Beanie level: Rooftop room dweller

It is bonkers that “Good bad mother” got nominated for best screenplay and best drama.
But nice that Lee honee was nominated in the best actress category for “Knight Flower” as well as Lee Jongwon in the best new actor category: https://www.soompi.com/article/1653702wpp/60th-baeksang-arts-awards-announces-nominees

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    Dear Emma, I thought I was the only one thinking that about good bad mother. It really drove me mad as this drama should be erased from the world with its abusive and traumatizing events. The only thing I could get behind was Ra Mi-ran’s nomination because she is a much talented actress but no more.
    Honey Lee nomination made my day and I am rooting for her with all my heart. Also glad for Lee Jong-won, I loved him in the drama.

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      Dear Bunny,
      There was/is definitely more of us who thought that. It was lovely seeing the happy moments of the main leads and the littlies but everything else was awful. And, agreed!

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    It is a work of art and storytelling.
    Positively or negatively theme, that isn’t a yardstick to use to guage what gets nominated what. There are several bad characters in drama history that were nominated and won best character award but their said characters in the drama were the worst of evil. I’m talking about Jung Moon-sung in Haechi and the King in My Dearest.

    As negative as Good Bad Mother was, the question is: Was the writing great as a work of art? Was the drama great overall as a work of art? If it did, I don’t see any issues with the nominations it garnered.

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      This drama wasn’t a work of art in any shape of form deserving of nomination in those categories. If you feel differently, so be it.

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        I actually don’t feel differently. I knew I’d be uncomfortable with it so I didn’t even watch it.

        However, the drama made it through the selections and made multiple nominations. The body of jurists sure understands what makes a work of art, and while we might feel differently about it, they view this things from a different lens entirely. Sometimes this lens converge with ours as viewers. Sometimes it diverges. Here, with Good Bad Mother, it diverged.

        I’m not in any way saying the drama didn’t rub the wrong shoulders or it wasn’t salty. I read the recaps for some parts and I went bonkers myself. And the categories that got nominated again will drive one bonkers cause those who watched it know what they watched and as such it shouldn’t get nominated in this categories. If anyone should get nominated for their roles, it should be the ML and Ahn Eun-jin. Best Drama and Best Screenplay? How…🤯🤯?

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          With all due respect to the selectors, other factors might have affected their selection. Objectively, the screenplay was not coherent, it was full of filler scenes, it fetishised awful parenting and for very little gain and it didn’t allow its main leads to develop their relationship logically after the injury. It wasn’t worthy of being nominated in those categories.

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Do the ghosts become corporeal when they’re in the MS? I might ff at times to survive the sadness but I like the concept & the main actors. The leads are good together & the camera loves both of them.

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    The spectral physics isn’t particularly consistent in this drama. No matter where they are, the ghosts can sit in chairs and use their cell phones, but they can’t eat without magic incense. I’m just letting it all slide…

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      Thanks. I am doing the same but just wondered if I had missed the explanatory bit.

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Something fun I’ve learnt about the Korean language: It is infinitely capable of accommodating new words which are created from the abbreviations and partial fusions of existing words.
A little while ago I realised that “월화드라마” (romanised approximation as “wolhwadeulama”,(pronunciation link: https://korean.dict.naver.com/koendict/#/search?query=월화드라마)
means “Monday-Tuesday drama”. It was created by taking the first syllables of Monday.
“월요일 and Tuesday, “화요일” to create “월화드라마”.

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    I love that, maybe they wanted to differentiate because the day the drama is shown on brings a certain quality expectations or will receive lower ratings just because it is on that day.

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    Ooh, I love this! My favorite Korean language thing I’ve learned recently is that their word for “preyed” as in “the tiger preyed upon the deer” is a mashup of the words for “catch” and “eat”! So it’s literally, “the tiger caught-ate the deer” which is just the best and most logical name for that word of all time.

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      Oh! It is cool. Could you please share it in Hangeul?

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      I meant to also tell you how straightforward but amusing I find the meaning of 물고기 (As you would know: fish but literally water meat). The other word for fish 생선 seems much more dignified, maybe because I don’t know what each syllable might mean.

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        물 is the best combiner-word they have I’m pretty sure! Tear = eye water (눈물), broth = soup water (국물), fish = water meat (물고기) (which I chuckle at more often than not), and I bet there are loads more! I just learned broth recently too, so these combos have been on my mind lately!

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          Ohhh. I recently learnt the word for broth too! I wish we could keep this going but i know we will be here until the cows come home. What a good way to spend our time though!🥰😂. One more then? (목소리). Throat noise is the best, isn’t it? Just hilarious, wonderful and a rhythmically gorgeous word to my ears.

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    월화드라마 “wolhwadeulama” – hooray for Wedding Impossible!

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“Quiet quitting: Why more than half of SK does it”: https://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20240326050493

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    At least they have jobs. Not too far from SK, millions of unemployed Chinese have begun “lying flat”, which seems to be much more profound than Quiet Quitting.

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      Thanks for introducing me to “tang ping” or “lying flat”. It had bypassed me. I read a bit about it and it seems to have started during the pandemic as a rational choice to get by opposing consumerism and materialism. Undoubtedly, the high housing prices and economic downturn among other factors have contributed to its growth. It isn’t good for capitalism but much better for our embattled Earth.

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A translated interview with Son Sukku: https://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20240327050638

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https://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20240317050113

“An overwhelming majority of 93.9 percent of survey respondents also answered that the decline in total birth rates is a “social problem,” with most of the respondents citing the “difficulty in combining work and childcare” as the cause of the decline in birth rates.
Another report, released by the Korean Women’s Development Institute, highlights the significant caregiving burden shouldered by women, even in double-income households, where they spend an average of 11.69 hours per day caring for their children.
According to the report “Study on the Reorganization of Social Care from a Gender Perspective,” this exceeds the 7.76 hours contributed by childcare centers like daycare and kindergartens, the 4.71 hours contributed by fathers, and the 3.87 hours contributed by the child’s grandparents.
The total number of hours put in by the child’s mother for childcare was around 2.5 times more than the number of hours put in by the child’s father, according to results found by the institute after breaking down the parents’ day into 30-minute chunks and analyzing how working parents care for their children before and after work.
The KWDI concluded that the burden of childcare before and after work mostly fell on the mother, as mothers provided 60 to 80 percent of care for children between 6 a.m. and 8 a.m. while fathers put in 10 percent during the same period.
As the workday progressed, the burden of childcare shifted to childcare centers or the child’s grandparents but went back to the child’s mother at the end of the day. As of 6 p.m. on a weekday, the share of childcare was distributed as 55.2 percent for the child’s mother, while only 20.2 percent went to the child’s father.
“The care of infants and young children, regardless of whether they are working or not, is predominantly provided by the child’s mother, clearly indicating gender inequality in the division of childcare,” said KWDI in its report.
“To alleviate the burden of care concentrated on mothers, the working environment must be structured to allow both childcare and work to balance out on each other and a reliable level of public care should also be established.””

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I wish more people would care to ask why this young man died instead of commenting on the relationships of celebs:
https://www.soompi.com/article/1649159wpp/voice-actor-lee-woo-ri-passes-away-at-a

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Korean dramas have long been written and viewed by women, Hwang said over the phone. (In 2018, the country’s Broadcast Writers’ Union estimated that 94.6% of TV screenwriters are women.) But as a result of the “feminist reboot,” she added, women feel solidarity with one another and are more empowered to express their concerns about gender issues, with stories addressing these topics particularly resonating with female audiences”.

Source: https://edition.cnn.com/style/article/korean-dramas-changing-representation-women/index.html

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“In real life, however, South Korea’s women face significant barriers to equality, and have reported issues with sexual harassment, outdated gender stereotypes and other forms of discrimination in male-dominated workplaces. The country ranked 99th out of 146 countries in the World Economic Forum’s 2022 Global Gender Gap Index. OECD data found that South Korean women earn an average of 31.1% less than men (the worst gender wage gap of any OECD country). Feminism, meanwhile, remains an extremely divisive topic”.

Source: https://edition.cnn.com/style/article/korean-dramas-changing-representation-women/index.html

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    I don’t trust MBC, they toyed with our feelings the last time (85 mins).

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      Going by the BTS, they did not even film a kiss or any other scene after that ending. While I may be wrong, I don’t have my hopes up. But other scenes might be enjoyable.

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      They publicised the supposed 85 minutes’ duration but didn’t deliver. A low move.

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Even though the KF final ep is not available as yet, Viki shows that it will only be 72.54 minutes! How dare they cheat us out of the 12 extra minutes we were promised?

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How hilariously basic is this? I hadn’t noticed it at first viewing. It made me laugh.

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    This ‘degree’ is what Jeong presented to the Grand Merchant in “Knight Flower” in case it wasn’t obvious.

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      Thank you for the clarification. I remembered this but couldn’t remember where I saw it. And I think that I tried to stop and enlarge it at the time.

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        I hope you’ve been well. I still fondly remember what you kindly shared about your life and a bit about your son few years ago when I had recently joined DB.

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@indyfan @kiara Lee Jongwon with longer hair.

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I have been rewatching like FLIS with and the sadness and loss that Baekdu feels is so poignantly conveyed by Jang Dongyoon. I had forgotten how sad and bereft he was at the outset. And Jinsoo! He was so nasty to Baekdu in the restaurant scene. My affection for him diminished after watching that scene again.
And, now that I have watched the entire series I can definitely see that Jang Dongyoon lost weight during the filming as he mentioned in this interview: https://mydramalist.com/article/i-ate-until-i-felt-like-throwing-up-jang-dong-yoon-s-talks-about-transforming-into-a-wrestler

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    How interesting. You could definitely see that his neck was much thinner in the last episodes. I thought wow, he’s already going back to his regular weight (and wished I could do that after gaining!)

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      I noticed that too. I suppose actors like him who physically transform so drastically have to start the process of losing the weight during filming. But to his credit, that process didn’t undermine his portrayal. Losing weight is not easy as WE all know.

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        For mortals like us the math never equates. Weight gain – weekend. Weight loss – 1 year.

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          Exactly. Gaining weight is a breeze but shifting it, requires time, low intake of kilojoules and iron-clad discipline.

          As for JDY, I hope he was working with a nutritionist and a trainer both times (to my knowledge) when he lost and gained weight for his roles.

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          ^^ Sigh. Yes that. Pounds pile up by just looking at cake.

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        I answered too fast. Now that I read the article, awwww poor guy had trouble going back down like the rest of us.

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    Yeah. It was kinda obvious in the last episode he had most most of the weight.
    Miss this drama!

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    If you watch My Name is Cupid – which, in fairness, nobody should – you can see him gaining weight during the back half as well.

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      Is it really that bad as I haven’t watched it.

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        The first half is really bad but in a kind of mindless silly way that could be fun if you’re in the mood. But the second half is just flat out bad in a really stupid way.

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          ROFL! I always struggle when someone asks me ‘how was Cupid drama’. I did watch the whole damn thing.

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            I suddenly realised if I finished it I get a bean for 2024 and it is definitely not Bean Worthy.

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            So did I, in the same sort of daze as Moon in the Day. It really was quite bad and I never once considered dropping it. I guess my brain, emotions, and taste needed that kind of break for a while.

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            Guess Cupid does work as some sort of palate cleanser. We all need that kind of break @Elinor

            Off-topic but why is your display name not something showy – as in indicative of your state of mind or dramas.

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            @seeker The Truck of Doom Real Life has hit me and my imagination has been wiped clean as thoroughly as my palate. I was looking at my bare nym yesterday, wondering what to add, and nothing came to mind. I’m watching a few dramas but I don’t feel like any of them own me. I also wish there were more LFIS, so I could hang out in that village café for a little longer, watching Baek-du stumping back and forth muttering to himself. Hmm, maybe I’m in a slump?

            I also realized that if you flip a couple of letters, LFIS becomes LIFS (Love is for Suckers) and now I can’t stop seeing that. 😠

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            @Elinor I hope your RL issues get resolved peaceably… which is of course only a break till the next one knocks on the door. Meanwhile in the lull I hope you get to watch some dramas which inspire you.
            All I can say for LIFS is **Spanish fainting** while mumbling loudly enough to be heard across the street – “Trauma”!!

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    I stuffed up the acronym! LFIS is what I intended to write.

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    @elinor: I empathise with you as I feel I’m in a slump of sorts. I’m under tremendous pressure at work and outside it, and feel sad that I can’t immerse myself as fully as I did in LFIS, enjoy the communal reverie and find these joyful periods of loving a drama so much.

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Wow: what a hateful cesspool some of the comments in this weekend’s Open Thread are. At times, this site attracts bizarrely fixated reactionaries.

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LFIS: I’ll miss you. You made me cry this morning. I wanted more of you and still do. How could you go away so soon?
Ps – No eating whale meat, you dingbat! And, I wished Dushik had ****** him first.

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Korean women who challene their patriarchal and regressive systems deserve karmic hugs and victories:
https://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_national/1126548.html

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