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Doona: Episodes 1-9 (Drama Hangout)

Welcome to the Drama Hangout for Netflix’s Doona!, where Suzy and Yang Se-jong get entangled in a campus romance.

This is your place to binge and chat about the drama. You can also check out our E1-2 First Impressions review.


Beware of spoilers! This thread is for discussing the entire series.
 
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Liking it so far (halfway thru ep 2).

The title of episode 1 was "An Unexpected Twist". Given kdramaland's obsession with twists, I'm not sure what kind of twist they think we weren't expecting. The closest they came to something I didn't expect in ep 1 was having Doona smoking all the time. Granted, Suzy can be smokin' hot, but that's not the same thing. Oh, and they didn't introduce any serial killers or obvious baddies in that ep -- I guess that counts as an unexpected twist in rom-coms now?

I took tons of screenies and had lots of things I was thinking of saying, but mostly they were about what might happen next or what a certain scene might mean, and I figured anyone who cared about the show would be ahead of me and would already know what's going on. Sigh. Messing with my posting rhythm gives me one more reason to dislike the Friday Night of Doom.

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My Lord your sense of humor is impeccable.

Your comment about the lack of serial killers or baddies counting as an unexpected twist in rom-coms is just perfection!

We look forward to your screenies.

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Did you finish @lordcobol?

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Only thru ep 4. Sat WWW will say what eps I'm rating.

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Just gonna get this out of the way since this is the first thing that comes to mind: Suzy swearing and smoking. Obviously since I don't know Korean, I have no idea which words are curses but according to Netflix, Doona swears alot haha

It is kinda jarring on both a meta level & in character since Suzy *was* an idol just like Doona so seeing them being real people who swear "oh my god🙊". But also I think the whole point is that the pressures of idol life is the reason the character is the way she is. She wasn't allowed to swear or have bad days or say her own thoughts & opinions or do things she wanted and now that she can, she just goes for it without a filter.

I don't remember if Suzy smoked in Anna (she probably did and I just don't remember) but ugh, so much smoking in so many shows lately. Can people have ANY other type of vice?! I'm begging the entertainment/show business gods to do something. Maybe an ice cream habit.

Also oh how time marches on haha. Hearing Doona refer to herself as Unnie (Eonnie) was like wow haha.

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Sidebar. I have always wondered if Netflix subtitlers accurately translate Korean profanity.
It seems to me they love the f-bomb.
(I prefer the Viki style for translating profanity.)

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I probably should have mentioned that I don’t plan to watch DOONA. I am a YSY fan since DUEL (2017) (5 stars) and was kind of disappointed when he chose this project as his return to kdramaland.
I would love to have DUEL 2 and see what the clones have been up to.

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He knocks it out of the park. I recommend a watch, but YMMV.

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Its on Netflix so she gets away with both.

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My experiment for this drama is watching only scenes of Yang Se-jong. It is going swimmingly. I get to enjoy the pretty without unnecessary angst or smoking or curses.

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WonJun is bland, Doona is unappealing. The vibe of the show is cold and boring. Dropped.

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I will go forward with my rant on this show.

Even if I did not know, I could easily tell you that Doona was written by a man. The main lead is the epitome of basic and even Yang Se Jong does not salvage how ...empty the character's writing is. It is okay, sure, but what I hate about such writing is that the gorgeous woman like Doona would have zero issues with him literally closing door in her face more than once. That would not discourage her desire to eat with him, because he *checks notes* called an ambulance for her and bought her uncomfortable socks. Yeah. That's how women work. What is even more off-putting is how he idolizes her and how Doona, who we learn is uncomfortable with her idol life, actually enjoys that.

"Because you are unordinary girl"

Why is she, again? Because she smokes? Maybe because she used to be an idol? Moreover, what is an ordinary woman exactly? The mortal one? Because the drama's make up team obviously thinks Doona is a vampire and she should be whiter than a piece of paper. That phrase is something man tells a woman thinking he is complimenting her, while all he expresses is how misogynistic he is and how limited are his views on how different women can be.

Yeah, and I hated "home girl" "fallen woman" narrative the show has going on for it. The similar trope has worked in It's Okay to Not Be Okay, but that is because the show respected the "the bad woman" enough to make her a character instead of an entity that pops out in main lead's park time to time and somehow manages to have zero people close to her by adulthood.

What else did I hate? Right. How boring the plot is. The boring plots are great, but only when the characters are well written. If your whole character writing is she-is-sexy-and-lonely and he-is-boring, you should at least write a detective or a fantasy novel.

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Yes, written as a male fantasy - a bit like a reverse Twilight (since you mention vampires), i.e. with a character that's a bit of a blank canvas that viewers/readers can imagine themselves in place of. He's shy and sensitive (probably common to many male lovers of rom-coms), fairly good-looking but in a non-flashy way, but otherwise fairly generic, and yet for some reason he's got multiple gorgeous women vying for his attention.

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Aww, the line "it was once your job to be loved by people" hurt my heart.
I feel so bad for idols and entertainers.

I'm not even sure if that line was suppose to hit the way it hit me but it really just made think of how entertainment makes people have to fit certain ideals and images all for the sake of being loves by the masses. Now I wonder how people in the entertainment world even form genuine relationships and a sense of self when they're raised in environments like that.

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This feels out dated, from circa 1990s, not 2023 either because the scenes that is wash out or Doona that smokes a lot.
On Ep 2: Watching this and having just graduated, I just want to go to uni again.

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I also had the thought at times that something felt old-fashioned about some shots (like literally k-dramas from a decade ago), but I was wondering if it was a deliberate effect, for example in terms of the type of camera and film used, or the way they were setting up their shots.

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I hate the forced situations so much and I hate the manipulation. "IT'S A MATTER OF LIFE OR DEATH!" for a group blind date😑

I dislike the "call me noona" character. Wouldn't they be considered same age friends since they were born either on the same day or around the same day?

God, I hate the dating stuff so much. This is part of the reason I don't like watching romcoms.

The elements of this show that interest me is everything NOT related to dating such as the pressures, dangers, and criticisms Doona had to endure which made her the way she is now. The complicated nature of liking someone but being too intimidated by your own issues to recipocate their feelings.

I don't particular like or care about any of the characters to the point I don't even know their names but the situations interest me.

In other news, I think the standoffish roommate is from Start Up.

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Will go back here and read everyone's thoughts on this but I freshly finished it just like maybe half an hour ago.

I go into this one as a HUGE fan of the webtoon, but it was much more than what I was expected. Which is great to begin with

Suzy is insane like the last time I personally think she touched my feeling THIS hard was Dream High (Suzy sweetie im so sorry I love you and I tried but all good now!). And the chemistry with Yang Sejong is just crazy and I think this is what saved the drama.

Directing wise and writing wise I'm not sure because definitely could've been better. I feel like directing wise they're trying to recreate that mysterious yet non-chalant vibe the original webtoon has but I'm not quite convince they did it well. But again, definitely much more than what I was expecting but also def could've done more.

*Spoiler Alert*

The 'I love you' drop... Dang.... I HAVEN'T FELT THAT PAIN IN MY HEART FOR AWHILE.

Also I would've love longer scene for Go Ahsung kinda :(

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Sigh, was this a waste of time? I don't know. At least it was short which the entire reason I watched this in the first place.

Was this satisfying? To me, no, not really. I didn't care about the romance anyway *but* if I were into it, I would've probably still been meh about it cause I don't think any of the pairs have chemistry. Not romantic chemistry, not platonic chemistry.

I was more interested in how idol life affected Doona and it just all became more & more unsatisfy (to me) as the show went on. Maybe it's just me and I need things spelled out for me vs folks who think about nuance and the beauty of meaningful temporary relationships and whatnot.

In the end, she was saying how she's happier and in a much better place and has people now and I'm just like "but you were stuck in a contract, at a company you didn't want to be at?"

And then he's like "I regret it every day so please leave me alone" and then they just go their seperate ways?

And I don't understand what type of civil servant job he has that he seemed like a secretary or something.

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All my typos embarrass me cause I really do reread what I write and yet still fail.

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Don't be embarrased. That happens all the time to me too. I just hope ppl still understand the thought despite it.

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Ha ha ha for typos and grammar errors I just go.... whatever 😆 not that I write a report

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Relatable. It do be like that sometimes.

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I just finished the last episode. I thought Suzy and Yang Se Jong had great chemistry so I was expecting a lot but it didn't quite come together for me. Their characters were very inconsistent in the way they communicated with each other, sometimes straight forward, sometimes with words unsaid that should have been said. The supporting characters didn't really have much of a story line. I wondered why they were there. The lack of paparazzo had me mystified. For all the meetups and living together? Dispatch would have been on it yet they were free to deliver heart wrenching scenes, go to a concert and have dinner devoid of video. On a different note, I hope Suzy has an extra lung to process all that smoke. I realize smoking is a reality but still...it was distracting. Plus any nonsmokers out there kissing a smoker? It's an acquired taste is what I am saying.

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I especially didn’t understand the thinking of YSJ’s character in the end. He seems worse than before, more closed off, and I had no idea what he was thinking or why he was making his choices at the end. I would have been ok with the ending if they had made that more apparent or he had learned from the experience.

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Same. I found the ending unsatisfying. Their feelings for each other haven't changed, but he wants none of it. I figured an introverted non-celebrity not ending up with a major star is probably a realistic outcome, but he doesn't really explain anything and it just feels like a bit of a failure, in that he's just stubbornly decided to lean into his limitations and give up what he actually does want.

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Having thought more about it, I think part of the issue around the ending for me is that he's supposed to be in his early twenties and inexperienced in love, and a certain level of cluelessness is to be expected. However, the leads actors are 29 and 30 and his lack of communication just feels a bit dysfunctional to me.

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I read the webtoon in advance of the drama and I didn’t like Doona as a person for most of the storyline. She was like the male lead in most ‘rich man, poor woman’ style dramas, she needed therapy, they needed to communicate better. I think they kept the essence of the webtoon in tone and key scenes but added more elements which is to be expected when translating to the screen.
It’s not my kind of story but I think it was an ok adaption. I think it suited a binge watch.

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Yea, it seems like a story for an ordinary man. Suzy fan service like King the Land.

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That’s a great way to view it🤣
I just thought the male lead’s character was a really sweet caring person who was better suited to the second female lead type of character. I could not see what would attract him to the female lead who had such a strong defence shield around her including the smoking.

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Many Netflix dramas I managed to finish until the last ep are because their all episodes single drop format. If Netflix gave these dramas 1 or 2 episodes once a week format, I don't think I would be able to finish them.

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@Reply1988 would you agree that the Netflix adaptation had a more positive ending than the webtoon? I think so, but wanted to ask your opinion.

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Netflix has better closure for their relationship with the hug, apology and regrets speech but leaves you with questions. I think the webtoon including the spinoff and epilogue has a better ending as it answers the questions re their relationship and confirms that Doona’s wish for him came true.

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What was the webtoon ending? Is it ok to tell it here or should it go to the fan wall?

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This Hangout is for the entire series, so spoilers can be posted here.

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Just watched episode 1. Too much smoking that makes me uncomfortable. Nothing about the characters. Too bland and surface level Dropped.

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interesting comments!!

actually, i'm posting because in ep 2 flashbacks, i'm getting the CREEPS at how they are CGing the actors' faces (using AI probably... SHIVERS) to youth-i-fy them...

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It is an interesting point, as many actors in their late twenties and early thirties are being used to play school/college young people. It must make it too competitive for the many up and coming young actors who would be able to take on these roles more convincingly but can’t get a break because they may not be as well known.

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Well, that was a quick drop. I made it almost to the end of ep. 1 before my disgust overpowered the mild interest I had in the premise, and the story had already become boring. Doona (the character) is a nasty piece of work and I don't want to see Suzy blowing smoke and looking up coyly through her eyelashes for another minute.

In hindsight, I should have tried @seeker's technique of watching only YSJ's scenes, but now the prospect of getting even a glimpse of the rest while FFing is too off-putting. Maybe I'll wait a bit for my stomach to settle and then try that.

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Tee hee!

The drama I watched was just the many shades of Yang Se-jong.

FL's character stills were off-putting and the teasers did not endear her to me in any which way.

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Suzy is beautiful, but I mostly skip her dramas

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The good point is it was a short drama.

The main characters were pretty boring. Suzy failed to make me love her character. Yang Se-Jong was cute but his character was so boring.

Kim Jin-Ju was the only character I liked and the actress, Ha-Young did very well.

Otherwise, I'm surprised how the promotion just ignored the other actors of this drama : Park Se-Wan, Kim Do-Wan, Lee Jin-Uk, my lovely Ko Ah-Sung and Kim Sun-Young as a mum of course!

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I suspect the 9 episodes was a quick wrap up, for reasons unknown. For example, did you ever see that scene in the intro of Suzy in pig tails? How much unreleased footage remains on the cutting room floor? Sad.

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The editing was the worse part. I got the feeling they chose esthetics over story telling. It's why Doona's past story is very unclear, some scenes seemed disconnected from the chronology, the intro was never showed in the show, the end, etc.

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Agree with the ignoring of other actors. I got a jumpscare when Jin-uk just ran onscreen like he was a regular on the show. I had to rewind to register what I had just seen!

I do agree with the length of the drama as well. It made it easy & slightly more bearable to watch.

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And Park Se-Wan is a lead in her other last dramas, so I was very surprised to see her as a supporting cast in this drama.

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SPOILERS -- This one is bittersweet, which is usually not my beat. But I liked it. Writing is uneven and supporting characters are not filled in well. But the premise grabbed me - for me, it was how -- for a k pop idol, -- an ordinary earnest (slightly clueless) good hearted college student (a civil engineer no less) could be exactly what they want the most and need -- but cannot have. 'i like the most typical and ordinary things'. "Don't fall for me". It was about the loneliness, isolation and "separate-ness" of their world. I loved Suzy in this; it felt in many ways like her story

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Great drama really enjoying it so far another great drama from South Korea

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Just finished Doona! on Netflix today... I just couldn't stop seeing it everywhere and I just had to try and watch it cause 'why not, duh it's a K drama this year'
And then, I just found myself needing more of each episode one by one which also led me to finish it in less than 2 hours for one day... I think this has to be one of the most amazing k dramas of all times or just of October, anyone... *Screaming even when it's 2 am in the morning.....
Also, Doona! is almost better than See You In My 19th Life.... ALMOST!!..... LOL..

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🥳Welcome to the DB comments, so glad you found a drama that was binge worthy. We hope you will find other dramas you enjoy as much and want to continue to join in the banter.

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I gave it a two episode test and it passed.

Doona is not very likeable at first. I really find her chain smoking habit off-putting on top of her unhinged behavior. She's rude to blow cigarette smoke to his face. But I want to know what her deal is since it hints at some sort of trauma during her idol days.

The person that I was invested in was Won Jun (of course Yang Se Jong). I want him to succeed in all his goals in life. He is the typical good guy who is polite to everyone.

What got me hooked after two episode are Yang Se Jong, beautiful shared house, pretty cinematography and lovely OST. I also like Jin Ju, his childhood friend and crush. So I wonder what will happen to them.

Come what may, I plan to finish this show

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I can't say that I regret the few hours I spent watching the drama, because overall they weren't unpleasant hours. But I can't say that I would like to go back to watching this story someday. This drama confirmed my dislike of the Korean entertainment industry, this peculiar, strange and sick system. As well as dislike for Korean celebrities. No matter what, they know the realities and they choose this path in life, knowing these realities. When drawing someone into their life, they should not destroy that person in the name of their career. Moreover, once again I saw a drama in which Koreans do not treat their mental problems and traumas, but "burden" them to people who come into contact with them. It's sad that someone has emotional problems, but the fact that such a person makes another person's life worse is not okay. The truth is that from this love story, one person gained (FL, her life became better) and the other lost (ML). If ML hadn't met FL, his life would have been better. It's quite possible that he would finally start a relationship with the girl he was previously in love with and she was in love with him. Or he would meet someone who wouldn't make several years of his life a misery. And this is what his life has become because of his relationship with FL. The few months that FL was in ML's life were not worth what later happened to his life in terms of his psyche.

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👆🏾This is exactly my point they did not need to be more than acquaintances depending on how the flat share participants were together.

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If you are interested, here is a short "ending explained" video that includes an interpretation of a scene in E9 that could be a hint of a big twist at the end. I had not noticed it until the video pointed it out. I am not sure that I totally agree with the interpretation of the scene, but it was intriguing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8FokfZq_-M

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I don't understand why they needed to make the end so subtitle. It was a romance after all. There were a lot of scenes that were showed that weren't directly connected with the story like the beach trip.

So one second of them at the beginning and we have to understand they are together? It's a weird choice of story telling.

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I agree it is weird. I think we will eventually learn this show had a lot of material either removed. or never shot. There is evidence which points to that, like the strange 9-episode length. Netflix has recently done that before, as we learned about Song of the Bandits. Did they also cut down this show after production began?

Anyway, where I'm going with this is that scene at the beginning of E9 might have been part of a bigger scene that got cut from the final release. So their decision to place the short snippet there at the beginning of E9 intrigues me because of its possibilities. Was it just Won-jun's dream? Or was it a premonition of the future? Did the production team decide to intentionally edit that little scene into that exact point in the episode for a reason? Where they trying to tell us something very subtle?

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Oh @Kurama, I forgot something. I don't know if you read the webtoon this was based on, The Girl Downstairs, but based on my research about it this Netflix adaptation has a much more positive ending than the webtoon.

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No, I didn't.
But I don't mind any ending as long as it makes sense and is clear. For this drama, the best is 2 of them separated living their own life.

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EP1-3

1. The first episode was kinda weird. I thought Doo Na was like some unpredictable and scary type of girl. And I still think she is, but in a really positive way? At the beginning I couldn't understand her, everything she did seemed kind of random and childish.
Now I understand her better, and I like her. She's cool af.

2. I LOVE the leads. They have a really nice relationship. I like how they support each other no matter what, and they always try to understand each other. If they don't know something they ask, when they share their problems they always listen carefully and respect each other's decisions/perspective.

3. I love how this show is cliché and has so many of our typical tropes, but in a more relaxed way?
Usually the cohabitation trope is a mess. The leads are always fighting, or something super weird or scary happens to one of the leads that makes the other one go running to their houses, and they find each other naked and trip, or something like that. But these two are super chill, like real roomies. And they became friends in a really casual way.

Even when Doo Na got sick, we didn't have the "taking care of her all night with wet towels", or "running with her in his arms to the hospital", scene, he called 119, took her to the hospital and that was it. Instead, we got cute socks as some kind of internal joke. I'm always looking at her feet now. LOL

The trauma too. We see Doo Na waiting for someone, we see her exploiting, we see her trembling and we see her remembering all those painful memories, but we still see her smile, be confident, and be nice. It's not like she lost her identity or changed it because of her trauma. She's a person WITH problems, the problems DIDN'T MAKE her person.

Same for the relationship with the secondary love interest could be chaotic too, but nah. Instead we got Doo Na helping Won Ju go from "some" to "more". It didn't work, but that didn't become a disaster either.

I'm really enjoying the drama. I like the characters and their dynamics, and how refreshing it feels.
It gives me this "Do You Like Brahms? chill sister" vibes. LOL, yeah, I know the shows are completely different but Idk.

PS. Watching LACHICA members (dancers, choreographers) as idols was crazy. Hahaha.

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EP (4-5)

In the first three episodes I got "cute friendship" vibes. But in these two episodes I could only hear the song "썸 (some) by So Yu and Jung Gi Go" playing in my head.

So I feel like both episodes were the same but from different perspectives?
Episode 4 was Doo Na POV, she was the one waiting, she was the one with strange feelings, she was the one jealous (aka. So You). In episode 5 Won Jun was the one waiting and with strange feelings and he got jealous (aka. Jung Gi Go).

The rap of the song is Won Jun at the end of episode 5. 😆

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Doona
This one took me a while and it took me by surprise. Because it involved an idol cohabitating with a normal guy- I was expecting a lighthearted and unrealistic romance. It’s deeper than it looks at first glance. It’s slightly depressed at first and it’s introspective. It feels real. The characters may seem limited or shallow, but that’s not true. I found Doona engaging and layered. The main characters didn’t initially act on their emotions because they didn’t understand how they felt themselves. It’s a very accurate reflection on real life. Life is messy and complicated and we don’t always act like the person we think we are. I loved this show.

It’s a bit like Lost and even My Liberation Notes where everyone seems to be set on a course that they can’t control but desperately do.

I totally get Doona…I totally get her. It took 6 episodes to really get her.
As an Idol, people expect the worst from her. They expect her to be a self serving spoiled brat. They expect her to push away people. They expect her to be shallow. They expect to use her and to be used. I didn’t really see this until EP 6 until Doona’s mother visits and the way the mother talks to her and the things she expected of her. What a “real” portrayal. No fantasy here, just straight up crappy life expectations of being a cash cow.
When people expect the worse out of you- you tend to show them what they expect. This hits home hard. Some on you have never experienced this in real life and won’t be able to relate. I wish I couldn’t relate.

Things I loved:

Character growth. Especially Doona at the end and her transformation into someone who is finally happy. I love her speech at the end. Initially, at her lowest point, she needed Won-Jun and she happily used him to escape from her wretched reality. Won-Jun knows this which is the cause for his despair. He can’t just be a temporary toy for Doona and wants to keep up his walls to prevent getting hurt. But by the end of the show. She has everything back and no longer needs him. Instead, she wants Won-Jun. It’s a subtle and powerful change.

The genuine friendships: I love how Doona befriends Jin-Ju and I-Ra. Her first real friends. At first, they are competitors for Won-Jun, but they end up companions. I really feel bad for Jin-Ju. I can feel her pain and she just such a likeable character. Even I-Ra, who starts out annoying, is able to become incredible likeable.

Other random notes:

Bae Suzy might be a talented singer/dancer but she sure can’t play basketball. It’s comically bad. I don’t understand how someone so graceful dancing, plays basketball like she has 2 left arms and 2 left feet.

Doona is written like some male fantasy where the guy has not 1, but 3 beautiful women chasing after him. One of them being Bae Suzy who is unfairly gorgeous. I was surprised the webtoon author is a woman.

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I'm with you @lostpanda. Unexpectedly rich drama... If anyone makes it this far down on the Hangout--do know that there were folks who enjoyed it!

Was it perfect? Absolutely not. Was the last episode so disjointed it was like skimming rather than reading the webtoon? Yeah. But frankly, that allowed me to imagine more about how they decided to end things (if that's how you want to take it).

I really quite liked Doona! and would easily, easily recommend it to folks who like relationship dramas.

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Not surprised that a lot of people don't like it; it's slow to start, has characters that reveal very little about themselves so you have to be patient, and the editing is choppy and distant. But I loved it, and binge-watched it in two days. I have never liked Suzy's acting, but perhaps because of her real-life experience with idol life she nails it here; I think she can pull from a lot of her life experiences to make the acting feel valid. As for Yoon Se-Jong, he's made a career out of introverted, troubled souls so this is right in his wheelhouse and I think he gets it right. As for chemistry, it feels a bit contrived at first but by episode 4 or 5 you could tell they were comfortable with each other and the sparks they were definitely there.
This one is going to be a re-watch, for me.

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I just rewatched to make a few gifs...it's worth it! I actually got more out of the second watch.

I might add, though, for context, that I always like the "before they become a couple" parts of relationship dramas better than the "after," and that's what was richer on rewatch. For example, the multiple conversations about liking "ordinary things" or wanting an "ordinary life." Who's allowed to dream for that? For whom, is "ordinary" just a synonym for "happy?"

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for me as a mother, it was a story about the pain of having to experience "adulting" (i think this is the term now?). doona was thrown into her idol world as a child. she was not able to grow up on her own, emotionally. her mother was a piece of work, to say the least...

he was a college boy, trying to grow up, maturing (quite well, i have to say - so considerate of his friend who is the #1 fan of doona, as well as his kindness to his childhood friend and how he was totally honest about his feelings toward her, friendship, not love anymore).

i felt his pain, i admired his restraint, i liked that he was mature enough to know her dilemma. in the end, it couldn't have worked out. it ended as it should have.

i LOVED that doona connected with the two roommates, one being the former love of won ju. i've told my own daughter, "boyfriends come and go, but your girlfriends will be there thru them all, at your wedding, welcome your baby(ies), divorce, etc..."

it was a very important and educational relationship for both of them. there aren't always happy endings in real life.

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I also thought of this like a mom. Actually, through the lens of a mom of a boy much like Won-Jun. As a mom-figure to another boy that could have totally been Won-Jun (staying in a sharehouse with a pretty girl, having a fling while he’s there with said pretty girl). I thought it was a great show; I might jus write about why later.

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As I have zero social life, I finished Doona! in one day (hahahhahahahahhahahahha)

Doona! ended up on my "?" list alongside A Time Called You. Before I get started on my thoughts, I do have to commend the actors as they did an great job at their roles, especially our leads.

As I went about the series, I realized that I was unable to root for our main couple. Their relationship felt strongly one-sided, mostly from Won-Jun. Doo-na had too much inner turmoil to the point where she needed to love herself again before being able to love another.
Man Won-jun was just TOO easy. That scene where he asked her to say "I'm sorry" and "I love you" felt as though it was something he wanted to hear rather than how she genuinely felt.
(I imagined myself in this situation and heck I wouldn't accept it at all. I think thats where the show lost me as well, I was losing my damn mind at how fast he said "ok" to that)

So because of that, the final scene wasn't satisfying and its not due to the open ending. It was because I didnt feel an ounce of emotions/attachment towards them at all throughout the show. Their relationship didnt seem legit, IIRC Suzy's expressions was quite monotone the whole time in the last few eps (and in the "im sorry i love you" scene) so how on earth was I supposed to believe that her feelings was real?

And Lee Jin-uk was just WEIRD man like what was his purpose??? Mans added nothing to the plot. He was just this typical paper antagonist who needed to be there to shake up our leads, like they both weren't already shaken enough. Half of Ep 9 was just him weirdly smiling LIKE ??? fr that was all I could remember him doing in ep 9 :')

ANYWAYS I should end off this long post, I told myself to summarize it too :')))) I went into the drama with the mindset that our leads were a toxic couple (according to the folks on twitter who read the webtoon) and I left feeling that they were so right.

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There was a nice story here. Somewhere. You just have to use your imagination to fix all the plot holes, bad editing and weak acting.
The first and last episodes were probably the worst so it's not that easy, people will need some effort to do this.

I guess it's only worthy of recommendation if someone is a fan of the lead actors or really likes dramas about messed up people.
Personally, I'm in that later camp so I liked the middle part of the drama. That was when the mind games and all the relationships were more interesting.

It's weird because it's slow and rushed at the same time. They did not know how to develop many elements of the plot or their title character so drama just avoided any of that and pretended it was of no importance, kind of like Doona does everytime she actually does something.

There were all kinds of hints about the idol industry being cruel and even a probable abusive relationship with a manager but all of that was never explored or explained. It's like drama wanted to talk about it but did not have the courage. That manager thing was absurd, to make a big deal out of it, solve it with one stupid line and forget about it.

It's romance for the unromantic because both of them got something out of their affair but not necessarily what they expected from it. Doona got confidence and self assurance, even if she remained selfish, egocentric and manipulative until their last meeting and Won Jun got a lot of experience and emotional maturity, even if poor guy got tricked into saying he regretted not trying harder to keep that relationship which did not even exist anymore at that point. The side characters did not matter much and their pseudo friendship with Doona never really happened but they were nice enough and the house was almost a character in itself. The soundtrack was also nice.

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Basically, it's just a peek at how a rogue idol tried living a normal life but couldn't do it.

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Doona never tried, she did not even want that.

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Hello everyone, my hypothesis is that Netflix tried to target a male audience with this mini-serie.
It's been made from a man's point of view, filmed via male gaze. The FL's behaviours are puzzling, because for men "women are puzzling" lol.

Bae Suzy is mainly there to be hot and breathtakingly beautiful.
It's men's fantasy that a hot girl next door starts hitting on them, quite obsessively for no obvious reason.

The way they resolve their first couple conflict is by having sex and the FL says something like "is it this easy to reconcile?" to which the ML confirms so. LMAO so cliché!

I think that may explain why many women have been put off by this show because it's very difficult to relate to the FL, as there is a man's filter between us. She does not make sense and it's frustrating.

I'm sorry for Bae Suzy she had to work on this project. After her stellar acting in the serie Anna, she deserves much better projects! I'll keep rooting for her!

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Interesting perspective!

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I agree!! There's so many scenes of Doona stretching in slow motion meanwhile we don't even know that she misses singing until the last episode

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Finished it in one go -- and I think overall I liked it, though I felt a bit underwhelmed by the end. I read the webtoon, that I loved so that could be one reason I am feeling this way about the drama. I was happy to see Yang Se-Jon back on my screen, it's been a while, (since temperature of love); and contrary to lots of beanies, I never had a problem with Suzy. Their chemistry was great, but I think what bothered me was how they got together and eventually got out of sync, it felt rushed contrary to the webtoon, where it is a bit more detailed and understandable. But the actors did a good job overall. I just wish it was a 12-episode drama so we could really capture those feelings that explained their relationship. And the end confused me, I hate unclear endings.

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I really like the cinematography and soundtrack of this drama. The story at its essence is typical opposites attract wherein the usual gender roles were swapped. Doona is the rich, complicated and damaged character that is sfill dealing with the aftermath of her decision to leave her idol group. While Won Jun is the Candy. The good guy that has a big heart, goals and aspirations to succeed. They met, clashed, got attracted, gambled and fell in love. The show may not outright show it but I think they have a huge chance of getting back together after airing out their issues in their last argument. That last scene felt hopeful to me.

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Discovering the band Nerd Connection (episode 8) was an unexpected benefit for me. The song they played in E8 has been stuck in my head. I finally found a video of it. You can see them perform "Hollywood Movie Star" here on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZxak0nB1co

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I'm at the beginning of ep 7, and my reaction is a resounding, "meh." I kind of like the main characters, kind of hate the chain smoking, kind of don't care about anybody's relationships... just "meh." It isn't quite angsty enough and isn't quite sugary enough... it's nice to watch, i love the settings and the house... but that doesn't make it mesmerizing. I'll finish it because I'm already in this far - and the other one I'm watching right now is Devil Judge, and that one is much darker than this one so the contrast is welcomed. But I'm not racing home to get back to it like others in the past.

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My thoughts exactly...I just hit episode 7, too...and I'll finish it, but agree that something is missing. Plus, I HATE ambiguous endings.

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Still on episode 7 and getting anxious. If fans have to deliberate and defend the ending, it's not good story telling.

ABDCE Action, Background Development, Climax, ENDING...that is how a good story ends! ENDING: "If you’ve left a lingering question by the end of the climax, the ending is where you tie the narrative together and provide clarity."

I'll finish but it appears I may feel resentful about another ambiguous ending.

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In my opinion....
YES, this is a romance. It is a "friends-to-lovers" and/or a "healing" romance.

YES, the ending is ambivalent--for the leads! The other characters had specific endings. I HATE ambiguous endings. I didn't make up the beginning, the characters or the plot so I don't want to make up my own ending. There is definitely a lack of clarity!

Yes, I believe that they would have kept on loving each other until they could be together.

No, I don't think there were any "hints" like clothing, location, etc. about how it ended. There is a difference between not liking a show's ending and not having an ending to the show; this show stopped at the climax--there was NO ending.

So....If fans have to defend and explain their interpretation of the ending, it is a FAIL. The ABDCE method of story-telling works: Action, Background, Development, Climax, ENDING! "If you've left a lingering question by the end of the climax, the ending is where you tie the narrative together and provide clarity." The writers of this show were LAZY, LAZY & LAZY!

Unfortunately, the choice of omitting an ending is a weakness of Kdramas that negatively impacts their standing in global entertainment. If omitting and ending is a trend, I want it to be over, NOW as it is an entertainment FAIL.

If there is a season 2, the writers need to show more about what decision the leads reached, and how they resolved the challenges to their relationship. Also, how Won-jun's friend reacts to Doona being in Won-jun's life and more background on Doona's mother and manager. Most of this could be resolved in one more episode.

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I liked this one, apart from the dubious ending and the strange editing. The ML would have been better off falling for the 2nd FL (I daresay she’s as pretty -in her own way- as Suzy and despite her upbringing she has a sunny disposition).
Regarding the many objections to the chain smoking, I find it odd I don’t hear more complaining about the excessive drinking in many a drama. At least the smoking here is not portrayed as something positive, contrary to way too many drinking scenes.

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The premise of this drama is so interesting. A washed-up idol looking for purpose outside of her job and a young college student who is too burdened by life to have fun. That's what the drama seemed to be about at first, then it too too many turns.
I wish they had shown why Won-jun likes Doona, other than the fact that she is beautiful and she asked him out. Doona seems to hang out with Won-jun because she's lonely and nobody she knows treats her well. He's the only one she can rely on. The relationship would be more believable if I could understand Won-jun's motivation. Does he just want to take care of her? He has his sister and mother relying on him, having to work and budget in order to live close to school. I didn't get the sense that he enjoyed her company before they were together

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Congratulations to everyone who watched this show at the point of its release. I'm about a month behind - and I still have 3 eps to go - but I'll finish Doona by end of week.
What can I say about Doona? Not a favorite, not a favorite. I'm a wee bit depressed and aggravated by the 1st six eps. I really can't stand a lot of these characters. The plot is... not good. Maybe I didn't do enough research before starting the show but I thought there would be an element of wacky situations pertaining to an average male in the presence of a superstar. Well, it's ep 7 and 'wacky' has yet to appear. Instead I just massage my temples wondering, "will this story get any worse"?
I always post about individual episodes so head over to my page to find those.

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Overall, I liked parts of it. The ending was realistic, they have no connections except for that brief period. He got her out of her funk and I think she got him to open his eyes a bit but at the end of the day, all she can be is a performer and he has family financial responsibilities. This ain't no disco, this ain't no party, this ain't no foolin' around.

But, I didn't like Doona the person. The smoking.... dumping him with no ride at her old house. This is one of those rare shows where I like the guy better than the girl. In my opinion, a lot of rom-con kdramas that I have seen put the acting heavy lifting on the main girl. The guys usually smile or stand stunned or yell something.

The topic was interesting. What happens behind the scenes of a k-idol. Maybe another take with more desperation and soul-searching would have made for a more sympathetic character.

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