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Law School: Episodes 12-13 Open Thread

This week we get resolutions for both of the cases that have had our study group tied in knots. And we finally know who the Law School Murderer really is, but as we know, there’s someone powerful arranging things behind the scenes—who looks to be our final baddie as we enter the last quarter of the show.

 
EPISODES 12-13 WEECAP

Our poor beleaguered study group and their faculty advisors pulled off not one, but two victories, huzzah! It’s great to see Jong-hoon publicly vindicated, but Ye-seul’s arc has been my favorite part of the drama so far. Yes, even more than Joon-hwi and Sol A’s adorable dynamic! (Speaking of—we didn’t see Joon-hwi say who he’s crushing on, but it seems clear that he said “Kang Sol” and Sol A assumed he meant her roommate, because she’s just that oblivious.)

Out of all the subplots in Law School, Ye-seul’s is not only the most well-written and -executed, but the most moving and relatable as well. We’ve seen hints of her abusive relationship from opening week, and as time went on, the people around Ye-seul began to notice that something was wrong and try to intervene, to no avail. Ye-seul herself tried repeatedly to defend herself from Young-chang, first by documenting the injuries he inflicted on her, then by standing up to him and his father by testifying on behalf of Jong-hoon—and later, stopping him from sharing the spycam video.

Every step of the way though, Young-chang was gaslighting her, beating her, threatening her and emotionally blackmailing her. He sank to new lows having himself wheeled into the courtroom to put on that disgusting show of victimhood. I’m so glad that the writing showed all of that, and how difficult it is to break free of.

It was hard to watch and must have been rough to portray—showing Ye-seul’s trauma, her guilt, her torment and humiliation at having to not only face the fact that the person she loved raped her, but declare it in open court. But not showing all that would have undermined any attempt to portray intimate partner violence realistically and with empathy. And actress Go Yoon-jung did a great job; she’s definitely one to watch.

Sure, it’s dramatized and softened for television, but the show touched on every aspect of the issue: how difficult it is for a woman to leave an abusive partner, how baffling that can be to those around her, the absolute violations that come with reporting a rape and trying to get any kind of justice through the system. The way women who report sexual assault are treated by prosecutors, judges and juries, and the unseen scars this violence leaves on so many people, as with Sol A’s family. And all that while respecting Ye-seul’s agency through the process. It was powerful to see her understand and embrace what Jong-hoon was encouraging her to do: accept that she’s a victim, that she did nothing wrong, and that she has a right to speak up and defend herself. I wanted to cheer.

I loved seeing Ye-seul get off with self-defense, even if, having lived as a woman in this world my whole life, I know exactly how unlikely it is. Isn’t that why we watch legal and crime dramas, though—to feel the catharsis of seeing justice done when it’s so often denied us in real life? That’s certainly the enjoyment I get from the best of this genre. I wouldn’t necessarily put Law School in that superlative category, but in this one aspect I think the show definitely succeeds.

Speaking of what it does less well—was anyone else laughing at that super dramatic chair turn by Assemblyman Go at the end of Episode 13? As if it hasn’t been obvious for a while that he’s the Big Bad that’s been pulling the strings this whole time. He’s almost too overtly villainous, and I’ve mentioned before how it seems everyone in the drama is connected to these few people that keep popping up: Ji-ho’s father, Lee Man-ho, Seo Byung-ju, Kang Dan…it’s all a bit much.

But the other day I realized something that changed my feelings on that interconnectedness a little. Law School reminds me of those small town murder mysteries, where everyone involved in the case has history with each other. Like Prosecutor Bae getting rejected by Jong-hoon back in law school, which he ultimately used to make Bae invalidate one of her own arguments against Ye-seul. The drama is set in Seoul, but it portrays well the slightly incestuous feeling of academia (and I’m sure the criminal justice system, though I have less experience with that), where everyone has a long list of petty grievances, and the webs of power that tangle everyone together are that much harder to break. (And they all know your dad, who may or may not be the Vice Dean.) Plus, y’know, murder.

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Guess why Professor Yang Jong-hoon always plays with the puzzles of elephants?

Truth and Justice only through the Law is always our utopia, but there is an elephant in the room: people.

In this case, it is the Assemblyman Go Hyeong-su, and Kang Dan will probably be the last piece to the puzzle, and I bet she will eventually come back from Boston before the end of this show (she is intentionally obscured before the camera, until now), as she will be the key to Assemblyman Go’s downfall and the answer to why Prof. Seo Byung-ju is killed.

Now Prof. Yang has to form a blood alliance with Man-ho the rapist. They are the two extremes in the spectrum of just and evil, and they share the rarest blood type: RH-O, guess he now needs to spill some blood to keep Man-ho survive.

This is also the meaning (and the main theme) of Episode 13: the ethic of representing even the evilest person in the society, because you never know who else will get hurt simply because you don’t bind to the ethic. This is what Sol A must learn.

Unlike Vincenzo or Taxi Driver, Law School stresses the importance of Justice through Law principle. Because there’s always that elephant in the room, and even vigilante justice can’t avoid that elephant in the room.

After all smoke screens (Prof. Yang as murder suspect, Ye-seul being charged) throughout the whole show, we have to go back to the origin of all cases: the murder/suicide (because we never confirm which case it is) of Prof. Seo. I guess even though he ordered blood test papers in advance, there is still a possibility he felt guilty all of a sudden—if Joon-hwi suddenly came to him with that car accident video, as well the gift of land from Assemblyman Go, which set off a floodgate of all this mess (and he somehow hinted to Seo Ji-ho in that same office). Prof. Yang may have been the most credible former prosecutor of the whole drama, he still can be a flawed person.

I said Sol A may probably not be very good in her exam, but she would probably be the best person in the legal field. I also found Prof. Yang never smiles at any of his students (even among his colleagues, he rarely smiles), but she and Joon-hwi are the only two to receive this, he clearly loves these two students, and his love is tough. On the other hand, I also find that the two characters with the same name (Sol A & B) are the extremes of another spectrum: social status. Sol B’s confession of plagiarism goes a pretty long way, but I bet she will still be a great judge, as long as she keeps on visiting her conscience. Lately Washington Post publishes a story about a former drug cartel recently being sworn in as a lawyer, and the one who witness the ceremony is the judge who gave him chance 16 years ago (Story: https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2021/05/25/edward-martell-lawyer-judge-bruce-morrow/). I am looking forward to Sol B’s redemption.

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Lovely story in the link. Thanks!

Question - what is the nature of the relationship between Assemblyman Go and Man-ho? Perhaps I am reading too much into the scene, but I got the feeling theirs is not a recent one time relationship. Is there a birth secret tied to Man-ho’s son - after all this drama is flavored with a bit of makjang.

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"What is the nature of the relationship between Assemblyman Go and Man-ho?"

My short answer is, @hebang, not sure. I have a not-so-certain wild theory, however: Man-ho did say that the first charge (which is made by Presecutor Jin Hyeong-woo) pushing him into jail is not sexual assault, but doing illegal organ trade, and Kang Sol A as well Kang Dan's father, as a gamble addict, may have some dealing with Man-ho, plus Kang Dan and Assemblyman Go's entanglement (written so-called "Lee Man-ho Law", exposing Go's election scandal, etc.), and Man-ho's son's only trusted person as Kang Dan ... This whole mess must be a huge web. I just don't know how to link them together, and I would let our beloved screenwriter to enlighten us. Afterall, Kang Sol A did said, she want the law to apologize to her, such wrongdoing shouldn't be a small one.

Talking about Law School as a Makjang, I guess it is because of the music composer behind all those creepy OST (You probably know he is the same composer behind OST of SKY Castle)? I, however, have to say this: the screenwriter of this very drama has been successful on doing this genre-bending thing: He basically mixes school, court, suspense, office dramas (do I miss some other genres as well?) all into this one complex being. I may not define Law School as a Makjang, but it may well be a perfect example of one, afterall.

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"... may have some dealing with Man-ho."

I mean, selling his organ to pay his debt.

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One more thing: I guess I have fallen in love with Ye-seul. She (both the character and the actress behind her) is just one beautiful human being inside and out.

Don't say it out loud.

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Me too!

I love Kang Sol A.

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This. Thank you for articulating what I can’t. It is interesting that this show came in the wake of several vigilante justice dramas , as it serves a strong counterpoint to that theme.

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"I thought this was a sad genre. The reason is that viewers had to cheer for Vincenzo, a villain."
——Song Joong-ki, on drama Vincenzo
  as well his own role in the drama
(Article: https://www.soompi.com/article/1467132wpp/song-joong-ki-on-playing-an-antihero-in-vincenzo-undeniable-chemistry-with-jeon-yeo-bin-future-plans-and-more)

You have made a very good point, @jingbee.

In Vincenzo final recap, I've made above quote from Song Joong-ki: In fact, it is only by chance if a villain will fight for justice, and in the case of Vincenzo, for example, Vincenzo Cassano met Yoo-chan and fell in love with his daughter, Cha-young, who put him in the position of going against Babel. If Yoo-chan and Cha-young don't exist, Vincenzo can freely side himself with anyone to do whatever he want, which it may not be justice: In fact, I guess it's probably much easier to side with Babel then with Geumga to get his own gold.

Doing justice by law would, at least, minimize such chance to make sure justice is served, and Ye-seul's case clearly shows us (Certainly, even under the law, we can still be creative, like Jong-hoon--and in fact, both Jong -hoon and Vincenzo are pretty similar character wise, except one doing good and the other doing evil. We surely can't fully eliminate that chance: if the whole system and the people controlling it is totally corrupted, then we probably need a revolution to have the whole system reset, which would be up to those people under such system to judge when and where is suitable.

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This is insightful @imperialtitus especially the importance of the legal system in the face of so much vigilantism. All we've got is the law, but so many dramas make a compelling argument about the powerlessness of the law when the prosecution in particular is so swayed by the powerful. Separation of the powers is clearly a big issue in Korea as it has been where I come from too. I enjoy seeing issues like this being rehearsed in dramas. I fully expect them to also play out in real life. That's why I enjoy following the politics of the prosecution in real life through the Korean newspapers.
I also like how you recognise Sol A and B on the socio-economic spectrum.
I have a hunch that someone other than the uncle was driving the car and the uncle was protecting them. Three cheers too for the Socratic method of teaching.

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I too thought Ye-seul's story was well done. Professor Yang having break down the case as if she was at school made for some powerful scenes.

I really liked the courtroom scenes, however unrealistic. I like how they have Professor Yang explain legal terms, like reasonable doubt. Other k-dramas have made me aware of how strict and even unreasonable South Korea's self-defense laws are and the drama did a good job arguing that.

Congressman Ko is such a tedious villain.

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The reason I liked legal dramas is that if done well, it gives me a better appreciation of justice, the application and nuances of the law, and complexities of human nature. Law School is doing that extremely well, and yes, despite the makjang feels. The character reactions are natural and logical. And, though I have to rewatch at -1.5x (the exchanges are too fast for the subtitles sometimes), the conversations and dialog are straighforward and on point.

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Oh and I want to highlight the best scene to me.. Prof Yang's explanation to the jury of "reasonable doubt" using the analogy of those puzzle pieces.

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It was really great!!

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Apparently it is possible to be mindblown by Kim Myung Min's acting even after 10+ years of watching his dramas. And KMM aside, I'm just enjoying this drama so much. The cast and execution is just so good, for lack of better expression.

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Ye-Seul's story was really well done. One of my favorite representations of both abuse victims and how they are treated. I really enjoy this drama.

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Ye-Seul's story is by far the best plotline in this show. It has pertinence, resonance and sensitivity. It's well written, well-acted and well-executed and it avoids some of the common pitfalls kdramas make when dealing with these issues.

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Imagine having a teacher that is like Prof Yang and Prof Kim (not sure if I got it but the female prof) in today’s world, that on its own is jackpot.
They’re not perfect but really try their best for the students.
I’m not in anyway undermining teachers that are not like this because it can’t be easy and I respect teachers a lot regardless of how harsh some of mine were.
Prof Yang; a teacher through and through, man couldn’t even help teaching in the court room.
I’m starting to suspect prof Kim though and I really hope I’m wrong!

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I've been thinking that for a while. I hope I'm wrong too.

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Professor Kim is hiding something with those phone calls.

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Drama wise, Prof. Kim Eun-sook as the great big boss would be a shocking one, but thinking twice, I don't think she has enough motif to support this (except if they want to make a big terrible ending out of it). The phone may also be a possibility she is helping Prof. Yang to find Kang Dan (I remember she once says in English in one of those call) behind Prof. Yang, and they probably call the same person in Boston ... not sure, should re-watch that part ...

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Yeah
She might be helping but you never know
About the phone call, she was talking to someone called James.

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A question to you, @esther95:

I also remember Prof. Yang did talk on the phone in English with someone (in Boston, I guess?), and you remember the name of that guy?

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I think prof yang was talking to Kang Dan

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@esther95, no I've just check. It was in Episode 7, he is talking with some professor surname "Stone". Many times when he was talking with Kang Dan, he uses Korean.

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I thought James is Lee Man Ho's missing son. When her phone rang, the picture of the caller is the same one as that of the son. So, maybe Kang Dan took the boy with her when she fled? And Prof Kim might have known all along where they are?

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This was my thought!

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After watching the second time, I am pretty sure Prof. Kim is calling Man-ho's son, @jingbee. His face is exactly the same when Man-ho get a hold of the photo of him.

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she was also with the uncle just before he died. i remember her leaving the room as he was complaining of a headache.

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That wasn’t in his office if I remember correctly.

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No, it was in the observation room.

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Yep, as @esther95 said, that was as she was leaving the mock trial observation room when they were about to take a break. He went to his office after that.

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But wait a minute. Thinking about Prof. Kim's story, I first find her having a lot of love-hate relationship with Man-ho. She is the one who reluctantly lighten Man-ho's sentensing ("I will always feel shameful about doing that"). She gets a hold of James, Man-ho's son, and then she gives 2 bills (the "Lee Man-ho Law", then now that law stopping libel lawsuit if they are telling the truth) to Assemblyman Go, and on the way she asks Go to keep his promise (but what promise? About James or Man-ho?). I don't think Prof Kim is a bad person, but there must be some kind of relationship between her and Man-ho ... an unfilial son or a lost lover, everyone?

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It’s a hate relationship through and through. Didn’t she almost miscarried her baby because of Man ho?

The promise was for the bad fama lawsuit and a bill about defamation blah blah blah. Assembly Ko did keep to his promise on both occasions.

You’ll get your answer in Ep 14.

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At first, I hated Ye-seul for not fighting for herself and watched everyone rub shoulders to fight for her, (plz forgive me), but seeing all the evidence out made me shed some drops for her.
Living in an African community where men batter women just to weld their authority and women just hanged in there doing nothing but bear the pain made me feel for her the more.
That jerk of a thing should get a free one-way ride to hell and find solace there. It didn't help that his mouth was not paralyzed also.
I really felt happy hearing the final verdict and gladly hope she finds Joy in living in peace once again.

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I was quite frustrated with Ye-sul for her self-blaming and guilt. She was seating there feeling guilty, punishing herself when her abusers continued to abuse her and her friend put their everything on table to help her. I was thinking why this girl cannot see clearly that she is a victim, she should be mad at injustice being done to her. But it’s not easy to see things clearly when you are the one at centre of the storm right?
She feels that it’s her fault for other parties short coming and failure. It’s her fault for him not getting into university and that it’s her fault that he feels smaller because of her. She is being abused for so long that the abuse has become new normal for her and it’s not easy to break free.
Her story is quite true to life and actress portraying Ye-sul did terrific job.
I was not too happy with almost cartoonish portrayal of court proceedings but law school is not about technical accuracy, so I could stomach it.
Not much screen time for SolHwi and I almost laughed out at the final (Bond villain style) reveal of assembly man as final boss. Was that not obvious from the start? Was there any good assemblyman in history of K-drama land?

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That's the most damaging thing about abuse: it makes the abused feel like it's their fault.

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That’s one of the most realistic arcs of the drama. Apart from Sol A’s school life obviously.😅
You could see Sol A’s mom scribbling on the paper and even having outburst. She’s been there. She’s been a victim. I’m glad the writer wrote this part of the drama really well.

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"Was there any good assemblyman in history of K-drama land?"

I can name 3, to say the least: Jang Tae-joon, Kang Seon-yeong and Lee Seong-min.

All of them from Chief of Staff, another JTBC great drama, of 2019. Make sure you check out both 2 seasons.

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I second that

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Yeah, not so much SolHwi this week but when JoonHwi's face lit up and smiled happily as SolA leans into his shoulder while whining about her latest assignment was adorable.

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I loved that! Wanted to include a screencap but couldn't get a clear one.

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Does anyone know why they keep hiding Kang Dan's face?

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For dramatic effect, I guess. At least, would be much better than the cartoonish chair turn of Assemblyman Ko, which we all saw coming.

Nevertheless, Law School might be my best legal drama to come out of K-dramaland.

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Not sure, but I am sure on one thing: Kang Dan suppose to be twin sister of Sol A, so what would Kang Dan look like (supposedly, to say the least)?

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Kang Dan has the same face as Kang Sol A, saw it on mylist and read it somewhere on the internet.

The romantic in me wants to see if Joon Hwi would be able to distinguish between the two :D

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It's difficult enough to distinguish between A and B, not Sol and Dan? OMG, I hope Joon Hwi will be fine.

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So, identical twins, do you think? In the real world, fraternal twins are much more likely...

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Honestly, I have no idea. I am so immersed in the drama world rules that I am ready to accept anything. In episode 14 they didn't have too many study group minutes so I was a bit :(
Now they have found a way to not let the sisters meet... Which is ok but I wish they would give a more satisfactory end.

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They have written in some great characters. It is impossible not to root for them. But, some of these twists are just too, meh. Lee man ho, was very obviously forcefully installed into a drama about a law school, assuming he's there as one of the criminals, why only him? Where are the other people prosecuted by these professors ? The assemblyman has been the Big Bad for a while now, why the big reveal ? Whoever put it in seems to have forgotten that he never had a great image to begin with.

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I feel like this show thinks it's smarter than it actually is, lol. At first I was annoyed about the clunky plot twists and cliffhangers. The show is pretty good at sketching out subtle details about the characters and their relationships but the main plot is so unsubtle.... Well, at this point, I've accepted it and I am just enjoying the things that the show is good at.

That said, I was genuinely impressed with how they handled Ye-seul's storyline this week. I think they successfully addressed complicated dimensions of intimate partner violence that I have not seen readily discussed in kdramas or TV in general. The final court scenes were very emotionally satisfying and I thought it was a great choice for Ye-seul to get the chance to speak up for herself.

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I don't know if it thinks it's smarter than it is or if it was planning to be darker and more amoral than it is but changed tack. It's not unusual for poor plotting in a kdrama to be saved by tis characterisation and in this case I personally am very invested in several of these characters and that kept me watching.

I agree that Ye-seul's plotline has been particularly good and particularly poignant. It's very impressive.

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was anyone else laughing at that super dramatic chair turn by Assemblyman Go at the end of Episode 13

Ahh... yes. Yes I was. Quite a lot. I have no idea why they hit his face only to reveal that he was the antagonist we already knew he was. It was an inexplicable choice - unless the writers wanted to leave themselves open for there to be a bigger bad (and Kang Dan hinted at it to her twin at one point too... in what I now think was the next episode, whoops). I wonder if, in the original outline, there was supposed to be a different puppetmaster out there and they changed their minds. As it was, this was a ridiculous reveal.

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Who can tell?! So baffling! 😂

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highlight: professor yang spitting water at prosecutor jin and saying his bull**** made him choke. A+.

prof yang, sol A, and ye-seul are my favorite characters <3

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Yangcrates wouldn't be allowed to resign as Ye-seul's attorney right in the middle of a court session. The head judge wouldn't allow it. Not going to happen. If he'd come to work as her attorney under normal circumstances, his resignation *might* be allowed if Yangcrates submitted his resignation when court wasn't in session, but considering he was approved on special privilege (or whatever it is), he's stuck with the job until the trial is over. Ye-seul probably wouldn't be allowed to serve as her own council by the court, either, even if Yangcrates was overseeing her (reason being that 1Ls don't know much yet and she'd basically be parroting whatever he told her to do/say). The judge(s) would basically roll their eyes, throw their hands up in the air, and tell Yangcrates to stop wasting the court's time; he's her council and that's that. When court's in session, that's not the time to teach class, Yangcrates. The judges would have TOTALLY shut that crap down IRL.
*headdesk* I am 100% for kickass lawyering and wowing 'em with words, but Yangcrates has been riding on my nerves the last few episodes by kicking his razzle-dazzle up to the point he's showboating and I want him to just shut up and sit down. I am SO MUCH on board with Ye-seul accepting none of what happened is her fault. As a woman and a survivor of sexual assault, I know only too well how hard it is to report what's happened and all the questions people fling at you when you don't report right away (it took me 2.5 years) and all the excuses that are made for why harassment, assault, and abuse/rape aren't any of those things. Just wish the show had written Ye-seul reaching her realization in a way that wasn't so...unlikely to happen in reality.

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