Exactly! That is what I have always said! I like rom-coms with a side of thriller, or even better, thrillers with a side of rom-com, because there is less reason and time to invent forced lovers angst!
I keep hearing the Hong sister’s being mentioned with a negative statement afterwards. I just looked them up and I haven’t watched any of their dramas but I thought Hotel Del Luna and My girlfriend is a Gumiho got good reviews.
Ok sounds like going in not expecting much is the best approach and if it turns out well it’s a bonus. Maybe there are a couple of good ones that leads to the high expectations for the others which are not in the same league.
My problem is usually the editing – big budget dramas are given free reign to make story arcs unnecessarily long, usually at the expense of intelligent characters…
I have watched 9 out of their 12 dramas. In my opinion their shows are always new and different, with a ridiculous sense of humour, and unusaul characters played by very charismatic actors. I watch them for the fun and ridiculousness I know they will provide. I don’t get upset when their shows don’t end spectacularly well. I never expect that of any drama no matter which writer. I have learned my lesson a long time ago. If I don’t like the show then so be it. Next time, lower expectations.
It’s clearly the hype. The Hong Sisters were extremely popular on Dramabeans about 5 years ago. It’s only recently that there’s so much negativity around them. If I remember correctly, Javabean and Girlfriday were big fans.
Honestly, I never understood the hype because the Hong Sisters were always hit or miss for me.
I liked only 3 of their dramas: MGiaG, A Korean Odyssey, and Hotel del Luna.
I absolutely hated the other dramas of theirs I’ve seen: Delightful Girl, Warm&Cozy, Master’s Sun, My Girl, and You’re Beautiful.
True. JB and GF being great fans definitely contributed to the high expectations on db. The fact is they were native Korean speakers and understood every single pun and joke and reference that the writers used, so they definitely enjoyed their shows much more than the average foreign kdrama fan does.
It’s true if you get the translations without the subtleties then you lose the meaning, like the translator spoke about in Run on. I didn’t like that drama but I knew exactly what she meant.
Yes to dramas that finish strong!
The middle angst was completely unnecessary (and wasted lots of potential as @radily said), but I loved the last couple of episodes. Friendship group goals!
Agreed the drama with his mum could have been a good enough side plot. That would have left plenty of time for focusing on the humour like jealousy over the lattes and other elements of bromance and the side couples.
Probably the first drama I’ve seen where the female lead hides a dead body in the first episode.
I started the episode thinking, “Uh, ANOTHER stalker plotline? I’m so tired of this” but they went further with it than I anticipated, and that ending has me interested, lol!
I kinda wish it had a more black comedy vibe, though? I dunno.
I do like how they kinda turned the “cold unfeeling male lead” thing into something more interesting by literally forcing him to feel others’ emotions, lol.
… Does it count if she kills someone in general first ep… or she has to do the hiding also first ep?
I wanna make some kind of weird list from this lmao.
The One and Only has the FL “kill” someone in Episode 1, if the former counts 🤭
(Unfortunately she’s not the final cause of his death, and the drama would’ve been better if she’d actually killed him but oh well… )
And we’re back on track! Shooting Stars is returning to comedy (and actually didn’t go too far into melo in the end).
More company meetings and team dynamics!
I know they do a day job that has in the small print people feel they have a right to dictate how you live your life. I know they are paid well but is it enough to cover the lack of privacy, gruelling schedules that impact on relationships and sudden loss of career if people go off you for any number of reasons.
I am loving this show but I really want to get back to a low key drama that is a no brainier watch gives a nice dose of feel good factor and that’s it.
True – the bickering and funny antics of covering for brainless actors was the hook for me. Now I care about the relationships, but it’s not a feel-good watch anymore… Then I end up overthinking celebrities’ lives and feeling just darn grateful to be “normal”. Not quite why I watch dramas!
But… I don\’t care about anyone trying to get revenge on Tae-sung. Can\’t we go back to petty fights, nervous kissing, team meetings and PR problems? Pretty please?
#shootingstars
The chemistry, the well-written characters, the clever villain, the team meetings, the kick which flattened Hyun-soo, the frenemies… I could name lots more things I enjoyed! ✅ Suspicious Partner
Right? She’s independent, kick-ass, honest, considerate and not pushy at all! I was so surprised that kdramas could write this kind of FL. I love them together!
@dncingemma: Hello to you too! I hope you’re doing well. Uni’s over for this semester so all I do these days is be unproductive and watch like a dozen ongoing dramas. I don’t recommend it. Don’t worry about your dysfunctional tech. Happens to all of us. NGM truly is unique and I can find no fault in your sentence 😂.
Is men are men the Park Hae Jin drama? If yes i liked it too.. suspicious partner – i liked the bickering leads but it has a serial killer so not sure if it fits the cheer up bill.
Yes I think it was around that time. Though to be fair, Born Again was almost offensively bad while this was just generically bad. #JusticeForLeeSooHyuk.
I wanted the same and turned to Eulachacha/Wohoo Waikiki. It’s laugh out loud funny but I had already seen half of it before so I knew what I was going into.
25/21 has made me a complete emotional wreck. Sobbed from halfway through the last episode until the end. It’s going to take ages to get over this, beautiful though it was. Someone recommend me something light and fluffy where the leads end up together as a pick-me-up!
I really don’t know what kind of story they’re trying to tell right now, but the rest of the show is just so fluffin’ good so I wanna try and stay (naively?) optimistic that the drama won’t let us down
The more I love 25/21, the more I don\’t like the present day clips. We already know there\’s going to be a time-jump so why add in an another one where Hee-do has become a boring / pushy mum?
Surname Kim made sense only if our ML changed his surname to Kim and had a child with hee do..but child doesn’t seem to know our ML and FL has no reason to keep Kim as family name and not her own if the child were truly hers and ML’s child
So, i am more inclined to think its not her child or FL did marry/ had a baby with someone else with family name Kim..
Former case – there are no suitable candidates whose child she could be
Latter – child goes out looking for mom’s ex-bf and brings them close again.. SWEET
***************
the biggest mystery for me in this show is presence of the 5th character in hee do’s group.. FL, ML, FL’s virtual friend and ace player, second couple ML.. but what about the rank 1 third FL?? Why does this story need her?
Jance
July 5, 2022 at 4:20 AM
Still loving Link. These guys are so cute!
I realise I don’t mind rom coms with stalkers because it means the angst is coming from something other than a bratty ex / love rival. ^^
Midnight
July 5, 2022 at 6:25 AM
Exactly! That is what I have always said! I like rom-coms with a side of thriller, or even better, thrillers with a side of rom-com, because there is less reason and time to invent forced lovers angst!
Jance
June 20, 2022 at 4:03 PM
Yet more great Link laughs (and tears). This drama’s still perfectly walking the line between comedy, romance and mystery. I’m loving it!
Jance
June 16, 2022 at 2:29 AM
@reply1988 are you going to be trying Alchemy of Souls this weekend?
Reply1988
June 16, 2022 at 3:16 AM
No it’s not really my style of drama. Will you be watching?
I started Jinxed and so far that level of fantasy works for me.
Jance
June 16, 2022 at 5:13 AM
Not sure. I’ve got Netflix so it’s tempting, but I’ve been burned by Hong sisters dramas before…
Reply1988
June 16, 2022 at 6:56 AM
I keep hearing the Hong sister’s being mentioned with a negative statement afterwards. I just looked them up and I haven’t watched any of their dramas but I thought Hotel Del Luna and My girlfriend is a Gumiho got good reviews.
Jance
June 16, 2022 at 8:08 AM
I enjoyed Hotel del Luna – but I also watched Warm and Cozy…
Midnight
June 17, 2022 at 6:01 AM
That is true. Milking the investors as much as possible.
Midnight
June 16, 2022 at 9:11 AM
Imho it’s mostly a case of much much too high expectations, turning into severe negativity instead of lower expectations.
Reply1988
June 16, 2022 at 9:27 AM
Ok sounds like going in not expecting much is the best approach and if it turns out well it’s a bonus. Maybe there are a couple of good ones that leads to the high expectations for the others which are not in the same league.
💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
June 16, 2022 at 3:59 PM
Idk man I went into HDLL with super low expectations and it still ended up like THAT for me hahs
Jance
June 17, 2022 at 5:36 AM
My problem is usually the editing – big budget dramas are given free reign to make story arcs unnecessarily long, usually at the expense of intelligent characters…
Midnight
June 16, 2022 at 10:06 AM
I have watched 9 out of their 12 dramas. In my opinion their shows are always new and different, with a ridiculous sense of humour, and unusaul characters played by very charismatic actors. I watch them for the fun and ridiculousness I know they will provide. I don’t get upset when their shows don’t end spectacularly well. I never expect that of any drama no matter which writer. I have learned my lesson a long time ago. If I don’t like the show then so be it. Next time, lower expectations.
am1993
June 16, 2022 at 10:44 AM
It’s clearly the hype. The Hong Sisters were extremely popular on Dramabeans about 5 years ago. It’s only recently that there’s so much negativity around them. If I remember correctly, Javabean and Girlfriday were big fans.
Honestly, I never understood the hype because the Hong Sisters were always hit or miss for me.
I liked only 3 of their dramas: MGiaG, A Korean Odyssey, and Hotel del Luna.
I absolutely hated the other dramas of theirs I’ve seen: Delightful Girl, Warm&Cozy, Master’s Sun, My Girl, and You’re Beautiful.
Midnight
June 16, 2022 at 10:55 AM
True. JB and GF being great fans definitely contributed to the high expectations on db. The fact is they were native Korean speakers and understood every single pun and joke and reference that the writers used, so they definitely enjoyed their shows much more than the average foreign kdrama fan does.
Reply1988
June 16, 2022 at 11:17 AM
It’s true if you get the translations without the subtleties then you lose the meaning, like the translator spoke about in Run on. I didn’t like that drama but I knew exactly what she meant.
Jance
June 13, 2022 at 2:33 PM
I wish I had someone to hang out with when I can’t sleep!
I know it’s annoying for him, but that’s a pretty cool superpower.
emsel
June 13, 2022 at 8:57 PM
These scenes were very sweet and relaxing
Jance
June 12, 2022 at 7:57 AM
Yes to dramas that finish strong!
The middle angst was completely unnecessary (and wasted lots of potential as @radily said), but I loved the last couple of episodes. Friendship group goals!
Jance
June 12, 2022 at 7:58 AM
Middle angst being people with random vendettas against Tae-sung. I didn’t mind his mother’s arc so much.
Reply1988
June 12, 2022 at 8:22 AM
Agreed the drama with his mum could have been a good enough side plot. That would have left plenty of time for focusing on the humour like jealousy over the lattes and other elements of bromance and the side couples.
Jance
June 12, 2022 at 10:07 AM
“Have you had a latte?”
Jance
June 6, 2022 at 3:24 PM
Link: Eat, Love, Kill – super funny, then super creepy. I’m intrigued…
mindy📔liberation club member
June 6, 2022 at 3:30 PM
Probably the first drama I’ve seen where the female lead hides a dead body in the first episode.
I started the episode thinking, “Uh, ANOTHER stalker plotline? I’m so tired of this” but they went further with it than I anticipated, and that ending has me interested, lol!
I kinda wish it had a more black comedy vibe, though? I dunno.
I do like how they kinda turned the “cold unfeeling male lead” thing into something more interesting by literally forcing him to feel others’ emotions, lol.
💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
June 6, 2022 at 10:39 PM
… Does it count if she kills someone in general first ep… or she has to do the hiding also first ep?
I wanna make some kind of weird list from this lmao.
The One and Only has the FL “kill” someone in Episode 1, if the former counts 🤭
(Unfortunately she’s not the final cause of his death, and the drama would’ve been better if she’d actually killed him but oh well… )
Jance
June 7, 2022 at 3:14 AM
I was loving the comedy, then it suddenly became black comedy. It was a bit jarring but hopefully it’ll even out…
Jance
June 5, 2022 at 9:33 AM
And we’re back on track! Shooting Stars is returning to comedy (and actually didn’t go too far into melo in the end).
More company meetings and team dynamics!
jillian
June 5, 2022 at 10:21 AM
This show is at its best at its light hearted moments.
mmmmm
June 5, 2022 at 12:59 PM
It’s such a non-toxic show. I’m so thankful for the cast and crew for this excellent work. Now I wonder what will we have for the final 2 eps.
Jance
June 5, 2022 at 1:48 PM
More funny celebrity cameos?
jillian
June 5, 2022 at 5:46 PM
Yes please. Funnier the better!
PYC
June 6, 2022 at 6:12 AM
It’s such an easy and enjoyable ride. With great side characters and plots, a rare drama that the main leads seem to be a backdrop.
Jance
May 29, 2022 at 10:27 AM
Episodes 11-12 of Sh**ting Stars – OUCH.
(But great acting!)
The more I see of celebrity lives, the more I\’m in awe of their resilience.
Reply1988
May 29, 2022 at 11:51 AM
I know they do a day job that has in the small print people feel they have a right to dictate how you live your life. I know they are paid well but is it enough to cover the lack of privacy, gruelling schedules that impact on relationships and sudden loss of career if people go off you for any number of reasons.
I am loving this show but I really want to get back to a low key drama that is a no brainier watch gives a nice dose of feel good factor and that’s it.
Jance
May 29, 2022 at 2:00 PM
True – the bickering and funny antics of covering for brainless actors was the hook for me. Now I care about the relationships, but it’s not a feel-good watch anymore… Then I end up overthinking celebrities’ lives and feeling just darn grateful to be “normal”. Not quite why I watch dramas!
Jance
May 22, 2022 at 8:39 AM
But… I don\’t care about anyone trying to get revenge on Tae-sung. Can\’t we go back to petty fights, nervous kissing, team meetings and PR problems? Pretty please?
#shootingstars
Ally
May 22, 2022 at 4:09 PM
I thought these episodes were weird too. But the couple scenes were adorable!
Jance
May 23, 2022 at 2:20 AM
I loved all the selfies hahaha
And I’m shipping the reporter and the lawyer ^^
Jance
May 20, 2022 at 9:59 AM
The chemistry, the well-written characters, the clever villain, the team meetings, the kick which flattened Hyun-soo, the frenemies… I could name lots more things I enjoyed! ✅ Suspicious Partner
Jance
May 15, 2022 at 12:08 PM
Hahaha backseat driving!
I’m invested – even though he’s a man-child.
Jance
May 14, 2022 at 9:22 AM
I’m loving Shooting Stars despite its flaws. And I’m so happy I found Suspicious Partner. I’m reminded again that dramas are my happy place… (^v^)
Kurama
May 14, 2022 at 12:44 PM
I really liked Suspicious Partner. JCW and NJH had so much chemistry! I loved the FL.
Jance
May 14, 2022 at 3:29 PM
Right? She’s independent, kick-ass, honest, considerate and not pushy at all! I was so surprised that kdramas could write this kind of FL. I love them together!
Jance
May 13, 2022 at 9:56 AM
Hahahaha – what a great rant! So basically like every classic villain in dramas? (e.g. Vincenzo)
I’ve picked up Suspicious Partner and I’m loving it!
Jance
April 26, 2022 at 12:49 PM
Looking forward to 1000 Won Lawyer. Namgoong Min is pretty incredible!
ladynightshade | lee bangwon’s fan
April 26, 2022 at 11:28 PM
I really, really hope this has a comedic tone. The world needs more Namgoong Min in comedies! Come on, he’s even got a weird outfit on in the picture!
Jance
April 27, 2022 at 12:49 AM
I particularly loved him in Chief Kim because he was so wacky! That said, he also was great in Stove League…
DancingEmma
May 10, 2022 at 12:57 AM
@ladynightshade: Hello you! I hope uni is going ok and you are a bit less busy.
DancingEmma
May 10, 2022 at 12:47 AM
I adore his acting. He is such unique.
DancingEmma
May 10, 2022 at 12:56 AM
My crappy Ipad has rendered me illiterate! Sorry!
ladynightshade | lee bangwon’s fan
May 10, 2022 at 12:09 PM
@dncingemma: Hello to you too! I hope you’re doing well. Uni’s over for this semester so all I do these days is be unproductive and watch like a dozen ongoing dramas. I don’t recommend it. Don’t worry about your dysfunctional tech. Happens to all of us. NGM truly is unique and I can find no fault in your sentence 😂.
Jance
April 25, 2022 at 2:06 AM
So I’m looking for a lighthearted drama to watch an hour a day to cheer myself up. As I have Netflix, options are:
Men are Men
Suspicious Partner
My Fellow Citizens
What do you guys think?
Lord Cobol
April 25, 2022 at 2:21 AM
MFC had some really good moments.
parkchuna is still an Errant 🫘
April 25, 2022 at 3:05 AM
My Fellow Citizens!
parkchuna is still an Errant 🫘
April 25, 2022 at 3:10 AM
Is men are men the Park Hae Jin drama? If yes i liked it too.. suspicious partner – i liked the bickering leads but it has a serial killer so not sure if it fits the cheer up bill.
miso
April 25, 2022 at 4:21 AM
Men are Men is the one with Yoon Hyun-min and Hwang Jung-eum. I’m generally very forgiving of Yoon Hyun-min’s shows but I thought it was pretty bad 😬.
mindy📔liberation club member
April 25, 2022 at 4:48 AM
It was really bad lol.
Jance
April 25, 2022 at 7:19 AM
Thanks for the heads up!
parkchuna is still an Errant 🫘
April 25, 2022 at 4:56 AM
Ok the PHJ one is Man to Man. That was my intro to min Jung who also made an incredible villain in Fellow Citizens.
emsel
April 25, 2022 at 8:20 AM
I think it aired along with “Born Again” or after it, but both had same past/fated-to-die-meet-again nonsense that made the story even worse.
miso
April 25, 2022 at 8:54 AM
Yes I think it was around that time. Though to be fair, Born Again was almost offensively bad while this was just generically bad. #JusticeForLeeSooHyuk.
wapz
April 25, 2022 at 3:23 AM
I wanted the same and turned to Eulachacha/Wohoo Waikiki. It’s laugh out loud funny but I had already seen half of it before so I knew what I was going into.
korfan
April 25, 2022 at 5:16 AM
My Fellow Citizens!
Ghost of Tim
April 25, 2022 at 7:23 AM
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tabong
April 25, 2022 at 11:19 AM
I haven’t watch two and I dropped the other one but I know Netflix has:
Man to Man
Mad for Each Other
Rookie Historian GHR
Welcome to Waikiki
Any of those shows should do the trick.
Jance
April 25, 2022 at 12:30 PM
Thanks, pal! <3
Midnight
April 25, 2022 at 1:53 PM
I LOVE My Fellow Citizens
Jance
April 6, 2022 at 9:05 AM
I’ve upgraded to Eunuch in drag! (Where’s my crown prince?)
mmmmm
April 6, 2022 at 10:55 AM
Congratulations! 🎉
mugyuljoie is preciousss
April 6, 2022 at 11:10 AM
Yay!
ladynightshade | lee bangwon’s fan
April 6, 2022 at 11:20 AM
Congratulations!
Kurama
April 6, 2022 at 11:49 AM
Congratulations!
Which one do you want?
Jance
April 6, 2022 at 3:21 PM
Good question! One of the very few without too much angst please!
Eazal
April 6, 2022 at 12:08 PM
Congrats!
korfan
April 7, 2022 at 1:29 AM
Congratulations!
Jance
April 3, 2022 at 2:26 PM
They call it the Tunnel of Tears. Literally every time they went near this place I cried.
Jance
April 3, 2022 at 10:30 AM
25/21 has made me a complete emotional wreck. Sobbed from halfway through the last episode until the end. It’s going to take ages to get over this, beautiful though it was. Someone recommend me something light and fluffy where the leads end up together as a pick-me-up!
wapz
April 3, 2022 at 11:02 AM
It was certainly beautiful, all the journey. Are you watching Business Proposal? It’s light, fluffy and funny.
Jance
March 13, 2022 at 11:09 AM
Please can someone edit together a version of 25/21 without the present-day scenes? I’ll pay you…
Lucy🦋 | Hyun Bins First Love
March 13, 2022 at 12:06 PM
haha my anxiety kicks out of nowhere when this drama changes into present day scenes… I find myself holding my breath
parkchuna is still an Errant 🫘
March 13, 2022 at 7:49 PM
Same! That last 3 mins was such a bummer. But ep 9/10 were perfection so i will trust Show not to crush our hearts (permanently) in the coming weeks.
Cori 🍓🌙🐶
March 13, 2022 at 9:02 PM
I really don’t know what kind of story they’re trying to tell right now, but the rest of the show is just so fluffin’ good so I wanna try and stay (naively?) optimistic that the drama won’t let us down
Jance
February 20, 2022 at 8:09 AM
The more I love 25/21, the more I don\’t like the present day clips. We already know there\’s going to be a time-jump so why add in an another one where Hee-do has become a boring / pushy mum?
alasecond
February 21, 2022 at 9:15 AM
i doubt its her child
Jance
February 21, 2022 at 9:50 AM
Huh? What’s your theory?
alasecond
February 21, 2022 at 10:19 AM
Surname Kim made sense only if our ML changed his surname to Kim and had a child with hee do..but child doesn’t seem to know our ML and FL has no reason to keep Kim as family name and not her own if the child were truly hers and ML’s child
So, i am more inclined to think its not her child or FL did marry/ had a baby with someone else with family name Kim..
Former case – there are no suitable candidates whose child she could be
Latter – child goes out looking for mom’s ex-bf and brings them close again.. SWEET
***************
the biggest mystery for me in this show is presence of the 5th character in hee do’s group.. FL, ML, FL’s virtual friend and ace player, second couple ML.. but what about the rank 1 third FL?? Why does this story need her?