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Missing Crown Prince (Drama Hangout)

Welcome to the Drama Hangout for MBN’s sageuk Missing Crown Prince, where Suho gets kidnapped by Hong Ye-ji, and romance + politics are in store.

This is your place to chat about the drama as it airs. You can also check out our First Impressions.


Beware of spoilers! This thread is for discussing the entire series.

 
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I watched episode 1 and I liked it. I'm just curious how this story will develop. For now, I don't rate the acting or any other aspects. I'm curious what will happen to these characters.

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My curiosity won over. So, here I am. I am still midway into episode 2 but came because I had something to say.
I love the idea of strong-willed heroines who try to beat the societal constrictions of that patriarchal era, but here the female lead is both stereotypical and annoying. Case in point: how she lifted her skirt to fight off the thugs and kept cursing at the patient who didn't stop drinking felt off-putting and over the top.
Now, when she sobered up and found out about her father's plot, she didn't stop for a second to think about what might happen to her family if she ran away from home in this situation.
Granted, she didn't know he was the crown prince yet. But changing into her servant's clothes and fleeing without a plan might not be the most reasonable thing to do. To me, she isn't brave, but reckless.
Will be back after finishing ep 2.

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I am back. Other than the young cast, the story is interesting and the fast pace makes it more captivating. The dowager already knows CP is aware of the affair and she gives the king an ultimatum, give on the throne and protect your son or have your son murdered. And unsurprisingly, he chose the latter.
Now, CP probably will get saved by FL and they will fall in love unaware of their real identities. It is safe to say the writing won me over so I be checking in next week.

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"here the female lead is both stereotypical and annoying"
This is why I dropped it. Exactly after she single handed 8-10 guys and then proceeded to have a drinking contest with one of them. Too much forced modern time feminism that has become the norm and so boring lately, but done in a "in your face" way in a time that historically could not have happen.

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I want to watch a drama featuring women truly of that era with everything it would entail. A perfect example of this is Lady Park from The Matchmakers. She was a woman of that era but didn't let the societal constrictions confine her.

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To me it is more pro-feminism to just show more realistic how those times were. Because it was so bad for women that you cannot not feel it. But when you have these fighting know it all heroines it turns it into a caricature show that makes me turn away instantly.

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Totally agreed.

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I agree with you when it's a show that's meant to be a fairly accurate representation of life in a particular historical period and place. (That goes for other behaviors and sensibilities that are wildly inaccurate from a historical point of view.) But I'm fine with women acting anachronistically in fantasy sageuks like Mr. Queen, where the cultural disconnect is the whole point.

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Agree with you totally on Mr. Queen, he was a man traped in a woman's body after all and was acting like a man. It would have been weird to act like a woman. I enjoyed Mr. Queen quite a lot.
When it comes to other fusion sages, it depends on how much they stretch the "message", I can take a reasonable amount but my patience snaps when they go to the extreme, specially within the first half an hour of the first episode.

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@babylilo
I am sorry, forgot to tag you in my previous message.

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mmh.. that's something I have noticed in some historical dramas, they stretch the female lead with modern feminism or they create situations that, even though this is fiction, that would never have happened. so lets see how it progresses.

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Anyone have an idea when this is supposed to take place? I cannot find any actual King HaeJong in the list of kings. Wondering how this is related in time to Bossam: Steal the Fate, same screenwriters.

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I think both dramas happen in fictional eras.

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Bossam is during Gwanghae's time, with fictional and real characters mixed up.

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At the beginning of the drama there is information that it is a fictional plot and has no connection with any historical events, people or institutions. This fictionality is more visible in this drama than in other "historical" ones. The characters' behavior is often too modern, such situations could never happen. What happens in the royal court is especially different from other costume dramas. I don't know of any drama in which the king was so dependent on the palace servants siding with the queen dowager. After all, he has a guard and an army. Are they against him too? It's quite impossible. In this type of drama, there are always opposing political groups.

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No acting skills can overcome this heavy handed, clumpy, un-nuanced writing, especially for the FL character. A young girl out-drinking a group of older man, well used to alcohol - this is a farce too far. I may watch ep2, but it is likely a drop for me.

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I'm really liking this so far, although I'm somewhat skeptical that it's sustainable over 20 episodes. My take is that they're going for an off-center style that is deliberately trying to create viewer dissonance "Is it a drama? Is it a comedy? Is it a romance? Is it fusion? What IS it?" The vibe overall is a bit campy, a bit tongue-in-cheek, a bit daring. The cinematography takes cues from old Hollywood and there are nods and winks a-plenty to other k-dramas. Most of the time it works, but sometimes it's clunky. Characters aren't likely to conform to preconceived ideas we have about them or their counterparts in other sageuk. Without watching for a bit longer, it's hard to say whether the choice of greener leads was a good one. Perhaps the director wanted actors he could mold into a specific style. Bottom line is that this production is not likely to satisfy sageuk purists nor fusion sageuk romcom lovers. Very risky indeed, but my curiosity has been piqued and I'm definitely interested in watching more.

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I agree with others that as a historical drama there are a lot of fairly implausible elements, most notably in the female leads activities. For a starter, I can't imagine a royal physician's daughter ever actually marrying a CP; doctors, even royal physicians, were not considered nobles, and even though while some were promoted quite high in the system, it was invariably highly controversial. But let's assume that he really was a high ranking noble who had somehow managed to survive the social stigma for his class of taking a technical job, his daughter's behaviour would clearly have been regarded as utterly scandalous, and there is no way she could ever have passed the selection process for a CP.

So its kind of odd that they seem to be going for some authenticity in speech modes etc.

But despite all that, have to say that so far at least I'm enjoying it nonetheless.

The leads are all given quite interesting characters, and the plot looks to have some interesting twists (and I'm not sure how implausible some of the court context is - while its all a bit exaggerated, there were some Joseon kings who were pretty much prisoners of elements of the court, and some dowagers who controlled everything).

Worth giving a few more episodes to at least.

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I've given Missing Crown Prince the 4-episode trial and the verdict is in: I'm going to keep going. It's not perfect, it definitely doesn't seem to appeal to most people, but I'm entertained, amused, and appreciating all the little details that make this an unusual sageuk watch. I really hope this doesn't go the way of Love Song for Illusion. 😵‍💫

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I am glad you like it. And fingers crossed it doesn't turn like Love Song. For me, I haven't had time to watch this week's episodes yet but I will try to catch up.

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Please post your thoughts after you watch!

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Sure. Will do.

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Just watched ep 3-4, the writing is addictive, and the story keeps me interested enough to turn my eye away from the green cast. Best of all is the fast pace, I didn't think the royal physician would admit to the affair this fast. But I am glad it is out of the way. Excited about next week's episodes.

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I'm more or less caught up (with heavy fast-forwarding). The leads have good chemistry, but there's more politics than I was expecting or hoping for. I thought if the crown prince was missing, he'd be on the run outside the palace and then we'd get the romance and fish-out-of-water comedy. Yes, we've had some of that, but he also keeps getting captured and the melodramatic elements are dominating.

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I can't keep record of how many times he got captured and escaped this week alone. But it is kinga getting boring with the back and forth.

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