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Twenty Again: Episode 15

Just when you think it’s going to be smooth sailing all the way to the finish line, we’re reminded that it’s never truly over until it’s over. And here I was thinking it’d be a cakewalk to our happily-ever-after. I know that pain and suffering builds character and all that, but I’d waste a time-traveling incense stick to get to tomorrow already. Ha Nora, we’re not going to waste our youth the second time around, are we? ARE WE?

 
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EPISODE 15 RECAP

Hyun-seok finally confesses that he likes Nora, and when she starts hiccupping, he smiles and calls her a dummy for not noticing: “I like you. And you like me too.” She’s so shocked that her hiccups just get worse, so Hyun-seok goes looking for water and finds Dong-chul just outside the playground spying on them, ha.

Dong-chul runs to get Nora some water back at the store, then immediately calls Yoon-young to gossip about their friends becoming lovebirds.

Nora’s hiccups seem to settle down, and she uses the moment to gather her wits as Hyun-seok’s confession echoes in her ears. She accuses him of saying ridiculous things and making her hiccup, and asks how long he knew about her divorce.

Hyun-seok says it doesn’t matter, and that he was simply giving her time, but he’s not about to let her run away. She scoffs at the idea that he likes her, and denies that she likes him back. It’s not very convincing, and Hyun-seok just tells her not to back off for some clichéd reason like being a divorcee with a child.

She insists on denying that she has any feelings for him, and says he’s full of himself to think so. She runs away before he can argue any further, and waits till she gets a safe distance before letting out the breath she was holding.

Yoon-young calls right away, chirping, “So I heard you and Cha Hyun-seok shot a melo love confession scene just now!” Hee. She declares that she’s already in the car on her way to meet her.

Yoon-young is delightfully enthused about the match, ribbing Nora with direct quotes of the confession via Dong-chul. She thinks it’s great that Nora finally became her own person and has discovered romantic feelings for the first time. Nora confesses that that’s what she likes—the racing heartbeat, the flutter, the constant thoughts, and discovering what it is to like someone.

Despite Yoon-young’s advice that she should just enjoy said feelings, Nora says that it can’t go anywhere, so she can’t let herself do that. Yoon-young argues that they’re both single, but Nora says her focus should be on what to do with her future, moving to a new place, and finding a job.

Nora says that even the children’s theater job was Hyun-seok’s doing, and that he has a protective complex when it comes to her. Yoon-young asks if Nora’s the one with an inferiority complex, but Nora counters that it’s simply acceptance of reality.

Both Hyun-seok and Nora toss and turn in bed all night, then in the morning Hyun-seok shows up outside her house wearing a distractingly pretty blue coat, and texts her to come out. He greets her as “Friend” and then notices that she didn’t sleep all night either.

He tells her that he stayed up all night thinking about it, and he can’t accept that she doesn’t like him: “Why do I get the feeling you’re lying to me?” She denies it again and says he’s just a friend to her, so then he tells her to prove it. Pfft, that’s not how it works, buddy.

He says he never forgot her for twenty years, so the least she could do as a friend is to help him get over her by proving that she doesn’t like him. I don’t know who’s dumber in this scenario—Hyun-seok for coming up with this plan thinking it makes sense, or Nora for going along with it.

He says he’s going to do all the things he wanted to do with her, and all she has to do is prove she doesn’t like him. He prods her by teasing that if she doesn’t have the confidence to do it, she could just acknowledge her feelings now. It works like a charm, and she’s in just to prove him wrong.

They pick up sandwiches for a morning walk through the park, and at first Nora stays a good three feet away from him at all times. That is, until a convenient bicyclist comes by, giving Hyun-seok an excuse to pull Nora in for a hug. I love that he’s just enjoying her startled reactions now.

They eat breakfast and drive to campus, and Hyun-seok suddenly leans in close, making Nora throw her hands up to block what she thinks is an incoming kiss. He says she’s overreacting and unbuckles her seatbelt, making sure to get all up in her personal space while he does it.

Nora goes with Seung-hyun to the financial aid office to find out about getting student loans, then she sits in her TOEIC class with a faraway look in her eye as they take a listening test.

Hyun-seok is waiting for her outside of class, and she asks if they’re going somewhere else to prove that she doesn’t like him. This time he says she’s full of herself for assuming that he does nothing but think of her all day. Really, is she wrong though?

He needs her for work to go scout potential theaters for their production, and happily introduces her to the theater manager as the woman he likes. That earns him a scowl, and he adds that she doesn’t like him very much.

Then he takes her to the park, and she accuses him of recycling her classmate Danny’s date ideas. Hyun-seok wants to lie around and read manhwas together, emphasis on the lying down, and at first she’s uncomfortable with the idea, but soon gets absorbed in her reading.

Hyun-seok uses any excuse to get close to her, and when she starts laughing, he decides to read her book together and sidles up to her with his face hovering right next to hers. She can’t really focus on the manhwa anymore, and who could blame her. Then once he’s made her flustered enough with that, he uses her back as a pillow.

Next, he wants to ride the subway together, and moves from the seat next to her to the one across the aisle. She can feel him staring at her the whole time, and decides that she’ll join him in the staring contest just to prove that she’s not affected by him at all. Yup, they’re basically grade-schoolers.

He takes her home at night, and Min-soo happens to arrive at the same time. Hyun-seok recognizes him from the random drive-by advice he gave to him and his girlfriend on campus, and realizes he’s Nora’s son. He smiles and offers his hand for a shake, as Nora introduces him as her high school friend.

Hyun-seok notices the beer Min-soo’s bringing home, and asks if he hasn’t made up with the girlfriend yet. Min-soo says it’s to drink with Mom, and aw, she looks so happy at that. Hyun-seok leaves them to it, and walks away with a casual request for Min-soo to look upon him favorably in the future (it’s a throwaway comment that you could say in any context when you first meet someone, but we know he means it seriously).

Min-soo and Nora crack open some beers, and she notes that it’s the first time she’s drinking with him. He says he can’t remember why it is that he wanted to become a corporate salaryman, and that he’s never once thought about what he wants to do or how he wants to live.

All he did was study according to what Dad told him to do, and now that he’s stopped to think about it, he can’t picture what his future looks like. It sounds like Mom and Son are struggling with the same things. She tells him not to try and figure it out all at once, but to start thinking about it now.

In the morning, Hyun-seok is outside to pick her up again like clockwork. Nora decides that she’s done proving that she doesn’t like him, which he interprets as her acknowledging her feelings. She gets all worked up as she insists that that’s not-not-NOT it at all.

He points out all the ways she was concerned and uncomfortable around him yesterday, asking if those are platonic friend feelings. She says that there’s bound to be some discomfort between a man and a woman, but he counters that she was never like that with him in high school.

She says that it’s because he confessed that he likes her, which he only reinforces: “I do. I like you a lot.” She tells him to stop saying that, but he asks why he should hold it in when he’s gotten his first chance to say it in twenty years. Yes, let the man say it!

Nora says that his eyes are stopped at twenty years ago, which is why he thinks she’s pretty and sees her that way. He argues that he’s not asking her to get married—he wants to eat together, argue, make up, and spend time together.

She says that friends can do that too, but Hyun-seok declares that friends aren’t enough for him now, and asks why two people who like each other should be friends. Nora counters vehemently that she doesn’t like him back, and he’s not even her style: “I like men with big faces, thick eyelid creases, and no dimples!” Lol.

She puts her foot down and swears she’s not lying, so finally Hyun-seok has no choice but to back off and agree to leave her alone. Hilariously, she looks disappointed the second he gives up, even though she’s the one who just went off on that long rant. He stomps off all hurt and pouty.

Min-soo waits for Hye-mi at school, then asks brightly if she wants to go on a trip. She’s surprised but goes along with it, and they have a fun day together riding bikes and being a couple again. But Hye-mi catches on that it feels like a goodbye trip, like he’s doing all the things she’s wanted to do because he knows he can’t when they get back to normal life.

He admits that he can’t give her what she wants, and that he’s finally come to realize that he doesn’t know who he is or what he wants in life. He needs time to figure that out, and knows that he can’t devote time to being the kind of boyfriend she wants.

Hye-mi knows that they’ll just keep having the same fight over and over if they stay together, and agrees that breaking up is for the best. They’ve both matured by leaps and bounds compared to the first breakup, that’s for sure. And they look so much happier without all the pressure they were putting on each other before.

Hyun-seok spots Yi-jin and Woo-chul on campus, and watches curiously as they walk past each other with barely a nod of recognition. He wonders if they broke up, and rethinks Woo-chul’s challenge for them to start a real love triangle with Nora now.

Nora arrives at work and is wowed by Sang-ye all dolled up in a dress, though she’s taken aback to hear that Sang-ye is dressed up because she’s decided to confess her feelings to Hyun-seok. Eeek. Sang-ye asks if Hyun-seok will see her as a woman this way, and Nora says of course he will when she’s so pretty… then looks downcast as he arrives and shows his appreciation for the dress.

To make matters worse, he’s not speaking to Nora per her request to leave her alone, and keeps giving instructions through Sang-ye even though Nora is standing right there. You are so infuriating sometimes.

Sang-ye watches the petty exchange and flashes back to the morning after she’d gotten drunk and spent the night at Nora’s. She confessed to Hyun-seok that day, actually, though it was more like a confession that she was going to put her feelings behind her. He felt bad, and she asked him to set her up with someone to make it up to her. Aw, you’re a good person.

Back in the present, Hyun-seok is lost in thought over whether Woo-chul will continue on at their school. Yi-jin is contemplating that very thing right now, as she holds the incriminating bribery photos of Woo-chul in her hands.

Hyun-seok is so distracted that he doesn’t even notice Nora coming upstairs, and she gets pissy thinking he’s ignoring her. He gives more instructions through Sang-ye before heading out with her, and Sang-ye notes that the two of them always seem like they travel back in time to eighteen when they’re together. I’d argue twelve, but that’s me.

It turns out that Sang-ye is dressed up so that Hyun-seok can introduce her to a friend, and she admits in the car that she’s also using the opportunity to incite some jealousy in Nora. Hyun-seok is aghast to hear that Sang-ye lied to Nora about wanting to confess to him today, thinking it’ll have the opposite effect on her.

Sang-ye says he doesn’t know women very well, and that Nora didn’t seem unconcerned. He perks up immediately.

Nora paces back and forth in the office, Sang-ye’s words just playing over and over again in her head. She pounds her head and tells herself to get it together, but soon she’s pounding her heart in frustration too.

Yoon-young calls wanting to go see Nora’s store so they can get some advice from a consultant friend, but when they get there, the ajusshi asks if they’re the new owners. Nora calls Woo-chul, who confirms that he sold it. He asks her not to misunderstand and that she can have the apartment instead, which will be a bigger sum when it sells.

He tells her that he’ll likely be transferring schools soon, so she can continue going to Woocheon comfortably. Yoon-young wonders what he’s up to, though Nora isn’t suspicious at all.

Min-soo and Hye-mi stand at the dock, reluctant to get on the boat headed back home and back to real life. But they know it’s the last boat of the day, and go hand-in-hand as they take a step forward and get ready to say goodbye.

Nora runs into Sang-ye at school and asks how things went yesterday, and Sang-ye says it was great and better than she expected. Nora holds it all in and acts happy for her, and Sang-ye worries that she’s not supposed to be THAT good at hiding her feelings.

Woo-chul is terrified when a messenger drops off an envelope with pictures of him paying off the blackmailer. Then he gets a worried call from his friend that there’s a problem with him getting hired at the other school because there’s a rumor that he’s about to be fired.

He sits there for a long while trying to figure out who could’ve plotted this from the start, which makes me think he’s not very smart at all. Finally he realizes it could be Yi-jin, and storms into her office. She doesn’t even bother denying it, and he’s appalled to realize that she did the very same thing to the professor who got fired from Woocheon before him.

He can’t believe she orchestrated the blackmail scheme from the start, though she points out that now he’s the culprit, or so it appears. He argues that he has a contract that incriminates the student, which in turn will incriminate Yi-jin, but she just dares him to find her and go to the police.

He asks what she intends to do with the picture of him, and she says he’ll find out tomorrow. Woo-chul is so distracted as he leaves her office that he barely notices Hyun-seok walking past him and asking if he’s okay.

Hyun-seok walks into Yi-jin’s office, and at first she assumes that Woo-chul has come back and says it’s too late for regret, then drops her teacup when she sees that it’s Hyun-seok instead. He’s here to tell her that he won’t be returning next semester to teach, and is a little surprised when she doesn’t try to talk him out of it.

Sang-ye tells him about the Professor K rumor that’s spreading across campus among the students, and the possibility that Woo-chul is K. Hyun-seok seems to catch on and asks her to look up that bribery case from before the semester started.

Then Yoon-young calls, asking Hyun-seok to look into the store that Woo-chul suddenly sold without warning. Nora doesn’t think much of it, but Yoon-young can’t trust Woo-chul and wants to know what’s going on. So Hyun-seok makes an emergency call to Soon-nam and Seung-hyun, and says he has a job for them.

Woo-chul grows increasingly terrified while waiting to find out what will happen tomorrow, and seems completely at a loss for the first time. Meanwhile, Hyun-seok goes to see Yi-jin again, and shares his theory that she’s the one behind the first professor’s firing.

She seems confident that he can’t prove it, while Hyun-seok figures that he doesn’t really have to prove it—he’ll just go to the student website and share what he knows about her affair with Woo-chul.

He asks her not to let Nora and Min-soo get hurt in her attempt to get revenge, and reminds her that the son of the man she once loved goes to school here. He asks what she gains from it anyway, and says that this isn’t anger over an innocent love betrayed. He says she’s the least innocent of them all, and the one who lost the least.

He warns her to remove all the rumors before Nora or Min-soo see, or else he’ll start blabbing about her affair. He reminds her that she loved Woo-chul once, and asks how much satisfaction she thinks she’ll have by getting revenge—a day’s worth?

Nora calls the children’s theater to quit her new job before she even starts it. She thinks about what Sang-ye said, about things going well with Hyun-seok, and lets out a long sigh. Then her realtor calls to say that the house has sold.

Yi-jin imagines meeting Woo-chul for a lunch date, and happily holding hands as they walk across campus together. She cries as she admits that that’s all she really wanted. Woo-chul is tearing his hair out waiting for the other shoe to drop, when finally Yi-jin calls to meet.

She hits him with an envelope over and over, crying that he should’ve just said he was sorry from the start instead of driving her to this. She plops the envelope down in defeat, and he’s shocked to find the contract for his store inside. She’s the one who bought it, of course.

Woo-chul goes to Hyun-seok to ask what his motives are for meddling in his affairs, and why on earth he’d save Woo-chul when they’re enemies. Hyun-seok says it wasn’t about Woo-chul—he did it because Min-soo would be hurt if something happened to him, and then Nora would be hurt in turn.

He did it for Nora, and asks Woo-chul to live well so that Nora can live comfortably from now on. Having Hyun-seok put his own wife and son before everything seems to break Woo-chul a little, and he walks for a long while.

When Woo-chul lets himself into their old home, he’s unshaven and unkempt, maybe for the first time ever. Nora asks what he’s doing here and then notices his appearance, and Woo-chul sighs that it’s because he lost to Hyun-seok, who saved him like the awesome bastard that he is.

Hyun-seok smiles to see the posts about Woo-chul deleted from the student forums, and is surprised when Nora drops by first thing in the morning. She says she heard that he saved Woo-chul, and asks why he didn’t tell her when it concerned her ex-husband.

He says that he just did what he could for her and Min-soo and didn’t want her getting hurt, and she knows, but she says that she’s having a hard time. Nora: “Thank you. Thank you. Since seeing you again, I’ve said ‘Thank you’ many times. Because I have nothing else to say but ‘Thank you’… and that’s really hard on me.”

He asks why and swears that’s not why he did those things—he didn’t want her feeling indebted to him and didn’t do those things wanting to show her. Nora says in a shaky voice that he feels like the person Grandma left in her life to take the place of her father who died and her mother who left her.

He wonders what she’s trying to say, and Nora finally says, “Let me go.” She tells him that it’s too hard for her when he’s next to her and looking at her, and he asks if it’s really that hard for her to be brave. She struggles to hold back tears as she says that she’d like it if he weren’t by her side. Aw, nooooo.

He looks heartbroken as she walks away, and after a long time spent brooding, he calls as Nora is finishing the last of her cleanup before moving out. They meet for coffee and he asks if it’s time that she needs, and if she doesn’t need him. She says no to both.

He tells her that he doesn’t want to stay beside her because of first love feelings: “I love the twenty-years-later you, right now.” He says there’s no reason—he just watched her change and ended up feeling this way.

He knows what she’s afraid of, and says that he can’t close that gap between them himself—she has to be the one to do that, and she’s not willing to. Nora says that she wants to live alone, without anyone else.

Hyun-seok reminds her that nothing’s forever, and says it’s time he cleaned up his feelings and moved on. He decides he can’t be hung up on his first love forever, and finally says it’s over. He notes that they lived their first love on a twenty-year time lag, and tries to make light of the fact that everyone says first loves aren’t meant to be.

She thanks him one last time, and he tells her to live well before getting up and walking away. Nooooo, don’t gooooooo! Nora holds back her tears as he leaves. Then later, she goes to the university’s administration office to hand in her paperwork to drop out of school. What, double noooooooo!

 
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Augh, I’m annoyed at Nora today. I mean, I love her and want her to get what she wants, but I’m frustrated because today we’re left out of the loop and not privy to her thought process as she pushes Hyun-seok away. Is she being a Noble Idiot? Is she being a plain coward? Is she suffering from an inferiority complex? Or does she actually want Hyun-seok to forget her and move on? I’m with Hyun-seok on this—I think she’s lying—but at a certain point he has to accept her words at face value and leave her if that’s what she’s asking for. I just want to know what she’s thinking, because clearly her feelings are real but her decision is the opposite.

My understanding is that she feels overwhelmingly grateful towards Hyun-seok, to the point that it leaves her feeling burdened and indebted to him, and dependent in a way that she doesn’t know how to process. It’s the kind of love and care that she might accept from Grandma because she’s family—unconditional, selfless—but from him, it makes her feel even more inadequate and guilty, like she’s leeching off of him to live her life. If what she really truly wants is to stand on her own two feet, then I don’t blame her for needing some space from Hyun-seok. An independent, self-sufficient life is what I want for her too, and frankly he is a bit overbearing with his thoughtfulness. It’s all well-intentioned, sweet, helpful acts of love, but he also does act like he knows what’s best for her without ever consulting her on the matter, which has always bugged me.

But I find her solution to be really extreme if that’s the case, because there’s such a thing as a happy medium where you ask for space or tell him to stop thinking he knows best and making decisions without her. I’d just bonk him on the head and say, “Stop with the fairy godmother crap!” Because in life, she wants a partner, not a fixer. Right now I just think she’s acting out of fear, and assuming that she doesn’t get to have a second chance at love or a real future with him. And to top it all off, I’m pretty sure she’s being the Noble Idiot by letting him be happy with Sang-ye, not knowing just how heartbroken he’ll be without her. I’m just frustrated because I pretty much agree with her needing to take some time on her own to figure things out without Hyun-seok fixing her life all the time, but I don’t like the method because she’s choosing to swallow her feelings and endure silently. Boo to enduring silently!

I hate where we leave things by the end of the episode, with Nora dropping out of school too. It seems like she spends the whole episode embracing what she calls reality, because in her mind, college and Hyun-seok are lumped into one giant Dream Big Dreams category. They seem to represent a chance to relive her forgotten youth, but to Nora that’s as far as she can see it going. They have no place in the real world for her. It’s sad, because I’m sure we’re all screaming at her, Dreams can come truuuuuuue sometimes! But if she doesn’t believe it, then she’ll never take that leap.

Hyun-seok is right in that she has to be the one to take that step because he can’t do it for her. No matter how ludicrous his prove-that-you-don’t-like-me attempt at courtship was, even he knows at the end of the day that she has to meet him halfway. I just hope he doesn’t actually succeed at moving on, because once Nora stands on her own and figures out the life she wants to live, she’ll surely regret letting him go. But hey, I guess by then she could be the one to chase after him and declare her love from the rooftops until he caves. I mean, he loved her for twenty years. What’s twenty more?

…Right? Someone tell me I’m right before I have a nervous breakdown! Today is going to be the longest day ever.

 
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*cries*

I am very conflicted right now.

Plus, I am not ready for the last episode. Not ready to say goodbye to this series….noooooo

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It was a dropout form? I thought it was a student loan application. Someone shoudl really include context on korean text scenes.

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The flashback of her entering, contrasted with the one of her leaving Woocheon wistfully, made me realize that she was leaving university.

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... Or she was retiring for a time. In my University at undergraduate, you could retire a whole trimester, no questions asked. But you could only retire (or not enroll) three trimesters in a row or else you could loss your place in the University.

Probably she just retired for a little while, she will return later and not find him (which will triger her unrest so she will go to pursue him ;) ).

Anyway this is a show about much needed self-empowering, second chances, equal opportunities and gender equality. We already got a happy ending in these fronts (No-Ra's stubborness and bad decisions are all self-inflicted, so it goes out in a tangent over the central themes), the rest -and tomorrow- is just fanservice ;) .

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as I knew, students can retire or taken a break in college after they complete at least 1 year, so freshman/1year student can't do it.

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Er.....I want him to empower himself to just kiss her already....?

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I also thought it was the student loan application. To me, it looked like the confirmation that she is now living and making things by herself, and this is why they ended the episode with her walking alone....but it could be the dropout form I guess...

Anyway, I'm dying to watch the episode tomorrow. I was so mad that NoRa sent HyunSuk away that I am not sure I want them together anymore, so so frustrated now!!
Ok, I want them together, and I hope in the last episode they make up for all the stress they are causing us today XDD

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I have no idea what I will do with myself once this drama is over

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Personally I have a pile of books besides me (starting Murakami's Tokyo Blues). I hope tomorrow will give us a nice happy ending, but for me it will be a really appreciated fanservice since the central points of the Drama have been resolved satisfactorily.

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Why do we have to say goodbye to a wonderful Show??

Do I have to let Hyuk Seok go?? Huhuhu Ha No Ra! Get a hold of yourself, it's not easy to find that kind of guy or I doubt I can find someone like him in my lifetime.

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Well, technically we have seen Ha No-Ra take some stupid decisions in seconds that she will have a lifetime to repent upon (like shotgun-marrying a random dude). If you see it sunny side-up, then the possibility to make a mistake is also a part (and a risk) of having free will. It is still under the self-empowering, second chances, equal opportunities and gender equality theme, so even if this is a pit, it is also a celebration of freedom.

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ahhhh why??

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Why, you ask.
It's the same writer who wrote 49 Days, with That ending! That alone makes me real nervous. I'm going to wait till after I confirm that everything works out for these ppl at the end, b4 viewing the finale!

I'm ok w Nora taking a step back from romance at this pt, but I don't give a flying F for how Yi Jin set WC up and how that gets resolved w or w/o HS's involvement. It'd have been much better if we get to see more growth for Nora, say in Bounce w Soon Nam; Maybe pick a major, say in art, for she'd make a good illustrator or even webtoon artist. Let the son find more of a direction too, since his parents are divorced, and he is at the crossroad of life. So many things the writer can work with in this ep, and (s)he chooses the stupid Framing job to spend precious time on. Very disappointed. WHY, indeed!

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What? Its the same writer that wrote 49 Days? I dont know about that before. Now Im starting to get worried! I remember how much pissed off I was at the drama's ending. I have invested so much emotions into that drama just to have that ending.
I really hope the writer will not go down that route. I dont want to see Cha Hyunseok and Ha Nora finally be together after another 20 years. No more another 'twenty again', please!

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And the same writer for My Daughter, Seo-Young! Noticed a similarity between Twenty & Seo-young where the writer is seperating the couple over the female leads' desire to be on her own to further discover herself (and questioning while watching both shows, why do ya needa neccessarily break up that) and being persuaded by Lee Sang-yoon's (oh, the coincidence) character that he loves her, wants her to stay etc etc. Writer-nim breaking my heart over Lee Sang-yoon!

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"You now know how it feels to like a person for the first time, ...i realised that this is how it feels to like a person." said the REALISED Nora. so, why?
Why? we all wanted to know, why we felt this way, after a good 14 ep of dreams... why? actually we know why.
actually, i resisted posting anything, resisted reading dramabeans, resisting reading soompi, resisted peeping at ep 16 preview (yeah, its out).....
never ever felt, loved and hated a drama for such a long time.
Drama supposed to make you feel good right? that the reason why people watch Avengers, Hunger Games, Lord of the Rings... it felt right.
But for 20A, its awful, its heart-wrenching, why?
because whosoever this Writer is, i never bothered to remember who wrote which fav drama, she has a
hmmm...... Winter Sonata was my genesis created my belief that love worth dying for (hahaha... that was that), Healer make me "young at heart believe in love, ascended to heaven", 20A bring me back to planet earth. the simplicity, the cruelty, the reality of how it is to love someone, to not ever love someone, to love someone and not having that ONE ever.
because Writernim has this gift and is not a men-pleaser, she/ or he don't write the usual thing to stir us, she may even end it just the way we hate it (boy do i hate 49 Days.).
Why do i started resisting it, because that is what i will be or do, if i am Nora herself. because we keep seeing ourselves in Nora, keep saying HyunSuk in someone we do.... or some of us are actually Yoon Young, standing aside seeing our best buddy becoming Nora. My Mum was a Nora, she went to Heaven without ever seeing her Hyun suk again, she divorced my dad only after we all started working.
yet, again why do we wanted a happy ending so much, especailly in this drama, why? why are we, esp me, why am i so angry with her.... because in real hateful life....
we all become Nora in someway,.. we grew up hurting the ones we started to love. we feared loving someone, after been hurt badly, its always a tango, one step forward 2 or 3 steps backward.
i resisted watching the RAW, after watching LIVE Stream. I resisted watching the SUB, after i conquered my angst and watched RAW. now i pretty much feared to such length, EP 16.
PLEASE don't make me see, something that looks like what happened to people around me again. when it happened in 49 days, and Married Him if you dare...etc.. that's that.... life just goes on after i cursed a couple days... Nora, NOT you and Hyun suk, maybe i was too pampered by Bongsookie and his youngshin and their 20 ep of expectation fulfilled ep after ap, their Writer Song really learnt to please us much. mmm....
i don't think i want a REAL LIFE CRUELTY thing on Nora and HS. it has grow on us, that if Nora and HS can end up like THAT, what is there hope for us, mere earthlings?

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typo error "because whosoever this Writer is, i never bothered to remember who wrote which fav drama, she has a gift in writing something crudely true and painfully ugly."
goosh, don't give me the Winter Sonata weeps again. because Nora is real, like anyone of us, that's why as much as we loved her, we are so angry with her, we are also angry with what we did in the past , which mirrored some of her decision.
when i watched ENG SUB, then i realised why she felt the overwhelming weight of having someone loved you, and protected you, till that length. i don't agreed, seriously don't agreed with her decision, but i know i can see where she comes from... see she needs to find her-Self, build up her strength, she do suddenly has Minsoo to lead, she is like pretty much depending on WC as the one leading MinSoo and nurturing MS mental and emotional growth. now she is suppose to be the support behind him, MS is her sole attention and Care now. just like she was willing to give up everthing to follow for MinSoo. now she has to think of Minsoo, and her Career. to feel so "low" before HS, that even finding a job needs his special arrangement as too overwhelming for her. she started to micro in to herself, too wounded to think that she has become a burden to HS, when she keep looking at Sangye, she couldn't help envy sangye has direction, has ardent longsuffering love for HS, has a decree behind her, has youth, almost all that she was dying to have when she first enrol into College to win back WC... i think she needs to be broken, before she will be build up at ep 16. to let go, and then mourn over what you actually lost, then went to pursuit what you want to gain, and found your dream realised, independent ... but empty.
then, that day cometh, she will remember HS. hopefully, not too late. (like some of us.)

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sorry , i wrote lengthy.
i felt the pain when HS said "i just want to eat together, have coffee, fight, get mad, make up... i just want ot spend time together, it took 20 years for me to have an opportunity to say i like you."
20 years is a length that keep appearing in Korean drama, until we think nothing about it. but for those who experienced the exact "20 yrs" , it is PLAIN CRUELTY.
For this good 20 years, he was exactly living dead, living thinking his 'first love' is not beautiful, as it end without hope, what is hope when the Precious One did not disappearred alone, she is married, PERIOD, hopeless. he lived on, not having any dream, resisted any assistant, and Sangye was a "shadow" that Writer used to show us what kind of life he might be living for 20 years, with someone as kind and "perfect" like Sangye, yet he can resist not falling in. Why live like that? and why must he continue to live like that....
i suddenly felt so much for HS. why should the Writer allow someone like LSY lived so pitifully?
in real life, we do see Real OTP separated for exactly the same reason, incompatibility, cannot "find my-SELF" if i depend on you.... i felt so 'SMALL', you deserve BETTER ONE than me,....
but do i really want to see "CRUEL REAL LIFE" played on screen. ENOUGH of that. Writernim, for once, saved us from reality. give us noonas and ajummahs some hope that "pretty things" may happen to people around us suffering, if we see Nora HS redeems.
sorry, girl friday, i don't mean to rant. but i felt, overwhelmed. sorry, everyone for "these".
with saddness.
and fear for tonight.

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What is the hope for us mere earthlings then?

My god, Mary, this! I'm tearing up... ? I feel you, I do. I think if I was ever in Nora's shoes, I'd do the same too. Reality bites, but for Hyun Seok, it doesn't just bite. He's gotta be crushed and so broken hearted after 20 years!!!

I am angry and I am sad... But I get it. That's why it's more bitter.

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chesen,
here some redemption for you . i was brought back to heaven jsut nite . just some hopes.
saw a clip of OTP kissings... Writernim, don't you EVER EVER Ever dare to make this kissing like a "WC / YJ" kinda day dream.
hope its real... i simply don't know how to copy and paste here. its at soompi... i was desperate like during Healerites era, so i went basically everywhere to search for traces of their EP 16 ENDS.

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http://f.ptcdn.info/488/036/000/nwd5vimobvzPDXegqf2-o.gif

TO all the Noras here, or friends of real Noras in life ..enjoy.

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I'd marry him in a heartbeat just to get my hands on Grandma's Tteok-pokki (떡볶이) store!! Grin

What's there not to love about him?

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The time wasted really bothers me too. I was kind of bored during most of the episode.
I understand Nora's decision; I just don't get why the writer pushed this over to the final episode. It's not like there was a bunch of things happening earlier that this could have not been dealt with before.
About Nora quitting school, I've been thinking for quite some time that she'll open a restaurant or something similar, since there was so much emphasis on her cooking skills. What makes me sad is that the writer kept us out of Nora's decision process.
That said, I'm not expecting to much of the finale; Twenty Again was a delightful ride, but it sure slipped from episode 13 till now.

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I really didn't think it was possible - but these two actually have negative romantic chemistry. Friend chemistry - amazing - but actual romantic chemistry - a vacuum. She actually seems uncomfortable around him, and not in the good way.

This is much more noticeable when watching without the subtitles... and I really like to watch actors this way. Anyway, I still love the idea of these two together. So, hopefully they'll conjure up some magic that isn't just stated or hearthump sound effected in by tomorrow's ep!

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I actually agree. It's off-putting how uncomfortable she acted around him, and not in the cute, timid, shy way - she really did look like she wasn't interested and disliked the physical closeness. It made *me* uncomfortable watching it, and despite my love of Hyun-seok, even I wanted to warn him to back off a bit. And considering how cute they were before, it was a huge let down. Hopefully they can turn it around next week!

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I saw it more as HR being afraid to let HS see how much she cared. She was trying to make him believe she wasn't interested in him despite how he makes her heart flutter, I think CJW did well.in conveying that - I am not interested, and I know she is,

I am glad she is going it alone. I think she needs to stand on her own two feet. Last time she believed a man would take care of her she got WC, so yes she needs to go it alone for a while, but I would not have shut the door completely on HS, but that is just me. This show is funny and really realistic, I too can't wait to see how this all turns out.

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Oh thank goodness other people feel this way, I thought I was the only one who really did not see any "romantic" chemistry between the two.

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:-) There's always someone who feels the same way no matter what it is! Glad to make you feel better!

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I think she would uncomfortable with anyone in these situations because we have to realize that she never has actually dated someone. With Woo-chul, it was bam pregnancy-marriage. There was no real courtship or all the things that Hyun-seok mentions.

Yeah, Hyun-seok maybe violated her personal space a bit more than we would like, but I think he realizes that she has never had these experiences either and wants her to realize that being uncomfortable is the start of dating. No one (almost no one) goes into a relationship perfectly comfortable with the other. There is a learning period where you are getting to know each other's quirks, personality, skinship habits, etc. No Ra goes into a relationship automatically thinking marriage, when Hyun-seok is like "wait a minute, let's just date for a bit and see what happens." He is already completely invested in her, which I think helps him in putting her first but also hinders him in seeing that she isn't capable in investing completely in him because of where she is in life at the moment.

I would almost be okay with a time jump only to see them both meet up as complete human beings. When they met in high school, Hyun Seok was the one who needed to find himself, and now in college, it is No Ra that needs to find herself. Once they meet on an even playing field, the awkwardness I think will naturally melt away and they will be able to start with both of them being comfortable with exploring their relationship.

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I don't hate that Nora asked Hyunseok to let her go because I do think she needs to figure out her life and learn how to go about it alone first. She needs to know that she can stand on her own two feet and not need to rely on someone to survive. But I wish she had just told him to back off a bit and give her space instead of cutting him off completely. She won't ever find anyone like him again :(

I DO hate that she quit school though... School could have helped her with her future... Super sad about that one.

I'm sure they will tie everything in a nice bow and end it perfectly... At least I hope! Please don't pull a 49 days on us!!!!! Ugh!!! I wont be able to take it in this drama!!

Thanks so much for the recap, girlfriday! I agree w your comments and always love reading your thoughts!

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I was with you until "she won't find someone like him again". Full disclosure, I haven't really read all the comments but I'm shocked that so many people think she's making a bad decision by being alone. Did y'all miss the conversation with Min Soo? She's really thinking about who she is and what she wants to be. Can you imagine being 38 and not knowing who you are, what your dreams are or what you want to do with your life? I love k dramas but I'm always troubled by how the main message is that a woman is defined by the man who loves/wants her. I resonate with the sentiment that people felt conflicted by the scenes where HS was pursuing No Ra. Can you imagine saying no to a man and the whole time he's telling you that you don't feel what you feel? So what if she's scared? Wouldn't you be if the world you've lived in for 20 years disappeared!? So kudos to No Ra for listening to herself and doing what she needs to do to be brave and independent.
Obviously it's not that deep cause this is just a show but I'm glad this show took this turn. Maybe instead of finding a man, a happy ending can be finding yourself.

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I don't exactly disagree with you, but the show has gotten us invested in this relationship as well as in No Ra's self-discovery. So, to abandon the first completely in favor of the latter would make the show seem incomplete. I think that the latter definitely should come first and I think some k-dramas do take the easy route of ignoring self-love in favor of romantic love (all the jerky guys who suddenly turn sweet because of the sweet girl but the problems that caused him to be a jerk in the first place are never addressed), but in this case, I think the writer has built the discovery of self-love with the discovery of romantic love side-by-side and (hopefully!) won't abandon one without the other because Bunny123 is right that there isn't anyone quite like Hyun-seok.

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Amen, my sentiments exactly! Loving and finding yourself are crucial in having a successful, loving romantic relationship.

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I'm really nervous guys. I'm not kidding. Drama Gods pls pls don't let the drama end badly..

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Let the rain dances and praying ensue.

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I understand why... but its still difficult to see it. Ha No Ra!!!!!
I just finished watching the episode. Loads of conflicting emotions I am feeling now.
I suppose it all boils down to her need to do things on her own and be her own person. She has spent 20 years with someone who does not value her opinion and she was dependent to her ex-husband. She refuse to be left without a voice or opinion on what she wants to do with her life now that she has the control.

Though HS has her best interest at heart, she would appreciate it better if her opinion was asked on how to resolve her own problems. She was mainly offended with that fact. It brings to mind her complaint on being treated like a child on the previous episode.
If she were to be "comfortable" in a relationship, she wants to feel like an equal and not like an accessory. In that sense, i agree with her decision. Its painful to accept but HS needs to learn to stop treating her with kid's gloves. She wants to experience life and she wants the whole gamut of it.... mistakes and all.

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But Hyun Seok did say during the seat belt scene that he wasn't doing it because Nora can't. My understanding with that is it's just a small gesture that he wants to do for her.

I am not your damsel in distress too and my husband isn't the perfect gentlemen. But he does these simple things like serve me rice at dinner and he gives me the best piece of chicken every time. And these acts don't necessarily demean my being a woman. It's just his way of being sweet. Without intention and without a back thought that I am weak.

So in my opinion, Hyun Seok's ways (which can be overtop at times) can be tapered in time. I just don't know how we will get there though.

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Thinking about your comment, it hit me that maybe that just proves even more that Hyun-seok and No Ra are perfect for each other. It took No Ra 20 years to get the courage to stand up to the jerk Woo-chul, but it took her a few days to stand up to Hyun-seok. She already feels more comfortable and has gained more confidence in herself around Hyun-seok than she ever did with Woo-chul.

I agree that Hyun-seok has to step back from his manipulations no matter how well meaning they are, but hopefully they will both realize what each other actually needs/wants from a relationship.

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Part of getting older is understanding compromise and also being brave enough to grab a great opportunity when you see one.

He was willing to give her time and space and she said no. DUMMY!

She can find her way in the world without the love and support of an awesome man at her side getting in the way of that journey. She should know this at almost 40.

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Also Nora said she didn't like his dimples.
That's just wrong.

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I KNOW, RIGHT?

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I'd take him anyway dimples and all.....is Han Nora blind???!!! ?

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Hello Ms. DramaQueen, how are you?.

She is not blind, she is only free now and wants to keep it this way... for a while.

Some people can feel very frightened when in front of infinite possibilities (she had a predictable and programmed life at the beggining of the show, remember?)... and love is the epitome of infinite possibilites, isn't it? ;) . She is just reducing variables in her life to something she feels she can handle.

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@FGB4877 I agree that it's her choice to live independently for the time being but Nora should have learned after everything that happened to her is that being truly honest and transparent with your feelings and thoughts can go a loooong way. There is no point in denying that she likes him too.

She could have told Hyun Seok that yes she likes him but now is not the time for her. And that she won't ask for him to wait for her to come around because she's still unsure of what she really wants. I wanted her to take control of her life once and for all and that includes facing her feelings head on.

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... and that's part of the beauty, she has reclaimed her agency in every field of her life. Even if this agency only makes her unhappy. To communicate or not communicate is also a decision. I see a very frightened and confused woman whocouldn't live her adolescence since she was raising someone, and that just has reclaimed her freedom. She wants to know herself as an adult and probably she thought the only way to do that was by being alone.

Of course as an observer I feel sad for (and mad at) her since she got rid of someone who has been always by her side. Faithful and loyal friends are very scarce in a lifetime.

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And this is why we know she's hiding her true feelings from Hyun Seok and from herself. Who could honestly say that they hate his dimples??! Plus she herself acknowledged his dimples in a previous episode.

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EXACTLY!! How can one NOT like those dimples! Nora, so pabo-yah!!

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It's said that when a female says "no " ,it means "yes " !

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Could not agree with you more! How could anyone resist those dimples???

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i still like them.. They're as real as two imperfect people working through life the best they can. And I trust them to find their way back to each other (make it happen, drama).

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I shall confess here. I am so annoyed with this episode that I cannot sleepy well last night. I watched it raw and did not understand much of the conversation but I know that Nora rejected Hyun-Seok and quitted school.WHY????? Independence - yes... But not stupid decision please. I am so so affected.

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Oops.. Commenting again since i pressed the wrong rating earlier :(

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Awww.. Guess it doesnt work that way

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I can understand why she is doing it. Being subservient to a man for 20 years must have traumatized her enough to not want to jump into another relationship with a man. Her first priority is to be independent from everyone. It seems like she is just running away right now but I think she is just taking this whole independence thing a bit too far. I am making a prediction right now and we'll probably see a time jump for the last episode since we'll need to see what No Ra makes of herself post divorce.

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Dear Aigooo, this is something deeper but is part of the central theme. I posted in comment 10.1.1.1.1 what I thought of. The more I see it, the rounder and tighter the writing seems to me. Kudos to Writer-nim! :) .

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Omo we Nora wae !! Bit I'm glad for one thing professor HS wud come around again.

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Whyyy, No-ra, whyyy??? :( I'm with Girlfriday I this, because I was expecting chockfull of cute lovey dovey moments between them for the final run. Guess I didn't think about the always annoying noble idiocy breakup-before-the-makeup & happily ever after bit to every kdrama OTP. I suppose I didn't think the writer would go that way, since this wasn't your typical trope filled kdrama. Le sigh.

Most definitely No-ra was not herself today, because she really seemed to attribute her dreams as being unattainable, both in love and life. I was like "noooo!!!" at the ending sequence because it really felt like she was putting both hands up in defeat. Girl, you can't quit without even trying!!!! -.- I get that she'd be scared at the prospect of going into the unknown -- both in starting a relationship (with actual feelings of mutual love!!) and after college (career wise), but it is better to have tried than to have not and regret it for life.

It was so sweet of Sang-ye, despite her one-sided crush of Hyun-seok, to be the bigger person in stepping aside for No-ra (no backstabbing man stealing second lead!)...and even sweeter for her to try and nudge No-ra to own up to her attraction and feelings of Hyun-seok by trying to provoke her jealousy. Of course, we see that it backfired because instead, she's going to play the noble idiot -.- Don't be breaking Hyun-seok's heart again...he's been pining for you for two decades!! :(

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She is definitely the BEST "man" in this show!
Thank goodness for a sane 2nd female lead for a change. How refreshing.

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Refreshing, indeed! And she gets a character arc which is developed and believable, and which ends up making her likable!

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i resisted talking about Sangye.... but now, i applaused her. even when i was finding all kinds of reason to hate her, and gladly grab one when she lied to HS about NR not in. well. i guess, we have all "Sangye's lying" moment in our lives.
but Sangye redeem herself. while her "confession' plot did backfired, as Nora has her jealousy stirred, but she also has her inferiority complex to handle , which is much worst. so Sangye's plot to stir her jealousy worked exactly negatively as HS feared.
but still, i liked her, a "first" for the past KD history,, i never ever liked Love Rival. esp OTP's love rival.
sangye, nice!

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True, we do have that one moment in our lives where we're weak, and in Sang-ye's part I love that she overcame it quickly and efficiently, and even tried to help Hyun-seok in the process.

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The episode was frustrating, but thinking about it, this is plain reality. I just hope the ending tomorrow, will not make me hate the writer. I simply don't like to rant and be disappointed. Arigato for the recap.

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I spent the moments leading up to her saying "I want to be independent and do things on my own" growing more and more frustrated, but when she spoke those words I understood her so deeply.
Ha No Ra basically just left a 20 year abusive and controlling marriage, I can understand the desire to not want to jump back in to that just days after. I also understand the desire to stand on her own two feet and depend on herself when for so long she had possibly felt like she only depended on her ex-husband and we all know and have seen what a pill he is.
I think I get this about Ha Nora because I've been there, I've left that type of relationship and it takes a bit to really find yourself again--plus when a relationship ends you're never the person you were during the relationship.
Still, I am extremely bothered that she would quit school like this? Is it because of the reason she went to school in the first place? I really hope tomorrows episode clears this up.
Also I'm expecting a time skip. Yep, definitely a time skip headed our way. We should go ask the Doctor what to do about all these times skips.
But seriously sad that this is ending and I am so happy that I actually watched the show instead of just reading the recaps for it.

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Yeah, I know everyone is pissed at Nora today, but I do actually understand her.

Twenty years is a long time to be in a marriage, especially one in which she was completely dominated by her husband's wishes and expectations. There's a huge emotional toll to leaving someone whom you have been with twenty years, and I think it is hard to immediately enter another relationship, when you really need time to reflect and recover.

Hyun-Suk is the one for her, and she just needs some time. But she rejected his offer of giving her some space too, and that just broke my heart. She's never going to find someone like him again, this whole drama has been about her being brave and going for what she wants, so the end of ths episode was extremely disappointing. Rejecting Hyun-Sukk I can sort of understand, quitting school I couldn't wrap my head around.:(

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I understand why she tuned down Hyun Suk and stopped going to school. She needs to think. She started school because of her husband, and then stayed in school for herself. However now she realizes she never had a plan for school. Like what she likes, career options, etc. She was just going to school because it was one of the dreams she never got to do. I fully expect her to return to school. (and Hyun Suk)

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Min Soo's breakup made sense - it seems like we're going on the 20 year old's journey of enjoying first love, and then realizing that you need time apart from that love to pursue your own needs and interest.

No Ra's wanting to be apart from Hyun Seok, could be rounding out her own "adulthood" journey - this show has been about enabling her to pursue her own dreams, finding her voice, and enabling her to take control of her life. That she describes Hyun Seok as becoming her protector, and trying not to depend on him, rounds out her arc of becoming independent. It's true, she does not need a protector, and Hyun Seok does need to be told to not do everything for her.

But No Ra, you can be independent AND have your man! And why would she quit school? Is it because it would be too big of a financial burden in her life (what with Min Soo to raise)? There are lots of skills she could pick up in college to apply to her career.

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I'm so glad they broke up for real, and in this particular way.
That's the best thing in this ep for me.

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Me too! I thought at first 'oh crap Min soo went down to her level! Noooooo!' But then it ended well. I was quite happy and proud of the both of the, when they smiled at each other, holding hands and said 'let's go'...

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Last 5 min of Ep 15 was actually the most matured and honest of conversations that have occurred between them. theres a sadness in the off timing, the recognition of each other affections for one another and a necessary closure meant to bring about a healthy new beginning. I must say the writing for the show has been stellar so far...last leg now... keep the faith!

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Why????

I don't understand why she asked him to let her go! He is protective but he was ready to give her time, space. He was putting her and her needs before him. And she can return the favour as well. Didn't she do that for last 20yrs? Putting other's needs before hers.

If loving the wrong person felt so right, imagine how would it feel to be loved by the right person?!

Ha nora, please don't let this man go, in this universe there are so many women who desperately wish for a certain CHA HYUN SEOK in their life, treasure him when you can. Because You Deserve Him!

(i know its a show, but am so pissed off now. Why can't we ff these 24hrs? )

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Maybe that is her reason. I hope she doesn't have any noble idiocy act in her mind.
They have met again after 20yrs, they will meet again because they are two imperfect humans perfect for only each other. I just want them to be together and be happy:)

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Where is the time capsule? I am very confident that they will be together. Don't let me down!

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I know that a lot of people are cursing No Ra right now, but I totally get it. I recently went back to full-time study (financed by my father) after years of employment. I can't even describe what it does to my self esteem. I feel completely useless as a human being and feel so guilty for spending my parent's money.

No Ra has never lived her own life. She was practically imprisoned by Woo Chul for 20 years and now, as a 38 woman, she still can't do a single thing without a 'man'. It's not pride, it's her basic human dignity she wants back. Not being able to do anything by yourself feels incredibly demeaning.

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I understand why she did this but I think it's the timing of it all. Bringing about this realization at the end of the second to last episode is a bit much.

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BTW, who is financing Nora's studies? Is WC doing it cos their son asked him to? Is that why Nora is quitting school?

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NR used the money that her grandma had saved for her college tuition - in a pillow. But, she'd been worried about the future. Therefore, the many part-time jobs.

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Thanks!! I'm not sure how to react. ? I understand No-ra but there are also some stuff I don't get...

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After a really long day at work I was really looking forward to this episode. The last ten minutes pissed me off so much that now I need a palate cleanser.... I need something adorably mindless to watch ASAP

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You'll have to wait till Sassy Go Go on Mon then.
Or else, it's new season of 3 Meals a Day--Fishing Village or Daehan, Minguk, Manse to the rescue.
I depend on them for my weekend K-tv fix. Pure Cuteness overload. That's LOVE.

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I don't think what No-ra is engaging in is noble idiocy at all. Hyun-seok has been as stuck as she has for the past 20 years. He says he's fallen in love with the woman she is now but No-ra doesn't even know who that woman is yet. She has a life to build with decisions to make, she has to find out who this 38 year old woman is, and to become romantically involved with Hyun-seok too soon into the process may doom her to living the same kind of life she's just left. With a considerable nicer man, mind you, but she'll still be attached to a man instead of being her own person. I think Hyun-seok recognizes this when he says it's time for me to declare this 20 year long one-sided first love affair to be over.

And on a completely shallow side note, dishevelled, unshaven and rumpled Woo-chul is very sexy indeed. Also in a previous scene No-ra is investigating the possibility of taking out a student loan so I assumed she was handing in the paper work. It never occurred to me she is dropping out. I hope not!

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My favorite parts of a drama is usually the developing of the main characters leading up to the confession. After last week's episode I thought they couldn't top that one.

But they did.

Throughout the first half of the show everything was so cute and sweet. I should've figured it was all going too well...

Anyway, I'm still reeling from the emotions I got from this episode. My mind computes and makes sense of it, but my heart just squeezes and hurts and is is screaming out NO!!! It can't be. This can't end this way!!! (Even if thematically it does)

Which reminds me, anyone else getting 49 days vibes? (Mind vs. heart, theme vs happy ending). Oh wait IT IS THE SAME WRITER FROM 49 DAYS. NO WONDER.

All the kojimal and the rubix cube and the cleverness that is Hyun Suk tho... anyone else got liar games feels from it?

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i'm just gonna say i love hyun-seok's blue coat. that's it

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It was very stylish.. reminds me of the Beetles for some reason.

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Eeek! I wanted a lovey- dovey candy floss filled episode and I get a confront-your-reality kinda episode instead. I can't help but get disappointed now!

I mean, yeah sure, from a narrative point of view, it seems important that Nora stands on her own two feet without any sort of support. This show was all about self- actualization and I obviously shouldn't find fault when a show is just being true to itself. But this rational argument doesn't really do much for my heart now, does it?!

And "I don't like a man with dimples"-said NO GIRL EVER, in any part of this whole wide world! :/

Even if I let go of my need for fluff and stand by Nora's decision to come to her own without any support, how in hell does leaving college go with any of the scheme of things! What does she plan to do now? Will she just run that store that Woo Chul has given her? And her rejecting Cha Hyun Suk better not be just because she is being a noble idiot for Sang Ye's sake.

I am guessing that Nora will realize that she has been a fool in rejecting Hyun Suk and will be cutely begging him to take her back and everything will be awesome and lovely, but please let it not happen after a time jump! I hate this trope the most in kdramas. The whole I-will-do-my-own-thing-for-an-year(or two)-and-will-come-back-all-awesome-to-find-my-one-true-love trope has been done to death and I hope the amazing writers don't try to fall back on it!

Still, looking forward to the last episode. This is a kdrama after all. They won't keep the last episode 'fluff-free', right?

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I'm just gonna say I love an unkempt Woo Chul. <3 That's it.

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That was the only highlight towards the end of that episode

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Agreed. I was kind of blown away. I think he is one handsome man, but didn't realize he had that in him. He needs to keep that light scruff.

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I get what nora said HS is like father and mother for her and it's common for parents to step out of boundaries and decide what's best for you instead of asking and we can't just say i don't need by my side because we can't find another parent and in this case nora can't find another HS.

She better realize it and chase after him that guy truly deserves a chase.

Sadly i was waiting to give 5 stars but episode only deserve 3 but I'll give 4 for old episodes sake...

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Turn away someone who loves you and you like too to prove you can make it on your own. Other people don't get such nice opportunities, I hope she sees that before this ends. First drama I've watched where I've liked every episode.

Also, what about poor HS. NR, you don't care how he feels?

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And I hope they don't do a time slip.
And that she gets to wear an awesome dress just once.
But it doesn't look good on both fronts:)

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I have had high expectations for rom-com and sweet moments from both Ha No Ra and Cha Hyun Seok on this episode. I'm getting nervous for the last episode though T__T

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Much Thanks GF - so loving the comments and insights :)

Ep 15 already! :( Very torn between wanting to see ep 16 and yet also not wanting this drama to end.

Easily one of the better dramas to come by so far, and so easy a watch too! And ironically this one can easily be extended to ep 20, and I doubt I'd feel it is one episode too many.

(1) Frustrating yes. But I get that she needs to find her own feet first. As directionless as her son, if she ends with HS she will just be living out life as he deems best for her - well meaning supportive though all his intentions.

(2) LOVE the fact observant HS even managed to perform a minor miracle to penetrate that selfish hide of WC's. moving him with his magnanimity to stand up for a love rival, just to protect MS and Nora.

(3) To say she Does Not Like Dimples?!??? :( :( :(

(4) Is it just me or did anyone else think that stare scene in the train was a throwback to Beautiful Days when; i) LBH was in the train with CJW, and ii) the other stare scene when she had to draw him?

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Beautiful days is surely one classic and yes boy that scene was so intense!

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Guys remember Air City(2007)? Lee Sang Yoon was Choi ji woo's cameo first love in it.. but he used her to smuggle drugs.. ;0........ And the actress who plays Yi Jin as well..
His dimples are his best feature!!

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Yi-jin is in NSA agent..yayks...CJW was jailed because of LSY haha

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People are always telling Yi-Jin how smart she is and I'm not sure if we're supposed to just think that everyone is flattering her or if we're supposed to believe she's really actually smart.

One bribery scandal makes that professor look bad, two at the same university in one semester's time makes the university look bad. I can understand her wanting revenge but she needs to work on developing her imagination.

Also, is No-Ra the only one in their high school group that got married?

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Prof Cha's reaction to Nora wanting him to go away - which is - saying he's going to move on, is so realistic. I love the writers for that.

If it was other dramas, than he'll be like, I'll wait for you for all eternity or whatever. But he's not taking that bullshit and is moving on.

:) Even though they are probably gonna get together in the last ep, I'm satisfied with how she wants to be independent, how the tables will be turned and it'll be her turn next ep to fight for Prof Cha while he figures out if he wants to move on or not.

The husband and girl prof affair situation was so ridiculous tho. lol.

It's cool Nora's son is also trying to figure out what he wants to do.

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I have to say I am disappointed. I know we shouldn't be entitled and it's the screenwriters story at the end of the day, so you either like it or gtfo.
But that ending wasn't all the convincing. Like others have said here at her age she should know that she can have her future laid out the way she wants it and have a life partner by her side. He's aware of her needs and won't get in her way if she tells him to stop.
I really hope the last episode doesn't leave a bitter taste in my mouth because I really enjoyed the drama at first.

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I actually... hated this episode. It didn't feel like it came out of the same writer almost. It's like the writer had a bad cold and felt awful while writing this episode...

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Bwahahaha maybe!

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Have you watched 49 Days? Scary how the same writer sprung that ending on us. Some liked it, but it traumatised a whole generation of viewers.

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I watched 49 Days and I remember thinking it could not end any other way. So, is this gonna end the same way? Bring it on writer-nim. It has been helluva ride- this drama. Even this episode is the way I would have behaved if I were Nora. Interesting for me was how the relationship of minsoo and hyemi juxtaposed with Nora and Cha Yung Souk. You have Nora finding herself in the same existential crossroad as her son. She cannot but behave just the way she did here. Quitting school may be problematic though. Yet, it maybe she is finding already that it is not for her. So, 'there is no forever', CHS? well, your first love run a course of 20 years. And you are still single. Surely,... there is?

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merry, and KDADDUCTJCW
i went to soompi to peep... the noonas there were fast.. but i guess i don't kill joy and leak here.... you got to see for yourself. '
but like i always believed, when HS teased NR or ignored her, its always for her goods, when he said the "nothing is forever" is also for her goods. so that she won't carry a "back pack" and guilty conscience and she can "move on" finding herself and gaining muscles, while i do believe even while aching over ep 15 last night, that Oppa Dimple Gazing Eyes will always gazes from afar off secretly, as usual the invisible guardian angel, but this time he will let her grow her own wings by herself... if this is what Nora wants, having waited 20 yrs, what is forever? one who waited 20 yrs, can waits a life span.

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Is this show's way of introducing angst or time jump without needing to?

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I thought the time-jump trend was "so over" by now. Or was that just my wishful thinking?

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I think for once we need a time jump. We need to see how NoRa 2.0 turns out.

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You know what, i am now very worried that this show may end up with an open-ended ending.... T.T It is already the end of episode 15 and they drop us this possible bomb that the 2 may really split ways. The only thing we can hope for is that HNR wakes up from her slumber. I hope Min soo and Yoon Young can guide her in this situation! I hope that she realises that it is not easy for her to have a second chance in love and life. This reminds me of 'She was beautiful' park seo jun's anology about the hair grabbing opportunity hahas.

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But I don't want Nora to fight for Hyun Seok all of a sudden because of external factors like Min Soo and Yoo Young.

I'd want her to come out of it on her own of course because that's what the show has been telling us all drama long. That we should never lose ourselves and we do that by standing up for our own choices.

But if that's wishful thinking, I'm ok if Hyun Seok will still be the reason for her to decide to make the leap of faith. Or maybe even Woo Chul. Because the three of them are part of the inner circle of why Nora turned out like that and why Nora is who she is now.

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Thanks for the recap!!

I don't like Nora's decision...but reading through this recap after watching made me realize she's probably right. She and her son just disentangled themselves from a man. Hyun Seok is wonderful but they both need time. But asking for time on top of all that HyunSeoks done...I can see why she doesn't want to do that.

This is the one time I'm hoping for a time jump to see Nora and Minsoo successful and happy so she can restart with Hyun Seok. Don't let me down dramaland, please!!!

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Me too. I feel bad for Hyun Seok, but Nora's emotions and decisions make 100% sense from her perspective. Even turning down the theatre job.

Between Woo Chul controlling her and Hyun Seok arranging optimal conditions, she's never worked without a net. It's a GOOD thing that she recognizes this, and frankly it's also a good thing that it worries her.

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I was wishing for all that happiness and silliness like we got in the first 12 episodes, but these last 4 have been very honest and real episodes too. I've always appreciated the fact that this drama had a simpler plot and very relatable events. It's so understandable that Nora would be afraid of entering another relationship -- she doesn't want to fall into another hole if it doesn't work out and really, she does need the time to herself and for her son who she just recently started bonding with again. There is a huge fear about falling into a dependent hole again, especially with someone as considerate and thoughtful as Hyunseok.

There are a lot of issues and feelings that need to be worked out. I think a lot of us are upset because there's only one episode left and we're all anxious for a happy ending otherwise, we'd be a lot more understanding xD I'm praying that there will be a fantastic ending for all of us and our Hyunseok-Nora couple because this has been my favorite drama this year so far. I would hate to see a poorly executed ending when it has been so perfectly produced!

Last episode tomorrow! Eeeek! It's been fun, everyone!

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Dear Cha Hyun Seok,

I really feel for you. You unselfishly gave everything you had for a woman for decades.

You were glad to just be able to do things for her. You were glad just to know that whatever you did for her, would make her smile, or make her life a bit easier. You were glad of all that even though she did not know what you've done. And if she did, she appreciated you so much for it.

Then you have that moment of weakness, a moment of selfishness where you didn't just want to be glad, you wanted to be happy. Not just for her, but for yourself, too. You decide to jump in. And then it's when all starts to fall apart. Suddenly, not only have you lost your happiness, you've also lost a person you'd also consider your closest friend.

Again, I really feel for you. This being dramaland, maybe you can still have a happy ending. But in real life, it doesn't always work out that way. So good luck, because I know you'll still continue to wish her happiness despite all that.

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Kurumitsu, your love letter to Hyun suk should be given to Nora, to waken her up a little. so beautifully written, so heart pounding aches to the mellow. yes, in real life it doesn't work that way.
HS: I didn’t want to be with you because you were my first love. I love who you are, 20 years later. I’ve come to love you now.
As we all knew that she was his first love until now, that he has never cease to see her, as the spirited pretty energetic Nora, the Nora that will give her first bite of red bean bun to Grandma, that worthy Nora. But we are all floored to find, as he never ceased to love her till now. He loved her deeper, as he know her now, not wanting to change her and mould her back into that Nora, accepting her Present Nora. While WC faced Nora, the old and the new for a good 20 yrs, and has never ever treasured the spirited old one, nor the submissive kind hearted new one. Hyunsuk, took just few months, and loved this present one to bits, thru and thru, hopelessly. While allowing her to be her-self, yet motivate her to become someone she wants to be, and to find a common Med ground between these two opposite, is not easy, and he did it splendidly. He saw her when she single fisted fight the Prof Molester, against all odd, he allowed her to face the consequences of not follow the norms, yet he secretly help her along, even threatened Prof Molester on her behalf. The most angst portion was none other than having to accept that “she loved WC” faithfully, even while knowing he cheated on her. While couldn’t accept completely her decision to stick on to him, not leaving him (as what he told Yoon young, why she don’t leave him after “seeing everything”). He accept what she wants, including trying to accommodate by working in same project with WC. Returning her phone to her, when WC called 3 times, worrying that the missed calls may resulted in WC giving up making up with her. To him, it’s always, ““… if that’s what Nora wants, that’s what I should do for her as a friend.. I’ll pull out all the stops.” Even if the stops included saying those very words “I sent No Ra to you.” To WC which is most undeserving to hear them. Its completely humiliating to claim defeats before the most despicable WC. And furthered to fake woo YJ to lure YJ away from WC, how much more can a man do for a woman? He did just that all. Accepting her as she is, including “her man”.
Nora, Nora, what make you think, that this man who accept you and “your man” that he thought you loved, will not continue be that silent Rock where you take refuge, that he will just watch from a distance, and allow you to fly autopilot, allowing you to fall and climb up on your own, as long as that is exactly what you want. With just some simple communication, and courage on your part, what make you think this man, will not accept you as you are, having loved not just the Old Nora, but the New. For the one who told WC, “I sent Nora to you”, can’t you just trust him? And for the man who...

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For the one who told WC, “I sent Nora to you”, can’t you just trust him? And for the man who “send himself” to YJ just to distract YJ from WC, how more do you ask from him?

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I am quite surprised that Min Soo and Hye Mi will eventually break up, since I thought this show goes for the 'happy ending' . However, now to think of it, breaking up may be the happy ending for them since neither of them is willing to give in - Hye mi just wants to play and Min Soo wants to focus on his studies.

Since this is a drama on growth, I am hoping for both of them to grow up in their thoughts on university - MS to realise that university and being 20 isn't all about studying and that it is prime time for him to experience different things, while HM to realise that she really can't lead a too carefree life in university as ultimately she has to graduate with decent grades (ok technically this isn't really for me as NUS Singapore has a gradeless first semester for freshies where we can choose to drop any grades we aren't satisfied with, so i am wondering what will the development be if woocheon university implements this policy too hahas. I think HM will keep using this policy as an excuse for not studying!)

Their breakup trip is endearing though. Although they may not have understood each other, they have matured so much in handling of relationships. Indeed, why must breakups always be sad and angsty?

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That last scene "Look at me... look into my eyes" Cha Gyso-nim you broke my heaaaart. I had tears in my eyes when he said that (the last time I cried watching kdrama is when Kim Bong Do got trapped in Joseon). Ha No Ra, neo! In ep 16 you better look him in the eyes, and kiss him first! You must!

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That broke my heart too... ???

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i believe in the magic of "looking into the eyes " too.
remember a scene, not played by OTP, but the Ahjumma in Healer.
it was a powerful convincing moment, when Ahjumma needs to be convinced that she can trust Youngshin to love Bongsookie truly, as she knew only Youngshin can make Bongsookie came out of that Batcave, so all she needs is "i need to see those eyes."
in all KD history, when at moments of trials and doubts and fear, only One Look into the eyes of OTP, can tell what is hidden behind those eyes.
i believed what HS saw behind those eyes, in his assurance that NR does loved him, and all she needs is times, and even much more, to know its herself that he loved, the Nora that she is now, not the Nora she once was, even if HS told her he loved her Now, she needs to find herself, learn to be sure that she is worthy of loving people back, be a strength behind a man, that she will not be a burden to his career or caused any rumours, .... before all these are cleared, she has no confidence to look into his eyes. not that she loves him not. with this, HS saw, and was willing to go. this i believed. so when she can look into his eyes and said she want some solitude times, unlike that first date when she totally has problem looking at him, this confirm looks of her, really breaks him, shattered him. "do you want times, or just don't want me..." poor poor poor HS. why must you live like this in past? and willing to live again?

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This can't be a Korean drama... who ever wipes the food from their own mouths!

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. ^this.

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+1! lol

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kekekekke

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This episode made me sad. I knew I should've waited!

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Yeah, I swore I would wait on Friday yet I woke up this morning and it was either wash dishes or virtual heartbreak. Guess which won.

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