Beanie level: Wrongly accused fugitive

Parents can be a gift for your life; they may also become so inseparable, stopping you from moving on.
I really hop Yeonsu can learn from this kid.
A tribute from Our Beloved Summer Ep.14

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    Simply looking at the Netflix playlist, seeing which movie the drama is paying tribute to, I can tell I can’t hold my tear.

    I hold that for less then 5 minutes.

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Our Beloved Summer Episode 13’s title is pretty obvious … Chae-ran even mentions this scene.

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    As of Episode 13, Woong and Yeonsu’s grandma’s scene isn’t played out. I wonder what he has heard, so motivated that he has to ask Yeonsu that question in the end, the question why she dump him all those years ago …

    But honestly, he still has fear on that night … and to face it head on is way better than put it under the rug.

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      Grandma always thought Yeonsu was the one had been abandoned so she probably told Ung how much she suffered, and then he obviously has to ask himself, if she was suffering and he was suffering, why did they break up? Specially when only a couple of days before they had done that trip to the seaside.

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        After watching Episode 14, I guess as audience we all know why Yeonsu dump Woong at the time. I guess Grandma at least feels it somehow, so as Woong (although he is “so stupid”–in his own words–that he need Yeonsu telling him to confirm).

        I guess that’s why it hurt Woong so much because he only heard the latter half of Yeonsu’s explanation. It made him think he was so unreliable.

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Woof, woof …

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This is for Our Beloved Summer Episode 12:
Ex-music producer restart his career,
Singer’s ex-girlfriend restart her life.

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I want to see you love me
I want to see you love only me

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This week my tears are like river …

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    After calming down, I would say, the final 20 minutes really break my heart. Originally I really hate those lost parents, finding real father (hope it’s not NJ’s) cliché (especially after some disaster called Her Private Life). I can’t hate this one, though.

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      I had guessed it based on his mom’s dialogue and the nightmare last week, but it still broke my heart. It really puts a different perspective on so many things.

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    This drama has gone to the right place. Please stay here.

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    😭😭😭

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Our Beloved Summer Episode 11 is paying tribute to this French film of 1989 by Andrzej Żuławski featuring a couple with terminal illness/terrible family situation. They commit suicide in the end.

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Tears that I pretended I didn’t know,
The confessions that I postponed to tomorrow…
Come to me. Put it down.
Lean on me. Take a break here.
Always I’ll be your home

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Like a tall tree on the hill, your memory was a comfortable shade for me when I rested.

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    I love you.

    It’s the only three words they need to tell each other, why is it so hard to utter?

    They both have an inability to express themselves (one is too proud to do so, another is simply hard to express in words), that’s obviously why their relationship is so difficult to maintain.

    And (again) obviously Woong really have a hard time to have that abandon feeling again and again from Yeonsu, that’s probably why he settles as just friends. However, they both have a hard time (again) to maintain just friends, and they feel insecure to go one step ahead to be lovers again.

    These questions is pretty difficult to solve, probably too difficult for the number one student in the class.

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      Spot on, three simple small words that are so so hard to utter by these two especially the number one student.

      While the ‘dating’ scene of NJ and Ung is quite cute to watch (but not dissimilar to other run-of-the-mill romances), it would always be the YS-Ung scenes that tug my heart and give me butterflies. Kim Dal-mi is so great to portray the self-inflicted pains and the confessing of her sins to grandma is a mammoth step – but more is needed to reclaim the day.

      And why, why I have to wait for another 7 days for the next two episodes.

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        It’s okay to be alone from the start, You’ll be used to it. But being alone after being with someone isn’t something I want to experience again.
        –Woong, Ep.9

        I didn’t cry for a drama for quite a long time, but this week I did twice (and watch both scenes numerous times), both because of Kim Dami being Yeonsu collapses for the fear of Woong, first thinking their kiss “is just accident”, and second thinking he will be settled to be “just friend” with her.

        The scene between NJ and Woong is more about the difficulties of facing fame (which Woong need to know more about from NJ) and how to understand oneself (which something they can explore together), but from the onset Woong has decided not to falls in love with her. I think that’s the reason why he in the end even get off the car and reject NJ’s suggestion to come to her home in an awkward and official manner. He is actually very considerate, and has already put NJ in his “just friend” category.

        But it may possibly Woong makes NJ an escape route, if she does confess her real feeling (which she still hold back, but don’t know how long she can). For Yeonsu, NJ has become a real threat. Before she wants Woong to tell her “I love you”, I guess she need to address his childhood fear of being abandoned (which for the time being, Woong still keep that to himself), because Yeonsu for now is his walking nightmare of being abandoned. She may need sometime to figure it out, let alone solving it.

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This is what I did after watching Episode 10.
#OurBelovedSummer

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“It was my fault. I was being foolish … I still have feeling for him, although I abandoned him … Telling me I was stupid and cruel … Please scold me.”
#OurBelovedSummer

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They are all over my mind now …

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The King repeatedly doing this. This is not called “romantic”, it is “sexual assault“.
(Honestly, do you need to understand the dialogue they are saying?)

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    Would you believe that the writer of the novel, PD, and the writer of this show are women? I don’t understand this kind of sick fantasy, to be honest.
    These historical figures and their love story was so rare in this era, and this is how they interpret it.

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      Just check, both PD and screenwriter are women. Not sure about the writer of the novel, but I guess it’s a man.

      Don’t underestimate the ignorance and cluelessness of East Asian audience, @kiara, for Taiwanese media I monitor the most on K-dramas, they (also, according to those media, South Korean netizens) do think it is “romantic”, and believe he shows the “power” so she “loves” him. I guess that’s why there are so many sex scandals in Taiwan and South Korea …

      My point is, a handsome guy sexual assaulting someone doesn’t make the act more “justified”·, right?

      (In case you are interested, I quitted the show in Episode 9. Now I am watching a Norwegian-Israeli drama called The Girl from Oslo, and SBS’ Our Beloved Summer, which I think it is way more romantic–I cried in the end of Episode 8)

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        The novel writer was 17 years old when she first started writing RED SLEEVE. This story is a young girl’s version of the romance between a king and his concubine.

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      It reminds me of a genre of older US romance novels (that I despise). I really have a love/hate relationship with this drama now.

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    Yeah, he repeatedly threatens to rape her, so ummmmmmmmm

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    I have’nt watched ep 14 15 but after reading everyone’s commemts I’m having hard time to continie this. From what I read the route they’re going is not wrong of the king threatning and lusting I mean it might have happened that way but they should’nt have shown this as romantic. I forgave San for holding her neck because he was young and giving the drama and San a second chance. Looks like he went in the opposite direction. The movie The Concubine did a better job in potraying the lust of the prince and how far he would go for it.

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      “The Concubine” is at the same fictional adult level as “The Frozen Flower,” don’t you think?
      So far, I think YISAN is still the closest sageuk to the actual history (political-wise). It’s long but necessary for many characters to flesh out their motivations.
      There is not much written about the women, so Deok Im was portrait as an artist, but once she became his concubine, it was all history from there. Their four years as a married couple were long and satisfying, with many episodes dedicated to their life together until she died.

      Back to RED SLEEVE, I also thought the writer was going for character growth with San’s earlier behavior, but it doesn’t seem like it.
      From his perspective, I think he was frustrated and didn’t know how to deal with it properly. He married young before he knew what love was, and he didn’t date his queen first, so no experience there, Lol. With Deok Im, he has to work hard to change her mind.
      Even with that as a possibility, it’s still questionable. Call it an attempt to find a reason that makes sense.

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        Just now completed upto ep 15. San-s behaviour and longing was good but they had to go and ruin it with the forced kiss and rape threat. And I’m not warmed fo Doek Im’s character the way she went behind the king amd I think Hong do was right she took advantage of the king’s preference for her. She may be desperate but still I did’nt like her there. Just leaving out the kiss scene and the threat scene would habe made the drama so so much better. Anyway I just started to view this as a non romance. Junho is making very thing 100 times better.

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    I started hoping she’d stab him in return.

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I know I must be cursed …

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“We made the project bearing in mind NSA agents were ordinary people too.”
(Source and my thought, please read comment)

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    Source please click here.

    If you want to tell us an NSA agent is “ordinary people”, please have at least one character (better some) as “ordinary NSA agent(s)”, then have this one “ordinary people”. Watching Netflix The Girl from Oslo (I watched 3 Norwegian dramas, two of them in Netflix, all of them good and thoughtful), there is an “ordinary people” ISIS terrorist, and the character is put in a bunch of typically terrible ISIS terrorists and show how “ordinary” he is (as of Episode 6 of the drama, he is trying to save the two kidnapping victims out from the situation).

    I gave Snowdrop 5 episodes of chances. I don’t see that. I am okay Jung Haein’s character as a North Korean Spy, because he has at least some fellow spies to compare with, not those “ordinary people” NSA spies.

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      This comment got me too. Being ordinary is almost a prerequisite for being evil imo. Is the director going to show us how this happens?

      I’m starting to think we have dislocating genre confusion in Snowdrop. I’m not sure how to explain my sense of this. It struck me during the “at home day'”. The juxtaposition of what we are shown: the dance with flocks of girls mindlessly screeching; and what we are not shown (yet): in a time when innocent students were being imprisoned and tortured in an environment fueled by Communist paranoia.

      Irrespective of that, the girls in the dorm are so boring. I keep on having to remind myself that it’s the 80s. It feels more like the 50s.

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        You know, @jorobertson, after the first 2 episodes aired, I would think the show worth the chance to clear up the water, and may think public is a bit overacted (since I don’t want to judge the show simply because the public doesn’t love it or think it’s offensive, which did happened in past shows). These word is in fact the final nail of the coffin, and I think, yes, that’s enough. The fact that we don’t see those NSA agents (other then Kangmoo and Hanna, I guess?) catching students, which is what they actually did at the time, really disturbed me. In Schindler’s List, Oskar Schindler (by Liam Neeson) is a Nazi who saved Jews no doubt, but we can’t use him for the example as “Nazis are ordinary people”, and we at least have Amon Göth (by Ralph Fiennes) to counterbalance the real fact, right?

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          I don’t want to prejudge either, so I’m still giving it a chance, although I am running out of patience. The director’s words show a lack of depth and judgement. Perhaps a shortfall in qualities that are showing up throughout. I’m so disappointed. It’s a struggle to watch.

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            I wish I have that patience to wait before I give out my final verdict, but obviously Our Beloved Summer is way more romantic and touching (My mine is now all over with Woong and Yeonsu, which had never experienced since discovering IU* in Hotel del Luna. If this happens, my mine can’t watch another drama, from South Korea or not), don’t you think?

            Can’t imagine the writer and PD are second time collaboration since SKY Castle, although the words are not from both of them. I may revisit the drama after some time, but well, my feeling is, that dormitory looks like a Disney castle (with some princesses) put in a wrong place in a wrong time (pun intended: you know where it is aired internationally).

            *Just a side note: IU is releasing a very personal EP tomorrow morning (my time), and the pre-release is mesmerizingly touching (She said, it is inspired by her shooting My Mister).

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          Disney Castle is right. I’ve watched ep 4 now and I will go on to see 5. I loved SKY Castle. It’s hard to believe it’s the same combo of director and writer. I’m hanging in there for now. I’ll report back if it gets too much for me.
          I love IU from My Mister and Hotel. So thanks for this link. I haven’t started Summer yet. One jarring note: when the friend made out he’d been tortured to look good in front of the girl. Another tone deaf moment. My curse is I’m a completionist.

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      I’ve just realised it was not the director who made that comment.

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I feel so sad for Yeonsu …

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Merry Christmas!

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The most touching part is, he knows she can’t afford to live with a person like him “living comfortably“, and try to live a serious life …
#OurBelovedSummer

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The point of no return.

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She knows nothing, yet she is the most painful casualty in this struggle.

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