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Big Mouth: Episodes 3-4

Misdirection abounds this week, giving us too many twists and turns to truly know who’s in alliance. One thing that’s certain is our leading couple is on the case, separated by prison walls but closer to each other than ever before. With the real Big Mouse still MIA and our hero embracing his false identity, we start to see our losing lawyer come into his own. There’s just one snag: how to be a believable criminal without being blamed for any crimes.

 
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There’s a social theme that underlies our show this week as we find that in Gucheon Prison those with money and connections get special treatment, while those without are forced to do the worst, most disgusting (think raw sewage) jobs. Our boy Chang-ho is in the second category, and it’s this division of people into classes that ultimately pushes him to declare he’s Big Mouse.

It begins when the three high-society inmates (the “VIP”) pay one of the unmoneyed inmates to kill Chang-ho. There’s a serious scuffle in the prison yard but, fortunately, Chang-ho proves pretty good at defending himself and leaves only with his hand in a bandage where he caught the blade. Afterward, the warden, PARK YOON-GAP (Jung Jae-sung) — known for taking bribes — asks Chang-ho for money. If he’s Big Mouse, he should be able to pay with no problem. Chang-ho can’t pay, and when Warden Park starts to threaten his family, he realizes the only way to survive and protect Mi-ho is to pretend to be Big Mouse — wielding power instead of money.

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Here’s where things get good and the sh*t — literally — hits the fan (and everything else). When Chang-ho and the rest of the Grade C prisoners are cleaning the sewer, they’re not allowed to eat in the cafeteria with everyone else. Chang-ho takes on his new identity with verve and leads a rebellion to ask for food. He spews the smelly slop (with a ladle, lol) all over the guards until the warden comes to break things up. Now convinced that Chang-ho is Big Mouse, Warden Park fears for his family and lets the Grade C gang go to the cafeteria.

Shouting “Boss” as they follow, this act earns Chang-ho a small group of devotees — and I finally start to get behind him as well. He may be a loser in his real life, but as Big Mouse, he triumphs.

Running on the heels of his success, Chang-ho wants more loyal supporters and spreads the word that he’ll grant any wish to anyone. At first, only three people take it seriously and he hears requests to save dying mothers and find missing daughters. Then, the guy who tried to stab him gets transferred to his room and says he wants his wish granted too — but he (and a few others) are only there to try to kill him again (with the backing of the VIP and the warden). This time, as the murder attempt goes down, Chang-ho’s crew comes to his aid and one of them gets stabbed instead, winding up in the hospital to recover.

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After the stabbing, everyone involved gets put in solitary confinement and the knife-happy guy is found dead in his cell. It looks like a suicide but Chang-ho is blamed. Then, two of the other culprits die, this time by cyanide. CCTV footage shows they swallowed it by themselves, but it’s a mystery where they got it. All fingers are pointing at Big Mouse and suddenly Chang-ho realizes the real Big Mouse could be in the prison too.

Here, I’m compelled to detour to introduce JERRY (Kwak Dong-yeon). He’s one of Chang-ho’s roommates who’s also become his right-hand man. He tells Chang-ho he’ll stay by his side, arguing he’s not a traitor, just a scammer. When they first meet, Chang-ho is introduced as Big Mouse and Jerry says he’s a super fan. In fact, his name comes from the show Tom and Jerry — where Jerry is the mouse. (Now, just putting it out there… a scamming mouse? Isn’t that precisely the guy we’re looking for? Is that mouse tattoo on his inner wrist just part of his fandom status? Seems suspicious.)

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Ji-hoon visits Chang-ho in prison and threatens to kill him if he can’t prove he’s Big Mouse. He wants to confirm the names of five major drug buyers — he’ll check the names against Big Mouse’s ledger, which he got from the prosecutor. So, as one would, Chang-ho knocks out a guard and steals his cell phone to call Mayor Choi. The mayor has the same ledger because the prosecutor also gave it to him, promising that there were no copies (i.e., shady prosecutor). Too bad for Chang-ho, the mayor hangs up on him.

After meeting with Ji-hoon, Chang-ho decides that it was Big Mouse himself that must have framed him. Big Mouse likely couldn’t handle the repercussions of ripping off NR Forum — the group of local elites that includes Ji-hoon. (I mean, it makes sense. Who else would have all that cash and drugs to plant in the wall?) Now that the warden also knows about the drug ledger and Ji-hoon’s demand, Chang-ho has to produce the names on the list.

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While all this is happening, Mi-ho is stationed at the hospital digging into the case of the murdered doctor. It seems the paper referred to during the murder was a research paper the doctor wrote that now can’t be found. It was never published, and word around town is, “there is no paper.” This becomes the driver for most of the action on Mi-ho’s side. Since she’s making no headway by asking around, she stands up in a hospital seminar, full of staff, and announces she has the paper. She doesn’t have it, of course, but her logic is that whoever goes after her or contacts her about it will lead to a breakthrough. (Yikes. I thought she was the smart one.)

As soon as she leaves the hospital, she starts getting tailed. But the first to actually contact her is Mayor Choi. He knows about her claim because his wife is also Mi-ho’s boss, Hospital Director HYUN JOO-HEE (Ok Ja-yeon). Side note: since Joo-hee asked Mi-ho to resign because her husband is Big Mouse (though Mi-ho refused), it’s not clear to me who’s side she is on, or if she and her husband are after the same things in this case. Anyway, when the mayor finds out that Mi-ho doesn’t really have the paper, their meeting is short.

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When Mi-ho finally catches the person following her, it’s Mayor Choi’s secretary. She assumes he has villainous intentions, but the mayor says he was watching out for her — it was a dangerous move to claim she has the research paper in front of so many people. The mayor then gives her a list of five names from the drug ledger and tells her to deliver it Chang-ho. He’s decided to help him because if he were really Big Mouse he wouldn’t have called the mayor asking for the names. (Still, why he decides to help the guy he hired as a pawn I’m not sure.) Mi-ho delivers the names and Chang-ho tells her to call the mayor if she gets into any trouble — he’s the only one that will be on their side.

Here’s the kicker to this whole thing: Ji-hoon made a fake ledger, and that’s what the prosecutor gave to the mayor. If Chang-ho says the names on that list to Ji-hoon, he will know both that Chang-ho is not Big Mouse and that the mayor is not on his side. Ji-hoon tells Mayor Choi about the ledger the day before he is supposed to go meet Chang-ho. The mayor can’t get in touch with Chang-ho and this week’s episodes end with Chang-ho having a visitor (we don’t know who) and the entire prison cheering him on.

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I feel there’s already a tonal shift from last week. Maybe it’s the prison setting that now dominates the show? (It’s certainly the least amount of outfit changes I ever thought possible for Lee Jong-seok.) I think it has to do with how Mi-ho seems like she’s taking a backseat to Chang-ho, rather than being the kickbutt female I was hoping for. Even though Chang-ho is in prison, I feel like he’s accomplishing more — not just in terms of his character — but in solving the case. When Mi-ho delivered the list of names to him, he told her he’d tell her what it was about after it was taken care of — how did she get demoted to a messenger while he’s getting so much done behind bars?

While I’m glad their separation is pulling them towards each other (they’re both a huge sobbing mess whenever they meet), I’d like to see this crisis utilize their strengths as well. At the end of the day, I’m not interested in Chang-ho’s growth if it’s at Mi-ho’s expense. Still, with so much story left to go, there’s time to recalibrate.

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It’s certainly the least amount of outfit changes I ever thought possible for Lee Jong-seok.

Don't ever change :)

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There's no way in hell would i watch a poop stained episode ! What were the writers thinking ! Yesh it was gross

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I had to work overtime to pretend it was mud to get through the entire 4th episode because I made the mistake of deciding to watch it over lunch hahahaha.

I agree with your observations about tonal change and also on Miho's characterisation @dramaddictally, I felt the same way while watching!! After last week, I was really hoping to see more active Miho and was a little disappointed by the passive route they'd given her and like you I'm hoping it'll be recalibrated in the following weeks. The biggest drawcard that this show has, for me, is Miho and Miho and Changho's relationship so if they start plotting along at the expense of either/or both then :(

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Saaaaaame! I was eating during that scene and suffice to say I didn’t finish

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Honestly I think he IS Big Mouse and either he has a multiple personality disorder or is an unreliable narrator

I just don’t believe a guy who never threw a punch can somehow hold his own during
multiple attempted assassinations and many a prison fight

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But the again I didn’t watch Vagabond so I don’t really know how often the writers use plot armour

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To a laughable extent. Dalgeon has become shorthand for a character who is invincible, invulnerable and immortal.
An invulnerable alien who loves chicken (you had to be there I think).

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(you definitely had to be there)

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Another possibility might be Mi-ho... planting all that stuff in their home shouldn't have been easy even for a big bad to arrange quickly, but a resident could have handled it.

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Bearing in mind that I dropped this show after about 30 minutes because it was as ridiculous as Vagabond but nowhere near as fun, it was enough time to conclude that Mi-ho being Big Mouse was the only interesting thing that could ever happen with her character. And highly unlikely.

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Personally, I want Kwak Dong Yeon/Jerry to be Big Mouse lmao.

I don't even care if that's plausible or not; Dalgeon II said Big Mouse might be in the prison nearby, he has a mouse tattoo and his name is Jerry, and my mind went "Fraq. Give it to me. Give me what Vincenzo didn't."

This probably won't actually give it to me either but now that I've latched onto that ideabug, my brain won't let it go very easily.

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I think this is totally plausible. It would make sense for the Big Mouth/Big Mouse dual name if it turned into a double identity.

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I decided to start this drama this week and idk how to feel!

For starters the cast lineup is insane and i'm living for it. The storyline is compelling and I hope they keep it up.

Apart from that, my theory for the identity of Big Mouse is all over the place. I'm suspicious of everyone, especially those around CH in the prison (im looking at you, jerry) cuz the last place anyone would expect Big Mouse to be in is prison. (If it really is CH, Im gonna need a good execution of it and reason why/how)
If BM isnt in prison (and not CH) i'm really worried for CH after he settles the prison issue and the real BM goes after him.

Aside from that, some of the lines said by the cast is really questionable (all those weird analogies makes me wonder who wrote the script) and I'm hoping they cut down on that

All in all Im looking forward to the upcoming eps!

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"Aside from that, some of the lines said by the cast is really questionable (all those weird analogies makes me wonder who wrote the script) and I'm hoping they cut down on that" -- I have bad news for you lmao

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LMAO no way 😭😭

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This show... is just like Vagabond minus the fun. I agree with others, i think back then i could stand watching Vagabond until i dropped it at ep 11 or 12(?) because it's still quite entertaining to watch. I was wondering how far they would go.
But so far my reaction to this show: poor Jongsuk has to suffer and deal with poop (ew, gross! Really, show?) and how his crying scenes still got me... and that's because i'm a fan.
I don't care about Big Mouse, everyone can be it. Even Miho can be Big Mouse and i still wouldn't care.

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I think it's more realistic for Changho to kick asses than Miho, he is the one who's standing in the middle of literal shit, Miho wants to save her husband but she is clueless about lots of things that are happening in prison. She is a nurse, no matter how fierce she is, she can't become an ass kicker just like that, so I'm happy with the pace of the drama.

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Agreed. Also, the drama isn't about Mi-ho, it's about Chang-ho. This is his story and Mi-ho is complementing that story nicely. She does not fit the archetype of the #strongfemalecharacter, thank God! They went for something more subtle with her (like her believing in Chang-ho and keeping it together during this turmoil, which demonstrated her inner strength). Don't need any ass-kicking to like her.

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agreed! i'm glad at least miho can see changho in prison bc i was under the impression they wouldn't allow visitors besides his lawyer. hopefully they'll develop miho's role more in the upcoming weeks but so far i think she's doing well! like her outsmarting the hospital staff

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This drama is so fun to watch, it's like 3d drama, exciting. Haha...he make the psycho cry instead...then protect miho, so be the big mouse. So funny the warden order were ignore by prisoners but obey CH when he step out give a stare, all went be to cell. Like the director whose work is top notch, good directing, good script n good acting by all cast n editing is good too. Every characters in this drama is interesting, the dialogue is good, hope the story development gets better n better. LJS really know how to pick project, a successful comeback.

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I'm surprised at how unengaging this show is so far.

You've got the prime actors (minus Yoona), a dependable director, Kwak Dong-yeon (need I say more?), an interesting narrative frame (which, as it turns out, isn't so interesting after all) yet none of the elements mesh well together.

I feel like this drama should've been produced and aired ~3 years ago when this type of story of putting the protagonist in jail would've been at least a tad bit more original. But I can't even feel any sympathy for Chang-ho, whose rise to dominance in the prison world is based all on luck/K-drama cliches than actual character development in intelligence (he really thought the warden was one of the good guys? How did this fool pass the bar?) and...I'm not even going to get started on the grating character of Miho.

What's Kwak Dong-yeon next series? And how quickly will it be released?

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First of all, HELLO everyone - I've been reading recaps for some time on many dramas I'm watching long after your comments were written, but this is the first time I've watched anything in real time so thought I'd venture a contribution.

I suspect Mi-ho's dad. He's Chang-ho's office manager so he has the keys and knows when the office is empty. He could be conducting his business from there when Chang-ho is in court. He was a cop for 20 years and told the arresting officers that showed up at the hospital to take Chang-ho away on drugs charges that he used to be the 'captain of criminal affairs'. That being so, he will have had contact and perhaps a long association with many criminals.

Why leave the police to become an office manager for a third-rate lawyer? I don't remember any explanation of that but could be wrong. But if he is BM, then what a great shield Chang-ho has been. Unsuccessful, apparently inept, but could that be because of the cases he takes on, funnelled through his office manager who keeps him ticking over with only a 10% win rate?

Also, our married couple live with him in his house, so he knows their movements at all times. Mi-ho wears the pants and her father seems to be afraid of her too, but is he pretending? Really, it's just a perfect set-up for him. Too bad Chang-ho went off-piste and tried to mug Gong Ji-hoon over the dashcam footage. I'm not convinced the haul was planted in the office ceiling in that short space of time between Chang-ho being arrested and the search carried out. It is just as likely to have been there all along if Mi-ho's dad was hiding it there.

If father-in-law is Big Mouse, then events could also be out of his control now to some extent. Hiding behind his own family is one thing, but now his daughter and son in law are also hunting for Big Mouse, one outside the prison and one inside. It may also explain why Chang-ho seems magically protected in jail by having taken on the persona of Big Mouse. Right now he seems to think Big Mouse might actually be in there with him, but father-in-law surely has contacts after 20 years in the police, enough to start a "Big Big Big" chant from a handful of prisoners that could spread to a crescendo. There are things Chang-ho did himself to make inmates believe he is BM, but even he can see there is another force at work backing him up.

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Nice theory. I was wondering why the actor playing Mi Ho's dad took on this role because he mostly plays bad characters. I also feel fishy vibes from Chang Ho's lawyer friend.

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I'm also wondering about the 5 names of the drug dealer clients given by the mayor to Mi-ho. The names in the ledger kept in the mayor's safe were different to those seen on the paper she eventually gave to Chang-ho.

Either the mayor did not write down the names he was reading (if so, why look flustered when Ji-hoon tells him they are fake?) OR the paper was switched before it was handed to Chang-ho. It could have been switched by Mi-ho, her dad, or Soontae (who was with her on the prison visit) although Soontae would have had to have exactly the right size, type of paper and colour of pen to do that in a very short time, having first asked her to show it to him.

So I still favour her father as he would have had time overnight to take that paper and reproduce it with new names - assuming Mi-ho didn't go straight from the mayor to the prison.

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loving this drama so far! the episodes really fly by with the mix of action, mystery and hint of romance. kind of reminds me of vincenzo with that dark humor too lol. yoona and lee jong suk have really good chemistry!! hope they give us more flashback scenes

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Fabulous production! Ep 1 started just okay but from ep 2 everything fell into place and it was a ride. The hour passed by very fast. It withstood a re-watch the next day. By ep 4 everyone who's onboard is guessing who big mouse is. Let's keep in mind the title though - BIG MOUTH.

This is a fabulous comeback for Lee Jong Suk. It showcases a wide range of acting. Can't wait for next week.

Btw a certain idol's fans who have been fighting with Yoona's fans for years are launching a smear campaign on this show, hoping to bring it down. I'm fan of neither but surprised that they are bringing the smear from a certain country to English international platforms. Really puts off non-fans of either and do damage to their idol's image.

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I feel the writer wrote Gong Ji Hoon to be a parody of villians. He does all sorts of buffoonery that he comes across more as a clown. His face off with the Mayor in the bathroom made me rethink the Mayor's motive and wonder of he really is on the good side. Also, the clippings showed the Mayor reading different names from the names given too Chang Ho. Was it intentional? If so why was the mayor anxious? I don't care who Big Mouse is as long as they pull off the trickery right.

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I posted this on another site too but seems like it got deleted:

Maybe, Park Chang Ho is the real Big Mouse who stole from them rich. That explains the man in the gold dumping scene in ep 1 whom I also believe looks like Lee Jong Suk.

However, the car accident he had due to being drugged by one of those bad ones, caused him to forget his secret identity of Big Mouse. Now, he doesn't remember he is Big Mouse and yet is forced in jail and has to pretend to be Big Mouse just to save his family. The one he is trying to pretend is actually he himself without him knowing. Park Chang Ho now has to use his Big MOUTH skill (from being a failing lawyer) to convince everyone he is Big MOUSE.

This guess could explain why money and criminal tools were hidden in his office - he probably forgot everything associated with Big Mouse due to the accident. Though of course those things in the office could easily be a set-up from any of the bad ones. Or, he could indeed have a split personality. That could explain the part when he was surprised by his own strength (though of course if you have never hit someone in your life before you probably would be surprised about your strength or lack of). I don't really buy the split personality theory though.

Been thinking about the 3 (or 2?) young neighbours. They are listed on the cast list of production credits. If their appearance is only for comic relief to showcase the relation of the married couple, that one-off needn't be listed. They appeared in a very recent interview too. Could they be the ones to help Big Mouse Chang Ho do the NR forum job?

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