Definitely counts

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AppleTV has arrangements with other providers to allow subscribers of those providers to watch their shows via AppleTV. Duel is one such show. You can sign up for "CJ ENM Selects" through AppleTV for $4.99/mo and then watch Duel that way. (amazon prime video has this model as well, but no arrangement with CJ ENM Selects.)

Thanks @zindigo for that information.
Question, is the $4.99/mo an addition to the Apple TV monthly fee of $9.99/mo?

@marcusnyc20 I'm pretty sure you can subscribe just to CJ ENM through AppleTV without subscribing to AppleTV as well.
You'd need an Apple ID, which you can obtain without an Apple device. And you can access the content via the AppleTV app on a smart TV like a Roku.

I also found this article: https://cjenm.com/en/news/cj-enm-selects-now-available-on-the-apple-tv-app-for-users-in-the-us-and-canada/

@marcusnyc20 There's also a free 7-day trial, so if you have an AppleID and the AppleTV app, you can try it out for a week before subscribing.

@zindigo, thank you for the follow up responses and the link. I have an Apple ID (iPhone, iPad) so I will do some investigating.

Greatly missed indeed.

Do you remember a series of posts @pakalanapikake made about how easterners perceive storytelling compared to westerners? That in the western storytelling culture the story is expected to have a distinct arc, growth, and conclusion. While in eastern storytelling culture a story can start in a middle, and end in a middle, just to tell a story with no need for clear growth. And that this is the base of most criticism of western audience of Kdramas. I found those posts and the wisdom behind them fascinating but I haven't been able to find them since.

@midnight,
She had a lot of wisdom to share and expressed it eloquently. I missed watching sageuks with her.
I remembered her post but don't remember what thread it was under.

I read every post of hers many many times. Even if I wasn't watching the show being discussed. Truly one of a kind.

@midnight,
She was and more!
I knew that she was having difficulties with her eyesight even before Covid. I regret not asking for her contact information at that time.

@pakalanapikake is greatly missed indeed.

Another favorite of @pakalanapikake was Yoon Shi-yoon. Although I had some sageuk experience it was watching little TV Chosun’s GRAND PRINCE (2018) (Viki US) with her and some faithful beanies that I think cemented my love for the genre. Also it aired (Mar-May 2018) during what I call the ‘Troubles’ at DramaBeans and we had to resort to hijacking a GRAND PRINCE or YSY news post (I forget now) for beanies to post comments on the episodes as they aired. Glad all that is well behind us.
Then Yoon Shin-yoon arrived in SBS’s YOUR HONOR (2018) (Viki US). We had a ball with that one also. Memories.

I love love love Train. I just melt at the mere thought of all the scenes of him interacting with himself.

The young actors were the best part for me too!
Thank you! I remembered he was cast in a sageuk, but I can't recall which one.

Serenade is a tvN production! Interesting re: JOL comparison. I'm wondering if it's just poor translation of some preliminary marketing. "Virtual" definitely implies something different than "fictional".

Oh, I think I recall something - isn't it the one where ML runs away to find himself a bride based on feelings contrary to typical for his status arranged marriage with a stranger? That can be very funny, if done right. Also, isn't it very FL-like story? Usually it's girls who dramatically escape from loveless political marriages in historical fiction^^

They were lovely playing these endearing characters. I enjoyed that parallel story too.

Now that I think about it, in KBS’s CURTAIN CALL (2022) (Viki US) both leads Ha Ji-won and Kang Ha-neul did something similar and played the younger adult versions of characters in the drama. As younger versions they appear during the Korean war which was very dramatic and heart breaking.

Someone remembers it! Thank you! 😂😅😅

There's only 4 hourly episodes of it and he's in like first 7-10 minutes of each, so you can just FF everything else, won't take much time and you won't miss a lot - plot is a mess, ending is blah etc. The whole thing is on YT subbed, or at least it was...

He also had some great moments in OBY, but that drama was not on par with his efforts, sadly. DR SLUMP didn't impress me either - felt like a parody of his earlier roles sometimes, and everything else he can act in his sleep. I think he's really more suited for angsty characters and heavier roles, or at least far more invested in those.

@gikata I think you are on to something. He clearly does not enjoy rom-coms. He sleep walks through them. In DS he shone in the scenes that needed actual heavy lifting (the OT resuscitation scene, the PTSD induced terror end of episode 9, the entire angst ridden episode 10, the reflective episode 13 and parts of 14. As an actor, I do think OBY is his best input till date because it was challenging and he rose up to it in an incredible manner.

@Skiee: Here you go. Just watch the first 10-15 minutes in the beginning of every episode. If you want you can check out the rest of ff through them. The story is about twins and on paper it must have looked really good. It's just that it's hard to watch the better one of them always get the short stick, right till the end.
1- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lli3-LcEfMU
2- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLUjhYGuQTk
3- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVJiM5CWGjU
4 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Omx3K1HDnkE

@minniegupta1 thank you for the links I'll definitely watch it @gikata
Yes I forgot about OBY, he did great in it too..

I think you'll are right..He focuses more where effort is needed 😇

@minniegupta1 well, he certainly not the first actor who grew out of romcoms while some people never do, and we've seen with our own eyes how long it took him to start getting offers in genres he's actually interested in. May it work this time around, both for his and our sake because, as you rightly said, it's not very fun to see him sleepwalking through the role, however prettily he does it.

That being said I did love him in DS and it is one of my favorites. I watched Sirius and he's really impressive in it, I would have watched it if he was fully in it.

Like many gifted young actors, he's definitely much better when paired up with someone equally or more skilled. Pity it doesn't happen to him very often...

Ahahaha, that was a huge mistake, if I've ever seen one))) Hope your spam filter managed to recover.

@gikata, one reason I have sort of fond memories of KBS’s HWARANG (2016/17) is that it aired still early in my entry to kdramaland and introduced me to a slew of actors (mostly male natch lol) from the Park brothers (Seo-joon and Hyung-sik) to Yoo Jae-mung, Sung Dong-il etc.
After that I followed PHS to JTBC’s SWDBS (2017), then on to SUITS (2018) and after his return from the military tvN’s HAPPINESS (2021).
Remember the boatload of cr*p (or criticism) PHS received because of his post military looks? (So his face filled out a bit while in the military, so what.) Some people are crazy. Disgraceful.
He gave a terrific performance in HAPPINESS. My second favorite PHS drama.

@marcusnyc20 how could I forget? Ngl, even I was a little shocked seeing his post-military physique in HAPPINESS for the first time - the difference with "before" was HUGE, ahem - but I truly never understood the complaints. He looked great, fit the role perfectly and, most importantly, there weren't much traces of his previous characters in that look, which I could only applaud him for. How many actors, esp in perfection-obsessed countries like SK, can claim such a diversity in their visuals from role to role? Usually it's just 2 - pre-fame unpolished look and after-celeb-glow-up, with hardly anything in between once the point 2 is reached.

Btw, it does seem that the most bodyshaming happened during OBY era. Perhaps because HAPPINESS was niche show of a genre that not everyone can stomach, so a lot of potential complainers simply didn't watch it? Their loss, if so)))

Well I got bombarded from Amazon with emails trying to lure me to by a TAG Heuer watch.

😂😂😂😂😂

His PPLs are effective it seems. I was so in love with his jackets in Happiness that I tried looking them up and found some of them are upwards of $3000 and started seeing Valentino ads everywhere 😂

a slew of actors (mostly male natch lol) from the Park brothers (Seo-joon and Hyung-sik) to Yoo Jae-mung, Sung Dong-il etc.

One thing Hwarang had in boatloads was talent. It was filled with actors who know their craft. Too bad the crew behind the camera did not.

We are seriously considering a community watch for Hwarang just for the heck of it 😂 Afterall it's so bad it's good.

To answer this, I can only quote my other fave LJG: "It's not that I'm averse to romcoms in general - I just wish to be offered a well-scripted one!" *proceeds to not do any in almost 2 decades* Very telling, I'd say^^

Ohhh he said that .. I do love romcoms yes with better scripts obviously. He tries out all genres not sticking to one which is a good thing. I hope he gets good scripts like happiness which is highly underrated. Knetz are really crazy with looks ,I read when OBY released that CP is supposed to be the prettiest man and he doesn't look good and all ...but whatever it's better to ignore the crazy ones.. I think his next project is similar to suits in character we'll see😇

@gikata
By LJG you mean lee joon gi ?? Because he's my other favorite too

@Gikata I think most artists consider "rom-coms" to be the lowest degree of dramas even though they are the most popular. A well-scripted rom-com is a unicorn. As long as LJG is working and doing something that makes him happy - as a fan that's all I need.

@Skiee Yes Gikata is referring to Lee Joon-gi. 😍

Park Seo-joon and him had an interesting conversation in In the Soop: Friendcation where they discussed how they were unable to relate to the rom-coms being offered to them.

@gikata is right, few are written well. I think most non rom-coms have better romances.

@minniegupta1 Strange but true. K-drama's unique ability to have the most heartfelt romances in non-rom-com genres.

^^ Contd/- ... never fails to amaze me. 😂

Thanks! I have not watched Beyond Evil.

Camaro, lol! Makes too much noise.

Lol, thanks.

Oops!!Thanks Cera.