are a tricky time of life where one day you might fail, next day you’ll succeed and the next you may have to start again. Plus these hurdles may keep coming. So it’s basically a bumpy road not an uphill journey.
5. This show has a real glimpse of the owner-employee relationship. One of the only good businessman (president) portrayal I have seen in dramaland which shows that these people aren’t good for nothing chaebols but people who are very strict about their work and even the thought of any relationship in that dynamic isn’t a smooth journey.
6. The monologues for each episode were excellent and wrapped the journey of the girls and other characters very well.
7. As the drama’s title says, Twenty your life on, the show ended like a typical slice of life showing that their journey continues. But it was so satisfactory .
Cons of TYLO:
1. While I totally think this show and the growth of each character required 40 episodes, maybe slice of life and coming of age shows should always have lesser episodes. They become hard to marathon because they don’t really have cliffhangers or crack factor so unless you are invested in the characters, it is hard to keep going. I was fully invested but I still wished it could be around 30 episodes.
2. Too much overt PPL lol. I don’t mind it but if someone else does there’s a lot here.
Overall I’m going to miss TYLO as I loved seeing the girls go through their last year on tremendous work and life experiences. It is a light hearted, lovely watch while being meaningful. I even teared up in the last episode because it was reminiscent of my university days and how I was totally invested in these girls and so proud of them by the end, that it felt like I lived the journey with them.
bebeswtz❣️Xiao Zhan is my joy 🥰
August 30, 2020 at 1:06 PM
Adding this one and “Nothing But 30” onto my “To Watch” list!!!!
wapz
September 2, 2020 at 5:36 AM
Sure do. Both are by the same production company so I’m guessing nothing but 30 might be equally good too.
bebeswtz❣️Xiao Zhan is my joy 🥰
September 2, 2020 at 8:17 AM
I d heard good things about “Nothing but 30” 🤗🤗🤗
Kudo Ran
August 30, 2020 at 2:15 PM
was already thinking of watching it but your recommendation post confirms it for sure : I’ll start it in September (now I just have to make it happen before the end of September haha).
Already loving the fact that it’s a slice of life show, I am even more into them lately ^^’
As for PPL in Cdrama , I just laugh it out, ’cause it’s on some ridiculous level sometimes x)
Many thanks for the post about it ^^
wapz
September 2, 2020 at 5:40 AM
September has started, I’m hoping you have started it too lol.
This was very good but I do know some beanies didn’t like it, so idk how this will fare for you. But in my opinion it was very wholesome and a more realistic portrayal then most kdramas when they tackle a certain age and the challenges that come with that. So I loved every bit of it, especially how the romances were secondary and the women were the most important, which is so so rare in dramaland, especially cdramas.
Haha well yeah the PPL was outrageous but I wasn’t bothered much, I got a good laugh.
Kudo Ran
October 16, 2020 at 11:23 AM
Hi Wapz 🙂 , hoping you’re doing well, I’m back on DB , having 1-2 months of fanwall to check ^^’ , started with the notif.
So I did watch Twenty your Life on ,from mid-Sept to end of Sept. , so yay I managed to watch it in Sept. In the upcoming weeks, I’ll slowly make posts about what I’ve watched.
Long story short : I liked the drama a lot, among the four girls, the one working in Finance was my fav’ (sorry I’m bad with remembering names)… but turned out Director Zhou Xun was my crack (haven’t forgotten his name yet ^^’).
I loved the slow pace, realistic tone but I understand why some Beanies didn’t like it, it’s not everyone cup of tea, well to each their own ^^’.
wapz
October 17, 2020 at 1:39 PM
Hope you’ve been well kudo, welcome back!
Yay so glad you liked it 😁
Many beanies didn’t so I was thinking if my choice has changed but looking back at this post, I totally enjoyed and liked this. Oh Zhou Xun was a very good buisness man portrayal. Being totally invested in work, keeping only that first. Jin Shija played him very well. But I was very proud of Xiao Guo (finance girl) for rejecting him. She cried for him and tried her best but this was practical that both of them shouldn’t be together. I liked all the breakups infact because even if the audience rooted for the relationships we knew that it is indeed better for the girls to not pursue it. That is why I said the romances were second, the girls were first. This story was solely about theit journey.
Kudo Ran
October 17, 2020 at 1:49 PM
gotta admit I wasn’t that much invested in the other three girls’ journey, couldn’t relate to their personality or hobbies , don’t know how to put it.
“even if the audience rooted for the relationships we knew that it is indeed better for the girls to not pursue it.”
At one point , I was eager to see director Zhou Xun on screen even if I knew romance was second, so when she decided not to be with him, I knew it was the right decision for her but it still hurts a bit ^^’.
wapz
August 18, 2020 at 3:01 PM
Has anyone heard from @greenfields and @msrabbit lately?
stpauligurl
August 18, 2020 at 3:23 PM
I was wondering the same thing too!
Kairoskat 💐
August 18, 2020 at 4:16 PM
I haven’t heard from them too~~~ huhuhu
LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
August 18, 2020 at 6:48 PM
Greenfields is incredibly busy right now with a number of things in the real world. But as for Rabbit – I was wondering the same thing myself.
wapz
August 19, 2020 at 4:22 AM
I realized she must be busy. greenfields was here around June for some time but I think she isn’t active on discord too rn.
greenfields is back!
August 23, 2020 at 10:40 PM
Perfect time to have signed in then! 🙂 It’s been months.
And yes to being incredibly busy – I’m moving to a new continent at the end of this week!
Thank you for thinking of me @wapzy 🙂 Hope all has been well.
wapz
August 23, 2020 at 10:44 PM
Oh that’s great. I was wondering if Covid would’ve affected your classes. Good luck on this new journey 😊
greenfields is back!
August 24, 2020 at 12:15 AM
To answer your question, it has – in the sense that we’re going hybrid. A mix of in person and online lectures. I just finished a week of midnight math review lessons, and the whole thing is very well planned! While I wasn’t able to interact with classmates outside of class, at no point did I feel left out of the class discussion. So I have more confidence now in my school.
And thank you! <3
wapz
August 24, 2020 at 1:15 AM
I had another friend telling me the same hybrid approach of universities too, that was in the US. Well good luck for everything, moving continents isn’t easy but I remember you’ve done it before too for studies (or maybe not?). I know your schedule would be packed but keep dropping by DB whenever you want to chill!
greenfields is back!
August 24, 2020 at 4:27 AM
Thank you. 🙂 Will do!
MeloMe
August 19, 2020 at 12:33 AM
Was wondering the same.
mugyuljoie
August 19, 2020 at 4:17 AM
I really missed @msrabbit during Eternal PPL.
wapz
August 19, 2020 at 4:24 AM
Ms Rabbit hasn’t been active since March so I was kind of worried and surprised how much I missed her presence here. I shope she’s well.
mugyuljoie
August 19, 2020 at 4:26 AM
I’ve been thinking about her too and hoping the same
snowy the goyangi
August 19, 2020 at 1:31 PM
Same
wapz
August 13, 2020 at 8:47 AM
Whosoever thought to make Jessi host a Youtube show is a genius. Even the guests become unapologetically themselves around her.
neener ~ Inside the Magic Shop ~
August 13, 2020 at 9:00 AM
I just watched this a few minutes ago. A pairing I never thought I needed. She needs to go to the Kpop Daebak Show.
wapz
August 13, 2020 at 10:59 AM
I love all the episodes but I guess since they are friends, this one was too effortless fun. I wish it was longer. Is that an Eric Nam show? I know he has a channel/podcast but don’t know the name.
mugyuljoie
August 13, 2020 at 12:49 PM
He has several podcasts too including Commit or Quit (covers some Netflix and K-dramas).
neener ~ Inside the Magic Shop ~
August 13, 2020 at 9:49 PM
Right? I wanted it longer too! Yeap, it’s his content on YT and as mugyuljoie mentioned, those too.
wapz
August 12, 2020 at 1:13 AM
I was ranting about Viki not making shows available , but it seems like Korean TV would eventually move to streaming. Which means we\’ll have many more streaming services, each offering different content, some of which would be to our liking and some not just like how it goes on TV but I really don\’t want to pay to several streaming services. Come up with a collective solution y\’all.
http://koalasplayground.com/2020/08/11/big-three-networks-sbs-mbc-and-kbs-to-cut-prime-time-k-drama-production-in-half-in-2021-after-another-lackluster-ratings-year-in-2020/#comment-673367
sal
August 12, 2020 at 2:52 AM
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wapz
August 10, 2020 at 9:36 AM
There hasn\’t been any other public channel drama after Tale of Nokdu to come on Netflix too right? Plus Viki doesn\’t license Kocowa shows in regions they weren\’t previously available either right? That means Viki or Netflix won\’t have Into the Ring anytime soon right? These streaming services are making sure I choose the \”other\” sites and welcome several viruses in my computer which isn\’t working properly since yesterday ugh.
lovin
August 10, 2020 at 11:04 AM
Viki does have Into the Ring. I mean the subs are very very very slow. But it does exist, at least in my region.
wapz
August 10, 2020 at 11:23 AM
It’s not in my region and that’s the issue, I don’t think they ever make those shows available in other regions unless after a few years.
MeloMe
August 10, 2020 at 1:35 PM
So many shows aren’t available on our region on viki honestly 😒
lovin
August 10, 2020 at 8:17 PM
That is so frustrating! The licensing issue is becoming crazy. RIP Dramafever. RIP MySoju. Long live the freenternet!
pickleddragon
August 10, 2020 at 9:47 PM
Viki promises to make ‘Into the Ring’ live in my region from this weekend, but they’ve started locking up shows a lot. I hope this doesn’t go down that path. A lot of the. others I was looking for are not available in my region either, e.g., Good Detective, Chip in, the new Cdrama Nothing But thirty, etc. In a way, it’s good because it’s brought down my net drama viewing time 😀
MeloMe
August 11, 2020 at 12:46 AM
That’s an optimistic way to look at it. It’s my vacations tho and having a viki app and watching on mobile is so covenienet then having to switch on my laptop to watch on other sites. So I’m a bit frustrated with them.
pickleddragon
August 11, 2020 at 1:17 AM
Agh, yes I get that totally. Vacs are meant for bingeing. My sympathies :/
wapz
August 12, 2020 at 1:04 AM
Netflix and Viki have made watching dramas more convenient because we just do that on our phones without the fear of it being infiltrated by viruses. I only started using mobile apps when Netflix stepped into kdramaland because Viki still hardly has any show available in our region which ugh, we don’t live in another planet viki.
wapz
August 12, 2020 at 1:05 AM
I’ll try to check it out this weekend too but Viki never does that though. There are so many shows which even after completion aren’t available in SA.
wapz
July 30, 2020 at 2:55 AM
If you suck at sth, how do you get better at it? If you can\’t provide the right work, how do you know next time you will?
#Jang Geu Rae-ing through life
beesgiggle
July 30, 2020 at 3:28 AM
If you dont have a mentor, try to look for other avenues (online classes, youtube videos, etc) or people around you who already have experience. See how they do their work and try your best to replicate. Most of all though, never feel bad for making mistakes. Mistakes are part of the learning process. 💚 Hwaiting, I totally get how you’re feeling.
wapz
August 2, 2020 at 1:20 PM
Thanks for this. It’s quite hard to have no guidance and when you think the guidance you’re getting isn’t enough and is taking way too long to get you somewhere. I don’t mind making mistakes but it seems like people on the receiving end don’t want you to make any which becomes immensely stressful. I don’t get how people start over and change careers, moving forward in your own field is tough enough, I don’t know how much courage it requires to start all over.
beesgiggle
August 2, 2020 at 8:38 PM
I totally understand where you’re coming from. From my first job, I came in not knowing the internal and external processes, and was often reprimanded (I get what you mean – being on the media side of advertising means you lose big money if you make mistakes and there’s a lot of pressure coming from everyone not to make them) when I was not even being taught by superiors. It’s difficult feeling like you’re alone and confused, just know that a lot of people go through the same when they’re starting (be it as a fresh grad or from a different field). You can do it!
wapz
July 26, 2020 at 8:15 AM
So I missed all the posts on the drama soulmate activity going on here. Is someone still doing it? Becuse… I am.
10% Misaeng
10% My Ajusshi
10% Yong Jiu Grocery Store
10% Be Melodramatic
10% Seven Day Queen
10% Reply 1988
10% Jealousy Incarnate
10% Circle
10% Prison Playbook
10% Healer
Honorary Mention:
Just Between Lovers and Dear my friends (2 shows I haven\’t completed despite loving them)
pickleddragon
July 26, 2020 at 8:46 AM
Hah – no worries – no one’s ever late to the party here on DB 😀
We have 55%, I think – Misaeng, My Ahjusshi, Be Melo, R88, Healer and .5 for PP. And definitely, JBL from your hon.mens.
(While I am yet to watch it, does Yong-Jiu count? – I was thinking of making a separate t-drama list, although I have only 2-3 that I’d put on it for now!).
wapz
July 26, 2020 at 12:13 PM
Lol I just did a top ten and didn’t realize it was meant to be only for kdramas. Hence it doesn’t I guess. I’ll replace that with The Most Beautiful Goodbye.
beffels
July 26, 2020 at 12:19 PM
20%, 2/2 I’ve seen (Healer and Jealousy Incarnate)….I feel like I need to watch more dramas (but even would I get the time 😂😂😂) because no one has dramas in their lists I don’t like, I just haven’t seen any
earthna
July 26, 2020 at 3:51 PM
I’ve seen 9/10 but I’d say 40% hehe
Maq
August 9, 2020 at 11:52 PM
I have only seen 4 – Misaeng, Prison Playbook, Healer, and Jealousy Incarnate – although I’ve seen some of Seven Day Queen. I would say I’m 30% based on Misaeng, PP, and Jealousy Incarnate (JI and Misaeng are, arguably, my favourite k-dramas of all time). I love JBL as well!
wapz
July 15, 2020 at 2:55 PM
Me: I can\’t seem to press play on MUF and IOTNBO. Episodes over an hour seem like a chore.
Also me: Watches 6 episodes of Dance of the Sky Empire in a day.
Guess who worked his magic again?!
wapz
July 15, 2020 at 3:03 PM
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bebeswtz❣️Xiao Zhan is my joy 🥰
July 15, 2020 at 3:04 PM
Xu Kai 😍😍😍😍😍
I know what you mean and how you feel about IOTNBO 😒😒😒 I keep telling myself that I don’t want to press play on the newest episodes yet until later in the week so that the wait for the newest episodes is reduced, but in reality, I just don’t feel like pressing play, period 🤷🏻♀️🧐🧐🧐
wapz
July 16, 2020 at 3:31 AM
It’s too long. I feel exhausted. And that’s the charm of cdramas, 40 minutes episodes are so easy to watch that you don’t mind adding another.
Xu Kai, this boy has done it again lol. This show is the third consecutive one where his character has just kept on getting crazy. Had it been any other actor, I would’ve said they’re typecasted. But not him, he owns this kind of role and totally inhabits also. Also such male leads are rare. They are non existent in k dramas, but they do exist in cdramas. The mixture of weird, silly, humorous, powerful and bad but soft at heart. I remember the hero of I’ve fallen for you was the same too, even if he was good, Xu Kai has his own rendition of such characteristics that just make it so much more unique, engaging and real.
bebeswtz❣️Xiao Zhan is my joy 🥰
July 16, 2020 at 4:04 AM
I agree!! If or when a Korean actor/actress gets repeatedly cast for seemingly similar roles, I’d say that they’re typecast because it seems they’re good at what they do, but it is the same thing over and over again. Chinese actresses and actors may seem to be cast in similar roles many a times, but even so, there’s always something new, fresh, and still not yet done when they bring the— seemingly same on paper— character to life on screen 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
wapz
July 8, 2020 at 11:33 AM
Cable plz stop! As soon as I see that the episode crosses an hour, I lose interest. Was it love is 1h 8m, UF is 1h 15 min mostly. I can\’t press play. It may just be a few minutes more but I get tired.
isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
July 8, 2020 at 1:05 PM
Was it love goes by really fast. Solid first ep
wapz
July 9, 2020 at 4:35 AM
I was a little bored but I made it through.
mindy🐌
July 8, 2020 at 1:49 PM
That’s nothing after HosPlay and CLOY
Mrs. Zora
July 8, 2020 at 3:04 PM
and Reply 1988
wapz
July 9, 2020 at 4:31 AM
I love R88 but it was tiring. 2 episodes a week of nearly 2 hours each was a total chore.
MeloMe
July 9, 2020 at 12:00 AM
HosPlay just had one episode airing a week tho.
wapz
July 9, 2020 at 4:30 AM
That helped Hosplay because it was only a day’s commitment.
wapz
July 9, 2020 at 4:32 AM
It isn’t but Hosplay benefited from airing only once a week. Didn’t see cloy but R88 was a chore too. Nonetheless anything over an hour becomes exhausting.
MeloMe
July 9, 2020 at 12:00 AM
There was a time when I liked longer episodes but now I too heave a sigh of exasperation when I see epsiodes crossing the 1 hr barrier. 1 hr is easier to sit through but 10-15 more minutes are hard. It just becomes too long. And also it becomes harder to find the time. I like to watch my dramas uninterrupted especially if its one that I’m enjoying but finding 1hr15mins of uninterrupted time is not always possible.
wapz
July 9, 2020 at 4:34 AM
Yeap. Basically. I have noticed I do see 58 to 59 min of an episode uninterrupted but sth over an hour, I inevitably take breaks.
wapz
June 19, 2020 at 3:37 AM
Does anyone know where I can read Misaeng the manhwa in English?
pickleddragon
June 19, 2020 at 4:35 AM
Ha! I’d like to know that too!
wapz
June 17, 2020 at 2:09 PM
Is there any way we can search a beanie and go to their wall?
mindy🐌
June 17, 2020 at 2:30 PM
Google “dramabeans (username)”, lol!
parkchuna
June 17, 2020 at 8:41 PM
Much easier than stalking the wall!
wapz
June 18, 2020 at 2:59 AM
Lol so convenient. Best! Thanks.