Thanks for the recap, @sunny! So finally we have come to this--- so are they, or are they not? Regardless, I'm looking forward to the ending of what I consider to be the best drama I've watched in recent memory!

I believe the convo Se-ran had with the secretary is still vague. There was no direct mention of two kids in the registry, just mention of two kids who were hospitalized on the same day. Plus, JK could still very well be the child of one of the two other victims of the murder spree. Also, in the newspaper article (at least according to the subs), the mother only ran away with the couple's "child" (NOT children).

I think we will know for sure on Wednesday.

it's going to be a toss-up... wrt the ending of this Kdrama...

i am feeling like it will be close to the original, but... one never knows. for me, i am hoping it sticks very close - as that was the "appeal" of the Jdrama, if one can call it that.

the dark story played out very well, i hope this version does also. that's all i'm hoping for....

Surely one or both of Jin-kang and Moo-young will die in the finale. It could be like Romeo and Juliet where instead of Romeo mistakenly thinking Juliet is dead, Moo-young mistakenly thinks Jin-kang is his sister thanks to Se-ran's evil manipulation. From there, the grief and supposed incest will be too much to bear and he kills himself and Jin-kang sees what he's done and kills herself too.

Jin-kook looks at the damage he is largely responsible for and he survives to live a life of guilt, with no happy love life with Tak.

😂😭

This eps is like a compilation of every type of hurt and pain the show could deal to all its characters (and us viewers).
 
I feel like I was crying in Moo-young's stead all throughout the eps. His initial numbness to the revelation of his painful childhood history is so much more heartbreaking than if he just simply railed at the whole world for handing him a rotten fate. Then there's the late realization that Jin-gook once tried to raised both Moo-young and Jin-kang as his siblings to atone for his guilt that hit me like a ton of brick. And to cap it off, there's that scene of Jin-kang staring at the missing person poster. I don't know why it hurts so much that she seemed to see Moo-young and herself there, the missing children who still hoped that somebody out there is still trying to find them. And don't even make me start on that cliffhanger!
*trying to calm myself down and remind myself that everything is just a fictional story*

I just finished watching Seo In Guk in "Hello Monster" and it touches on a lot of the same themes (minus incest). Nature vs. nurture. I think it was important the psychiatrist told Moo Yeung that his father being a murderer does not determine his fate. I hope it's a fakeout that MY and JK are brother and sister, but my gut is saying that they're siblings. The scene of Jin Kook and Tak at his mother's grave was touching. It reminds me of the line from "This Is Us"--the ones that matter are the ones at the start (your parents) and the ones at the end of your life.

Easy way to solve it: DNA test

watching that last scene unfold (as seen in the original) i was watching with closed fingers but we've finally come here. I feel the same as the recapper 'am i dead inside or do i just refuse to believe it'. All that's left is that dreadful ending if it happens next week i will truly be broken beyond repair.

Chapter 17: The Map is out.

Check it out here.

https://www.asianfanfics.com/story/view/1371103/a-hundred-million-stars-falling-from-the-sky-mystery-romance-thriller

I have said this before and I will say it again. Jin Gook is the ultimate culprit here! To save his own ass for murdering a man and separating his children, he could have easily intervened and taken this opportunity to come clean to the sister he claims he loves. And he was horrible to MY. His hypocrisy of caring for the murderer girl and hating MY for being what life made him, really made my blood boil! He went out of the way to stab the boy who’s life he had ruined! It doesn’t make sense to me! And Tak!! I had such high hopes for her! Seeing her trying to protect JG and blaming MY for the actions which were expected, really pushed me off the edge! They deserve each other. Poor JK. She was probably better off growing up in an orphanage somewhere :(

I really like the build up of the revelations in this adaptation. We've got more episodes which means more time to flesh out what is about to happen with the characters in the remaining two episodes.

I am not going to make any assumptions or theories (as it is highly possible that this adaptation will follow the footsteps of the original), so I guess I'll just enjoy having my heart broken for the remaining episodes.

If they're really siblings but didn't say anything, Jin-Gook is the one who should be responsibility!

When I look at Moo-young's rooftop apartment now, it really looks like a house. I like Jin-kang statement that the smell a rice means the smell of a warm house. And I see how Moo-young has completely changed as a person we've seen in ep 1.

For someone who loves to game with people lives and can easy spot their weaknesses like MY to not recognize that he is played now it's kind of weird, and underestimated Se Ran abilities and power, I have my doubts about them being siblings with info coming for her, this lady is not to be trusted and she is more cunning than MY. I think there is death on the horizon and after tragedy strike, we find out that the are not really siblings, but it gonna be too late.

I actually laughed when it ended there. I laughed out loud. I am terrible.
I feel like I'm probably taking a lot of my real life frustrations out on this show so I only really have negative, salty things to say about it, and more negative things than it possibly deserves. It's not nearly as bad as my lowest ranked dramas, but I still don't think it's technically that good either. I have a lot of issues with the latter half of the drama especially, in pacing, character writing and general story writing.
Incest plot aside (which will get quite the comparative literature rant if it does happen), it still bothers me in a lot of ways. Unfortunately? Fortunately? I haven't yet written my essay on it so I guess that will have to wait to the finale. Which I suppose will be a good thing since then I will have seen everything and analyse everything.
Ziggy is hard carying this drama though. He turns even weak character writing into a performance. Go you!!

If MY is being played by Se-ran I'm going to be disappointed because I thought MY was smarter than that (or am I supposed to believe that he's still innocent in some way?).

I'm braced for the end. SIG's performance has been riveting no matter how this turns out.

Here's a list of possible endings.

A.Se ran tells Jin kang that she's Moo young's sister. She's lying. Jin kang can't take it. She kills herself. Moo young finds out that they're not siblings, Moo young kills Se ran, and then kills himself.

B. Jin kang says, "Oh, yeah? I'm gonna get me a DNA test, and we'll see how it goes. She coolly walks out, leaving Se ran seething with fury. Two weeks later. DNA results are out. They're not siblings. Yay. But wait. Se ran's lurking outside the DNA office. BHAM WHAM. Cloud of smoke clears. Moo young and Jin kang lie dead. Se ran runs off, Jin kook chases her, and Se ran's car plunges down a ravine. Blank eyes is alive. Se ran is dead.

C. Moo young tells the doctor that he thinks that they're siblings. Doctor says, I'll go talk to Se ran. He goes to see her, and WHAM! falls in love with her at first sight. She feels warm and fuzzy when she sees him, and they go on a blind date. She tells him that she was lying, and he says, it's okay, you can start over. Like me. They hold hands and makes plans for a second date. They're invited to Moo young and Jin kang's wedding.

D. Jin kang kills herself. Moo young kills Se ran, then takes a cab to the doctor's office, and kills him, saying, You're a menace to society. Jin kook walks in with Tak. Tak opens fire and shoots Jin kook by mistake because she's never handled a gun before. Jin kook dies. Moo young tells her, shoot me. I'm right here. She presses the trigger. BHAM! Cho rong falls down dead. Yeah, he sneaked in through the window, but she's such a bad shot the bullet went sideways. Moo young is so frustrated. He grabs the gun and shoots himself.

Maybe Moo Young and Jin Kang are step siblings with no blood relation. Moo Young's father could have married Jin Kang's mother. It would also explain what Jin Kook said at the temple in an earlier episode about how the person they were praying for had the opportunity to see Jin Kang grow year after year. He could have been referring to her mother. So they could have been living together, had the burn together, but he didnt connect with her that much as a child so he left her at the hospital.

Unsaid things are like a cancer. The psy and Ji Kook hid too much and now Moo Young has to trust Se Ran... The issue is not what Se Ran said, but his memory of a little girl with him. All of that and he can't talk to person he loves so most and share his emotions.

I want to know more about the family. How Moo Young can remember a happy family when a such crime happened. The mother was really in a sect? Why the dad thought to kill people with an axe with his child here was a good idea? How they could put the husband and the wife in the same temple? Why didn't they have the same name?

My favourite scene was in the bus when he read the sms of Ji Kang. He needed it so much.

The scenes of the amusement park were pretty funny. His face during the ride :D

I like how the Korean version changed the dad’s motive to kill, cuz it hits home — cultism is so widespread in Korea (shivers while I recall Rescue Me). The original had some bullshit reason about money — so uninteresting. Just adding a cult to the story makes the family tragedy so much more pitiful. It needs little explanation to see how something once wonderful was broken, and not make either parents demonic, but rather victims of a greater evil.

Although the newspaper didn’t say who was taken by his mom, I believe MooYoung was living with his dad for the two years she ran away. He hasn’t recalled mom’s face yet but remembers a happy life playing with dad at their home in the woods. At age 5, counting 2 years back would be most of his recollectable memory and the parent that he was separated from would be difficult, if not impossible, to recall. MooYoung’s father could have been a very caring father up until that devastating day, which explains why MooYoung has been imagining him in an ideal way. Even though dad didn’t turn out to be the cop he expected, he felt he was looking for a good father, while he hasn’t displayed any feelings or longing to find his mom. His lack of imagination for mom may be due to her absence from his life. Significantly, he never saw that axe dad was hiding, so his father’s positive image was never tainted. I believe what JinKang said, that children’s art don’t lie.

@lixie My theory of Jinkook’s guilt is correlated to MY’s dad’s personality. I believe Jinkook was shook after he realized that the person he shot is not just some homicidal criminal. While he probably thought he was going after some horrible monster when he approached the house, or even when he pulled the trigger, he didn’t expect him to be someone’s father. As a rookie cop, he would have never expected to shoot a decently living human being. The chief didn’t explain much about MY’s father except that he is expected to die of capital punishment anyway, but that tells very little about his motive to murder. I imagine there maybe more to the father’s story of how he ended up killing 3 cult members, including his wife, all in one day. The short story would be he snapped. It all happened in the amount of time to boil water, so probably impulsive and not premeditated. MooYoung’s father was apparently frightened after he killed. His son and daughter was playing nearby. Was he trying to protect them?

In the Japanese version the detective was pursuing a murder suspect with hopes to promotion. The murder happened earlier and Ryo was living a fugitive life alongside his dad when his dad was killed. The detective wanted to adopt the children out of pity rather than guilt. When he spoke to Ryo, he showed almost no remorse for pulling the trigger but felt bad that Ryo had to lose his father.

For some of the irrational acts by characters I can only think of cultural justifications. It is really sad that the Korean society (at least in kdrama it...

If they really go with the incest route, it’s going to be a breakthrough in the history of k-drama. I’m still not sure if they dare to go there or they’ll choose a safe path with them being not blood related siblings.

It’s still not clear whether the cabin in the mountains is where MY lived with his father or it is where his mother lived with other members of a cult?

Thanks Sunny! My emotions were all wrung out since Friday until I'm numb now. This was one episode that got me hard in the sad, sad feels. Think I may be a teary mess again after Wednesday!

Se Ran was introduced with little info on her and quite late in the show. I'm wondering if suddenly she's going to end up playing a big role? The Dr at least had already been introduced since the beginning of the series, although he has revealed on bits about himself. I'd really like him to be useful for MY and to counter balance the unhinged, twisted Se Ran.

Tak and Cho Rong characters are kinda disappointing. They enable us to know what's on the minds of some protagonists, but they don't seem to have any power to do anything. All it takes for evil to win out is for good people to do nothing.

i loved this episode! Bombshell realization ending aside... i loved how MY was able to get some closure about his origin, albeit dark, i love how he was scared JK would reject him like everyone else has... how crippling it must have felt to discover that all he thought he knew about his Dad had been a lie... and when he thought it was too much to go on, JK was there to gently pull him back to the 'healing' ledge.

JK is such an impressive stalwart really! i love her loyalty. i like how she seems to understand and accept MY with his flaws and really seems to be in it for the long haul...

too bad their love might have to come to an abrupt end. i have not lost hope yet!

I don’t know why the cult members with the mom were at the cabin where Mooyoung and his dad lived, but I do have theories on his relation to younger Jinkang that doesn’t go the incest route.

Theory 1:

Jinkang and Mooyoung are only step-siblings, but no one knew that except their parents.

Theory 2:

Mooyoung does have a younger sister, but his mom did not bring her to the cabin. Jinkang is the daughter of one of the cult members who went to the cabin with Mooyoung’s mom. After Jingook shot Mooyoung’s dad, something happened that little Mooyoung had protected little Jinkang. When Jingook saw them and how Mooyoung protected Jinkang, he may have assumed Jinkang was the sister.

- but seriously, with incest as a possibility looming over Mooyoung and Jinkang...you’d think Sojung and Jingook would have been more desperate to separate the younglings in love...if it does end in incest, I’d say that the acting and the dialogues between Sojung and Jingook are disappointing...

I'm going to post again something from my fanwall exactly after watching this episode.

Million Stars – This show was so good. Until JG turned into a lunatic. Why would he feel so guilty about the past? Why does he remain mute if JK is who she is? Why would MY leave just because Tak dropped by at the house? Did she need a coffee? Was that more important than JG telling him the truth? That was so stupid.

Wow, show.
MY and JK understand each so well and are so good at being in love; with the show reinforcing that by giving us lots of gentle and intimate scenes... it will be extra horrifying if they really go through with the incest.

On the other hand, even if they're not siblings... I wonder if they would overcome the discovery of their shared traumatic past.

I will just repeat my comment from 17 Nov. 2018 WWW:

Tonight I watched episode 14 of HUNDRED MILLION STARS FROM THE SKY. Granted this is only the third drama I have seen Seo In-guk in (besides HELLO MONSTER and SQUAD 38) but I think he gave his best performance I have seen so far in the first 20 minutes of this episode and it was basically a solo performance. Bravo SIG!

Oh man, I guessed this pretty early but didn't want to believe it. I still hope there's some way out of this, because it's giving me visions of a horrible ending featuring all kinds of death and destruction.

Wouldn't Jin-Kook have known about this? So wouldn't he have tried just a little more to keep them apart, or is he THAT desperate to cover up his own secrets? What a nightmare. What's funny is that it feels all for nothing. If the thing he's worried about the most is Jin-Kang's response to him shooting someone, he should think about how she reacted to him stabbing Moo-Young. She wasn't happy but she wasn't cutting Jin-Kook out of her life either.

If he was trying to protect her from her past, then he should have taken one second to think about how he was failing to protect her future. She's now on a path that will lead to deep pain at the very least, but I doubt Moo-Young would leave it at that. He looks ready to snap.

I love Moo-Young as a character, and SIG's portrayal. He's very grey - a character who is wobbling on a tightrope. I've seen comments comparing him to a sociopath or psychopath, and I myself have wondered if he's a sociopath.

I spent a night once viewing forums and threads on sociopaths and psychopaths after Googling to answer my question of 'what's the difference between the two'. It was a few months ago, and I went down a rabbit hole of information that exposed how little I'd known about these conditions outside of horrors and thrillers.

There was one person in particular who said they'd been born with the genetics that predisposed them to sociopathy, but that they had only really become one ('activated' that predisposition) after enduring trauma and abuse. The way that they described it, it was something like making a conscious choice to clock out of neurotypical emotion and flicking the switch, but that they cannot switch back nor are they even sure they want to. They described life as 'easier now'.

I bear this in mind when watching Moo-Young. To me, he seems like someone with the predisposition who is currently straddling the fence precariously. He's still capable of empathy and making neurotypical choices, with Jin-Kang as his compass. Because of his connection with her, he's already changed so much (the furnishing of his bare apartment seems a really good symbol for this).

But will this push him over the edge? I'm genuinely curious as to what we'll see from him now. Even if he's not a sociopath but a tortured neurotypical person, this looks like it will end in a bloodbath. Especially with the creepy businesswoman sniffing around him like a shark detecting blood.