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Lie To Me: Episode 8 Open Thread

This episode in a nutshell (or, as I like to think of it, the weecap): Ah-jung takes care of Ki-joon when he’s sick (food-poisoned by her leftovers). She’s miffed when he doesn’t reply to her text, so Ki-joon admits that he didn’t know how to reply — if he said he was still sick, she’d worry, but if he said he was better, he was afraid she wouldn’t come to see him. Aw. He plays a joke on her by shaking her Coke behind her back, which causes it to explode, leading to a mini-food fight, pounding hearts, and an acknowledgement of their attraction. (Ah-jung: “Is this acting, or is this for real?” Ki-joon: “For real.”)

Alas, K-dramas never allow our happy couple to be happy very long before mucking up the works. Two complicators: Sang-hee and Auntie CEO. Sang-hee gets pissy to see the growing rapport between Ah-jung and Ki-joon, and tells her repeatedly that she’s misreading the situation. He tells his brother he’s really, truly over Yoon-ju and that hyung should be happy with her — his way of pushing his brother away from Ah-jung, whom he’s starting to like.

On the other hand, Auntie CEO steps in get rid of Yoon-ju, despite professing to liking her very much, because everybody in this drama thinks Sang-hee’s a poor, feeble-hearted child incapable of mature reasoning or of handling the disappointment of not getting the girl. DUDE. He may be your baby brother, but he’s still a grown-ass person. Let him deal. So Aunt calls them all together and reveals that Ki-joon and Ah-jung are secretly married. Ki-joon freaks out, chases Yoon-ju out (leaving Ah-jung behind), and reconciles with her. Phew! Boy gets around.

Ah-jung imagines the kissy reunion, is heartbroken and withdraws, blaming the lie on herself and telling the reunited couple that she’s happy for them, then bawls her heart out. And then she goes to So-ran — who has just heard that Ah-jung knows of her marital woes — and cops to the lie. Finally!

Comments: The lie is out — thank god! They’ve gotten about as much mileage out of it as can be reasonably expected, especially since the Chinese investors have now returned home. I actually think there’s a fun drama in here, but the problem is that it’s padded with so much useless filler material that the interesting stuff gets watered down and dragged out, thereby smothering what life the drama does have. (Triple-mixed-metaphor, woo!) It’s too bad that there’s so very little plot to keep the pace moving, and despite my great liking for the leads, there’s only so much dead weight that can be carried by chemistry alone.

I’m curious to see how the story changes after this — and hope that it doesn’t go off into a totally weird direction because the writer’s run out of ideas (I’m thinking I Am Legend, which turned into a different, much more tedious drama halfway through). I’m hopeful that with the lie now out in the open, we’ll finally make some narrative progress…although a part of me is nervous that it’ll just be angst city as the golden couple gets back together.

To be honest, I can’t even tell you what a relief it was to be able to watch Episodes 7 and 8 without the burden of recaps. It helps that this week’s episodes were better than last week’s, which at some points had me banging my head against my desk with frustration. But it’s also freeing to not be stuck having to recap the many boring filler scenes — the parental love triangle, the co-workers, So-ran’s tirades, which used to be fun but which are now getting tiresome, Sang-hee’s hot-and-cold angsting — because we all know that we’re basically just watching this drama for two reasons: Yoon Eun-hye and Kang Ji-hwan.

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WOW

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I said "WOW" to the kiss too. I'm super glad because YEH is a brave kiser. I'm so sick and tired watching Kdrama kissing scene where they just stand there and like a dead cold fish kissing a wall. Of course KJH is awesome too. More kisses please, (KJH & YEH only )

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I concur, plus I'd like to add Jang Geun-suk has been waiting for someone like YEH to pair up swap amylase with. Yeah, that's sharing human saliva peeps. M-mmmmmm~ However, I doubt that may actually happen, YEH x JGS, 'cos YEH is too strong of an actress to pair w/ JGS unless he goes on steroids or something in that freak of nature.

Why did I jump into that? o , 0"

Anyways..................... 'C O L A K I S S' ............... (lingers).

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To nobody in particular.
I never got the hype of Lie to Me.

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yeah...me too

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Haha, I love JGS with all my heart, but I have to agree with you on that one. Although, they both do the intense-emotions-overflowing unwavering stare sooo well. I'd pay to watch them just looking at each other for a while.

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I agree that JGS and YEH wouldn't have the same impact/charisma as YEH and Gong Yoo, YEH and KJH or YEH with a strong male lead.

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they guy noes how to kiss

if your reading YEH this i wouldn't mind a kiss to lol

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Agree. I enjoy watching this drama and the main actors have a real chemistry - as KJH said - good actors.

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lol. and very nice screencap too. thanks jb for the mini recap!

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Please don't stop recapping. It explains a lot and makes me understand things much better.

Also appreciate the links for the individual OST songs.
Do you also have the instrumental version of Lovin' Ice Cream. This song has been stuck in my head now for the past few days. Love it!!!!

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plsssssssssssssssss... drama gods, please don't allow jb and gf to drop this drama, huhuhu...

i really like this even if they resorting to fan service, who wouldn't like the cute!

guys, english softsubs of this drama is available at:
http://www.darksmurfsub.com

direct link to this drama:

http://www.darksmurfsub.com/forum/index.php?/topic/1277-lie-to-me-2011/page__st__580

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Thanks for the links :). My mom is dying to watch it so I got her a new PC.

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you're welcome Kiara and you're wonderful for giving your mom a new PC. :)

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LOL When I saw the 2 of them kiss my first thought was here the Drama God wants girlfriday to keep recapping this show.

BTW, I think Sang Hee wants to reconcile his brother and the girl (whose name I refuse to remember), to make up for his past mistake hence he was mad when he saw Ki Hoon & Ah Jung together, not because of his growing attraction to Ah Jung. Ok maybe 80-20? If anything I don't think his attraction to Ah Jung growing at all.

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Exactly what I was thinking. He wants His Loved One to be happy and feels sorry. To my point of view, he's more trying to protect HJ than he's jalous.

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so true. it's getting so tiring I fast forward through most of the non YEH KJH scenes.

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me too!! I skipped everything. even the younger brother and the restaurant scenes. Only have eyes for KJW and YEH. I don't like the other girl. Don't kiss her. send her back to Tahiti or Timbuktu.

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Yea, right on!! I'm only mostly watching the KJW and YEH scenes!!

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hahahaha me like.

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I especially agree to this comment about the restaurant scenes. Totally does nothing to the plot!

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yesssss,, please send her away!!!!!!!!!

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Hahaha Charm? :D

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me too i only watch YEH KJH scenes.

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I sooooo agree.. I do the same thing too...hahhaha, but still cant help myself to download the raws...Tis is crazy!

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True!
Does anyone else feel this is very much like Kim Sam Soon?
Hope it doesn't follow it much much longer

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Absolutely. I was SO getting the KSS Vibe.

Although I'm not much into the plot, I ABSOLUTELY feel for Ah Jung right now. YEH does those heart wretching scenes so well.

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i was totally thinking the same thing!! woah!

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Wuah I wondered why this feeling was so familiar and everything so predictable. But now that you mention it....

wuah which drama will be adapted in this one next? How about soul switching? Too obvious? Then a trip together to Jeju Island? Or So-ran and Ah-jung stalking? Just get the Chinese Investor back!

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Haha...or ghost possessing someone's body during their sleep to gather tears?

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yeah~ i was thinking about that seems like when samshika meets hee jin in jejudo, and left sam sooni a side with henry noooooooooooooooooo why~~ T-T

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I was totally going to drop this drama but since I've got nothing else I'm back to watching it...and pushing the ff button to Ki Joon scenes:)

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LOL! i do the same thing, i skip watching everyone else and jump right to the couple.. and rewatched the kiss a few more times :)

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Wee cap! Love the name!

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I know. It brought a smile to my face when I read that. Only JB would come up with such a cute name. :)

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Well, it isn't a COMPLETE disaster....IMO it's actually getting a tad more interesting with these two episodes...I'm gonna hold out watching and see if it manages to ruin itself or pick up like it did this week...or maybe I'm in it to see two hot people kissing in every episode.......sighhh nice to be YEH haha

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just watched it. OMG i lahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhve. and i'm getting a little bit sick of sang hee, his hotness notwithstanding.

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Will he EVER get the girl he likes?

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He looks like an anemic little boy, I don't get the "hotness." He dresses terribly too- aka loose crotch pants in every episode. If he and Eun Hye have a love-line my eyes may degenerate.

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hahaha .. i was thinking the same but wondering if it was just me since so many were raving about how hot he is! sorry but i really don't find him that good looking ..

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U.U SO SAD!!

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I kinda love the weecap more cuz we get to the gist of things without boring fillers! I wanna smack Ki Joon for breaking poor Ah Jung's heart, stupid boy.

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true!

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Mee tooo!! I x mind even it is just a weecap!

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ki joon deserves a beating really..he is like a boy who doesn't know exactly what he wants.

And shouldn't he personally say that to ae jung instead making her suffer in front of Yun Ju? Doesn't he even respect her?
I dont know yeah it is just a drama but i get angry..
If i were Ae Jung i would not accept him later on ..
I am anti- Ki joon from now on :)))although i love KJH

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"because we all know that we’re basically just watching this drama for two reasons: Yoon Eun-hye and Kang Ji-hwan."

big word, JB.

that's why i'm actually dreading the second half of this drama. if it'll be angst-central and then last ep of the couple getting together, i'm breaking up with this show. gah...i just want to see YEH and KJH stare/kiss/make-out/etc without the burden of having to watch the side characters...is that too much to ask? i'm so shallow like that. heh.

(seriously, why is everyone else so snooze-worthy in this show? or is it that YEH-KJH are just so electrifying together everything else pales in comparison?)

also, is anyone else confused by how the OTP went from "i-can't-get-my-hands-off-you" to being totally blase about it after their sizzling cola kiss? [Read more]

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""" i just want to see YEH and KJH stare/kiss/make-out/etc"""

100%

If it was in every episode though, I'd feel it getting boring but I could watch their first 2 kisses over & over again.

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btw, forgive me for my ignorance but what is OTP? tnx

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One true pairing

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One True Pairing (???)

I was wondering about that myself.

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Or "only true pairing." I've heard it used in the context that someone has decided that only two certain people should be allowed to be a couple ("pairing"), rejecting all other characters (haha, and sometimes even reality). I.e. In Harry Potter, Hermione and Draco...
There's also OTP in the sense that a show has decided that certain people should end up together, like Ki-Joon and Ah-Jung, instead of Sang-hee and Ah-jung. But I think this meaning isn't used as often.
Hope that helps clarify! :)

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owh? I thought OTP = Official True Pairing ? ^^;;;

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"gah…i just want to see YEH and KJH stare/kiss/make-out/etc without the burden of having to watch the side characters…is that too much to ask? i’m so shallow like that. heh."
In terms of this drama it's perfectly acceptable to be shallow-especially with all the pretty to stare at. In fact, it's pretty much the only way to go about viewing it.

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Ya! I also find the transition from the cola kiss to the car scene very weird.. I am not sure what is the purpose of the car scene because I totally can't feel the love of the two for that scene. It is just awkward...

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yay!! thank you for deciding to do an open thread :D

love the couple - hope they back together!

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waaaaaaaaaaaaw i love this drama so much i wait for it each monday and tuesday i love the actor but in this episode i felt so sorry for ah gong when she discovered that she loves him he go back to his first love.it's so pitiful.

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Weecap for the win. Yay! This means I still don't have to watch the show, but at least still get to know what happens (because I'm still interested in that sense). Whoop whoop!

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time to have more guest writers and enjoy more yourself?

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I don't care the boring filler if we continue to get to see that kind of kiss and that kind of killer smile from KJH!
He looks so perplex as to which one to choose. Makes me wanna go in TV and join the girls' fight for that guy. Poor guy, maybe if we give him more options, it'ld be easier :)

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Thank you Javabeans :)

So much happened in this episode!!! Personnaly, I won't complain that the pace is too slow now, because today's episode felt like the real drama finally began.

Yoon Eun Hye is such a good actress especially when it comes to her crying scenes! I can really feel her pain and her sincerity. In fact, when she cried in her car and at the end, I cried with her too. I think that I even cried more than her lol. This is the first time that I cried while watching this drama and I am now 100% emotionally invested in this drama. I LOVED today’s episode (even though I hated to see Ki Joon and Yoon Joo together.) The Cola kiss left me with no words. It was amaaaazing. Ah Jung’s pain was very relatable. I feel for her. (*I’ll even punch Ki Joon for her ^^*)

I really [Read more]

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I thought I was the only one who was kindve hoping for So Ran and Ah Jung To be friends, atleast for a little, after the lie came out. I really wanna know why Soo Ran is so jealous of Ah Jung, because that is what she really is.

The Ice cream song is just really starting to stick with me too. I call it the YEH effect. She just makes everything stick. heheh

I like the Weecaps Javabeans. I misjudge how effective it could be...sorry!! :) Although I like your recaps much better, I guess I was selfish in thinking that you dont need a break once in a while. Glad you came up with this!

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I am not sure if my interpretation is right about So Ran, but this is what I think… So Ran is so guilty that she stole Ah Jung's crush that she just has to show that she is the happier one. To cover her guilt, she has to be the 'stronger' and 'better', or it would seem she has made the wrong choice to steal the guy and damage the friendship!

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I cried too..... I felt so sad watching her cry and heartbroken.

After AJ left SR's house after she told the truth, I was hoping that SR was gonna run after her and they can hug it out and cry on the street together.

AJ really needs a friend. She doesn't have a solid friend in this drama. She's always going around with other people instead of going to one person when she's feeling sad. First, it was SH. Then KJ and then her officemates (even though they don't know why).

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YEH and KJH really helping this drama..

I wouldn't watch this after ep 4 if they don't have YEH and KJH..

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I just noticed something wrong in your mini recap. Ki Joon DIDN'T KISS Yoon Joo on the beach. He only hugged her. Thank god. Or else, I would've trown something at my laptop lol.

The kissing scene was Ah Jung's dream (you can notice it because the lighting was brighter indicating that it wasn't reality) and also they showed Ah Jung waking up right after KJ and YJ "kiss".

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I did think it was weirdly edited, and unintentionally ambiguous. But it probably was imagined; I've edited the description.

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Well if you notice he didn't quite hug her either...I think his love for that annoying pretty hair, long legs girl isn't as strong as before, he mostly just want to protect her because she's always hurts/ cries/ walking in the park with her shoes off so that her leg got cut but behind him she was completely able to hold her own against Aunty CEO. The girl know her crafts I give her that.

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thanks for the open thread so happy!

i just want to know who's the little boy singing the song in the beggining it sounds like the little boy from speedy scandle who was also in my fair lady with YEH, anybody who can correct me here.

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love the song!!!..new ringtone...hahahah..still thining if i have to chang my secret garden msg tone....hmmmm

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I still have that msg tone, i love it. One day my cellphone rang in my class and my teacher asked what was it. He said: Is it winnie Pooh? I said: Its korean. hehehe

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I cried and cried at the end with AJ (YEH always get me to cry with her).

I don't think KJ kissed YJ at the beach, it was just AJ's dream when she dozed off in her bedroom. Actually KJ did not even hug YJ back.

What about the preview though? The two little kids, I assume one is little KJ and the other is little AJ in school right?

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lol throughout the whole episode, I was just waiting for that blouse she wore in the teaser pic... haha I only watched for the kiss ;)

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Aww, a weecap! I'm glad you're doing at least this, because as tiring as recaps must be I still like to see your general thoughts on the episodes, which is the whole reason I read the recaps anyway, to be honest. If I only wanted a play by play of the entire episode I would just wait a few hours for subs and watch it.

I think I prefer weecaps/open threads, actually, especially for less weighty dramas like this, it gives less of the episode away while getting right down to the stuff that actually matters. Plus, far less work for you as recappers.

I wouldn't say no to it becoming a more regular thing for future series that don't maybe merit the full recap treatment. :)

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Thank you so much for the wee-caps and open thread! I love this idea since you guys don't want to do actual recaps anymore, we still get to hear your insights. =)

I'm glad the beach kiss thing was just imagination. But poor AJ, she's gonna be getting really confused with this all.

I do think that somehow, SoRan and Ahjung are going to become allies. Maybe that will be SoRan's redemption.

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Does anyone know what song was played when he had the flashback of his encounters with GAJ during the Ice-Cream song in Ep 6? And where I can get a free download? Thanks.

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yeah. this week's episodes moved me to officially decide to drop watching this drama.... and miss ripley is too dark for my taste. i am hoping city hunter continues to hold my interest this week :)

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ya bu adma sinir oldum ya pislik herif ya ay unnim nasilda agladi oppa sinir oldum sana ya

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cok haklisin ya! katiliyorum

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I read this open thread...and just watch the kissing part. It was good but hopefully next week, the writer will deliver more as we are halfway there. And yes, I am sooo glad that the lie is out.

The other girl YJ, sad to say, is not believable to be playing the girl who got two brothers smitten for her. She doesn't have any appeal to me at all, even on the screen. Can't eclipse YEH's presence on screen.

And the kiss is awesome. I can just count how many kissing scene on korean drama I saw that I actually am clapping my hands in glee and re watching it so many times...:))) This will be one of them...lol

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thanks for still recaping the most interesting scenes!
smoking hot that picture - I feel like really getting hot just seeing this erotic atmosphere. best dramapicture I've seen so far. heh.

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ooh. i digs this much better. still feeling sorrow for kang ji hwan's choice in drama, but i'm dealing. pass on the yeh though.

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Did anyone else hear the sucking and smacking during the kiss or was it just my degenerate mind?

My heart was pounding stronger than thiers during the Cola Kiss! I loved it!

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Haven't watched it yet but DAYUM if you're right.

Well if you aren't, I guess it still makes sense. They look like they're eating each other in the pics. :P

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Not quite the suck face you are imagining or they'll have to up the rating to soft-porn.

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LMAO

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I DID !!! I watch behind the scene clip on Secret Garden Spoiler page and WOW !!! I am speechless. They cut out some of the sucking in the finale that air but the KISS on the behind the scene was HOT !!! Everyone should see this clip and here is the link

http://www.viki.com/channels/1565-secret-garden/posts/3422-spoilers-for-secret-garden

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Never thought I'd ship EunHye with anybody other than JiHoon but

WOWOWOWOWOW!

Coke Kiss = best drama kiss of 2011

and their chemistry is amazing! I bet it must make their jobs easier whan they have that sizzling chemistry!

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Thanks JB!!!
I'm glad u enjoy this drama..instead being burden for make the recap...u can see now..the show more entertaining n touching since u try not to analyze it......thats the main reason watching drama right?? this episode is DAEBAK..I love the Cola-Kiss..Its HOT...the LIE finaly end...now romance time...I love YEH acting...because when she cried I cried...oh Ah Jung a....fighting!!

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oh lord, who didn't cry along with her?

I was sobbing my eyes out ㅠㅠ

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Is it wrong that as an 18 year old I cannot stop listening to the “Lovin’ Ice Cream" song? haha. it just makes me feel so happy. Btw is that KJW's voice in the song posted by JB? Despite the boring parts I completely love this drama. Ah Kang Ji Hwan <3

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thanks for the open thread... i just hate it when guys cant make up their mind about liking or not liking a girl... but what can we do it's what the writer wants, hehe.. but these 2 are oozing with electrifying chemistry.... kisses are amazing, i will always crave for more.....

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Thanks JB for the Mimi recap! In only watch it for the chemistry between the two main leads, everything else is just boring fillers! I was watching ep 8 raw version and going crazy wondering what's going on! :)

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Great acting combination, yes. It works.

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Yaaay!!! I just want to say THANK YOU so much for posting this weecap. This is the first time I am submitting a comment even though I follow your website religiously. I love how insightful your recaps are and I love that analysis and thought you put into it. I sometimes watch the episode while reading your recap because I want to know if you're fangirling over the same thing or what you (JB/GF) thought of a certain thing. I love this new weecap format for Lie To Me because you are right, there are so much boring stuff to wade through. But I heart YEH...she is just pure charisma and her chemistry with KJH is just pure smex.

although, am I the only one that feels that when KJH is trying to be cute (like during housewarming when he's calling everyone to the table and shakes his hips a litt [Read more]

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Lol I saw that and laughed my head off. It was a little drag-queenish but hot damn he can move em hips.

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*key words* He can move those hips! ^o^

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YES HE CAN!. I want a dance scene with him

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I reserve the Argentine Tango, Samba and Rumba for me thank you.

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LOL. Glad I was not the only one who thinks so!

and YES YES YES to the dance scene...*starts imagining and drooling*

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i think the director just tells all the actors and actresses in this drama to go ahead and have a good time. thats why we get all the out of whack acting like hip shaking. i personally thot the scene where Soran beat the shit out of her hubby was quite good fun hahah. it really does feel like all of them are just having fun acting in this drama.

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Well, he DID do Rocky Horror Picture Show... plus I think a lot of KJH's acting is rooted in theater so movements are slightly more exaggerated (like how he lifts and turns his head first before turning full 95-degrees to walk a certain direction... see the scene where he meets Ah Jung at the cafe after the first near-kiss).

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Thank you so much for the mini recap it was very helpful to understand what is going on.

Thank you very much appreciated.

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Thank you, JB! I am off now to watch the RAW.

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Thanks for the information! I think it's great that you will do recaps of Miss ripley!
I can read the recaps for LTM at another source ^_^ but not MR so I'm glad that you'll do it!!

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HMMMMMMM. okay. I'm not sure what to make of this whole open thread thing. But I don't want javabeans and girlfriday to get overworked. So, I'll go with it.

Does anyone know where I can watch this drama online with English subs?

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DramaCrazy.com
Viki.com
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Thanks for the weecap, JB! It was a good choice to drop a full recap. I actually found myself skimming over the last full recap due to all the filler nonsense Show was/is packing in.

Just watched this ep Raw - I think it kind of says a lot when someone like me who understands only a smattering of Korean could pretty much figure out what was happening. Won't be able to do that for City Hunter, Greatest/Best Love or Miss Ripley - these are where your full recaps are totally appreciated.

I've noticed that there are lots of opinion polls concerning Korean matters. Here's one for LTM: Sang Hee, younger brother extraordinaire, is a Total Dick and is getting "dickier" by the episode! Agree? Disagree?

Mr. Sweet Charming Kind & Funny has taken a turn for the worst. The sympathy [Read more]

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not sure how the 2nd half of this drama would be. But that KOLA kiss is the hottest kiss in Kdrama, hands down!

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The famous director Green Rose PD Kim Soo Ryong took over from episode 7. His specialty is the emotional drama.
He is head director from episode 7, things will change

Assistant PD of Secret Garden director Kwon Hyuk Chan was in charge for ep 1~6 cause his specialty was more on comedy, so now that it's the emotional aspect PD Kim Soo Ryong took over what a big difference, yah! T

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oohhhh but i think i like the comedy between them better than the angsty stuff...... cuz with comedy, there is more romance don't you think?

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I'm happy that PD Kim Soo Ryung took over, because episode 8 was MUCH better. Yoon Eun Hye OWNED this episode. Kudos!

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ahhhhhhh. ....KJ you !$#%@%^%. how could you hurt AJ (just choose her)..and you writer-nim how cruel can you be. AJ first love did no go well..grrrrrrrrrrrrr can you give the girl a break. stupid stupid writer-nim

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Amen.

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You guys are brilliant for coming up with this idea!! Please remember to take good care of yourselves, we have no problem waiting for recaps (or weecaps as the case may be) :)

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that was quick! I thought I was running along...

I agree the reasons why I'm watching and loving this drama is because of Yoon Eun Hye and Kang Ji Hwan! They have amazing chemistry!!!

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thank you so much JB for your great wee cap! Man, I was pouting all morning about what I was going to do without your recaps! Yeah! Happy Day ! Javabean is back!

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Anyone else drawing Samsoon connections? He goes back to his ex, Lea in his lie with our main character broken. But they've already developed feelings for each other!
I'm google to guess hat it will coninue to play out like MNIKSS

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I was thinking My Girl

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I'm with you. Sam Soon did it waaaay better - but that whole 'undeniable chemistry torn apart by ex-lover misplaced by cruel twist of fate' thing is unhappily familiar. Damn tragic ex-lovers.

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As much as I love KJH, his character Kijoon is killing me. HE IS SUCH A FLAKE!!!

Oh my god seriously.

But so true, KJH and YEH = why I am watching this drama still.

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You feel better after dropping the recaps, and I feel better after dropping this drama. It's the circle of life!

Sadly, even my love for Kang Ji Hwan and Yoon Eun Hye couldn't keep me invested in this story... and for that, the blame lies solely with its writer. To be frank, their entire relationship felt forced and unrealistic - like it was catering to fan-service and banking on the actor's chemistry alone, rather than evolving naturally from an actual "plot" (and here, I use that term loosely).

Take Coffee Prince for example. We loved the make-out sessions there because it evolved naturally/believably from the drama's inherent conflicts - it even forced a man to examine his own sexuality, and challenge the very concept of love. THAT'S the beauty of chemistry. It's something that [Read more]

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You just read my mind. I agree with every word. It feels forced.
Thats why the kisses are good but I dont feel excited about them. Its like watching a couple in the street. What you said about The Coffee Prince its true. The kiss, the one in episode 10 (yes, i know it by episode) its good but its better because all the things that are related to kiss.

Im not dropping it yet, my resistance is bigger than I thought. Plus I have Park Hoon and some funny scenes with Kang Ji-hwan

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... Yeah, I might have to rewatch Coffee Prince. (Again.)

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gah, me too. You guys got me all piney for it. I'm making moony cow eyes.

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Nah, you pretty much hit it exactly.

The writing/dialogue for "LTM" absolutely stinks (even worse than "Secret Garden").

I don't see the "chemistry" btwn KJH and YEH b/c who can take their characters' relationship seriously? (Same w/ HB and HJW in "SG".)

The best part, thus far, was the little bit of the relationship that we got to see btwn the 2 brothers - the rest has been a complete waste (which is a pity since there was such high hopes for this drama due to the 2 leads).

"Best Love" has everything this rom-com lacks.

Really, no point in re-capping this dreck.

Now, I really hope YEH picks her next project more wisely (yeah, loyalty's good and all that, but not when it negatively impacts one's career).

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Its true in some ways or in so many ways. I know it is a flawed drama. But can you not over analyze..it is a drama after all. A make believe reality that should not be taken seriously. Plus, give it a chance, they change the director already. Can you at least give it a second chance? The next episodes will see flashbacks that will make us understand more about each character (character building--like what they did with 49 days). That's all ^_^

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I don't think being logical is too much to ask of a drama. And more flashbacks? The writer can't even make the characters' actions in the present make sense; I don't think any amount of flashbacks would help develop these pitiful characters.

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Forgive her, she's still new. She'll probably do better on her next drama.

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That doesn't excuse the CRAPPY writing.

It's not like the premise in "Coffee Prince" or "My Princess" (nevermind "MGIAG") were believable, but the lead characters and their relationships were ibelievable and totally engaging in those rom-coms.

Plus, they were good for a lot of laughs due to the witty/fun dialogue - here, there's no romance or comedy - so that makes for a crappy rom-com.

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I don't think it's a case of over-analyzing; rather, it's an honest attempt to understand why something does or doesn't work.

And for me, the cons far outweighed the pros.

So no, I won't be giving this a second chance. If I couldn't get behind this OTP when they were falling in love - there's no way I'm going to enjoy watching them angst away as they're "tragically" torn apart. The fact that I made it through the first seven episodes is a testament to how much I love and respect these actors... I just can't show the same courtesy to its writer.

But, by all means, continue enjoying the show. I won't hold it against you. ;)

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I thought the same thing... then I realized my american point of view may find it weird, but Korean culture (or at least Kdrama culture) seems to take body functions in stride.

I don't think I've ever seen a character in a Kdrama gag while his buddy is throwing up or sitting on the potty.

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I don't necessarily think it's a cultural thing though - I can see those type of scenes and be unaffected, despite being American.

Then again, there's a *huge* difference between holding someone's hair back while they're throwing up, and asking someone if they wanna swap spit immediately after. And though the potty and fart jokes may run rampant in lots of k-drama's... I have yet to seen the sexy-vomitus-kiss taking the world by storm, lol.

That's gross in any language and culture.

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@ajewell

"Even their near kiss on the bench had me nearly keeling over. All I could think was, “She JUST threw up on you – and you think the mood is right to KISS?!”

for the life of me i can't imagine why anyone would want to kiss someone who just threw up. puke smells bad, puke would definitely taste horrible.

i feel so bad for YEH.

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it should not be 'Lie To Me' it should be 'Through Up And Kiss Me'

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I'm sure they're saving that for the sequel. ;)

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with all the illogical kisses in this drama so far, i feel as if YEH have prostituted herself for the sake of ratings with the writer and the whole production team as her pimps.

if she wants to be taken seriously as an actress she has to choose roles that will challenge her acting ability not her kissing ability.

I love her so much in CP, i consider MFL was a step back and that she would learn a big lesson in choosing roles from that fiasco. But it seems she and whoever are managing her career didn't learn anything from her MFL experience because i see LTM as a giant leap backwards for YEH.

LTM is a total waste of her talent, but i still like her a lot so i will still wish her the best in her future projects.

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If you look at her character, this is a character that has some substance vs. the average K-drama heroine. She is smart and has a good job. She has flaws like every human being, but she is not your average heroin in distress who needs to be saved. While their relationship could be less forced, we can also argue that unlike most K-dramas, they in fact started to date and give each other a chance. By no means I'm in love with this drama, but I think that maybe she read the synopsis and character description and liked it. I don't think actors know the path that the drama is going until they already sing up for the drama.

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"If you look at her character, this is a character that has some substance vs. the average K-drama heroine. She is smart and has a good job."

Hmmm. Don't know if I should laugh or cry when I read this. Okay. I'll just disagree, period.

"She has flaws like every human being, but she is not your average heroin in distress who needs to be saved."

And what do you call what Sanghee has been doing? Just "helping" her out, huh?

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Two things that I care about this drama:

1) kang ji hwan and yoon eun hye

2) the aunt trying to get rid of yoonjoo.

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