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Misaeng: Episode 19

Finale week is upon us, and it’s an emotional one. I dare you to try going through this episode without tearing up once, because you may just not be human if you can do so. This is Chief Oh’s episode all around, as he struggles yet again to find the balance between his values and workplace politics. But that balance is out of his control, and when life throws punches, sometimes you just gotta take ’em.

 
EPISODE 19 RECAP

The air is tense as Sales Team 3 convenes to hear the recording of Geu-rae’s call with Assistant Manager Seok, the One International representative in China. Chief Oh calls Assistant Manager Seok to ensure that everything is going fine and that the recording of the call is erased. He asks Chief Chun and Dong-shik to leave the room to give Geu-rae a proper scolding and explanation. What he did may have just put their team in more danger.

In the meeting room, Chief Oh says that Assistant Manager Seok isn’t in a position to formally take responsibility for his information. Now with Geu-rae voicing suspicions about their contract with Poshin, he may feel anxious and take unwanted action against them. There is also no evidence or grounding for Geu-rae’s assumptions on the executive director’s kickback. This issue will only get larger, and if it’s revealed that the executive director isn’t involved in shady business, Geu-rae and the team are in some deep shit.

Outside Dong-shik articulates his worries to Chief Chun, saying that Geu-rae’s actions may have caused Assistant Manager Seok to worry about his position in this supposed illicit deal. Chief Chun informs Dong-shik that Geu-rae figured out Chief Oh’s intentions behind his uncharacteristic undertaking of this project (since he overheard their conversation on the roof). Geu-rae suspected that Chief Oh’s blurred judgment was because of him, and he wanted to confirm his suspicions on this project. Only, he did so under the naïve assumption that this would help the team.

When Dong-shik and Chief Chun return, Chief Oh gets onto their next order of business to keep their undercover investigation of this deal in the dark. Chief Chun advises that they go through the motions of continuing this deal to show Assistant Manager Seok that everything is business as usual. In regards to the agency and the excessive commission percentage, Chief Oh decides to meet with the executive director. In the back, meek Geu-rae stands sheepishly with little to contribute.

Chief Oh argues that the executive director is going overboard with the guanxi here, but he replies that they need to go to this extent to beat the favors offered by their competitors. Chief Oh brings up the projected low profits, but the executive director vaguely replies that it’s a worthwhile business despite that. He continues by telling Chief Oh that he’s been at this company for 28 years, during which he made the necessary business connections and delivered timely results to help this company grow to what it is now. This is just another step in that process.

Chief Oh responds with laughter and gets up to give him his resolve. “I respect your role in helping this company grow, no matter what method you used. But for this deal, don’t use that method. We will do this our way, with our decision on guanxi in our contract.” Before he leaves, he asks the executive director to remove the agent in the deal, or else they won’t continue with the successive project that requires this contract to go through. He wants to get promoted, doesn’t he? Aw yeah, Chief Oh is back.

When Chief Oh returns, he orders the contract to be revised, but Dong-shik and Chief Chun worry. They step outside to ask if Chief Oh threatened the executive director, but Chief Oh ensures that things will go in their favor because the executive director undoubtedly wants his promotion.

Chief Chun is called in by the executive director, who asks him what he thinks about the attached agent in the deal. Would the contract without the agent be enough guanxi for Poshin to want to conduct successive business with them? After some hesitation, Chief Chun replies that he doesn’t know, but he trusts Chief Oh to lead this project. That’s not what the executive director wants to hear, so he resorts to more ammo and asks about Geu-rae.

Seok-yul angrily gets off the phone with a representative from Chunsol and wonders aloud how much his boss is getting out of this unreliable company. He reports to Assistant Manager Sung that the company changed their subsidiary materials again, but Assistant Manager Sung doesn’t seem to be bothered. He addresses a call from the company and tells them to continue with their plans.

Seok-yul follows Assistant Manager Sung into the stairwell to eavesdrop on his phone conversation. He seems to be appeasing someone about paying back a debt, and that’s enough to confirm his suspicions that Assistant Manager Sung is involved with Chunsol somehow.

Walking into the break room, he runs into Young-yi and asks if she’s talked to Geu-rae yet. They both haven’t been able to speak with him, and Young-yi presumes that the China project is taking up a lot of Sales Team 3’s time. It was originally the project that Manager Ma wanted to pursue because of its stakes, but the executive director handed it over to Chief Oh, who unexpectedly agreed to take the project. Baek-ki walks in on their conversation but doesn’t add much, knowing Chief Oh’s real intent, but Seok-yul expresses his disappointment in Chief Oh.

Just then, Geu-rae walks in fuming and demands that they not talk about Chief Oh this way — they don’t know everything behind this project. He holds in his anger and gives them one last warning before going to the stairwell to brood. Baek-ki explains that Chief Oh is probably taking on this project because Geu-rae’s employment is on the line. Coming to this realization, Seok-yul asks if there’s anything they can do to help like with Deputy Director Sun’s project, but Young-yi shakes her head. This is different.

Geu-rae runs into the executive director by the elevators, and he’s reminded to drop by to play a game of baduk. Chief Oh is informed to arrive at a dinner with the executive director that evening, and when he arrives, he’s surprised at the sight of Geu-rae there as well.

The executive director explains that he felt a responsibility to buy dinner for Chief Oh, since he left Geu-rae in his care (referring to his hand in nepotism). He comments on how Geu-rae never dropped by for a game of baduk, and in that context, he says that a good move for oneself can also be a good move for an opponent. Chief Oh excuses Geu-rae, saying that he has work left to do, leaving the two to face off.

The executive director says that he brought Geu-rae to dinner because he wanted to remind Chief Oh of his reason to follow through with this China project. He doesn’t like the win-lose or lose-win situations; he’d prefer the win-win situation and requests that Chief Oh comply.

The next morning, Chief Oh visits the executive director’s office to give his compliance, but he won’t fall into the trap that he did with Eun-ji. This time, he wants the executive director to take responsibility for any problems that arise from the guanxi. He quickly agrees to do so by offering to sign the contract himself, which catches Chief Oh off-guard.

Chief Oh confides in Deputy Director Sun about the executive director, wondering where his team stands in this deal. Deputy Director Sun says that situations change, and Sales Team 3 may no longer be needed as a front-line defense; they may have become the bullet to hit the target. As the executive director is a person to think of his end goal, she advises Chief Oh to do the same.

Seok-yul continues to be bothered by Assistant Manager Sung’s attitude toward this whole Chunsol deal and seems even more irked now that he seems to know his ulterior motive. Meanwhile, our steel team duo continue to work as they wait for the elevator, causing Assistant Manager Ha to poke fun at his workaholic colleague. Assistant Manager Kang returns the favor by asking if Young-yi is sick of him smelling like cigarettes yet.

Assistant Manager Ha notes that they have a work environment inspection today and seems annoyed at this useless nuisance. Then the elevator doors open to two beautiful ladies, who catch their attention. Baek-ki boards the elevator, but the two bosses silently follow the ladies back into the office. HA.

They observe the ladies conducting the inspection, with Lead Inspector scolding Newbie Inspector for not following minute protocol. Young-yi comments to Baek-ki that their bosses must be smitten, and she’s right, as we see both men watch in their respective characteristic smitten states: Assistant Manager Ha smiles dreamily like a fool, and Assistant Manager Kang stares intensely. They simply watch from afar, but it’s hilarious because this is probably the most action they’ve gotten in this office.

In the break room, Assistant Manager Ha comments on the cute Newbie Inspector and calls the Lead Inspector uptight, but Assistant Manager Kang comes to her defense. Baek-ki walks in the room to make copies, and the conversation continues with both of them insulting each other’s taste in women. They turn to Baek-ki, and he states his honest opinion: He prefers the Newbie Inspector. Everyone laughs it off except for Assistant Manager Kang, who silently leaves the room, and Baek-ki quickly realizes his mistake.

Following his boss to the elevator, Baek-ki tries to mitigate his mistake, but Assistant Manager Kang simply turns to him and expresses his disappointment in Baek-ki’s taste in women. The elevators open just as the conversation ends, and out comes Seok-yul with a large camera, wondering what wrongs Baek-ki has committed.

In the break room, Seok-yul lectures Baek-ki on the one rule of newbiehood: Your boss’s taste is your bible. Laugh at the bad jokes, eat the same foods, follow them out for a smoke — you match everything to their tastes. And above all of that, it’s taste in women. Baek-ki just made a fatal mistake.

Assistant Manager Ha and Young-yi walk in, and he asks Baek-ki if Assistant Manager Kang still won’t acknowledge his strange taste. He then turns to Young-yi and asks which of the two women she prefers, and she automatically responds by choosing Newbie Inspector as more attractive. She even adds that she plans on working on her aegyo now. Baeki-ki and Seok-yul look at her wide-eyed, and Assistant Manager Ha gives her a thumbs up. She’s so much better at this than Baek-ki.

Seok-yul leaves with his big camera and follows Assistant Manager Sung late into the night. He sees a car pull up next to his boss’s, and as expected, it’s the representative from Chunsol. He starts taking pictures of their interaction, but he stops suddenly looking a bit surprised, though we don’t see what he saw.

Geu-rae is ready to leave for the day, and he catches Seok-yul going down in the elevator. Seok-yul seems a little shaken, but at the sight of Geu-rae, he gives him a hug with some encouraging words. He runs back into the elevator, leaving Geu-rae to give us some introspective words: “It’s like that. Sometimes, life gives you a malicious quiz and leaves you with hints in the most absurd places. And there’s no guarantee about the resulting solution.”

The executive director visits Sales Team 3 to show his support for their work, and Geu-rae tells us that his team became workaholics to reach the end. All they did was work, until one day when they get a visit from the head office. They received a report regarding Sales Team 3’s project under the executive director, and more specifically, about a recording. Uh-oh.

Although Chief Oh had quickly tried to pacify his worries, Assistant Manager Seok in China reported his conversation with Sales Team 3 to his boss, which then got relayed to the Chinese business. The report was from the Chinese counterpart, who had wished to withdraw from this strange circumstance of a supposed recording.

All of the executive director’s previous business dealings are investigated, and he’s forced to explain his method of business. Chief Oh is interrogated on his take on this business deal and his suspicion on the level of guanxi. He actually tries to defend the executive director by making vague statements on the relative nature of guanxi depending on the risks and benefits, but the interrogators know that Chief Oh was suspicious of this sort of deal, as he didn’t include the executive director’s excessive guanxi in his version of the contract and further investigated their Chinese partners.

The president visits the executive director to inform him that official protocol will be followed. The executive director argues that the president was well aware of this method of business, and the president acknowledges this. But the head office is a different story. He’s going to have to prepare himself.

The executive director exits the elevator and is met with all of his employees. They’re bidding him farewell, and the executive director takes one more look at Chief Oh before taking his leave. Chief Oh sits at his desk looking at past projects and reminiscing about the time when they proudly worked together as a team.

The executive director is transferred over to an unlisted branch of One Global, while Chief Oh and Sales Team 3 are exempt from any penalties due to their integrity in handling the issue. But integrity has its consequences, as rumor of this guanxi case gets out and many Chinese businesses refuse to conduct business with One International.

As the days go by, the blame continues to stack onto Chief Oh’s shoulders. Geu-rae admits, “Even the strong Chief Oh started to falter. And I knew that it was all because of the rash actions of one contract employee.”

Chief Oh scolds Geu-rae on the roof for trying to take the blame. He says that he’s the one to take responsibility because he’s the one who started all of this mess, dragging in the team and clueless Geu-rae. Seeing Geu-rae continue to mope, Chief Oh yells at him for his self-blame and tells him that people in higher positions are supposed to take responsibility.

He warns Geu-rae of the future difficulties at work, since this is on a greater scale than Chief Park’s scandal. But Geu-rae is good at this kind of stuff — being patient and enduring. Sales Team 3 will all have to endure. He tells Geu-rae to keep his head up and stand up straight. They’ve got a long road ahead.

The resource team has trouble with their Chinese business partners, who request reevaluations of their contracts with the company because word got out about the agent stuck in the Poshin deal. They blame Chief Oh for bringing this upon them, and Young-yi tries to help by jumping onto the task of finding new businesses. Assistant Manager Ha understands Young-yi’s attempt to help Chief Oh, but there’s a bigger impact on the company than just their team: All the other teams with Chinese business partners will be affected.

This is true, as Chief Oh sits through an argument over the Poshin deal, which has caused a fair amount of frustration and hatred on their company online forum. After work, Chief Oh goes out to drink with Deputy Director Sun and Chief Go while Geu-rae goes out with his newbie colleagues. They seem to be drowning in their misery, but there’s nothing much the others can do to help. Geu-rae crawls back home in his drunken state, and all his mother can do is cook ramen for him and look at him with sympathy.

Chief Oh goes to meet the executive director, who tells him that he was shocked to be dismissed from a company he had dedicated his last 28 years to. Speaking in metaphor, he says that he thought little of keeping both feet on the ground to reach the stars, but he realized that the company wanted a giant who could keep both feet on the ground while still looking to the stars. Chief Oh says that he thought at one point that the executive director would become that giant.

The real reason the executive director called Chief Oh was to thank him for not getting him into more trouble with his motive for rebate. Chief Oh says that he didn’t mention it only because he didn’t have solid evidence of this rebate; he had a conviction but no confirmation, just like with Eun-ji.

Just as Chief Oh is about to leave, the executive director tells him that while he can reclaim his esteem in his new position, Chief Oh is going to have a harder time. Under his name, he’ll have difficulty conducting business as usual.

Unfortunately, the executive director’s words prove to be right, as Sales Team 3 struggles to find a new project. Other teams are noncompliant, and even their current project approvals are now back to pending. Chief Oh is told that all of his past projects are currently being rejected. Other teams are resolving the issue by explaining that Chief Oh’s actions don’t represent the company but are just a personal stance. Even the company is starting to resort to Chief Oh’s possible dismissal as an excuse to continue business. Whaaat?!! Noooo.

Chief Oh tells Deputy Director Sun that he needs to leave for his team to survive, but she tells him that that’s not the best that they can do. The company may favor a quick, short-term resolution to this problem, but that won’t be the answer. He admits that he’s prepared to submit his resignation letter, but there’s one thing that makes him hesitate: Geu-rae.

Chief Oh wobbles home drunk and asks his wife if it would be okay if he resigned. She says that of course it wouldn’t be okay and asks if he’s resigning or being forced out. Chief Oh lies that he’s the one resigning, but she knows better. She agrees to let him quit but reminds him that he has three children. Then she walks around the house listing things he needs to buy with the company’s employment benefits before he officially leaves, which puts a smile on Chief Oh’s face. Aw.

He walks in the next morning in a good mood and with a hop in his step, greeting Young-yi, Seok-yul, and Baek-ki in a cheery fashion. When he arrives at his desk, he puts up his family picture and takes out his prepared resignation letter. He leaves it on the manager’s desk and goes back to clean up his things. When Geu-rae arrives, he’s crushed to see his beloved Chief Oh packing his things to leave the office.

In the meeting room, Geu-rae tears up as Chief Oh tells him that he’s just leaving, not dying. He tells his hardworking Geu-rae to endure and win, but that he himself has endured long enough for his legs to go wobbly. He requests that Geu-rae see the end, no matter how difficult. “There are things in life that we start even with a predetermined end. Jang Geu-rae, I’m sorry that I couldn’t take responsibility until the end.”

When he confronts Deputy Director Sun about his resignation, she tries to persuade him out of it, saying that it will pass. But Chief Oh has made up his mind, and he tells her to get promoted so that she can help Geu-rae, Dong-shik, and his Sales Team 3. He also shares a moment with Chief Go, keeping a smile plastered on his face.

When he returns to his desk, all the newbies are lined up. They silently shake Chief Oh’s hand, and it’s clear that each person was impacted by him in some way. As he walks out, he leaves Geu-rae with his work slippers and the newbies hold back their tears. It’s pure heartbreak.

Sales Team 3 goes out for one last team dinner, and they remember the old days when Chief Chun and Dong-shik were much younger. Dong-shik goes outside to take a leak, but Chief Chun finds him outside in tears. He can’t seem to stop crying, and Chief Chun lets him be.

Geu-rae follows Chief Oh home, where he’s reminded one more time to endure and win. It almost seems like any other day, as Geu-rae bows and leaves without taking a look back. Geu-rae walks back home, thinking about his growth with Chief Oh, and Chief Oh broods a little more outside on a bench.

When Geu-rae arrives home, the floodgates let lose, and all the tears he’s been holding back stream down his face. He breaks down with nothing else to say but, “I’m sorry,” over and over and over again.

 
COMMENTS

Noooo. Chief Ohhhhhh. I hate to see him go and cause everyone so much sadness, but he really chose the best option he had. He’s been holding onto that resignation letter for way too long, so I could only imagine how big of a relief it is to finally leave. Thanks to his wife, who read past his lies to hear his desperate cries for help, he was able to let down the burden of family and escape the wild corporate jungle. Leaving behind his Sales Team 3 can’t be a great feeling, but there’s only so much he can take before he completely loses his pride and dignity.

The executive director’s automatic response of “it’s all for the company” scares me because you start to realize that anything he does could be for the company. Slipping in some extra cash — it’s for the company. Blaming a business failure on a female contract employee — it’s all for the company. Going the extra mile with the guanxi — it’s all for the company. What’s next? While I can respect his dedication to the company, he’s taken a ride down the slippery slope, losing his integrity somewhere along the ride. For him, the end justified the means, and that was his downfall. In that sense, Chief Oh is the beacon of light in a crowd full of crazies, but because he’s working with a crowd of crazies, he was punished for doing the right thing. He was blamed for sticking to his values and the impact was evident in the whole company, which must be a horrible feeling.

Geu-rae’s heartbreak was so hard to watch because I know how much he’s blaming himself no matter how much Chief Oh tells him not to. It’s just like the first episode, when he’s blaming himself for everything that’s happened, even though it was completely out of his control. This again, was out of his control, and he only acted on principle when he was calling the representative in China. It was a green mistake, as Chief Chun noted, and Chief Oh was ready to take the blame, but Geu-rae wasn’t ready to give it to him. I only hope that he can overcome this self-blame to follow through with Chief Oh’s instruction to endure and win.

At this point, it seems that all the newbies have established some rapport with their bosses, except for Seok-yul of course, who’s always one step ahead about other people’s gossip but one step behind in his own. Seeing that he’s calmed down his aggressive attitude towards his boss, he must have witnessed an important factor in Assistant Manager Sung’s life that made everything understandable. I wonder what that is, and I’m sure we’ll find out soon enough. Next episode, in fact, because we’ve only got one left. Where has the time gone?!

The newbie dynamic has been one of my favorite things about this show, and I will most definitely miss it. I love how everyone has someone to lean on in this group, and it’s heartwarming to see all of them so eager to help each other out now. The amount of respect and understanding they have for each other is so admirable, and as Chief Oh noted, I hope that they remember the passion they had for their work, which can only be amplified by the support they felt from each other.

I am amazed at the amount of media attention that Misaeng has been getting, and I find it so fitting that it’s rising in popularity on tvN, not one of the Big Three. It makes the underdog story even more underdog (though tvN is slowly growing out of its underdog phase, just like Geu-rae, heh) and perfect. I think this show has done such a great job of catering something for everyone, because somewhere in this cubicle corporate madness, you can find something that hits home. The depressing feel of the drama made it hard for me to enjoy at times, but the subtle and melancholy tone with a splash of relatable struggles made me keep coming back for more, ready to learn more Yoda-isms and Baduk-isms. I think the show did an amazing job with the casting, as the creation of Puppy Geu-rae and Super Salaryman Newbie Guardian Angel Chief Oh could not have been complete without Im Shi-wan and Lee Sung-min. While the show did hint at possible love lines, we all know the main love line here was between these two, and I ship it.

 
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Misaeng, incomplete and abridged:

This is the story of Mr Oh, a hard-working and principled line manager of a trading company. For him, his principles are more important than anything else in the world, more important than his company, his job, his team, his coworkers, his superiors, and of course much more important than his wife and kids.

God is very proud of him, but the Devil argues that Mr Oh might be able to resist anything except temptation. He sends his agent, Jang Geu-rae, the perfect bait, to seduce Mr. Oh. After a lot of effort, the demon in the body of a young man finally succeeds: Mr Oh betrays his principles for Geu-rae. Our hero gets what he deserves for that, of course, as Geu-.rae immediately stabs Mr Oh in the back and manages to get Mr Oh fired.

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Your retelling is giving me Jang Bori is Here flashbacks. But with uglier clothes being destroyed.

Jang Gurae as Min Jung. That's not a connection I'd have made otherwise.

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Wow, what a dark, twisted interpretation. I definitely think you missed something while watching this.

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Well, there is the tragic moment when the demon cries at the end. Not about having back-stabbed Mr Oh, of course, just about seducing him.

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LOL

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I was crying, but then I read this comment and now I can't stop laughing.

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Well said, all.

But may I add? Assistant Manager Kang: I will live properly for you.

Also, Young Yi handling that "which lady is better" situation like it was NBD. She's a super hero.

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But may I add? Assistant Manager Kang: I will live properly for you.

Yes!

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I loved how they portrayed his different taste! It makes him all the more attractive hehe

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The woman playing Asst Mgr Kang's dream girl was a reporter in "Hero" (the Lee Joon Ki newspaper reporter series). Her voice is very distinctive.

Also, I only have eyes for Chief Oh (and his sweet sidekick, Dong Sik.)

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omg! thank you so much dramallama!!! been refreshing all day yesterday for this. lots of articles about how good/perfect the finale was. can't wait for the final recap

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"Those who endure, conquer."
Jang geurae shi, we'll miss you..

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Me too... I'm gonna miss Jang geu-rae and Chief Of... *tear up*

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*raises hand*

I criiiiiiied.

In this episode and even more so the next one.

Though in the final episode there were a few tears of a happiness too.

Utter perfection this drama. *sigh*

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Must add: Mrs. Oh is every kind of awesome in her understanding of her husband. And Geu-rae's mom, cooking ramen for her sad, drunk boy in the middle of the night, is every kind of awesome too.

(hugs for everyone around)

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*Also raises hand*

Husband found me crouched in front of the compute, "Are you weeping???" he asked.

Yeah. I was outright weeping. Sigh.

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Yes! I live next to a very large lake. I shall re-christen it Lake Misaeng. Unfortunately, our snowfall has been well under what it should be the last couple years. But with all our tears, we shall raise the water up to normal levels... maybe then some.

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LOL. Well, darn... that was meant for way down below re: comments on lake. I'll try again with that. :-)

But for @ Mel..

I wept uncontrollably, as well. No husband, but my dog was definitely concerned. Unfortunately I also have to wear large glasses. Wiping away tears fast enough, staying focused on the screen, reading subtitles, and keeping my glasses from getting drenched... all at once. Not easy.

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*raises hand too*

I cried, too. A LOT.

The last show that made me cry this hard was Battlestar Galactica, I suppose I just have a thing for embattled teams working to live another day and in which the cast is led by veteran actors whose characters are sort of like a stand-in dad for younger protagonists.

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Love this drama!

Having principles in this world is hard, and doing the right thing when everyone is doing the wrong thing (and the wrong thing is seen by the community as the "right" thing) is so difficult.

Am so glad Chief Oh is free! I was so worried about his kidneys and his blood pressure. One of the Korean women in the ESL class I co-teach is so angry at the whole Korean hierarchy thing. And I can see how the corporate atmosphere plus the hierarchy thing can really get to a person. It's so difficult to think for yourself as it is in a large conglomerate. So, yay!!! Chief Oh is free and happier and healthier for it. Just because you choose the right road doesn't mean you won't suffer. Heck choosing the right and healthy road often leads to suffering. But am blad he could break free. Living in a state of sustained fight or flight can't be good for one's health.

Poor Seuk Yul! It's amazing how he rarely shared his problems with others, sharing his pain in a cryptic way and not allowing his newbie colleagues to comfort him.

Thanks for the recap.

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My feeling when I watched Chief Oh's expression after he spoke to his wife,... it was such a relief to him! As he said to GR, he'd been hanging on for so long, until his legs were wobbling. It was time to let go.

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I know we all wanted Sales Team 3 to be together forever, and that meant staying at One International, but we all know it's really not the best for Chief Oh. On one hand it's a relief, but the looks on the faces of his colleagues and newbies just makes it SO HARD.

Seok-yul's one of the dark horses of this drama, in every way - actor and character. But thank god his centre part came back - it's halfway to having the old Seok-yul back again. That entire episode where he changed his hairdo the first time, was so sad for me to see the horrible work environment getting even Seok-yul so down.

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I've now got a new actor to love. I generally know I like an actor or actress when I remember his/her name. Byun Yo-Han! Byun Yo-Han! Loving him. I've been searching for his movies online.

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I knew I loved Seok-yul the minute he got shy, meek Geu-rae to curse at his texts, haha.

And count me in as a Byun Yo-han fan too!We didn't even know who he was when the initial teasers and posters came out, but that young man has stolen many hearts around here (and he+Im Shi-wan = GOLD).

Also looking at his filmography, he started acting in his mid twenties so dare I hope his military service is out of the way and we don't lose him as soon as we discovered him?

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@ Carole McDonnell

"Having principles in this world is hard, and doing the right thing when everyone is doing the wrong thing (and the wrong thing is seen by the community as the “right” thing) is so difficult."

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The world would be a better place if more people had the courage to do the right thing in all situations (even when no one else is looking.)

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I'm glad Lee Sung-min has had such a great role after the way he was treated during Golden Time.

I think a lot of this story could have happened at a US corporation. Newbie green mistakes and getting in trouble for blowing the whistle are universal themes.

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I've been thinking about this, and Lee Sung Min kind of had a Toshiro Mifune kind of thing going on (the flawed and pragmatic but also talented and upright samurai), and the whole drama had kind of a samurai movie thing happening.

I feel like the Baduk commentary was used to inflect the script with the sort of aphorisms you'd expect in a samurai movie. And Lee Sung Min has that same kind of rough voiced, mannerless noble affect that Mifune always played.

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Wow! That is a great analogy. Thanks for sharing.

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Mifune? Hah, yes, even down to the same messy, tussled hair-do!

It was certainly a battleground from start to finish!

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Please don't let episode 20 end with heartbreak. This show is phenomenal, but I need it to end with a smile. On the plus side, thank you to the actor playing Assistant Manager Kang - he is sooo good looking. Must find a way to incorporate that screen capture shot into my daily life.

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I swooned when Assistant Manager Kang said the thing about liking women who lived properly. I love his deadpan face.

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Oh, my yes! Swoon. And once again... I want to marry Chief Oh.

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I want to marry Chief Oh too

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I hope this international love for Lee Sung-Min/ his acting/ the character is filtering down to him. Let's face it, Chief Oh is now one of the great characters of fiction, period, and Lee Sung-Min should be an international star. I hope at least glimpses of this worldwide acclaim is making its way to Korea. Any beanies there who can tell us?

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I really wish I knew Lee Sung-min's agency so I could write him a fan letter, even if it's in English. Just to say how much we loved him as Chief Oh.

I'd want to marry Chief Oh, too, if Mrs. Oh wasn't so awesome on her own.

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@pogo -- Great idea. I found out his agency is Hodoo Entertainment. This is an interesting story on them in English (from Arirang TV, which is a good source of English-language info on the Korean entertainment industry.).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIKzQOviCyg

Some excellent actors represented by them. Firm said to allow actors to concentrate on acting.

Unfortunately, I haven't found their address yet. Anyone know?

Mrs. Oh... you're right! Awesome!

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How about we collect cheering messages to him here and other sites international fans frequent and post them in his daum fan cafe where there's a good chance he'll read it? I have access there and can have them translated and post them there if you'd like.

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@tt - I like that idea! But I wonder how to organise the collection of messages to him .....if you have any ideas, maybe post a link on the Misaeng ep 20 recap so more fans can see it?

It would be nice to be able to post our messages in one place so that it's easier for you or anyone translating, to post them to his fan cafe.

(or alternatively, send his agency links to the Misaeng episode recaps, where at least 50 percent of the comments are fangirling over Chief Oh - and that 50 percent is a conservative estimate!)

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@ pogo, if you or anyone can post a link on ep 20 recap (since I don't comment often here) I can collect the messages there.. Or, in case there aren't a lot of responses, maybe I can post the address to send the fan letters to.

May I ask for the link to the episode where the comments are fangirling over him? I can post that link on his fan site at least for now. Thanks!

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@tt -- What a great idea! And I agree @pogo, it would be great if we could organize it in one place. I'd been struggling on how to comment on @tt's idea since yesterday, since I didn't have any suggestion to offer on how to do this.

I wouldn't know where to begin here at DB. There are so many wonderful comments praising Lee Sung Min to gather here since Ep 1. But a link to this Episode 20 recap would be a good place to start, especially since we are having this discussion!

I haven't been able to find Hodoo Entertainment's website, or any contact info for them. Have you?

I don't know how Lee Sung Min's English is--I think we got just a snippet in Misaeng, if I recall correctly. There are actors who are breaking out beyond the Asian market who don't have great English skills. Well, at least one that I know, Lee Sung Min's agency-mate Song Kang-Ho (The Host, Snowpiercer, etc.).

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Hi @tt. I just saw your new post after my last comment. The love for Lee Sung-Min has been here since day one of Misaeng. People saying he's their favorite actor, swapping comments about movies and Kdramas he's in, etc. (I just saw him in The Attorney and Broken -- he was excellent in both. As always.)

I'm now sure who was the first to say "I want to marry Chief Oh", but we've been lining up ever since.

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Oops. That's "I’m not sure who was the first to say..."

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And double OOPS! I meant to say "But a link to this Episode 19 recap would be a good place to start, especially since we are having this discussion!" Not episode 20.

I'd need to do a better job of proofreading. Need more caffeine first! :-)

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...but seriously, we've been fangirling from the start. Just looked at the Episode 1 recap. There were 5 comments:

@ pogo: "And I’m really looking forward to more of Lee Sung-min. He owns his role from the moment he appears onscreen, and they couldn’t have chosen better for an actor who can both command an audience’s attention completely and still feel like an average, very relatable, team leader."

@ Waiting: "Also, I love Lee Sung Min and hoping he will bring on the older bromance."

@ Aigoooo: "Watching this because of Lee Sung Min. I’ve really enjoyed his characters since Pasta."

@ revlow: "I like Lee Sung-Min, too. Great in everything I’ve seen. Layers of subtleties here. Looking forward to the character’s back story."

@ Chi: "Lee Sung-Min is great, definitely a very capable actor."

... and this love-fest has gone on ever since.

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@ revlow First, "if you or anyone can post a link on ep 20 recap " I meant post a "comment" calling on all LSM fans lurking here to write messages for him, not link, sorry.

Hodoo is notorious for being difficult for fans to get in contact with, as they have no official website, twitter, facebook.. nothing. There's an address posted in his fancafe but I'm not sure if I'm allowed to share it here. I have asked the mod if it's okay and if I get an okay I'll share it here if anyone wants it.

I have perused through comments to some episode recaps but comments seemed mostly about the character Mr. Oh and not the actor himself so I think it'd be nice to maybe start a comment thread dedicated to him (if we're allowed to do it here) under ep 20 recap since it's the last episode and all. Sorry I'm not being so helpful, I'm not very good at organizing stuff like this, either.

Not sure about his English.. I don't think he's very fluent.

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@tt -- Looking over your earlier post, I'll try to answer:

if you or anyone can post a link on ep 20 recap (since I don’t comment often here) I can collect the messages there..

I can link. I may be a bit dense, but I not sure what you mean. On Ep 20 recap, do you want to provide the link to his daum fan cafe? Let me know and I'll be happy do whatever you'd like.

Or, in case there aren’t a lot of responses, maybe I can post the address to send the fan letters to.

Yes, please! I would love to send a fan letter!

May I ask for the link to the episode where the comments are fangirling over him? I can post that link on his fan site at least for now. Thanks!

As I've said, the fangirl comments are all over the recaps. Maybe say something to that effect? Give a couple links? In your own words, something like "The followers at Dramabeans have continued to fangirl about Lee Sung-Min from day one, from Episodes 1 to 19." and add...

LINKS:

Episode 1
http://www.dramabeans.com/2014/10/misaeng-episode-1/

Epsode 19
http://www.dramabeans.com/2014/12/misaeng-episode-19/

Also here is a search result which has links to all the recaps:
http://www.dramabeans.com/?s=misaeng

Just saw Episode 20 recap has been posted! I'm sure we'll be gushing there, too. Still might be good to include link to Episode 19 since we are racking our brains here to figure out how to share the love with him. :-)

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@ revlow Thanks for the notes. I guess I could start looking through all recaps for comments like those, but aside from that, how about we do this.

When the ep 20 recap gets posted, either you or pogo or I can start a comment thread asking fans to write comments for LSM, letting it be known that the msgs will be translated and posted in his fansite which is the place he's mostly likely to be able to read them.

I'm an avid fan who's been following him since GT. He's such a humble guy, and a passionate and dedicated actor. I have nothing but respect for him.

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Hi @tt. We keep crossing paths on comments! My last one is awaiting moderation, so maybe you will see this first. (Hope this makes sense.)

I meant post a “comment” calling on all LSM fans lurking here to write messages for him, not link, sorry.

Good idea!

...but comments seemed mostly about the character Mr. Oh and not the actor himself

I'm sure you're right.

I think it’d be nice to maybe start a comment thread dedicated to him (if we’re allowed to do it here) under ep 20 recap since it’s the last episode and all.

Great idea. I think we should be able to.

Hodoo is notorious for being difficult for fans to get in contact with, as they have no official website, twitter, facebook.. nothing.

Thanks for the info. Bummer. :-(

There’s an address posted in his fancafe but I’m not sure if I’m allowed to share it here. I have asked the mod if it’s okay and if I get an okay I’ll share it here if anyone wants it.

Cool! Thanks.

Sorry I’m not being so helpful, I’m not very good at organizing stuff like this, either.

Are you kidding?? You're the one with the insight and who's coming up with the brilliant ideas! Many thanks!

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@tt. Well, my comment #8.1.1.1.13 with all the links finally burped through the system. You can ignore that.

Episode 20 recap has been posted and comments coming in fast. I guess it's best to set this up as soon as possible? Here's a draft of what to say. Any other ideas? I'd like your feedback:

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In praise of Lee Sung-min

Some of us have been trying to come up with a way to send our appreciation to Lee Sung-min, how much we admire his brilliant acting. @tt, @pogo, and I thought it might be a good idea to start this thread. We are asking fans to write comments for LSM here. The messages will be translated and posted on his fansite, which is the place he’s mostly likely to be able to read them.

Thanks!

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What do you think?

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Geez! I just realized I'd poured my morning coffee, but forgot to put it by to my computer. I've been so wrapped up in this discussion that I forgot to drink it! It's 2:30 pm my time. :-)

Obviously my draft is from what you wrote. I'd really like your suggestions on how to phrase the whole thing.

I might cut down the last sentence to:

The messages will be translated and posted on his fansite, which is the place he’s mostly likely to read them.

Leave out "to be able" unless you say otherwise.

Seriously, let me know what you think. You've been the brains behind this. :-)

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@pogo, too. Any thoughts?

Maybe instead of the header "In praise of Lee Sung-min" "Calling All Fans of Lee Sung-min"?

Seriously, any feedback appreciated. We're all in this together!

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@ revlow Your draft looks good, getting rid of 'be able to' sounds better, also 'calling all fans', I think. Thanks!

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@revlow Just saw your comment posted under ep 20 recap. Looks all good. Hopefully many will join in.. Thanks!

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Hi @tt and @pogo,

I tweaked it and went ahead and posted it. I'm sure it's good enough, and I wanted to get it online before a lot of other comments pile up. Here's what I wrote:

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Calling All Fans of Lee Sung-min

Some of us have been trying to come up with a way to send our appreciation to Lee Sung-min, to let him know how much we admire his brilliant acting. @tt, @pogo, and I thought it might be a good idea to start this thread. We are asking fans to write comments for LSM here. The messages will be translated and posted on his fansite, which is the place he’s mostly likely to read them.

Thanks!

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I don't know where in the world you are located, so didn't think I should wait.

Thank you both!!! I so wanted to do this, but had no idea how. Thanks for getting the ball rolling. ♥

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Thanks tt! I feel reassured knowing that. Hopefully we get a good response. I bet we will. So much love here for him!

Thanks again. High five!

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Hi @tt. I don't know if you'll see this, since we're on to the Ep 20 recap. But if you do, what do you think of using this Ep 19 thread to continue our conversation about this? I think it might be a good idea.

Once we give it some time, if we don't get a lot of comments directly under our Ep 20 thread, I'll go through the rest of the postings to gather up any others about Lee Sung-min. I'll also be happy to comb the old episode recaps.

Anyway, if you see this, let's touch base here, okay?

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@revlow - sorry I saw this so late and couldn't help much, but you and tt are great for posting that link in ep 20! Thanks so much!

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Mmm. No, thank you. He's a cutie-patootie, but I would have to beat him if he was my husband; I couldn't live with that.

What I want is to work for Chief Oh. :)

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It struck me in this episode in particular how Baek-ki's boss is actually a really good guy. He seemed so awful in the beginning, he was strict (and perhaps his methods were too harsh at first) but mostly he was misunderstood by Baek-ki and us.

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I think of all Geu-rae's fellow interns, Baek-ki actually got the best boss, in many ways. Not many bosses would have been so calm in the face of Baek-ki's frustrated outbursts and the way he took things personally.

And Assistant Manager Kang likes women who are 'proper'. Of course he does, lol.

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In defense of Baek-ki, he was frustrated because Mr. Kang never explained why he was making him do all those things. I am exactly like that, if I don't know why, I get crazy. I think Mr. Kang only became a good boss after he understood his attitude would make BK quit.

About BK I also have to say I completely take back what I said in the first episode. I could not believe KHN would really choose this role if he had been offered a lead somewhere else but now I do. :)

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I understand his frustration, just saying that it isn't the best move to use that kind of tone with your boss when discussing problems. Especially not in a corporate environment in any Asian country!

Assistant Manager Kang took a really slow approach to Baek-ki and expected him to suss out his flaws/improve on them himself, and he should have communicated better, but I like that things improved rapidly once they got over it and Baek-ki started caring about his job.

I'm really glad Kang Haneul took this role. I love that he's so open to trying out different roles, and is enough of an actor to put his ego aside and not care whether they are lead roles or not. He did a fantastic job as Baek-ki, and I think as an actor, playing a character who is not 100 percent the 'good guy' helps expand his range.

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This episode made me laugh even amongst the tears and sorrow. I love Chief Oh's wife, 'besides every successful man stands a woman' (yes changed that from behind). I loved the comic relief of the drooling over the survey women, Poor Kang,but I love it that even his taste in women is serious, definitely my kind of guy. It broke my heard how it ended for Chief Oh in this episode. In the end it made for an even more brilliant finale, but this episode was like a punch in the guts.

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Honestly, I think the relationship within sales team 3 and extending out to the 3 interns, within the setting of OneInternational, is gold. There still so much material within the existing story set up, it's unfortunate, if Chief Oh or any of the others, is no longer with the company.

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It's unforunate he's no longer with One International, but then it struck me (actually a long time ago) that One International doesn't deserve a man as principled and good as Mr. Oh.

Wanting to get rid of him to save face – I get there is a cultural element in this, but I found One International and most of their employees rather cowardly. This easy blaming, particularly of people who reveal where something is rotten (not just now, but earlier in the drama with the guy that was deceiving the company)... found it really sad that many other employees preferred to accuse Sales Team 3 rather than acknowledging that they did what was morally right, not what was easy.

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Thank you for the recap! I don't think one TV character has ever impacted me the way Chief Oh has.

I watched this episode kind of a hurry, so just wondering, was the Executive Director in fact guilty of taking kickbacks? I don't really understand why he was transferred/demoted. Apparently he was transferred/demoted for giving excessive guanxi, but they didn't have any actual evidence that the ED was receiving illicit kickbacks. But I don't think giving excessive guanxi is "wrong" in itself...if taking a slimmer profit on one contract furthers the partnership, it seems within the range of executive discretion...I don't know.

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I don’t think one TV character has ever impacted me the way Chief Oh has.

I agree.

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I'm not too clear on it all - but maybe the 'excessive guanxi' was so generous that it started to cross over into 'bribes' side? So while the ED might not have received kickbacks from the business deals directly, he was irresponsibly using company assets, reaping benefits of the 'loyalty' (buying partisanship/support for him/his team) and then being promoted in that way?

So then instead of being audited/fired like Park for the kickbacks/false commissions, he was just moved to less prominent position so his 'supports' would be cut down/off. (? - i dunno)

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Ah, I think you hit the nail on the head. Thank you!

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"I think the show did an amazing job with the casting, as the creation of Puppy Geu-rae and Super Salaryman Newbie Guardian Angel Chief Oh could not have been complete without Im Shi-wan and Lee Sung-min. While the show did hint at possible love lines, we all know the main love line here was between these two, and I ship it."

Well said! I ship these two too.
I cried when I watched this episode, and I tear up once again when I read your recap, dramallama.
Such a heartbreak episode. I thought they were struggle enough for 18 episodes, but I was wrong.
And tvN got the money and the respect, I love the casting team. How the could find Lee Sung-min and Im Shi-wan? Both are match perfectly...
I rewatched Moon Embraces Sun once again, only Shi-wan's parts, and I knew he shows some improvement. Well done, Shi-wan!!
And I love you, Lee Sung-min, no, Super Salaryman Newbie Guardian Angel Chief Oh!

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The thing with Geu Rae, is that he wins spectacularly and loses spectacularly too. As opposed to some with small wins and losses. With the Jordan case, the project had a huge impact on the company, and with the case of one recorded phone call, it had a ripple effect that made two very senior people leave the company.

Not that I am blaming Jang Geu Rae, the genesis of this whole fracas began with the very shady and unscrupulous Executive Director, nevertheless, GR would not have blamed himself so bitterly for Chief Oh leaving the company even though it was inevitable given the course of action on this project. I understand the company giving Chief Oh the ultimatum because they had to 'save face' but it's an ugly lesson in Corporate life that one can be punished for doing the right thing.

What an extremely painful episode to watch that filled me with tears and heartache. It's unbelievable how much I relate and empathize with the characters in this drama. The thing with Misaeng, is that you're never quite sure if Sales Team 3 will have a win or a loss, so like real life, that while I hoped that they would score big with the China project, I was apprehensive that things would blow up in their faces, and that's exactly what happened. Although I never in a million years would have seen Chief Oh leaving one International.

On another note, I wonder what Seok Yeol saw with the camera that surprised him? Surely not just giving and receiving bribes as he was prepared for that.

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love what you say about Geu Rae winning and losing spectacularly. So many folks live mediocre lives. Not our geu rae... the road less traveled by.

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Road less travelled, April is the cruellest month... loved how they were integrating poetry into the final two episodes!

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The ending is poetic and arguably, maybe even the 'justice' is poetic too.

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yeah..poetic justice to mr. choi. wish his punishment is more severe. he never thought he'll be brought down by the kid he barely acknowledged when he welcomed the 4 newbies into the company's fold (ok, so GR unintentionally tripped and shoved him into his own trap). he sent that clueless, incompetent kid to the man he thought should kowtow to him. big mistake. Mr. Oh lead by example and GR learned to be a principled and dignified tradingman, like his idol. mr. choi must be kicking himself at that moment..

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Mr. Choi got away relatively lightly and a more severe punishment would have been better, but somehow, to me, he's still the big loser. He's a lonely tradesman, nothing like Mr. Oh who took on one newbie and gained four of them because he was open to guiding them all, whether directly under his tutelage or not. Four newbies that cried for him when he left (Baek-ki had tears in his eyes I'm so sure). And that's just the newbies. Who does Mr. Choi have to group hug and laugh silly with the way he does with Dong-sik and Geu-rae? The higher position, more money, a fancy car... it's all Mr. Choi's, but Mr. Oh is the man that has the real riches.

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@alua - None of the four except Seok-yul are given to showing emotion except in extreme circumstances, so the fact that they looked that way spoke volumes. Baek-ki's look was one of open misery if I've ever seen one.

And I do agree with you that the ED may remain a rich man even after the demotion, but he's lost. He may have more money, but Chief Oh has the hearts of so many - not least our newbies.

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@ Kennedy Rose , alua and pogo

I'm agreeing with what you've said. Choi reaped what he sowed. Suk Yeol's goodbye to Chief Oh was the expression that stayed with me. He crumpled up and looked like he wanted to give him a good, long hug. Me too,...I want to give them all a hug :( :)

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...For a boss and a coworker who aren’t even mine. Who are fictional.

So true. Your statement says it all about the beauty and power of good story telling. It's real.

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i agree. i mean, we are totally duped from the beginning! great writing indeed!

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We got duped a lot.

When Mr. Oh didn't want to accept Geu-rae at first because of his "connections".

When Baek-ki looked liked he'd be an evil schemer (and like an employee perfect at everything).

When Seok-yul just like he was just a womaniser and parasite.

When Mr. Kang seemed like the worst boss ever.

When Young-yi's team just seemed to have no good side to them at all.

Even the characters that didn't do a full turn-around, seemed nuanced and varied – not black and white,.

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Not to mention

- when Seok-yul just seemed like the chirpy office gossip with the dorky hair, who never got down about anything

(Manager Ma is still 100 percent nasty though)

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I didn't even realize I was crying until I felt the wetness in my cheeks. This drama is so subtle in its story telling, that it feels like its real life. Definitely the best drama of 2014. This show just hits you right in the kokoro.

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Darn it. I cried when I saw this live and subbed... and now I'm crying reading this. :'(

Thanks for the recap!

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Dramabeans hello!

Avid fan and follower. I have always felt thankful to this site and every single commentator. I have come to think of you all as friends and wish everyone a happy and safe holiday season.

Misaeng took my love of korean drama to new heights. I was insecure, anxious, ANGRY, extremely happy and then depressed...all in one hour. I was a new hire once more; faking it until i made it. For 20 episodes I finished work and started "working" with my other team, ST3.

Coffee Prince and My Name is Kim Sam Soon introduced me (about a decade ago) to this beautiful world but I must admit that I hadn't connected with a show to this degree since.

Misaeng...DB...thank you both!

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all of the dramas you mentioned are on my top 10 drama list :-)

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I really wish tvn would have an end of the year award show so that I can see these actors win awards immediately.

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If they don't, can we make one ourselves and send it to him?

What shape should it be? A slipper? A set of underwear and socks?

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To quote Geu-rae's slip of paper: YES! I say "The Golden Slipper" award (aka The Slippy), to be giving with a pair of socks and underwear. Oh, and a bottle of hangover medication for the next day.

@Thursdaynexxt -- you crack me up! :-D

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Hangover meds? Tick!

Rare deer honey? Optional! *wink*

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LOLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!

You're a hoot. :-)

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:D This is killing me :D Cant' stop giggling!Include the optional, do!!

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Can I say we all need a Chief Oh in our lives. Man this episode had me going through a box a tissue. I am so proud of this cast. This show was wonderful from beginning to end I hope we get a season two.

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ok. i'm a chicken. i was terrified of what's going to happen after Mr. Oh yelled GR's name out loud(i practically jumped). so, i take my own sweet time to psyche up before starting on ep. 19. i sneakily reading up stuff on the net.. even watched clips of the episode. big mistake.i saw the end scene and started to cry. hard.

so.. late last night i mustered the courage to watch it. and the tears just keep rolling throughout most of the episode. i'm grateful for the comedic moments(the Ha-Kang drooling) coz it gave me the opportunity to dry my face and blew my nose. but the waterworks began again the moment they gave mr. oh hints to resign. by the time we arrived at GR crying in his bedroom, i was sobbing hard. needless to say, my pillow was soaked, and i went to work this morning all puffy-eyed.

goodness, misaeng.. what have you done to me?!

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@ Kennedy Rose, did anyone in the office notice?

(I cleverly took days off to hide the evidence). But if they'd asked, I might have said, "My life's incomplete! So much is Misaeng! I wanna hang on but I have to let it go! Gah!" *wobbles away* :)

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cry me a riveeeerrrr :((((
i just can't. i can't help crying when i saw geu rae and dong shik cried so hard. even suk yeol tears and when young yi cried in silent, it really breaks my heart, and it hurt.

misaeng is definitely the best k-drama in 2014.

i need misaeng season 2 pleaaaase

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I've been keeping off from the last 2 episodes of Misaeng because I am not ready to cry yet.

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just do it, coby. though i must say, i'm a bit cautious abt what to expect in ep. 20. i know the ending is amazing but before smiles.. there will be tears. and crying at your workplace is a no-no. my colleagues labelled me as the ice maiden.. no amount of hardship n sadness can squeeze a tear out of me. yeah, right. along came Misaeng.. and i'm a slobbering fool. ugh. talk about dignity!

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I will tonight because I’m afraid that there will be no one that I can discuss it. cheers!

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Aww coby, just cry then come and tell us about it. It's therapeutic!! :D

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yeah, and we'll create a new lake made of tears! shall we named it Lake Misaeng? and over here, it's been raining for days..so i was kind of sensitive..you know..sad dramas..raining outside..feeling so..desolate.. heh

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@ Kennedy Rose
It's been raining over at my place too.... raining outside... re-watching ep 9...raining inside... sniff ...*still paddling,... are you with me? * Waaah!!!

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i'm looking for a life jacket, GB.. coz i totally gonna watch ep. 19 again..just in case i missed something. you know how Misaeng is.. sometimes little things can be meaningful.. so, yeah, i'll be paddling behind you!

btw, i just realized that GR has a new computer when i rewatched episode 18(or was it 17?). remember he used to have that old pc in his bedroom? now he has a flat screen desktop!heh...

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Yes! I live next to a very large lake. I shall re-christen it Lake Misaeng. Unfortunately, our snowfall has been well under what it should be the last couple years. But with all our tears, we shall raise the water up to normal levels… maybe then some.

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So many tears :'(

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MISAENG... Not just they cast the right actor for Gue Rae and Mr. Oh but also all the actors. Every one have their impact on this drama & of course on me. As I remembered I never skip any of scene of this drama & I'm very sure after this most of them will get many offers or maybe CF. I wished all of them will shine & succeed. Thank you dramabeans team for great recap that I always cry, smile, laugh, & feel the tension when your recaps.

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I agree with what you, eynay. The casting across the board was spot on. I didn't see a single one I would have changed.

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Yup, wonderful casting.

I also hope they enjoyed doing this drama as much as we enjoyed watching them – such a special, unique project that they were part of. They got to play characters that aren't like every other character in every drama. Might be hard for them to do their next project, I know it would be for me!

This drama has upped my expectations for kdramas, but I'm not too optimistic we'll be getting anything as good and real and as slice of life in a long while....

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Exactly. I came into this for Lee Sung-min, Im Shi-wan, Kang Haneul and Kang Sora, but I think I can speak for most of us when I say that the dark horses of this drama stole our hearts. (along with ISW & Co. of course!)

Like Seok-yul. And Chief Oh (never knew he would be this important to the drama, to the point of being its real hero). And everyone else. This drama's casting directors deserve a huge round of applause, as do its cast - they were all perfect.

PS: I believe Im Shi-wan has scored about 10 CF deals after Misaeng, and Kang Sora has six, with more in negotiation. And Byun Yo-han has new pictorials......I hope they all reap the good fortune of being in such a great drama. All of them!

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I will tonight because I'm afraid that there will be no one that I can discuss it. cheers!

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Thanks so much for the recap dramallama!

I love this show so much and its characters *sobs*. This drama spoke to me in ways that no other drama--or any other show for that matter--could. I recently graduated university and entered the job market a little late because I had an internship and Geu-rae hit me right where it hurt.

I didn't actually expect Chief Oh to have to take responsibility but it just adds to the realness of this drama. I'm happy Geu-rae was at least able to meet Chief Oh and learn so much from him; he'll carry that for the rest of his life (I dont know what Im saying I just finished the finale and my feels are all over the place so I'm gonna stop now.).

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Thanks dramallama!

(BTW I'm typing this while listening to Lee Hyori's "Don't cry" LOL!!)

My favourites bits:
1) Baek Ki entering the lift while Ha and Kang walked off in a trance behind the 2 ladies, and BK's total lack of understanding.

2) Kang putting Ha in his place when he claimed that to embarrass a newbie showed a lack of the basics. Since Ha had done the same to YY, he is slapping himself in the face!!

3) SY's expression when YY said she wanted to learn aegyo LOLOL!

4) SY coming out of the lift to hug GR and rushing back in, tripping over himself, still showing more concern for GR despite some shock over Sung that had him distracted.

5) Oh's totally deadpan wife who kept that expression even when saying she hated him (and yet supported him) thus making his decision to leave guilt-free where family was concerned.

6) Oh leaving his dirty slippers on GR's table, the symbol of the hard work of the office worker that GR sold to SY. A sort of passing of the baton to continue the race.

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this is why i have to watch the episode again.. i was too busy crying to really pay attention. my, my..never thought i see a "GR" dense look on BK's face!

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I forgot one more thing that I really liked. Chief Oh stood his family photo face up before he took out his resignation letter. As if he could finally let his family 'see' him doing something he is proud of. One of his cute quirks.

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yeah, you're right. though the reason he told GR on why he kept it face-down was hilarious.

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True. LOL.

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It was meant to be funny, but I'm thinking Chief Oh was just bluffing him. And, his wife had better not find out!!! :D

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3) - YES! that, and Baek Ki's face!

I've loved Young Yi's brand of deadpan humour all through the show!

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Everyone, what's your take on this?
How did Chun know that Geu Rae had found out Chief Oh was probably taking on the China deal to save him? Was there something I missed?

This was mentioned in a previous episodes posts - I've noticed this in the last few episodes too. The only person who actually ever had a lit and smoking cigarette was ED. Any guess as to significance? A smoking cigarette as tantamount to a smoking gun... or so much hot air? *cough cough*

*recites without puffing*
Cigarettes there are available to mortal man,
a stick or so held in mouth or hand,
Lowly wage earners though, light them none
Smoke rings beware, there can be only one!

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About Geu Rae finding out, I remember in the last episode he went up to the rooftop when Geu Rae and Chief Oh were having that conversation. It was then that Geu Rae said to Chief Oh that he was doing this project to save him, give him a full time position at One International.

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Thanks Nessie, that's right. I missed that.

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I wonder if Chun felt a bit guilty for asking ED Choi to help Geu Rae become full time. ED used that request as leverage to force Chief Oh into taking that project and using Geu Rae as a bargaining chip. I thought it was very underhand of him to invite GR to lunch. Wasn't it perfectly obvious that it was a threat?

And it was so sweet of all the employees in the company that no one blamed Geu Rae for making the phone call that triggered this whole mess, rather Chief Oh took responsibility and shouldered all the blame for doing his normal due diligence. How cool is that?

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Yes, although they did not show how Chun reacted to realising that GR had become a bargaining chip, it would probably have occurred to him, knowing that he himself was also being used by ED.

No matter how nobody blamed him, I guess GR would still feel partially to blame, or more than partially. His sobs and apologies at the end of the episode highlight his overall emotion. But his colleagues were understanding and fair and truthfully, it is the kind of mistake that I could easily have made myself!!!

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um, i thought mr. chun eavesdropped mr. oh and geu rae's rooftop conversation? he was going to the rooftop after he cancelled his intention of seeing the ED.. that's when he overheard GR and Mr. Oh talk..i mean, arguing.

the ED lit up his ciggies but i don't think i ever see him actually take a puff. did you?

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@ Kennedy Rose
Thanks, I found the part in Ep 18 where Chun heard the argument.

There was one Ep much earlier on where the ED had a cigarette that was smoking. I believe he was standing by the window in his office or at his table (sorry, bad memory). I cannot locate it now though. :(

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Yeah that's right. It must have been episode 17 or 18, when Chief Oh first went to him to let him know he was going to do the China project.

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There were some comments about unlit cigarettes back in an earlier Misaeng thread. I was sure that I'd seen them lit -- with all characters -- in the early episodes, but then no longer did. People commented that like knives being blurred out in violent scenes, Kdramas no longer show lit cigarettes. I don't know if that's true, but it sure is in Misaeng. I'm curious about the early Misaeng's -- maybe I'll look at some. I was sure all those initial scenes on the rooftop showed some real smoking, but I could be wrong.

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I'll have to check the earlier episodes as well. I know that for these last few episodes as they were filmed more recently in the cold, that a couple of cigarette scenes were teamed with misty breaths that could pass off as smoke LOL!.

Although it was not the intention of the show, I found it funny that the only one to ever successfully have a lighted cigarette (whether he inhaled from it or not) was ED Choi, as if it was the sign that his was the not-so-good character to watch out for. You know in some slang, when used as a verb 'smoke' means to conceal something ... yup that's the vibe I got.

And yet, he is not a black or even a dark grey character... a murky, smoky, grey perhaps? In the end, he kept his word and did not (or was it could not) unload blame on ST3 but took responsibility for his questionable business arrangements. Sadly there was no chance to flesh his character out, so all we have of him is that he chose profits over integrity and is left to live with the cost.

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This wasn't just a ficitonal character that had left me. I felt like I had just lost a mentor in my life. When Mr Oh came to his decision to leave, and all that happened afterwards the tears just wouldn't stop. When GR teared, the waterfalls were coming out of my eyes.

I think his wife agreed to let him leave One International is most likely because she must've realised/sensed, what they talked about before on him taking responsibility for someone wasn't going as well as he planned. Therefore something big must've happened.

Everytime the newbie team appears together, my heart just soars. Their worry over GR, and his trust in them will always be my favourite moments.

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Any one knows what this awards is about?

tvN Go
http://giftmap.interest.me/View/2761

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I google-translated the page. Clearest sentences I got were:

* Real Digital Awards tvNgo Awards!
* The award ceremony takes mobile apps go play!
* You can vote only tvNgo!

And the best I can tell from the poster is that the voting takes place Dec 18th - 31st. I don't have a smart phone, so I don't know what to do next for the app.

Side note: tvN annouced in August they were launching their own award ceremony by the end of the year. But then in October they said they wouldn't be doing it.

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Although this episode , I did get bored with the China payback episode as it rang quite similar to the Jordan case. Right down to Oh reminiscing his and Choi's god old days (that flashback was a misfit! in the flow of the episode) there were those bits that I liked. And yes, I did not get sentimental but infact was relieved that when Gur Rae realizes that he is not always right, even when what he considers to be taking a high and right moral stand. Business isnt that and the price he pays - Mr Oh resigning - was pitch perfect. He had to experience that kind of loss for him to realize that he is still very much a rookie in the biz wrld. I liked it. No tears from moi :)

The bits:

- Kang and Ha turning and walking straight back into the office as though it was 'the most appropriate thing to do. Damn any meeting that comes in the way"

- Now, we don't know much about Kang but the fact that he is totally fallen for another senior colleague , just in this brief scene, gives a smooth back story for Kang. He is aware of girls in his workplace how ever stiff he may portray himself. It was revealing another layer of his character. Nicely done.

- Ha ogling at the newbie - man this guy in a workplace is so out there drooling. He needed a slap to recover and reign himself.

- YY liking the newbie and why. You go girl!

- Gue-rae torment nearly through out the episode. Liked! He deserved it.

- Chun massaging Kim back's as he sobs and then sighing. It was so empathetic and honest. That guy is always on the fence but he knows what is valuable.

- Oh tells Mrs Sung to never think of resigning only to put in his papers in two episodes down.

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I have to say I was half-expecting Mr. Kang to say that the "proper" woman was his wife or something (which would have been quite hilarious).

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You know, I think he might have been a bachelor from a scene in Episode 17, when the assistant managers had gone out drinking and they were trying to deal with the drunken Dong-Sik. Had to look this up here at DB. What odilettante wrote:

As the assistant managers prepare to go their separate ways, they try to figure out who will be responsible for the drunken Dong-shik, who’s still in prime fighting spirit even though he can barely walk. They all have their excuses as to why they can’t take him home with them, and it’s hilarious how they all immediately look to the only sober one, Assistant Manager Kang, who can only come up with the excuse that his house isn’t clean. Ha!

So they end up at a hotel room, instead — all of them except for Assistant Manager Sung, that is. Dong-shik’s passed out on the hotel bed, and the rest of them reminisce about how close they used to be when they were all newbies together. Assistant Manager Kang refuses to join them as they all sprawl out on the king-sized bed, saying that he’ll be leaving soon. But he still sticks around as everyone falls asleep together, he in a chair and everyone else on the bed. Super cute.

It surprised me. I'd taken Kang for being married... but "messy house" = "bachelor", no?

Maybe I'm wrong. Did he ever mention a wife? Of course he could have had a "something" as you said alua... and I agree it would have been funny if he'd said wife/girlfriend was the “proper” woman.

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Oh, there was no indication of him being married at any point...

I'm not sure the messy house was true though. Given his like for a "proper" woman and his general demeanour, I'd guess he's super-neat as well – more like that was his roundabout way of saying "if a drunk guy (or four of them) come over to my place, it'll end in disaster". I'm guessing he likes his private space to be private. That's why I never thought less of him for not joining the rest of the bunch on the bed – people have pretty different personalities, some will sleep over at a friend's and share a bed if that's all there is, others definitely need a separate room or they'll never sleep over. Kind of like some people will share a plate of food or a glass, but others never would.

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And I dont understand Baek-gi at times. What is he good at? I mean, SY, YY and GY have shown distinct capabilities (and not as well) at work and managing relationships - both professional and personal. All I see is Beak-gi's struggle with work and people as he puts himself in some spot that he is sure of himself. Like the actor's portrayal of this character but what is he naturally like - specific +vs and -vs?

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I think Baek-ki was meant to be the example of the one who was let in for his specs, but was severely lacking in the other skills that being part of a company requires - putting his ego aside, learning to work as part of a team, being open to correction.

What he has is his language skills (German, we see him taking calls) and a certain degree of propriety - like the time when he blocked nasty Manager Ma from throwing hot coffee in Young-yi's face - but he's working on the rest, and I think it's obvious that he's come a long way from the newbie he was in the beginning.

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He strikes as one of those is academically excellent, but struggling when it comes to putting theory to practice.

Unlike Young-yi, Seok-yul and Geu-rae, he seems to have had little chance to learn how to "read" people – both Young-yi's and Geu-are's 'disadvantaged' backgrounds that forced them to start taking on lowly jobs and take charge of their lives, and Seok-yul's factory experience with his family allowed all three of them to get real life skills involving either dealing or working with others. Baek-ki, I imagine, spend a lot of time studying by himself, perfecting book knowledge but with never too much a chance to apply things or work with people (or at least people different from himself – different 'class', educational background, etc.).

Curiously enough, his lack of practical knowledge even extends to girls – remember how awkward he was when engaging with Young-yi at first. Clearly crushing on her but not knowing how to approach someone like her at all.

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There was this scene in one episode, when Baek-gi is the first to come to office and how he likes the atmosphere when no one is around. It reminded him of the clean store outside, near his home that he passed by every morning, to school. I thought he was always a working class home kid and hence his being so clueless and struggling came as a surprise.

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That scene with the four newbies lined up to see off Chief Oh.....I don't know which of them broke me, but I admit it, I cried. I've seen dozens of melos containing everything from parental deaths to fatal illnesses, but none of them moved me quite as much as something that could be as everyday as someone quitting his job. Because it was more than that for Seok-yul, Baek-ki, Young-yi and most of all, Geu-rae - it's like they are losing a father (particularly poignant considering what we know of their fathers and how Geu-rae lost his).

And in his own way, Chief Oh took Geu-rae into his heart almost as a son, despite the constraints imposed by their relationship being a professional one - a constraint I first felt when the issue of Geu-rae's contract renewal came up. Being in a company like this is hard on him, in so many ways - his family life, his integrity, his work are all compromised in the end, but he wanted to have the consolation of doing right by Geu-rae, and he didn't even get that. I understand why he badly needs out of One International, but it's a much worse place for everyone without him - for Dong-shik, Geu-rae, the other newbies, even stoic Chief Chun. And for Geu-rae to be the inadvertent catalyst for the ousting of both ED and Chief Oh........that poor boy must feel so bad.

(but I do love Chief Oh's wife, both for her banter and her easy acceptance of what her husband needed to do. She was the person most directly impacted by him choosing to leave his job, and for her to coolly start assessing what he needed to use his employee discounts for before he lost them....genius).

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I've watched my fair share of dramas, but there's definitely something (everything) special about Misaeng. I'm really going to miss it. Many aspects of the story and how the cast portray their characters are so realistic, at times I felt like I was watching a reality show rather than a drama.

I watched The Attorney the other night after finishing Misaeng, just to get another dose of Siwan's acting, not realising that Lee Sung Min's also in that movie. I nearly squealed with delight seeing the two of them on screen together in something else.

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I’ve watched my fair share of dramas, but there’s definitely something (everything) special about Misaeng.

There really is! I've seen some people say it's got the feel of a jdrama, and I suppose the concentration on the office setting and lack of the usual kdrama tropes supports that assumption. But I don't quite believe it - there's a warmth to the story that's closer to the heart of a kdrama than a jdrama, just expressed in a very different way from most kdramas.

Watching it all unfold has been a bit like watching someone do a painting with really delicate brushstrokes - so much subtlety and richness in what is supposed to be popular entertainment.

(I love how much love Lee Sung-min gets here. And Im Shi-wan, too, I always knew he'd do well in this role)

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I think it's the slice of life genre that is driving the j-drama comparisons. This is why it's more like a j-drama than k-drama to me. And the fact that all the usual tropes and stock characters are absent. The fact that we got through a story that, despite not being a thriller or a detective drama, without a love line and a love triangle. In j-drama that option is at least there (even if it's frequently not taken) even when something is not a thriller/detective story, in k-drama that's just so out of the ordinary....

I don't know, to me j-dramas can have just as much warmth as k-dramas. I know you are not the first one to say this, but I can't say it's a statement I can relate to.

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@alua - I agree that the slice-of-life and also the subtlety of it, tend to drive the comparisons.

And certainly there are jdramas that do not lack warmth (Nobuta wo Produce, Nodame, Honey & Clover being just a few of my favourites)- it's just that none of the dramas I've seen that involve a professional setting of any kind, with work as the focus and not romance, have had it the way Misaeng does.

Or maybe that's the result of having 20 episodes to explore various characters and aspects of office life, versus the 9 or 10 jdramas usually get.

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"Watching it all unfold has been a bit like watching someone do a painting with really delicate brushstrokes – so much subtlety and richness in what is supposed to be popular entertainment."
Spot on!!
BTW can you refer me some good j-dramas?
Thanks in advance.

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Oops Sorry. By mistake I have posted here.

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xxxHolic and Border are two of my favourites without romance. They're also quite recent (2013 and 2014 respectively). Gokusen is another favourite.

I'm also currently enjoying Nobunaga Concerto, which is a jidaigeki (period drama).

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When I first started watching it, I described it to my friends as being jdrama-esque too, for its understatedness. But, I agree with you that it has the heartwarming quality that I find more present in kdramas.

I loved that it kept me guessing ; I could never be sure that everything would go right for Sales Team 3 and our newbies because in life, good guys don't always win.

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Exactly, the beginning in Jordan was all that made me sure that Geu-rae wouldn't be a sad lost puppy forever, but we had no idea if all of Sales Team 3 was going to make it to that end together, or even in One International.

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I've never watched a jdrama before so I can't compare, but I do watch a LOT of American/British television, and to be honest, Misaeng is the first kdrama I've seen that I think could stand up to American prestige dramas... sadly, I think if it were on American TV, it wouldn't have gotten the good ratings it did in Korea (because the better the show is the more underrated it is here unfortunately), but it definitely would have been critically acclaimed

It reminds me so much in its heart and realness to my favorite TV show of all time, Friday Night Lights.

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At the risk of playing devil's advocate, I think the Executive Director was also a victim this episode.

Sure, he's coldly ambitious and selectively forgetful, but he's worked hard for the company for 28 years and generated lots of profit for it, as he said. He got shafted sideways by the company to minimise damage. So the ultimate "baddie" here is actually the company, and everyone gets put through the corporate wringer regardless of moral right or wrong. (Of course the ED is manipulative and calculating, and lacking loyalty - but that just highlights the reasons why we love Chief Oh and Dong Shik and Geu Rae).

Btw, love Jung Soo Young's cameo as the senior work inspector - very fitting rep as the National Ahjumma - and she's even got an admirer! Go South Korea's Ahjumma Boo Mi!

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I can see where you're coming from with that - ED Choi, in the end, is treated as just another cog in the wheel to be spat out when he's no longer getting things quite right (though the question of victimhood becomes fuzzy, when you think he might have been receiving 'rebate' from the agent deal). I imagine the loss of face probably hurt him worse than any financial consequences of his ouster (because he still remains a rich man, of course).

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Do we know whether Choi really got any money from that specific deal? From what I've seen, it might have been just a "normal" guanxi management investment.

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The question is certainly raised, but put aside by Chief Oh because he has no proof. Whether it's true or not, I think that's open to interpretation.

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I don't think so, not from this project, since Chief Oh decided to delete the "agent" clause from the final contract version. (Not to mention, I think it never got signed anyway, since the Auditors from HQ swooped in like stormtroopers and Poshin backed out?)

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What this drama does so well is show that every individual is really just a person trying to do what he thinks he should, to get on. On every part of the corporate ladder, the image one needs to portray is that one is contributing to the company, but when punishment is to be meted out, getting on comes down to finding a scape goat and protecting oneself.

ED this time around either could not hand off blame to ST3 who had wisely remained untainted, and/or he didn't because he had promised Oh that he would take responsibility. He has some honor left, if so.

ED was also played by the CEO who had quietly been allowing him to continue to build connections without giving official endorsement to his methods. The company and (CEO too probably) had gained from Choi's efforts, but when things became sticky it was Choi alone who was punished. Sad but true to life.

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Hi. At least a couple people above said they wished they could find a filmography for Byun Yo-han. This one at a fan site is the best I've found so far:

http://hiddenskylight.blogspot.com/2014/11/byun-yo-han-profilepictures-get-to-know.html

Scroll down a bit.

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Ooh, "Trap" looks interesting and intense! Must look it up!

Thanks for the link, @revlow!

On a lighter note: looks like he's played a lot of dropout, down-and-outer types to date, so it looks like his wardrobe in Misaeng is the best so far?! I hope he gets to keep some of those shirts - he can really pull them off! :)

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Wow! Just saw the MV of Im Si Wan's ballad, 'Be Alright' on Soompi on his character as Geu Rae with so many nice scenes of Misaeng. Sounds so good too. I'm looking out for the soundtrack and of course for the subs of the lyrics. :)

Here's the link to the Soompi page:
http://www.soompi.com/2014/12/23/im-si-wan-tells-geu-raes-story-in-mv-for-be-alright-from-misaeng-ost/

Makes me miss Misaeng all over again!

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The song's on iTunes.

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Guanxi seems to be what we call "Clout" in Chicago. That Alderman will get that business a city contract if they give a job to the nephew of the neighborhood grocer. That kind of thing. Clout used to be the ONLY way things were done in Chicago. Now it's more frowned upon but still extremely common.

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"Endure and try to win against all odds." - Chief Oh

"When everything seems to be going against you, remember that the airplane takes off against the wind, not with it." - Henry Ford

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Watched this episode during my lunchbreak hence unable to totally bawl my eyes out. But it is a sad situation of life.The whistleblower is the one who gets punished.
I hope for drama sake Chief Oh is ok.But in a real life situation this won't have a happy ending if he wants to look for an office job.The stigma and sadly he has a family too.Real life this can go downward spiral quickly.

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Coming back to give this drama the five star rating it rightfully deserves.

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I would give it 10!!! If I could!! I wish I was around when that fan letter was being accumulated for Lee Sung Min. He sure made a middle-aged manager with panda eyes and a paunch one of the most attractive characters ever.

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