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My Lovely Liar: Episodes 13-14

What does it really mean to trust someone? And what might drive a person to betray the trust of someone they care about? My Lovely Liar chooses an *interesting* way to explore these questions, for sure, but I recommend bracing yourself, because I can’t help thinking there had to be a better way.

 
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Eom-ji’s father gleefully tells Do-ha that he didn’t kill his daughter — but he sure hoped someone would, so he could collect insurance. His claim registers as truth, as does his tip that Jae-chan used to follow Eom-ji around like a stalker. Jae-chan takes off. When Do-ha finally catches him, he deadpans, “Okay fine — I killed her.” And then LAUGHS. Sol-hee arrives a step too late to catch whether he’s lying, and he threatens her with a knife so he can escape. (Sol-hee assures Do-ha that Jae-chan isn’t serious about hurting her, but Do-ha isn’t taking any chances.)

Do-ha wants to believe Deuk-chan couldn’t have known what Jae-chan did, so he insists on confronting his friend without Sol-hee listening in. Deuk-chan is visibly upset by the news, though he seems most upset about the thought of losing Do-ha’s trust after all he and Jae-chan have done for him.

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“Trust” is the name of the game this week. According to Sol-hee’s dad, trust needs to be 100% or it’s useless, but Sol-hee confesses to Do-ha that she’s never trusted anyone completely, because she was constantly being hurt by one lie or another. This comes after he helps her scour her entire apartment to find her escaped pet turtle (A.K.A. her only confidant), and he promises to be her first fully trustworthy person.

Meanwhile, Kang-min’s investigation continues. Following Eom-ho’s notes, he learns that a witness saw someone wearing Do-ha’s jersey return to Eom-ji after Do-ha left her on the beach. Then Jin-hyuk caves, confesses, and turns over the ring he found with Eom-ji’s corpse. It can’t legally be used as evidence now, but it gives Kang-min another thread to pull. And pull he does until he discovers it’s a copy — someone had a third ring made to match Do-ha and Eom-ji’s couple rings.

My Lovely Liar: Episodes 13-14 Kim So-hyun Minhyun Seo Ji-hoon

Kang-min goes straight to Do-ha and Sol-hee with his findings. After a quick lie-detector test on Do-ha, he levels with them: to convict Jae-chan, they need more evidence. The trouble is, Jae-chan has been caught by Sol-hee’s gang boss friend… but his minions were bribed into letting Jae-chan go. By none other than Deuk-chan.

Do-ha and Sol-hee call Deuk-chan, trying not to jump to conclusions. He claims he’s home alone, but it doesn’t take Sol-hee’s powers to figure out he’s lying. Jae-chan is hiding out at his place. Desperate for the truth, Do-ha hires Sol-hee to set up one of her lie-detection stings at the jazz bar.

My Lovely Liar: Episodes 13-14 Yoon Ji-on Minhyun

At first, Deuk-chan continues to lie that he has no idea where Jae-chan is. But when Do-ha gets emotional, Deuk-chan decides enough time has passed for him to safely tell the truth. Jae-chan is turning himself in for Eom-ji’s murder as they speak. Seeing the betrayal on Do-ha’s face, Deuk-chan adds, truthfully, that Jae-chan once asked who he’d save if Do-ha and Jae-chan were both drowning — and that he’d choose Do-ha, without fail, every time. But Jae-chan is still his brother.

Since Jin-hyuk has exposed his own crime of accepting bribes, the murder case is turned over to Kang-min’s unit. Do-ha’s mother watches her political career go down the drain, unable to grasp why she’s being punished for fabricating evidence when her son was innocent all along. She has the gall to accuse Do-ha of confusing her with his testimony, but he throws it right back: she should have trusted him from the start.

Sol-hee and her friends throw Do-ha a surprise party, prompting him to cry tears of joy and launch into a heartfelt thank you speech that ends with a kiss for Sol-hee. But Do-ha can’t shake a sense of incompleteness. And he’s not the only one: the more Kang-min questions Jae-chan, the more robotic his answers sound. Plus, they just don’t add up.

So Kang-min asks Sol-hee for a favor. He gets her in to speak to Jae-chan, and she pretends to be in on his and Deuk-chan’s plan to try and get answers out of him. It takes some prodding, but eventually he cracks: Deuk-chan was behind it all, and promised that if Jae-chan confessed in his place, he’d soon be released for lack of evidence.

As for Deuk-chan himself, he’s been working on overdrive trying to save J Entertainment. Aiming for extra PR points, he convinces both Sha-on and Do-ha to join him for a ceremony where he announces the company’s vision for the future: he’s stepping down and appointing Do-ha as CEO instead. Do-ha politely declines.

Sol-hee, meanwhile, searches Deuk-chan’s office for evidence. There, she finds a photo of him staring happily at Do-ha… and everything clicks. Deuk-chan is in love with Do-ha. The extra ring is his. When Sol-hee confronts Deuk-chan, he breaks down. He’d planned to turn himself in long ago, but kept delaying it because of his feelings for Do-ha. He promises to do it now and begs her not to let Do-ha know, but it’s too late. Do-ha has overheard everything.

Deuk-chan is too overcome with emotions to get an explanation out. He flees, narrowly escaping arrest at the hands of Kang-min, and leads them on a high-speed car chase. Then he unbuckles his seat belt and deliberately crashes into a construction site. Kang-min drags him out and administers CPR, and then the car explodes, leaving an odd, ominous ringing in Sol-hee’s ears.

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Well that… took a turn. Or several. I’d suspected Deuk-chan might have feelings for Do-ha and that he might be the killer. But I really could have done without the car chase/crash scene and all that it entailed. And without the implication that Deuk-chan (as the only confirmed LGBTQ+ character, no less) was a manipulative villain all along who let the person he supposedly loved carry his guilt and public condemnation for years because… he loved him and didn’t want him to know?

I’m trying to reserve final judgment until next week (because, as this show likes to point out, the truth is usually more complicated than it appears), but I’d have preferred a scenario where Eom-ji’s death was an accident and Deuk-chan, genuinely believing Do-ha did it, covered it up to protect him. It would even fit right in with the theme of trust and the fatal error Do-ha’s mom committed in assuming the worst of her son instead of listening to him.

I have to give props to Yoon Ji-on for that last confrontation scene with Sol-hee, though, because even as Deuk-chan was confirming my worst fears about the direction his character was heading, I still felt bad for him. Maybe he’s just that good of a manipulator, or maybe I’m just upset because Deuk-chan and Do-ha both deserved better than this, but this week left me with a profound sense of sadness — and not exactly for the reasons the show was aiming for, either. There were some great ingredients here, but I really wish they’d been combined differently.

 
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I never get 2ML Syndrome, but I'm coming kinda close these past few eps. He's just so darn COMPETENT. It doesn't help that the ML's acting is, imo, quite lacking. I have to remind myself how terrible the 2ML was acting a few eps ago.

I saw the twist with the ML's best friend coming several episodes ago, although I did not suspect the real motive. My husband is wondering if his wife knew either about the murder or maybe they had a very sexless marriage, so that's why she cheated.

Also, it felt kind of inappropriate to throw a party. Like, a girl still died.

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🤗I’ve had SLS all along, welcome to the club

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I would like to see Seo Ji-hoon as ML in a rom-com or happy sageuk 😄

All that pain-gazing is not for me - no melos or tragic sageuks please.

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In fact, he was in a fussion sageuk, but I have not watched it yet: Flower Crew Joseon Marriage Agency.

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Thank you for pointing that out. I had no recollection of seeing Seo Ji-hoon earlier and his (in)famous pain gazing in MLL didn't make me want to spend the 5 seconds to google him!!

I mentioned Flower Crew on the thread of dramas to watch during My Dearest hiatus - and to cheer on Kim Min-jae on his enlistment.

I guess it must be very tiresome to play SL and "out-act" the handsome but wooden ML in both these dramas.

Just checked his page on mdl (nice profile pic). He is stated to play ML in a web drama but it seems sus as the drama page only refers to the two (replaced) leads giving no info about other cast and crew. So let us keep out an eye for him.

Hwaiting Seo Ji-hoon!

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I was down bad with SLS in Flower Crew 😭

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It is worth watching. I really enjoyed watching Flower Crew Joseon Marriage Agency. Every character is unique, and their antics lead to some hilarious and heartfelt scenes.

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It was my first sageuk and I was so confused when I saw a "real" sageuk later. I then learned Flower Crew was a "fusion sageuk".

The title totally justified all characters in the Crew.

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Seo Ji Hoon is the ML in King of Saju. Recently completed filming and it's difficult to find information but I will be elbowing other beannies to be first in line to watch 😊

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I am looking forward to its release.

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I had to stop watching this show a while ago as it was painful to watch the 2ML, who is very obviously good at his job, out act the ML. 
Kdramas are competitive and harsh in that the pretty face (which is very subjective) sometimes  ranks higher than one's acting ability in casting. 
It must be very frustrating for these actors, who are by far superior with their craft to have to live this. 
I hope the 2ML gets his own turn soon to be a 1 ML. 

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A good ensemble case really uplifts the show but as rightly pointed out by you, secondary characters out-acting the leads is a sure shot recipe for disaster.

MLL was definitely a wasted opportunity.

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I often think about how frustrating it must be, too. Also for the more experienced actress playing the FL (or ML in some cases) to act next to them.

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I wonder, say for example in this case with the FL being more experienced and a better actress than the ML, if they are exhausted having to try to compensate for the other by the end of filming?
Surely it would be obvious to her once they are getting into the more emotional side/portrayal that the ML is not quite there yet.

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I honestly don't understand why they gave the bulk of the plot in the second half to Do-ha and pushed all the other characters to the back burner. I also don't understand why Kang-min is doing all the detective for a case that isn't even under his jurisdiction. Does he not have enough workload at his own station? Does he have Hermoine's time turner? How is he everywhere? I've said this before but everyone looks exhausted in this drama and disconnected. People just appear read out their lines and exit stage left. While the plot is happening in some other universe where Do-ha is struggling to emote. I don't even blame Hwang min-hyun for this, yes he is not a strong actor and is definitely not ready to carry an entire drama on his own but the writing he's been given is pretty bad too. It shows that he's trying hard to act but ends up looking tired and awkward in many scenes.

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@firefly LOL, and Kang-min is doing literally everything for a case that isn't even his. I guess they needed to give him something to do. I didn't think about it until I read what you said, but it's so true that everyone looks exhausted and disconnected.

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So very well analyzed 👏👏👏

All we need now is - ‘Exit, pursued by a bear’!

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@seeker @fleecestorm 🤣 That would be the only Shakespearean thing about this show - although, come to think of it, old Will did have his share of dropped or dead-end plot points. I nominate Sol-hee's mom (and possibly dad, too) for the honor of the bear pursuit.

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I don't think it's the pretty face (Hwang Min). I think it's his status as an idol. That's why he and Arin were hired for Alchemy of Souls - they brought k-pop fans to k-drama.

Hwang Min has several million followers on Instagram. He's trying to maintain his singing career and build an acting career. Maybe he will succeed, but most other idols trying to make the leap recognize that doing both is risky.

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That party was such a ????

Also glad I'm not the one who was catching SLS because he was competent at his job (apparently a high bar to clear if you're from the Hakcheon police division)

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Maybe the wife was just his beard... now we don't even know if the daughter was his, but Deuk-chan sure seems to love the daughter.

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Trying to out-Heartbeat Heartbeat, are we?

I'll have more to say it What We're Watching, but I'll give you a teaser now. My preliminary draft of my Killing Vote comment is "Can we vote to kill the writers who stick us with bad endings to shows that started well?" (It hasn't aired yet, but so what?)

Also, they need to clarify how the girl died and why Deuk-chan killed her (if he did). I would have thought that his crush on Do-ha would have made him glad Do-ha broke up with whats-her-name, but I don't see how it would have led him to seek any confrontation with her.

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I think I've mentioned before that this writer's last drama completely bombed the ending, so I was sort of expecting this. At least they've given us some moments of the leads dating and happy together, though, which is way more than I can say for the last drama.

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I was thinking of you when this week unfolded!! I had a sideshow of all your warnings to us on threads past - you were so right omg

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I had hoped I'd be wrong! But the last drama also had an excellent setup and so many interesting and satisfying ways it could have gone, that were then completely squandered. Not to mention the pacing.

I also suspect that the writer is more interested in the idol and music stuff than the murder mystery, and that's why the murder mystery was not very well written. That is just a hunch though based off of the similarities between the last drama and this one, I have no real proof.

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We missed your warning amidst the pretty ... we will learn from Ye Bun of Behind Your Touch how to say "no".

Ignoring the (unexpressive) face card in MLL we should have said "pass" like Hong-jo of Destined With You. But can someone explain how is Minhyun so ebgaging and expressive as an idol!

Am I the only one who thought Minhyun was more handsome (or shot really well) and a tad more expressive in Alchemy of Souls.
Now that I think of it "everybody" looked really really good in AoS ... did they all get blessed with the Fair Skin Spell!

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You're not alone - I think also because AoS Yul was tortured but put together, where as Do-ha is just frazzled and everything is a mess around him rip

And I also find that with a fair few idol actors, that they seem way more expressive on stage and in MVs than when acting. I wonder though if it's because idol energy is much more exaggerated and animated, plus you have the movements of the choreo that really help enhance expressions. But acting for dramas requires a bit more nuance and depth.

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You are so accurate. "...nuance and depth" in acting allows an actor to even overcome the limitations of the script.

They are so engaging to watch that you are still able to tag along with the character in their journey.

This role has been an unfortunate choice for Minhyun. We are sure he will learn with time and wish him the best.

This reminds me of that AoS story where they said the rookie actress playing Mu Deok-i felt pressured and had to be replaced by Jung So-min.

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I also think it's waaaay easier to act and emote while singing than it is talking or doing other things (speaking as a singer who is trying to break into community musical theatre). Music is all about emotional expression.

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Dang, I should have looked up the writer's past work. >_>

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My Lord, the way you express yourself are chef's kiss!

"Trying to out-Heartbeat Heartbeat, are we?"

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At first I didn't like the reveal of the CEO friend having feelings for him and then I just felt bad for him. This guy's whole world came crashing down in a matter of weeks but this was the straw that broke his back. I thought the actor did such a good job portraying that panic attack; it really did seem like his throat was tightening and I was wondering if he was gonna pass out. He truly looked like he was overwhelmed and had a bunch of thoughts going though his head and I just have alot of praise for his acting in the last episode or those last scenes in particular.

The more I think about it, the sadder I find his character. I don't typically care about characters and their one sided/unrequited loves/crushes but in this particular instance, it made me feel so bad for him especially since he really does care for him. This is the epitome of complicated to me.

I know others can be cut & dry about it: he let Do Ha get blamed for someone's death and kept the truth a secret for years which tramatized Do Ha and inadvertedly led to someone else being nearly killed but I still think it's a situation that could have alot of mixed and conflicting feelings.

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Thank you for your perspective about Deuk-chan. I think you are spot on. Our gripe is about the callous way they treated the reveal about his mis-deeds - "Ah but he is gay".

This one note treatment of LGBTQ+ characters in mainstream dramas is galling. While their real life treatment is - to use an understatement - a work-in-progress. Therefore we hope our dramas can do better. BL dramas also can be pretty unrealistic - swinging to another side of the spectrum.

Yoon Ji-on is a really good actor and he really gave it his all in the scene - one could see his lifetime of pent up emotions pouring forth. I'm not surprised by his last minute dash - my feeling is that he is still closeted (but his brother seems to know) and his go-to strategy is to deny or run away from his reality at all given times.

Now looking back I think I did sense a bit of tamped down stress in all his interactions with Do-ha but I put that down to his concern about his friend. His only one genuine relationship seems to be with the daughter which we don't know is his or not.

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I'm not trying to go down the rabbit hole of queer/LGBT+ representation cause that can just be a landmine.

Like I said, I can totally see why that could be an interpretation and people can have that gripe.

I don't *think* that was the intent and I don't think his feelings are gonna be used to dismiss or minimize what happened. As of these episodes, I'm thinking what happened was an accident and not some jealousy induced action. I would hope that's what happened cause otherwise that makes the situation look even worse.

I didn't know the paternity of his daughter was up for debate but again, I would think that's a complicated matter for him. On the one hand, it doesn't matter because he clearly loves & cares about her anyway but on the hand, if others found she wasn't his daughter, the daughter could be the target of judgements, criticism, rumors, etc. She may even have to deal with that if/when it's revealed that he supposedly killed a woman cause he had romantic feelings for her boyfriend/his friend.

Since the mother is already divoricing him, I wouldn't be surprised if she tried or is planning to completely cut ties with him including letting him see his daughter especially after all this comes out.

Which again makes me feel sad for him.

Sidenote: I think I saw somewhere that someone said he had a loveless and/or sexless marriage. Was that said in the show? Is that why the wife asked for a divorce? I figured it had to due with the Do Ha scandal coming back up and his company being affected.

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You are right better not to go down that rabbit hole. Although we all wish and pray for better representation at least in our drama world we will probably have to wait till next week to know how the writer intends to handle this arc.

His wife was having an affair and his calm reaction to it (before the reveal) was sus ... so my conspiracy theory is that maybe even the daughter may not be his.

Will catch up the recaps next week to find out explanation (if any) by the writer ... not sure would like to watch further.

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No, it was not mentioned. That scene with the wife was barely a min.

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I think other people said it best: it'd be different if kdramas had a lot of LGBT representation.

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He really did carry that scene, you're absolutely right - I could feel the panic and suffocation through the screen when it all came falling apart.

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I'm not a fan of the "special" person losing their specialness and that's where I see the show going so that's super unappealing to me especially after she was learning to handle it better when it came to forming a more social circle.

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Absolutely, this is so random and frankly underwhelming.

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Agreed!! I didn't see this coming and I'm not happy at all if this is the direction we're going with this :(

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*steps up to podium*
*taps on mic*
*takes deep breath*

I knew it.

*exits*

Okay sure, I was extremely suspicious of Deuk-chan from day dot but then I became suspicious of like half the roll call in this show, so yeah probability would dictate that when you consider just about everyone a suspect, you’re bound to get it right but a win is a win and this has been a win for my ✨ Sus Radar ✨

In an absolute hilarious turn of events also, I somehow found myself falling for the SML this week - is it because I got to watching him doing his job instead of making sad eyes at FL? Idk what it was but it got a dry laugh out of me when I realised I was catching slight feelings for the SML, now of all times 💀

So about that reveal. I’d come to this as a possible conclusion - the same way many others also had - when I was wondering why Deuk-chan would give Do-ha an alibi if he (DC) had killed her. I guess I was also assuming that the mum would’ve known/had given money to DC for something to do with Eom-ji’s death, so that bit was surprising, when we found out that she did all this under the mistaken belief that her son was the culprit lol. I will say though, that it feels like a mess in terms of narrative choices still. Although my prediction was right, it was less ‘aha!’ and more ‘oh no!’ - we really could’ve written this out way better I think.

Also I’m not sure if it’s just because I’m tired and projecting, but it feels like both Minhyun and Sohyun are running on the last bit of petrol in the tank with their acting. Reactions and actions seem a bit mechanical, dialogue feels uneventfully delivered. Didn’t really feel the partnership per se emotionally, though I can see it ‘on paper’ given how they’ve been supportive of each other throughout their Scooby Doo shenanigans. I especially liked that scene where Do-ha was like ‘I’m sorry if it felt like I was harsh towards you’ and Sol-hee was like ‘Yeah I was a bit disappointed but I get it’. Communication!! Not jumping to extremes!! Understanding one another!! Couples don’t always have to be all fireworks and overflowing poetic waxing, and I appreciate that our OTP are on the quieter but strong and steady side of things.

Also the lack of ‘oomph’ (a very professional term yes) that I’m feeling with their acting might just have to do with the fact that the focus is now on untangling the story and less on characterisation as it was before too, but even then the plot also does feel like it’s on it’s crawling to the finish line now.

It’s been said a lot but I’ll add it in again; this really could’ve and should’ve been a 12 episode drama. We’ll see how next week goes but I feel like I’m going to end up classifying this one as a drama that was entertaining but became a little bit disappointingly bland and messy towards the final stretch.

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*the plot also does feel like it's crawling to the finish line

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Right, we saw the 2ML being SO competent and then the ML just IMO having questionable judgment. It was difficult for me, lol

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I can see how it looks like Do-ha has questionable judgement, but this whole situation must have been so rough emotionally that I'm ready to give him a pass. He would get totally paralyzed at the beginning of the show at the thought of anyone digging into the past, and now he's just been forced to think about it nonstop and even do some of the investigative work himself when the police wouldn't do anything. And I can understand his desire to trust Deuk-chan, his friend who has been his ally through 15 years of his life.

No disagreement about Kang-min though. He's been a solid cop from the beginning and I was happy to see more of it!

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I agree!! Could understand Do-ha's mental space these past few episodes, but unfortunately it also did mean my attention was more on the SML who was working smarter - I think also part of it is because it felt like Minhyun's acting was quite underwhelming this week compared to previous weeks so although I could sympathise with the facts, I wasn't able to connect as much emotionally with what I was seeing on screen.

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It's not so much about his judgment with his friends as it is just the way he investigated Eum-ji's death by himself. Like, some of it you have to wonder if he even had a plan.

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Well, like I said earlier, 2ML is a trained cop, the ML is not so wouldnt it be more bizarre if he is better in investigating? Of course he will bungle his way there. I mean, I would find it more ridiculous if the writer suddenly made ML a superhero by gaining investigative skills overnight.

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honestly, if anything i just give myself to be harsh on doha. 😅 guy's been through a whole lot.
irl someone like him would crumble again if solhee or his support system is gone. (ive seen many cases of this so..)
imo he deserves an apology from most characters in this show.

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* ... i just cant give*

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No worries ... please feel free to give ....

.... yourself wholeheartedly to Minhyun 😉

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‘Sus radar’ - a thing of beauty! And take your win and run with it for sure.
As much as I like HMH’s presence, he doesn’t seem as yet to have the tools to make the craft of acting come to life in a sustained and emotionally resonant way. I’m not sure whether it is also influenced by his RL personality but it isn’t enough to be soulful and likeable. He has to do the emotional and intellectual heavy lifting to be a resonant and memorable ML. I hope he gets there.
And, if a drama is going to make an LGBTIQ person a villain -which in an ideal world should not raise red flags but in this imperfect world of ours and given the existing hostility to and discrimination against the LGBTIQ people in SK - at least have the decency to tell a coherent story about a complex character who will not appeal to the worst prejudices of some of the viewers. It is not too much to ask but clearly beyond the ability of this writer.

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I agree, and what bothers me most about the Deuk-chan reveal is that it's too close to not simply making him a villain who happens to be gay, but one who became a villain because he's gay. Credit to Yoon Ji-on for making the character as sympathetic as he is considering the crappy writing.

Also, the whole ring thing didn't make any sense. Wearing it is going to make him and Do-ha a couple? Are we supposed to see Deuk-chan in hindsight as the equivalent of those insufferably jealous, possessive SFLs who think that destroying the ML's relationship and publicly staking a claim will bring him around to her? He deserves better.

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@elinor: Spot on. As you said, it is hard not to see the storyline depicting him as “he was a villain because he was gay” and making the third ring a transparent homophobic spin on the “hysterical and jealous woman” trope. I don’t care what the final week’s reveals would be as this narrative colours the entire story arch. It remains not only weak storytelling but insidiously stigmatising and dehumanising.

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Both of you summed up my thoughts too on this aspect of the 'twist', a shame honestly that we went down this route :( it'll be interesting to see what actually happened last week - I'm hoping they'll salvage it a bit by making it an accidental death, maybe they argued, he pushed or something, she hit her head and he panicked.

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Completely agree with everything you've said, I felt the exact same way. Minhyun had been doing decently but there were some pretty noticeable gaps this week in terms of where the story needed him to go emotionally vs what he gave. Tbh KSH was rhe same for me, she felt quite disconnected from everything going on but it could also be because screenplay didn't give her much to work.

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"‘Sus radar’ - a thing of beauty! And take your win and run with it for sure.
As much as I like HMH’s presence, he doesn’t seem as yet to have the tools to make the craft of acting come to life in a sustained and emotionally resonant way."

👏👏👏👏

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Although my prediction was right, it was less ‘aha!’ and more ‘oh no!’ - we really could’ve written this out way better I think.

Hear hear !!  👏👏👏

Very very well expressed. Agree on all your points.

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My first thought on finishing ep 14 was disappointment. The writers chose the only LGBTQ+ character in this drama to be the bad guy. The closeted gay man murdered his crush's girlfriend out of jealousy. Not cool, show.

How awful for Do Ha, his long time friend. I felt for him here.

I've long suspected Deuk Chan. This would explain why he trusted Do Ha (he knew who the real killer was) and why he created an alibi (to protect himself while appearing to protect Do Ha).

What doesn't make sense to me was why Deuk Chan chose that night to approach Eom Ji. He heard they'd fought and perhaps knew they'd split up. So why then, rather than when that couple were happy together? What was his plan bringing her into the woods? Threat, or murder? Did he choose that location because he knew there was a convenient grave there? Was he that diabolical to choose that night because Do Ha would be suspected after their public argument? Did he think that he could swoop in and be the hero, protecting Do Ha, perhaps guessing most people would be wary of Do Ha the suspected murderer, so he could have a monopoly on him, as the caring friend?? And his suicide plan, what, just...what?! His words to Do Ha at the ceremony made it sound like he was planning suicide. Then why put his brother in prison?

I'm glad Do Ha's rotten mom was exposed for who she really was. And that Do Ha pointed out the obvious when she tried to blame him. No sympathy.

I am still pleased that our couple have stayed together and been strong for each other. I'm also enjoying their expanding group of supportive and caring friends. The surprise party was awesome! I'm thinking Sol Hee is going to need support next, as I'm guessing she will discover she's lost her lie detector from that explosion. Will she be relieved, or sad? And if this is the outcome she will need a new career.

One more week! Let's go.

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Honestly, I did think of it as it could be read as the "queer guy is the killer" which is why I initially didn't like it. I don't *think* that was the intent but I could definitely see how that could be the takeaway.

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I loved the party too! It was so sweet of them to make him feel better amongst all the complex emotions he had about the whole situation.

I also think Sol-hui has lost her powers. I think it will take some time to adjust, but that overall she will be fine with it. It's been such a burden to her in all her relationships. But she'll have to learn to trust people!

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I also like that the new group of friends cheered him up. It was lowkey and private and meant only to encourage him. It was not as if they all went out and held a festival somewhere so I dont get why it would be inappropriate.

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Exactly. This was a small gathering of people in an otherwise empty bar, with cake and conversation. They had all gotten to know Do Ha and recognized how much he had struggled, for five years. He had been forced to create a new identity and hide, masked and alone, because of false accusations. His new friends wanted to acknowledge that and celebrate his new freedom. I didn't feel it was disrespectful to Eom Ji.

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i knew Deuk-chan was the murderer but i didn't predict he had feelings. now THAT threw me! they were clever enough to write him as a husband and father but i'm still mad at myself for not being able to predict this twist.

now...

the fact that this man married and had a kid means he really tried to get over his feelings so i do feel for him. but the mental anguish you put your "loved" one through is not love but obsession. someone can fight me but that's extremely problematic. but then again, the ex girl was quite toxic and i'm hoping the murder was an accident. but still. ok i am just conflicted at this point. sad as well. poor thing. but not poor thing. true love wants the best for the person, not the worst. WHERE ARE THESE KIDS PARENTS? why are they not good people? children can't raise themselves on their own.

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Do Ha was really surrounded by toxic people!! His mom, his ex gf, his singer friend, his ex gf's brother, his friend's brother who kept hitting him up for cash... And now one of very few people who seemed to care for him was also just obsessed and selfish.

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Music seems to have kept Do-ha grounded. Pouring out his emotions in song writing acted like therapy and helped him survive.

It took genuine efforts from Sol-hee to make an initial connection but her trust in him (because of her power) and mutual attraction helped him open up to her in a natural manner.

The betrayal by Deuk-chan really feels like the last straw.

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Good point about his music. Music can definitely be healing.

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I know there are lots of feelings about the direction this show went (and rightly so!) but I thought the twist itself was done well. It’s very possible that I’m just not a suspicious person, and I was definitely sure that Deuk-chan was up to something that he wasn’t being honest about, but I never suspected that he had the ring made to match Seung-joo’s, not Eom-ji’s. I was totally convinced it belonged to Shady Brother from his stalking activities. And for a long time I didn’t really suspect Deuk-chan of the actual murder because (well, because I was ready to call it a suicide too, but also) I couldn’t think of sufficient motive for him. He still doesn’t really have a full-on one, so I hope they give us some more explanation next week.

That said, I really wish the drama hadn’t made him into a scarily obsessive character (at least it seems that way?) who is also gay. There is not enough good representation of LGBTGIA+ characters in dramaland, so to have the only one in this show turn out to be the murderer was not a good look, to say the least. For me though, it’s not quite as much of a travesty as it could have been because I find him a really sympathetic character too. He’s made so many awful decisions, but I believed him when he said that he regretted it and kept the evidence so he could turn himself in one day. He’s also had some really lovely, genuine interactions with people in this drama (why I liked him so much), and I felt legitimately bad for him when everything around him started to crumble. I hope he lives a long time to pay for what he did, but I don’t hate him as a character, and I’m grateful for that at least.

Do-ha’s mom is a piece of work. Definitely in the running for one of the worst drama moms of the year. She held up an investigation that would have cleared her son’s name for five years because she didn’t believe in his innocence, and then has the audacity to blame it on anyone besides herself. I hope he can finally be rid of her after this. And speaking of moms, Sol-hui’s dad absolutely laying down the law to her mom over the phone gave me so much life. More of that please! I hope everyone gets to live musically ever after next week, and they wrap things up well for all the characters I still care about (i.e. not Shady Brother, who still doesn’t deserve to have me learn his name, I’ve decided).

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I don’t think Deuk Chan has been characterized as obsessive so far, so I think it more likely that either someone else killed Eom Ji and DC covered it up thinking Do Ha would be blamed, or Eom Ji accidentally died while with DC and he covered it up also to prevent suspicion from falling on DH. These scenarios seem more in line with the story so far, I mean he did create a business and maintain a genuine friendship with the object of his affection — doesn’t seem too volatile to me but who knows?

DC’s crush is literally the only romantic thing of interest in this show. I could care less about Mr Robot and Wednesday Adams or puppy dog policeman. It’s just not written well enough to be entertaining.

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Sigh, it is inching along lol. Deuk Chan was suspected weeks ago so this came as no surprise. As for him being in love with Do Ha, sigh, okay.... That being said HMH is really bad in the emotional scenes, it is hard to watch. I am also really happy Kang Min didn't become annoying, SJH really needs to lead a drama next, the acting difference is STARK.

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Yeah, that scene you could just see the effort of him making himself cry. Esp compared to his best friend's acting later on

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While I still enjoy watching Do-ha and Sol-hee be a couple I have to admit Hwang min-hyun is struggling to carry the plot now that the narrative focus has shifted entirely to his character. His emotional acting was quite decent during the first half when we were still discovering the reclusive Kim do-ha but maybe the filming process was too long and he's exhausted but he's really struggling to emote in these last few episodes.

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His weakness are the crying scenes but he does fairly well in the angry scenes. Yes, he is green compared to 2ML, but i am going to be the meanie who will say that 2ML's pained gaze is one note to me. Even when he was supposed to be happy or angry, he still had that pained gaze (LOL).

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Lol, I have to disagree, for me anything that requires excessive emotion is very difficult for him. Even the angry scenes all I see his the effort it is taking for him to be angry. He just isn't a good actor. As for the 2ML's pained gaze, I'd have to see him play a joyful role before I can make more of a comment. Every role I have seen him requires sadness, so who is to say.

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I am surely not qualified to judge whether an actor is good or not, so lets just say I agree to disagree , as it is after all our own viewing experience and perspectives. For now, lets just say that if I am asked to name actors that impressed me with their acting, I won't be thinking of both of them.

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I haven't been invested in this story lately, just chugging along. I had to get on here and mention the parts that bugged me though.

The party was a terrible idea. Why did they have to celebrate his name getting cleared? Everyone finally learned what happened to Eom Ji. She wasn't missing. She actually died. Sure, Do Ha wasn't her boyfriend anymore, but I would have thought he needed some time to process her passing.

I thought it was strange that Sol Hee dropped the bomb about Deuk Chan on Do Ha during a phone call. I guess it was the only way to reach him and she couldn't waste time....

Poor Deuk Chan. The twist of him being gay was unexpected. There's already little representation of LGBTQ+ characters in kdramas, but they had to make him a villain here. They could have written him differently. It feels like they wanted a shock factor more than giving his character some nuance. He could have been angry at Eom Ji for taking up Do Ha's time or distracting him from music. I didn't care for his character, but now he is too tragic of one so I feel a little bad for him. I feel somewhat manipulated in feeling this way though. He still committed an awful crime and should be punished by the law.

Got to give props to Yoon Ji On. He did well in the last scene with Sol Hee.

Sol Hee losing her uniqueness would be another bad move by the writer. It would be better to see her happily accepting her ability and being proud of it.

Looking for the lost turtle? Straight up filler.

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I am with you on reserving judgment on Deuk Chan until next week. There seems to be more to the story. But the show handled that last twist very messily. I honestly do not think he deserved to die. I like to think he genuinely cared for Do Ha so it does not make sense for him to kill off the ex-gf and allow his friend to take the blame for 5 years. I would like the writer to make it make sense.

HMH sadly was not able to handle the heavy scenes. It looked awkward. Like that scene when he was trying to emote and their neighborhood group felt sorry for him. I cringed for him.

Another, don't get me started on that "party". Yes its good that he is no longer a murder suspect. But its not a simple breakup that you congratulate someone from ending a bad relationship. The ex-gf was still killed and he still cared for that ex-gf. Wtf!

I hope this show ends well so I can remember it fondly unlike the other recent drama.

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I can't believe this.

Despite dropping the drama after ep11, I kept up with recaps and discussions and my god this was not the direction I thought the show would take???
My initial theory was that Syaon was Eomji, she faked her death and went under the knife hence it would explain her obsessive behavior towards Do-ha and boy do I prefer my theory compared to this.

Just how appealing is Do-ha that he has so many people obsessed with him???

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He just seems so... blank. Hardly a ball of charisma, lol. Maybe it's the musician thing

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I actually found his common facial expression--that is, as you say, blank, somewhat bewildered, and melancholy--to be effective in some of these scenes as he found out his friend betrayed him. Unfortunately, there were some other scenes that required a genuine, full smile, and that was a little beyond his acting ability.

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"My initial theory was that Syaon was Eomji"

Yay ... I thought so too! We DB wooga squad can definitely write better scripts!!

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Like @mistyisles and @jillian, I am also reserving final judgment until next week, but I truly cannot imagine what this writer's going to do to redeem themselves not only from the narrative mess they've made, but also from the direct disservice that their sloppy and insensitive characterization has done so far to the LBGTQ+ community.

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The only reason I'd slightly disagree with this (and I'm talking about ONLY MY opinion here) is the suggestion that this show in fact has enough weight to do a "disservice." Maybe if the gay character in "My Dearest" is evil (I'm not watching that show, so I wouldn't know) that would be a disservice, because its a widely watched show that is highly praised. This show will disappear and be largely forgotten week after it finishes, so it won't serve or disserve anything.

There is so much in popular culture to be irritated with or angry about that I have to reserve my emotional energy for things that have some significance, unlike this show!

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I would stand behind my carefully chosen, deeply felt, words here even if this drama had only ever been—or would ever be—seen by a single, solitary, human being.

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Yes, of course. As I've said before, my words on Dramabeans are always hastily chosen, but I also have arrived at my "pragmatic outrage" position through careful consideration. Otherwise I'd always be frothing at the mouth about politics and social justice issues and be known as the Dramabeans Angry Guy.

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Thanks for the write-up. I agree completely. It sucks to make the only confirmed gay character commit murder (or maybe only manslaughter, we don't know) out of some bizarre unrequited love. I guess I want imaginary gardens with real toads in them (that's a quote from a poem I liked as a kid.) The plot can be as silly as it wants, I just want the emotions and motivations of the characters to make some kind of sense. Yoon Ji-on could do a lot with better parts, and I don't just mean less villainous ones! I mean, if he can do this much with parts that don't make much sense, imagine what he can do when the part has some kind of logic to it.

I am developing a theory of the second male lead. They must be more handsome and better than the male lead! Otherwise, there would be no contest. Perhaps it always has to happen that the 2ML is better in every way, but the ML has something that the FL needs? This show's story certainly leans in that direction. Two competent, good looking guys, one is decent and true and brave, but the other never lies and is sensitive and creative. It's important to the FL to get the guy with the face like a boiled egg....

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"Imaginary gardens with real toads" - i love that!

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It's Poetry by Marianne Moore. It was, when I was younger, a very well-known poem. I liked it out of loyalty to the only female poet anyone ever mentioned, and all these years later that one phrase pops into my head all the time.

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Wow, that was a new one on me, thanks for sharing. She has an interesting style, and is queen of the long sentence!

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Ha! OK. Well, she thought so too. She republished it over a 50 year period. By the end the whole poem was just three lines long. https://www.slate.com/articles/arts/poem/2009/06/marianne_moores_poetry.html It's weird to be engaged in a deep, compulsive dive into genre fiction (romance after romance! science fiction, murder mystery...) with this in the back of my head--what is literature for, anyway? What are we dealing with here?

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I don't think Eom Ji's death was intentional. I'm thinking she and the CEO friend got into an argument/fight which involved the rings. She probably called him out on his feelings, maybe he called her out on being obsessive which led to her hitting him and he pushed her leading to her dying with the ring near her.

It just doesn't seem in character for him to maliciously murder her even if it were in a moment of jealousy. I mean the singer was obsessive and led to Do Ha's discomfort a few times and he never acted in a malicious way towards her. (Yeah, she was face & talent of his company but he could've treated her with threats or scoldings but he was endlessly patient & considerate. Or am I not remembering right? I was never particularly into this show so I maybe forgetting what's happened)

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I think the brother's confession is what really happened with Deuk Chan. He pushed her, she fell and died, he covered it up.

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While like everyone else, I suspected Deuk-Chan, and I also don't like the gay angle, there are still 2 episodes left, and I have a feeling there will some even more ridiculous twist. In fact I might suggest a few:

1. Doon-ha did indeed commit the murder,and that's why Sol-hee's alarm bell went off, and Deuk-chan is covering for him. This will come out in the next episode, and the last episode will be Sol-hee reconciling with everybody's favorite good looking policeman.

2. Do-ha is in fact gay himself, he and Deuk-chan were a couple, and Deuk-chan killed Eom-ji when she threatened to expose them. Deuk-chan goes to prison, and Do-ha and Kang-min fall in love and leave town. This ending is bittersweet, because Sol-hee is left temporarily alone, but there are suggestions that she and the baker will become a couple.

3. A final, "meta" possibility--with the ending looming, the camera zooms out, showing the camera crew, the director, the set, and the director says: "this whole show was a lie! All shows are lies!" and a loud bell goes off as the everything fades to black.

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😆 I love option 3 the most.

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😄 My votes go to options 2 & 3!! @hacja we need you to write a drama or two

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Even though I like this couple quite a bit I have to admit the drama has lost a lot of its charm once it decided to focus entirely on the mystery aspect and used it to keep the couple apart. Sol-hee using her powers to help Do-ha came far too late and by which time I feel most of the characters have become one-note and exist purely to react to Do-ha and things that happen to him. I still don't understand why Dad was bought in expect to serve as filler but the scenes with Ahn nae-sang and Kim so-hyun were at least easy to watch because the emotional scenes with Do-ha have been very hard to watch. Hwang min-hyun did quite well in the first half of the drama with the trauma and panic attack but he's struggling in the second half. I feel like it has to do with the writing falling apart and too many filler scenes that have flattened the bits that made the characters in this drama interesting. I'm also disappointed at how poorly they've utilized Sol-hee and her powers but mostly at how Kim so-hyun is just there to fill screen-time. The only thing I liked this week was the interrogation scene with her in the prison but even then the logic and writing for it were pretty bad. I'm not surprised that the CEO is the real killer and while I don't think he killed her because of jealously I found the LGTBQI+ reveal about his character to be more for shock value than anything. Especially the attempted suicide at the end was very dramatic for the sake of being dramatic. I can't believe the only way they can make Sol-hee lose her powers is through an explosion. Overall I feel the drama lost a lot of its sparkle post episode 10 and could have been better off being a 10-12 episode drama because the first half was really fun and the chemistry was very good. I hope the last 2 episodes can somehow bring back the charm of the drama and while not hopeful I do hope Sol-hee doesn't lose her powers because the interactions with her clients was some of the best parts of the drama. It was interesting to see her grow and learn more about her powers and start to trust and make friends despite her ability. I still want to remember this drama fondly so I do hope they land the ending.

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I'm with you on the 'the drama lost it's charm when it started focusing on the mystery' take! I also think there's just one too many characters/sub-plots and it increasingly feels like the a good chunk of the cast is tired and slipping with their acting - especially HMH - but then the plot is also following suit and unravelling (in a bad way lol). Wish they'd kept this a pure romance story or something, or even just a 'fantasy romance' and keep the whole lie detector superpower thing but do away with everything else.

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For the first half the mystery part was nicely embedded into the plot especially in episode 4 and the ending of episode 8 where it contributed to the leads growing closer to each other. At some point the drama became a collection of filler scenes and the mystery element kept the leads apart and for some reason everyone except Do-ha had nothing to do to move the plot forward and everyone just looks exhausted and disconnected. They had the ingredients for a good drama and was doing a pretty good job balancing the mystery plot but they wanted to drag out the reveal for as long as possible and everything became a mess. The lie detector superpower should have stayed at the center of the plot because now its just a convenient plot device and nothing more. The couple scenes are also starting to feel forced even though I still like them together. I'm going to finish this because of Kim so-hyun but if they at least land the ending I'm willing to forgive all the messiness.

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I’m traveling today and have been unable to see these episodes. Looks like a doozy. Can’t wait for tomorrow

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I don't really have anything to add that hasn't already been said about these two episodes. I absolutely prefer the scenario that @mistyisles put forward. It would have worked so much better thematically. A lot of what kept me watching this show was the cute dynamic and chemistry between the two leads, and I felt that was really missing in these 2 episodes. Their interactions seemed a little awkward.
Also, 2ML needs to move up to lead in his next drama. I don't know if he's shining by comparison, but the difference in acting ability is so noticeable.

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At some point, someone will turn me in for being repetitive, but Seo Ji Hoon will be the male (and I believe romantic) lead in King of Saju which recently completed filming. There isn't very much info on this - appears to be a studio production probably looking for a streaming platform.

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Good to know.
We're ready. 👩‍💻

Hwaiting!! 😃

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These episodes werent' very clear about Sol-Hee and her father. He has the same power or not? It wasn't clear during the meal. I thought it was the mother's prayers... And why she seems to love him so much when it looks like he abonned her to her mother knowing she's awful?

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Thanks for the weecap @mistyisles so it’s just me that is baffled by the examples of Scooby doo 101 when we have just been shown there is a police officer who is good at his job.

Exhibit one: Solhee is in a police station chatting to a prisoner to get him to reveal the info they need to clear the case. Is that info going to be usable to tie things up?

Exhibit two: rather than debrief so the police can go to the office and collect the evidence that will clear the case, Solhee heads off at speed to sort it herself.

Exhibit three: when arresting a suspect do not ensure he is handcuffed and told his rights instead go from a two person hold to one person holding him loosely and walking him to the car.

Exhibit four: when the suspect runs off and drives off at speed get four people into the car that is following as that extra weight and the non police officers are needed at this crucial time.

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I don't think the exhibit one was stupid. Kang-min had doubts but no proof. So Sol-Hee could help him to know if it's over or if he had to continue the investigation.

But the way she did it didn't make really sense. She could ask him very directly, why asking weird questions where her gift couldn't work very well?

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But she didn't need it.

KM needed to know if he was lying. They couldn't use this talk for the official investigation. KM could put pressure on him later.

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Yes yes yes yes to all of your examples - I was thinking ALL of those thoughts too!! Why did she run off without telling KM what she'd found out?? Why did they all need to pile into the car for a chase??? Why did no-one just make the brother try the ring on to see if it was even his size (I mean he could've had the same ring size as DC but still why wasn't this done)?? Why did Kang-min not call for back up (honestly this one is also on SH though because if she'd told him before she ran off, he could've gotten back-up ready)??

Also was kind of frustrating that Kang-min's cop buddy seems literally useless (although really nice hahaha) in terms of catching criminals and making headway with investigations.

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‘Also was kind of frustrating that Kang-min's cop buddy seems literally useless (although really nice hahaha) in terms of catching criminals and making headway with investigations.‘ 👈🏾 exactly, why is he there?!

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Because who else was going to show Kang-min that video which got him obsessed with Do-ha and activated his teleportation powers. Honestly I don't understand why half the characters are there since they serve no purpose. In the beginning it felt like they wanted to build an interesting universe for our leads by having them meet all these new people but now I'm not so sure.

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"and activated his teleportation powers" 😂 😂 😂 I wonder if Kang-min's origin story is somewhere in the Moving universe??

And yeah with the set up, it feels like they tried and then kind of gave up and tried to just shoehorn all the random extras in the story here and there.

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@mistyisles

Thank you for such a clear-sighted recap amongst the dizzying mess of the plot and its twists.

The writers sure seem to be over-stressing their points that:
(a) trust needs to be 100% or it’s useless, and that
(b) truth - or what one believes to be the truth - is more complex than what you "hear".

I would be really invested in a drama which builds up these two points through various characters arcs.

The leads, their respective mothers, the three villainous bros (including ex-gf's bro), even our SL, all seemed poised at a point where they would all in their own way have such a revelation.

Even Sol-hee’s dad who seems to have already had this realization just dumped his little girl and (literally) ran for the hills instead of taking her responsibility and helping her better understand and use her powers.

We have our leads imbibing these points and showing character growth by deepening their relationship with mutual trust and being their true self with each other.

However with all other characters each (seeming) step forward leads nowhere. Ex-gf's bro's realization that he was the one who told his sister to focus only on Do-ha was a lot opportunity as he went right back to his stabby ways.

Thus, till now writers don't seem to be walking down the path where their talk seems to be leading to ... and with only two more episodes it may be too little too late, even if they take Jang Shin-yu's expert help in resolving other people's messes!

As you so accurately put it -

"I’d have preferred a scenario where Eom-ji’s death was an accident and Deuk-chan, genuinely believing Do-ha did it, covered it up to protect him."

Also, such a sad treatment of Deuk-chan's character. He really seemed to love his little daughter. When will our dramas give due respect to LGBTQ+ characters... but then I guess that is why we have BL dramas.

Guess My Lovely Liar will go down that list of interesting premise, good start, cute otp, swoons from Minhyun's piano skills, great set-up for tarot cafe .... then mess, messier and drop like a hot potato.

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As everything has been already said, I'll only add that imo the main couple lacks of chemistry. They are starting their "love story" and it still seems they are two neighbours/friends who are quite confortable with each other's company, but that's all. I never thought they had chemistry but at least in the first half of the show their scenes weren't so boring 😅

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*I meant they seem like two neighbours or newly friends who are confortable IN each other's company.

When they were looking for the turtle I had to convince myself they were a couple in love.

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As we were discussing in the fan wall, this series has too many filler scenes.

I copy from there:

Why were all the neighbours in the drama? Serious question. If it was to give a sense of found family, they have failed (imo). If the writer wanted to show that ML finally starts to have a healthy social life, it could have been shown differently in the last episodes, without wasting time in subplots which went nowhere.

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Did anyone else feel like they cut out a lot of the story with the salad girl and the bar guy? Like, they used to date? All of a sudden he was jealous of her new BF? Did I miss something?

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I both applaud the introduce of an LGBT character and deplore its poor execution. Killing out of love is such a common trope, but killing out of single-sided and secrete love feels truly hard to believe.

I would have much preferred to see a different plot line with a different murder and have Deuk-Chan and his husband supporting Do-ha throughout his quest to reveal the truth.

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There was the one scene were Do Ha had to be surprised... and Min Hyun had the less surprised/perplexed face of all the drama. Pity.

So the theme of the week is BL in mainstream drama with idol ? That was unexpected.

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Personally, I kinda laughed during the scene he was supposed to look charismatic against the gangsters. He puffed out his chest like a little rooster.

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I'm not very attentive when he's on screen... [i was searching for Fake it till you make it music]

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During the scene where he's crying, my husband said it looked like he was smelling an onion.

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I'm waiting until the finale to pass final judgement. So far, I think the writers have done a good job of writing a "who done it". Maybe there's another twist or two to be revealed? Deuk-chan being in love with ML makes sense to me, but it doesn't make sense that he killed the girlfriend and let everyone believe ML had done it. I think, like ML's mom, he assumed DoHa killed her, and has been working with the mother to cover it up ever since. I'm really hoping these writers get it right.

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I dont think there’d be another twist as to who did it and making mum the murderer seems more problematic to me. Maybe it was an accident and Deuk Chan didn’t think that far ahead. Perhaps he started to leave things as they are when he started seeing how dependent Doha is to him

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"We aDoha you" got me like 🥺🥺🥺

The plot twist (that we all saw coming) just felt a lil homophobic to me. In the year of our Lord 2023, the writers just said, "the killer was a evil gay man this whole time"!! And Doha, frankly, I'd be more offended with the fact that he killed your ex and framed you for 5 years... than with him being in love with you... didn’t like the writing there at all.

If an exploding car "cures" her of her abilities next week, then ik for certain that the drama has gone off the rails. Like what??

and not Solhee confronting killers on her own, without her professional bodyguard, multiple times. we stan an unbothered queen

but I must admit, the party scene was really cute and him telling off his mom was cathartic. the jealousy and oppa scene next week also seems adorable.

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Clearly in the minority but I love this show even more and felt that it’s finally back on track this week!

I feel like people often forget or don’t bother considering that HMH is only on his first *real* lead role. I get that he still has a way to go but it’s just sad that he’s consistently being compared to the SML who has been acting in how many dramas now? Yes, people need to show they deserve the role they’ve been entrusted with but there’s a difference between constructive criticisms and basically just putting other people down. Anyway, I see HMH is doing his best and he’s been steadily improving over the course of the drama. I particularly love the scene where he overheard DC’s confession. 🍑

I love that Solhee is back to being her cool self and it’s great that she has a major role in getting to the bottom of the mystery. I just find it completely unreal that she can so easily access Deuk Chan’s office, even if she has Jae Chan’s ID. I hope the origin of her powers will be clarified next week because it sounded like her dad actually passed it down on her. Or I probably missed something.

Going to the big reveal - yeah, I totally got it wrong. I don’t think the writer did it to paint gays or the LGBTQ+ in a negative way. Probably chose it for the impact. If anything, I love Doha but I really felt sad for Deuk Chan. I think it was an accident. In the preview, it sounded like Eomji knows about his feelings so maybe they argued and the truth is not very far from Jae Chan’s statements. And of course murder is terrible but the other Doha-obsessed ladies don’t look like they won’t be able to commit such a thing.

I appreciate now why the writer chose to conceal a lot of the events earlier in the drama. The pay off was worth it! That said I still think we could have had better filler or maybe I won’t mins having a 12-episode drama instead if I dont need to sit through the SH’s mom’s scenes (how does she not run out of those ancient prospects?) or salad girl and bar owner — but I appreciate the party they threw for Doha. Eomji’s been dead for years and they don’t know the girl so why would people think they’d be sensitive about the confirmation of her death? The party was simply meant to celebrate Doha’s innocence and I didn’t find it off at all.

I hope they show wraps up in a good way next week and I hope Solhee will get whichever she really desires — get rid of the power she never asked for and finally be ‘normal’ or keep and embrace it now that she appreciates having one!

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I knew that Deuk Chan was in love with Do ha when he found out his wife was cheating;
1) He was literally shaking his leg waiting for Doha to text him back. That's why he didn't even notice his wife was texting someone else.
2) Which man finds out his wife is cheating and doesn't do anything. No crying, no yelling , no filing for divorce. Nothing. ......... ...

Other than that, I didn't think he killed Eom ji. I spent this whole episode beng suspicious of him and I also think we are being led to think that he is way more malicious than he is.

For example, when he gives up the CEO position to Doha, I was giving him some serious side eye. But when Doha declined, he asked him to accept it. Genuinely.

And after the party, he was going to turn himself in. That's why he was in his office. But then Solhee already has the evidence and Doha finds out so instead he chooses death. Why do writers like culprits committing suicide once they are found out? (crash course in romance, I am looking at you. )

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Finally got my Wi-Fi back, starting to catch up on the shows.
Episode 13 was all about Kang Min’s detective work. Nothing much else stood out.
So he let Do Ha take the fall for years, then gaslighted him when he suspected his brother, then asked his brother to turn himself in, telling him he’ll be acquitted since there isn’t enough evidence, then when he is exposed, tries to kill himself. It’s hard to imagine that DC always meant to surrender, just needed time to settle things. I mean, initially there wasn’t even a company to protect.
I can totally see what beanies mean when they say HyunMin struggles with acting. It was pretty clear in these episodes- case in point, when Sol Hui is caught in an explosion, and he looks less shocked or traumatized than I did when I watched the real has come. It’s especially stark when you contrast him with the other actors around him, who make it seem so effortless

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Oh, thank heavens that you’ve got your connectivity back! When I read your comments earlier, I felt a little panic empathetically…so now, some relief, I hope! It can be SO frustrating to be at the whim of others when it comes to being connected…to others, of course, but mainly, to Dramabeans. 😉

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Thank you, yes. The frustration was terrible, especially since I couldn’t get in DB much!

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"and everything clicks. Deuk-chan is in love with Do-ha."
Me: DUHHHHH Sol-hee!! I could have told you that 10 episodes ago! 😂

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