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Six Flying Dragons: Episode 35

I never thought I’d start to have anxiety about a show eventually ending thirty-five hours in, but here we are, officially closer to the end than we are to the beginning. And it’s still just so good, or even better than it was before, so can anyone blame me for freaking out a little bit that all this awesomeness will end? What do you mean, it’s too soon?

Okay, I’ll save the rest for when it might actually be called for in several weeks(!). For now, we’re given an epic lead-in to one of the most charged moments in Goryeo’s history, with Bang-won facing a terrible decision. Will he kill, or be killed? And if you know Bang-won, you already know the answer.

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EPISODE 35 RECAP

Bang-ji updates Jung Do-jeon on the situation involving Lee Seong-gye’s fall from a horse, as well as the exile of everyone close to their cause by Jung Mong-joo.

He offers to spring Jung Do-jeon from his place of exile by force, only to be politely rejected. Their cause can’t be obtained by force, or else they would’ve just stormed the palace and usurped the throne already. Whether Bang-won will be able to save his father and take him back to the capital is up to fate now.

But in a stroke of luck, Jung Do-jeon receives a royal command to be transferred to the capital. Meanwhile, Bang-won prepares to defend his unconscious father from the assassins out to kill him with only a dagger, though he thankfully doesn’t end up using it when they fail to find him.

Moo-hyul’s still shaken by his failure to protect the palanquin against Sa-kwang, since it would’ve meant Lee Seong-gye’s death had he been inside. Despite Sa-kwang’s mask, he may have recognized her—or it was she who recognized him, which could be why she didn’t kill him.

As Bang-won laboriously pushes the cart with his father in it back up the slope, a straggler from Jung Mong-joo’s assassin group comes upon him. He doesn’t believe Bang-won’s claims that he’s just a poor farmer, and when he draws his sword, Bang-won looks past him in surprise.

It’s the oldest trick in the book, since Bang-won uses the man’s momentary distraction to grab him from behind, clamp his hand over his mouth, and slit his throat. Cold, but necessary.

By pure happenstance, Bang-won comes upon a lone swordsman/scholar in the middle of the forest and pleads for him to help. He shelters both father and son in his humble home, with Bang-won lying that he’s on the run from their landlord’s men, having not paid his taxes due to caring for his sick father.

Whether the scholar believes him or not is up for debate, but when the fur-clad assassins come looking, he claims that no father and son pair are hiding in his home. The assassins take a look anyway, finding nothing.

Having overheard that the assassins are looking for Lee Seong-gye, the scholar returns to the room where Bang-won and his father are hiding. And much to Bang-won’s surprise, he draws his sword against the prone figure of Lee Seong-gye, revealing that he’s from the Jo Family of Yangju.

His teacher is a follower of Jung Mong-joo, he adds, which means he knows very well that Lee Seong-gye sent the revered Lee Saek into exile. He also knows about Jung Do-jeon’s plans to ruin their country, so his allegiance is pretty much set.

Bang-won can’t help but let out a rueful chuckle, taking the scholar aback. He can’t help but find this situation funny, what with all the bad luck that’s befallen his father lately, to the point where his life is being threatened by a rural scholar.

“Kill him,” Bang-won finally says. Then, standing, he adds that if the scholar really has the guts to kill a hero of Goryeo, why not do it? If he does, Bang-won warns viciously, he’ll bring the entire power of his father’s private army down upon the Jo Family of Yangju and he’ll gladly wipe every generation of their family tree off the face of the earth.

If the scholar is as Confucian as he claims to be, then he should renounce Lee Saek, who was against the land reform and the reformation of the Buddhist temples. The nation that his father plans to establish would be a Confucian nation, not a military state like the scholar believes.

Before Bang-won can launch into even more heated rhetoric, the scholar cuts in with a simple, “I’ll follow you.” That was an easy sell, wasn’t it? When he puts his sword away, Bang-won reacts by holding his dagger to his throat.

The scholar, in a very detached sort of way, tells Bang-won that it won’t be a good idea to kill him when he’ll need his help escaping from the mountain.

While Sa-kwang reports to the king and Jung Mong-joo that she couldn’t find and kill Lee Seong-gye, Young-kyu and Moo-hyul worry since they haven’t been able to find both father and son either.

They’re interrupted when a mourning party comes through, carrying the coffin of the deceased like modern-day pallbearers, only for Moo-hyul to openly gape when he recognizes Bang-won amongst the mourners. The scholar is with him too, and he hurriedly explains that his father is safe in the casket. Ahh, smart.

Bang-won thanks the scholar for helping him out, and asks for his name before he goes. The scholar introduces himself as JO MAL-SAENG (Choi Dae-hoon, in a role that should be familiar to Tree With Deep Roots fans), a name which Bang-won finds funny. (Malsaeng means troublesome.)

News of Lee Seong-gye’s secret capital re-entry doesn’t stay secret for long, as it reaches Jung Mong-joo and Nameless at the same time. The king is obviously worried that Lee Seong-gye might recover and take vengeance, so Poeun volunteers to find someone who can assess the situation.

Moo-hyul spots him and Sa-kwang, choosing to follow from a safe distance until they disappear into sinister Minister Woo’s house. Sa-kwang confronts him for following her, and Moo-hyul just decides to be forthcoming by asking her if she’s the Cheok Sa-kwang.

After a brief back-and-forth over who’s right between Jung Mong-joo and Lee Seong-gye, Sa-kwang seriously considers killing Moo-hyul in order to protect her identity. Completely unaware that she’s reaching for her sword, Moo-hyul saves himself by thinking out loud, “You don’t look like you’d kill anyone, though.”

She admits that though she hasn’t had much experience in the world of warriors, if he chooses to fight her, he will die. It’s not a threat so much as a plea, and Moo-hyul empathizes with the struggle he knows she’s having over killing people.

“You don’t like it, do you?” he asks knowingly. Why else would she have used the back of her blade to fight the palanquin guards in order to avoid killing them unless she didn’t want to kill people? He knows the feeling, but guesses that it’s worse for her.

“You’re right,” Sa-kwang admits. “I hate killing people. So… let’s not meet each other again.” Aw yay, she’s going to let him live even though he knows who she really is.

The situation with Lee Seong-gye’s health is looking dire, which is what the king can only hope for since Jung Do-jeon and his followers are being brought to the capital for execution. If he were to pull through, though…

Yeon-hyang’s job in Nameless is just to state the obvious now, so all she says is that the fate of the country depends on Lee Seong-gye’s health. In order to avoid word getting out, Bang-won “invites” the attending doctor to stay until his father wakes up.

He tasks Gab-boon and Grandma with fooling any interested parties into believing that Lee Seong-gye is on the path to recovery by publicly buying health tonics and his favorite wine, which eventually makes it back to Jung Mong-joo.

Jung Mong-joo is smart though, and believes that this could be what Lee Seong-gye’s family wants them to think. Plus, there’s the fact that the doctor hasn’t left the manor yet, which may mean that they’re trying to hide Lee Seong-gye’s true condition.

As everyone waits to see if the great general will pull through, Moo-hyul finds himself conflicted by Sa-kwang saying that it didn’t matter who was right or just when it came to Jung Mong-joo and Lee Seong-gye. “Why doesn’t it matter?” he thinks to himself. “I’m fighting for the world I believe in.”

He brings his existential crisis to Boon-yi when he asks, “We’re the just ones, right? The man called Poeun betrayed us, right?” It’s then that he confesses he used to think of these deep issues in too simple a manner before, since at first, he would just go along with things if he thought success would come of it.

But once he began to understand the world Team Joseon was trying to create, he began to fight for that cause because he truly believed in it. His worry now is that the people they may have to face from now on might not be all that bad (he’s specifically thinking of Sa-kwang), so what should they do?

Boon-yi thinks back to what her mother said about having the resolve necessary to abandon those most precious to her for her cause, and repeats that advice to Moo-hyul. “Do you have that kind of resolve?” he asks, only for her to reply that she isn’t sure.

Even if she isn’t, she’ll have to be unless she plans to abandon their cause. Moo-hyul has even more reason to make that resolution, she believes, since holding a sword means he’ll get into kill-or-be-killed situations. “Let’s not die,” she adds cheerfully. Good talk.

Filled with grim determination, Moo-hyul approaches Master Hong to ask him if there’s any weakness in the Goksan swordsmanship method. He answers no. When he asks if he’d lose in a fight against Cheok Sa-kwang, Hong says yes. Moo-hyul: “Would I die?” “You probably would,” comes the answer.

In that case, Moo-hyul says, he’ll probably die soon. He tells Master Hong about Sa-kwang cutting the palanquin in half with one sword stroke, which his teacher recognizes as a signature move the great Cheok Joon-kyung used to cut both rider and horse in half on the battlefield.

Master Hong’s advice should Moo-hyul run into Sa-kwang again? “Run,” he says. But Moo-hyul won’t do that, so the only option he leaves Master Hong with is to tell him any weakness he found in the Goksan method, or else he’ll surely die.

But Master Hong gives him the exact same answer he gave Gil Sun-mi when he says there is no weakness. However, just because there’s no weakness in the technique doesn’t mean there can’t be weakness in the person who wields it.

Jung Mong-joo wants to take the risk of executing Jung Do-jeon, Officer Nam, and Jo Joon despite not knowing whether Lee Seong-gye will recover. Team Joseon looks to Bang-won for guidance on how to stop it from happening, so he has to come up with a plan, and fast.

Because the king is reluctant to do it, Jung Mong-joo asks to be given the royal command to follow through with the executions, promising to take all responsibility should things go south. Though it seems like he’s lying when he assures the king that it’ll be fine, because Lee Seong-gye won’t be able to do anything to him.

Faced with a terrible decision to make, Bang-won takes some time to be alone, which is when he’s visited by a hallucination of Minister Hong. “Why do you pretend to be suffering?” the bloodied specter asks. “Or does this mean that you truly are in pain?” He effectively puts a voice to Bang-won’s inner monologue as he says:

“How long Goryeo will last now hangs upon how long Poeun lives. Does your heart not beat faster because you wish to find the honor of bringing Goryeo to an end? The one who ends Goryeo will be the one who opens the door for Joseon. Also, you will become the one who killed Poeun, the great Confucian scholar and respected leader of the sadaebu.

Accept who you are. Honestly, there is something that is tugging at your heart. Of the things that could happen to you after you kill Poeun, you think to yourself, ‘What if my position becomes smaller?’ ‘What if by heading down this road, I ruin the foundation for my successors?’ Furthermore, are you not hesitating out of fear that you will become lonely after the world turns away from you?”

Judging by Bang-won’s angry reaction to his own thoughts, everything Minister Hong said likely rings true. This is the state Boon-yi finds him in, though she proves keener than expected when she catches onto the meaning behind Bang-won asking, “Are you on my side?”

“Are you going to kill him?” Boon-yi asks, stopping him in his tracks. And then, more surprisingly, she says that she’s still on Bang-won’s side. “That’s right, I will kill Poeun,” Bang-won answers resolutely. However, in order to accomplish that, they’ll need to get him out of the safe confines of the palace.

Luckily, he won’t have to try very hard—Jung Mong-joo and bodyguard Sa-kwang have just arrived at his father’s doorstep. Poeun sends Sa-kwang out to wait while he’s invited inside to see the general himself. Bang-won says nothing, seemingly reveling in this golden opportunity.

But first, Lee Ji-ran confronts Jung Mong-joo over sending assassins to kill Lee Seong-gye. Poeun’s not afraid of him since even the great general couldn’t bring himself to kill him, which is when Ji-ran tries one last-ditch effort to convince him off the path he’s taken.

With tears brimming in his eyes, Ji-ran tells him the story of how he became Lee Seong-gye’s sworn brother, a stark contrast to how they’d once been enemies on the battlefield when he fought for the Jurchens. He tried to kill Lee Seong-gye and was captured, but instead of being killed, Lee Seong-gye worked to persuade him instead.

Promising to protect his tribe and his people, Lee Seong-gye took him in and called him brother. “Our hyung-nim is that kind of person,” Ji-ran adds. He knows that if Jung Mong-joo were to change his mind right now, Lee Seong-gye would forget everything and take him in as a brother, because that’s the kind of man he is.

His heartfelt plea has no effect on Jung Mong-joo, but his character evaluation proves true when Lee Seong-gye finally regains consciousness… only to chastise Bang-won for even suggesting his plan to kill Jung Mong-joo. He will not allow it.

Seemingly chastened, Bang-won has to be the one to invite Poeun into his father’s room. He eavesdrops from outside as Jung Mong-joo defends his assassination attempt to the man who survived it, claiming that he only did it for Goryeo.

Outside, Moo-hyul approaches Sa-kwang, who cautions him even now to just run away. Moo-hyul only stands straighter as he declares that he’s given it much thought, and won’t be going anywhere.

Unafraid and unflinching, Lee Seong-gye puts his heart and soul into this last chance to convince Jung Mong-joo of their cause. Goryeo, he says, cannot protect its people. He eliminated those people like General Choi and Lee In-gyeom because they did nothing when they could have done something, and perpetuated the broken system they live under now.

Jung Mong-joo doesn’t deny this point, but wonders why he can’t just continue to protect the people as a general. Lee Seong-gye: “I am saying that we can live better lives and protect them by building a new nation!” To this, Poeun just shakes his head: he’s reaching for justification for his actions.

“Do you think I would do this because I am vying for the throne?” Lee Seong-gye returns gravely. “Are you not well aware that I am doing this because this is what should be done?” Though he doesn’t understand politics still, he understands dreams, specifically the ones they shared with each other when they drank together at Dohwa Manor.

“My dream… my dream is… to make the aspirations you and Sambong share come true. It is to protect that!” He all but begs Jung Mong-joo to reconsider, which sends him into a coughing fit. Bang-won rushes in to see blood staining the sheets, and helps to lay his father back down.

He sends a positively murderous look toward Jung Mong-joo, who gracefully bows out. This is far from over.

Jung Mong-joo gives the order for Jung Do-jeon’s execution the next morning, again leaving no one but Bang-won for everyone to turn to. And this time, Bang-won’s decision will not be changed: “Poeun… Poeun. I’m going to have to kill him.”

As the camera jumps from Jung Do-jeon, to Lee Seong-gye, to the king, and on down the line, Yeon-hyang narrates her thoughts as to whether this night spells the end for Lee Seong-gye. If loyalty, ambition, good fortune, or even peculiar plans factored into the result, how much easier would it be to take on the tasks of this world, she wonders.

“Fate is determined by even more trivial things than that,” she adds to herself. “Because fate is like a petulant child, and because you do not know what will cause its mind to change. And though I fear the morning, it also excites me. This night will be the longest night in the history of Goryeo.”

Bang-won and his men prepare their weapons for battle, and go out into the night. It’s with grim determination that Young-kyu takes up a mace, and Bang-ji his sword.

They’re out for Jung Mong-joo, who’s only flanked by Cheok Sa-kwang, the greatest sword fighter alive.

 
COMMENTS

In a case like this, where history is the absolute biggest spoiler, Six Flying Dragons is doing the right thing by immortalizing these well-known events and infusing them with its own style. It’s giving everyone the gravitas they deserve while giving us and Jung Mong-joo one last chance for reason. We know everyone involved, and the parts they have to play in the trying times to come—but most of all, we know Bang-won’s rage, and the necessity for what he’s prepared to do.

Perhaps most telling is the fact that though he’s been alone in his scheming as of late, with his thoughts going too dark for him to trust anyone to understand, this darkest and most historically heinous of plans was unilaterally approved by everyone on Team Joseon. Bang-won may have been the one to make the ultimate decision, but this isn’t a burden he’ll have to bear in complete loneliness. He doesn’t have to worry that no one’s on his side, because in this case, everyone who matters is (except for Jung Do-jeon, who doesn’t know.)

On second thought, it’s not just Jung Do-jeon he’ll have to contend with once this is all over, but his own father. Bang-won’s got the younger vote, and though it is easier to beg forgiveness than ask permission, he could risk losing the two authority figures he needs most in his life. Even discounting the fact that he’s trying to distance himself from Jung Do-jeon, he knows better than anyone that if he dies, their cause will die with him.

So maybe I had it all wrong thinking that Bang-won wouldn’t be so alone. Maybe he’s actually taking one for the team, and risking everything to do so. Minister Hong, representing Bang-won’s current state of mind, said it best when he listed all the fears Bang-won had going into his big decision. He diverged from Jung Do-jeon because he wanted more power, but in killing Jung Mong-joo, he could lose any hope he ever had at gaining it in the first place.

And that, above all else, scares Bang-won the most. But while no one would argue that being powerless isn’t one of Bang-won’s biggest fears, there’s one other that keeps rearing its ugly head: the fear of being alone. His two greatest fears unfortunately have solutions that cannot coexist, because it’s always loneliest at the top.

 
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Show, I love you. Instead of easy answers and easy heroes, it continues to allow everyone to be messy, complicated, and human. And it does all of this within an elegantly structured plot that knows exactly how to create builds and to set up and land payoffs. It's a joy to watch a show written with this level of technical prowess.

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I cannot agree with you more!

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FREAKIN AWESOME SHOW!!

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amazing episode ahhh

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Wow... Just wow ..

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Saying this without watching ep 36 yet.. they built up for a moohyul vs. sagwang fight this whole episode yet it was bangji whom bangwon brought with that night?? Come on.

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Well, after watching ep 36.. im fine now. Also, it was sad.....

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Ah yeah I was grumpy when I saw the stills showing CSG vs LBJ while all this while we were given the "clues" that MH would face her. But after watching episode 36 I felt better :D Moohyul baby is growing up, and sometimes growing up is painful.

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I kinda feel like what they(moohyul or the writers) did is cliche to a romantic drama, idk.

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Yea it felt like they were trying to go that route. He is the only dragon without a love interest.

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Han Ye-Ri is such a fantastic movie actress. I thought she was just doing a cameo appearance but I'm glad that she is hanging around for a couple more episodes.

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@kiara idk, the king is alive and sagwang clearly dears the king. she might die for him

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I know she loves the king but I think Moo-hyul was crushing on her when they first met. He knows that she is like him. They do what they have to do even though they hate killing people.

It'll probably end up being one sided on Moo-hyul's part and it might get to a point where he will have to make a choice whether to kill her or save her.

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@kiara

*spoiler-he did have a moment like that in ep 36, but chose to save her, hence the battle between the 2 plus 1(lbj vs csg plus moohyul as an extra) wasnt over..

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I guess I need to go and watch it now that it's up. Thank you Commentcomment.

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I've been grumpy since eps 6 when they skipped Moo-hyul. It's been way too long, it better be glorious when it happens.

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+1000

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When that happens, I'll be here screaming WARRIOR MOO-HYUL's name till I get banned by JB and GF lol.

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Spoiler (TWDR)

I think Bang Ji will lure Sa Gwang away from Poeun so Bang-won and Young-kyu can kill him. They wouldn't be able to kill Poeun with Sa Gwang guarding him.

It's the same thing that Bang-won did in order to kill Sambong. He lured Bang Ji away from Sambong by having his men threatened Yeon Hee. Bang Ji left Sambong alone to go and save Yeon Hee and Bang-won was able to kill Sambong.

Moo-hyul will still face Sa Gwang later and she might die protecting the king.
I hope Moo-hyul will figure out a way to defeat her on his own. Maybe it's not about skills but his strength.

I hope he will get his dragon episode before Joseon is officially established. It doesn't make sense if he gets it after.

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I already watched episode 36.. it wasnt exactly like that.

**spoliers for sfd36---they, bangwon and group got seperated into 2 groups, with jmj, it was like you said and history spoiled, but with the swordsmen battle, it was different **spoiler lbj vs csg but moohyul helped lbj, but the battle didnt end. i kinda think theyre trying to give moohyul a loveline (or probably not)... but aside from the battle this episode was sad for both the "killed" side and the killer side...

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What was their purpose for separating into 2 groups if they were all after Poeun? I don't think Poeun would take a secret path with Sa Gwang and his servant accompanying him.

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*******Spoiler. They were following jmj group then csg told jmj to hurry to palace and fight off lbj and some people with him. Then younggyoo and bangwon followed jmj.. it was like you said but it wasnt intentional(i think)

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Oh I see. I haven't seen it cause there is no sub yet.

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It wasnt intentional because they didnt know(at the moment, yet) that he was with csg.. i think lbw still doesnt know until now, the ones who know are the swordsmen(lbj and moohyul) plus nameless and hong daehong since he saw her with jmj when he visited lsg in ep 35.. aside from them no one knows shes csg

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Sa Gwang was with Poeun at Lee Seong-gye's home. They all saw her there with Poeun and his servant. It must have been a long walk to the palace because it was dark when he got to the bridge lol.

I can see why they skipped the banquet (in history) and go straight to the bridge. It wouldn't make sense for this Bang-won to try and convince Poeun after all that has happened between them.

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@kiara bangji only knew she was sagwang when they were fighting.. and i doubt moohyul or hong has told bangwon that night that she is sagwang..

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I see ty :).

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Moohyul is his biggest fanboy. He probably doesn't want him to see Kill Bang Won side of himself. :(

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Moohyul is such an adorable fanboy of LBW, I wonder how he will react once Kill BangWon reaches his peak?

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I bet he'll stay by Bang Won's side anyway. Bang Won is not completely unreasonable so I think Moo Hyul will understand. He looked quite loyal to him even in Tree.

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Moo -hyul was loyal till the end!

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So good! Yoo ah in is really great as always :) excited for the next episode! Thanks headsno2! ^-^

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I am the only one who thinks lee seong gye is a bit indecisive . If they don't kill jung mong joo , sambong and all his follower will die , even so no one knows what may happen to the lee family after that. I think bang won made the right call.

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His indecisiveness drives me crazy! Even when his family and followers are in danger of execution he still hesitates

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This is not indecisiveness, but moral character. He refuses to kill a good man just because of political differences, and in that respect he's a better man then JDJ, PoEun, and everyone else in this show.

You can make the argument that PoEun is trying to kill him first, and thus all bets are off, but PoEun is trying to kill Lee Seong Gye for the crime of treason, which, in case you haven't noticed, he's kind of guilty of. PoEun already said it; the only reason he hasn't arrested 6 Dragons Incorporated on treason charges is because every position that involves ordering armed men about is already filled with 6DI's men. He NEEDS to be sneaky about it, or his counter-measures will stop before they even get started.

Nor can Lee Seong Gye claim that PoEun is against 'The Great Cause' because PoEun has objected to one thing and one thing alone; changing the nation from Goreyo to Joseon. And that is completely in-keeping with the Confucius Principles LSG claims to want to protect. Confucianism originally arose from a desire to preserve the failing Zhou Dynasty back in the B.C. Warring States days of China, so again, you cannot accuse PoEun of anything either nefarious or wicked; he and LSG are the only ones in this entire show to be true to themselves from beginning to end.

This is why LSG is so desperate to convince him, and even if he had to move against PoEun, he wouldn't have killed him, but imprisoned him and tried to convince him until his dying day, much like JDJ. PoEun is a moral center that is absolutely needed. And in the name of expediency, Lee Bang Won killed him. Didn't capture him, didn't remove him from power and influence; killed him.

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Hence, Lee Bang Won's speech from 'Deep Rooted Tree': He (Jung Do Jeon) did nothing. I killed Jung Mong Joo. I went to Ming as a hostage in his place. I overthrew the King of Goryeo King and established my father as a King. Even if there were many who wanted to kill Jung Mong Joo, they couldn't do it due to their excuse of moral duty. Others, wouldn't dare to dirty their own hands. Joseon has been founded by me. I have done it by dirtying my own hands. It is only right that I have all the power. That is my Joseon and my great cause.

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In reality they all got their hands dirty even Sambong. He may not physically kill anyone but he was Lee Seong-gye's advisor. So far they've killed Choi Young, King U, King Chang, and more in the future.

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It's kind of a messy transition from SFD to Tree at this point because they didn't plan a sequel ahead of time. They made changes especially with the relationships between some major characters that won't make much sense in Tree.

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Those characters annoy me. They refuse to fight dirty even when the enemies are doing all sorts of traitorous shit.

If I were watching this live, I'd be throwing the usual "Die! Die then, you weak idiot!" rants at the screen. Hahaha

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That why Lee Bang Won's speech from 'Deep Rooted Tree': He (Jung Do Jeon) did nothing. I killed Jung Mong Joo. I went to Ming as a hostage in his place. I overthrew the King of Goryeo King and established my father as a King. Even if there were many who wanted to kill Jung Mong Joo, they couldn't do it due to their excuse of moral duty. Others, wouldn't dare to dirty their own hands. Joseon has been founded by me. I have done it by dirtying my own hands. It is only right that I have all the power. That is my Joseon and my great cause.

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what episode is that from please?

and do you know if anyone has made like a post somewhere showing connections between six flying dragons and deep rooted tree? like plot wise and characters?

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six flying dragons and deep rooted tree are both made by the same team.. sfd is "loosely" a prequel of deep rooted tree/ tree with deep roots.(loosely because their aired in different networks). also moohyul and lee bangji are both fictional characters.. which the two dramas share.. queen seondeok also exists in this fictional universe, connected by the group nameless or moomyung and the character bidam.

http://bodashiri.tumblr.com/archive

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@ becca
It's episode 2 of Tree with Deep Root.

@comment2comment
The build up on Nameless was high but revealing who they were was disappointing at least to me. Their existence for over 700+yrs doesn't make a whole lot of sense other than to make a connection to QSD.

It makes sense in QSD because Bidam was concerned about the stability of the country if a woman was to rule the country and that's why he staged a coup (in history).

Queen Seon Deok may have been a great ruler but Shilla lost a lot of the land that the previous king before her father fought and betrayed Baekje for.

I still don't get why they kill Queen Noguk. She was King Gongmin's strongest supporter in his reform effort to strengthen Goryeo and weakened the power of the ruling class.

Frustrating.

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Yeah, it doesnt make much sense, i guess they were trying hard to connect the three, since they werent planned before hand to be connected, the connections between some characters in twdr and sfd doesnt make sense. Also probably why its just 'loosely' connected because they knew the are plot holes.. they might pull of a revenge of the sith(its ending) to force how the relationships from sfd became the relationships in twdr.. i think one of those differences is that moohyul and lee bangji arent close but in here theyre buddies, they might bring in amnesia or something to some characters, idk

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This is exactly what Bang Won tells his father in ep 36 (epic scene btw)

He's so frustrated of how LSG still looks around and hesitates when cornered. It was already a matter of life and death and yet LSG is still constrained by his morals. Bang Won almost yelled "die with your morals then" (in reality he said quit now since you dont want your hands dirtied)

Seeing them fight broke my heart but it was needed to emphasize how different they were. And it was also a great foreshadowing of why King bang won (taejong) is ruthless and why he had an overpowering lust for power

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this was exactly my point, like I get that Poeun and LSG are both moral characters, this has been shown repeatedly in the show but Poeun decided he was willing to kill Sambong to save Goreyeo and stop LSG and LSG is hesitating! Sambong is LSG's greatest ally, LSG cannot understand politics or organize the new Joseon without Sambong plus this means their entire family could be killed for treason. Yes technically they are committing treason but preserving their own lives should take priority over moral quibbling. LSG himself has said protecting his family/people comes first.

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This show manages to get better and better each episode.

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Right? I love everything about this drama, and especially so for the PD and the writer(s)...

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True that!

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Never have I rooted more for a loyal historical figure to be killed! Unleash Kill Bangwon!

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Hahaha, me too! At first I loved Jong Mong Joo for his kind and just heart, but he is much too cold as of late,...:(

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But it was still sad...

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I figured they'd be dragging the establishment of Joseon till episode 40 so Poeun's death means that the main plot will move forward.

I've seen him killed in 3 other sageuks so I'm skipping this one.

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Yeah, they dragged it so hard in here, even after his death, in ep 36, there are still problems and complications before establishing joseon.. but i think by episode 38 joseon will begin or atleast i hope so... out of topic but, im considering jang yoshil drama, is it good, or have you seen it?

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I meant jmj's death, they dragged it.

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(Spoiler)

After Poeun they will have to deal with the poor king that they forced to take the crown. Sa-kwang will probably die with him.

Poeun was not the only want who was loyal to Goryeo. Bang-woo refused to support his father. Teacher Lee Saek and most of the Sadaebu scholars refused to support Sambong and Lee Seong-gye. "Rumor" has it that 70+ (not sure about the number) scholars were burnt by Lee Seong-gye because they refused to serve the new government.

Poeun's influence was huge and that's why they desperately wanted him on their side.

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lee saek and followers plus bangwoo actually wants bangwon to be executed in the drama(is that what also happened in history?). Ep 36 was really a sad episode imo.. both for the killed side and the killer side.. banbwon seemed sad too, because it felt like everyone hates him. Except for his wife who told him he did well..( lady min's parts are small but i really like them. Though, they couldvve made her do alot more)

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I'm watching Jang Yeong Sil and so far i'm hooked.. :D
The astrology instruments and explanations are very entertaining..

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Thank you for staying true in recapping, Heads!!

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Agreed. Tackling a 50 episode show is not for the faint of heart.

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So good ~~~ so heart wrenching !!

Amazing how the show show how all different perspective works in that era and how no one is right or wrong.

Can't wait to see he epic fight and how Poen fate is sealed!!!!

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I find it interesting how Ha Ryun once said that Bangwon and Minister Hong were the exact opposites of each other, yet it's Minister Hong who continues to haunt and taunt Bangwon even after his death. They may not have been similar in personality and disposition, but Minister Hong understood Bangwon in ways many others can't. Anyways, I wish Ha Ryun's role and screentime would increase. I love the practicality of his character and his dorky bodyguard. With the Strife of the Princes approaching, though, Ha Ryun will be in the spotlight.

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I love the fact that Hong's ghost has become the personification of the 'bug in his heart'. Despite all the ways they were different (Ha Ryun is right in that regard) there was one similarity they undeniably shared; they both hated powerlessness, and would do almost anything (or, in the case of Hong, ANYTHING) to prevent that.

Hong being the one to constantly prod and poke Bang Won until he takes that plunge into 'Anything' is amazing story-telling. "Take my hand, and you will have power and dominate all those below you." Even from beyond the grave, Minister Hong has won.

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This episode was super amazing, too.
Thanks for the recap! Was waiting for it.
Ugh. This show is too good!!!

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Love the song choice!

Song aside, I was feeling frustrated as Bangwon in this episode. I hate how they put him on the spot (albeit that they know what he was strugging with it himself). I almost screamed "stop it! give him so space to think!" It's amazing how Yoo Ah-In was able to display how conflicted Bangwon is with the whole situation.

It's hard to pick a favourite episode with this drama especially when the next episode tend to up the previous episode, it just keeps on getting better and better! I have never been so engrossed in a saegeuk drama before - this might actually the first 50 eps saegeuk I watch from start to end (I skipped a few eps of Deep Rooted Tree - i got bored... Or lost concentration in a few eps!)

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I started watching Deep Roots because of this drama, and there were parts that I found boring...although it was a good drama as a whole. However I couldn't bring myself to complete it, cos they killed all my favourite characters!!!

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I will forever not watch the last episode and settled myself well with the recap. How can a drama kill everyone I love?? Everyone.

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SFD seems to have unleashed within me a bloodthirsty lust that I didn't know I was capable of. That last scene, with Bangwon's slow-mo walk and the hypnotising sway of Jung Mongjoo hat decoration thingie, made me go all "Kill, kill, kill! Die, die, die!". I am so ashamed.

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The dragon troops walking in slow-mo at the end of this episode is like #thugsforlyfe!

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HAHAHHAHAHAH. You're not the only one!

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Glad to know I'm not the only one! Exactly with the same chants! Haha!

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I know I got really bloodthirsty too,equally ashamed but JMJ drove me there and LBW is not a good influence either. This drama is really good at evoking strong emotions.

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we all share Kill BangWon's blood lust

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OMG OMG I'm hyperventilating! This show is freakin awesomeeee! Moohyul baby is growing up...awww...I feel like crying! And Lee Bang Won..gaaahhhh so Kill Bang Won does kill! He's killing me too!!! The preview for the next episode is the best preview EVER! Can't believe I would wait for that "poems" day to happen!

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PS: May I add that Jo Mal Saeng is sorta cute? :D

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He's adorable!!!!

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I want more JMS :D

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Ridiculously relevant song choice LOL I applaud it.

Sooooooo much Moohyul vs Sakwang build up. His character growth (lots of screentime!) in this episode was such a treat. He's finally come to a place where he has a strong resolution, and he now fully understands what he's fighting for. I can't help but to feel really proud, honestly.

Off to watch episode 36. It's going to be insane!

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I'm also proud of our baby dragon Moohyul, he is finally growing up.

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this is the first saeguk drama I watched..! usually I will not finish watiching it until 50 episode, but SFD is an exception.. the storyline, actors, man,... make me goosebump..!

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I think Moo hyul started to like Sakwang .. that's why he is struggling inside. I kind ship them together though!?

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imo, the reason why he wasnt able to kill her is because of conscience, and he is similar to her.. they both don't like to kill.. thats why. moohyul kinda easily likes girls, when he first saw gapboon (in the first episode they "grew up") then boonyi and now sagwang but i dont think it is serious and that deep, he seems fine with boonyi and bangwon.. though, it kinda seems they were trying to bring some sort of romance in them especially in episode 36 scene

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not to mention the king is still alive and sagwang/yeonrang clearly loves and dears and the king

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I agree. I don't think Moohyul has a crush on Sakwang. He is just a gentle soul that doesn't like hurting people. Banji said Moohyul fights better when he is protecting people. He is not cold enough to be an assassin. He only became a warrior to feed his family using his strength.

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I suggest watching Deep Rooted Tree after this. It's more fiction but it's technically the sequel of Tree.

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We see the end of Teacher Po-Eun's fate and the start of clash between Bang Won and Sambong JDJeon very soon.

Am pretty satisfied that somehow Po-Eun is gone, followed soon by Chuk Sa Gwang (we know in history Moohyul is alive till Sejong's era) so he and Bang Ji have definitely defeated her.

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"It’s always loneliest at the top." Agree with you, Heads. Eventhough he has his dragons on his back, Lee Bang Won is always being alone, and he is the decision maker. If only one of the eldests were by his side that night... Well, Haryun told him not to do anything and just lay low but it was imposdible in that circusmtances. I hope Haryun will come back soon. He is the only one who can help him after this.

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*elders

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I'm afraid Ha Ryun will be worst than Hong.

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In the drama, they made it seem like hong inbang was badest bad, if there were black and white characters in the drama,it was him and lee ingyeom they were just bad, but haryun didnt seem like that.. they made it so that he is sometimes funny too, (or it was just that the actor is kinda funny).

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Arrrr i made the awful mistake of showing this drama to my bf....now i have to wait for him every weekend to watch this drama instead of Monday and Tuesday ?...

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I was watching it with my mom and I got tired of her asking about the history so I told her who will die and how it will end so she quit watching.
Now I feel bad ........ maybe not. (Terrible daughter, I know).

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Lol, he doesn't even want me to tell him anything. ..I'm like: "but it's history! !...
Anyways is his first k-drama, and we're both excited about it.
I'm always looking forward to your comments Kiara, thank you for teaching us a little bit of korean history, yours and Homura at the other site.

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Aw then don't spoil it :). These writers are good at getting first time K-drama viewers addicted to their shows.

I'm learning the history with you guys so we are all on the same boat :).

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I'm still in awe at how a drama can still make me this excited to watch the next one after watching 35 episodes of it. Just how?! I'm a totally picky viewer too. Dropping dramas as soon as I get bored.

What I love about this show is there are no right answers. It doesn't matter whether your choice is right or wrong. The question is can you take responsibility for it? Can you handle what comes after it?

I went to this roller coaster of emotions with Po Eun. I love the guy. What fault does he have? He only wants the best for the country. But as time went by, it got frustrating. As Bang Won puts it, "What's so good about Goryeo that you can't give it up?" At that point, I just wanted Po Eun to die. He needed to die anyway. is what I told myself but now that we're at this point... Oh gosh, I don't know what to feel anymore. I don't know if I'm just so into this drama or what.

No matter how many times I say that I gave up on Moo Hyul's dragon credit, I keep on secretly wanting to see it. And the show keeps on disappointing me. I still love you, my baby. Have courage and be kind!

Yeshhhh Jo Mal Saeng! You can't imagine my excitement when a mystery scholar came out of nowhere. It has to be him! It has to be! Anyway, why are Bang Won's bodyguards so adorable? Is that his requirement?

Thank you for the recaps, Heads! Can you believe that we've been doing this for 18 weeks now?! 4 months! Oh my gosh!

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I swear, Moohyul's Sixth Dragon credit scene BETTER BE the most EPIC thing to ever happen on screen otherwise I'll be so mad. xD At this point, a 2 minute fight like Gil Tae Mi vs Bangji wouldn't even suffice. I want it to be reallyyyyyyyyy memorable, take up sufficient screen time, and be super cool >.< He deserves the best! He's waited this long!

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Amen, sister!! #MoohyulforDragon

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Yes, the refusal to make any of the choices that the characters make "easy" is what I love about this show.

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It may have been frustrating but it's been really cool to see Moo Hyul grow towards that dragon credit. In either this or next episode - SPOILER - he admitted he didn't really think think too deeply about what was right and wrong - and only now he's starting to really think about the goals they had been working towards.

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spoiler pleasee....who is jo mael sang and does he has a further contribution to the story. I suspect that everybody in this drama have their own significancy.
Thank you heads for the recaps, that’s pretty much what am thinking.

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I don't know about real history but he's like Bang Won's bodyguard/righthand man when he became king in Tree with Deep Roots. He "gave" Moo Hyul to his son King Sejong.

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Spoiler (History)

Jo Mal-Saeng existed in history. He served both Bang-won and his son King Sejong. If I remember correctly he was Minister of Defense during King Sejong's reign. He was involved in bribery scandals and was later sent into exile.

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thank you earthna

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I don't think earthna's description of Jo Malsaeng was right...I think Kiara was on point, the way it also happened in TWDR.

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Tho i'm mourning right now bcs of the brutal death of Po eun, I cant blame BW after all instead I pitty him,his longing for someone to stand beside him not only in his good but even in his worst!he made a tough decision,his afraid being alone and powerless!!
LSG made my eyes rolled!,Everyone is in danger,I wish that i could shout on him that " JMJ is executing them sir give a command " his too good!!

I have no complaint in BW bringing BJ on the scene after watching some scene in ep.36,,CSG has no weakness,,they need to make a dou! Or else he'll die I just wish that he made the final blow to kill her!

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Really, this show and the excitement it gives me! This is my first time to watch 50 episoder sageuk in real time. Because of the cast and the writer-PD team and the epic potential (well, and I'm shallow so Yoo Ah In and Byun Yo Han were key too lol), I tried giving it a go. And wow what a ride this has been so far. Already at episode 35 and things are continuing to thrill me. About to watch episode 36 and crossing my fingers that Moo Hyul would finally get his chyron! Hehe!

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first thanx heads for the recap kudos for keeping it up

BY how i love thee - she is truly the compassionate dragon in the way she is understanding but also guiding both BW and MH and i realized that MH is her true follower from the Hamju reason to the tree to the hope and now good or bad she always gives him support and advice like a parent

as for CSG the more i see the more i dislike why did they make her this way
what does she mean she and MH shouldnt think of good or bad instead of different views of good and bad
theyre setting her up to be a brainless follower with no opinion or views on life i really dislike her here

also for me im starting to feel the drag i do watch and enjoy but knowing the future and having it so delayed is starting to make me lose a but of the excitement and passion i had for the show bf

why did they drag it so much we know all their stand point there is nothing new in the last 6 ep

i understand they wanted to show the start of conflict between LSG & LBW but it was there all the time from the first time LBW faked his sign from the drama JDJ is more in favor of LBW than LSG

and of course they wanted to show that although LBW saved LSG life he goes against him and disprove of him
but LBW knows he has no chance of becoming a king without his father becoming one first

no one recognize him now he doesnt even considered by any of the ministers exept thise he is directly invole and they all think of LSG & JDJ so from LBW point of view without his father being a king first he has no chance in becoming one - so the conflict is always the same

what worries me is that since they prefer to end the ep with a cliffhanger they wont have time later on for all the other strifes and JDJ LBW conflict

if so it means the writers will end with LBW being king without showing his life as a king at all which mean they will end it with LBW at a tyrant since we wont see the good things he has done for the ppl and we will have the same impression we have of him in TWDR

i dont get what the writers are aiming at what are they trying to tell us

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episode 36 was soo... whoaaaaaa......can’t wait for the heads to recap it.

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Bang won fighting!!!!!!! Stay strong

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This show is the highlight of my week. There'll be a big dragon-shaped hole in my heart when it ends.

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I think that dragon-shaped hole will forever imprint us all, Carole..you're right. I've never loved a drama this long before, ever.

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Seriously, though I was touched by LSG's words to Po Eun but at the same time, I got so angried with him. From the beginning till now, it was always him who put everyone, including his so called precious family, in danger. Plz general LSG, you cant be that naive in this turbulent time.

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Great acting from Cheon Ho-Jin there. I thought it was moving when he reached out and touched Poeun's hand, begging him to reconsider.
(Made me want to call Poeun a heartless jerk. He wasn't there as a friend. He was there to assess his condition so he knows when to strike).

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I'm really hating Poeun especially when he kept saying LSG wont kill me to the king trying to persuade him of killing Sambong... Really? I just wanted to scream at him that even if LSG tried to kill him it would be well deserved!!!

i mean he was there when the king's lover said she'll assassinate LSG and he had no objections to that, i hate how two faced he is.
The fact that LSG wouldnt kill him is out of respect and admiration and i hate that Poeun knows that and even counts on that fact to stab LSG in the back not once or twice but repeatedly... I'll be glad to see him gone=.=

(no slight intended to the real Poeun of course, just following the drama)

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Yea, not hating on the historical Poeun, just the twisted one in this drama lol.

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Great acting by all actors here,,but I cant help feel the urge to support Bang Won on this one...if he didnt do anything, does his father will realize it when its too late aka Sambong execution?

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Really random. But I’m thinking Moohyul and Sakwang might develop a love line leading to a huge improvement to his skills later to become the best swordsman in deep roots. Perhaps she might impart her skills to him... cos I dun see how he will rise to the top with his current half baked skills and being strong alone is not enough.

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Six Flying Dragons is definitely an improvement over The Great Seer which wrongly conveyed the idea that naivety or too much kindness to thy enemy paid off. People who committed crimes should be given their just deserts, failure to do so may result in their coming back to bite you or others.

Six Flying Dragons is not without its fault, with the usual cliché, but at least the 'turn other cheek' was not overdone. What is lacking though is romantic tensions of love triangles, jealously and back stabbings, especially among the female characters.

With 15 episodes left, it is unlikely we will see more capers during the reign of Sung-Hye and Bang-Won. This drama will probably end with the enthronement of Sung-Gye. It would be a shame, leaving us hanging, like most dramas. Unless there is a sequel

Talking of sequels, I wish these Korean dramas would have more than one season, like in Western dramas.

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I know it's just your opinion that you think there should be more of a focus on romance in this drama and for the characters that are women to be jealous of each other and backstab each other over presumably one man, Lee Bang-won.
But personally I'm glad there's none of that in this drama.
There's way too much of that kind of stuff in other dramas already (even outside of the historical genre) and we could argue it's actually extremely cliche.
I'm tired of women being portrayed as only romantic interests for a main character that's a man. Boon-yi was introduced as simply Bang-won's lover in the show, but at least we can see how important she is to the entire plot. Like she isn't just there as eye-candy and to be in love with Bang-won.
To me it's a huge plus.

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The show isn't over yet though, so who knows, maybe they'll focus more on romance once Bang-won is on the throne or even when Joseon is finally a reality.
Da-gyung kinda got jealous when Boon-yi spoke to Bang-won informally. Maybe it'll become a bigger issue once the actual big problems are out of the way lol.

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****SPOILER even love line. Boon-yi is real in history. So, don't ready wiki. and bang won gonna kill too many .

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"What is lacking though is romantic tensions of love triangles, jealously and back stabbings, especially among the female characters." -- You're just being cynical, right? This sounds like another makjang stories from million k-dramas we've ever watched.

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