That’s a really good point if there are only a few dramas to focus on the discussions will be lively I saw the number of responses on some of the old posts were really high. ☺️

Yes, Business Proposal and Our Beloved Summer would be excellent and fun options. Unfortunately, they don")'t have Netflix, so I'm sticking to stuff available on Viki

Oh, Waikiki 2! I should probably try that one out with my own kids. They loved Waikiki 1

Yes, thinness is a thing in k-ent. I don't want to put it all on SK, naturally. Fashion in western countries is equally obsessed with thin young bodies. But, yeah, yikes. Today I started watching Queendom 2 with my oldest, because we both enjoy the performances and the amazing outfits and styling. But at some point I felt like I had to comment that most of the performers are the same size, give or take some height differences, and how unhealthy and narrow-minded it is to expect everybody to look the same 🙄

I didn't think of webdramas, thanks for the tips!

For ages I only had access to YouTube so watched loads of web dramas, KBS specials were also a good option. I ended up with Viki because I could not find Mr Queen anywhere else and the clips I saw were so funny I just couldn’t resist, then I watched What’s wrong with secretary Kim as that one also had postings on YouTube.

Viki has some great dramas so once they have got into it I think they will probably just start exploring and if they know about the option to drop if it isn’t working for them I think they will be fine.
I also alternate between Netflix and Viki monthly subscriptions depending on who has the dramas I ‘need’ to see. Twenty five, Twenty one got me back on Netflix after I dropped it for months to stick with Viki content. Depending on their subscription level they may decide to do the same thing.

Viki always cracks me up with the live comments. I used to watch everything on Viki when I was a teen and You're Beautiful had some AMAZING reactions. (I mean, the pig nose, the vomit kiss - there were some class comments)
I've somehow blocked ads on Chrome now, though, so Viki won't let me play free dramas. Any tips?

Viki calls me out for using a VPN so I have to make sure its off. I don’t have any tips on how to access free content as I have always paid after I realised the perks on the paid version.

@jance, you're not alone in your enjoyment of Viki comments! Sometimes they get a bit overwhelming- like, I hate the hate on female characters -, but there are a lot of funny or just amusingly deranged ones. And some dramas really benefit from the comments -the wild comments definitely helped get to the end of Lovers of Red Sky 😂 Wish you get to fix your problem with Viki. Maybe using another internet browser?

Been scrolling through Viki's site and I came up with some ideas:
30 but 17
True Beauty
Extraordinary You
Nokdu Tale
I think that picking something light and with a youthful cast is probably the way to go

Ok, I told them 30 but 17 and Nokdu Tale. As @reply1988 pointed out, I think the best way to ease them into dramaland is to avoid trope-heavy dramas. Still, we come from a soap opera culture, which kind of makes the jump into kdrama easier 😂

30 but 17 I think is a good call. I loved that especially the younger brother’s crush on her it was so sweet. The funny housekeeper adds to the humour. The only trope that may be an issue is moody male lead syndrome which may not go down well.

True Beauty with the intro to family dynamics might be good too but the break up and intro to second lead syndrome may need some prep. The boxer shorts dancing though is a gem.

I'm not evek sure if I watched TB until the end. The bullying was a bit too much for me, but I remember the drama as overall fluffly. But I still lol everytime Okey dokey pops up in my playlist

What about weightlifting fairy or do you think its too advanced as they are university age so the bullying weight issues are more adult?

I liked 30 but 17! I'm not sure about a Sageuk, though (e.g. Nokdu). It might need quite a bit of background...

I also thought of WLFKBJ! It's a lovely drama, but I found it jarring that so much of it was about weight, and it just didn't add up because She. Was. Thin.
I adore Lee Sung Kyung and she was charming in this, but her looks simply didn't match the character's concerns. Drama made me feel like either she or I was having cognitive dissonance 😂

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But on a serious note it is sad that we have to vet these shows for dodgy messages for fear of their impact on vulnerable young minds. It is a shame the pressure is on those in the limelight including actors to be pressured in this way and I felt that they were trying to expose the teacher as being out of order with her constant comments and show how it had caused mental health issues.

I have been looking at the actor playing the male lead in Jinxed at first and his Adam’s apple seems to be really prominent, he is very slim and it makes me wonder if he is dieting or physically unwell. It may of course just be normal for him. I am worrying about the female leads arms as they are skinny too. I am hoping that these are not outcomes of trying to stay relevant.

@reply1988, you mean Na In Woo? I noticed that too, but in his case it's probably because he's overworked. He's got credited for 6 dramas for the years 2021-2022, including River where the Moon Rises straight after Mr Queen, where he took over the role mid-production and filmed his scenes for the whole thing in 5 weeks.
Not that there isn't this huge pressure to conform extremely strict beauty standards, so probably that plays a role too, of course. I was also surprised at how tiny and fragile Seohyun looks in JAF. From Love and Leashes I had the impression that she was a bit taller and stronger, but maybe it's just the contrast with the very tall and broad shouldered Na In Woo

I have watched four of the six dramas and don’t remember his appearance standing out they were mainly minor characters as opposed to having the main lead in this one and Her bucket list. He may have been more covered in those roles so it was less noticeable or it got worse as you say due to overwork.

I also saw love unleashed what a disappointment that was compared to the webtoon where the online friendships and impact on in person relationships was explored in more detail. She looked healthier in that one.

Aren't we all?

@Jance That's why I don't watch TV with my parents because I never know what to expect.

Omg my in laws will turn off things with swearing but extremely naked sex scenes are apparently fine to watch in company 😬🫣

It is not a philosophy I grew up with and it makes me so uncomfortable 😅

@beffels What kind of shows and movies with extremely naked sex scenes don't include swearing? lol

@panshel weird arty period pieces 😅

@panshel I always check the parental guide on imdb before we watch anything together hahahaha

They were sure Hillary would win. And some people say she did.

If only she could've held on 4 more months until Biden took office.

@bbstl Hillary did win the popular vote.

there should be a set retirement age for SCOTUS -- but actually for ALL of the senate and house seats as well!!! i mean, there are 80+ year olds (majority OLD MEN) making decisions for our children's futures - not to mention our own president, but...

I have been thinking about this all day. Obama said in his book he asked RBG to step down because who knows who her seat would go to and she wouldn't. I love RBG as much as the next but I keep thinking if she had stepped down someone-- not even liberal but someone human--could have taken her seat.
It's 2022 and we really just made the only option for women a dirty wire hanger in the back of someone's car? Did we all not watch Dirty Dancing?

@panshel I was saying to friends that they should've kept RBG in coma / made her a zombie / put her on life support / do whatever it takes to extend her life UNTIL election 2020 got sorted out.

@flatwhite The courts are going to be one of the biggest legacies of the Trump administration. The Supreme Court is no longer a check and balance on the other 2 branches of government.

3 conservative justices being shoved through aside, the Supreme Court has huge legitimacy issues with a sitting justice whose wife is an insurrectionist and a QAnon supporter.

@panshel yep, that’s what I’m sayin’ 😉

Slightly less percentage of US Supreme Court Justices died in office than percentage retired. I don't know if any died "young". Seems like there must be some psychological factors that cause justices to not want to enjoy a golden retirement. Wonder whether it's a power trip thing. Otherwise, plenty of institutions would welcome the retirees aboard if they had intellectual needs to satisfy.

Also, seems like Justice Breyer knew Roe v. Wade would be overturned when he announced his retirement. Might be a main factor that spurred his decision.

That makes me feel better! Everyone I know always mocks me because things go awry in the kitchen for me. I'm not the only person to set the oven or the microwave or the toaster or the toaster oven on fire! These things happen!

So … you think it’s just an excuse for showing off their muscles? 😮😁

I think it really got going with Rain always stripping his shirt off during his concerts! They even started his early drama Full House with a scene of him getting out of bed with very little on!