Open Thread #834
by DB Staff
Happy Friday everyone!
Here is your Open Thread, which is here for you to chat about anything you want, whether it be drama-related or not. Nothing’s off-topic here! Spoilers may be rife, so proceed accordingly.
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1 cat-cric-kat
October 13, 2023 at 5:17 AM
Weather - not hot - still high not as should be for autumn
Rain - clouds in moods - more like typhoon n storms affect.
Nights - cool - cold mornings - short day time - yes - AUTUMN
Hot October going for 1st place and joining other months - Every month is making there own highs. woah - UN n agencies this n that reports and analysis - cares no one - everyone enjoying popcorn - Enjoy now but you get what you deserve too - then don't come crying out loud.
New york got good example of weather last week - Not only new york many other places too.
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cat-cric-kat
October 13, 2023 at 5:30 AM
Everyone has a specific culture - not need to be of a soceity. Internet culture too - I am from the blogging side as well as forums - the old php boards and even vbulletin boards - not those anonymous boards.
So conversation - debate - long posts - long writeups - histrionics and lot more styles - much intentional
I had like more than 15 blogs on various blogging platforms. Then you use to follow others blogs and all the social interaction of virtual world used to place like that.
No idiotic - smileys, emojis, memes - no videos no pictures - only conversation - from analysis to predictions - Such a good time. This is why i prefer this place.
This place is on Wordpress - and slow because of database and that database became loaded because of all those written episodes of drama with each taking more than 5000 words. There exist much simple and light open source programs that can really ease of the server pressure.
I don't think this place has much usage of wordpress at all.
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cat-cric-kat
October 13, 2023 at 5:44 AM
Politics time - money time - lollipop time - Each and every politician trying to attract you with what they will provide you in future - at almost no cost - at the expense of tax money - which they will never do - except to their crony capitalists friends who actually have funded their campaigns.
So what you have to think - MONEY - u r 4 ur ownself - if money in bank u can easily fly in the air - as simple as that.
Old thugs who wear shiny suits, makeup face and rotten hearts r ready to fool u while making their own life good.
Ur decision - ur actions - don't cry later - as simple as that.
I said it before, elections go calm - u need action when it turns into a personality based contest - party based elections usually demand peaceful atmosphere while as much -ve ity can be in air.
The one who goes with -ve campaign mostly losses but eh one with+ve campaign can damage the whole economy too with all the lofty talks of giving this n that.
What u want - new faces - new views , new parties - only that can bring some changes in the system which needs complete makeover. Reforms aren't easy as bureaucracy is as powerful as it can be in the face of any enemy.
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2 welh
October 13, 2023 at 5:19 AM
Many stories and insights from my trip to Seoul. I will share a k-drama type moment. During this year's Chuseok holiday, 80 percent of Koreans traveled to somewhere. But apparently, the remaining 20 percent were in line in front of me at the Namsan Tower cable car (in reality about 600 people.) After 40 minutes of waiting in line, ahead of me there was a commotion. A husband was holding the hand of his 3 year old daughter when an explosive argument erupted with his wife. She was screaming "What made you think I'd like this?" in reference to standing in line to go to the tower. He yelled back at her that she had said she would like it. They went back and forth to the discomfort of the people around them. She did not back down and literally got in his face. Then quickly, he took his daughter by the hand and they left the line. Granted, it was an awkward moment but there were mostly families waiting in line to go up the mountainside for the view, fresh air and some cultural events in the tower plaza. But the situation really did check off the weekender's argument trope.
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Koalatown
October 13, 2023 at 8:57 AM
OMG. Were we in Seoul at the same time? I was also there during Chuseok and stood in the super long line for the Namsan Tower cable car. We went near sunset but it was still rather warm waiting outside and I can see how tempers could flare. I was surprised at how reasonable the price was for the yummy Donkatsu I ate at the top (lucky to get in before it closed shortly after). I also did the obligatory restroom break at the top- awkward with the mirror right in front of you as well as the window wall. ;)
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welh
October 13, 2023 at 9:22 AM
I went mid-morning and the crowd behind me grew to to the point of it ending in the neighborhood below.
This time I did not go up the tower. Instead, the next day I went to observation deck of Lotte World Tower, the tallest building in Seoul.
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Diana Hansen
October 13, 2023 at 12:47 PM
How fun! I've been to both! Wishing for one more trip to Korea someday.
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DancingEmma
October 14, 2023 at 12:55 AM
Were they arguing in Korean?
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welh
October 14, 2023 at 5:10 AM
Yes.
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
October 14, 2023 at 11:29 PM
How exciting. 😀
How Moving was the taste of Donkatsu ... we're all eager to know - also did you order the secret menu King size platter, heh.
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🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
October 14, 2023 at 11:27 PM
You can take a girl out of K-dramas but you can't take K-dramas out of a girl!
Glad you are living it up!! Hope you make many many happy memories, eat delicious food, go to good places and just have tons of Fun.
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3 Kurama
October 13, 2023 at 5:54 AM
From a certain time now, this site had some changes and overall a lot of bugs :
- At least, once by day, it crashes.
- Notifications : before if I clicked on one, the other ones were still visible, now the whole list disapears. I miss some replies because I didn't see it.
- If I click on "view on context", it opens the article page but not where is the comment... If there are a lot of comments, it means to read a lot of them to find the one.
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Britney
October 13, 2023 at 5:59 AM
I experienced this too! The comment thing being the most recent. I thought I must have done something because it had started after I restarted my phone haha
I wonder why this is happening.
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Seon-ha
October 13, 2023 at 6:42 AM
It's not you. They're on it.
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Unaspirated
October 13, 2023 at 6:08 AM
Yes, I understand the switch to fewer comments on a page, but when you click the notifications, it doesn't (yet, I'm hoping) take you to the actual comment or reply in question. I'm sure they're still trying to iron it out, but I hope it's soon!
The notifications disappearing started for me months ago, and I really prefer it the other way, but I wasn't sure if it was a deliberate decision or not.
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Kurama
October 13, 2023 at 6:17 AM
Yeah, it happened months ago, but as long as I'm whining, I might as well do it until the end :p
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Seon-ha
October 13, 2023 at 6:40 AM
Everyone, there was a conversation that Miss Victrix joined on my Fan Wall a few days back that offers information on this issue: https://www.dramabeans.com/activity/p/1467245/
Tl;dr: There are known issues that are being resolved.
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ScreenName
October 13, 2023 at 11:43 AM
I’ve had issues with this site since day one and I always hear “they’re working on it”. The site has gotten extremely popular and to keep it up and running ad space must be sold. I’m not sure, but that seems to be part of the problem. You wait for not only the page to load but all the accompanying ads as well. Many times the site will not load at all, comments are lost after you spend time entering them, and we also might miss out on some beanies comments because they’ve restricted the number of comments per page.
I don’t know what the answer is, but I’ve considered giving up posting because of these issues. (Having the site glitch and eat my comments is especially depressing.)
The good news is it’s a great site with excellent recappers, articles, etc. How to resolve the issues of what appears to be a result of increased popularity and traffic which should be a good thing? You got me.
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
October 14, 2023 at 2:49 AM
I hope you don’t give up posting as it’s always good to read comments from a variety of beanies.
I am a newbie so don’t have hands on experience of the golden era but my understanding is there was way more activity back then and this is evidenced by the 1000’s of comments on the last episode of Healer or the number of likes for certain Beanies comments. Also we can see how active the veteran beanies were by their exceptionally high numbers of both comments and likes. I think unless we all use the email hello@dramabeans.com to alert them to the problems they can’t assess how much of an issue each problem is. Currently most people say nothing or complain on the site where the tech crew are unlikely to see it.
There are different issues effecting the site so we all get impacted by one of them at some point and therefore we have learnt a number of strategies to limit our frustration levels. Such as composing offline to avoid losing our comments. Being aware of high traffic days due to the posts dropping that day such as What we’re watching and popular dramas recaps and posting early then walking away.
What fascinates me is whenever I have had issues getting onto the site when I finally get on I always find beanies have been commenting away during what I assumed was down time for everyone.
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ScreenName
October 14, 2023 at 5:10 AM
Thanks for the encouragement to kee going. I came very close to giving up on this site when my comments got eaten 3x on 2 separate days when the system glitched. I didn’t know there was an actual email to contact the site. Thanks for alerting me to it. Is that listed somewhere and I missed it?
I do try to read every comment before I post because I enjoy others perspectives, but it’s frustrating as heck to lose your thoughts after you’ve taken the time to post them. I don’t even add gifs or anything else to my fan wall because I was actually worried I’d be adding to overloading the site as a whole. How crazy is that?
I think the site is probably very well aware of the issues. I’m hoping there’s a resolution that works. We newbies want to contribute too, right?
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tabong
October 13, 2023 at 12:06 PM
If there are a lot of comments, I decided to give up. 🤣
I almost died trying to reply to comments in the last OT (or maybe two weeks ago). The conversations were super long so we had to reply in new comments or earlier ones. That made the search IMPOSSIBLE. Because the sequence didn't make sense and the notification wouldn't take me to the right comment.
And I made the OG comment so that made everything more complicated, with the repeated notifications.
Crazy stuff.
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Diana Hansen
October 13, 2023 at 12:48 PM
Man, I am having the same issues and its not fun. I wish they could fix the comment thing to back the way it was.
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Babylilo
October 13, 2023 at 2:16 PM
The banner image on my fan wall disappeared, but I ended up finding one I liked better to replace it. Let’s hope it stays up this time.
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4 Britney
October 13, 2023 at 5:56 AM
Every now and then I see lists and posts about how people wish/want old school Korean variety shows to return (Strong Heart, X Man, Golden Bell, etc) and I keep thinking there really isn't a way for the shows to come back (except maybe on streamers) because the world is just different compared to the past. The humor is different, the threshold for comedic physicality is different, and geez the headache inducing fan culture. Heaven forbid idols of different genders interact or allude to being actual people with flaws or thoughts or experiences. (Then again they keep debuting & recruiting idols younger and younger so what experiences can they have at 11 & 12?)
Then Strong Heart did return but they tried modernizing it by having it more as a group discussion with teams which people didn't like (they said it was too many hosts). The show also didn't have A listers like the past.
Overall, there seems to be a shift towards more of a talk show format and not physical games.
Personally, I would like a show like X Man to make a return; a show where the mischievous backstabbers or schemers of variety shows all have to work together and compete against each other. But then image comes into play again haha. I don't think people are allowed to play villainous characters without people not being able to separate character & person.
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Diana Hansen
October 13, 2023 at 12:52 PM
I agree. I miss the old shows and X man was a favorite. I learned about many celebrities from that show and they used to have the popular groups take turns being on it. Those were the days!
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Lady Bluestocking
October 13, 2023 at 12:52 PM
I get missing the older variety shows. I'm still a loyal watcher of Running Man, but I admit I'm often tuned out on my phone because they're just eating (and eating, and eating...) I know they're getting older and some of the harder games were very physical and resulted in back injuries and such, but surely there's a middle ground.
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Britney
October 13, 2023 at 2:18 PM
Haha during their most recent anniversary episode where there was a Q&A, there was mention of them not doing Name Tag Elimination or other physical games (or something like that; I don't know cause I didn't the whole thing, just the clip and it was a long time ago) and Jae Seok said it wasn't that they aged (even though the games *could* get physical and lead to certain feelings) but that it's just hard to be creative with it. It's only so many games people can come up with involving ripping off name tags.
Haha but they do seem to have lots of eating or camping or hanging out type of situations haha
I miss when they did the water games like being thrown from the chair. It's scary and I wouldn't want to do it but it was entertaining to watch.
On Jae Seok's show PlayYou, which is basically a one man show, he did a lot of running around and I was surprised by how fast he was. I think he did some timed challenges.
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Lady Bluestocking
October 13, 2023 at 6:03 PM
Yeah the water games were always great. I loved their horror specials, when they sent them into spooky buildings or had them search for zombies.
I don't think viewers got tired of name-tag ripping. Guests who come on visibly light up whenever they get to play anything that has to do with name tags. I believe Jae Seok believes it, but I would argue with him that watching them cook their Nth version of ramen outside in a pot and then arguing over who does dishes isn't MORE creative than name tag ripping, but it IS a lot less interesting lol.
Is PlayYou any good? I've seen some of Jae Seok's other limited variety shows, like "The Zone" and "Busted" (both of which Gwang Soo was on! WTH Gwang Soo?!) and they were fun. You'd think he could bring some of those ideas to Running Man to freshen things up, lol.
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Britney
October 14, 2023 at 3:50 AM
I liked PlayYou. I was surprised by how many commenters were always telling him to stop talking as if A- talking ISN'T his thing B- he wasn't hosting a one man show meaning he has to talk and engage.
I liked The Zone: Survival Mission & Busted.
One of the funniest episodes of The Zone was when they had to stay on a bed for 4 hours.
mmsik16
October 14, 2023 at 12:12 PM
Can’t remember which episode it was but they mentioned how people always ask for the name tag game but when they do an episode with that game, those somehow end up getting low ratings. Don’t know if anyone has checked that claim.
The water games are good, those are usually funny. I also enjoy their English-only guessing games but that would probably get boring over time.
Britney
October 16, 2023 at 4:55 AM
The "they're just eating (and eating, and eating...) has stayed in my head since I saw this and makes me randomly chuckle haha
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5 Hanamana
October 13, 2023 at 7:10 AM
I don't know about the other beanies ,but the change in the number of comments in a page is bothering me. In this state I'm not inclined to read other pages.
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pohonphee
October 13, 2023 at 7:23 AM
I'm with you about this. The comments are what makes DB interesting but they make reading the comments uncomfortable :/
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Seon-ha
October 13, 2023 at 9:42 AM
Everyone, there was a conversation that Miss Victrix joined on my Fan Wall a few days back that offers information on this issue: https://www.dramabeans.com/activity/p/1467245/
Tl;dr: There are known issues that are being resolved.
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Diana Hansen
October 13, 2023 at 12:55 PM
Thanks for the link and info!
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Diana Hansen
October 13, 2023 at 12:50 PM
and time consuming.
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
October 13, 2023 at 7:26 AM
I have always checked for pages and gone in purposefully so the beanies in different time zones who comment later are not left with no responses. When the site is working well this is not a hassle, however when there are problems with slowness this tends to be something I put off until it is working properly again.
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pohonphee
October 13, 2023 at 9:08 AM
I prefer scrolling than clicking more pages to read the comments, adds to that the page loads slower right now. And it makes the comment thread get lost.
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Britney
October 13, 2023 at 8:23 AM
Again I thought I was just unobservant haha
I thought there was something weird about the comments.
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panshel
October 13, 2023 at 8:39 AM
I wonder how they decided on 10 comments per page. I get that 50 is too much, but 10 is too less.
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Britney
October 13, 2023 at 10:47 AM
I didn't think it was too much but the 10 is definitely too little. I think later posters may get lost in the shuffle cause they don't want to go to the different pages.
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Gikata
October 14, 2023 at 4:16 AM
I am in no way a math person, but there is an obvious middle ground here that I think would've worked better.
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welh
October 13, 2023 at 8:44 AM
I think the change was made so the page can load faster.
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tabong
October 13, 2023 at 12:16 PM
Same. Especially when just one page takes ages to load.
And also your comment goes to page 4 but it takes you back to page 1.
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bbstl 🧹
October 13, 2023 at 1:24 PM
Really don’t like that here in WWW, the latest conversations currently are on pg 2 but after replying I’m flipped back to 1, have to scroll down and choose 2 in order to continue reading. It’s turning into yet another slowdown made in the interests of speeding up. It’s a pickle.
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bbstl 🧹
October 13, 2023 at 1:41 PM
Ugh, I meant here on OT
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tabong
October 14, 2023 at 1:35 AM
Maybe you're really excited about this week's WWW? 😉
bbstl 🧹
October 14, 2023 at 8:38 AM
@enriquequierecagar you’re very kind! More like I don’t know what day it is! 🤦🏼♀️
tabong
October 14, 2023 at 12:42 PM
Hahaha. Happens.
tabong
October 14, 2023 at 1:34 AM
Hahaha. That just happened to me right now. I sent the comment (page 2) and it took me back here, and I had to scroll down again and click page 2 again, to reply to another comment.
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Britney
October 15, 2023 at 11:41 AM
I have been trying to just get over this but it's SOOOOO inconvieient and discouraging. Not only the limited comments but the notifications not sending you to the comments in question.
I'm almost tempted to say the crashes were better than this
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6 DK-Drama 🫘🏆Image of drama FL Character Deterioration🚺🍉🌱
October 13, 2023 at 7:26 AM
Doom, and then a Happy End 4
I was astonished, as were many, at the end of "Doom; at your service".
I think though that we do get a happy end, just not the one we counted on.
I argue the fact in a lengthy gifsay here. If you't like to revisit
that kiss and also see my arguments for a happy end, please be seated:
https://www.dramabeans.com/members/CecilieDK/activity/1468871/
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MikeyD signed up
October 13, 2023 at 5:22 PM
Doom got a bum rap in the comments when it aired. If a drama doesn't fit your preconceived notions that's not the fault of the drama but a fault of your own. People knew from the previews it was about a dying girl's relation to the personification of doom. That doesn't sound like a happy-go-luck rom-com premise.
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DK-Drama 🫘🏆Image of drama FL Character Deterioration🚺🍉🌱
October 13, 2023 at 6:34 PM
That was not the problem. It was like most K-drama rom coms: Full of meticulously designed pain.
The problem was that when in the end they were allowed to be together, she was all "meh". (It was also that the drama was a bit boring for some episodes towards the end.)
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🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
October 14, 2023 at 11:40 PM
"Full of meticulously designed pain."
I do love your phrasing Cecilie, you really have a way with words. 👏
Hmm, so true once the otp is on board it is as if all the the spark in the relationship fizzles out ... same with Destined With You and many more.
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7 DK-Drama 🫘🏆Image of drama FL Character Deterioration🚺🍉🌱
October 13, 2023 at 8:09 AM
Also, I made a post about Coffe Prince. This time were everybody kept their clothes on. Contains a lot of spoilers, just saying.
https://www.dramabeans.com/members/CecilieDK/activity/1466946/
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8 🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
October 13, 2023 at 9:26 AM
📯 🥁 🎺
📢 Call to Arms for ALL Beanies !!!
Come One Come All
For It's Time To Answer The Beanie Call
Our Dear Beanie @welh640 was in Seoul recently and happened to walk into and STAR IN A K-DRAMA!!!
🌟 ⭐ 🌟
The shooting was being held at this location 👇
https://www.dramabeans.com/members/welh640/activity/1467238/
This is a request to all Beanies to please help in identifying the Drama.
Dear Beanies please put on you detective hats. 🕵♀️🕵
HWAITING!!
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Ahjummaaa
October 13, 2023 at 9:36 AM
omo omo dream come true!
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Koalatown
October 13, 2023 at 4:37 PM
Wow... how cool! Jelly.
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
October 13, 2023 at 10:36 AM
Well done for sending out the Beanie signal🕵️♂️ We probably need to have some local Beanies on the case where they have access to the word on the street updates about dramas currently filming.
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Diana Hansen
October 13, 2023 at 12:57 PM
Good idea!
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bbstl 🧹
October 13, 2023 at 1:12 PM
@welh640 could try koreandramaland.com but I’d guess they don’t post locations until a show broadcasts?
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jillian
October 13, 2023 at 1:56 PM
It could be anumber of dramas or varieties currently in production. Identifying the actors would help know which one it could be.
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welh
October 15, 2023 at 4:58 AM
I am putting up a photo and more information on my fan wall.
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9 Ahjummaaa
October 13, 2023 at 9:32 AM
The fall weather always gets me itching to travel. This time, I really want to go to South Korea. Now that I can read Korean characters (slowly), I feel more confidant about going. I wish there was a drama + food tour that takes you to a prison where you eat a bowl of beef bone soup with radish kimchi on the side in the interrogation room with a hot detective by your side, and jajangmyun in the cell with cops busy at their desks, and when you finally get freed by your handsome lawyer, who greets you with a steaming slab of fresh made tofu at the entrance. Of all the tropes, I don't know why the prison food trope interests me the most lol.
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DancingEmma
October 14, 2023 at 1:03 AM
Yikes. Prisons are not happy places in RL - I’ve been to a number of them for work - they are volatile, disturbing and highly surveilled places which sent chills down my spine every time.
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10 hacja
October 13, 2023 at 9:43 AM
Recently I tallied up the number of kdramas this year that I've watched that contain some sort of supernatural element--superpowers, time travel, curses, reincarnation, unearthly beings, etc. etc. and I came up with roughly 20, of 30 total dramas. Besides showing what a pathetically limited life I lead, that I've spent well over 500 hours watching Korean t.v. this year, and that's not counting hours spent watching sports and Australian lesbian serial killer comedies, I was wondering about those 20 fantasies I've watched.
I've been watching them because they are often advertised as fantasy ROMANCES, and one thing that's true, is that this year the fantasy Romance has almost totally replaced the gritty real life romances I usually go for, like King the Land. But I also wonder if there haven't been more fantasy romances this year than usual, and whether that's just a cyclical thing, or whether it indicates some sort of kdrama trend.
I've also noticed that a lot of them are based on webtoons, and while I know that webtoons have always been a fruitful source of kdramas, has that become an even more common inspiration for kdramas, as writers desperately scramble for new material?
I was thinking that maybe the use of webtoons and fantasy plot devices was because they easily translate into international contexts, as opposed to more real life shows that deal humorously or seriously with Korean social problems, and so wouldn't be as appealing as superpowers, curses, ghosts, vampires, time travel, etc that are fantasies in every culture. But it could be that fantasy has always been central to kdramas, and I'm just noticing it more.
Is there anyone who has thoughts on why, (or if) supernatural fantasy has been so common this year?
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bbstl 🧹
October 13, 2023 at 10:14 AM
This. I am really missing “real-life” settings like Marriage, Not Dating, Hospital Playlist or Secretary Kim, etc. It feels like every new show this year has time travel and reincarnation and/or the features you mentioned. My friend suggests that it’s because kdrama is notorious for seeing one success and then piling on with copies (like the years that feel like every show is lawyers and so on). I have been wondering what is so wrong in SK life that everyone needs to be entertained w fantasy components. (My viewing is limited to would-be romances as well, so I’m not counting the realistic crime shows). (And yes, I know many answers to what is so wrong in SK life.)
So, phhhttttt, I’m with you on this! Please bring back more reality!
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owl 🦉 🫰
October 13, 2023 at 10:19 AM
Maybe everything these days has to be bigger than life? But my fav K-dramas are slice if lufe for sure. Reply series, Let's Eat series, MLN, Our Blues, etc. Rewatches are frequent for me!
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mindy
October 13, 2023 at 10:35 AM
Wait, does something have to be wrong in your life to be watching fantasy? 😰 I don’t watch a plethora of fantasy dramas but 90% of what I read is fantasy and frankly I don’t find that any stranger than those who read mystery novels or romance novels. It’s just a genre of fiction, nothing more or less.
I’ll be honest, I don’t see a show like Business Proposal as being any more realistic than something that involves magic or the supernatural.
It’s a trend. I think that’s as deep as it gets.
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hacja
October 13, 2023 at 12:15 PM
@mindy There are many who prefer fantasy--I wasn't saying there was anything wrong with that!
The only thing I was noting is that it seemed there were a greater number of fantasies out there this year. I could be wrong about that, but if it is a trend, it does seem to me to need some explanation--either about the writers who find it the best way to get the story across, or, as I was thinking might be the case, executives who are looking for the biggest international audience possible and find supernatural stories have a global appeal. But I'm not sure what the explanation is.
And of course, every show is a fantasy of some sort of another. You are right, the story of someone turning into a dog is just as realistic as imagining lovers fated to be tragically torn apart in the Joseon era. You have to admit, though, the plot devices used to propel the story are a little different, and that's why I think its useful to distinguish magic and supernatural from a story that uses events that might have conceivably occurred or have a chance of occurring.
So the point is not about realism (that's why I joked, in a way that obviously failed) about the "realism" of King the Land. Instead its whether you tell a story of a chaebol hotel executive falling in love with a concierge, or whether you imagine the concierge grabbing client butts to find out what has happened in their lives.
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bbstl 🧹
October 13, 2023 at 1:00 PM
I got the KTL joke and laughed!
owl 🦉 🫰
October 13, 2023 at 10:15 AM
Interesting post, hacja, fellow "spends many hours watching K-dramas" chingu. An early K-drama I watched was 49 Tears, which had a new-to-me cultural afterlife element that the drama played on. It was fascinating. So while I would say I am not a fantasy genre reader, I do like (and have watched) many fantasy/supernatural K-dramas. This surprises friends and family all the time, but somehow I am drawn in. The only element that is not my style is zombies. 🦉 anyhoot!
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Ahjummaaa
October 13, 2023 at 12:50 PM
49 Days made a deep impression on me, too. It's on my list of favorite dramas. Maybe one of these days I'll go back to rewatch again.
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Ahjummaaa
October 13, 2023 at 12:52 PM
Of course, not all fantasy genre dramas touch my heart. 49 Days has something that draws your attention, it has emotional truth and pulls you in.
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Ahjummaaa
October 13, 2023 at 12:55 PM
I've watched almost all zombie dramas by now, and the only one I really liked and recommend is Dark Hole. Why I recommend this one is because it had emotional truth and a good ending. Train to Busan had a tragic ending, leaves you feeling sad and empty. Like most zombie dramas. But Dark Hole was different, so it's the only zombie drama I would want to watch again.
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Seon-ha
October 13, 2023 at 1:26 PM
Does it really!? Aw man. I wasn't going to see Train to Busan but now I really won't.
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Ahjummaaa
October 13, 2023 at 3:55 PM
aww sorry I should have put a spoiler warning. but it's still a very well made action movie, very thrilling! and gong yoo!! I don't regret watching it~~~
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
October 15, 2023 at 12:05 AM
49 Days was amazing. I never expected to get so invested - the drama just pulled me in.
Zombies are not my style either, till Kingdom come.
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Tizzy
October 13, 2023 at 10:17 AM
I, for one, prefer real life romances. I think the reason why many of these dramas do not get the ratings they deserve is because some people avoid such dramas. Don't judge me, but because of what I believe in, I am uncomfortable with watching a drama with a lead having a relationship with another lead who's reincarnated, a god, demon, etc. There may be a lot like me.
I miss the rom-coms of the old days. That's why I truly enjoyed dramas like King the Land, Buisiness Proposal, CLOY, 25/21. I don't mind the tropes.
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Kathryn51
October 13, 2023 at 8:35 PM
CLOY was a rom-com?? I have avoided it because of what I believed to be some very dark moments.
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Tizzy
October 13, 2023 at 9:54 PM
@kathryn51Oh CLOY is definitely a rom com with suspense!!! So many funny and romantic moments!!! It's prob my top rom com and I've watched more than a hundred dramas, a vast majority are rom coms or romance.
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Elinor, Thug Noonim
October 14, 2023 at 12:21 PM
CLOY is a romance with lots of comedy and tons of suspenseful moments that add up to nearly constant tension. That's not the same thing as a rom-com.
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Kathryn51
October 14, 2023 at 4:03 PM
Thanks @elinor. I remember looking into the drama and also thinking this wasn't a "comedy".
Britney
October 13, 2023 at 10:42 AM
I like fantasy & supernatural elements but I don't think I've watched that many this year (or maybe I just don't remember haha)
The only thing coming to mind is Heartbeat & Behind Your Touch
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Kurama
October 13, 2023 at 11:45 AM
I think Kdramas work by cycle... this year the main theme was fantasy. But sometimes, it's lawyer, doctor, sageuk,...
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tabong
October 13, 2023 at 12:33 PM
I just hope 2024 trend is all romcoms and slice of life.
I wouldn't mind having a year full of shows like SWLouie, Still 17, Fight For My Way, MLNotes, Be Melo, and Gaus Electronics. 🤭
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owl 🦉 🫰
October 13, 2023 at 2:01 PM
I agree!
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Kathryn51
October 13, 2023 at 8:41 PM
I don't mind fantasy. Alchemy of Souls was thrilling with a completely new "world" and "magic rules" - until, that is, they changed the rules and forgot the history of that new world.
And that's the difference in my mind between a really outstanding fantasy romance drama and a mediocre one that relies too much on the CGI/top star billing/whatever.
I just finished The Master's Sun (thanks to the Beannie who mentioned it) and although it wasn't perfect (too many "break-ups"), the story held together to the end, the "ghost rules" did not change or evolve, and the fantasy elements remained consistent. Plus, side stories of various ghosts, side characters with their own stories - it all came together in the end.
Color me shocked when I discovered the Hong Sisters wrote it.
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🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
October 15, 2023 at 12:09 AM
The retconning of fantasy rules are the one major put-off. Don't just keep pulling out new rules every two seconds - looking at you Catman from Heart ♥ Beat.
Most useless supernatural being ever.
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🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
October 15, 2023 at 12:12 AM
Oh! Now that you mentioned it Hong Sisters have come a long way since The Master's Sun but no one can beat So Ji-sub's Joo Jоong-won and his immortal "kkeojyeo" with hand gesture for emphasis!
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Kathryn51
October 15, 2023 at 1:04 PM
@Seeker Perhaps you were the one who suggested The Master's Sun. And to add to my point above, I never cared too much for either main lead or their romance; in fact, as is frequently my problem, i was more interested in the second couple. But regardless of the main leads, I watched to the end because the main STORY - the and side stories (ghosts) - kept me interested.
And when I mentioned Hong Sisters, it was in regard to Alchemy of Souls - a total clusterf**k of new magic rules, forgotten character development. . . I doubt if I will ever watch another one of their dramas again while it airs.
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🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
October 16, 2023 at 10:12 AM
Oh I agree, got little sidetracked by So Ji-sub. 😀
I meant Hong Sisters have come a long way since then and have forgotten that the drama needs to comply with the set rules and work within that framework. One cannot just nilly willy change the fantasy rules or get writers amnesia about it.
11 Britney
October 13, 2023 at 10:35 AM
I showed a group picture of myself at the Lee Seung Gi concert I went to and my sister laughed at me being the youngest person in the group. (I was also the only black person)
This is a small thing but it's just an example of how I can't share my interest with people in my life. They don't care or they laugh or they mock. That's why I haven't even talked about it with people aside from people in the group or vaguely here. I don't even attempt to talk about the fact I watch kdramas.
I just mention scenarios or situations I've seen on variety shows (mainly Running Man) and the first question is "do you speak korean?"
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
October 13, 2023 at 10:58 AM
Going to a concert with a group of friends sounds amazing. It is hard to get a group together to talk to in real life like us beanies but hopefully you are able to find some k drama friends online who are local enough or have a similar time zone so you can chat to them offsite. We did that with the K drama watch and discuss club.
I find it fascinating how many African countries have had K drama as part of their entertainment offer for years. Whereas in the UK it was a relatively recent find for me. I have met quite a few K drama fans amongst my contacts just by chance because I am always discussing what I am watching so don’t give up there are plenty of us Black fans out there.
One of the therapists I follow online organised a K drama filming sites tour in September and October and if I wasn’t already booked to be on a trip later this year I would have gone on that trip as another way to link with fellow K drama fans.
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Ahjummaaa
October 13, 2023 at 12:59 PM
I follow a very entertaining African Korean drama fan account on IG and enjoy reading the comments so much. It's actually my favorite fan forum next to Dramabeans. Everyone is so enthusiastic and funny.
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🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
October 15, 2023 at 2:27 AM
How very wonderful. I have seen clips on social media from time to time.
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🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
October 15, 2023 at 2:25 AM
This is so very interesting!
K drama filming sites tour is such a good idea. I know most Game of Thrones locations were overrun by hordes of tourists. 😃
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hacja
October 13, 2023 at 12:38 PM
One of the things I'm most impressed by with K-dramas is the diversity of the audience they attract. In fact much of the time (maybe even most of the time?) I'm more impressed by the commentators on Dramabeans than I am by the kdramas!
As for being unable to share your interests with friends and family, that is very common, I can tell you, no matter what age you are.
Even my children laugh at me and I don't even bother to mention what I'm watching to my friends, (outside of my good friends I've met through kdramas.)
One strategy you might try is one that I use when I'm getting ridiculed by acquaintances who do find out. I tell the people who are laughing that I watch kdramas and listen to kpop because I'm studying global trends in popular media, and also because of my deep, intellectual interest in Korean history and culture. And that's why I have to sing along with New Jeans while I am watching Strong Girl Nam Soon. (No, don't add that part).
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🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
October 15, 2023 at 2:34 AM
As emotions are universal, K-dramas are able to emotionally engage people from all over the world... and as we all are witness, once you get sucked into the K-drama rabbit hole there is no way out!
It is awesome to be able to share our joy with Beanies world-wide.
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tabong
October 13, 2023 at 12:40 PM
I hope you enjoyed the concert, Britney! ^^
And I'm glad you have a group of people you can go with.
When the people around you can't understand you, remember that beanies are here. We'll listen and share the joy with you. Fighting!
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Britney
October 13, 2023 at 3:58 PM
I didn't go to the concert with them; I met them there. I went alone. It was a real experience for me because I'm scared of flying and I flew cross country by myself. Honestly, meeting other fans added to the experience of the concert even more than seeing him cause it's the only time I've ever gotten to talk about him or any Korean stuff in an engaged way. I tried talking about Heartbeat, not much but I was saying it broke my heart but folks were like "NO SPOILERS!" so I just kept the conversation mainly on Seung Gi haha
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
October 13, 2023 at 11:30 PM
That’s impressive that you got friendly with the group at the concert. I have met people at work conferences and maintained contact with them for years afterwards so concerts would be great too.
I wonder if joining a fan club for your favourite actor might lead to a local connection or communication with someone who liked similar genres to you.
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tabong
October 14, 2023 at 1:31 AM
Ohh, I get it.
But I'm glad you met them! Maybe in the future you'll be able to go to more events with some of them and share that love for Seung Gi.
Maybe next time you see them they'll have already watch Heartbeat!
Like uri imma bean said, it's really cool you were able to get friendly with them. That's something I can't do!!
I hope you get to build a nice relationship with them and that it last for a really long time.
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Diana Hansen
October 13, 2023 at 12:45 PM
I hear you. That's why I love Dramabeans so much!
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🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
October 15, 2023 at 2:43 AM
It is indeed so meaningful and one feels so heard to be able to talk in detail about our mutual K-drama love.
One can freely express their thoughts, emotions and feelings about a particular drama or celeb or just chat generally.
Even if someone disagrees with you, the Beanies would simple state their view point and not try to invalidate your views or try to attack you personally.
This is most definitely a remarkable little corner of the internet which we all cherish and want to protect.
😅 that is why I have two tabs open - since after posting a comment I go back to page 1, I close that tab, go to the previously opened tab at pages and click relevant page where I had posted and scroll down!!
I'm doing it and will keep doing it till hopefully our DB pagination is settled.
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bbstl 🧹
October 13, 2023 at 1:10 PM
I was at a family dinner where everyone was discussing what tv shows they were watching and I was silent. My niece turned to me and asked, “so are you watching anything these days … that’s in English?” Everyone laughed. I’ve given up trying to talk to people about it. I’ve decided I can’t help it that they can’t appreciate greatness!😝
So glad you were able to enjoy LSG!
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🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
October 15, 2023 at 2:47 AM
It is a pleasure to be able to enjoy our dramas and chat with Beanies.
I for one would love some IRL friends to bond over this ... but wonderful Beanies from around the world and their perspectives are enough for me and extremely fulfilling too.
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darwi
October 15, 2023 at 11:47 AM
I've had the same experience with family and colleagues. They all mention recent shows I know nothing about.
I'm very lucky to have a kdrama loving friend. Even though we live 400km apart, we watch-and-text.
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bbstl 🧹
October 13, 2023 at 1:52 PM
I’ve been thinking about your frustration, @britney and thought I’d come back to mention something in my town. Two black women started a business, KorKstl.com to promote love of K-pop and kculture and make a community for fans. They now have an actual store selling K-pop mdse in our biggest mall and do special events* and have links to other groups in cities nearby. Maybe where you live has something similar and you can find more friends there!
*their site says they’re planning a Running Man event in our biggest park!
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Britney
October 13, 2023 at 3:59 PM
Oh that's cool!
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bbstl 🧹
October 13, 2023 at 8:11 PM
My heart just swells up with happiness that they succeeded in doing this! It’s so cool!
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Tizzy
October 13, 2023 at 4:59 PM
@britney You should meet these people!!!!!
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CxiwdJFMpxg/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
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Elinor, Thug Noonim
October 14, 2023 at 12:27 PM
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 That's great. Thanks!
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🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
October 15, 2023 at 3:06 AM
Thank you, this is just so awesome, exactly what I was talking about.
If I had some K-drama obsessed friends IRL, I'd be doing exactly this!!
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beffels
October 13, 2023 at 5:13 PM
I feel so lucky to have my sister also interested because everyone else just isn’t 😅. (Although we did make mum watch Vagabond and she’s like “he’s quite handsome isn’t he” without prompting which goes to show we all have the same taste 😂)
I’m off to a super junior D&E fan con this week (In New Zealand!) and I basically haven’t mentioned it to anyone even though I’m super excited 😄
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Diana Hansen
October 14, 2023 at 10:47 AM
Well now you've told us and we are super excited for you! I am for sure! Have loads of fun and smile at them for me too K?
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Healer’s
October 13, 2023 at 8:18 PM
My family and friends know I watch K-dramas and enjoy them but they don't know how deep I'm in. They have no idea I spend days and nights reading Dramabeans and other sites, and sometimes posting too. They sometimes praise me for remembering actors' names, and must think I watch a lot, only I know that the numbers of K-dramas I have watched is nothing compared to other beanies here, because I spend a lot of time rewatching. But when you spend that much time reading about K-dramas, you'll naturally remember actors' names even for those you haven't watched.
When they ask me what my fav shows are, I always say Strangers 1, 2 and that'll put an end to the discussion (as I expected haha) as no one in my family and friend circle has watched that. Their fav are the popular shows like What's wrong with Secretary Kim, CLOY.... I may have watched those shows too but I don't have the need to talk to anyone in real life about K-dramas, except my bestie. I don't live in the same
citycountry as my bestie, but every now and then we text each other about shows we are watching. Our fav genres are different but we are both hard core introverts and share the same perspectives of life, so we understand each other well and share the love for K-dramas. Her lifelong fav actor is Wookie while mine changes every now and then haha.Recently, while browsing instagram, I found an account devoted to my fav actor. Then I realised she's from my home country too, so we started messaging each other and we've been having really good times sharing info and chatting about trivia that we'd have no chance to if we didn't meet the right person. I always find it amazing and wonderful that K-drama lovers speak the same language regardless of where we are from.
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
October 13, 2023 at 11:26 PM
That’s amazing that you got to ‘meet’ a local K drama fan via Instagram.
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DancingEmma
October 14, 2023 at 4:12 AM
A big virtual 🤗hug of solidarity for you.
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🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
October 15, 2023 at 2:19 AM
Oh wow! What a fun chat.
@Britney That is so cool and so very brave of you to go to attend Lee Seung-gi's concert. Hope you had a blast and made lots of friends you can keep in touch with for a long time.
I think most Beanies do not have any person IRL with whom they can connect with about K-dramas. Some lucky Beanies may have a couple of "real" friends but that is few and far between.
Nevertheless as @enriquequierecagar has rightly stated "beanies are here. We'll listen and share the joy with you. Fighting!"
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12 tabong
October 13, 2023 at 11:55 AM
Hi, beanies de mi corazón. 💚
I hope you had a great week!
Next week I'm going to visit my bestie. Her graduation is tomorrow! So we decided to hang out next week to celebrate.
I have to make a 4h trip to get there. Just thinking about it makes me want to cry. LOL
I hate traveling. It's such a traumatic experience for me... I hate having to spend more than 30min in a vehicle just to get somewhere! And thinking about the weather makes everything worse. That city is hell. When you get out of the shower you're wet with sweat. T.T I won't even get started with the transportation...
That's why I told all my friends that if they wanted to see my friends they had to visit me. LOl When my mom moved here 5 years ago, I was annoyed because we don't have family or friends here.
But that motived me to be good to my friends, because I knew that after graduation we wouldn't be able to see each other again that often.
So I'm dead serious when I say they have to visit me if they want to see me again. 😂 This is the last time I'm going, and only because it's her.
Anyway, I can't wait to see my bestie!! We're gonna have so much fun! This is the first time in a while that hanging out doesn't consist of laying in bed and ordering food. We do that a lot. LOL The last time we saw each other she just slept and I read webtoons.
We're way too lazy. 😆
Have a nice weekend, beanies! ✌️ I love how every time I write "weekend", the next word the autocorrect function suggest's "beanies".
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
October 13, 2023 at 12:35 PM
I love that predictive text knows you so well🤣 Have fun and I hope your friends do make the trip to visit you in 2024 so they can enjoy the change of scenery.
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tabong
October 13, 2023 at 12:46 PM
Thank you! 💚
Some friends told me they're going to visit me in January. Let's see if it actually happens. Hahaha.
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13 Antonella73
October 13, 2023 at 12:18 PM
Ciao!
I don't know if this question it's ok for this thread, so, sorry in advance
I liked very much read the various thread here in "DramaBeans' land" but I have a lot of difficulty translating the drama acronims
For example: MLSH:R stand for???
A special thread would be needed to list them all 8-D
happy week end
Antonella
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mindy
October 13, 2023 at 12:27 PM
MLSHR is Moon Lovers Scarlet Heart Ryeo!
It can be hard to keep up with all the acronyms, but I feel like trying to make a list of all of them would be even harder! When it doubt, it doesn't hurt to ask! :) We don't mind!
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Antonella73
October 13, 2023 at 12:51 PM
Thanks so much Mindy.
For me, often, it's doubly difficult because on Netflix and Viki, drama's titles are translated in Italian language so it's no easy to undestand which drama are you talking about 8-P
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bbstl 🧹
October 13, 2023 at 1:20 PM
Wow, that is really difficult, and sometimes they even have two different titles in English! Or Beanies refer to a drama by a self-shortened title, like I just call MLSHR “Scarlet Heart”. I totally have to stop and think what MLSHR could be?
Welcome, and always feel free to ask! In no time you will be acronym-ing with the best of us!
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
October 13, 2023 at 1:32 PM
I prefer the shorted titles in words like your Scarlet Heart over letters every time.
DancingEmma
October 14, 2023 at 1:40 AM
I second what @Mindy and @bbstl said Antonella. Always feel free to ask! Ciao!
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
October 13, 2023 at 12:38 PM
Don’t worry there are loads of us newbie and old Beanies campaigning for that list of dramas to be released so we can bookmark it for future reference.
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jillian
October 13, 2023 at 4:17 PM
I can understand. Sometimes its even hard foe mw to remember it all. Pro tip: if you are hesitant to ask, you can always ask google and just add "kdrama" at the end of the acronyms. It will not lead you astray.
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Ahjummaaa
October 13, 2023 at 4:26 PM
the acronyms give me a head lol. sometimes I just google it when I don't want to use my brain too much. and surprisingly, google search will have the right answer
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Ahjummaaa
October 13, 2023 at 4:28 PM
headache. I meant to say headache XD
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Antonella73
October 13, 2023 at 4:34 PM
Thanks for all your valuable advice.
Actually, I often used Google to decipher some acronyms.
Sometimes I succeed to find out the meaning, sometimes it's a little more complicated.
Btw, the biggest disappointment is discovering that many dramas, unfortunately, are not available here in Italy 8-(
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sonai
October 14, 2023 at 1:17 AM
Oh, I feel the pain! The shows offered by streaming services in my region seem to be only a fraction of what is actually out there. Plus there’s the translation or changing of titles (whyyyyyyy) etc. It all starts with googling, lol 😅
But, other than show acronyms, I wanted to mention that there’s actually a glossary of terms, that are frequently used throughout articles (and in comments), which helped me when I joined Dramabeans: https://www.dramabeans.com/about-old/glossary/
Sadly, I think it’s not being updated any more, but I still find it very helpful! (It’s linked in the “Resources” section of this page, in case you haven’t stumbled across it yet!)
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Healer’s
October 13, 2023 at 9:32 PM
I am bad at many things but definitely worst at the acronym guess game 😂 My brain surrenders those acronyms all the time. That's one reason why I rarely use acronyms myself unless, say, in a drama hangout where the topic is specific and no one has to guess.
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14 Diana Hansen
October 13, 2023 at 12:44 PM
I got lucky and found Miraculous Boys on the dark side and just finished watching it and I loved it. Jung Woo did get a little loud sometimes but the story kept my attention all the way through. I like things that delve into relationships and circumstances surrounding them like this one did. And yes, I love Oh Man-seok so it was fun to see him in another drama. The best part? I could follow what was happening in it.
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Ahjummaaa
October 15, 2023 at 6:28 PM
Oh I need to pick that up again. I'm one of the weirdos who love hearing Jung Woo yelling and all fired up lol!
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Diana Hansen
October 16, 2023 at 8:14 AM
I think you should! He is endearing even when shouting, isn't he? LOL
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15 Kitsune Moon
October 13, 2023 at 1:28 PM
I finished "My holo love" you guys!!!! OMG How can you watch this show and not fall in love with Holo/Nan-do? I mean, this is the weirdest love triangle I've ever seen, but I get it. AAHAHHH SO MANY FEELS!!!!
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
October 13, 2023 at 1:34 PM
It really is quite a sweet love triangle.
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Tizzy
October 13, 2023 at 5:13 PM
Ohhhh, I just finished Holo Love too! I read a few comments here last week and decided to check it out. That's why l love Dramabeans!!!
Going back to Holo Love, I really love both versions of the male lead! How did I miss this drama? It was really good! I binged watch over the weekend!
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16 MikeyD signed up
October 13, 2023 at 5:33 PM
We've all complained about K-drama rom coms having slasher/serial killer sides stories. It gets on peoples nerves. But one thing I noticed is after the crime story get wrapped up and the drama reverts to romance interest in the series drops off. 'That last episode of (Lovely Liar, as an example) was just romance stuff - yuck!' But you had been complaining about the crime story interrupting the romance! There's just no pleasing some people. :-)
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Elinor, Thug Noonim
October 14, 2023 at 12:45 PM
😆 Guilty as charged.
Maybe - maybe - it would help if those rom-coms had no slasher/serial killer in the first place. I can think of some recent examples of shows that had little or none of that and no corresponding drop-off.
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17 beffels
October 13, 2023 at 6:05 PM
Pretty late to the open thread today but just have to comment because this week is an exciting week for me- Super Junior D&E are coming to Auckland for a fan concert which is not a thing I would have ever expected - have been watching fan cams in envy but now they’ll be in New Zealand! There’s been basically no promotion that I’ve seen so I expect it to be fairly empty 😅 but hopefully still good fun.
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Britney
October 14, 2023 at 4:02 AM
What's Super Junior D&E?
And congrats!
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🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
October 15, 2023 at 3:16 AM
A sub-unit of Super Junior comprising of (my favorite) Donghae and Eunhyuk.
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beffels
October 16, 2023 at 12:50 AM
The best sub unit! 🤩
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18 MikeyD signed up
October 13, 2023 at 10:22 PM
I just watch the 2022 Hong Sang-soo film 'Walkup'. I have an odd relation with that director's works. They exasperate me no end and I don't really get the point, but I keep hunting down more of his films to watch. I'm reminded of a description of eating Pyongyang cold noodles (from the series 'Mello Is My Nature'). When you first try them you think 'There's no taste! What's all the fuss about?' Then three days later you wake up in the middle of the night suddenly craving Pyongyang cold noodles again.
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19 DancingEmma
October 14, 2023 at 12:50 AM
I’ve been thinking about how fragile our connections to each other are on DB no matter the pleasure we det from our interactions: Anonymous (some of you might have connected outside of DB but I always worry it is not the done thing to ask people to pierce their anonymity no matter how much fun it would be to meet my DB mates), facilitated (or not) by a creaky tech system and dependent on the whims of the owners. If any of us disappears, we can’t find out how they are until and if they come back. All of this and a few other things have made me feel melancholic. Somethings are ephemeral and they shouldn’t be. Other things last a life time and they should be over in the blink of an eye.
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Britney
October 14, 2023 at 4:05 AM
I think about stuff like this all the time especially now that the site is wonky which is likely to discouraging more folks from engaging. Too bad we don't have another means of staying connected.
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DancingEmma
October 14, 2023 at 4:21 AM
I hear you. We can’t even message another Beanie so it is all like a house of cards. Worrying for sure. Btw, I sent you a virtual hug in another comment but forgot to tag you.
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Britney
October 14, 2023 at 10:40 AM
Dramabeans does have social media accounts but I don't think people want to join them. The FB account would certainly be helpful with staying in touch haha
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20 Britney
October 15, 2023 at 3:16 PM
I don't even know if anyone will see or engage with this at this point but I just saw a scenario on Running Man and wanted other people's perspectives.
The situation they're debating is "who's most at fault". 3 guys arrange to hang out at a bar. Guy 1 gets there first and orders snacks & high end alcohol. Guys 2 & 3 come together but Guy 2 leaves after a couple of minutes cause he made plans with his girlfriend for the same day/time and now she's outside waiting for him. Guy 3 doesn't drink but he eats the snacks and instagrams the hangout. Guy 1 continues getting drinks and the guys have a good time hanging out. Time to pay the bill and Guy 3 pays for the snacks (or the snacks he ate) giving about ~5 dollars) meanwhile Guy 1 says they should split the bill since they both hung out & had a good time.
As the situation was being described, the RM members were already calling Guy 2 trash and then they said Guy 3 just ruined the friendship.
What are your thoughts?
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
October 15, 2023 at 11:40 PM
This is interesting as it doesn’t seem like the guys know each other well enough to have been out on a regular basis so this sounds like a first experience for them. Guy 2 should have said he had double booked by mistake and to make up for it left some money to cover a drink for each friend. Guy 3 should have said he wouldn’t be drinking but wanted to have fun with his friends. Guy 1 as the only drinker should pay for his own drinks, why should the other person cover his half his bill especially as he chose high end drinks as his personal preference? I am aware that it is cultural how people cover this kind of situation though so if it’s usual to split the bill regardless then guy 3 is going to be seen as being cheap.
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
October 16, 2023 at 5:13 AM
What were your thoughts on it?
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Britney
October 16, 2023 at 11:49 AM
I was in the camp of paying for what you actually ate. That's how my mother taught me actually. Even this year, we went to a big dinner and the first thing she did was tell the waiter to have separate checks. It did cause some friction with the way she did it.
On Running Man, the general consenus was Guy 1 was most at fault because he got expensive liquor on his own and planned on putting that on other people to pay (at least in part) without discussing it beforehand. I was surprised by people saying Guy 2 should've left money for his fair share; he wasn't even there for anything! He didn't drink or eat snacks. He basically just went hi & bye.
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
October 16, 2023 at 11:59 AM
For me with Guy 2 it was the fact that his friends and girlfriend both booked him and him popping in to say hi and that he wouldn’t be staying was bad form. He could have given more notice and he blatantly was showing he prioritised one over the other, if it was the girlfriend who got blanked we know he would have had to make up for that too so why not try to ease any bad feeling by treating the friends to a drink in his absence? If he had given more notice then I wouldn’t expect him to pay anything.
I don’t drink and I am vegan so I get annoyed with the ‘let’s split the bill’ approach as most people drink alcohol and have meat dishes that are usually a lot more than my meal and drink, so it’s an uneven distribution in their favour.
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