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This Week, My Wife Will Have an Affair: Episode 5

Is it harder to forgive, or to ask for forgiveness? With his perfect world turned upside down, Hyun-woo struggles to deal with the aftermath of discovering his wife’s affair. But for as difficult a time as he’s having, there’s someone else who might be hurting more. Hyun-woo may find it difficult to forgive, but he’ll have to be careful not to hurt others in his quest to avenge his own pain.

 

 
EPISODE 5 RECAP

We rewind to the start of the day, and Soo-yeon is at her in-law’s house, making breakfast and getting Joon-soo ready for school. As she helps her son get dressed, she thinks back to when Hyun-woo had confronted her and Sun-woo in the hotel room. After Hyun-woo left, Sun-woo had received a phone call and departed as well, leaving Soo-yeon alone in the room.

In the present, little Joon-soo brings his mother back to reality when he gets his head stuck in his turtle neck. He asks Soo-yeon if he can go to an art class that one of his friends attends, and she promises to sign him up for it, earning a big smile from her son.

Picking up where we left off last week, Hyun-woo charges into the office where his wife’s lover works. Directed to a conference room, he stands nervously when Sun-woo arrives.

Hyun-woo starts to demand answers from the other man, but he’s interrupted when the lights suddenly cut off, and in trots a long line of employees with party hats and a cake. Heh, apparently it’s Sun-woo’s birthday, and Hyun-woo finds himself surrounded by a crowd of workers all singing to their boss.

Sun-woo uneasily blows out his candles and smiles, while Hyun-woo is relegated to the side of the well-wishers. Stunned and with no other option, Hyun-woo joins in the clapping. To make it even more ridiculous, Hyun-woo is pushed to the front for the most awkward birthday photo ever. (Say “kimchi!”)

Later, Hyun-woo relates the events to Yoon-ki and Joon-young, and both are gobsmacked to hear that he not only stood aside as his wife’s lover had a birthday party, but that he actually took a picture with the man.

Yoon-ki and Joon-young call Hyun-woo crazy, and instruct him to confront Sun-woo again with a fist to the face. Joon-young illustrates the advice with a punch, only for Yoon-ki to correct his form, demonstrating with a punch of his own. Soon, the two are in a full-on pantomime fight, and Hyun-woo, shaking his head at their antics, walks away. Neither notice.

At her work, Soo-yeon tries to get Joon-soo signed up for the art classes he requested. She has to nearly beg one of the other mothers, especially when the woman says that she’d be more inclined to help if Soo-yeon took the time to hang out with the other mothers more often.

Soon after, Soo-yeon receives some more bad news: She’s being taken off a big project that she’s been leading at the request of the client. Oh, it looks like the client is none other than Sun-woo’s company, and he’s the one who requested she be taken off the project.

To make matters worse, during the meeting with her boss, Soo-yeon misses a call from one of the mothers she was trying to contact. Afterward, she stares at the missed call, clearly overwhelmed with everything.

Hyun-woo’s team has found a new couple to interview, and everyone watches a filmed interview with the cuckolded husband. Bo-young suggests opening their program with interviews of the wives who were unfaithful.

When Hyun-woo points out it’d be difficult to find one of those women — let alone to get them to agree to being interviewed — one of the staff members says that there are a number of “infidelity matching apps” that have become available for cheating spouses looking for other adulterers to meet with.

They decide to sign up one of the men to the app service so that they can arrange a meeting with one of the women looking for an affair. When they wonder which of the men looks the most like someone who would use the app, everyone turns to Hyun-woo. Heh. Bo-young snaps his picture and gets to work creating Hyun-woo’s infidelity profile.

Yoon-ki’s secretary/mole ambushes him as soon as he steps out of this office, grinning as she informs him that his wife has signed up for flower arranging classes right here in the neighborhood. Yoon-ki grimaces a smile and grits out how great it will be that his wife can visit his office so easily. Retreating back to his office, he whines that he feels caged in, complaining that he has no joy anymore.

Just then, Yoon-ki sees a woman standing in the corner of his office, her back turned to him. Assuming she’s a client, he jumps up and immediately starts flirting, until he notices that not only is her skin very cold, but the woman is actually floating. He leaps back in horror as the ghost’s pretty face morphs into a grisly mask, eventually screaming himself awake at the desk where he’d dozed off.

Moaning that he hasn’t met with a woman in so long that he’s suffering withdrawal hallucinations, Yoon-ki slowly turns his head, only to realize that he’s surrounded by female ghosts. He huddles on his desk, whimpering. (That was random.)

A thoroughly disgruntled Hyun-woo gets ready for his “affair” with a woman the infidelity app matched him with. He grumbles that he’s the team leader, so why should he have to do this? Joon-young cheerfully replies that he’s too young, though he shuts up at the look his hyung sends him.

The team gives Hyun-woo special glasses with a recorder in the lenses and sends him on his way, promising that the woman they paired him with is young and pretty.

Hyun-woo heads to the café to meet his date, only to find that the woman is definitely a few years older than her profile picture. Hyun-woo nervously sits down, and the enthusiastic philandering woman eagerly sits right next to him, getting very handsy in the process.

Hyun-woo tries to subtly ask a few interview questions, but journalism ethics go out the window when the woman makes a grab for his derrière, exclaiming over how nicely toned it is. Pfft.

Hyun-woo leaps up and desperately whisper/yells into his hidden mic for his team to come to his rescue while his date coos, asking if he wants to head straight to a hotel.

Yoon-ki visits his wife at her flower arranging class, fibbing that he recently developed a pollen allergy to try and dissuade her from taking the classes. Coughing from his “allergies,” Yoon-ki makes for the exit, but he stops on a dime when the stunning instructor walks into the room.

The film crew sniggers as they watch the footage that Hyun-woo got of his “date.” Joon-young earns himself another glare when he argues that if Hyun-woo had just let that woman touch his butt, then they could have gotten more information out of her.

His part done, Hyun-woo gets up to leave, but stops to address the team. Annoyed that the husbands they’ve selected were all cowering and victimized, he tells them to make sure that it doesn’t seem like it’s always the husband’s fault. “These women aren’t cheating because of their husbands. They just like any man besides their husband. Let’s not turn the innocent husbands into sinners.” So much for objectivity.

After Hyun-woo departs, Joon-young proposes the team use the infidelity app one more time to interview someone else, offering himself as the “interviewer.” Bo-young asks if his wife won’t mind him going on a date with another woman, but Joon-young brushes it off, saying that his wife will understand because this is work.

At the flower arranging school, Yoon-ki sneaks in to find the instructor by herself. He introduces himself as Ara’s husband, and asks if he can take a class as well, claiming that he wants to make an arrangement for his wife as a birthday present. The teacher agrees, though Yoon-ki reminds her that it will have to be kept a secret.

Yoon-ki sneaks in the observation that the woman is working so late that it seems like she doesn’t have a husband waiting for her at home. She admits that she’s divorced, and Yoon-ki cheerfully announces that he’ll see her in class.

That night, the teacher heads to her car and finds a registration violation sticker on her car. Before she even has the chance to worry, Yoon-ki arrives around the corner. Being the sweet and helpful man that he is (cough cough), Yoon-ki helps remove the sticker and promises to register the car for her. The woman stares after him, already a little star-struck.

Hyun-woo returns to an empty house that night. As he wanders around the darkened (and messy) apartment, he sees visions of his wife making the bed or cooking his favorite foods, always with a smile for him. The memories fade, and Hyun-woo is left alone again.

Soo-yeon and Joon-soo are still staying with Hyun-woo’s mother. Joon-soo asks his mom about the art classes, and Soo-yeon says she’s trying to enroll him. The observant boy assures her that if it’s too hard, then he doesn’t have to go. He says that Dad told him not to give his mom a hard time, and that it was their job to protect her. His words bring tears to Soo-yeon’s eyes.

Unable to sleep, Hyun-woo searches for a movie to watch, but instead finds a small gift box. He stares at the leather wallet inside and remembers the birthday party that he unintentionally attended for Sun-woo. Coming to the conclusion that his wife must have bought the gift as a birthday present for her lover, Hyun-woo throws the wallet and screams in frustration.

At the office, the team wires Joon-young in preparation for his meeting with a new cheating wife. Bo-young puts the video glasses on for him, and Joon-young leans down right in her face and jokes, “I’m a good-looking man up close, right?” Bo-young agrees, saying that he looks just like one of the guys these adulterous women meet. Well, he was asking for that.

Yoon-ki has yet another planned/serendipitous meeting with the flower arrangement teacher, conveniently arriving just in time to help her with the broken lock on her door.

Newly enraged at finding his wife’s gift for her lover, Hyun-woo waits in the lobby of Sun-woo’s building, his nervous pacing drawing the attention of a security guard. Sun-woo enters the building and immediately spots Hyun-woo waiting for him. Hyun-woo angrily walks towards the other man, fist closed, but the security guard also marches forward. Scared, Hyun-woo settles for bumping against Sun-woo’s shoulder before awkwardly running out of the building.

Soo-yeon receives a text from one of the moms that they made space for Joon-soo in the art class. She happily texts back her thanks to the group thread, but immediately the other women send messages hinting that it’s so hard to pick up their kids every day. Sufficiently guilt-tripped, Soo-yeon reluctantly volunteers to pick up the other children.

Yoon-ki has his first flower arranging class, and the teacher looks completely smitten as Yoon-ki gushes about how his wife means everything to him. His plan plays out beautifully as the teacher asks him, “Do you know what kind of men women are most attracted to? It’s men they want to steal.”

Still playing the faithful husband, Yoon-ki turn away, but silently counts to three and smiles as the teacher pulls him around towards her. The two kiss, and Yoon-ki can add yet another notch to his player’s belt.

Joon-young attends his own interview/date, but sits frozen with nerves and staring at the pretty woman he’s meeting. Bo-young snaps into his earpiece to question the woman and not fall for her, so Joon-young shakes off his shock. The clandestine interview goes well until the woman notes that this must be Joon-young’s first time given all the questions.

When she asks about his own situation, Joon-young freezes again, and Bo-young urges him to make something up. Slowly, Joon-young tells the woman that his wife ran away three days after their honeymoon. The rest of the team moans that the story is too fantastical to believe, but Bo-young seems to wonder if it’s the truth.

Yoon-ki is busy reminiscing about his new conquest when Ara visits his office. She notes the rose smell, and Yoon-ki anxiously hides his lips, which she notices. Ara immediately heads to the arranging class and signs up for additional classes. But when the teacher steps outside, she grins to see Yoon-ki by the door. The two start going at it, just feet away from Ara.

Soo-yeon meets with Sun-woo at his office, both looking miserable and guilty. Soo-yeon gently says that it would have been better if he’d warned her before taking her off the project, but Sun-woo answers that he thought it best if they avoided contact with each other.

Sun-woo tells Soo-yeon that Hyun-woo came to see him, which shocks her. He smiles slightly as he says that Soo-yeon’s husband seems like a good man. He apologizes again for taking her off the project, regretful that things turned out this way.

Hyun-woo thinks about his second failed attempt to confront Sun-woo, sighing heavily as he fails to notice the sideways glances from Bo-young and Joon-young. The two return to watching the footage of Joon-young’s “date,” and Joon-young gloats over how well he did until Bo-young says the story of the runaway wife was too far-fetched.

Looking uncomfortable, Joon-young asks if it couldn’t happen then, to which Bo-young responds that for the wife to run away after three days of marriage, he’d have to have been an idiot, or too in love to see the signs. Ouch.

They’re interrupted when Hyun-woo randomly yells at the ceiling and storms out. Watching his departure, Bo-young guesses that his wife is having an affair. Joon-young chokes and tries to deny it, but Bo-young can tell he’s lying. He asks her to keep it to herself, since Hyun-woo would be uncomfortable if she knew.

Hyun-woo calls Soo-yeon and tells her that he confronted Sun-woo today. When she says she heard, he assumes she’s still meeting with the man. She tries to tell him that she broke it off and asks if they can’t fix the problems between them, but Hyun-woo snaps that she’s the one who cheated, so how can she act like she did nothing wrong? He rages that it isn’t fair that his whole world was turned upside down while both Soo-yeon and Sun-woo can walk around like nothing happened.

Hyun-woo hangs up angrily and then sees that Sun-woo confirmed his facebook friend request. (Why on earth would you confirm your lover’s husband’s friend request?) He starts looking through the man’s pictures and sees all the family shots he posted of his wife and children. Hyun-woo scoffs that a man who loves his family so much would cheat.

Hyun-woo stalks Sun-woo’s house and watches as he arrives home, his loving wife greeting him at the gate. Unable to take it anymore, Hyun-woo calls Sun-woo out to meet him in a nearby park. Finally confronting him alone, Hyun-woo demands to know if the affair really started six months ago. Sun-woo gloomily confirms it. Hyun-woo asks how far they went, and Sun-woo answers that they only slept together once, earning a punch from Hyun-woo.

Sun-woo apologizes again and again, but his calm demeanor angers Hyun-woo further. He yells at the unfairness that though Sun-woo and Soo-yeon are the ones at fault, he’s the only one getting hurt. Sun-woo tries to say that this was all his fault and that Soo-yeon had nothing to do with it, but his familiar use of Hyun-woo’s wife’s name earns him another punch, knocking him to the ground.

Hyun-woo thrusts his phone in Sun-woo’s face. He tells him to call his wife and tell her the truth, or Hyun-woo threatens to run to his house where Sun-woo’s children are sleeping and reveal everything himself.

With no other option, Sun-woo reluctantly calls his wife. As soon as she answers, Hyun-woo grabs the phone and nearly shouts at her, “Your husband is having an affair with my wife. I’ll let you hear the rest from him.” He shoves the phone back at Sun-woo, and the man sadly confirms that it’s true, apologizing to her.

Hyun-woo grabs his phone back and walks away. As he leaves, we hear his new post on the forum: “Everyone, I’ve finally gotten my revenge. I beat up the guy who cheated and let his wife know everything.” All the users immediately comment that he did a good job and cheer him on.

Hyun-woo’s number one fans, Grandma and Ajumma, are sitting outside the closed post office (where they’ve been using the computer). Grandma calls out to a passing young man, beckoning him closer.

They ask to borrow his phone and immediately look up Hyun-woo’s new post, and both are happy to see that he took his revenge. The young man snatches his phone back, and as he hustles off, Ajumma wonders if they should get one of those smartphones so they don’t have to keep traveling to the post office to use the internet.

Hyun-woo trudges home and collapses on his couch, only to find one of his son’s toys shoved between the cushions. He calls Joon-soo, smiling when his son affirms that he misses him, though he doesn’t answer when Joon-soo asks if he misses mom.

The next day, Yoon-ki cleverly dispatches his secretary by hinting that the handsome team member in Hyun-woo’s office is probably in the office alone. She dashes off, and Yoon-ki texts the flower teacher to come over. The teacher leaves the class to go see him, and Ara’s spidey senses lead her to follow, but she fails to catch them in the act since the clever Yoon-ki hid his new mistress under his desk.

The film team goes for a new approach this time, bringing both the husband and cheating wife in to interview together. As Joon-young directs the cameras, Bo-young and Hyun-woo watch the interview.

As husband and wife argue over whether or not the woman really did have an affair, Bo-young notes that there doesn’t seem to be a right answer. “Thinking about it, there seems to be no definite perpetrator or victim. You know, there’s a thing called willful negligence. Even knowing that their marriage will be in danger going on like this, there are many couples that don’t put in effort.” Her words reach Hyun-woo, but he doesn’t seem to agree.

In yet another strange Yoon-ki scene, his new lover showers him in flowers, literally. With a flower clenched between his teeth and smothered in kisses, the man looks like he could die happy.

Soo-yeon’s team member reports the progress on the project with Sun-woo’s company. Afterwards, Soo-yeon overhears the woman telling a coworker that it looked like Sun-woo had gotten into a fight recently.

That night, Hyun-woo walks home, Bo-young’s words echoing in his head. To his surprise, he finds Soo-yeon waiting for him. Still not ready to talk, Hyun-woo ignores his wife, until she asks if he got in a fight with Sun-woo.

Assuming once again that she’s meeting with the man, Hyun-woo mocks her, asking if she rushed to her injured lover’s side. Getting worked up, Hyun-woo reveals that he also told Sun-woo’s wife the truth about her husband, shocking Soo-yeon. She tries to say that this was their problem to solve, but Hyun-woo isn’t having it, yelling that he’s mad at everyone, including the man’s wife for not knowing the truth. So why, he asks, should he consider their feelings?

Holding back her own anger, Soo-yeon asks if he feels better now, and Hyun-woo unrepentantly yells back that he does. Hyun-woo grabs the wallet he found and tosses it at her, saying to give it to Sun-woo if she feels so bad for him, going so far as to taunt her to run away with the man.

Soo-yeon quietly says that the wallet was a present for Hyun-woo, but Hyun-woo just laughs in her face, yelling at her for her meekness. He rants, “How much more are you going to deceive me? Please, both of you stop acting like victims! I’m the one who got destroyed, and I’m the one in pain! I’m the victim, and you guys are the perpetrators!”

Nearly crying, Soo-yeon agrees that she’s the perpetrator. She says she’ll move out of the house, and promises to tell Hyun-woo’s mother the truth. Hyun-woo yells at her for wanting to reveal everything to his mom, who’s had such a hard life, clearly seeing her promise as a threat.

He paces back into the living room, thinking to himself that his wife is now retaliating. His eye catches on the wallet as he thinks, “This week, my wife is fighting back.” Taking a closer look at the wallet, he sees initials printed on it: DHW. Looks like Soo-yeon bought the wallet for Hyun-woo after all.

 
COMMENTS

I’m so glad we got to see Soo-yeon’s perspective this week, because it really painted the affair and its aftermath in a new light. I’m not saying that she was right to cheat, but I can finally understand how it could have happened. I admit that when we saw everything from purely Hyun-woo’s point of view, I was having a hard time being sympathetic to Soo-yeon. I hadn’t realized how thin she was spreading herself, or how overworked she was between her husband, son, and job. Hyun-woo had called her the perfect wife that made his own life so easy, but he’d never considered how much she’d sacrificed of her own life to be perfect for him.

Though, to be fair, while Hyun-woo never asked, it doesn’t look like Soo-yeon ever tried to share her burden. Clearly, Hyun-woo can be overbearing when it comes to his own opinion, but if Soo-yeon doesn’t feel comfortable confiding to her own husband, then there’s something deeply wrong with their relationship. Soo-yeon silently took all the work onto her own shoulders, hiding her growing stress with a smile. It makes sense then that she would be tempted by someone who gave her the attention, affection, and sympathy that she probably didn’t even know she was craving. Again, I’m not saying that she did the right thing, but I can understand.

I don’t mind saying that I was disappointed in Hyun-woo during this episode. I know that his whole world has been flipped around, and I get that he’s in pain and doesn’t know how to deal with it, but he really acted like a big child, only concerned with what he saw as “fair,” and trying to make everyone else hurt like he was hurting. We can see it when he told his staff that these cheating wives had affairs simply because they wanted to, and that their husbands were victimized innocents. Then again in the last scene when Hyun-woo yelled at his wife that she was the perpetrator and thus didn’t deserve to act like a victim. He’s taking such an infantile view of the world, always yelling that he’s right and refusing to see things from another’s perspective.

I can’t say if Hyun-woo’s actions were wrong or right – I’m not sure anyone can – but I found myself shaking my head when he called Sun-woo’s wife to reveal the truth about her husband. Telling the wife may have been the right thing to do, but he did it out of anger. He hurt her because he wanted someone other than himself to be in pain, not because he felt she deserved to know. He was lashing out, and this poor woman had to learn of her husband’s infidelity while she was right next to her sleeping children. Hyun-woo was so busy blaming everyone else and asserting himself as the victim, that he didn’t realize he was becoming the aggressor.

Not only was Hyun-woo blind to his wife’s stress, but apparently he’s missed that his best friend’s wife ran away. Shouldn’t he find it suspicious that he never met with Joon-young’s wife once during the years they were married? Granted, we haven’t gotten the confirmation that Joon-young’s wife really did split after their honeymoon, but given his pained and honest expression, I don’t think it’s too big a leap to conclude that he was telling the truth. I’m both relieved and saddened to find out that Joon-young isn’t truly married, because while it no longer makes him sleazy for being interested in Bo-young, having your wife run out on you less than a week after your marriage isn’t a fate I’d wish on anyone. Hopefully Hyun-woo can put a halt on his personal pity party long enough to see that his friend is hurting too.

The late introduction of Soo-yeon’s perspective was a rather brilliant stroke on the show’s part. We’ve been so busy putting Hyun-woo in the victim’s seat and making Soo-yeon the aggressor, and now it’s apparent that there isn’t a clear cut victim or perpetrator. No black and white, or right and wrong. We’re all just human, doing the best we can with our own flaws. At this point, Hyun-woo has to open his eyes to his own flaws and see the pain he’s causing others on his search to forgive before he does something he’ll need forgiveness for.

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Must say that she has skin as thick as the wall of china for having the audacity of acting offended or angry. She was the one that deceived her lover's wife with his complicity. She was the one that hurt her. He was the one that told her the truth. She absolutely had the right to know, and he should have told her as soon as he learned of this. The sheer *gall* of believing she had the right to continue deceiving the poor woman. Priorities. Hiding the truth to not hurt her is the moral equivalent of the police not prosecuting Bernie Madoff because they didn't want their clients to feel duped. But they were duped. And in that case pain in a good, positive thing, that tells them the truth: that something effed up has happened. By this "lying for her own good" line, we should be happy being human batteries living a lie in the Matrix. Utter idiocy and sheep like thinking. If instead the "feelings" that should have been spared are the ones of the adulterers, they deserve as much considerations as they have shown their spouses and children. That is, none at all.

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Not sure how to interpret the fact that apparently the gift is made into this big deal, when she forgot their marriage anniversary and was ready to cheat on him the day after their anniversary.

In terms of being negletful and taking each other for granted, obviously they are both doing it, it should be pointed out that they *both* forgot about the anniversary, and that he was the one that proposed having some time together as a family, and she was the one that refused him, explicitly choosing to meet her lover in a hotel to have sex.

Not sure with what face she is giving him a gift now.

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This chapter spurred some consideration on her lover. The guy evidently likes to think of himself as a "good person", presenting a facade of respectability (loving husband and dad) over the filth that is his real character. Clearly, he is someone that wants to have it both ways and never wants to suffer a loss or give up something. He claimed to love the ML's wife, his lover, but he didn't give up his wife, choosing instead to deceive her. Now he finds it inconvenient to have his lover, the woman he claims to love, on the same project, so he removes her without even discussing it with her first -note that he does not give up his position and moves out of the project, he gets rid of her and doesn't even discuss it with her in advance-.

And now that the situation has blown up in his face, his "guilty expression" (really looks more like sadness over things not going his way to me) apparently does jack, considering that he does *not* choose to be honest and come clean, but is ready to lie to his wife's face for the rest of their lives (apparently he has no problem looking at himself in the mirror, not sure what to make of the sincerity of his supposed guilt, then). Never in this whole situation does he treat his partners as equal and lets them have a choice in the matter. He fires his lover and as for his wife, he robs her ever of the possibility not only to choose, but even just to know that he had chosen for her, as he does not allow her to know the facts and make an informed decision.

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In light of the fact that last chapter when asked explicitly about the depth of her feelings she didn't say she didn't love her lover, and he said he was in love with her, as well as the fact that she told her husband almost confrontationally that she slept with him and was the one that missed him so much she reached out to him first after their first encounter, it's not exactly an irrational position to believe about the gift. Add to that that, like him, she *did* forget their anniversary (so ever if she remembered the birthday it's hard to know what to make of it, except that frankly, after what she did, I would be ashamed to buy a gift for someone while I was deceiving him, acting as if we were all buddy-buddy).

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Not sure how I am meant to interpret that she remembered his birthday after forgetting their wedding anniversary (and planning to sleep with her lover the day after their anniversary, despite her husband proposing they spend time together to reconnect). Notably, when he asked whether she needed something she smiled and said everything was ok rather than talking about her problems, so I am not sure how he was meant to know that she was not feeling well in the first place. Telepathy?

Also, apparently some of the sheeple in the comments have decided unilaterally that they *both* forgetting about their anniversary, say, means that only he takes his wife for granted (strange claim, since she was the one planning to sleep with her lover the day after, while he was the one that tried to organize some time to spend together or to get her to open up after getting the first inkling that she was not as well as she seemed... deceiving someone for one year, refusing to spend time with them preferring to sleep with her lover, seems like a bit more intentional and "taking things for granted", particularly since she has the splendid example of her lover, a phylanderer that cheats on his wife and the mother of her children with a married woman with kids... much more deserving of her, or them of each other, to be sure).

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Would have loved to see him and the guy's wife ending up together. He would have never betrayed him, and she was faithful even to her phylandering husband. By contrast, their spouses were both ready to cheat with married lovers with children. It seems to me that partner swapping might be the solution here.

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Not exactly sure that beating him up will do anything for his humiliation. Them sleeping together might be more effective, and I would certainly have supported some revenge sex between the two cheated spouses (if the guy is going to cheat on his wife and the mother of his children, turnabout is fair play). Not settling the score, since they did not initiate. But better than beating him up, that shows utter impotence.

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Not sure what the drama is trying to convey with the gift scene. She remembered his birthday? But she forgot their anniversary, so not sure that this is an indication of attentiveness. She planned to sleep with her lover the day after their anniversary, even when her husband wanted them to take time off and rekindle their relationship. Not sure I am seeing any effort to keep him, here, and between the two of them it's a bit insulting that he is the one making an effort to keep their marriage from falling apart (in an "if you broke it, fix it" kind of way... not that anything she could ever do would ever fix this).

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Farcical how she lectures him about his decision to tell her lover's wife the truth, when factually speaking he knows better than anyone (certainly much better than her) what her lover's wife feels and is going through, being in the same position, and he also knows whethere he would have liked to stay ignorant and being lied to -he hates her being ignorante of what is going on-. One thing that his wife *dosen't* ask, and that she should, is whether he would have liked to be told the truth, and the answer is affirmative: that's the reason he did not bury his head in the sand when he discovered her messages, and instead chose to investigate the situation.

Incidentally, it's pretty funny that she was "horrified" when she learned the remaining victim of their deception knew the truth, but she was ready to unilaterally disclose this to her husband's mother. This nonsensical hogwash is why it's impossible to take her preaching seriously, she contradicts herself in the same phrase, the lectures someone that knows what her lover's wife is going through much better than her, since they are both victims of their deception. Their supposed "guilty expression" doesn't do much, certainly it does not spur them to honesty.

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I must say that I can't take their supposed guilt very seriousl,y when even after being caught red handed they are unwilling to be honest and stop deceiving the last person that they are currently duping, letting her make an informed choice. So, as for the "guilty" part of their expressions, they can save it for someone else: it didn't stop them from deceiving their spouses for half a year and sleeping with married lovers with children of their own; now it doesn't stop them from being committed to continue lying to the remaining victim of their deception.

The cheating wife wants to make her husband an accomplice, and her lover is prepared to continue lying to his "second", "safe" choice, despite claiming that he is in love with another woman, but then again we can see that the guy is never willing to give something up and suffer a loss -that's why he didn't leave his wife when he was in love with another woman, and that's why now his guilt does not translate into wanting to be honest with his partner, treating her as an equal and letting her come to an informed decision; lastly, that's why he basically fires his lover, the woman he claimed to love, because it is more convenient for him than stepping aside himself, and presents her with the done fact without even telling her beforehand... not that she was any better, given the fact that she wanted to make her husband an accomplice: I don't know whether there is guilt or just sadness because things are going badly for them, but it sure does not translate into change and into honesty, so one wonders what they are guilty about and what the purpose of this guilt is: looks more like new years resolutions that people never stick too, about the same depth and seriousness-.

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I also did not get the intention of wallet gift scene. There was no scene in the entire story talking about the husband’s birthday. The drama said only the lover’s birthday and SY, the wife’s birthday later. I thought that a wallet gift was bought by the wife as a husband’s gift for the wedding anniversary … But why did she not give it to him a day before and after the anniversary rather than going out to meet her lover at the hotel and got caught-up? She could break her relationship with her lover if she felt guilty and did not forget the anniversary. So, if the affair was not found-out, she would then give the wallet gift to her husband after she had an affair with another man and kept lying and betraying him “all the times”. I would feel so sorry for the husband if he did not accidentally find out the text message of hotel appointment.

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I mean, the gall of her questioning his motivation and anger. The extra twist is that the guy actually did something good: stopping her lover's wife from being deceived by them (indefinitely, if they had anything to do with it) any longer.

I would have understood the resentment/anger if he and her lover's wife had slept together. Though that revenge sex would still have been their prerogative, and if it made them feel better, all the more power to them. It's not as if the ones actually deceiving/hurting/humiliating their partners have any right to complain about their treatment. Turnabout is fair play, and they are not *even* as they did not start it. Actually a twist taken by, for example, American Gods.

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The additional kick to her betrayal the day after their anniversary is the fact that the guy, knowing the truth, actually tried to get her to open up and spend some quality time together to reconnect. She chose to betray him instead, lying to his face. Consciously. How can she then pretend to be invested in the relationship? By the way, they *both* forgot their anniversary, so not sure why only he is getting the label "negletful" attached to him. He thought she was another person. On one hand, well adjusted and happy (and her smiling without telling him anything was wrong certainly didn't help, as he is not a telepath), on the other hand, faithful and worthy of his trust (which she abused, clearly demonstrating she was not, in fact, worthy).

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It should be said than not ever point of view deserves being aired or is rational or objective. The point of view that they are free to do as they please and it's nobody's else's business, as well as the point of view she can unilaterally decide to divulge his shame, or when and if to tell the other woman they hurt that they were leading her by the nose, is not worthy of consideration (but it is worthy of contempt).

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I mean, I get that *everything* about this strikes a nerve with him, but I must admit that her giving her lover a present is the least of his worries... she deceived him for half a year, and in its sociopathic way this fact should be much more present in his conscience, which instead turns to pathetic moves such as beating someone up... which is essentially losing the argument, in this case. It's not as if it can erase him sleeping with his wife. I would advise "love, not war", specifically between the two cheated parties. Could be even as an eff you to get back at their exes (or the cheater that should soon be exes.

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Good point that I really wish would be carried through all the drama (but this won't be the case, as he would convince himself that he brought this upon himself, a-la "look how short the skirt she was wearing", and like a battered housewife he will come back with his tail between his legs).

But yes, the perp is not the victim.

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I am not sure what the "hurting too" part means... he is hurting, the other woman is hurting. and those that hurt them are the ones that were deceiving them. Blaming him for this is the same as blaming Neo for freeing the humans living in a delusion and being used like batteries. A nice fantasy, but this is not reality. Bernie Madoff smiling while he rips you off still means you are being ripped off, the pain associated with this discovery is a good thing. It means you are not being treated like children, and not too bright ones at that.

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Not sure why forgiveness would even enter the discussion. Did they do anything to deserve it, besides admitting the obvious after being caught? Is there anything they can do to deserve it? I think not.

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Anyone processes pain as he wants, but it's funny that he is so focused on the guy when the one that lied to him to his face is his wife. She was not forced into anything or deceived in any way. He did not take advantage of her. She made a conscious choice, when he presented her the alternative to reconnect, to lie to his face and go to sleep with her lover. Of course, the lover is scum that did the same to *his* wife, and also filth that would wreck another person's family (they had six month and they wouldn't have stopped had they not been caught, so any excuse that they "didn't mean" go out of the window, not that they would be any more valid had this been a one night stand rather than conscious, premeditated deception).

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Irritating that she would be the one trying to push for separation, when in any rational universe after his initial mention of divorce he should have been out of the door and never looked back. Instead he is still here, dealing with her toxic mix of unfounded self righteousness and self pithy (and her other toxit bs in general).

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I mean, I disagree in that I think that this in most certainly *not* the time to victim blame, gaslight and focus on *his* flaws. They *both* forgot their anniversary, but she was the one that planned to spend the day after it in the arms of another man, while he was the one that tried to get her to spend time together and reconnect. They were *both* neglectful, and when he asked her instead of telling him about her troubles she smiled... and he was supposed to be a telepath?

This is all besides the point. He is neither a wife beating drunk nor some scum like her lover that would cheat on his wife and the mother of his children (with someone else's wife with kids of her own, I might add). I would say "I rest my case". There is no proportionality, and in terms of intentions, one is an unconscious slight, the other a conscious, premeditated, long term deception. If someone steals some bread, they might have done something bad, but from here to say that they deserve to have their hands cut off there is a world of difference.

And they were equally neglectful, and the one trying to savage the situation and try to reconnect and invest in the relationship, trying to get her to open up when he learned something was wrong. She was the one deceiving him about her own problems (he was perfectly kind when he asked her about her issues and she smiled instead of admitting she had problems, or when he offered to spend time together and she chose to be with her lover instead).

But most of all... they have her lover, the philanderer. With a wife so loyal that wouldn't cheat on him or leave even after what she did to her (which was much worse than not understanding her completely -not sure this can be lied entirely on his feet either, given how she lied and didn't communicate, and his lack of telepathic powers-). By contrast, neither of the cheated partners would have ever betrayed their spouses (and boy if they gave them reason to... I actually think that some revenge sex would have been more than warranted).

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I mean, there is low life scum, and then there is low life scum that doesn't care about deceiving someone for months and months until caught, and then want to act as if she gives a damn, as if their feeling are more important than their victim learning the truth, and as if they should be entitled to have their revolting actions buried under the sand because they don't want to deal with their consequences.

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Episode could have spent more time on the point that if she wanted to cheat, she could have chosen someone unattached (who would have been an equally beyond the pale, but marginally better filth, compared to the philanderer that betrayed his own family she chose to go with), so as to ruin the life on "just" her own family, and not someone else's.

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To be frank, if I had betrayed someone as horrifically as she did, I wouldn't dare to look them in the face, let alone talk back to them or prepare a gift as if I cared.

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The shamelessness of pretending that this did *not* involve her lover's wife and kids (or her own family, for that matter) and should have been kept under wraps just because she was too self centered and cowardly to face the consequences of her actions, in an act of cowardly evasion.

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Stating the obvious, but she lied to him again. She told him that she wouldn't meet her lover again, but she did meet him -no misunderstanding here-. It was not romantic, but he had the right to know he was the client on her project, and she did not divulge that information.

Regarding her being taken off the project, though I agree with the fact that it is inappropriate for them to continue to meet, I will highlight that it is her that is taken off it, rather than him that chooses to step aside. As would be expected of the self centered philanderer that would deceive his wife and the mother of his children with a married woman with kids of her own.

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Some comments on the general hypocrisy here. The guy cannot really have it both ways. He deceived his wife for six months with a woman he claims to be in love with. He might well be calm and not hate his lover's husband, that is not the point, nor is it whether they intended to hurt them or not, as he said in the other chapter. It does not matter if that was the goal in and of itself or a side effect. The main point is that it's a side effect they were willing to accept, in other words that they were perfectly willing to hurt/humiliate/deceive their lover's partner, not caring about their lover's children, despite them not having done anything to them (and to do the same with their own partners and children). Hurting someone you don't know for your own selfish whim denotes a rather sociopathic lack of empathy, or a hierarchy of priorities where satisfying their own selfish whims trumps walking all over and hurting other people. The indifference (or at least the not caring enough not to do it) is maybe worse than if it was intentional. it's the swatting of a fly, it's probably what vegans think about people who eat meat in a context where it's not really necessary.

The most disgusting thing is that they were not willing to tell the guy's wife. That's truly, truly reprehensible. The fact that if he did not leave him without any other choice, he would have never come clean to his wife and give him the basic human courtesy of being able to make her own decisions knowing all the facts. That was just disgusting.

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It's frankly not surprising that the protagonist would not trust her word regarding the gift or not meeting her lover (she was basically forced to admit to lying to him for six months and having slept with her lover, and she hid from him that she is meeting the guy as part of a project -what did she intend to do, continue to meet him if she was not taken off? In this chapter she does meet the guy, despite what she told her husband, this working relationship is something she should have told him if she was being open and honest, no surprise he does not trust her when she basically does not disclose any information that might be inconvenient for her unless he basically corners her and forces her to-).

The basic setup is that he trusted her unconditionally and thought she was the perfect woman, only to discover that she had abused that trust for the past six months, and that she was the kind of person that would not only betray him, but do it with someone else's wife who had kids of their own to boot, not caring about her lover's family either. Given recent events giving her the benefit of the doubt and the most charitable interpretation would be frankly crazy.

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Just want to reiterate how reprehensible and disgusting it is for them to act as if this should be covered up for their own self serving reasons. The philandering lover wanting to go back to lying to his wife as if nothing had happened, rather than come clean, the thought that he should be held accountable for his own action, own up to them, and respect his wife enough to let her make an informed decision not even crossing his mind.

The protagonist's wife wanted to make him their accomplice in the deception of the poor woman in the very same position he was in. Giving a more reasonable, objectively valid motivation for disclosing the truth, she is in the same position he was in, he is therefore in the best position to judge whether he would have preferred to continue "living in the Matrix", and being the happy idiot hooked up as a batter, or actually stop living the lie and face reality, which for all its faults has the benefit of actually being true. The point here is: the lover's wife had the right to know, and the two adulterers should be ashamed to even suggest hiding this from her, let alone making he cheated husband an accomplice in their deception. They are not doing a good thing, they are treating her literally like livestock, who eats and trots happily all the way to the slaughterhouse, and that they are more than happy to metaphorically eat for their own whim, without hatred and resentment.

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The request that he joins them in covering up their affair and keeping it from her lover's wife so he could continue living his life as before, as if nothing happened and he didn't horrifically hurt/humiliate/betray her, is frankly appalling. Let's speak plainly: if she was the one that discovered the truth, would he want her to keep quiet or to tell him about it? The answer is pretty clear, considering he didn't bury his head in the sand like an ostrich, but rather started to investigate like crazy.

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"“These women aren’t cheating because of their husbands. They just like any man besides their husband. Let’s not turn the innocent husbands into sinners.” So much for objectivity."

The claim regarding the motivation is untrue (and I could imagine situation like the wife beating drunk or spouses cheated upon having revenge sex with someone else -hopefully before divorcing their cheating spouses-, where the cheated upon spouse deserved it). But being unhappy does not imply cheating. That's a choice, and a choice that some people, including the protagonist and the wife of his wife's lover, would never make, despite the horrific betrayal they suffered (unfortunately, I was looking forward to them paying back their cheating spouses with the same coin).

A key aspect is who they are cheating with. In the protagonist's case, his wife was meeting a philandering husband with his own family.

I found the suggestion of "understanding why she did it" insulting. Okay, that's something that could be addressed. But frankly, the motive is besides the point. Reminds me of a journal article I had read that used those exact words: the loneliness, the thing missing from the marriage, etc. might all have been valid complaints to address in the appropriate manner, or grounds for divorce. They are not reasons to cheat. For that matter, we see characters here that have been put through much worse: the protagonist, her lover's wife. They don't cheat (they don't even abandon their partners). They should. The wife beating drunk, or a philanderer like her lover, or herself for that matter, do deserve to be cheated on (was hoping for some revenge sex between the cheated spouses). Him being slightly inattentive might be true in and of itself, but we cannot seriously consider it a "reason to cheat" any more than we can seriously consider "stealing a loaf of bread" a reason for "having your hand cut off". There is no proportion. This cannot be an excuse/rationalization. They might be true. But unhappyness does not equate cheating. Again, her lover's wife and her husband have more than enough reason to be unhappy, and they won't cheat on their spouses (though shey should, as they would deserve it). There is simply no proportionality between an unintentional slight and a premeditated (her "not inteding to" is hogwash and evasion) half a year long deception.

There is another element to this, namely that her lover is married and has a family. She does not know them, and they *surely* did not to anything to deserve the hurt/humiliation/deception, so there is no possible way they could be factored into her "reason" (on the other hand, being able to do this to them signals a rather sociopathic lack of empathy). Again, surely they *did not* contribute to her decision to hurt/humiliate/deceive them, given that she did not even know them in the first place and they did nothing to her. She simply didn't care about hurting her, at least not enough to...

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at least not enough to avoid doing that if it meant giving up on satisfying her selfish whim. This is an angle the show should have focused more on. It's not as if it's normal callously hurting people you don't know if you can satisfy your selfish whim.

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Disagree with the claim of it not being a "black and white" situation. There are such situations, such as a drama like Hymn of Death, where people were literally forced into marriages not of their own choosing. There are the case of the wife beating drunk or the philanderer that is paid back with their own coin. For anything else, being unhappy does not imply cheating (the protagonist and the wife of his wife's lover both *do not* cheat, despite having been deceived). And an unintentional slight stands in the same proportion, and makes as much sense when used as a reason for, a months long deception, as a stolen bread and having your hand cut off. Nothing black and white about that, there is only a possible assessment, namely "the punishment does not fit the crime", to use a metaphor.

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I am more than inclined with being indulgent with regards to the protagonist's behavior and motivations. They broke him emotionally, now he is angry and lashing out (I found the fight a ridiculous show of impotence, and find pathetic that he thinks he had his revenge: this is not the case). Frankly, he had a much better reason to reveal the truth to the lover's wife, namely that, as he remarked, she was in his same position, and they don't have any right to choose for her what she needs to know and to lead her along, letting her live a lie, as if she was a little kid that did not know about Santa. She needs to live in reality and to consciously choose, with all the information, whether she wants to continue living with her husband, who by his own admission is in love with another woman, his lover (and, had he been decent, would have broke things off with his wife *before* starting a relationship with the woman he was in love with -that's the bare minimum, I won't mention waiting for her not to be married, because that's a level of decency and respect that it's not even in the same galaxy as the philandered husband-). He was in the same position, and if someone knew, he would have very much preferred learning about the truth sooner rather than later. The point in life is not to avoid suffering at the cost of living a lie, but to try to achieve an happyness based on reality, which is the only one that counts and the only true happyness, to be frank. Otherwise we are human batteries in the matrix, cattle being fed only to be slaughtered.

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I found the adulterer's self entitled demand to keep things under wraps, involving the husband in a plan to continue to deceive the philandering husband's wife completely revolting and self serving. This is *not* something that does not involve her and that needs to be kept from her, this is the same level of infantilization that any villain treats the public with -they don't know better, they have to be deceived for their own good (maybe even spied upon? Wink Wink)-.

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I found the idea of hiding the truth from the philandering husband's wife completely revolting. She is not a child that didn't learn about Santa. She is a grown adult that is being led by the nose. I found particularly irritating the adulterous wife's self righteous behavior, and her questioning his motivations -yes, he is angry, and he has every right to be-, when her and her lover's motivations were completely self serving. Her lover's wife *deserves*, nay, *needs* to know the truth. Channeling the book "Lying" in spirit, a painful truth is better than a pleasant lie. A North Korean might very well have been brainwashed into thinking that they live a thousand times better than their fellow humans in the South, but that does not make it true, and the truth will set them free, to use another paraphrase.

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More prosaically, otherwise we are human batteries in the matrix, cattle being fed only to be slaughtered.

Adult humans are not children, they need to stop believing in Santa at some point, to use a metaphor.

The fact that it is inconvenient for the two lovers does not give them the right to act self righteously as if they are the appointed arbiters of what the philandering husband's wife needs or does not need to know. In her shoes, they would want to know. So did the protagonist, which is why he investigated the situation instead of ignoring it and pretending it did not exist.

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To clarify, in the above when I talk about the two adulterers sacrificing their lover's family for their own selfish whim, I meant to say "superficial whim". I don't put the protagonist's desire for revenge in the same category. He feels rightful anger and the need to lash out, and it's perfectly understandable for him to be emotionally unbalanced. It's completely rational and justified for him to want his wife's lover to face the consequences of his actions. He hates himself and, by projection, his wife, or more specifically he hates their blindness and stupidity. He wants to not be the only one suffering (misery loves company).

While I wish he would have ceased this bs and actually realized that he has a positive case to make here (he would have liked to know the truth, even if it was painful, instead of being deceived, and she is in the same position, plus it's appalling that they are asking him to compromise), his reasons for doing what he is doing are perfectly explained and understandable, certainly not disproportionate with respect to what was done to him. Furthermore, he is no more responsible for the wife's hurt than the family that ratted him out and the police are responsible for Bernie Maddoff's victim's hurt. This is a good hurt, because it means she is not living a lie. And this is not a superficial whim, him hurting people he does not hate. He does hate his wife's lover, for good reason, and he does hate the cheated wife, because she is in his same position and he hates his own ignorance of the deception. But yes, I should have made what I meant clearer in the pieces above.

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I find that there is a fundamental difference between their casual disregard of their partner's family's safety, and the protagonist's hatred here, and in some regards it would have been better had they actually hated them or had any other selfish reason for doing what they did. As it is, the ruination of their own and their partner's family is not even the goal, but simple road kill. That's what meant to point to when I was talking about "selfish whim", which should have really been "superficial whim". Lack of a reason besides just not caring. Hatred would have been better.

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"Hyun-woo scoffs that a man who loves his family so much would cheat."

Not sure how he can conclude he loves them from the fact that he has photos of them. Whether he does or not, quite evidently, factually speaking, not enough to avoid hurting them for his own superficial whims, without any specific reason, as simple road kill. So, not enough, and frankly I would say not at all. It cannot be placed on the same level as the protagonist or the wife of the lover of the protagonist's wife, neither of whom cheated on their partners, even in response to the cheating.

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I would strongly push back on the "he hurt her" narrative. That is the same as saying that the police and Bernie Maddoff's family "hurt" Bernie's victims by revealing his deception. No, reality hurt them, and the two adulterers hurt her. The protagonist simply hated himself and, by projection, her. He didn't want to be the only one to know, to be alone. These are perfectly understandable motivations, they have a clear reason, they are not superficial whims, they have deep roots in his trauma. I find the hatred more honest and preferable than the concern trolling self servingly masquerading a with to escape the consequences of their own actions

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Let's be clear about this: if the wife wanted to "keep it in the family", she should realize that her lover's family is part of this too. I put her hurting her husband by throwing her sleeping with her lover and her being the one missing him and reaching out for him first after their first encounter in the same spiteful vein that animated him here. Not a superficial whim, in his case, in hers? I don't know. Not sure where she gets the shamelessness of being short with him, after what he witnessed in the morning and had to learn, and after lying to him for half a year, and after spurning his attempt to reconnect on the day after their anniversary, to spend time with her lover instead.

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I cannot shake the feeling that if she was in her lover's wife's place she would want to know the truth. Same goes for her lover. Her husband certainly wanted to know. So it's pretty clear that hiding this information from them is mere self serving bs. Before asking to "keep it in the family", so to speak, she should have realized that her lover's wife is part of the family as well.

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I feel that the apology would have more weight behind it if she did not treat him curtly or try to preach to him from the pulpit. As he correctly remarked, she is not exactly in a position where she can give morality lessons to anyone, and hurting someone because you hate them is a hundred times preferrable than completely disregarding their suffering for no real reason at all -to satisfy a superficial whim-. Good or bad, he did have a reason. In my opinion, he had tons of better motives to do what he did. He should not hate himself nor his wife, by projection. Trusting their partners unconditionally was a mistake, but the ones at fault are the adulterous copule, for having exploited that trust.

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I mean, wanting to keep the truth from her lover's wife and letting him get away with this behavior scott free? How about no? Like the factual outcome, could have done without some of the self hartred and projected self hatred.

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"When she says she heard, he assumes she’s still meeting with the man."

Not like he thinks, but she did tell him that she would avoid contact with him, lying by omission by not telling him that he was the client of the project she was working on, and lying full stop by meeting him the very next day. And more importantly, not telling him anything of this key information.

"asks if they can’t fix the problems between them, but Hyun-woo snaps that she’s the one who cheated, so how can she act like she did nothing wrong? He rages that it isn’t fair that his whole world was turned upside down while both Soo-yeon and Sun-woo can walk around like nothing happened."

Exactly my point. She has no right, *no right*, to make this request. It would be massively unfair for them to have deceived them and destroyed their lives, and for him to have to swallow everything up, button everything down and cover it up just to make their lives easier. Actions have consequences, and it is only fair that they deal with the ones their caused. Telling is wife is a part of this, and a necessary part of this. It is simply unfair to the ones they hurt that they can continue to deceive the ones that did not have the luck of being able to catch on to their ruse.

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I find the notion that she would feel entitled to ask him to essentially cover for her and her lover and "resolve things among themselves" as insulting as it can be. Basically, they destroyed his life, and they expect him to help them to go back to normal as if they had done nothing wrong, and in doing so becoming an accomplice in the deception of her lover's wife. Despite not liking the characterization this chapter, I was more than satisfied with the fact that she was informed, and would have liked more emphasis of the basic fact of the fundamental unfairness of their demands: they don't have any right to be isolated from the consequences of their own actions, and in particular they don't have any right to ask the very person whose life they wrecked to essentially cover for them and act as their shield.

I'll say this, for the wife it was a painful but necessary wake up call, a harsh but necessary truth. She now can make an informed decision, knowing full well what kind of snake she is sharing a bed with. For the husband, it's simply the rightful, logical consequences of his actions, nothing more than what he deserves: there is no extraneous punishment heaped on top of it, he simply has to deal with the consequences of his own actions and choices and everyone else does, and in that respect it is literally and quite factually exactly what he deserves. Any suffering on his part is a result of his own actions and as such fully deserved.

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Incidentally, statistically speaking, as strange as it might seem, coming clean actually improves the changes of a couple staying together (not that in my opinion it should make the betrayal any less unacceptable, but we can say that at least you give the other person the right to choose with full context -the correct choice being divorce, maybe preceded with some revenge sex with the other cheated upon party-). They might think they were getting away, but it's not true that lies do not affect a relationship, and coming clean is better than her discovering it herself. Not that he came clean, or ever would, had his hand not been forced. So not sure if technically he allowed him to enter in the "more likely to patch things up" category, my understanding is that it is not the case (the protagonist briefly talked with the wife, so she knows or should suspect that it was not a voluntary decision on her husband's part).

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Vis a vis the supposed "guilty" expressions, I must say that it apparently doesn't do much. Guilt does not translate into them not sleeping together or into honesty coming clean to their partners. It does not stop the ML's wife from trying to make him an accomplice in their deception of her lover's wife. It doesn't stop her lover from being prepared to lie to his wife indefinitely. Even after they are caught, it does not make them decide to become honest. It's a bit like new years resolution, well meaning intentions that don't translate into anything in reality.

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With regards to the "guilty" expression, they were not guilty enough to stop themselves from lying to their partners for six months. The fact that they would have kept it up indefinitely, and that even now they are planning to continue to lie to the last remaining victim of their deception puts the sincerity of they guilt and apology in question. The spontaneous question that comes to mind is what use is their guilt, if it does not prompty them into honesty. Okay, so they were planning to lie to their spouses forever, but now one of them knows and supposedly they have been made to feel regret.

Funny how they didn't experience anything of the sort, certainly not enough to not betray them or stop deceiving them all this time, to the point where one wonders if the guilt is at the act, or at the fact that they were discovered... again, impossible for me to picture her wife spurning his invitation to reconnect the day after their anniversary, if she really was feeling guilty... I guess that we will never know, what we *do* know is that said guilt does not stop her from trying to get her husband, the victim of their deception, to become an accomplice in them continuing to lead by the nose the other victim of their deception, her lovers wife; by the same token, her lover intends to continue to lie to her and never come clean. Even at this point, they choose to continue to lie rather than come clean.

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I find it pretty galling that she would ask him to sacrifice and cover for them by bottling this all up and not speak to anyone. It's not his job to protect them from the well deserved consequences of their own actions. On the contrary, it would be perfectly reasonable and justified for him to do everything in his power to make sure they pay such consequences to the full extent possible (as, thankfully, he does in this chapter).

The idea of them simply going back to their own lives with their unsuspecting partner (not partners because he discovered the truth) is one of the most unfair concepts imaginable. Their partners have the right to know the entire truth and make a decision on what they want to do with full context. This was not stated clearly (in favor of other equally valid points about them not having the right to continue with their lives as if nothing happened, when they wrecked the lives of the people they deceived), but it really should have been, because it is really the most fundamental, basic concept here.

No mention of atonement or making it up to them (well, before that all their partners should be made aware of their activities, something that they had no intention to come clean to them about). Not that there is anything they could ever do to make things right, but notice that they don't even make an attempt to (like he correctly identified, they act as if this is a normal slight like having forgotten a birthday, with complete calm and nonchalance). Their (eventual, if it exists) inner guilt counts for nothing in that respect, as my guilt at having eaten the cheeseburger counts for noting towards my weightloss journey. Same thing for them not "intending" to hurt them or her not "intending" to deceive him.

I did not "intend" to eat the fries, and "intended" to go to the gym, but did the former and not the latter. Likewise, she (they) consciously, in a premeditated fashion, organized the months long deception with phone calls and bookmarking an hotel, looking him in the face and telling him that she can't spend the day after their anniversary with him, rekindling their relationship, while she intended to sleep with her lover instead. Being reluctant to disclose the duration of the affair and whether they slept together or not, as well as lying by omission about him being her project's client, something he had every right to know and that was utterly relevant in assessing her second promise of not coming into contact with him again, which was promptly broken, as she met him the very next day.

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I mean, I don't get where she gets the idea that she has the right to dictate the terms of how the fallout of her affair being discovered should go down, namely that he should not discuss it with anyone and not reveal it to the *other* poor person they were duping. She had no right to make that decision and it is galling she would even ask.

Regrading the trust issue (gift, etc.), it's not about being open minded or willing to listen or not (by the way, he just discovered her affair, so it's normal he would be hurting an in fighting mode, not sure where he is supposed to suddenly recover from the emotional wreckage and turn into the cold Star Trek's Data). It's about him having reasonable questions, and her not answering or being evasive (he asks a question, she answers with something completely unrelated). For that matter, she fails to mention that her lover is her client in her work project, which might be something relevant he would like to hear, essentially lying by omission -if she is not on another planet, she should know it's something he would like to know-, since she is not exactly being forthcoming and he has to press her to keep on track and spill the beans, it's hard to place the blame for the lack of trust on him -this is without even considering the basic fact that he was previously convinced she was a perfect woman deserving of his unconditional trust and she exploited that fact to deceive him for the last six months-.

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I have some issues with the characterization here (I mean, he did not one-up the guy or score a victory, beating him up unfortunately for him does not settle the score for the months long deception... more generally, the guy did not *steal* anything, as he learned in the previous episode it was his wife that missed him so much that reached out to him first after their first encounter: she has agency, and should be held to account and answer for her own actions). That said, I am really glad that he did what he said he would do last chapter, namely not let them get away scott free with their deception. They don't deserve to continue living their lives as if nothing happened while their victims try to hold on and survive in the (emotional, mental) wreckage their left behind. If somebody deserves to be in pain, it is the perp, not the victim, here -no reason to sacrifice himself for the sake of protecting her lover, who had no qualms about sleeping with his wife knowing she was married with kids, nor about betraying his own wife and the mother of his children-. More importantly, his wife *had* to be made aware of the situation. I completely reject this *hurting someone else for revenge hogwash* from the commenter at the beginning of the chapter (with the protagonist himself in his emotionally unbalanced state lashing out... understandable, I can empathize, but he should not hate himself and his ignorance, and the cheated wife in her ignorance by reflection). Even if he was cold as an iceberg, this was the absolutely *correct* decision to do. He wanted to know the truth, and the cheated wife, being in his exact position, wants to know the truth as well, and she has exactly the same right to.

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I would have given him different motives (though I am also not judgmental of him having been essentially emotionally broken and been made to hate himself and his ignorance/weakness, and by reflection the cheated wife and her ignorance/weakness... also, an understandable desire *not* to be alone, to be able to share this pain and experience with someone else that, like he wanted to, had the right to know the full truth, rather than being duped in a happy lie), but I am happy that he told her.

From the philandering husband's behavior it's pretty clear that neither adulterer ever planned to tell the poor woman the truth, and they simply don't have the right to choose what the fallout of their deception should be, and go back to their lives as if they did nothing.

Things the show should have focused more (or at all) on are the parallel in the direction of "he wanted to know/would have liked to have been told if he was in the cheated wife's position", as well as the basic fact that his wife lied to him by omission by not mentioning the fact that the guy was the client on her project -and met him the day after promising she would not come in contact with him again... again, if he had not taken her off the project (I will notice in passing that he did not decide to step aside himself, very conveniently for him, but we get the drift with how self serving they both are), would she have asked to be taken off? Or simply never mentioned to her husband that she was seeing her lover at work every day?-.

One thought I later considered mistaken which I had was that with the ambiguous way she told him she is not going to see him "for now" last chapter, maybe a part of him thought that her lover's wife knowing the truth might have helped ensure that they would stop seeing each other, but frankly I don't think so -they are not monitored 24/7 and as shown here they can easily meet at work, as he fully understands when he suspects that she is preparing his gift-. Or they could cheat with someone else.

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I agree with another comment I read in the thread that after he took her of the project the adulterous wife does *not* feel self hatred or shame for having slept with the scum. Apologies, I had read wrongly. I mean, if she had had such an epiphany, it would have come quite late: the guy was the kind of scum that would cheat on his wife with a married woman when they both had kids, and even after being discovered was not willing to come clean to his wife and let her make her own decisions: he did not even have that shred of regard for her. But the adulterous wife is not any better in that regard: she did the same and would have even made her husband an accomplice in the deception, without any shame or remorse, on the contrary, with inexplicable self righteousness, as if she was entitled to keep things under wraps to avoid having to deal with the consequences of her own actions. She did not want to be any more upfront with her lover's wife than he was with her in this matter (and at least he simply cut her off the loop, and while similarly not letting her make a choice, he didn't deceive her, like they both wanted to do with his wife).

On one hand, I wonder about what she would have done had he not taken her off. The previous episode she told her husband she would not come in contact with her lover again, but she did not tell him that he was the client for her project, so it's not clear to me what she would have done there (actually, she breaks her promise in this very episode and meets the guy). The idea of not working together and seeing each other has merit (thinking of recent CNN bigshot that was in hot waters for not disclosing a relationship), it's pretty ironic that the guy would throw her under the bus instead of being the one to walk away from the project, without even a discussion at that. I mean, if he was trying to continue deceiving his wife maybe he thought it would be easier having one less thing to explain, or, more probably, he is just the self entitled scum that would cheat on his wife with another married woman, when they both had kids. No surprises there. Not that the show remarked much on how lowly a scum of a human being the guy was. He said he loved her last chapter, but now that he was discovered he plans to go back to his second "safe" choice and deprive her of a choice by letting her live a lie. He does not respect her enough even to let her make her own informed decisions. But for that matter, neither of the two adulterers do.

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Actually, reading better the comments, I was mistaken about him hating his wife's lover's wife. He is mad at her as he is mad at himself, but there is really no self-hatred here or hatred for her. He does not care about their feelings, and frankly speaking, the fact that she suffers is secondary to the fact that she needs to know the truth. His wife's and her lover's feelings, obviously and correctly, are besides the point here and outside his concern. That's personally alright and understandable. But this was not an attempt to hurt her for its own sake. As for the adulterers, they are facing the consequences of their own actions, which is perfectly just.

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I find his assessment that the adulterers's feelings and desire to escape the consequences of their own actions (even enlisting him, a victim, in the deception of the other victim still being duped, something that would have deserved more comment and indignation in-drama) completely correct: they are not his problem, he has no reason to help them deceive their other victim and it would be utterly immoral to do so.

He is also correct about not caring about hurting the wife and keeping her in blissful ignorance, like a human battery attached to the Matrix. Pigs fed to be led to the slaughterhouse. That's not how you treat an adult human being, it's barely how you treat a child, Santa and "the Talk" excluded. Would he want to be treated that way, had she been the one that discovered the truth? No, considering the lengths he went to discover the truth himself. I wish the show would have focused more on this latter aspect and she shameless hypocrisy of the adulterers, that even after being discovered want to go back to live as if they did nothing wrong, not even considering the possibility of coming clean to the other victim, not treating her with the dignity and respect you owe a person with the right to make their own reality based decisions.

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The idea that they would hide the truth from her lover's wife is the most patronizing thing one could imagine. They are treating her as they would a sheep or a child incapable to make their own decision, rather than an adult with agency that has the right to know the truth and make informed choices. She has every right to know the kind of snake she married.

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I wouldn't know if I would characterize their faces as "miserable and guilty", probably "sad" is a more apt description. They spent most of the time talking about the project, not that one should expect more from them given that they were willing to deceive their families indefinitely. Bit useless to feel "miserble and sad" now, after they have been caught, and apparently they are not guilty enough to actually come clean to the lover's wife. The ML's wife actually tries to make him accomplice in the deception of her lover's wife, and her lover, who never actually planned to give up something himself and leave his wife, despite claiming to be in love with another woman, plans to go on deceiving his wife as before. So, not exactly guilty to the point where they can't watch themselves in the mirror and decide that it is time to reverse course and be honest.

Guilt was certainly not a factor when she reached out to him after their first meeting and turned down her husband's offer to reconnect the day after their anniversary, lying to his face as she calculatingly, in a premeditated manner, has been doing for the last half year, in order to sleep with her lover. Same for him, publicly putting up the mask of a good husband and dad, and betraying his wife for a married woman with kids that he says he is in love with (interestingly as we saw last chapter, she did not say whether she was in love with him or not, which really makes gift inference reasonable this chapter). Of course he takes her off the project without consulting her, instead of walking away himself, but I wouldn't have expected anything different from someone that stays with and deceives his wife despite claiming that he is in love with another woman. He does not want to give up anything himself. Not that she was any different, trying to make her husband an accomplice in their deception. Guilt didn't stop them from sleeping with another married person with children. They deserve each other, in a way.

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I must say that, incidentally, I find the whole tv program around cheating creepy filth and basically trash television.

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I mean, hearing her self entitled screed one finds wishing that he would point out that he does not owe it to them to shut his mouth about what they did and shield them from the consequences of their own actions. Having their misdeeds not come to light is not a natural right or something they are entitled to. I don't understand where she gets the idea that this should be the case.

In terms of writing/characterization, I would have preferred it to not be framed in terms of revenge (more precisely the fact that he feels like he has gotten even, when he has not, while he is fully entitled to feel anger and indignation, in particular the fistfight was a show of impotence... he and the lover's wife should have some revenge sex, pay the adulterers back with their own coin, now *that* would be closer -though not quite, as it was their cheating partners that broke their wows in the first place- to evening the score) but in terms of what is objectively the right decision.

This latter aspect was partially touched upon by the last episode, when the protagonist correctly expressed indignation at the idea of keeping this all under wraps and the deceivers returning to live their lives as if they had done nothing: his world was shattered, so how dare they ask him to keep up the pretense and become complicit in their sharade. For what, to protect them from the consequences of their own actions, actions which he was a victim of in the first place? A completely unfair request, and a completely unfair situation: the philandering husband facing the consequences of his own actions and being stopped from further deceiving his wife is completely just and right, same thing goes for the protagonist's wife.

Wish this aspect was highligted more than it was, as the conversation could just as well have been framed around the issue of what is just and right in this situation. Because he doesn't have to cede the high ground, the request to keep things under wraps and making him complict is completely unfair towards him, and continuing to deceive the lover's wife is completely unfair towards her. She deserves to know the truth and make an informed decision, they don't have any right to continue to lie to her because they want to avoid dealing with the fallout of their deception. That's what personal responsibily is all about, and if he had a decent bone in his body the philandering husband would have come clean himself, without having to be forced to be honest to his wife.

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I completely understand and emphatize with the fact that the characterization was based around his anger, it's perfectly realistic and legitimate given that he had just discovered their betrayal. However, from a cold, rational, moral point of view, he also had an air tight case in terms of what was the right decision in this context. which is not to continue to deceive the remaining victims, but to choose honesty and come clean. It could have been a moment of growth, but the two adulterers remain the self serving scum they were, and the wife even tried to make one of the victims, the husband, an accomplice in the deception of another, her lover's wife.

The conversation could just as well have been framed around the issue of what is just and right in this situation. Because he doesn't have to cede the high ground, the request to keep things under wraps and making him complict is completely unfair towards him, and continuing to deceive the lover's wife is completely unfair towards her. She deserves to know the truth and make an informed decision, they don't have any right to continue to lie to her because they want to avoid dealing with the fallout of their deception. That's what personal responsibily is all about, and if he had a decent bone in his body the philandering husband would have come clean himself, without having to be forced to be honest to his wife.

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It was touched upon the previous episode, when he remarked how unfair it would be for the two perpetrators of the deception to be able to simply go back to their lives as if nothing happened, even continuing to lie to the remaining victims, and that the just, right thing to do would be to expose the lie for what it is, and have them face the consequences of their own actions, letting all the victims of their deception and duplicity make an informed decision based on reality, rather than having the decision to continue with the charade being made for them without them not only not having a say in the matter, but even knowing about it. In other words, the philandering husband has no right to continue to deceive his wife, if he had a decent bone in his body he should be honest and give her a chance to make her own decision, but then again if he had a decent bone in his body none of this would have happened.

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The husband doesn't need a patronizing, self serving lecture from the pulpit: he is exactly in her lover's wife's position, he knows what it means to be deceived, and he knows that if he was the one still in the dark about it he would want to know the truth. This is after all what he has been trying to discover all along, when he first saw the signs: he did not bury his head in the sand and faced reality as it is rather than choose self deception.

The lover's wife is not given a choice in the matter: her husband (and the protagonist' wife, for that matter) has self servingly made the choice for her to keep her in the dark. She was not consulted, she had no input in the matter, she did not even know that such a choice was being made. She is not being treated as an equal, but as a puppet, as if it was his natural right to keep being her husband after having deceived her, as if they were entitled to go back to their previous lives with none being the wiser, except for the cuckolded husband that knows the truths but has to live with it and never reveal it, becoming in the process complicit in the duping of the other victim of their continued deception.

What right do they have to ask that of him, to become an accomplice in order to shield the from the consequences of their own actions, when he was one of their victims? Why should they be entitled to go back "business as usual" while the other spouse is being kept in the dark in the most patronizing way possible -literally taking away from her the ability to make an informed decision on one of the central aspects of her life... I imagine her discovering it not now, when she has the chance to rebuild a new life, but decades in the future when she had lost tens of years of her unique life that she could have employed to start anew-).

Not only does the self serving rationalization presented by the wife not have any value (it's insulting that she would even ask him, one of the victim, to become an accomplice in their deception of another victim), but it's a complete moral inversion. The philandering husband's wife might suffer, but she would suffer for their deception. The deception itself is the problem, the happyness was based on a lie, and more importantly, on her choices being stripped away from her, made behind his back by a man that thinks he owns her and he is entitled to have her in his life while lying to her face, without giving her any choice in the matter. That's not an equal. If she discovered the deception in ten years, those are ten years she is never getting back where she could have found someone else.

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[ep5] I tried really hard, but I really cannot simpathize/empathize with the adulterous wife. I get the point about her being stressed. I don't really understand how this is connected to the affair (one would guess that a lover would take away time, not clear her schedule, and somehow she can't find two hours for relaxation, but she "magically" finds the hours to be with him... plus he tells her to think about what she wants, but she does not change anything about her life at all, all of her committments stay the same). What I don't get is the long term deception part. She had six months to break it off and even come clean, but she was intending to lie to him indefinitely, while continuing the affair (she was the one reaching out to her lover after their first encounter).

So she put herself in situations like the following:. Her husband asked her to spend time together to reconnect the day after their anniversary (this in my mind should meet the relaxation/mee time part, and I don't get why it wouldn't be a turning point if this was her motivation and she loved her husband/wanted to stay in the marriage). She lied to his face, deliberately making it seem as if she had a work meeting, and went to have sex with her lover in a motel. Afterwards she planned to pick up her son.

We see her show guilt after he knows of the affair, and even not being able to look her husband in the face and live with her shame, which is why she tried to divorce him multiple times. And they broke the affair off so easily. I don't get why they didn't after their first time, or whether they didn't feel guilty about lying to their partners when they didn't know. That's a problem with the drama, I think, that we never see the conflict/guilt *during* the affair: while they were having it, they were able to lie effortlessly, afterwards she cannot look him in the face and live with him.

I tried to tell myself that she put on a mask and she basically never let him see her true face, lying to him all the time, or that she compartimentalized... but I really can't understand how her (or her lover) were emotionally not even tempted to come clean and at the same time didn't even consider breaking off the affair (she is the one telling that she would have continue the affair and the lies indefinitely). Same thing for her lover lying to his wife even after ending the affair. In all this, I really don't get at an emotional level how she could look them in the face and not be conflicted or feel the need to come clean. After she had cheated once due to the motives give, why did it not stop there and she reached out to her lover again? How could she not feel the need to break it off and even come clean? In her place, I would imagine guilt eating me alive and I wouldn't be able to last a day without spilling the beans, when looking at my lover and child's face, let alone plan to both lie to them indefinitely AND continue the affair.

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And... the next chapter the lover's wife will thankfully shut up all the commenters and thank the cheated husband for telling her the truth. As was her right to know. While her own husband would have treated her as an object and disposed of her like property, continuing to lie to her for the rest of her life, because he felt he was entitled to have her by his side and didn't want to offer her even the possibility of leaving him for someone better. In short, because it was convenient for him. Same reason instead of walking away himself he will later fire his lover from the project even discussing it beforehand and badmouth her to his wife.

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A plan to continue deceiving her that her lover, soon to be fired from the project without even a discussion and badmouthed in front of his wife, had agreed to, despite being herself a woman. The treatment of his wife as if it was cattle or an object, rather than equal partner in a relationship supposedly based on trust, who had the right to make an informed decision of one of the central parts of her life, namely who to spend it with.

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I mean, what am I to make of the big deal about the gift she bought him? She was a habitual liar and serial cheater, he had asked her how she was and whether she wanted to spend time together to reconnect the day after their anniversary, which she (like him) had forgotten -unlike apparently his birthday, but what is it that the show is hinting at? That since she got one of the two she cares? When she would have deceived him indefinitely?-, and she lied to his face that she was fine and had a work meeting, only to go sleep with her lover and go pick up her kid afterwards.

Seems to me that *not* being a habitual liar and serial cheater would be a better present to him than a wallet. Her not spurning his offer to reconnect, lie to him and go sleep with her lover, then pick up her kid as if she did nothing, would have been a birthday gift. But since she did, what use does he have for a effing wallet? Seems like mockery: she was willing to hurt/humiliate/deceive him indefinitely, without caring enough to not cheat, not reach out to her lover after the first time, not be a habitual liar and serial cheater, but she gives him a birthday gift? After forgetting their anniversary (like he did), and going to seep with her lover the day after? Insulting to the viewer's intelligence at how shameless this all is.

For that matter, in terms of purchases she got the sexy red lingerie for her lover (the one in chapter one he had never seen before), so it's not a first for her to give 'gifts' to him. Also quite shameless that she would not mention that her 'coworker' was really a client on a project she led, and that she saw him everyday. She had just promised her husband she wouldn't be contacting him, fully knowing that and hiding this from him, and now she met him one to one, because he chose to get rid of her even discussing it beforehand.

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I mean, talk about having no right to judge/no leg to stand on. She was the one to knowingly deceive (and who would like to continue deceiving, by making her husband an accomplice) her lover's wife, and did not have any hesitation at reaching out to him again after their first meeting and having an affair, risking to ruin both her and his family.

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Also, he should have pressed her to know why she spoke to her lover, and discover that she omitted to mention that he was the client of the project she was working on.

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Not sure why she thought it was appropriate for him to escape the consequences of his own actions, at the cost of continuing to deceive his wife.

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One aspect I wish they had focused more on here was understanding better how serious/what her feelings for her lover were and currently are (after he fired her without discussing things with her). We get irritatingly little insight on what she thinks of the guy.

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Totally agreed with you that we should know more about her feelings to her ex-lover SW after he ended the relationship with her. I recalled that SY came to meet her ex-lover and gently complained that it would be good if her lover had early informed her about her removal from the project. But when her ex-lover said to her that he did not want to contact her personally but wanted to do it via company communication, she acted so calmly and accepted whatever he said in front of his face. I did not understand why she acted so calm and did not feel disappointed, angry, or upset to her lover who claimed that he loved her but requested to take her out from the project without early informing her and ended the relationship while she just wanted to temporarily stop the relation. What was she thinking about her ex-lover?

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I firstly thought that she was a door-mat person type, so she did not dare to say anything bad to her ex-lover when he took her out from the project. But this would be against to her written character that she was capable to be the Team Leader of her design group; she could later argue with her boss to keep her on the other project that he initially thought to take her out; she could challenge with her top managers to evaluate her performance based on her capability, etc. It was quite disappointed that there was no scene mentioning about her feelings to her ex-lover who claimed that he loved her … and she herself admitted that she missed him and forgot her family, responsibility, guilt when she was with him?

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We know very little of her opinions on the guy she was having an affair with. And if we as the public are confused, one cannot imagine her husband. What does her silence/reluctance to say yes or no signifies? Same reluctance as in disclosing any part of the affair?

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