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Forecasting Love and Weather: Episodes 1-2 Open Thread

Rain, hail, and cheating fiancés, oh my! Forecasting Love and Weather gets off to a dramatic start as we meet the characters in our love square and learn about their place of work. It’s likely already one of the weirdest and most uncomfortable love squares around, and we’re only two episodes in.

 
EPISODES 1-2 WEECAP

Where to start? I’m not sure how I feel about this drama yet. While watching the premiere, I’d go from enjoying a moment or a scene and thinking that I liked the drama, to disliking a scene and thinking that maybe I disliked the drama. This went on for both episodes, so we’ll have to see if the drama can win me over after another week or so with these characters. But in the meantime, here’s what our premiere was like.

To the backdrop of the weather reports and other weathery things we meet our heroine JIN HA-KYUNG (Park Min-young). She’s long been working at the Korea Meteorological Administration, at HQ, and seems to be very focused on, and serious about, her career. Except she’s also distracted, because she’s getting married soon to HAN KI-JOON (Yoon Park). He also works for the Korea Meteorological Administration, interacting with the press. And though their marriage is coming up soon, things are starting to come apart at the seams.

To start, Ha-kyung’s mom (Kim Mi-kyung, yessss) can’t stand him, and the shaman they go to doesn’t have anything good to say either. Then, little cracks in the narrative start to appear — certain wedding expenses weren’t paid for, or things they booked in advance are strangely being canceled.

Then, one rainy night, Ha-kyung catches her fiancé in the act with another woman. She’s as disgusted and horrified and heartbroken as can be expected (great acting here!), and it’s only made worse because this woman also works at the Korea Meteorological Administration: she’s CHAE YOO-JIN (Yura). Just like that, the life Ha-kyung expected to live is turned upside down.

There’s no way we can’t sympathize with Ha-kyung since the story is hers, and even though she later acknowledges that maybe she’s also at fault with the failure of their 10-year relationship, the drama doesn’t hold back an inch while making Ki-joon the sort of scoundrel that viewers should love to hate. He’s cheap, unscrupulous, and just a shameless jerk. Oh, and after canceling his marriage to Ha-kyung, promptly marries Yoo-jin instead.

As the backdrop to all of this romantic drama, there’s also lots of weather-y drama too, and though I’m sure it’s all very accurate and impressive (gosh I feel for the assistant writers that probably had to do all the research to make this weather dialogue legit), it was also kinda dull. Which is why they try to make it exciting. So in the space of the first episode, there’s not only a rogue hail storm, but severe rainfall — both not a part of the official forecast. Gasp!

There’s also a lot of other people and personalities to meet at Headquarters (as well as the many regional offices), from Ha-kyung’s boss who retires early after an on-the-job heart attack, to the other forecasters on the team.

There’s also a young upstart that works at one of the regional offices at the start — he’s LEE SHI-WOO (Song Kang), and he’s bright-eyed, bushy-tailed, and correct about every damn blip he sees on the screen. He saw the signals that both the hail and the severe rain were coming when no one else did. Annnnd he’s also connected to our love square — when the drama first opens he’s dating (and living with) Yoo-jin, though she can’t seem to stand being in his presence.

Shi-woo is clearly meant to cross paths with Ha-kyung, and while they meet briefly in Seoul in the first episode, they don’t understand their interpersonal connection until later on after Ha-kyung’s breakup.

After the horrible affair reveal, we jump forward two months to when Ha-kyung is over the initial heartbreak but still in the middle of the ugly aftermath. While I’m glad we got to skip over the worst parts, it’s clear that Ha-kyung isn’t through the woods yet. It seems like every day Ki-joon stoops to new lows, or she learns how he’s cheated her in a new way (financially, emotionally, you name it). It sucks, and so does he.

Understandably, I want to feel for Ha-kyung. Scratch that… I do feel for Ha-kyung, but she’s a pretty lifeless character so far. All the Park Min-young sparkle is buried, and I find I don’t really like a dull and serious Park Min-young much at all. Granted, this is all intentional on the drama’s part, since she’s the rigid, rule-following, data-driven, by-the-books director that needs some sunshine and intuition back in her life.

And that, of course, is where our hero Shi-woo comes in. He’s everything that Ha-kyung isn’t — impetuous, intuitive, gut-driven, happy-go-lucky — and they make (or will eventually learn that they make) the perfect pair in work and love alike.

At work, we are beginning to see hints of how well these two will complement each other (once they get over the clash of their world views). And speaking of love (or maybe just sexual attraction at this point), by the end of Episode 2, they’ve already had a drunken one-night stand.

It’s satisfying to see the narrative come together towards the end of Episode 2: we learn that Shi-woo found out that the man that broke Ha-kyung’s heart is also the one that stole his girlfriend. And then Shi-woo not only helps her out of the office awkwardness (of which there’s tons), but is there to witness Ha-kyung’s killer moment when she finally tells Ki-joon off (to an audience of office workers) and storms off like a queen.

We can tell Shi-woo likes her, but there’s so much that complicates this, not only in the story, but on screen. For the story awkwardness, they’re both two months out of bad breakups, and Ha-kyung is the new leader of Team Two, while Shi-woo is newly assigned to the same team. They go out for drinks to talk about their exes, have a couple of sakes too many, and Ha-kyung wakes up in bed with him the next morning wigging out. I guess it’s fine, and the story will have fun with this, but I expected them to take a different approach to this love line. Personally, I prefer the slow burn and tension-filled relationship over the post one-night stand awkwardness we’ll be getting instead.

But in terms of the other level of awkwardness here, it’s how these two intersect as characters and as actors. I don’t really know what Song Kang has done to make himself come off as such a happy-go-lucky nerd. He looks suuuuper young and innocent, and his passion for the weather forecast relies on this childlike energy that just radiates off of him. It’s a 180 from his character in Nevertheless (which is a good thing), but, at least right now, I can’t buy him as a viable partner for our heroine. Pair this flavor of Song Kang with a drab, unhappy Park Min-young, and I don’t know exactly what you get. Right now it’s some weird boss/noona hookup that calls to mind Witch’s Romance, but without any of the fizz and fun.

I’m at risk of sounding too negative, though, because the drama did create realistic characters, scenes that were satisfying, and some tensions that culminated quite well. It’s not that it’s a bad start, but it’s one that has me in a holding pattern, withholding judgment until I see a little bit more of where the story is actually headed.

In the meantime, I’m just going to leave a burnt offering to the drama gods to make sure that Yoon Park’s next role is one where his talents can be put to use as more than a romantic foil or love-to-hate antagonist.

 
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Haven't seen the second episode yet, however this drama did one of my least favorite tropes. that is having the male lead embarrass the female lead to show how smart he was. It is annoying and I don't like it. However PMY is one of my favs, so will check out episode 2.

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I was praying that he'd be wrong! Desperately praying. Damn the rain.

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Yes, damn the rain indeed. It is condescending and gross, sigh.

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Such a scumbag,can’t believe she wasted 10 years with that loser,good thing he removed himself from her life!
Kim Mi-kyung as her Mom is always a joy!

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That's what I never get. Why do these women always spend several years with these completely horrible characters without ever realising how bad they are? Into the Ring, Doom..., Sunbae... all had these women who never catch on to it until the cheating is thrown right in their face.

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Interesting pair of episodes! I’m always in for a Park Min-young drama. They certainly jumped into the relationship woes with her douchebag ex. I knew he was going to be a special kind of jerk with the ending of the first episode but we really get to delve into it in episode 2.

Song Kang is always hit or miss for me. I’ve really enjoyed him in some shows, and haven’t been able to finish others. I actually quite like him here as he’s playing a really smart guy that’s not a complete recluse or socially awkward.

Was real cathartic watching our FL put her ex in his place in front of everyone and the chemistry was solid once they started opening up to each other. And a one night stand so early! Alright, I wasn’t expecting that either. After episode 1 I was a little apprehensive, and thought it was an okay start. I’m still not saying it’s amazing (and has some STIFF competition, on the same day no less) but I’m feeling more optimistic after day 2.

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I think this is going to be a drop for me.

I was so annoyed with Song Kang's character by the end of Ep. 1 that I almost didn't watch Ep. 2. My big problem with these office romance dramas is always the know-it-all MALE junior whose miracle genius somehow far exceeds the female senior's expertise and experience.

Ep. 2 wasn't much better. Yoon Park's character was so extremely cringey that I kept fast-forwarding. I didn't find him particularly believable in the role either. Maybe somebody like Lee Sang-yeob would have been better?

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Don't,i don't want to hate cutie Sang yeob or think he is such a LOSER...
I do want to see Lee Sang yeob with Park Min Young now that u mentioned it...

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But Lee Sang-yeo is so good playing this petty, childish, kind of character. You want to hate him but just can't...
End up hating him with giggle fist

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Ditto. I'm still recovering from a recent viewing of 'On The Verge of Insanity'. I couldn't help but think of him while watching Yoon Park's character.

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For some reason Yoon park has such a punchable face when he plays a jerk. I feel like he was casted perfectly, though it’s such a waste for someone like him.

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I wish he will finally get the chance to be ML like Kim Jae-wook. He is wonderful as a stern senior soldier in Search.

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Wasn't he playing a kinda sleazy opportunistic soldier in Search too? I agree he deserves much better though. After You Are My Spring, I was really hoping for better for him.

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yes he is! he is kind of nailed it.

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I'm not sure who he must have pissed off, b/c there are rookies who've gotten in some high profile projects as leads in 2-3 yrs. Yet he has yet to get a sole male lead in a primetime weekday show?! It's not like he lacks looks/charm, & he has been working for a decade now. Hopefully since he switched agencies, & is now in a proper acting agency that his roles get better/he has better choices.

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Late reply! But I always thought Lee Sang-yeob had similar shades to Yoon Park both on screen and off! I believe these two are friendly in rl lol. Anyways, both have that gangly clumsy vibes in their presence/acting. That being said, I think Yoon has a bit more edge b/c I could find him believable in an action genre.

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Im confused why team dramabeans havent recap red sleeve and snowdrop? 2 of the best dramas.. please please do the recap on both of the dramas .. please

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They mini capped red sleeve and Snowdrop was really controversial, so they decided to skip recapping them.

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But why mini recapped red sleeve when it was sooo popular? But recapped the less popular dramas? Snowdrop is loved by international viewers😭.. i love both drMas and have many questions unaswered, and have been waiting dramabeans to recapped them..i thought DB will recapped everydrama.. i think after snowdrop finished, it was proven that it didnt distort history, did it?

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I think it did a little bit , but they just didn't bother to do it. I'm sorry they didn't recap it, ha.

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Team DB even gave red sleeve a 9.7 or something (very high rating), but didnt get full recap.. im grieving 😭😭

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But there was a topic for people who wanted to talk about it. I was visiting to read opinions and all. People did at the beginning but then kinda stopped.

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For snowdrop or red sleeve? Im sad like this weather forecast drama and beloved summer (the more common drama with more common plot) got recaped but not red sleeve😢.. I understand if they didnt recap snowdrop, but couldnt understand that they wont recap red sleeve. D u know any other forums that recapped red sleeve or snowdrop? Thank u🥲

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@jovie302

They can't know before which drama will be good or not. They choose by their own criterias, recapping is pretty hard.

When they saw that Red Sleeves was loved by Beanies, they opened a topic where people could talk about it. You can read the comments : https://www.dramabeans.com/2021/12/drama-hangout-the-red-sleeve-cuff/

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The first two episodes had more negatives than positives for me. I don't really like any of the characters. PMY's is the best of the lot, but she is pretty dull. It's already a tough hill to climb to make me like a Song Kang character, so making him a self-righteous weather genius didn't exactly endear him to me. The ONS was surprising but the fact that he looks SO young and she's the boss just makes it very icky for me.

I don't see the point of making Yoon Park and Yura's characters SO awful. Cheating would have been enough to make me sympathize with the leads, but the cheaters had to get married and screw around with the FL too, all without showing any remorse. It was overkill. A little nuance would have been nice. I don't want to see any more of them, but we have 14 episodes to go. Obviously the marriage will fail, but they've made them so irredeemable that it won't be believable to use them as angst for the romance later on.

The weather stuff was rather overdramatic, but it was a different setting for a drama at least. Again, I just wish they hadn't made the ML right about the rain and a 5% chance for hail though if he was so sure, it was stupid to buy a car that day.

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Hahaha that’s the first thing I thought as well, cover up the car!

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My wife and I loved it. Enough said.

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Me too. Its been fun and the chemistry on point. I watched certain scenes in ep 2 thrice too. One mans trash another mans treasure. I like it alot.

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So did my daughter and I, but then I think we viewed it more as a comedy so the over-the-top characters and situations made sense.

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Sigh. Given how much I participated in the discourse preluding the start of Forecasting Love and Weather, I was kind of obligated to give at least the first few episodes a chance. It’s safe to say I was not impressed with what I saw.

I am SO OVER this trope of the younger, know-it-all male subordinate “saving” the female lead from professional disaster. I personally don’t have a ton of work experience yet and even I have never had to be saved like that by someone working in a position below mine. I can’t imagine how humiliating it must be for older beanies here to constantly watch these so-called experienced career women embarrass themselves, only to be magically saved by some guy. That never happens in real life. I hate it. I hate it so much.

And then there is that love square. I knew this show would have to pull something monumentally stupid for us to prefer Song Kang, who looks like a literal high schooler here, over Yoon Park. However, there was no need to make him and Yura so over-the-top awful. Make them cheaters, fine. I hate infidelity in every sense of the word and cheaters are the absolute worst. So I get it, he’s an irredeemable ass. But the later harassment was just too much. Why even bother setting up a love square if two of the people involved are so indiscriminately terrible? The writer is totally gonna drag this out over the 16 episode runtime and I don’t care for it.

So yeah, not a great first impression. I unfortunately had to watch this before Twenty Five Twenty One because my friend loves Song Kang and she really wanted to watch the first two episodes with me. She loved the episodes and I just sort of nodded along so as to not break her heart. But yeah, I’ll probably end up dropping this. Watching Yoon Park be the world’s worst ex for 16 hours is not my idea of fun.

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@ladynightshade: Spot on. I just have to put you on retainer as you channel all of views!😂 And, you ARE a good friend. Fortunately, I was watching it by myself and could drop it like a hot potato.

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@dncingemma: You got lucky 😭. I love my friend, but we have very different taste in dramas 😂. So I really should’ve known better and saved myself. Your compliments for my writing are always so sweet btw, it honestly makes my day.

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@ladynightshade: I mean it genuinely as I read so much bad writing as part if my job that I rejoice in good writing whenever I come across it. I also strongly believe in well deserved praise! I hope you always remember how much pleasure your writing gives your fellow beanie!

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We all WERE your friend, I feel like. Our tastes are hard-won prizes in the bloody battle fighting a thousand k-drama tropes and problematic scenarios to find that one gem. She'll come around, hopefully. And you are a good friend!

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Oh, absolutely. God knows I’ve watched so many subpar dramas back in the days I didn’t know how to drop shows. That, and I kept hoping that it’ll miraculously prove itself to be some genius masterpiece. Our tastes are indeed hard-won.

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"I kept hoping that it’ll miraculously prove itself to be some genius masterpiece."

*tear* We were so naive, so naive! Suffered so much! *pat ourselves on our backs*

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I have a lot of work experience. As a junior I sometimes helped a boss and was able to shine doing it, but it wasn’t because they were incompetent, it was because they were busy and I stepped up. As a boss I cannot recall ever being bailed out by a junior. In many ways, it is literally my job to not let that situation happen. And I think I would remember, given how many times I lie awake at 2AM remembering something cringey I said in high school.

All to say: yeah. There are ways to make a junior character shine, but few that involve making their boss look like a fool and then expecting the boss’s character to rebound in the viewer’s mind as a competent professional later.

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Exactly. As juniors, we’ve helped out and stepped up when needed but never needed to literally do our superior’s jobs for them. If we have to do that, then they’re simply not doing their jobs. It’s frustrating to constantly see this unrealistic trope at play and what makes it worse is how gendered it is.

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Agree with everything you said. I hate cheaters, but if they had made the two cheat because of problems in their relationship, have them feel guilty, and then dealt with the fallout of everyone having to work together, it could have potentially been interesting. People can make terrible mistakes because they are unhappy or feel trapped. People cheated on can be torn between love and hate. Instead, the two are so OTT terrible that nobody should be giving them the time of day.

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I could’ve somewhat understood the love square scenario if Park Min-young and Yoon Park were regular, amicable exes who have to deal with the awkwardness of working together - while also getting into new relationships with other coworkers. Instead it’s two cheaters who seem to have it out for the person they betrayed and humiliated. Why would anyone in-world, much less viewers irl, give them any ounce of attention? The drama just shot itself in the foot here.

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@ladynightshade I certainly agree with you about the younger know it all. I do have a feeling, though that Park Min Young's character will have a chance to demonstrate her own flair for forecasting, whatever that might be (correctly warning commuters of an ice storm in July?) What I'm worried about (and unlike you and @dncingemma, who both always show great discernment in these matters, I'm going stick through the whole show...can't help myself...Park Min Young) is that after the one night stand there's going to be 6 episodes of agonizing about it by the older woman, and not the younger man.
Also, my favorite romances are those in which the context comments on the relationship in interesting ways and I just see one long, painfully obvious metaphor about the unpredictability of love--its as uncertain as the weather, you see!

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Oh, no worries, we all have battle scars to show for when, teeth-clenched, fists-curled, we suffered through the show for our gorgeous Bias.

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Am 30+ beanie and sorry to say... There are incidents like this in real life. Some younger workers can be more idealistic and helpful than seniors. It’s an exciting plot really. I love they way their relationship moves fast. I hate waiting until episode 8 for the leads to confess their feelings. It’s nice to watch shows where we see how their relationship works.

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Totally agree about Song Bang looking like a high school kid in the drama, which is, I believe, his actual age. Park Min Young has got the acting chops, but has a pretty dull character to work with....writers, give her some substance. Any romance between those two will be totally unbelievable to me. It would have been more interesting if they were to develop a great professional relationship with professional growth, while pursuing romance with other new characters. I guess it is much easier for lazy writers to rely on drama tropes.

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Have t watched it as yet as the pairing is really odd for me. Noona romances were never my thing and I guess that still stands true.

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Anybody else get a bit of Jeerisan vibe when they were showing mountain landscape and talking about a storm coming?

Unpleasant characters make (for me) an unpleasant watch. Likely drop.

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Oooh yes. I watched this drama and 25 21 and my opinions flipped between the first and second episode. 25 21 feels more coherent. But this story intrigued me a big more since it’s adult romance for once.

But you point out all the little things that makes the drama feels a little off. Is this drama based on a webtoon? It has that comic feel of the know it know ML and a downtrodden FL, plus that one night stand in the beginning of story trope.

I was very confused by the characters also. The horrible finance is usually in nice roles and it threw me off when it was revealed he is horrible. PMJ was very reserved and I couldn’t get where she was coming from or who she was. So then again it surprised me when she had that big fight. SK is like a puppy and I think the drama tried to show you when he became attracted to her. And yet for someone who was hounding his ex, it seems so quick after his relationship to like her, without any scenes showing how he suffered.

Alll these contradictions. But the premise is semi refreshing. Hoping it gets better and better.

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I don't like cheating spouse and make them tribble character as the reason for a break up in drama and to get viewer's sympathy. It shows writer lack of creativity because she/he takes the easy route.
Why she doesn't learn to stay platonic in her office relationship after her previous one went south? If she think she can't take the fallout of failed romance relationship in the office why try it twice?
This makes me doubt her ha ha

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I really like park min young. Like, really like her and she proves again that she’s one of those actresses that is such a pleasure to watch regardless of their role. I kinda like unhappy cynical PMY maybe it’s just me coz I’m used to seeing her bright side that a crabbier version is interesting to see her play, similar to Mok Hae Won.

My only problem with this drama is how messy and tangled the relationship is between the four leads. It’s like watching a car accident that I can’t look away from and for 16 episodes I don’t know how they are going to develop the second leads any further or rather make them trashier than they already are. I thought I could convince myself to get behind her and Song Kang but no, he still looks like a child next to her sorry. That last scene was just so awkward and his constant smiling is irritating to watch. The only plus points were some great character moments namely involving PMY and Yoon Park but that’s about it.

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The beginning plot reminds me of She Would Never Know/Sunbae, don't put that lipstick on. FL boyfriend cheated on her and ML helped her to move on and finally become a couple.

Don't have an intention to compare those dramas, but I still can't buying Song Kang - PMY pairing. Their age gap and their appearance not helping them either. Different with Rowoon - Won Jin Ah pairing, their 5 years age gap not too noticeable (Song Kang really looks younger than his age). I still give a chance until ep 4, hope it will get better.

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I can't help myself to compare with She Would Never Know.

I mean both are : JTBC drama, office romance, noona romance, leads cheated by their ex.

And for now, I prefer Sunbae.

The set-up in the foracasting office is pretty interesting but they made it so dramatic that it was difficult to take it seriously. I understand that Korea's meteo is complicated and they need to warn the population but twice in one episode? I mean until now, they got only weird situation. They are in front line and they can't wear clothes suitable for the weather...

The characters : In general, I'm never fond of genius in this kind of slice of life drama but no choice I guess. I was surprised that Shi-Woo took so well the separation. I mean he was a puppy in love, buying a car, etc. and just stole the bouquet (that was a weird revenge) and moved on. For Ha-Kyung is difficult to judge her character, we don't know a lot about her. She looks kinda cold with her colleagues. We didn't really see her happy neither. It's why the cheating part wasn't so emotional for me. I think she should have accepted the offer in Switzerland. It doesn't mean she's running away. She could straighten things out between her ex and her and then leave. Ten years is a long period, then working with him, an obvious jerk, living in their appartment... I think one year in another country would have been a nice break before to start again.

The second leads are kinda cliché for now. I hope they will get a background story and development.

I wasn't expecting a one night stand so soon. It wasn't really sexy, it was so sudden and the characters didn't show any sparks before to get there. The way they will handle it could be fun to watch.

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I agree that the one-night stand was out of pocket, I felt like a prude expecting a kiss at the end of the second episode and finding them in bed. There wasn't a lot leading up to that, but I hope they know how to play it from here on out.

I think the problem with Geneva was the expectation that she'd leave, like she had to make this life-altering change even though he was the one who cheated. I dislike the complication with work since she'll be in close proximity with her ex, but I also believe that you can't run away from everything. Her leaving would have given him too much importance in my mind, but I get where you're coming from about taking a break. She could have bulked up her experience in Switzerland, but the rebel in me would rather see her fight through it.

I thought of Sunbae, too! So far, Ro Woon is a better puppy.

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She definitely should have taken care of her ex before leaving. But I don't think leaving means running away, it's more a breath of fresh air in her chaotic life. She could rent her flat and make money, get new experience and come back one year later. Instead, she will pass her time to work with her douch of ex + his new wife and her one night stand puppy...

I prefered Rowoon's role. He was a new member of the team and he had to learn with great female sunbaes. He was passionate but not a genius. In a general way, I prefer Rowoon as an actor too :p

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@kurama It also doesn't hurt that it's SWITZERLAND lol, girl sign me up! I think this work atmosphere will be super uncomfortable, and in real life it wouldn't be worth the drama. It also doesn't help that the ex's wife is showing off about their "love" story while at work? That's humiliating. I definitely see why going away is the more favourable option.

Ro Woon is an absolute cutie!! I wasn't a die-hard fan for Sunbae, but Ro Woon's swooney, earnest portrayal and surprising maturity definitely gave a new meaning to the word puppy 😊

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I'm Swiss and I know where is the building of the WMO in Geneva, next to the Botanical Garden and not far from the lake with view on the Alps. I'm pretty sure there is worst than one year in Geneva :p

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@kurama Oh, the horror! lol jk, that sounds wonderful! Glad for another international viewer :D

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You know, I wasn't sure at first. I wasn't even going to check it out, but I saw twenty five twenty one on Netflix, and then I happened to see this one as well. So I thought I'd watch it while waiting for TFTO episode 2 to drop. I ended up really liking it. Added it to my watch list. Having watched the drama, the pairing works for me, and I like the story so far. Definitely sticking around for as long as it works for me.

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I really enjoyed these opening episodes and was also quite surprised at how quickly the two leads hooked up. Vile ex has been publicly humiliated, Park Min-young is standing her ground and does not run away to Switzerland (good for you, girl!). What more is to come, where is the story going?

I read that Yoon Park was not keen to take the part, because his character is so bad, but took it once he learned that there is more to it. I am curious.
I also like Song Kang's character, he is so unembarrassed, but also no fool. He does it well.

The trope I liked the least was the colleagues staying around to watch and listen to the very private row. Even if it is conducted in public, they would normally slink away, because it is embarrassing and intrusive.

I do like the weather science. Never thought about the cost of a weather warning before.

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I'm glad to hear that Yoon Park's character may have more to him than we're seeing so far. Otherwise, he's just a total scumbag and shouldn't take up any more airtime. I'm wondering if he'll end up being about as sympathetic as the cheating and lying boyfriend in "She Would Never Know." Although the writing clearly showed that guy was wrong for doing what he did to the FL, it also managed to make him more sympathetic once his (very cliched but still emotionally affecting) background story was revealed. Maybe things will follow the same route here. At the very least, they need to explain why Yoon Park would be so vengeful and mean when he's the one who did the FL wrong, not the other way around.

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Everybody already thinks that he is a jerk, he does not need to be de-masked. What would be the point of dragging that out for 14 episodes? It can only get better for him, how much I am not sure.

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In She Would Never Know, he got an interesting reedemption arc. His situation was kinda different. The FL was the "mistress" event if she didn't know and he loved her.

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Here to cheer for an out of the ordinary occupation in a Kdrama. The writing team did a great job presenting a sciency subject, especially one that impacts everyone's lives like meteorology. The know-it-all upstart ML challenged every senior he came into contact with, not just the FL.
Rather than the scenes involving forecasting challenges, I found the trope-filled love square super draggy. Hanging in for PMY!

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Isn't it interesting sometimes that when they get the science right, the creative elements are just not that good; and when they get the creative elements alright, the science behind the situations are just not that good?

This is the reason I'm sooooo addicted to GQ The Breakdown or Vanity Fair conversations with the experts regarding the subject matter of the movie. It's literally my go-to, if I want to learn about something in a more entertaining way. But I see the trend sometimes in the Hollywood...like Tenet was absolutely fascinating to learn about entropy and other cool physics stuff, but the actual movie as a creative piece of art, eh, not so much.

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Oh aye, just realized I did some "Beanie-splaining" to hubby while watching Healer . He is totally loving all the geeky glasses stuff but I have to 'splain the social interactive reality. Will be checking into the Breakdown and Vanity Fair - bet on it :)!

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1. I really wish it’s not Song Kang

2. I really wish Yoon Park would stop picking roles where he’s just an awful jerk (or murderer). But ok at least he did do Birthcare Centre, phew!

3. I liked all the “drama” from the weather/nature elements - and it just reminded me so starkly of how Jirisan totally flopped at it, but SHOULD have achieved (esp if you’ve got such a famous mountain as a backdrop, for cryin’ out loud!! Still can’t forgive that show/the writer. Lol)

4. I REALLY WISH IT’S NOT SONG KANG

That said, I liked having the bigger ensemble cast (reminded me faintly of both Diary of a Prosecutor and Hush), and might still give it a chance for a couple more eps. And please JTBC… I really hope the rest of your 2022 dramas won’t suck so badly like your 2021 slate! (So so worried for 39, please don’t screw that one up!!)

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Yoon Park was so adorkable in Birthcare Center. He needs to do more roles like that.

I actually liked quite a few of JTBC's 2021 dramas. I'm with you on Thirty Nine. I really need that to be good.

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Ooh, that’s interesting. Only Law School and Inspector Koo suited me. Sisyphus was so bad at the end. And I’m a fan of Kim Ji Suk, but Monthly Magazine Home was a terrible production.. I do know JTBC’s standout was Beyond Evil but wasn’t my cup of tea. Everything else… I didn’t really try/bother, I have to admit, just didn’t seem worth it (compared to others), haha

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@princesspreets Fingers crossed for 39 to slap, I have high hopes!

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Thank you @missvictrix for the recap; like you and many here, I'm in wait-and-see mode on this show. But I really want it to pull me in--I like both leads, and also the ensemble scenario (some of the secondary story-lines are already showing some possibilities). I'm giving it a "yes" for now. But please, writers: show us a bit more sparkle from Park Min Young, and a wee bit less from Song Kang.

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Read the recap to see if it would change my mind about watching. Nope. I'm dismayed at the concept of this capable but victimized older woman who has to be rescued by the perky young puppy. And surprised that Park Min-young went for such a role.

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First and Most important point..i want Yoon Park in a better drama in a better role.. i hate seeing him second leads or such cheap douchebag.. he deserves a better, strong roles in screen that can justify with his acting.

Seond.. i loved both episodes for how much well researched those weather forecasting discussions seem like. how much details must hv went into to make things so clear for us to know how actually temperature changes and impacts heavy rains, clouds and etc. Its such a new plot.. never seen before (at least to me).. and i was so hyped to watch this drama just to learn abt this newest found topic "weather forecast"
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epi 2 had to end with so predictable one night stand (why PMY why????).. I loved you everything you did so far.. how you took each n everything back from loser ex, how you shut him up with such swag in front of whole office.. it was soo soo refreshing... but nahh just few drinks and thats it to evaporate ur swag...

i am not sure how long ill be able to take it.. but ill keep on watching for same Weather forecasting part and FFing whatever useless things comes on screen....
disappointed with the tropes to bring leads together but Love the backdrop n main plot.

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If I was the writer I would have done the ep 2 ending different. Like they both still hurting from the hurt by their exes, so after those drinks they lett down their guard and hug each for comfort. I personally would find that more emotionally charged and also make a deeper connection between them. I mean writer could play on awkwardness after on both sides as they shared an vulnerable moment. To me it would feel more meaningful for the characters to connect over exes on a emotional level than hurry them into bed.

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I so agree!!! Maybe writers wanted us to see the characters' "irresistible" attraction, but it feels like they just took the easy way out with that "falling into bed" trope. I'd be more onboard if I saw more of the emotions behind it.

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OH, how I loved this version much much better. IDK, somehow, I find some dramas heavily rely on the bed scenes to heighten the plot, but having two (I-dont-really-know-you type) people sharing the same bed under the influence of alcohol would not be nearly the same with what it could've been with these two people sharing the hurt 'on an emotional level'.

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Agreed. Besides, the "rebound" effect is so real. I cannot imagine them not feeling like they were each other's sex-as-healing-and-liberating rebounds, and normally it's very hard to go from that to emotional vulnerability, which is required when two people fall in love. When we have sex without a lengthy courtship, we tend to overreact with coldness or at least cosmopolitan coolness to deal with awkwardness, and I'm curious to find out how the writers manage this nuanced dance.

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I apologies in advance for my shamelessness, but I ABSOLUTELY LOVE the one night stand awkwardness trope in drama (not in real life, mind you). It is my guilty pleasure! I can't wait to see how they maneuver through the rigid and obvious awkwardness and steadily fall in love through understanding and passion

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Gotta say, I loved Song Kang's little "morning after" handshake :)

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Yes, I love that trope too but I'm always worried about the execution of such a trope and later progression in the series. The best example of great execution of one-night-stand-awkwardness I witnesses was in drama in What's Up Fox, since then I have a hard time finding an intelligent execution that wouldn't make my eyes roll.

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I liked the weather forecasting scenes. In the place where I reside, reporting on rains is one of the most difficult jobs as the predictions can tilt eitherways even with the advancement of technology. So, the fact that weather reporters are a source of constant mockery is true. Also, I never knew there was a massive cost associated with a severe alert because I always thought weather warnings are needed only by fishermen and farmers, but the drama as done a good job of educating the masses about the job of weather forecasters.

I agree that as a junior, Shi Woo crossed a line when he dissed his senior, Jin Ha for neglecting the report because of her wedding, but he was not wrong in saying that his information shouldn't have been ignored. Most experienced people have an habit of dismissing the young people's views just because they lack experience and don't give them space to entertain their ideas. I think a good team is one where different opinions are discussed and a collective conclusion is formed and I think, we are going to see this play out in the drama by having the senior forecaster guide Jin Ha in her role as a Director. These scenes would have played better had they timed it correctly by showing her hesitation to inform the director about the hailstorm before she met Shi Woo.

Instead, I didn't like that Jin Ha found out the reason for the sudden cold temperature through Shi Woo's hint rather than by herself. If they were going to show that he already did an extensive research, why let the FL waste time on it. That just reduces the FL's professional credibility in the eyes of the viewers.

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I dragged my feet with this one and felt detached from the drama and its characters by the end of its first episode. The workplace presentation is so boring? Like they’re trying to sell the passion behind weather forecasting, yet it falls flat. Episode two slightly picked up with the action and pacing, but I’m not sold yet. The characters are wholly unremarkable, save for the exes who seem to have a monopoly on shamelessness. All the while Ki Joon was complaining about how hard things were for him, I scratched my head thinking that he could have easily left. There was no point in leading her on, especially since he didn't bother booking the venue or confirming the other wedding criteria. It seemed like such a cruel thing to do to your significant other weeks before the wedding and I wonder just how long it would have taken him to end things, perhaps the day of their supposed nuptials? I shudder.

I'm glad for the slap and the reality check! He really was convinced that he had majority/partial ownership, but that just goes to show the audacity of some people. I'm glad that Ha Kyung can try to be happy now, hopefully the show will shed light on why she's so morose. There’s a story to unpack, given the crumbs about her father dying unexpectedly and her subsequent untrusting nature. I’m down for a serious female lead, but she’s taken a bruising from life, and I’d like to see her heal.

Conversely, the main lead feels off to me, like he's naive and ecstatic taking pictures of clouds, but also apparently super comfortable with a one-night stand. I laughed at his nonchalance in getting up from the bed, but need time reconciling this smooth, cool as cucumber persona with the dorky guy stealing wedding bouquets, (brava btw.)

Overall, I think the bones are there and this could be an enjoyable watch, but I'm not buying the characters and their connections quite yet. I'm also not sure that there is enough content to stretch over 16 episodes, but I'd love to be proven wrong. If I had to rate the first two episodes, I'd probably give them a 5 and 6 respectively. It's always a pleasure to see Park Min Young act, and Song Kang is showing greater range since Nevertheless, but I need a bit more convincing to be completely on board.

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I am gonna give this another shot for episode 3 and 4, but this one suprisingly isn't doing it for me. I love weather and I love Park Min Young, but I was not a fan of the floundering in the first episode and I am over the typical sleaze first boyfriend. Song Kang is fine. I do think casting directors should take note of actors that can actually deliver beyond a few expressions. Then again, you have to gain experience in order to get better at your craft.

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Agree that drunk sex - just too soon. The characters need more time to develop and so does the relationship. And, drunk sex is never good sex. The kind of break-ups these two experienced would leave a pretty big wounds. Taking more time would have made it more interesting. Them testing the water so to speak I actually found the weather parts interesting. I had no idea how weather is predicted. Ice in a distant sea caused cold weather. Hopefully things will get more interesting and it will warm up.

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I watched the first two episodes of FORECASTING LOVE AND WEATHER last night so I am kind of late to the party. Thank you @missvictrix for the open thread.I have enjoyed all the comments. Here are a couple of thoughts:
1. Song Kang’s portrayal of Lee Shi-woo. If you haven’t seen it I recommend you read this Soompi article of Jan. 26 where SK explains why he accepted the role and his approach. Also his hair is cut short intentionally to make him look young. Good idea? Maybe not. If folks had read this before watching episode one I think they might have viewed his character differently.
https://www.soompi.com/article/1510213wpp/song-kang-shares-reason-for-choosing-forecasting-love-and-weather-the-charms-of-his-new-character-and-more

In the article he describes Shi-woo as
“He’s bright and optimistic, and he has pleasant energy. But when it comes to the weather, he’s more sincere and serious than anyone else.”
What I took out of Shi-woo in the first two episodes is as mentioned by
the head Ko Bong-chan a bit of immaturity (in interacting with colleagues) but more importantly he is not a mean spirited guy. As noted by another, Shi-woo was an equal opportunity criticizer. He told the guy who lost a bet to forget it. The presumably love of his life dumps him and he crashes the wedding and runs off with the bouquet with a huge smile. I am with those who did not care for the one night stand at the end of episode 2 but like @joanh, KittyKitty above I also liked the “morning after’ hand shake with a smile. It was true to form for him.

2. To give Yoon Park (Han Ki-Joon) his due there is Soompi article of Jan. 30 where he discusses his role in FL&W but it is not nearly as informative as SK’s:
https://www.soompi.com/article/1510869wpp/yoon-bak-talks-about-playing-park-min-youngs-ex-boyfriend-in-forecasting-love-and-weather

Also I am a little concerned about the length of the drama at 16 epsodes for some of the reasons mentioned in the comments.
For a moment I imagined myself as the Head honcho at JBTC calling the Head honcho at SBS saying I am cutting four episodes from FL&W and sending them to you to add to Kim Nam-gil’s THROUGH THE DARKNESS. You can return the favor someday.

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Before even being horrified about the cheating, I am confused by its pointlessness. They were both ready to split up with their long term partners anyway. He had cancelled the wedding. Him having sex with his mistress in the house and bed he shared with his partner of 10 years was wholly unnecessary, as was his mistress cheating with him right before going to split up with her boyfriend. It just seem needlessly cruel and lacking the barest shred of respect for their partners.

They were going to break things off anyway, they could have literally postponed the cheating by a few hours and split up respectfully, rather than having FL walking in on them in the bed she shared with her husband and ML being deceived (he didn't get a confrontation under the rain of his own, I don't think ML's ex gf expressed any guilt or even addressed her cheating... not that the rain scene did FL any good: what with her ex bf not feeling guilty enough to not needlessly betraying/humiliating her, and more like feeling sorry for being discovered, followed by him gaslighting and victim blaming, which she thankfully threw back in his face). But yes, the thing that stuck out to me was how needlessly cruel and pointless this all was.

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