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Knight Flower: Episodes 1-2

‘Tis the season of moonlighting heroines, and Honey Lee has joined the league! Knight Flower kicks off on a ratings high, and with its exciting debut week, it’s not hard to see why. The drama invites us on a journey of comedy, action and mystery, and I am seated at the table and ready to feast.

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Knight Flower: Episodes 1-2

Right off the bat, the drama introduces us to the secret life of our heroine, JO YEO-HWA (Honey Lee). A mix of Robin Hood and Batman, Yeo-hwa dons a mask to get justice for the downtrodden folks in the society, distribute relief materials to them, and teach the bad guys a lesson while she’s at it.

In an opening scene that does well to establish the comedic tone of the show, Yeo-hwa raids the Pil inn where she prevents a chronic gambler from parting with his house deed and plunging his family into more misery. Her effort is rewarded with pushback from the inn’s thugs who chase her into a room where there’s an ongoing commotion, and the chaos escalates. Yeo-hwa ends up with a slash on her wrist, but she holds her own against the thugs.

In the midst of the chaos, she lands in the arms of PARK SOO-HO (Lee Jong-won), one of the initial occupants in the room. Yeo-hwa stutters in surprise, and her feminine voice gives away the gender behind the mask. But it’s a short-lived meeting between the two as the morning curfew bell soon rings, and Yeo-hwa has to hurry home. Thankfully, she arrives just in time to change into her White Hanbok of Widowhood before anyone realizes that she’s missing.

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Yeo-hwa’s mother-in-law, LADY YOO (Kim Mi-kyung!), is a traditional mother-in-law who strongly advocates for the propriety and etiquette of widows — especially the part about the widow staying at home all day with just one meal for sustenance. Aigoo! Just say you want her to starve until she joins her husband in the afterlife.

Yeo-hwa spends her days praying for the soul of her late husband, transcribing books, and having nightmares about the punishment that awaits her if she gets involved with another man. As if getting regularly scolded by Lady Yoo isn’t enough, she also has to put up with her sister-in-law’s rants about how she should have just died with her husband. Ouch!

At least Yeo-hwa has a much better relationship with her maid and forever-stressed accomplice, YEON-SEON (Park Se-hyun), and a servant girl, KKOT-NIM, the daughter of the chronic gambler from earlier. Kkot-nim is especially fond of Yeo-hwa, and she embroiders flowers on handkerchiefs for Yeo-hwa’s viewing pleasure because she isn’t allowed to leave the house. With a restrictive life like that, it’s no wonder Yeo-hwa became the Batman of Hanyang. Because it’s better to see the outside world at midnight than not at all.

We come to learn that Soo-ho is a newly appointed officer at the Capital Defense Command. He’s also the adopted son of a prestigious family, and his brother, PARK YOON-HAK (Lee Ki-woo), is the royal secretary and childhood friend of the KING (Heo Jung-do). If Yoon-hak had his way, Soo-ho would lay low all his life and never transfer to Hanyang. But it’s not a case of looking down on the adopted son or not wanting his brother to make a name for himself — Yoon-hak is just worried about Soo-ho’s safety. From his conversation with the king, there seems to be a certain 15-year-old incident that should remain buried in order to protect Soo-ho. But is there any secret that stays buried in dramaland?

By the way, it seems the recent crop of Joseon kings held a meeting and decided not to stress themselves out, because this king is so unbothered by the “ruling” aspect of his role. I wouldn’t be surprised if his nonchalance is deliberate, but at the moment, it’s the Left State Councilor, SEOK JI-SUNG (Kim Sang-joong) who makes the big decisions. Lord Seok doesn’t openly oppose the king, and at face value, he seems genuine in his interactions with everyone. But his non-hostility is unsettling because Joseon Left State Councilors are not to be trusted.

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Of course, Lord Seok is Yeo-hwa’s father-in-law, and his graciousness extends to his family as well. He is very considerate of Yeo-hwa, and he manages to persuade his wife to let her leave the house every now and then to get some air. So, Lady Yoo reluctantly brings an excited Yeo-hwa along to the Moran Gathering, a gathering for VVIP noblewomen at the Myeongdo inn.

As expected of a gathering of classy noblewomen, gossip flows like wine, elegant disses fly up and down, and daughter-in-laws are compared. Lady Yoo wins the “my daughter-in-law is better than yours” battle of wits, and she brags about Yeo-hwa’s painting skills in the process. But it turns out that Yeo-hwa’s famed orchids are actually Yeon-seon’s handiwork. Ha! This is why we should never subcontract our tasks to others.

All eyes are on Yeo-hwa to replicate her painting at the gathering, but her orchid is a disaster as expected. Yeo-hwa is saved by another disaster: the head merchant of the inn, JANG SO-WOON (Yoon Sa-bong), “makes a mistake” while grinding the ink, and the ink splashes all over the paper and Yeo-hwa’s clothes. But Lady Yoo has already been embarrassed by her daughter-in-law’s subpar painting, and Yeo-hwa and Yeon-seon get punished at home.

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It turns out that So-woon and Yeo-hwa are on friendly terms, and Yeo-hwa moonlights under So-woon. Apparently, Yeo-hwa once saved So-woon’s life, and as a result, So-woon is willing to hand over the moonlighting business to Yeo-hwa whenever she is ready. But Yeo-hwa turns it down because she’s not sure of her identity outside being Lord Seok’s daughter-in-law. And while taking over the business may be a way for her to start a new life far away from Hanyang, Yeo-hwa doesn’t want to leave because she’s waiting for her older brother.

Yeo-hwa and her brother used to be really close, and he was the one who taught her how to fight. But 15 years ago, he went on urgent business into the palace one night and never returned (15 years, huh?). With no other relatives around, Yeo-hwa’s uncle married her off to Lord Seok’s son, and unfortunately, she became a widow on her wedding day. Despite everything, Yeo-hwa believes that her brother is still alive, and she maintains a caring disposition toward the people around her.

When Kkot-nim is dragged to Pil inn as payment for her father’s gambling debt, Yeo-hwa comes to her rescue. But instead of her mask, Yeo-hwa dons a colorful hanbok and veils her face with a hat. Yeo-hwa sees Kkot-nim with a nobleman, and she assumes the girl has been sold as a concubine. But the nobleman turns out to be Soo-ho, and he was taking Kkot-nim away out of concern. Yeo-hwa’s veil reminds Soo-ho of the masked woman he met the other day, but she denies the encounter.

Yeo-hwa wins an impromptu auction for Kkot-nim, and takes to her heels to avoid Soo-ho’s interrogation. She flings her shoe at him as a distraction, and before he can catch up with her, he’s accosted by the owner of Pil inn, KANG PIL-JIK (Jo Jae-yoon), and given a stern warning not to mess with his business. Yoon-hak — who is not openly affectionate to Soo-ho — steps in to defend his brother, and Pil-jik backs down. For now.

Soo-ho makes sure to hold on to Yeo-hwa’s shoe as evidence, and Prince Charming’s investigation into the masked lady leads him to Myeongdo inn. So-woon maintains an air of neutrality, and while she acknowledges that she has come in contact with the masked person, she doesn’t divulge Yeo-hwa’s identity.

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But Soo-ho is nothing if not persistent, and you just know he’s not going to rest until he unmasks Yeo-hwa. It’s just like how he became all the more interested in Pil-jik after Yoon-hak’s warning to steer clear of the guy because he is bad news. Although Soo-ho’s interest in Pil-jik also stems from a feeling that he has met the guy somewhere. Hmmm.

As a merchant, Pil-jik has allies among the higher-ups, and he greases their palms every now and then in exchange for corrupt favors. One of such higher-ups is the petty and vain Minister of Finance, YEOM HEUNG-JIB (Kim Hyung-mook) — who has no problem beating an old servant to near-death because the servant accidentally splashed a drop of water on his prized tiger painting.

When Yeo-hwa hears about this, she sneaks into Minister Yeom’s house, and Yeom almost has a heart attack when he discovers that his beloved tiger painting has been switched with a sketch of a giant house cat. LMAO! Soo-ho launches an official investigation into the theft, and he’s further driven by witness statements which point to the masked lady as the culprit.

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The week wraps up with Soo-ho and Yoon-hak visiting the temple for Soo-ho’s birth family’s memorial. Through a flashback, we see that Soo-ho witnessed his entire family’s massacre, and this bloody incident is most likely connected to whatever happened fifteen years ago. Speaking of which, Yeo-hwa also journeys to the temple to pray for her brother’s safe return, but she’s ambushed by hungry bandits.

Soo-ho and Yoon-hak happen on the scene, and Soo-ho jumps in to fight off the bandits. But you know how it goes in dramas. The hero saves the heroine from danger, and she somehow happens to end up in his arms. Again. They twirl in slow motion to a voiceover where Soo-ho states his mission to catch the masked lady, and he urges her to stay out of his line of sight. Ha! How exciting!

This was an entertaining and fast-paced premiere, and I loved every minute of it. I was a bit skeptical about coming into Knight Flower so soon after The Matchmakers because both dramas have similar plot elements. But what this drama lacks in the charm of The Matchmakers, it makes up for in the fun. Although some scenes felt a little repetitive, Knight Flower is charting its own course — especially when it comes to its characters. There is a clear distinction in their characterization and the motives that drive them, and the world they live in seems larger and way different from that of The Matchmakers.

As expected, Honey Lee is amazing in this, and she effortlessly embodies the character of Yeo-hwa. Whether it’s in her comical sides as the masked heroine, her piousness with a hint of mischief as a daughter-in-law, or in her more subtle moments where she’s hit with the limitations of being a widow. Yeo-hwa is a very likeable and easy to root for character, and I can’t wait to see more of her and her noise cancelling earplugs.

The other characters are just as interesting, and they left me wanting to know more about them and their interpersonal relationships. I’m interested in the brotherly relationship between Soo-ho and Yoon-hak, and Yoon-hak and the king. Yoon-hak, the king, and a secret third party are investigating a case, but for now we don’t know what that is. There is also no clear cut antagonist in terms of palace politics, but I’ve got my eyes on Lord Seok. Aside from the bumbling Minister Yeom who seems like a small fry in the grand scheme of things, Pil-jik has also been introduced as a villain, and he seems even more menacing because of the actor playing the role.

There’s bad blood between Pil-jik and So-woon that goes beyond a simple merchant rivalry, and there also seems to be a story with him and Minister Yeom’s wife — whose character is shaping up to be more than just your regular noblewoman. As with the drama offerings of late, Knight Flower has set up a fun story and paired it with a not-so-fun/bordering-on-dark side, and I look forward to seeing how well this show balances both parts.

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I too was unexpectedly delighted by Knight Flower. Despite its overlap with The Matchmakers, I'm not directly comparing the two shows. Instead, I see it as a screen adaptation of one of Sam Soon's delightful erotic novels featuring her stoic officer and daredevil female ninja. And faithful to its pulpy origins, its goal is fast-pace fun, which it delivers.

Having said that, I was surprised by how dark a Joseon it presented compared to its predecessor. And living in a country where widows remain ostracized for life, children are still sold to pay off debts, and servants can be bloodily beaten, I wasn't sure how they would make a comedy of such fare. But Yeo-hwa made it more than palatable, in her refusal to accept these injustices, her determination to set them right, and her hilarious antics as she does so. Ain't no one gonna get this widow down.

And all credit goes to Honey Lee. What a delicious performance, be it drumming it up at the shrine, delighting in the morsels she's given, and the satisfaction with which she paints her forged masterpiece, The Kitty. If our officer falls for her, I wouldn't be surprised. May the shoe fit! I hope Beanies will be kind in their comments toward Honey Lee. Perhaps in this world you can't imagine a man would be interested in an older woman, despite how attractive and charming she is. But a different world is possible. Let it play out on our screen.

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I haven’t started watching it but appreciate your comment both in substance and because it is you who is the header comment and not one of those who want 40+ women to be invisible and not go anywhere near young and comely men. Heaven forbid such things occur.

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Yes, ALL WOMEN 40-99 and ALL MEN 40-99. Unless, it's illegal, I find age difference in fictional character (and real people) ridiculous. I mean, I'm pretty radical in this view. If two people are ready, in love, and are committed to the relationship, I don't give a fig. I wish more people feel the same way too. Entire generation of older men and women are getting plastic surgeries, feel painfully insecure, develop body dysmorphia and a host of mental issues because a society tells them what is an "acceptable" age gap in the couple and combined with a pressure to get married in 30's, it's a crippling combination. Worse, more often than not the society mock and denigrate people or find it cringey and disgusting. And as a result an increasing amount of elderly people feel defeated and discouraged and end up being alone. I really don't know why my friends find my viewpoint so uncomfortable/controversial. Perhaps, it's power dynamic they are worried about in these types of relationship or perhaps there's something more biological that goes on here. But again I wish the large age gaps were more accepted and respected in our society overall.

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I wish it was the power dynamics that drove that kind of appalling commentary as that aspect certainly can be and at times is insidious but no, it is not that. It is just driven by the centuries old propaganda that the only things that make a woman valuable are youth, fertility, beauty and a dowry (or its modern equivalents). Mess with this formulae, even in a fictional setting and all hell breaks loose. Imagine an old woman of 40+!! who is probably no longer fertile in proximity to a younger man? What horror! Call the KD police and take away Honey Lee!

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Ahmen, sis, ahmen! As a society we need galactic miles to go in this direction.

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As a long time Honey Lee fan I was expecting a blast but she has definitely exceeded expectations. From the very first scene we knew "this" was the real Yeo Hwa who can take on 17 men! *swoon*👏 Now this is the kind of FL I can get behind.
While it is obviously a very dark subject matter hope they remember the "comedy" part in the description of the drama.
Show Honey Lee some love Beans!! 🫶

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We are here for Honey Lee, whether the drama sucks or not.😂

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Ouch. I didn't think the drama sucked, not yet at least. 😅 I just don't want us to suck talking about women.

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I didn't say it sucked. :)
I hope it stays light-hearted and fun since there are only 12 episodes.

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The 12 episodes give me a bit more hope, less room to fail. 😂

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👍👏

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Senior actors unfortunately get the flacks when they get to play the main characters, instead of sides. Yet, they do deliver the ratings. I remember reading somewhere that someone actually commented that the character is too old and too ugly...but it turns out the rating is quite high for the drama because of that said actor/actress

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Honey Lee is wonderful...again! I think this is the best I've seen her. Much more invested than I was for The Matchmakers, although I enjoyed it. I'm loving Knight Flower!

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Somehow I prefer the casting here then Matchmakers...this one has more depth and having Honey Lee as the FL makes it even better.

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That kind of commentary is just disgusting. For the record, they have chemistry together so these awful people can just stop watching and commenting.

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I hadn't thought one second about age difference, but of course, he is a little brother, and she has been a widow for a million years.
Mind you, she might have been married at thirteen.

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During Joseon days, it is the norm to marry in your early teens

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I’ve been reading some traveler accounts of late Joseon that put noblewomen’s marriage around 15-17. Tho I’m sure there’s considerable range and depends on the specific time period. And with a kind brother who was training her, perhaps the FL might have been even a wee older? Add 15 years of widowhood to that, we’re looking at someone in their 30s by my calculation. We don’t know the ML’s age, but I think you’re right, his character is probably younger.

But the fuss is more about the actor’s real ages. That Honey Lee is 40 and too old for him (29), but also just too old, period. I have no patience with the latter, and while I think we could have a nuanced debate on age gaps, the Internet has yet again proved to be a terrible place for it, and for women in general.

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Wiki says that when the crown prince was going to marry, they would call in girls aged 13-17.

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@ceciliedk I believe the royal family did wed young, but she’s no crown princess. And Wiki, not always a reliable source, also gives the minimum age of marriage for noblewomen as 14 in early Joseon and in the late, as 16. I don't know the upper end of the range, but it was 24 if we were to believe The Matchmakers 😀, or more typically around 20. Didn't she look on the older side of the range in her flashbacks with her brother?

So, in-btwn these minimums and maximums, it’s still possible she’s in her 30s after 15 additional years of widowhood.

Anyway, I also keep discussing women's ages when I'd much rather focus on the drama, which was off to a fun start. Let's see if it can keep it up.

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@indyfan since you have been readying some history, have you read how often a man or women dies on their wedding day??? I'm seeing this a lot as a plot point for women and men but find it just sad and unbelievable. Made worse because the poor human left behind is stuck in an aweful situation. (women in Poong Joseon Psych, man in Matchmaker, and this one

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You are too kind @23new2kdrama Alas, I have no particular knowledge of Korean history tho I readily gobble up the crumbs that expert Beanies such as @kiara throw my way.

Yet, I have enough hubris to say, with near 100% confidence, there have been no studies on how many Joseon newlyweds died on their wedding night. And with equal confidence to say it’s an awfully convenient plot point—and I’ll add, with far less certitude, one that leaves behind chaste spouses in an era where purity mattered.

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Well, this was fun! I was also a bit wary to start yet another Joseon drama so quickly after THE MATCHMAKERS, but for one, the vibe of this is really different, and for two, I guess I just got into the fusion sageuk groove. 😂

The characters seem very likable, and the story unfolds in an engaging way. Of course, the connections between the histories of most characters are already blaringly obvious as pointed out in the recap (that incident 15 years ago, where Suho’s family and Yeohwa’s brother died, Pil’s entanglement into it all (how come he has the same butcher’s knife as was used in the ambush on Suho’s family?), the potentially political move of the left state minister to have Yeohwa marry into his family, while she didn’t obviously seem to have anything going in her favor at the time etc etc) - but color me intrigued!

Thus far, some scenes are downright hilarious (her painting abilities 🤣🐅👏), the fighting scenes are well choreographed and I’m already rooting for Yeohwa & Suho. (Yes, I do hope there will be romance!)

While my inner dragon sure is provoked by the obvious misogyny and injustice visible in some scenes, I’m still looking forward to the next episodes. I hope they’ll be as entertaining as the first two have been, instead of getting too dark 👏🫰

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I love the King here. But, I didn't expect that he'd be serious with state affairs to that extent. I guess it makes sense that he maintains that exterior to his court.

Yeo Hwa can't draw to save her life but i think for the first time, she got to put her lack of homemaking artistic talent to use with the drawing of the mountain tiger🤣.

So her husband died the day they were supposed to be wedded. How dare the spoilt brat of a daughter screeches that she should have died with her brother. Like...what gives🤷🏽‍♂️.

I'm guessing thug merchant shares family ties with the wife of the finance minister. She might be his mom, or his elder sister.

Yeo Hwa and her maid has the very best chemistry in the show for now.

Thug man, Yeo Hwa's father-in-law and other agents at play sure had a hand in the events 15 years ago that led to Soo-ho's family massacre and the disappearance of Yeo Hwa's brother. I'm very ready for her brother to come along and whisk her out of that household.

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I was a little confused. Was she actually married or is betrothal enough to consign her to widowhood? We didn't see her husband either, right? Could she have been a ghost bride? Anyway, something seems fishy.

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I think the husband was ambushed on his way to the wedding. So something is definitely fishy.

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I also don't understand the timeline of events 15 years ago and how the marriage ties in.

Yeo Hwa was sold into the marriage within 30-60 days of her brother's whereabouts not known.

And it seems like Lord Seok's son, Yeo Head's brother, the massacre of Soo-ho's family occured in one night.

I'm of the opinion that Lord Seok's family married Yeo Hwa into their house as vengeance for what happened that night and/or he personally struck Lord Seok's son down. It is most likely the latter since that is more personal. So, they used greedy uncle to carry out their deeds and perhaps backdated the time when Yeo Hwa was dating their son to the public, except she wasn't cause she never even knew him.

Since she's now without immediate family and the greedy uncle is there, there was no one to oppose Seok family antics.

I know this postulates might be incorrect as more information is given. But I made this deductions based on her MIL's BB behavior and the comment of their uncultured bratty daughter.

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I'm impressed you deducted this much from these episodes! I'm looking forward to learning more about the mystery.

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She became a widow on her wedding day. So presumedly, like Jung-woo, she has been married in every way except consumption.

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"Consumption"
Some typos are better than others 😂

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😄🫰🏻

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We didn’t actually see the wedding, right? But I think even betrothed women were considered widowed if their fiancé died before the wedding and had to live out their lives as such. When I first read that, I was gobsmacked.

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Exactly.
Yeo Hwa's marriage situation gave me The Secret Romantic Guesthouse vibes. The female lead's elder sister was in the same scenario.

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That was the situation in The Secret Romantic Guesthouse too.

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With Honey Lee as the main female lead and coming from the director from Hyenna, the drama is definitely an absolute delight to watch as the heroine is not a mere weak widow in her fourties, besides being a social commentary on Joseon society.

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The subject can remind The Matchamakers but the story and style are very different. The Matchmakers was more unique in its story and direction.

Knight Flower is a typical comedy sageuk with the dark part of Joseon, its action and palace intrigues.

I wished that Yeo-hwa was smarter to hide her secret night life by being really a good widow and not just faking everything. But Honey Lee is pretty funny in this role.

Soo-ho will be important in the future to play with the "what happened 15 years ago" and how it's connected to her brother?

I hope Yoon-hak will be good during the whole drama! I want bromance not back stabbing.

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But she was married quickly against her will to someone she didn't know, who died on the wedding day. And being a "good widow" means not going outside ... FOR YEARS ... and starving.
Of course she can't do that. Rebellion is a matter of survival, and not only because she needs to eat.

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What? I didn't say she shouldn't have her secret life.

I said if she was more serious in her "widow" role, it would have been better for her. She could convince her MIL she's capable of things and get access to food for example.

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I think she is actually doing the best she can. But she is hungry, because she only sometimes gets to eat enough, and tired, because she has a full schedule both day and night, an also, maybe she is just not talented at the conventional trad wife things. (Though she was embroidering beautifully, and though it was funny, i also thought her cat painting was impressive (obviously not as the original, but certainly better than most people could draw a cat).
You saw how she fell asleep over the thing she was writing.
I also thought a bit about ADHD, where you can be really good at things that naturally interests you, while it can take an immense effort, close to being impossible, to concentrate on things you are not naturally disposed to be invested in.
But her symptoms may just come from lack of sleep and food.

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I loved first two episodes. Honey Lee is fantastic in it. She effortlessly switches between the sorrowful widow burdened with society’s exception of her, without any colour or any life of her own and mischievous, swashbuckling vigilante.
The male lead is not as strait-laced as he looks. He is mischievous and he is trying to apprehend lady knight because she challenges him, intrigues him. Upholding law is just an excuse!
I loved how worst oppressor of Yeo-hwa are women and her best accomplices are also women.
The feeling of So-woon and Yeon-seon for Yeo-hwa goes beyond mere concern, sympathy or gratitude. They genuinely love her.
With history of seguke k-drama watching under my belt, I am suspicious of left minister. He is not entirely in clear for the past incident which destroyed male leads family and disappearance of Yeo-Hwa’s brother.

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I was a bit skeptical about coming into Knight Flower so soon after The Matchmakers because both dramas have similar plot elements. But what this drama lacks in the charm of The Matchmakers, it makes up for in the fun. Although some scenes felt a little repetitive

This is exactly what I mentioned in premiere post, but I am dropping this one because it has all the signs of turning into a serious sageuk in the latter half. @unit Thanks for the recap!

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There's a thing about age... Why do we care so much that we need to constantly place women in carefully locked little boxes. Is she over 40? Is she ready to be discarded yet? I have no asked to live in such a rotten world and I shall use all my words to fatality injure that rot.

I am not a fan of Honey Lee as an actress (because she can feel incredibly forced in most things I got to watch her in - and yes, even those first few episodes of Fiery Priest before I got used to her character) but age...? I do not have a single f*ck to give about that.

First, the woman looks gorgeous anyway.
Secondly, please 40+... ? How is that even old in a society where we can now live to 100?
Thirdly, her 40+ would put a lot of 25-year-olds to shame, if we are busy comparing (which we really shouldn't by the way — can we make 2024 the year where we stop discriminating those who have had the good grace not to die young and beautiful?)
Fourthly, her character is probably designed to be younger, so let's roll with the story instead.

Also Kim Mi-kyung is turning into oner incredibly busy K drama mother these days. And I do not mind because she's incredibly cool.

Anyway over.

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Can I please frame your comment and put it up on the wall? Thanks!

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with all its glorious typos lol!

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I laughed when I saw her ... "Oh, THE MOTHER!"
I only started watching k-dramas in 2022, but she has been the mother or mother figure in ... idk, a tenth of the dramas I have seen, or something.
Though this time, she seems pretty horrible - while also under some pressure.

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I must admit that the Good Bad Mother has forever shaped my expectations of a mother figure.

If you're not forcibly drowning your handicapped child in a random river, you're a good enough mother.

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Yes, without having seen exactly that one, The Left State Minister of The Matchmakers and the police dad in Castaway Diva formed my bar for a parent, and I am so brilliant i can hardly encompass it. Like I don't even chase my children around in our home while I hit them as hard as I kan, as Mi-kyung does in Samdal-ri ...
I'm practically an angel!

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😇 👼

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someone's better receive a huuuuuuge present on Mother's Day!

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Yes, I'll make sure to tell them how thankful they ought to be! 🤣

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Thank you Unit for your enthusiastic recap :)
I enjoyed this. 
Both the leads are really good for their roles.
I find the ML really mysterious and compelling. He was great in The Golden Spoon. 
It was funny to see Bok - kyu from My Demon as the king. 
I really hope they keep the comedy and action as I still feel somewhat burnt out from My Dearest and all the dark, painful machinations.
I'm only on episode six of The Matchmakers so can't compare too much but I have issues with Rowoon and his acting so maybe this will be a better fit for me. I agree with other beanies though that TM is very pretty and beautifully filmed so I'm persisting with the show. 

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The FL here is more mature and has more experience in acting. You will not be disappointed.

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The show really doesn't need to give its leads dramatic backstories (about Soo Ho's family & Yeo-Hwa's brother). All the social pressure that Yeo Hwa is under is already tragic enough. I don't even think it needs a big villain. The drama is at its best when our female Hong Gil Dong lets poor thieves rob her, and the heroic Prince Charming jumps out to save her. A weekly villain would have been enough.

On another note, the chemistry is there and the leads look great together. I would even feel betrayed if they don't add romance to the drama thinking production shied away from that. Yeo Hwa can't spend her whole life being single and living under her not-fully tyrannical mother-in-law. I don't even like the prospect of her becoming the top merchant, because it would mean the current one died. Marrying someone who knows who she is and supports her would be the best case scenario for everyone.

Lastly, I love the king. While it is clear that he is planning something big, you can also see that dude is just naturally chill and friendly. Him, Yeo Hwa's maid and the top merchant are all well written characters and I would hate to see any of them die.

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It definitely is there for ne too.

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Confession: this is my first Honey Lee drama!
I checked it out only because of beanies excitement even though this isn’t my genre. And I already love her!! She is absolutely hilarious.
And I was a little neutral about our rule abiding male lead, but I was willing to change my attitude the moment he held on to those dear Cinderella shoes 😂

As much as the tone is comedic, the reality and dark aspects of being a woman in Joseon is glaring. Especially being a widow. It was tough to watch her mourn for 15 freaking years!! Wearing the mourning clothes, not going out, not even eating well. The only thing they haven’t done is murder her (of course she can’t be since she will win the fight).

I love her and her maid. And the merchant. I like this team of women. I will be rooting for them.

I am a bit worried about it going dark or going too into politics. I am here as long as it remains fun.

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It'd be funny if they enacted the scene from MM, where Rowoon, while imagining an investigation, near faints as the suspect lady lifts her hanbok to reveal her shoes and ankles. Our KF officer has genuine reason to go around looking for the foot the shoe fits. 😂

It's my first Honey Lee drama too!

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LOL. I hope the shoe plays a bigger role!!

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Oh! If you like her here so far, I think you might enjoy One the Woman and Fiery Priest. One the Woman is especially bonkers, but it's a Lee Ha Nee vehicle and I thought she carried it through quite amazingly. I didn't worry about logic too much and totally enjoyed the Honey Lee ride there!

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Adore the opening episodes of this show. I couldn’t quite get into The Matchmakers but feel more invested in Knight Flower. Not sure why? But I do appreciate that the characters are older in this one (giving it more gravitas) and I appreciate how well they’ve depicted the harsh realities of Joseon.

Also! If there is going to be a romance, I think this is indeed a noona romance. It seems like there is one singular incident / connected string of incidents that happen around the same time - and this incident is the Great Tragedy in which both leads lost their families / brother. Yeo Hwa was already married but Soo Ho seems to have been too young.

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I barely survive the first two episodes of The Matchmakers, as I prefer my saeguk characters to be a bit more mature and yes...more epics, instead on dwelling on romance only. Yes, gravitas is also another pulling factor for me.

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Youth doesn't mean immature.... The ML was immature in The Matchmakers but it was the situation aka Joeson ways that made it like this and it's why it was interesting to see him growing up. The FL was pretty mature, more than the FL in Knight Flower actually.

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For me, i prefer my characters older....plus the actors too.

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I understood. But like I said, she's older not more mature. It's too different things.

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Yes, Rowoon said in an interview that he specifucally imagined a man that hadn't matured since he was 17. ("30 but 17" 😉 ). He played that very well, the know-it-all-ness of inexperience as well as the innocence.

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@unit, thanks for the recap.
I like it so far. The Ml does not seem very sageuk-y, but that’s just me.
The MIL can die now. sorry Kim Mi Kyung
I like the side characters.
I am amazed at all the wrangling over the FL’s age. Aigoo.

The knetz “people” may kill my interest not only in this show but K dramas period. Perhaps they can hound someone else to death, apparently it is a sport in Korea.

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On the other hand, looking at the ratings, the TV watching folks were much more forgiving. May she go laughing all the way to the top of the charts.

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Aigoo . I fell down a rabbit hole reading about Choi Jin-sil’s and Jung Da Bin’s suicides. 😪
People harassing them to death, literally .
Aigoo. Star one day , trash the next

Back to the age thing . They are actors in a role. You are going to work with the cast that has been hired .

Unless there is actor or actress with enough power to call who they work with , you are going to do what the director asks for.
Is the culture that weird ? OMG she’s 40 ! Sirens 🚨! alert 🔔

Aigoo rant over
Anyways , the show is worth tuning into next week 😉🙂

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Are those korean's comments? The show is doing great over there. I assumed all the negativity came from international underage viewers.

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First. With the exception of starting and putting on hold KBS’s daeha sageuk THE GORYEO-KHITAN WAR, KNIGHT FLOWER is my first sageuk since JOSEON ATTORNEY (Mar.-May 2023). JA was enough of a disappointment for me to place myself on a sageuk sabbatical for the rest of 2023 meaning I missed MY DEAREST, THE MATCHMAKERS and whatever other ‘fusiony’ sageuks appeared on the scene.
Second. KF is my first Honey Lee drama and first Lee Jong-won drama except for his appearance in tvN’s HOSPITAL PLAYLIST 2 (2021) and frankly I don’t recall his part.
Third. I loved the first two episodes. Honey Lee (and presumably her stunt double) has been great in the action scenes. LJW (and maybe his stunt double) will have his work cut out for him keeping up.
(@sicarius, In my mind I am already calling LJW’ s character Soo-ho, BEAN BOY 2: The Good One lol).
Among the characters one thing that surprised me in the first episodes is that for the life of me I couldn’t recognize actor Kim Sang-joong under the facial hair of Left State Councilor Seok. KSJ was a hook that drew me to this drama and he has such a distinct appearance but here he blends with all the other ministers.

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Kim Sang-joong was on fire as the legendary Hong Gil-dong's father, Hong Ah-mo-gae in REBEL, and Honey Lee as Noksu. It's good to see them together in another sageuk where they actually share scenes together. I love that Kim Sang-Joong is the father-in-law of the female version of Hong Gil-dong.

@sicarius, I have never heard of an Acorus sword before. Is it a real thing?

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"Through a flashback, we see that Soo-ho witnessed his entire family’s massacre, and this bloody incident is most likely connected to whatever happened fifteen years ago. "

I mean. AAAAGAAAAAAAAAAAIN?!? Dramaland, when are you going to subvert this? There are elements of K-drama that are absolutely appealing but when if it's being on repeat from sageuk to sageuk to sageuk, I'm questioning if this a wise thing to do for us, audience. We might get bored, you know.

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This drama has all the elements to be like Inspector Joy, Joseon Attorney, etc. They started with a lot of fun outside the palace and then politics and past secrets took over.

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Ugh, that's why I wait until 3-4 recaps to get myself into sageuk. I'm really tired skipping through all the "palace politics" and "past massacres" at this point. It's not to say I don't like these tropes, I just wish they subvert them / made them more interesting / etc not just an easy plot points to supposedly raise stakes for our characters.

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It's why The Matchmakers was a gem! The politics never took over the main story. It was very well layered with the matchmaking part.

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I’m going to channel a few commenters here who always remind us that the drama makers don’t care about the views of the non-Korean viewers. If that is the case, it is a pity.

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Can't run away from it, regardless if it is fusion, epic or faction.

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I didn't love this like everyone here seems to. I was horrified by Yeo-hwa's mother-in-law's treatment. I would be sad if Left State Councilor Lord Seok turned out to be evil as he's the only person in their household who is kind to Yeo-hwa.

I would be shocked if the drama paired Yoon-hak, a royal secretary, with Yeon-seon, a maid, after their run-in at the bookstore. So Yoon-hak's a widow too as the king said he lost his wife ten years ago. I like how the king is putting on an act of being disinterested in politics and almost gave himself away questioning Lord Seok about the memorial stones in a drought.

It was sad seeing Yoon-hak treat Soo-ho all cold at the Pil inn ("You can leave."), so I'm thankful how quickly Soo-ho found out that his older brother truly cares by Yoon-hak visiting his parents at the temple every year.

More than the romance, I'm most interested in the relationship between Yeo-hwa and Lady Jang. I already loved when Lady Jang "accidentally" splashed ink over the painting to save Yeo-hwa, but it was even better when we learned that they're working together.

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I’ve decided to refer to her as Lee Hanee. It is much nicer sounding to me than Honey Lee.

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One more thing about Lee Hanee. I had no idea of the following which is so impressive! Did any of you know she was considered a gayageum prodigy?

“Lee is a professional gayageum player,[7] a Korean music instrument. She was named a gayageum prodigy by the Kumho Art Center, the most prestigious musical foundation in Korea.[8] She has released four CDs and played in more than 25 countries, including concerts at Carnegie Hall in New York City. In 2017, she participated in the largest-ever mass performance of the gayageum as part of the two-day Uijeongbu International Gayageum Festival.” Source WP

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She's been well known for her talents in traditional Korean musical instruments and traditional dance even in dramaland.
In "Rebel: Thief Who Stole the People" (2017), she did a traditional dance, played the gayageum, and the janggu.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYT4paeimog&ab_channel=MBCdrama

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She is so awesome in so many ways!

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I knew that you would know!

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I'm in no way as educated as @kiara but I knew this too. I have been a fan of Lee HaNee since her first drama Partner in 2009.

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Great. I was just impressed by the ‘prodigy’ bit as it is high praise and wanted to know if anyone else knew about the ‘prodigy’ characterisation.

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Yes, you are @midnight! You know as much, if not more. I just remember things and people that kept me watching K-dramas.

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You are too kind, @kiara , but I'm definitely not 😅

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You are to me!

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Its only January and I already have my drama cracktastic watching in this drama! I love Honey Lee and this looks to be the BEST! Its one I will watch slowly, not wanting it to end but have to watch to see what happens each week! Happy days ahead of us!

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I really enjoyed the first two episodes. I had this on my radar as soon as I'd heard Lee Ha Nee was going to be in it and she didn't disappoint. She's just oodles of charisma in everything, she can do comedy, tragedy, all of it without seeming out of place and keep looking gorgeous through everything. Lol, I think even with stuff she does that I'd find a bit ott on someone else in comedic moments, she manages to carry it off fully.

I do see the Matchmakers feeling because of the setting and widowhood with double life, but it feels very different. The good different is that she feels like a very different character than the fl in matchmakers, as does the ml, and the action makes for a very fun change. The slightly bad different is that there isn't as good an ensemble as Matchmakers had, and the really horrible MIL and SIL are very stereotypical. But it's just been two episodes so I hope there will be more aspects to the female in laws, since they're not the big plot evil ones here, and that there will be more ensemble supporters beyond the few we saw.

I think the leads have good chemistry, I haven't seen Jong Won in anything before, but he's cute and I like their dynamic. The touch of whimsy with Yeo Hwa where she's obviously not that young and has maturity in her experiences with life, but was deprived of a fulfilling life by being forced into the unfairness of a widow's existence for so many years and therefore looks for fulfillment when she can in secret, makes for a really fun mix with the trying to be upright in a messy world younger man.

I also liked how much genuine comedy there was in moments I didn't expect. The tiger painting cracked me up so much, I hope the dark stuff doesn't take over this lighter tone.

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