Did anyone else come across a video Sung Hoon speaking in English about PMR & regretting all his life choices? Was it the Viki Cafe event Beanies mentioned? It popped on my feed but I can’t find it

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    the 2 mins I saw did made me smile. The absolute look of despair on Sung Hoon’s face was priceless.

    I was about to rant about the fact that there event was built around Sung Hoon speaking English (which, by the way, he probably can do better than me trying to order kimchi jjigae at my local Korean restaurant) because essentially… why should Korean people have to speak my language when I am the one who chose to watch K dramas in the first place? I’m able to read subtitles. Just record the interview ahead of time and use subs.

    This also reminds me of another video that popped on my social media feeds a while back. It was Lee Dong-wook doing promotion work in Switzerland, and someone shouting “Oppa saranghae!” … to which Dong-wook-sshi replied “yo” and carried on with the promotional posing and autographs signing.
    Because, fuck it, if you’re going to confess your undying love to your South Korean oppa, use the proper honourifics. And I laugh each time I think about that video.
    I can’t help but imagine the poor Swiss girl who went through the efforts of learning two words on top of the probably 3 other languages she has to juggle with every day and being desperate to show up for her favourite Korean actor. This may be Switzerland, but we are not all about cheese here, some of us know you, oppa, and love your work.
    And there he goes, correcting her grammar.
    Please, someone hand Lee Dong-wook the award of Most Hilarious Encounter.

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      I have watched neither of them, but just the description of second made me laugh. Lee Dong-Wook might be hilarious, but you are a good story-teller. Props to you 👍

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        I’ll have to hunt both videos down on social media and bring them to Dramabeans lol

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          Yes please do!! Thank you in advance 🙂

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          Ah ha! I found the Switzerland clip:
          https://www.tiktok.com/@kfangiirl/video/7274923094316289285?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc&web_id=7280507157946107424

          The mix of language in the background is so cool though.

          @claire2009 @anne18 @attiton @ceciliedk @bbstl @bebeswtz @mayhemf

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            Thank you, thank you, thank you, Cecee 🤩🤩 It is hilarious 😂😆

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            WHAAAT Tiktok is BANNED in my country! 😛 Thank you for your effort anyway @darkcc . Your commentary didn’t let me miss anything 🙂

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            @anne18 I’ll see if I can make the video visible. Give me a moment and I’ll see if I can download & upload it elsewhere for you.

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            I mean, that was firm but polite, and he gave her the whole verb phrase back. I’m still on his side on this one… 🙂

            He’s not even one of my oppas (by a mile)!

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            You know what @darkcc and @attiton, I totally understand WHY he insisted on that! Because in my first language (which is not English), there happen to be similar levels of casual/ formal honorifics/ pronouns/ verb endings. So I, like LDW, would be very shocked if some stranger happened to address me with a non-formal pronoun. I totally get the guys emotions!

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            I haven’t yet found a way to download that video as the author didn’t authorise it. So I’ll look around if it’s available elsewhere for @anne18.

            However, I’d like to describe the few seconds after the correction for you where he tells her in his best matter-of-fact tone that otherwise her pronunciation is very good.

            This reminds me of all those reality tv shows with tiny kids he did. When unsure, revert to samchon mode and roll with it.

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            @darkcc samchon 😂 reminded me of a video of rowoon (where he was just at the receiving end, unfortunately for the poor guy).
            https://youtube.com/shorts/P4nKioExCm0?feature=shared

            @attiton might also be interested, being an important member of Roswooning club. So I tagged you as well!

            Ah and Cecee, don’t bother really with the video if you can’t find it 😅. I totally get the samchon tone 😂. I have seen other Korean celebrities do it with International fans. It’s like it’s MY language, so I have the right to PROUDLY give you the feedback! Hahaha.. Btw I’m proud of my language too, but I doubt I’d ever samchon anyone🤣 coz you have to have that extra celebrity entitlement

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            @anne18

            I’ve made a copy of the video here: I won’t leave it up forever because I do have some semblance of copyright ethics somewhere deep in my heart, but if you want to keep it…you know how!

            https://imgur.com/a/39N3RPW

            PS: My absolute favorite part of this is the fact that, when he leaves, the same chorus of voices shouts, “saranghae!!!” at him again…no YO. Y’all, he just TOLD you how to say that politely to him!!! 🤣

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            Hahaha. Now, I think something very different about this, @darkcc @atttiton ! That was a very natural response! That doesn’t sound like entitlement, and not very Samchon either 🤣. He wasn’t even thinking! And she took it so cheerfully – this automatic reflex of correcting his beloved language a.k.a. the soft samchoning 🤣 (Yet didn’t learn her lesson, like you said 😅). But you know who was the other Samchoning oppa I watched a video of? Kim Seon-ho 😅. Too bad, I can’t find the video. Not that it was as special. It was just the Samchon tone Cecee talked about.

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          Oh I tagged you wrongly @attiton . I’m having problem with them showing up, so I rely on my poor memory these days 😅. You can now remove the video.

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        HA was LDW speaking reflexively to correct her, or kind of clutching his pearls and reacting as “excuse me, we are not that familiar!” Funny either way.

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          I imagine that it’s both?? He’s hilarious without even trying, and maybe he also thought it was weird and by adding the honorifics in for the fan, it was his way of creating distance. Drawing and setting a boundary between celeb & fan, because maybe he thinks fans declaring their “love” for their celeb bias’ is awkward/weird, etc.

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          I’ve got the image of him clutching a huge pearl necklace now with an outraged expression “we are not that familiar” and this cracks me up forever!

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      1) Not a Korean speaker, at first, I thought you meant he said “Yo!”
      2) He is not alone 😉

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        I mean, that’s hilarious, but also…what an asshole!

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          This is probably the best response one can give to keep rabid fans at bay. However nice it might be to have people complimenting you all the time, I can imagine you’d need some clear boundaries. At the same point, what do I know? People don’t scream “Cecee oppa, saranghae” wherever I go (I’d be fucking surprised if they started calling me oppa, but hey, take the compliments you can get and don’t complain, right?) so I can’t relate!

          But yes, that strict little -yo just cracks me up. Love me with honourifics, bi-a-tch!

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            I have WAY more empathy for Lee Dong-wook than Harry Styles here. To LDW, that fan sounded super rude, for Harry to correct your to you’re–he’s just being a grammar schoolmarm. That’s who I meant was an asshole. I don’t think that of LDW.

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            Cecee, I LOVE you sense of humour 😁😆

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        He also wrote “Thank you, Harry Styles” and gave them the sign back.
        I know, shitty to correct grammar in a compliment, but as someone who is frustrated by bad language (and I don’t mean cuss words) daily, I feel he is a little bit my hero for doing this.
        As a Dane, I am not only witness to bad Danish language, and bad English, but also Oh, deary deary me … to my very own daughter just completely taking over English grammar and speaking Danish as if she didn’t grow up here.
        Like, in Danish, you don’t say “She’s a singer” but just “She’s singer”. Except my girl, who inserts an article in all sorts of places where it shouldn’t be 😢
        Or, we have a word for something that we do often, (“plejer at gøre”) but she is using the “we would go home from school and would make a cup of tea” with “would” all the time, which is rare and very nostalgic in a Danish context. And so on and so forth. And like I can feel like a pleasant feeling in my gut at words used in exactly the right way, (like, there was a song with “a gente” used in a way so Brazilian that it just felt like eating digestives – crunchy in a gooood way), so these kind of mistakes are really jarring for me. It’s like a fork against a blackboard.

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          But this is just the way language changes. It has ever been thus over the millennia. We’ve only had the “rules” for a few hundred years…

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            Yah, Mama, as they say in Korea.
            I know language changes, but this is more like a fast moving avalanche or massacre. Because of the internet, she spends so much time communicating in English that is slaughters my language at a crazy speed.
            The rules are built partly on practice, partly on what makes sense. (More the first than the last). They are not just made up by some people who thought “Oh, we don’t have rules enough … let’s make some and go out and tell people what they are.” The rules have been looked for and found out, not made up. They are a core in our languages.
            But of course, my reaction is aesthetic more than functional. Oblivious use of language seems ugly to me, even if it is easy to understand. Which it isn’t always, I actually have misunderstood my own daughter several times because of that Danglish. Like, aforementioned “We would … ” sounds in Danish like “We wanted to … ” so I expect that she will tell me why they couldn’t.
            I do know that language changes. But right now, young people are spending so much time speaking English online that their own language is impaired.

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        I love the idea of Lee Dong-wook rapping his answer back with a Yo!

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      Ah-TschoO
      I don’t know what happens, @DarkCc and @attiton , but when I gif these, they go from 11mb to 57MiB, then optimized to 38MiB. But I had to gif this, too.

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        That glorious sneeze! Haha

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          Also @mayhemf … but after the sneeze, look what he does with his SNOT!! I’m sorry, but I have Cecilie to thank (with her glorious work) for making me go back and restate my point…It’s all cute when he sneezes–and I’M TOTALLY SORRY HE’S ALLERGIC TO HIS SWEATER–but get that man a hanky!!!

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      I haven’t seen that clip but I’m laughing for several minutes now reading what you wrote here and couldn’t keep on reading 😂😂😆😆. Lee Dong Wook is funny 😂

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    I saw that Viki had an interview of sorts but it was at 9am my time!!
    I am hoping to find the subbed version of it somewhere.
    we all need more Sung Hoon.

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      I’ve just seen literally 2 minutes of it appearing Insta and TikTok and the way the host starts with “I’m with Sung Hoon today to talk about his latest show, Perfect Marriage Revenge” or something along those lines.

      Followed by a few seconds of silence where you can see Sung Hoon’s face express a variety of emotions, ranging from complete despair to slight panic, before concluding with a visual “oh shit whatever”. And then he just replies “Of course” in English while his face screams the exact opposite.

      I just want it on a gif. This will be my life gif. The little “of course” of helplessness in the face of tsunami. I love it. Please, any writer, watch this, and write a scene where he can use the exact same facial expressions. Pretty please.

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        https://www.soompi.com/article/1629130wpp/perfect-marriage-revenge-star-sung-hoon-to-take-part-in-live-interview-with-viki-for-international-k-drama-day

        Is it this? I’m not on Insta, so can’t see it…

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        I went back to their insta page and their full rewatch version is there!!

        https://www.instagram.com/tv/C0QR9MJpOzv/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

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        Is this the one, @DarkCc ? There is no presentation that I can hear right before, but he does look like he needs to use a few minutes to resign to the situation:

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        He did not like PMR?

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          Maybe he tried to read the webtoon… 🤷🏻‍♀️

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          That would make sense, but it could also be that moment it dawned for him that he was beginning to have an allergic reaction, would need to keep on his allergenic sweater (because it was cold, or for PPL), and did not have neither anti-histamin pills nor hankies.
          So he went into hanky-panic.
          I know that feeling, and it can very easily make you feel tired and resigned right away.

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            I’d like to suggest another explanation.

            He was not satisfied with the ending or the fact that the plot is essentially how everyone is working super duper hard to make sure a boiled turnip can get her revenge (which, I’d argue, is only the result of everybody else’s work rather than her own; she literally did nothing towards getting revenge except for signing a marriage contract)

            he didn’t like Yi-joo’s extreme maladaptive sense of trust (essentially be 100% transparent with me at all times or I will reject you; which rejects all sense of privacy — you do not need to constantly tell someone all your truths at the said time just to earn their trust, not betraying them is enough)

            he could not stand Yi-joo’s double standards (I do not have to tell you about the date on my wrist but how dare you not tell me about yours? ; I do not have to marry for love but how dare my ex-husband not love me?)

            he thought that the karma slap back at Se-hyoek was completely unnecessary (given that he genuinely cared for and loved Yoo-ra and would have more than happily taken her and her child if she’s treated him like a human being rather than using him like a tool)

            he believes that contraption is widely enough spread in Sk society that Yoo-ra might have actually heard about it, especially if she has an habit of sleeping with people to pay for their services.

            he was expecting twins like in the webtoon and doesn’t understand why he ended up with one child only

            he was dissatisfied with Du-guk’s outfit and wanted to try on some of the fancy clothes of the Mother Scallion.

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