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Not Others: Episodes 9-10

More focus on what it means to be a family this week as another relative rolls into the picture. With Dad trying to understand his place between all the women in his life, he’s forced to make some tough choices. And our killer plotline comes to a close as our two cute cops cozy up in front of the evidence.

 
EPISODES 9-10

Not Others: Episodes 9-10

We ended with a cliffhanger last week as Jin-hong entered his apartment to find Eun-mi and another woman trying to rip the hair from each other’s heads. We learn this week that the other woman is Jin-hong’s sister, PARK JI-EUN (Woo Mi-hwa) — the one who was supposed to be Eun-mi’s friend in high school before their falling out over Jin-hong. Now, they’ve picked up their beef right where they left off.

When Jin-hong is forced to choose between the two women, he tells Ji-eun not to come over without calling and tells Eun-mi that he wants to spend his life with her. (Aww, it makes me so sad that these two missed out on thirty years together.) Eun-mi, ever immature, makes faces at Ji-eun when Jin-hong chooses her over his sister.

Not Others: Episodes 9-10

But all of this leads us back to our theme about what it means to be family when Jin-hee runs into Ji-eun and learns she was Mom’s “friend” in high school. Jin-hee is well-mannered and friendly and starts calling Ji-eun “aunt,” just like she calls Mi-jung, not realizing it’s her literal aunt. Ji-eun is so impressed that Jin-hee is polite and “looks just like Jin-hong” that she takes a genuine interest in her newly discovered niece.

When Jin-hee finds out the truth about Ji-eun (after mistakenly thinking Jin-hong was cheating on her mother), she feels conflicted about how to address her. Eun-mi downplays the whole thing, telling her to just call her ahjumma, but Jin-hee is a perfectionist and wants to follow the right “rules” when it comes to addressing family. Mom and daughter have different philosophies about rule-following, and it’s obvious that Jin-hee’s desire to be a perfect rule-follower is a reaction to her mom being a constant rule-breaker.

Not Others: Episodes 9-10

Interestingly, Jin-hee doesn’t seem to have these same confused feelings about Jin-hong. Although, he’s showing signs that he wants to treat her like a daughter. He respects the fact that Eun-mi claims Jin-hee as her own (not his) since she raised her alone, but he consistently tries to show care for Jin-hee too. Every time he does, though, Eun-mi shuts it down and gets annoyed with him.

Jin-hong expresses his confusion by telling Eun-mi that they’re not strangers and they’re not family – they’re something in between (and this explains the English title, Not Others). He asks if the three can try living together, but Eun-mi vetoes that without hesitation. She wants to keep living with Jin-hee the way they always have.

Things come to a head when Jin-hee tells Eun-mi to go stay with Ahjussi for a while. Eun-mi has broken their one household rule: no bringing men home to sleep with. Jin-hee is really upset to find Jin-hong at their apartment in the morning (even though it looks like he slept in a separate room) and wants Eun-mi to stay at his place and not the other way around. Eun-mi doesn’t want to leave, prompting Jin-hee to say, “You don’t want to be uncomfortable, but you don’t care about my discomfort?” And I feel like she’s just summed up their entire relationship.

Eun-mi ends up going to Jin-hong’s spacious, way-too-big-for-one-person apartment but later in the night he wakes and she’s gone. This is especially problematic because unbeknownst to Eun-mi the killer is still on the loose and out to get her. It turns out that the guy they arrested last week was a separate stalker (their quiet neighborhood is just chock full of them apparently) and Jin-hee and Jae-won have been secretly trying to find the real culprit on their own, since the case is officially closed.

As they’re working so hard on the case, we finally get the development between Jin-hee and Jae-won that I’ve been waiting for – and the slow, slow pace has paid off. All the animosity is gone by now but it feels totally natural because we’ve seen them working together little by little. This week, they get closer (literally) as they sort through evidence on their time off, and end up leaning on each other for a nap on the bus one late night.

The scene I particularly loved that showed their closeness is one where they’re at Jae-won’s house going through CCTV footage and Jin-hee hops on the couch behind where he’s sitting on the floor. She’s going to sleep for an hour while he keeps at the computer screen and they just look so cozy and comfortable together. He covers her with a blanket, but then they both sneak peaks when the other isn’t looking. The whole thing feels really organic and while I thought nothing was happening these past few weeks, now I understand the choice to keep this in the background simmering until the right moment.

We end this week with a much bigger cliffhanger when Eun-mi is stabbed in the stomach and left for dead. Gulp. We learn that the real killer is an acquaintance of Eun-mi and Jin-hee who works at the internet café near their apartment. I saw this coming since about Week 2 with his backward cap and big smile, but Eun-mi did not suspect a thing. She thinks nothing of it when she follows this friendly face down a deserted alley and into an abandoned basement.

At the same time, Jin-hee and Jae-won have learned that all their colleagues at the police station had figured out what they were up to and secretly gone about helping them. When everyone puts their findings together and they start working as a team, they solve the case and are hot on the killer’s trail by the time he attacks Eun-mi. They catch him as he’s running away from the crime scene, but find Eun-mi inside in bad condition.

At the hospital, Eun-mi is rushed to emergency surgery as Jin-hee and Jin-hong cry outside the door. We see images of Eun-mi’s life, as if it’s flashing before her eyes, as she grows up with an abusive father, meets Jin-hong and falls in love, finds family in Mi-jung, and finally lives with Jin-hee all these years – with arguments and mistakes but also love and devotion. It looks like a tear is forming in her eye and we end not knowing how she’ll fare.

Not Others: Episodes 9-10

I continue to like this drama and I was surprised by two things this week. First, the killer plotline ended up serving the story nicely. It’s used to bring Jin-hee and Jae-won closer together and also to reaffirm their family-like relationship with their police team. And it also gives us a cliffhanger with Eun-mi in a hospital bed while Jin-hee and Jin-hong are waiting outside. With Mom out for the count (for the moment), these two might actually have a chance to see how they really feel about each other without her interference. As much as I find killer-on-the-loose storylines contrived, it’s at least a good use of the contrivance when it serves multiple functions at once. Here, it ended up forcing the story where it needed to go on at least three different threads. Plus, I like these characters so much that I’m willing to overlook a lot.

The second thing that surprised me was how well it worked to keep Jin-hee and Jae-won in the background and then subtly cinch them together. It had been feeling to me like the show forgot about them as we dealt with Mom and Dad and I wasn’t sure if it their story would go anywhere at all. But it came off so natural this week that I wondered why I even questioned it.

I also really like that we’re keeping with the central questions about family. What does it mean to be family? Is it about blood? Or the people who have been there for you when you needed them? Jin-hong says, “You can’t be entitled just because you share blood.” He and Jin-hee are walking a delicate line and there aren’t any rules of proper conduct – they have to make them up as they go along. With most of the threads tied up this week, I’m eager to see how dad and daughter will get along, and whether or not our trio can move forward in a way that will make them “not others” anymore.

 
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I get the feeing that the writers imagine Eun Mi comes across as feisty, independent but loving and considerate, but, and this may just be me, she comes across as entitled and selfish, being attacked by a murderous thug notwithstanding. All I could think was, oh no, people are going to grovel at her even more
The part timer! Someone called it.
Slow as it is, I was glad to see some progress in Jae Won and Jin Hee’s relationship

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It's not just you, lol. Many of us, including me, find Eun Mi to be entitled and selfish, not to mention emotionally manipulative and sometimes quite cruel, even if we understand what the writers are trying to accomplish with her characterization.

I predicted the part timer, but even confirming that belief wasn't enough of a draw for me to get through these episodes without liberal use of the ff button. I also flat-out don't like the fact that this whole serial killer plot is about people worrying about and expressing their deep love to Eun-mi. Because I don't like her character, this is resonating with me not at all.

Even though I've complained about Eun-mi for the past several weeks, I didn't expect to not be able to still enjoy the show at least somewhat. But the minute I clicked play and adult Eun-mi appeared on screen I had a visceral negative reaction to her that I couldn't shake. I no longer care what happens to her which is a real drag because she's definitely the main protagonist of the story.

I agree with those who said the careful pace of Jin-hee and Jae-won's love story makes it more realistic and believable, but I couldn't help myself from wishing that the writers had swapped the two main romantic arcs and spent this much time and care in building up Eun-mi and Jin-hong's story--not so much because I care about them (I really don't right now) but because I wish we could have seen more of Jin-hee and Jae-won in a more overt romantic relationship. To me, although Eun-mi and Jin-hong's should be the richer, more complex story, the characterization of Eun-mi and her lack of growth hamstrung it from the beginning, and now watching this relationship unfold isn't satisfying to me at all. Meanwhile, I'm swooning over every second that Jin-hee and Jae-won tiptoe towards each other.

I want a re-do of this show with a more balanced characterization of Eun-mi, and Jin-hee and Jae-won at the center.

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You spoke my mind omg

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Everything you just said. Eun-mi isn't even a "love to hate her" character, she's just exhausting.

I am really enjoying this, although I wonder how much of my enjoyment is the respite it provided from the disappointing last couple of weeks of Another Show That Shall Not Be Named. Jae-won's first big smile made up for a lot of annoyance.

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Omigosh definitely not just you. I caught myself on at least two separate scenes thinking "Gosh Jin Hong deserves better" and at one point I sympathized more with Jin Hong's sister (Even though the sister needs to mind her own business and not overstep boundaries). We're supposed to believe that Eun Mi's reason for restricting interactions between Jin Hong and her daughter is because she is protective of her daughter but it mostly comes across as plain selfishness and perhaps jealousy. Why would she let him stay over when they have a promise not to do exactly that? She didn't even have the decency to at least appear apologetic the next day. And what's with the faces she keeps making at the aunt? Ya, she doesn't have to gain acceptance from the aunt, especially after the way she was treated by that family in the past but it's still his family. She's making things unnecessarily difficult for Jin Hong while he's bending over backwards to make her happy. Just UGH.

Please let us see more of the younger couple next week.

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I really liked the title of Ep. 9 - 이모와 고모 사이 (between a maternal aunt and paternal aunt). Since Korean has specific terms differentiating the two terms, it brings out the conflict in Ji-eun's heart perfectly.

Also appreciated Jin-hong more after this episode. Till now I thought the distance between Jin-hong and Jin-hee felt a bit unnatural but this episode brought out how forcing a relationship between virtual strangers is actually more unnatural.

Jin-hee/Jae-won's growing friendship/intimacy on the other hand feels so natural and right. I think the show's done a really good job showing how well they fit together. Also just generally they make me squeeee 🥰😆.

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I grin like an idiot every time these two are together. Even them sitting on the same side of the bench makes me go screeeeeee!!!
He doesn’t frown anymore when she waits for him in front of his house. He asks her if he should walk her home. Squeeeeee.
Can we please get a kiss. Please show. Please.

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🤝 on grinning like an idiot 🤣. I'm convinced that with the current rate of progress we might not get a kiss. It's fine - I'll comfort myself by replaying the scene where she makes him laugh a few more times 😅.

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Jin-Hee is really stupid, she shouldn't have hidden the truth about the killer to her mum. She put her in more danger. But in a general way, I would have prefered simple police stories than a big one like this.

Eun-Mi always was the only family to her daughter and now she needs to accept that her daughter could need other people like an aunt. They really need to communicate better.

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Eun Mi is clearly emotionally stunted and immature, which makes sense if you consider her upbringing and the fact that she was a teen mom.

The drama could have done a better job in helping her realise this and at least place her on a path where she tries to connect with the people around in a healthier manner.

Instead we get gags, which are funny admittedly but make the drama feel shallow.

They also did Park Sung-hoon so dirty, he is leading man material!!!!! if people watched "Into the ring" (2020) they would realise this !!!

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Yes I’m with you! Justice for Park Sung-hoon! I think INTO THE RING ruined us all! What a fantastic drama ❤️

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I’m highkey more frustrated that Jae-won and Jin-hee haven’t kissed yet than the ending of a certain drama. These two have such seamless chemistry and I watch their scenes multiple times. Yes this is very unfeminist of me but they are the sole reason I am watching this show. Now I want a season two with way more Jae-won and Jin-hee and waaay less Eun-mi

There are pet peeves I have with this show that don’t include Eun-mi’s antics but I don’t wanna be a buzzkill. I’m trying to enjoy this drama without overthinking

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Even though I would have liked to have had more scenes with Jin-hee and Jae-won from the beginning, I find the pace of the development of their relationship very fitting and natural. With each episode you could see a little progress. While I was sure relatively early on with Jae-won that he had feelings for Jin-hee, you can now see with her too that he is more than a colleague and superior whose approval is important to her.

If Jin-hee decides not to go back to headquarters, one reason will certainly be her colleagues. They are a great team. I had to laugh out loud how they celebrated Cha Soon-chul getting beaten up.

I really like the soundtrack. I usually don't pay much attention to the music, but the song at the end of episode 10 got under my skin and was well staged.

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That song is fabulous. I started looking for it right away with no luck - I don't know if it's an OST or an older song they're using.

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As always, thank you @dramaddicttally for the recap; your analysis is superior!
While Eun Mi and Jin Hong still puzzles me, I have to admit, there are many kinds of people, and I have to respect that even when I disagree with most of their actions.
At this point, I don't expect much from Jae Won and Jin Hee anymore. But that doesn't stop me from loving their relationship.

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Thanks, @dramaddictally, for this recap. These three are finding themselves in a situation where 'there aren’t any rules of proper conduct – they have to make them up as they go along'. And they struggle in their own unique way with it.

There are two layers to this. First the relationship between mother and daughter. They are extremely close and depend on each other, I would even say, cling onto each other. Jin-hee at over 30 years old has not left the nest. Should this go on forever? Only the threat to her mother's safety forces Jin-hee to separate from her mother, with Eun-mi protesting strongly against this separation.

The other layer is the family relationship. Family does not only mean love, but also control, shown nicely with Jin-hong's sister. The seemingly kind gesture of giving Jin-hee a little spending money is really her way of trying to establish a controlling influence over her niece. Wait, until Jin-hong's parents want to have their share of control!

Jin-hong, thoughtful as always, knows that he cannot be a controlling father, but what kind of father he can be is not clear either. It depends very much on Jin-hee and she does not know either, but I have every hope that they will learn to trust each other and form their own unique father-daughter link.

Eun-mi is the least capable of the three to find a way forward. She likes Jin-hong, but she will not allow him to come between her and her daughter and hides her struggle with her silly, childish behaviour. The attacker met her when he was out on the street at night, clearly pondering the situation and showing her discomfort at staying at Jin-hong's place.

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Eun Jae-won has such an endearing smile or is it laugh. Surprisingly, I prefer his restrained smile/emotions more.

I was prepared to not like Ji Eun. But somehow I'm surprised by the lack of bad blood angst amongst the trio ladies. They acknowledged that Ji Eun was super awful and she (Ji Eun) didn't fight it either even though she defended her stance. Not Others warmed me up for some drama and decided to turn things around to do things differently. I didn't expect this but in hindsight it makes the most perfect sense. I don't know if Ji Eun got credits in your books for this but she did in mine as I saw her disposition towards Jin-hee.

I'm glad that the serial killer trope didn't hover around the entire plot. It's one little part of the story that is given attention a few frames each week.

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Yes, eventhough adult Ji Eun was introduced so late in the game, I started liking her as soon as she showed soft spot for Jin Hee. Her stealing Jin Hee's photo from Mi Jung was cute.

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I should watch two ending episodes to say this ,but I can't stop myself expressing my feeling about some forgotten characters. People in clinic (Specially the clinic manager who is a very famous actor), the three grandmas and Jin-hee's childhood friend Jin-soo.
And while we don't get enough of Jin-hee and Jae-won, we have a lot of murder mystery, teen pregnant character and in the ending episodes we'll have Jin-hong's parents!
The writers should have stayed on the main point or could get more episodes.
I didn't expect I would be disappointed in this drama.

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I really liked these two episodes. I felt I could relate to the characters much better. Eun Mi and Jin Hee have lived their lives solely relying on each other to a point that’s stifling and limiting their own growth. They both need to welcome others into their lives if they want to grow and be happy.
I quite liked Jin Hong this episode too.
Also the aunts reaction was so amusing. I have seen countless incidents where people hate the adults but just melt when children are involved. Her wanting to give her pocket money was cute.

And Jae Won and Jin Hee have my whole heart. Their bus ride was just so adorable. I love how he is warming up to her and she is seeing him in a new light. If they don’t kiss before episode 12, I will be mad flipping a few tables.

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I really enjoy these episodes, but they showed that Jin Hee has relied on herself and her mom so much, that she doesn't realize that other might people might want to love and know her. She seems constantly surprised that her father and aunt want to know who she is, absent her mother. It is clearly a coping mechanism because she is understandably scared of rejection. That being said her father clearly wants to get to know her and so does her aunt, she needs to know that it is okay to reciprocate that and Eun Mi needs to tell her daughter it is okay. Eun Mi's biggest problem is her selfishness as it pertains to both herself and her daughter. Her stunted growth makes her say Jin Hee is mine all mine without thinking that her daughter also wants and possibly needs more than her. This leads her to pretend disassociation between Jin Hong and Jin Hee, which is silly and harmful in the long run. I believe this is a 12 episoder, so this will not be resolved, but it would have been nice if the writer delved into that.

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@dramaddictally Thanks for explaining the title "Not others" as I missed the context. By any chance have you read the webtoon which included the reference or was it purely your artistic insight?

I loved, loved the police squad this week. I expected some lame jokes about "office dating", but the drama pulled one over me with their incredible teamwork, but I did not know why they never knew that Jin Hee's mom was involved with the murder case when she was clearly interviewed in their station by Jae Won on the day she and Mi Jung brought food for them.

The next surprise was Aunt Ji Eun who took an instant liking to Jin Hee and although she was curious about her, she respected Jin Hee's awkward feelings and stayed within the boundaries. The Emo/Gomo was a good korean lesson for me and this is another reason why I love this drama.

I think, I am in the minority with the Jin Hee/Jae won relationship because I simply do not care that they got sidelined to focus on the mother/daughter and once-missing-but-now-available father. To be honest, had this drama focused more on Soo Young/Sung Hoon pair, I wouldn't be invested in the drama as I don't see anything unique about their relationship which no other Kdrama has tried before in the past.

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Ditto on the police squad feint. That was unexpected and enjoyable.

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The interview thing was confusing too. I think Jae-won conducted the interview so maybe the others didn't realize that Kim Eun-mi was Jin-hee's mom.

I also loved how the police squad surprised us with concluding that Jin-hee and Jae-won were working on the case and then did all this work to help them. It was the second time they surprised us with how efficiently and effectively they work when JIn-hee isn't looking.

I'm also more into the mother/daughter relationship and how they navigate this new boyfriend who also happens to be Jin-hee's dad coming into their lives. It's a relationship you don't see brought to the foreground in your average 16 episode dramas. I think this drama has the perfect amount of the Jin-hee/Jae-won scenes right now to let the relationship just slow-burn. I feel like if they introduce more scenes, we'd end up with some love square and have the usual misunderstandings.

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Eek! I'm very late on replying! Just wanted to say I never read the webtoon. It's just what I drew from my viewing of the episodes.

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It is a relief to know that I am not the only one who struggles with Eun Mi's characterisation, particularly the effect she seems to have on Jin-hee. Jin-hee comes across as fairly level-headed and sensible until it comes to do with anything regarding her mother. At those times she becomes hysterical and irrational. I can't decide if this is linked to her childhood traumas in their relationship or if it's meant to indicate close family ties.

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I have zero kids, but Jin-hee makes me want to have a daughter just like her. No wonder Auntie Ji-eun was impressed.

Jin-hong's passive nature annoys me sometimes, but I love how he consistently doesn't try to claim Jin-hee as his. He recognizes and respects that Eun-mi has raised her without him. The title of father...being considered family..that is something you earn. When Ji-eun was all like "how can you be family if you don't share a drop a blood?", I loved Eun-mi's comeback that "Then your husband and you were strangers once too!" Such a good point! If blood is required, then spouses aren't technically family.

I'm one of the few who isn't too annoyed with Eun-mi. I'm mostly annoyed when she's bossing Jin-hong around, but he's also so passive that he sort of needs someone to tell him what to do. I would never want to live with her, but I really like her interactions with Jin-hee and how they show the frustrating tension that sometimes crop up between family members. Maybe it's just me, but as my friends and I got into our 30s, we end up more like the moms to our parents.

Loved the twist with the police squad not only NOT assuming that there was an illicit office romance going on, but also knowing that Jin-hee and Jae-won were working on the murder case and helping out behind the scenes! I know folks are itching for more Jin-hee and Jae-won, but I really like having their relationship be a slow burn in the background. They're just so cute. I think Jae-won has already fallen for her during their academy days. Sounded like Jin-hee was infamous back then.

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I love this show. I almost forgot to watch the 10th episode, and it was so very good. I think some of us are spoiled by the perfect moms we see on TV, especially Korean TV. An immature mom who is trying hard to do the right thing, that's real life, baby. You never know how immature you really are until you have to guide someone else to emotional maturity, and this character has so much going against her. Yet she came out so loving and caring in the end. How did the killer trick her into walking down a dark alley? He told her that someone needed her help. How did he goad her into fighting him? By telling her that he killed his girlfriend.

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Sorry, hand slipped! I just want to say that Eun Mi is a good mom and a really rich character in this show. All k-dramas have these great casts of experienced actors that we see working hard to realize every script, no matter how cheesy. Here they are working with some compelling material and they're really doing great with it. The cop characters too, they make them individual and sympathetic even as they show them as supporting characters in relationship. It's very impressive.

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Thank you for the recap! It was a little hard for me to get through the episodes this week, although I ended up enjoying them more than last week's. Jae-won and Jin-hee's slow burn relationship moving up a notch helped! I didn't enjoy the police stuff that much, but I can respect the weight it pulled in having them spend more time together

I didn't love Eun-mi's high-school drama replaying on grown adults, but then they started digging in on that what-makes-a-family theme which I really loved. I don't know if they'll go this far, but it makes me wonder if Ji-eun would be as interested in forming a relationship with Jin-hee if she didn't take after her father as much. She seems genuinely interested in Jin-hee but admittedly it kind of helps when Jin-hee is pretty much a perfect niece

Anyways, I'm assuming that Eun-mi's fine but maybe out of commission for a bit? Heading into the final episodes, I wonder if we're going to get much development in Jin-hee and Ji-hong's relationship

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"Not Others" offers a fresh perspective on family dynamics, combining comedic role reversals, historical feuds, and unconventional family structures. So far, it has incorporated suspense with its killer plot line, intertwining the lives of its characters in meaningful ways and redefining relationships. There also is that subtle romance bloom; the two police are cute, aren't they? I am thoroughly enjoying this series and its quirks.

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I really like episode 9 especially the fights between Eun Mi and Ji Eun even though it's been 30 years and they are almost 50 with children of their own they still fight like little kids. It was also nice to see the whole station come together to help Jin Hee and Jae Won solve the case they have come a long way since the first episode ( highlight was them finding the dash cam video never thought I would see people so happy at watching their colleague getting beat up ).

I really like how Ji Eun takes such a liking to Jin Hee after meeting her, so much so that she even steals Mi Jung's picture of Jin Hee. Nice to see Jin Hee's circle of people grow as time goes on.

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