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Moving: Episodes 8-9

We travel back in time for this week’s episodes to focus on the superpowered parent generation. In the 1990s, two of the agency’s elites collide during a mission with unexpected consequences. Our protagonists are then swept into political schemes when higher-ups use them as unwitting pawns in a dangerous game.

 
EPISODES 8-9

I love how all characters get their time to shine in this drama. This week we focus on Bong-seok’s parents Mi-hyun and Doo-shik, getting the story of how they met and what went down when they were agents. It’s a great set of episodes that gives us a sweet love story, action, and a glimpse of agency politics. This drama is so good at tone and tension which these episodes utilize particularly well.

We start in 1987 with a defining event for Doo-shik. He flies through the skies and quite literally affixes himself to a commercial plane. He tries to warn the pilots that there’s a bomb on board, but by the time he’s able to communicate this, it’s too late. The plane explodes, killing everyone on board. He’s haunted by this failure, although it wasn’t an official mission. In fact, he disobeyed orders to try to save everyone.

Mi-hyun’s defining event happens in China in 1992. She’s the agency’s most promising agent as the youngest and highest scoring in their history. In a time where women weren’t usually allowed in black ops, this mission is her chance to join their ranks. But things don’t go as planned. The mission is to eliminate spies at an event for Korean families separated along the North-South border. The agent in charge not only takes out the known spies but seems to relish in killing basically everyone and orders his agents to do the same.

Mi-hyun can’t stomach it and throws a stun grenade to create a diversion before blasting the doors open to allow people to escape. And with that, she effectively tanks her career as an agent. The mission is a failure, and she’s taken off the field to work as an analyst.

One final jump forward puts us in 1994 where the rest of our story takes place. Mi-hyun gets another shot at becoming an agent when Deputy Director Min gives her a secret mission: get close to Doo-shik and evaluate his ability to carry out a vital upcoming mission. This secret mission only further alienates Mi-hyun from her colleagues who are already resentful of how skilled and trusted she is, especially given her age. Her boss YEO WOON-KYU (Kim Shin-rok), who spends a lot of time sucking up to Deputy Director Min, gives her a particularly hard time out of jealousy.

Mi-hyun begins her mission and over the coming months, she learns Doo-shik’s habits and subtly places herself in his path at work. He takes notice of the pretty woman who’s always around, but it’s a while before he approaches her. After he introduces himself that first time, he starts coming up with excuses to spend time with her, like helping her carry those heavy file folders *wink*.

And wouldn’t you know, Doo-shik’s partner is none other than Joo-won! Joo-won gets off to a rocky start with Mi-hyun by talking to her casually rather than respectfully. She puts him in his place, though, by speaking casually right back. He sputters that he’s older than her and tries to pull rank, only to learn that she’s his sunbae; she just happens to be the agency’s youngest graduate ever. Ha.

It’s not long before Doo-shik reveals what Mi-hyun already suspected: he guessed her mission almost from the start. He just liked her enough to not be bothered by her attempts to get close to him. Since Doo-shik doesn’t want her to get in trouble with Deputy Director Min, who isn’t known for his mercy, and because Doo-shik has a crush on her, they decide to pretend like the mission is working.

Now they have a sanctioned excuse to spend time together and genuinely get to know each other. The more they interact, the clearer it is that Bong-seok gets more than his flying ability from his dad. Doo-shik is sincere and slightly awkward, and he wears his heart on his sleeve. At least, he does around Mi-hyun. Doo-shik is relaxed and playful with her, finding it a reprieve from how cold and calculating he has to be for his job.

Just like Bong-seok and Hee-soo in the future, these two are pretty adorable together. They have coffee machine dates and go out to Doo-shik’s favorite tonkatsu place, and then Mi-hyun gives fake reports to Deputy Director Min. He’s happy when she says she’s getting close to Doo-shik, but there’s a particular secret he wants her to find out.

She discovers said secret the night Doo-shik makes a flying food delivery when she’s working late. She’s stunned to see him hovering outside her high-up window, and not long after (mirroring the kids’ story) she in turn shares her secret: she has super senses. Mi-hyun can hear his crazily beating heart, and when they kiss, he floats.

Mi-hyun isn’t about to betray Doo-shik, so she lies to Deputy Director Min that she still hasn’t learned his secret. Oddly, he smiles and says she’s done well. The assignment is complete. Later, he tells Woon-kyu that his purpose with this mission was for Mi-hyun and Doo-shik to fall in love. Seeing as Mi-hyun lied for him, the mission has succeeded.

Doo-shik has no family ties, and Director Min needs to ensure he has someone to come back to and won’t run after this next mission. (That sounds ominous). He knows Mi-hyun intentionally botched that mission years ago. And so did Doo-shik. That night, Doo-shik was the backup sniper who should’ve killed everyone running from the room after she threw the grenade. Instead, he’d lowered his gun and let them leave. Director Min correctly guessed that they would connect based on their empathy and sense of mercy.

His secretary, who’s friends with Mi-hyun, overhears this conversation and warns Mi-hyun that Deputy Director Min knows she lied. Mi-hyun does some investigating and finds multiple hidden cameras around the building. When she confronts him about it, he subtly threatens her into silence by mentioning her sick father who depends on her government health care.

With the groundwork laid, Doo-shik is sent on the top-secret mission. A week and a half later, North Korean dictator Kim Il-sung is dead of heart failure, and Doo-shik hasn’t returned. Deputy Director Min is livid that Doo-shik went off-script (it was supposed to be a clear assassination, not a natural cause of death) and disappeared. His plan appears to be to pin this assassination solely on Doo-shik, making it sound like he went rogue.

Deputy Director Min orders an agency-wide manhunt. Mi-hyun is put under close watch, and sure enough, Doo-shik can’t help but go to see her. He flies to her window, and as they kiss and embrace, snipers take aim from nearby rooftops while agents bust into her apartment. We end as the agents race to pull the two apart.

Despite knowing Doo-shik has to make it out of this predicament somehow since he’s around until Bong-seok is a toddler, I still felt tense. I’m going to go out on a limb and say this is the start of Doo-shik and Mi-hyun’s break with the agency. I had assumed they simply retired as agents, but instead it’s looking like they went on the run. Even after only two episodes, I’m totally invested in their story and rooting for these two. Given that Doo-shik is not around for most of Bong-seok’s childhood, I know this can only end in tragedy, but I’m ready for the heartbreak.

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2 things came mind regarding Doo Shik: 1) like father like son 2) does this remind you of anything haha. Obviously it's been a running theme since episode 1 but the fact that the guy who *has* a handle on his ability still wound up rising stood out to me.

So, the director or whatever he is ordered Doo Shik to kill someone and then made him a scapegoat? That's what happened and just not how it seemed to me, right?

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Yes! I was watching Doo Shik and was immediately reminded of his son. So cute! I found it interesting that when he was at work he was cold and calculating, but when he was with Mi Hyun, he was this bubbly goof.

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I LOVE this, especially for the emphasis on character and the weirdly down-to-earth, slice-of-life feel to the totally out-of-this-world characters' lives.

subtly places herself in his path at work

I thought it was as subtle as a ToD and fully expected him noticing her trying to get his attention to be a plot point. Doo-shik is not as poorly socialized as he claims.

The father/son reactions to “oh my gosh a girl touched me” are so on point. 😂 Most of the wire work in this show is amazing, especially when Bong-seok is learning to fly, which makes Doo-shik’s static hovering and flying look a bit cartoonish in contrast. It’s a quibble, though - Zo In-sung and Han Hyo-joo are magnetic separately and together and his “falling in love at first sight” scene has soared on my list to a tie with the all-time great one in Chief Kim.

Park Byung-eun’s sadistic, lethal agent character in ep. 8 has the same name as his lovestruck softie character in Because This Life Is Our First. 🤣

The show needs to give Kim Shin-rok more to do than just kiss up and kick down.

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I think Dongshik's static flying because he has already been able to control his flying ability, but Bongseok is soaring because he still has to learn to control

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“Most of the wire work in this show is amazing, especially when Bong-seok is learning to fly, which makes Doo-shik’s static hovering and flying look a bit cartoonish in contrast.”

Perhaps they were going all in with the 90s authenticity, special effects included. 😂

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Re: Chief Kim…you mean at the batting cages? I may need to go back and watch that again, if so…

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I think she was doing it on purpose (carrying the same files every time) as well as pretending that her eyesight was compromised during that "failed" operation so that she could be demoted, as it was shown that on the night Doo-shik delivered food to her, she later took off her glass and look outside, and she could see Doo-shik far away. She only stayed in the agency for her father's medical benefits as she became disillusioned with the agency.

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I'm just in awe how effective the romance in this 2 episodes, at the end of ep 9, I just almost brimmed with tears. Some drama has 16 ep with more 1 hour each or the other has the character tells us "I love you' for 1000 times, and the romance still doesn't convince me, left me getting snarky every time ha ha. But Moving only need 2 eps

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I'm brimming with tears reading the recaps. I'm on my way to watch this.

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How could you have not watched it???
I kid 🙃😁

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I was sobbing at the end of ep 9. Not just tears! Like heaving! I blame my hormones…

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"if she likes purple, she's a crazy btch"
someone found out my secret!

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Seriously fell in love with MiHyun and DooShik's story. Well, I already love JIS so not that far to fall though. I like how they made us see why this two just works. Bong Seok definitely inherited a lot more from his father than his super power. They are just both adorable and charming beneath it all. Any girl will fall for them.
I am bracing myself for the heartache and reunion in future episodes.

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Of course I loved the romance, but in terms of the narrative, I was thinking maybe 1 episode devoted to its early stages would have been enough. In the end I'm more interested in what happened to them than I would have been in the second episode. There were a few too many flashbacks of the "failed" mission.
One thing that came through is how evil Director Min is. In the earlier episodes when he was confronting the clearly evil CIA guy, you thought maybe he was actually slightly concerned about his agents being assassinated. Now, you know that he is as much an enemy of the agents as the CIA, which is saying something!

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I think the failed mission is such an important story device to tell audience why these two match on a moral value level. As spies you rarely should have that kind of hearts to prioritize humanity than your missions. Yet, both of them intentionally fail it. Not due to empathy or weakness but they are both humanists. It sets a really important foundation to their relationship. The step by step reveals of why this mission was so important made the story even more intense IMO

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Yes, that point was made, and I certainly appreciate it. Its always an interesting theme as it has appeared in a lot of espionage shows and movies. But, because it is a pretty common theme, it was made from the very beginning the mission was shown. Repeated flashbacks help emphasize the point, but after about the 3rd flashback of the mission, I started to say, okay, okay, I get it.

Given that there are presumably quite a few stories yet to tell behind each of the agents/children of agents, one episode of this early foundation would have been enough for me. As I said, what is of greater interest is what happened after (and happens--I'll be the floating Dad is still alive after)

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Courage is putting aside the 7 well developed episodes that mostly focused on sweet cinnamon roll Bong-Seok and Hee-Soo and spending not 1, but 2 entire episodes on a detour. Heresy! No Bong-Seok for 2 entire episodes! And they made it work!
Bravo to the cast and crew. I was hooked on ep 1-7, but that tonal shift gamble turned my like into a love. I was floored.
Some of you may have been worried that Jo In-Sung had yet to make an appearance. Just like Kool aid man breaking through the wall yelling “Oh Yeah”, Jo In-Sung makes his entrance as Doo-Shik.
Mi-Hyun makes the transition from awkward smiling mom cutting apples for her precious son’s friend who is a girl to a serious as heck femme fatal employee/agent. At least we know why she opening up a dongkatsu restaurant.
What an incredible 2 episodes. Is it slow burn if it was only lasted 2 episodes?
The end of ep 8-9 had Crash Landing on You vibes. Screw the guns- Nothing is gonna stop me from getting my embrace.

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i would argue 8 and 9 were about BS.. just BS's origin story :P .. you know the sea men and the ova reez

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Who would have thought that for an entire episode I would be fascinated to watch two people "accidentally" running into each other and barely exchanging a word, and find this tremendously entertaining.

I was so fixated on the two of them that I didn't realise at all that Doo-sik's colleague is Hui-soo's future father. Of course, it doesn't help that I'm so bad at recognising faces.

I love the little details that don't seem to play an important role, but then become significant in a later episode. Now I know why Mi-hyun painted the roof terrace of her restaurant purple.

Let's see which seemingly minor character will play an important role again later. The secretary, perhaps?

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Secy is already important.. evil director's minion since ep 1

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and the restaurant is called namsan dongatsu..

and the scene at end of ep 7 when JIS hugs the flying baby.. shoot JIS has such a sexy dad energy

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1. She ordered tonkatsu in ep2 cos she was tired and she misses him
2. Her opening a tonkatsu place with that exact name with a big “opens through midnight” sign because that’s what they wanted
3. The purple roofs and curtains cos she wants him to be able to find them from the sky
4. Him comforting her “intended failure isn’t failure” wasn’t just empty words. He WAS there to not only witness it but took the same actions as her and they BOTH “failed” the mission due to them being humanists
5. Like father like son
6. He is a serious quiet spy type but he tries so hard for her
7. The mastermind to pin these two together was… in fact cunning and effective. It worked. He did come back for

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I liked these episodes, both actors were super cute for very dangerous spies! I liked to see the connections between the dad and his son.

But for the drama itself, it was like watching a new drama with a different era, sets, characters. It was weird they didn't connect at all with scenes in the present.

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Thank you for the weecap, @quirkycase! It's fun seeing Bong-seok's parents when they were younger. Both DS and MH's botched failures were due to their empathy so the director is exploiting that. And just like any company, there are always jealous colleagues. I hope Joo-won and Mi-hyun are still in contact after Doo-shik's death so they can help protect their kids.

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Noo don't tell me Dongshik is dead 😭😭😭

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I don't think it's certain that Doo-sik is dead. He is probably only considered missing. Because Mi-hyun seems to have hope that he will come back and find her. That's why she gives all these signs (e.g. the purple roof terrace) that he can see from the sky.

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But why do people think Doo-shik and Frank are dead? Jo In-sung and Ryoo Seung-bum are part of our main cast, so the writer would never kill them off yet.

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no he is not dead.. in hiding

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Jo In-sung has a certain je ne sais quoi. I can't tell you how many times I replayed Doo-shik opening the door. Normal people (i.e., Joo-won) push the door handle, but Doo-shik pushes the doorglass and pushes with his elbow with his hands still in his pockets. He even shoots a gun with one hand. Swoon.

Their meet-cute is love, but I feared that Doo-shik would feel betrayed by Mi-hyun seducing him through a mission, so I breathed a sigh of relief that he already knew. "I fell for you the first time I saw you" takes on a different meaning once we learn that Doo-shik was Eagle (which makes so much sense because eagles fly). I laughed when he said, "And that person could be a second-generation chaebol," exposing himself as a drama-watcher.

While Deputy Director Min is shady, his plan is (evil) genius -- tying Doo-shik down by letting him fall in love. What did Doo-shik expect the pilots to do? They can't land the plane in twenty seconds, so the bomb would've exploded anyway. It's so funny how the writer made Ryu Seung-ryong hoobae to Jo In-sung and Han Hyo-joo.

During Park Byung-eun's killing spree at the hotel, it suddenly dawned on me what Moving reminds me of -- Kingsman! Its use of graphic violence undercut by comedy. The agents practically killed everyone anyway, so why even search for anyone suspicious? So this week was Kingsman-meet-How I Met Your Mother (Father).

A big thanks for recapping, @quirkycase!

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Please allow me making a big claim here. Moving - contrary to our tainted lens on big budget productions by Disney and companies alike - reignites my love for or reminds me why I fall for Kdrama in the first place. That is, great story telling and swoony romances with family relations underlining the stories told. Watching kdramas in early years was such a warm experience. In recent years, kdramas venture into many different directions with shining exemplars like Misaeng, Strangers but not everyone is a success. We have fewer and fewer dramas delivering those feel and family values that I love so much - great romances are hard to come by these days.

Nine episodes in, Moving delivers in spades what I miss (despite the high level of violence which I guess reflects what is becoming the norm sadly). I hope Moving will continue to be one show of heart and show.

On Ep 1-9, I like how they start with the kids story before tracing that of their parents in the later episodes. The magnetic JIS and HHJ arc might over-shadow everything but it’s just right how they do it. So many elements in Ep 1-7 become self-explanatory now that we’ve seen Ep 8-9, as per @peachietime’s list. Deputy Director Min is certainly smart then and now - the most formidable antagonist you can ask for.

JIS has always had that charisma to turn anything seemingly effortless and I can’t wait to see the family reunion. I love love HHJ’s character - for once we are seeing a real capable female character who is ‘physically’ and emotionally strong and yet humanist. The romance of these two is so well done in an understated manner - I simply love it!

Can Wednesday come quicker?

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Heart and soul

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I read “heart and soul” up there and when I saw this correction comment I had to go back to see why you need to correct it 😊

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Totally agree with you, these two episodes had the heart and also the intrigue of old dramas where you didn't always know what would happen next. I kind of wish it was longer but they captured all the feelings so well in 2 eps that it being longer wouldn't serve it.

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I wanted to watch Moving for these two actors. So I gladly skipped ep 2 to 7 but now I'm wondering if I should catch up. These 2 episodes are probably the best thing I've seen from kdramaland this year. Though rather standalone and not entirely related to what I gather the teenagers part is. I kind of want an entire show on these two now.

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The kid-focused episodes are pretty great, too - although they'll land a little differently now that you've seen the parents. If you're going to skip something, FF through:
1. Frank's killing rampages, which go on and on.
2. Bungaeman/Gye-do, whose superpower exposition is way too long and corny just to learn that he can manipulate electricity and drives a bus.
The recaps will give you all the plot you need for those bits.

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I was wondering about the electric bus driver as well. Is he going to come back and play more of a role in the story? Besides, while in other contexts that could be a very useful superpower--it would allow a worry free conversion to electrical vehicles for example, since you would never have to be anxious about driving range or stop at a charging station. But if it doesn't really work against Frank, what good is it? Regeneration, now that is a useful superpower. If only I had that for my aching knees!

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I thought that the whole thing with Bong-seok's dead phone battery was going to be solved by a quick expositional dialogue between him and the bus driver. I know I might sound like I'm joking, but I'm actually being serious about this.

I couldn't imagine why I learned so much about how dude discharged electricity and then also, somehow, was able to store memories in alkaline batteries (I mean how does that even work?).

But no, Bong-seok showed up home and in danger with no quick charging assistance from Bus Dude.

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Well it’s Cha Tae Hyun so pretty sure we’ll be seeing his character a lot more later. But kinda agree that his character so far is not doing it for me. But the flashback to him as a kid gave me a good laugh, though it’s mostly because of the kid actor who played him(uju from hospital playlist)

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I, too, am watching Moving for Jo In-sung, Ryu Seung-ryong, Ryoo Seung-bum, and Han Hyo-joo. Also Kim Sung-kyun if his character is ever introduced. Cha Tae-hyun too, but I agree that Bungaeman was boring.

The adult actors have this charisma that the "teen" actors are missing (teen in quotes because the actors are all in their twenties). Bong-seok is cute, but Kim Do-hoon, who plays Gang-hoon, is the best actor out of the three teenagers.

You should at least watch Episode 7, which focuses on the adults. I didn't skip, but I was only invested in the adult storyline. Bong-seok and Hui-soo's puppy love can't hold a candle to Bong-seok's parents' epic, sweeping romance.

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Ep 1-7 is lovely to watch in its own right or you can ff the parts you don’t like. I wasn’t sure about this drama but couldn’t stop once started - binging all 7 episodes in one go. The attractions are really how it allows the proper space and time to tell each character’s story and develop their relationship. If anything, Bong-seok’s segment shines the best about his growing up under the watchful eyes of his mom (HHJ’s character) and his crush for Hee-soo.

There are 11 more episodes to see the family reunion and join force with other families to fight for the justice. Intense stuff if the trailer is to believe.

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Unlike most people here I don't have superhero fatigue, a well written story is a well written story. They are following the same track with this as the writers of the American Superhero show Superman & Lois. At it's heart it is a family show about people who happened to be super-powered. This allows them to keep our heros grounded while still telling am over the top story. This was such a great way of showing Bongseok's origin and his parents love story. I always say character development can be done in 10 mins, and this showed that. Lovely episodes.

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This has Heroes tv series DNA.. including the girl that will save the world because she regenerates

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Save the cheerleader, save the world!

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lol.. she was the most useless character throughout the run

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I never saw Heros, so that is good to know

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I have nothing new to add here that others haven't said already, but I just wanted to chime in with my love for these episodes and this show. I was so impressed with the ground the writers were able to cover in just two less-than-an-hour episodes. Two people who have to circle around each other silently for about half of the time allotted fall believably in love, we learn who they are at work and in private, and more than that, even without them being in these episodes, we were able to more deeply understand Bongseok and Hee-soo through the depiction of their parents.

The whole time I was reminding myself that Doo-sik must survive because they couldn't have conceived their son yet (right?) and Bongseok does have a living memory of his father (right??). But the tension was so powerful at the end that I second guessed my certainty, which again, shows how well done these episodes really were.

A few random thoughts:

--Although it was exciting and tragic (because it was linked to a real event) I didn't understand what Doo-sik thought he could have done to stop that plane from exploding once it took off. Even if the pilots started trying to hurry to land, they'd have to find an appropriate place to do so not over water, and even then, they couldn't stop the bomb from exploding.

--I thought "Eagle" not only decided to spare the other agents' lives, but that he primarily wanted to spare Mi-hyun. The two flashbacks of him hovering in the air show him pointing his gun in Mi-hyun's direction as he studies her. Wasn't that supposed to be the moment he first fell in love? And also, wasn't the suggestion that part of his mission was to take her out at that moment because she ruined the entire operation (it didn't make sense to me in general that the worst thing that happened to her is that she was demoted)?

Unlike others, I haven't actually seen Jo In-sung in very much, so I can't say I was especially anticipating his role. But he was wonderful as Doo-sik and I'm so sad we may never see more of him after this.

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My guess is Doo-shik informed the pilots that there is a bomb in their plane so they can find it, or miraculous can stop it from exploding. And his choice to spare other agents, because just by looking Mi-hyun's disturbed expression, he decided that the operation was not right.

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Oh, I had assumed his job was to kill her and he fell in love with her at first sight instead.

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That's what I thought, too, not only because of the way Doo-sik was staring right at her, but also because if the head of the operation was that eager to kill spies and non-spies alike, he would have wanted her dead as well for the way she hesitated and then bungled the operation. The fact that Doo-sik doesn't tell Mi-hyun about it also made me think he fell in love with her in that moment.

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so.. director knew since then that DooShik was smitten by the beauty :P

i find our director very interesting and how is he holding up against all these men and women with awesome powers..

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Yess of course, our 'director' also knew since these two epsiodes, we all would have been smitten with Doo-shik oh I meant Jo Insung.

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I don't think that his mission was to kill her because the head agent screamed, "Those bastards are all running away!" so Doo-shik's order was killing runaway spies. If the psycho head agent wanted Mi-hyun dead, he would've killed her himself like he did double agent Park.

Doo-shik definitely fell in love with her in that moment, but Mi-hyun had misunderstood that the first time was during her mission to get close to him.

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”Empathy is what real power looks like”
Mi-Hyun ep2 lecturing an elementary school Bong-Seok as he was showing off to his classmates.
This scene hits so much harder now on a rewatch.

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Gah. I loved these two episodes so much as well. And I’m so glad I watched them back to back because it felt like I’d stepped into a two-hour movie—The Spies Who Loved Each Other, as it was called on the WWW thread. The story was not only beautiful on its own, I loved all the links to the the earlier (but chronologically later) episodes—from the little details like the tonkatsu restaurant to Bong-seok himself.

However, I was glad there was a weeklong break after Episode 7 because otherwise these episodes, so different from the preceding ones, might have jarred a little. (I could think of a dozen ways they might have been more connected.)

I also think there was some issue of proportion and pace. I might have expanded the last confusing quarter of Ep. 9. And instead cut back some of the flashback within flashback scene (in the banquet hall) as hacja stated. I would have even cut at least one episode of the teen arc and developed the parents arc further so the pace of the two arcs matched. Or maybe that’s an excuse for more JIS-HHJ goodness. (I will not refer again to all my JIS swooning.) 😂

Anyway, minor quibbles because I really did love these episodes. Superb show.

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A minor thought: How did Mi-hyun ace spy school when she carried the same stack of files day after day on her encounters?

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Part of me thinks that she “did it accidentally on purpose.” Because she’s such an ace, I don’t think she would have made such a silly error if her heart were really in it. You know what I mean? I don’t think she really has blind allegiance to the agency (obviously) and didn’t really like the order she was given—plus she was actually falling for the guy. What do you think?

Plus…for all of our supposed difference, I think we came away with much the same thoughts here!! These were great episodes, but they could have been tighter—I don’t know how the binge-watchers will take to them in future. Frankly, though, I’m sure it’ll be fine. Frank-ly, heh. Get it? Frank? Sigh. I’ll go rest now.

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Oh! That is indeed possible. Good thinking. Maybe they'll tell us down the line.

And I dunno, for all my kvetching I want *more* parents arc, a lot more. But also yes, I did want it to be more cohesive with the teens arc.

Suggestion: Join us over at My Dearest. You can make all the Frank-ly (My Dear-est) jokes you want. 😀

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how do u kill folks with regenerative power.. it is funny

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I took it as her heart wasn't really in it, she really did seem relived when he told her that he knew what was happening.

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Right? 😂 I assumed Doo-shik knew what she was up to the second time he saw her with that identical, easily recognizable stack. He must be familiar with the old spy saying: once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy action. I wondered if she was doing it deliberately to give him a hint what was going on, but their later dialogue didn't support that. Maybe she's the one who is clueless about attraction and dating.

I rewatched episodes 1-3 after seeing these and in hindsight the show does give a lot of time, possibly too much, to the prolonged scenes of Frank doing his job. It does give him (and us) plenty of time to reassess his targets and reconsider why he's following those orders, though.

On the other hand, although the banquet scene and its flashback were long and hard to watch, they showed both the unforgiving and brutal nature of the black ops world and the way events once set in motion are hard to stop. The double agents and their families were all doomed from the start of the operation - they were probably starting to wake up naturally from the drugging, and once they moved they'd be killed both because that would mark them as supposed double agents and because no one could be allowed to survive to describe what happened. I don't think the show explained why China would tolerate such an operation, though - unless the SK agents running it were pretending to be from NK? I couldn't quite follow it all.

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Yup. That was a rather operatic method to sus out traitors. But I suppose even tho the whats/whys/whos were a bit confusing, it was quite dramatic to look at.

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this drama is so awesome.. we need JIS in drama more often

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can't make head or tail of the banquet mission or Frank's killing

Frank has been ordered by CIA. This we know for sure. SK agency is not aware and did not have a hand in killing older agents is also clear given how they were trying ot find Frank and asked CIA to stop the killing.

Why does CIA want to kill older agents. Only reason can be that this group of ex-agents are similar people, believe in similar things, were connected by some operation. These guys are the nice guys. And, CIA is after dooshik, guessing while everyone thinks he is dead but body wasn't found so reasonable doubt remains.
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So, dooshik is the genius spy and all govts. want him..

What role do kids have in all of this?
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What was that banquet mission about.. when it was entirely being run by SK

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Someone else might have a better understanding but from what I can tell, the CIA collaborated with SK on a lot of covert missions using those retired agents in the past. Perhaps due to fear of things they did in the past coming to light in the present of future, they are getting rid of the human evidence/witnesses. I suppose the idea is that whilst it’s easy to burn and delete files (not really, though, is it?), human witnesses are a liability? It doesn’t fully make sense because, presumably, SK probably has records of what was done too, but they’re probably banking on the SK government being just as invested in keeping certain activities under wraps.

I did not understand the rationale behind the banquet mission either. Why didn’t they just cause some massive ‘accident’/incident that killed all of them to begin with, rather than leaving themselves all this work of having to kill each person, one by one? There was so much room for error, and it demanded a level of amorality from the agents that seemed unnecessary and unjustified.

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I don't think the CIA are the good guys here...Like Five-o'Clock-Shadow dude who insisted on Korean standards of politeness when sitting at "court." Blech. You know the guy I mean? Jack or Chet or Trey...whatever his name was? The "embassy" guy who was really CIA.

I also don't like what the CIA did to Frank (or ABCDE...GandH), or the Iowa cornfields.

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Oh I agree! Covering tracks by killing retired agents is definitely not justifiable in any way! (I hope I didn’t make it sound like I thought it was OK!) That was just my guess as to the reasoning behind Frank’s missions. Both governments are behaving pretty awfully!

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I think I just loved these episodes too much to form coherent thoughts about them. I love the context Kim Doo-shik provides for the Mi-hyun and Bong-seok we meet in 2018. I can't wait to see more. And, obviously, dreading learning why he's no longer in their lives.

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I keep forgetting that the "present" is 2018. I hope this means the timeline will move forward and we'll get to see the teens coming into their own as young adults, as well as the return of Doo-shik.

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OMG squee. I hope you are channeling the writers, @elinor. I'd be SO psyched for that.

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There are trailers depicting scenes we haven’t seen yet - but for now, I’m waiting to see at least the trailer of Ep 10-11.

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It's out in Korean at least: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlTJOBAXdTk

Hopefully someone will have link to eng subs.

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Two outstanding episodes.

Mi-hyun + Doo-sik. Beautiful couple.

Nice scene when Ju-won discovers he doesn't have seniority over Mi-hyun even though he is older.

Loved it when Ju-won took offense when Mi-hyun called him boy and hun to him calling her girl and hun (according to English subtitles).

Series is very good.

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Well I liked ep 1_7 especially bongseok and heesoo friendship really touched my heart, but it was a little boring for me I think they could do it in 4 eps and we wouldn't miss many things
(Rec:you should just delete this Frank butchery & electro man nonsense writer_nim! 🙄) I was 🤏 close to drop this show before ep 7 but I continued because of great reviews from beanies and the promise of a very good ep 8&9 and yes.... it was brilliant! Thank you kdramaworld I didn't know I need a HHJ_JIS couple so bad! Huhuhu 🫠

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