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Doona: Episodes 1-2 (First Impressions)

Visually stunning and slow to get off the ground, Doona! arrives with more melancholy than it knows how to handle. Our leads are lovely to look at, as a former idol sets her sights on her new neighbor, but it lacks the sparky chemistry I was hoping would kick it into high heart-flutter gear.

Editor’s note: This is a First Impressions post only. For a place to chat about the entire drama, visit the Drama Hangout.

EPISODES 1-2

Doona!: Episodes 1-2 Suzy Yang Se-jong

Yang Se-jong! Yelling his name is really the only way I can account for the exclamation point in the show’s title. So far, there’s nothing that makes me want to holler from the rooftops about this story. It has its pros. The art direction, the frames, the lighting, the colors — and even the music — are captivating. But it’s got uneven pacing, weird transitions, and a series of scenes that are meant to build tension but somehow feel flat.

Here’s the setup. LEE WON-JOON (Yang Se-jong) has just moved to Seoul to study engineering. On the day he arrives to his new digs (roommate cameos by Kim Do-wan and Kim Min-ho), he stumbles on the morose, chain-smoking girl downstairs. He doesn’t realize it right away, but she’s the recently retired idol LEE DOONA (Suzy).

Doona!: Episodes 1-2 Suzy Yang Se-jong

The two get off on the wrong foot for a series of reasons. On her side, she thinks he’s a sasaeng who’s moved into the house to stalk her (courtesy of the borrowed hoodie he’s wearing with her former idol group on it). And on his side — much more justified — she gets him fired from his tutoring job when she blows cigarette smoke in his face and has him showing up to work smelling like a smoker.

They have their first real encounter when Doona collapses in the snow outside their shared house and Won-joon takes her to the hospital and acts as her guardian. When she’s conscious again, she curses him out but starts to show interest when she sees how attentive he is — asking the nurse questions about her health and buying her socks to keep always-bare feet warm.

The next day, she has a revamped personality, following him around with big eyes and flirty faces, asking him out to meals. He ignores her and we see a series of shots that show this becomes a routine. She wants to hangout; he avoids her at every turn. But, when he sees her against the sunlight, it’s hard to hide his attraction.

The promo for this drama led us to believe that Won-joon was the one with the crush on Doona. So far, that hasn’t been the vibe. Actually, our soft-hearted hero has an unrequited crush on his first love from high school, KIM JIN-JOO (Shin Ha-young) — who he keeps running into at his new university.

After he’s fired from his tutoring gig, he puts up fliers to snag new clients but only gets a call from Doona who’s still pestering him to hang out. She plays the call like a prank, as if she wants to hire him, before he realizes who it is — and then he yells at her for making a joke of the fact that he needs money. He sees her as pampered and privileged since she sits around the house and smokes all day, and so, after his outburst, she leaves him alone.

But it’s a great feat of reverse psychology because once she’s not waiting for him every time he steps outside, he changes course and asks her to go have that meal together. In the moment, she ignores him, but then shows up in the middle of a lecture and sits beside him in class. She’d like him to leave and go eat together now. At least he puts his foot down and tells her they have to wait until his class is over.

Doona!: Episodes 1-2 Suzy Yang Se-jong

That’s largely the entirety of Episode 1. There was so little to go on that I watched Episode 2 — not out of interest (there was no real hook at the end) — but to see if the drama would establish a clear conflict. Luckily, we learn enough about Doona in the next episode to see that she’s suffering some kind of trauma from her idol days — and it’s meant to explain her unhinged behavior.

We don’t yet know the details, but we learn she collapsed on stage during a performance while thinking about the abuses she’s endured as an idol. It also has something to do with a man (who appears to be her former manager) and the one-sided relationship they were in. Whatever the situation with this guy (who she has saved in her phone as just “P”), she’s still infatuated with him in a big way. As the episode ends, he leaves her a note while she’s out of the house and when she finds it, she runs into the street without shoes to search for him.

Doona!: Episodes 1-2 Suzy Yang Se-jong

Doona is a lonely character and I get the sense that the time she and Won-joon spend together in Episode 2 (drinking, talking, almost kissing but not) is mostly because she has no one else and he’s a nice enough guy. She feels abandoned and ignored — even Won-joon ignores her if he’s with Jin-joo — but he is taking a slow interest in her. He’s also starting to think she needs therapy, though, and his interest may be part pity.

By the end of Episode 2, Doona has at least as much interest in him as he does in her. On her birthday, she’s alone and Won-joon prepares seaweed soup and then takes her out to win a prize at a claw machine. They end up at a park where she tells him how to win over Jin-joo once and for all: just push her up against a wall and stare at her for five seconds without saying anything. What he does next is up to him.

She asks if he wants to practice on her — which he does, pressing her into an exercise machine and not breaking their gaze. After five seconds, he says, “Happy birthday.” Then laughs and lets her go, noting that her tactics don’t work. But the look on her face says they do.

So, my issue is that the scene I just described should be heart-pumpingly hot and it’s just… not. There are a bunch of situations like this, where the characters find themselves in semi-sensuous circumstances, and I can’t connect. How? I mean, it’s freakin’ Yang Se-jong. I think there just isn’t enough heart in the story between those scenes to get me all aflutter when they come up. The first episode told us little about Doona except that she’s big into cussing, smoking, and emulating Kate Moss circa 1996. It’s hard to care about a character when her moping isn’t in context.

I am interested in learning more about her backstory with her manager and what caused her to quit her idol career at the height of her success. But the individual stories of our leads don’t have me rooting for them as a couple. They each have their hearts set on someone else, and now they’re thrown together in a house, lonely and feeling blue, and seeking each other out because they don’t know what else to do. I feel for them — but it’s not a romantic feeling.

Doona!: Episodes 1-2 Suzy Yang Se-jong

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Honestly, Doona is not very likeable at first. I really find her chain smoking habit off-putting on top of her unhinged behavior. She's rude to blow cigarette smoke to his face. But I want to know what her deal is.
The person that I was invested in was Won Jun. I want him to succeed in all his goals in life.
What got me hooked after two episode are Yang Se Jong, beautiful shared house, pretty cinematography and lovely OST. I also like Jin Ju, his childhood friend and crush. So I wonder what will happen to them.
Whatever may come, I plan to finish this show.

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I got to her needing therapy way before him! Hoped for better, but dropped after 1.

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Thanks @dramaddictally for the weecap. I think for a short series there should be more to hook us in at this stage of the drama. I think because it’s short and bingeable people will continue in the hope that it is just a slow start.
I compared it to Love to hate you which was also bingeable but it had humour and created an interest in the backstory to the unlikeable lead. In Doona! it feels like too much hard work without much reward to find out what is going on with her.

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Honest question for you, Reply, in response to this post. Why is it that she can’t just be messed up, and that’s the point? The ML also wants to fix her and/or just figure it out. Why must we too?

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I think relationships work best when they are based on two way interaction that builds mutual trust and respect with give and take on both sides. I feel that he would be putting in way more, proving he was trustworthy while she would be giving nothing until he had met her criteria. That feels like work rather than an enjoyable process and her attitude gave off the message it’s on her terms or it’s not happening. That’s her choice but he was trying to meet her as an equal which is normal for him as it was shown consistently in his interactions with others. He was also given an abrupt attitude by one of the male room mates but you could see that as long as they were doing the basics they could share that space without problems arising.

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I see. I suppose I felt from even the first episode that I wasn’t going to be given a relationship that “worked.” That just wasn’t my expectation.

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Since I didn't find the lead(s) in Love to Hate you unlikable, I'm having difficulties seeing your comparison in that way.

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For me it was the contrary.
With Love to Hate You, I couldn't keep watching because of him and all the fighting.

But with Doo Na I really wanted to know what was her deal so I kept watching.

I think the other leads also influence the decision. Won Jun is calm and nice, so the way he approached Doo Na gave her the chance to reflect on her behavior and change.
With every little interaction they have Doo Na understands his character better and treats him accordingly.

While the only thing I remember from the leads of LT Hate You is that they screamed a lot/were angry all the time.

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Yang Se-jong! Yelling his name is really the only way I can account for the exclamation point in the show’s title.

Actually, my Y chromosome can think of another reason for it.

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I am a XX chromosome, but I do not get YSY's hype and that maybe because I have never watched his dramas, including the beanies' favourite "30 but 17"

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Cue ... a bunch of us pouncing on you to see Still 17 (also called 30 but 17) and asking you to you please - Don't think, just FEEL! 🤣 🤣 🤣

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Actually, when it aired, I did live watch 1 or 2 episodes, but then RL got busy and I put it in the back burner and it is still hanging in my 2018-Ongoing Kdrama list 🤣🤣

Shin Hye Sun is my favorite, so I will definitely complete it one day.

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Good .. at least you said "one day" and not "someday"! Hehe.

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This made me laugh out loud. 🤣 I loved 30 but 17!

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👋Welcome to the Beanie comments we hope you will find some other dramas you enjoy enough to join in the banter.

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None of this sounds like a budding romance. Tbh the teaser also wasn’t able to show much promise. I feel like this might be a toxic relationship in the making, a bit like nevertheless but less intimate scenes. Where viewers might remain unsatisfied with the direction of the story or the romance (where it might feel like a forced romance).

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Except physical attraction, I never understood why they're interested in each other, they were very different and they never really shared their feelings.

The hospital scene was so weird. First, why the nurse was so angry about the fact she didn't call a guardian? She's an adult and she's conscious. She's the patient, so if you need tell her something, tell her directly! When I was at the emergency for my arm, even if my mother was with me, the doctor talked directly to me. And the appointment with the surgeon, he didn't ask me to come with a guardian, I was alone and he explained things to me.
So the whole scene was not romantic at all. Who chooses socks with fingers separated, when the purpose is to maintain her warm? It's like glove and mitten!

Her change of attitude after that was odd too. She wasn't hit to the head, but she got a change of personality suddenly.

KIM JIN-JOO was the interesting character of this drama and I would have liked to see more scenes with her.

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I would argue that it was not that she got a personality transplant, but that she clinged to the first person she felt she could trust in her sea of loneliness~~ so, to sum it up, some basic dude gave her uncomfortable socks and an adult, gorgeous woman decided he is the one she needs.

The show is a male fantasy, you shouldn't look too deep here.

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I don't mind this trope, the same when it's the opposite gender. But in this case, it didn't make me feel anything. It was just weird.

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It's a little much to call it "a male fantasy" just because of that. From the spoilers I've seen, it seems like Doona is very messed up. It's not male fantasy that a mentally unstable woman clings to the first man in a while (or ever) who was nice to her without a hidden reason. From what I gathered she has an unhealthy relationship (an one-sided obsession maybe) with a much older man. She is also a former idol and that comes with its own set of issues/trauma... All I see is a pretty realistic situation. There are definitely idols (both male and female) who are just like Doona.

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Sure, but the directing style and romanization of her condition is what I would call a male fantasy. Like she smokes, but only beautifully and it does not reflect on her breathing or skin.

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Thank you, @maria15. I have finished watching all of this show, and it is many things, but much more than just a male fantasy.

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After watching the whole thing (but even from the start tbh) I really don't understand why people call this a male fantasy.

I might not be a beautiful struggling yet famous idol, but I'm a bit of struggling human and I wouldn't mind a decent guy like the ML here to come and save me lol!! XD (ofc I live in the real world where this doesn't happen, but we're talking fantasy here so..)

That aside, of course it's a drama, so we usually have to accept some not so logical stuff! Ahaha

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Male fantasy because....male lead gave up the best choices for a "Barbie doll"--looks?

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Wow @Dramaddictally that is a lot of content for a First Impressions post. Your writing is awesome as always and the opening sentence is just perfection. 👍

Thank you for taking one for the team and sitting through the episode (or two) because I certainly couldn't.  🤣

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Hmm, @dramaddictally, hmm. Maybe we are seeing the same things, but having different reactions to them. You say (rightly), "...the individual stories of our leads don’t have me rooting for them as a couple." Because it doesn’t seem to me that this is the right end-game for us, or for the story.

It's like this show has as its fundamental, fraught tension what you *want* to happen in a relationship, what you would like to *get out* of a relationship, and what should happen for this drama to “make sense.”

I am truly enjoying this—the FF-img is minimal, but admittedly present (especially when it’s only scenes of our ML brooding)—and recommend it to all others who simply want a relationship drama. No serial killers (so far)!

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I'm still on ep 4 but I'm liking this more and more. I'm also getting Nevertheless vibes kkkk. People wanting traditional romance when the story is about something very different and then saying it's bad because it's not what they wanted it to be.

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Yup, definitely Nevertheless vibes insofar as people are allowed to be super-messed-up and that’s OK. I’m almost done—I’ve cried more in response to this drama than My Dearest 😉

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Exactly!
Hee Do and Baek Yi Jin started as a "rainbow", so why can't this two start (and maybe end) as something else?

Their dynamic gets cuter and cuter by the second, imo. I'm loving the show.

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I'm enjoying the show as well. I don't understand the criticism in this post.

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@attiton Agreed. We’re not supposed to root for them as a couple. That line didn't come across the way it was supposed to.

When I wrote this, I was thinking about the comparison case of Nevertheless. I never wanted that couple to be end game - the point of the show was supposed to be what a player the ML is and the whole time you want the FL to get away from him. But the push and pull between them is extremely compelling and realistic. I wanted to watch whatever pain was coming. (Unfortunately the drama twisted its own message at the end.)

So, in this case, a better way to put it might be: I didn’t find the characters or their dynamic (whatever it may be) compelling enough to watch.

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Started watching this drama as his first drama for a while as usual his great watched his other dramas our Country and still 17 loved them he diffently suits romantic roles

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I've only seen the first episode, so no spoilers or sense of this show as a whole here. It didn't blow me away, and I agree that the chemistry between the leads isn't exactly setting fire to my screen, but because we're just at the beginning, I can't say I saw that as some huge problem. Clearly, this is supposed to be a character-driven story, so I expected flawed characters and difficult circumstances to establish the conflict. I didn't feel the need to binge this one as soon as the first episode ended, but I did want to see what would happen next, so I'll watch it throughout next week.

What I Liked:

--This drama looks and sounds beautiful. I love the shots of Won-joon's cozy room that show us how warm it feels and how they contrast with shots of Doona's expansive yet cold and lonely space. And as someone who doesn't care for kpop, I was worried about the OST, but it's pretty dreamy so far.

--Speaking of my dislike of kpop, I also tend to find depictions of idol life (on and off the stage) in dramas to be so over-the-top and cringey that I typically ff. But the scenes we've gotten so far were directed, shot, and edited in an intriguing way that didn't make it so I was thinking about the whole meta-narrative of Suzy (a former idol, no?) playing a former idol.

--I appreciate that Won-joon doesn't feel like a caricature of the everyday nice guy, but a genuine, down-to-earth young man with normal college-life struggles (never having enough money, trying to stay on top of his studies, dealing with obnoxious sunbaes and trying to fit in, and harboring a long-standing crush on a woman who only sees him as a friend). Yang Se-jong plays these types of parts well because he has an earnest, genuine presence.

--And finally, I like that Doona is obviously so troubled and somewhat unlikeable. There was definitely potential in the beginning for me to decide she's just annoying and turn off the show, but I hung around, because I'm interested in where we go from here.

What I Didn't Like:

--I blame "Worst of Evil" for the fact that I'm already burned out (hee-hee) on excessive depictions of smoking, but look, we get that Doona is self-destructive and unhappy; she doesn't need to be smoking in almost every scene. The shots of the full ashtrays would be enough.

--That in his tirade, Won-joon never specifically referenced the fact that Doona blowing smoke in his face (which was incredibly rude) led to him losing a job he needed. Attacking her apparent entitlement was justified, I guess, but why not simply stick to the specific thing she did that caused harm to him?

Verdict So Far: Intrigued but not yet fully engaged.

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I felt he didn't tell her about the scarf because at that point he felt a little pity for her. He's mad but he seem like a very compassionate person so even angry he knew that would be too much, she is already vulnerable as she is. It was nice touch, at least if my thinking is right.
I did feel the same about the smoking and the running barefoot was ridiculous.

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Keep going @laurensophie ! Maybe you, @lixie and I can have a conversation on the full Hangout when we’re all done.

This isn’t a perfect drama by any means, but I think it does far better than most at representing a different female experience than the “good girl” we’re so used to in every single other drama.

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Look forward to it!

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Yes! I already wanted to talk about ep 3 and 4. Meet you there! :)

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It doesn't have to be romantic to be good or interesting. Everybody here loves My Ahjussi and it was just about 2 people with problems becoming friends and helping each other. This is the story here, though their friendship does have some sexual tension.

I agree, first ep was boring. Her character was superficial and behaved in an artificial way, it's like drama thought she would be mesmerizing smoking dozens of cigarettes in slippers.
It does get better from the second episode on, or so it seems, I'm still on ep 4, but it's become a nice story though still not the average romance people might have been expecting from this.

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Just randomly dropping here to mention that parts of this was filmed in my uni, and my roommate's ratty old bike accidentally became a background extra in episode 3. 🤣

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Oh wow! That is so cool. 👏

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Wow claim to fame 🥳

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They moved us out of the frame. But forgot her bike 🤣
But you REALLY need to squint to see that it's there.

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Ep 3 at 27.18, in the background slightly right to suzy's shoulder if anyone was curious.

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Thank you😊

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For the first episode and half of the second one I just didn't get Doo Na. I think that she felt so random and crazy because we saw everything from Won Jun's perspective.
I liked her way better after that.

Won Jun is cute and nice, it makes sense she wants to be his friend.

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You’ve gotta pay attention to the start scenes. They are hints for the ending, especially Won Jun’s little smirk/smile in ep 9.
I think they both had to grow in order to love each for who they really are. When they first fell in love it was more out of need/loneliness. Won Jun was also not confident with himself to be someone reliable and looked down on his own circumstances. Doona only knew how to sing and dance which also became who she was. She couldn’t imagine doing anything else, so not going back would be like how she was at the start, barely living. Her smoking habits mimic “P” whom she watched growing up. Towards the end, she smokes much less, they’re both mentally healthier and they both have careers. If the intro is any hint, I believe they even go on trips together as a group(even Won Jun’s friend is there) .

I actually don’t like JinJu because she assumed things, lacked communication and then just had pretty privilege and expected the male lead to pick her again. On the flip side, Doona and Won Jun at least will talk about things or argue.

I really enjoyed this drama.

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In love with this drama! It is the right kind of slow.

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The smoking seems weird. A number of years ago, smoking became sort of taboo in KDramas. People could hold a cigarette, maybe even put it in their mouth, but they never actually lit it.

Even the cigarettes look weird. Black paper?

Suzy, too, looks weird. Yes, the role needs her to look like a member of a Kpop girl group, but still. She used to look distinct, recognizable. Here, she looks run-of-the-mill.

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Back in 1977 there was a European film named 'That Obscure Object of Desire'. Doona reminds me of that film. An enigmatic, troubled, beautiful woman and the feckless man who becomes obsessed with her. The series feels rather French, where the 'beautiful heroine suffering from ennui' was an entire genre unto itself.

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I actually enjoyed the drama - my only feedback would be that they needed a better actress than Suzy... it is a complicated role and I wonder if someone like Seo Ye-ji would have killed it!! Yes it was a slow burn but quite realistic in depicting the emotional push-pull... I binge watched (some fast forwarding) but I would recommend it.

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And what’s up with the exclamation point?

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I have in the past stopped watching a kdrama after 1 or 2 episodes but, they did not have Bae Suzy. I'm confident it will pick up. I hope she quits smoking. I really liked the line.... something like.... you're not stable if you carry a bottle of wine around to hit someone over the head.

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