Mad Dog Fan Wall Community Watch, Episodes 7-9.
Come on in! No need to have been part of the conversation before, and no commitment to follow through all the way to the end!

GIFs courtesy of @attiton and someone on Tumblr. Cheekbones courtesy of a benevolent and generous deity.

Previous episode discussions here (1-3) and here (4-6).

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    Whoa, Elinor – I’ll be posting some Real Thoughts, but you have giffed my favorite moment in eps 7-9 here!!! Yay!!❤️

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      Thank you for making this conversation space, @elinor! Ok, now that we know the full story of Min Joon’s brother, I’m more emotionally invested. And this is because of Woo Do Hwan – he grieves so convincingly (*cue traumatic flashbacks to watching Joseon Attorney*). It’s a good narrative choice to start making him more of the emotional center of the show.
      Episode 7
      –I zone out when they start talking about technical insurance stuff – oops.
      –Baddie talking to the reporter: “I’m not such a depraved person” — Me: “Lol I think you are”
      –Ugh the “ML” continues to be so rude and condescending to Min Joon 😤 DUDE stahp. Just work together already – we’re almost halfway through the drama!!
      –Ack the wall-slam save!!😂😍 They have great chemistry. And I appreciate that Ha Ri is actively trying to keep Min Joon safe.
      Episode 8
      –When Min Joon and Ha Ri were flirting and Pentium and Cheetah were fully invested in said flirting 😂
      –Ooh it looks like that cool reporter will be back! Excellent.
      — I’m not sure why the scene with the paper expert delighted me so much, but it did.
      –Oh man his ice cream story 🥺❤️
      –FINALLY. Now that the ML’s are no longer so antagonistic, I’m enjoying this much more.
      –Oooh that tense scene at the baddie’s safe was 🔥 Also, that room is hideous (tartan wallpaper, stone paneling, brocade couch, etc).
      Episode 9
      –Hmm. The police officer reveal wasn’t surprising, but the reaction of the “ML” to this betrayal makes me realize – he’s been pretty naive about how closely this conspiracy might hit him…
      –Stuff happened, but I’m not worried.

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        In Ep 8, when the restaurant meet-up was being surveilled by the team, the Taehwa dude turned ally mouthed the word in Korean for dating and Netflix’ sub also used ‘dating’ so perhaps the trio were all seeing the writing on the wall and hurrying things up.

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        All your comments are so perfect Hopeful … I have really nothing more to add!

        Somehow Woo Do-hwan’s sadness is much more heart wrenching than Yoo Ji-tae.

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          Thank you Cera! 😊 This sounds bad, but Woo Do Hwan’s sadness is really nice to watch – he does such a good job with showing it.

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            I know it sounds dodgy and I want Woo Do-hwan to be happy … he’s just more mesmerizing when he’s sad on screen.

            I’ve heard some actors have to go to therapy to overcome their tragic on-screen portrayals … hope Woo Do-hwan gets plenty to laugh about and continues to entertain us for a long long time.

            No one in this drama is able to match up to him. The surprising fact is that the drama is chock-full of really very good actors, all of whom we have seen shining on other dramas but here everyone pales in front of the “anti-hero” – is that how one would describe Min-joon’s character?

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    @elinor and @hopefulromantic I’m going to be totes honest with you two. I’ve zoned out on the plot here. Don’t care at all what happens anymore. Maybe I’ll become emotionally invested like Hopeful, maybe not.

    BUT, I will keep on keeping on, because, well, you know why. No matter what you’re thinking right now–that’s probably at least part of why, and I know you also understand.

    So, I’m gonna try something that will be fun for me, and hopefully fun for you. I’m just going to “live-tweet” my speed-watching. I don’t know how many screenshots I’ll end up taking. Maybe only this one. But boy is this one funny to me.

    I mean, it’s pretty clear that IRL, I’m in a tech-adjacent field. I always love to see fictious interfaces. I also love to watch the (sometimes) real interfaces, like when we see the programs being written by characters…and from time to time they’re actually appropriate to the thing the character is trying to do. I can read code easier than Hangul 😂

    Anyway (ooh, I need to make that CCIR gif of her aaaanyway SQUIRREL 🐿🐿🐿), ya think Pentium’s a hacker with his hack-only programs and his hacking_data_screens??? Hacky-hack-hack. 🤣

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      Haha this is excellent!! Also, I need to note – I’m MORE emotionally invested than before (*before it was 0%*), but still far, faaaaar away from my normal level of investment. I’ve still in it primarily for Woo Do Hwan’s performance. I love the perspective you bring to this, Seon-ha! And live-tweeting is the way to go… I started doing that with last week’s watch, but this time I was having a hard time coming up with thoughts, as evidenced by my “stuff happened” closing line 🙃

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      “Hacking data screen” lol.
      Now I’m side-eyeing all the “hack-ery” stuff done by Pentium … not that I’m going back to watch.

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    This one’s aimed right at you, @elinor.

    I mean sheesus. “Punchable face” doesn’t even come close. Also, this is not only his “signature collar” malarkey, but look at the tie in question!! It was this tie that made me hit PrtScrn.

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      That look is an abomination. All of it – smirk, haircut, collar, tie – cries out to be punched. He’s not a “good” villain because there’s nothing appealing, complex, funny, redeemable, or even interesting about him; all he has is “trying too hard.”

      I was struggling to get emotionally invested in the first couple of episodes when Yoo Ji-tae was all sad and mad and Woo Do-hwan was all smart-aleck snottiness. But as @HopefulRomantic says, WDH grieves so beautifully – unfortunately that makes YJT come off as a bit flat by comparison.

      I’m no expert, but the insurance tech stuff seems even less reliable than the structural engineering stuff.

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        Yeah… everything about this guy annoys me. I think he pales in comparison to Park Sung-Hoon’s unhinged pyschopathy (who was actually scary, even in this show), and so he just seems like he’s too hard – “ooh, look at me, I’m a quirky villain who cuts his own hair and wears his tie outside his collar ON PURPOSE”

        I agree with you, Elinor, that as Woo Do Hwan is given more to do emotionally, YJT pales in comparison. I keep using FF in YJT’s moping scenes😅

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          I am impressionable so can’t look at Park Sunghoon with my previously kindly disposed lens as hadn’t seen him in anything else until the recent mother daughter drama. Don’t know why but the fact that he was thinner also added to his frightfulness for me.

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          In retrospect it’s funny because Choi Won Young is an excellent actor, and does villains super well- see: I Remember You/Hello Monster – but from my limited memory about this show, the script wasn’t all… there… so I’m sure he was doing the tacky annoying thing on purpose, and Park Sung Hoon was given a cameo and so just turned the dial up to 11 and went HAM on the psycho, and then we were all left wondering why the PD/Writer’s didn’t have it the other way round with their characters’ screen time and place in the plot… lmao

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        I am a bit online-protective of YJT because of how much I loved him and others in Healer and When my love blooms (had some good bits but overall not stellar). Both dramas had political sub-themes. WDH though is just something else. Just incandescent on screen.

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      Malarkey indeed. What bullshit was that? I contend that the character’s vileness and predatory nature was amplified because of that stupid collar bizo.

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      OH THIS TIE THING. okay @elinor I remember now HAHAHA

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    OH, no. Those aren’t the “right” gifs above. THIS is the @attiton-approved gif 🙂

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    WOO DO-HWAN’S FACE. Cheetah’s a bad, bad boy wonderful man.

    I’m still laughing about this, even having watched it 20 times.

    @elinor @hopefulromantic @seeker @dncingemma

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    They are stupendous together in their scenes.

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      I can already tell where my “Seon-ha’s SLS”is gonna lie…in that silver-haired ex-con.

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        Have you seen him in Wok of Love??? Also as a silver-haired ex-con???

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          I have not! I know @elinor also liked WoL, but there’s something about it (I can’t remember what) that I know I won’t like. I can find out if you want to know 🙂

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            Have you started disliking Junho as he is in it too!😱

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            WoL started off as a really different kind of show, and then decided partway through to be a different different kind of show, and then eventually couldn’t decide what it wanted to be at all. But it still had fabulous actors and some wonderful parts. The two MLs and the FL are oddballs, their relationships are offbeat and engaging, Junho bangs knives and woks around with vigor, and there’s a very cute kitten. I wasn’t as crazy about Jo Jae-yun, though – I feel like he plays almost every character in a very similar way.

            I’m still working on episode 10 here so I’ve been hanging back on the discussion, but does Hong-joo ever do anything except furrow her brow and repeat whatever someone just said to her?

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            But @elinor we’re only up to episode 9 as a group, right? I’ve been holding off on my comments/images fun for episodes 10-12 until the weekend…so I don’t think you need to hold back??

            @hopefulromantic I think it’s your turn in the rotation to host this coming weekend for episodes 10-12, but I am also happy to do it if you find that onerous for whatever reason.

            Elinor, to your other point, I can’t really answer your question about Hong-joo, because I FF all her scenes. So far, though, I can say that I’ve lost literally no thread of the plot by doing this, as I can tell from her face in 10-second skips what’s happening!! 😉

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            @attiton and @elinor That sounds good – I’ll post a conversation space on Sunday! *That will also give me time to catch up with the next three episodes.* I think it speaks to how closely I’m following the plot that it took me A WHILE to remember who Hong-joo was…

            Very very much looking forward to the gifs!!!

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            @attiton Right, I just finished ep. 9 – I’m confused, not ahead of the game.

            Excellent strategy for Hong-joo. She’s really quite lame, as both a character and an actor in this.

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            Wok of Love was just odd … and each character odder than the last.
            Jang Hyuk would spout philosophy wearing black sunglasses. 😎

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    KANNGGGG!!

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      FAVE this asshole has my whole heart (and hers)

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      One interesting thing (at least to me): He actually uses the word beast in Korean, “짐승”, not animal, “동물”. So it’s an allusion to (wild) beasts rather than domestic animals, the former not being enslaved by humans.

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        Ha! So many nuances I miss – thanks! But why did he say “Kang!”?

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            Now I’m even more confused, because MDL and AsianWiki (and the subs) say her family name is Jang. I am vaguely aware there’s some J/K crossover thing that happens in Korean, but the operative word there is ‘vaguely.’

            There are lots of dog-related plays on words that the subs do capture, but I assume there are many more that they don’t.

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          My Korean’s obviously not as good as Emma’s, but I think I understand two things. One, it rhymes with her family name *I had that wrong in the first comment–can’t leave that error!!! 😁 🙂

          But, two, he later uses that same syllable as a word that the subs translate as “Bark” or “Woof” (I forget which). So, with my SUPER limited knowledge–actually this is more a fantasy based on wishful thinking–he’s making a little joke about her name, being “beasts” and barking like a (mad) dog.

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            @elinor Yes, that was my bad memory not your bad reading. I heard it as her name when he said it because of the rhyme, and then never corrected my memory until I typed and sent it 🙂 I HATE being wrong like this, but have to eat my words here.

            I’m not wrong about the “bark” thing though, although Viki doesn’t have Korean CC subs, so I can’t check the two actual words…

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            OK. I should have been, you know, working, but I didn’t. Instead, I found where I heard him say “KANG” in a similar tone. Good news. I found it in time for my meeting in 8 minutes. Bad news…I actually only inferred that the word was “bark.” @dncingemma Have a listen.

            https://imgur.com/e1gSu4b

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          @elinor: According to this genealogy website, the Kang last name is of Chinese origin and could be spelled in 5 ways including one where it has also been recorded as “Jiang” and both characters mean ginger. I know her last name is “Jang” but maybe he is just having a silly word play encouraging/forewarning her to go for broke the next day.

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            @attiton: I heard it in identical intonation too. Could be a slang term for bark but I don’t know and can’t find any info on what “kang” could also mean besides “river”. Above my pay grade!

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            @dncingemma Oh, thank you for confirming my sense experience!! Sometimes it just seems like I pulling things out of the air—but that really did sound like the same syllable to me, potentially/probably meaning the same thing.

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    Last one from me, folks. It’s Fall where I am now and the trees look like this…all I’m missing is my Woo Do-hwan. Do you know where I can get me one of them??

    @dncingemma @hopefulromantic @seeker @elinor

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      I am sure the Japanese are perfecting the life-like dolls so at least?🥰

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      BUT THE SCENE WHERE HE MAKES HER CRY AND THEN IS ALL LIKE “OH SHIT OH SHIT OH SHIT” and gives her his handkerchief?

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        Well, it’s funny you should mention that scene. I had made a gif of that, but I didn’t post it because, well, I felt I had sprayed images all over this post enough. However, your comment has me intrigued. I find it interesting that the clip I had made I focused on the conclusion…I wonder, if you’d been in charge @sicarius, if this gif would have been longer, keeping in more of what came before?

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          Hi I am Sick I have NO mental engergy but this is a great little example of one of big the things I like about them and them as a ship, cos he’s constantly teasing her and she’s constantly reacting and bickering back, but that is just surface level stuff; for all that, there’s constant underlying serious moments too, and genuine attraction and affection.

          I love the drinking scene later too, cos she’s older than him (character wise), so his deferment to her when pouring the drink as part of his apology and them making up is funny, but also apt.

          Can you remind me if you’ve passed the episode where he gets into a dumb dramatic car accident and she’s holding his head and then later she has his blood all over her and he gets concerned??? Cos… 🤌
          The crumbs, they never cease to serve

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            Yeah, and she’s all, “It’s YOUR blood, you ASS” 😉

            Well, stay tuned for this Sunday’s installment. For once, I’m actually ahead of schedule watching this show because so many of the other dramas I’ve been live-watching are FINALLY OVER. I really do need to get over this masochist-completist syndrome (but never will–mainly so that I get to complain about it forever this way).

            Anyway, my point is, there will be a selection of good Min-Hari ship clips. Also, the hyung-namdongsaeng relationship is starting–it’s about fucking time–and Yoo Ji-tae is getting some glamour shots of his own (also about time).

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            As a once upon a time masochist completist… can I just say that I’m rooting for your recovery of this dreaded syndrome.
            May it take less than the equivalent of a 2019 to the Knee for Me, for your conversion.
            Now I’m JUST a masochist.

            On the other hand, I’ll be rooting for it to happen AFTER you finish this show in particular 🤣🤣🤣

            I’m scheduling it in as we speak! And yes I was looking at your comments regarding the Hyung-Dongsaeng thing and going “oh JUST YOU wait” hahah

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    And, we should mention the the gardening head-evildoer’s saturi at least once. Doesn’t sound like a Busan accent but it is quite melodic.

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    This drama was so good.

    Why the snake actress is in there, it made more difficult to watch it now!

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    OK OK @sicarius elicited two final (secret) images from me. One, above, an animated gif of the hanky scene. But here, is this absolutely GLORIOUS semi-hero shot from the end of episode 9. I had my finger poised over the “print screen” button like a Jeopardy contestant on their buzzer waiting for this perfect screengrab. I didn’t take the shot any of the easier ways, because I kinda wanted to win the hunt. I’m weird and almost certainly untrustworthy.

    @hopefulromantic @elinor @seeker @dncingemma

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      I do that with screengrabs ALL the time, not even a joke, when there’s a show I know I will be hunting shots for, I often end up just sitting there with my keyboard (it’s bluetooth and I watch on PC), fingers hovering, all show.

      Points removed for when I’m too busy doing that to get immersed in the show however. Being weird and untrustworthy is not always a win. 🤣

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        @attiton and @sicarius Do you screengrab Viki and Netflix? If you do, how do you do it? Is there any special app (or screengrab is the app??) for that? Because I can’t do screenshots the usual way, it always goes all black.

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          For “real” computers, all you need to do is turn of “hardware acceleration” in your browser.

          I don’t think there’s a solution under iOS and I don’t own an Android device, so I don’t know there either. If you find a way to do this on those operating systems, though, do let me know. I get asked this question quite a bit.

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            By “real computers”, do you mean a Windows desktop?

            I don’t have any Windows device, and haven’t worked out if there’s a way for iOS or Android devices, so I just use my phone to capture the tablet screen 😅.

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            @claire2009 Not just Windows, MacOS too (but not iOS–to my knowledge).

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            @attiton Thanks a lot.
            I got this from google
            “Safari (Mac Only) – As of macOS Catalina (version 10.15), Hardware acceleration is automatically enabled, and there is no way turn this on and off.”

            But I could turn it off on Opera and managed to get a screenshot. So I can use Opera for that.

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            @claire2009 I use the FireShot extension for Chrome on my Macbook to get Netflix or Viki screengrabs. It’s a little fiddly to get them without the progress bar/title overlays, but it seems to work fine.

            I can’t remember how I did a screen recording for the one and only time I made a gif – I must have gone to a darkside site, because on Netflix I just get a black screen and trying it on Viki it made the screen go black and I had to sign out, clear the cache, AND restart my laptop to be able to stream again. 😬

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          Uhm… When I do occasionally use Netflix, I only use Firefox which allows you to screenshot on it lol.

          Otherwise, I’m a darksider for lyfe. 🙃🙊

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            @sicarius @elinor Thanks. So screengrabs are possible on Opera, Firefox, Chrome, but not on Safari, on laptops. On tablets and phones, there’s no way to do that, as far as we know.

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    @attiton @dncingemma @Elinor @HopefulRomantic @sicarius

    Thank you all. This is such a fun way to watch. All of you have covered almost all that could be said about these episodes and the “Seon-ha gifs”TM are what enlivens the proceedings.

    What really amazes me is how Min-joon and Ha-ri with just some scenes can have more chemistry than most otps in an entire drama.

    – When she slides into the car so as to not let him drive immediately after he learns that his brother did not crash the plane.

    – When he slides into the seat opposite her in the restaurant, orders the same dishes and asks her to eat more so that she doesn’t get sick.

    – When she “kabedon” hides him from the Taeyang heiress and killer lawyer.

    – When she stands in from of him to hide him from the killer lawyer and he wisecracks “Your small body isn’t enough to hide me”.

    – When she caresses his head and compliments him for being kind to (and not manipulating) Chaebol Tie’s secretary.

    – When he artfully dodges her punch because he knows her “tell” – that she clenches the fist of the other hand before she throws the punch.

    – When she confides in him – the “hanky” scene … and they way he looks at her crying … beautifully screenshot by Seon-ha.

    I totally get the hype for this otp – surely there is enough canon to elevate this from crackship. Maybe I need to spend an hour or four on YT swooning over them. Woot woot!!

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