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K-drama problems: Tumbling down the rabbit hole

It’s always been interesting to me that K-drama lovers are always very cognizant of their point of entry — i.e., everyone has asked herself at some point, “How did I fall down this rabbit hole, exactly?”

It turns out that the Alice in Wonderland metaphor is perfect in many ways, and not just because it tells the tale of a girl falling (literally) into a new dimension. It’s also about a girl who encounters a world that’s unlike her own, that has different rules, operates under different constraints, and is a little bit “mad”!

Does this sound at all like when you fell headlong into dramas? Some of us were lucky enough to have dramas a part of our lives and culture, but for many of us, we discovered or got into dramas independently. Whether it was like drinking a love potion or falling down a tunnel of twisted logic, dramaland is where we wound up.

My own fall down the rabbit hole is completely mundane. So mundane, in fact, that I often think how strange it is that minor turns of events wound up opening so many doors for me, and affording me so much enjoyment.

Pre-K-drama me was working a small job in a big company in an even bigger city. One summer our office employed a high school intern who, in addition to helping me catalog a huge collection, kept obliquely referring to this show she was watching. It was this popular Korean TV show called Boys Before Flowers, ever heard of it? Well, everyone in her class was watching it. And week after week she kept mentioning the show to me, telling me bits of the plot — and yes, even showing me her cellphone wallpaper featuring Lee Min-ho. Perm, fur coat, and smirk included.

Why did I resist watching this show so much at first? I really don’t know. When I finally succumbed, it was months later when I had just moved to an apartment on my own. If you’ve never lived alone before, it can be odd at first, and awfully quiet. That strange Korean drama title stayed lodged in my head, though, and long story short, I located it online (I don’t even remember how) and began to watch it in the solitude of my tiny living room. All it took was one episode for me to be confused, intrigued — and completely addicted.

Boys Before Flowers wound up keeping me company as I settled into my new home. This is partly why, now and forever, a) a tiny fragment of Lee Min-ho will always be mine; and b) why K-dramas became like a friend to me. Also medicine, but most usually a friend. It wasn’t till ages later that I learned Boys Before Flowers was actually an infamous “gateway drama” for many viewers, and was responsible for creating many avid K-drama fans besides me.

What do you do when you’re a drama novice, and you’ve just made it through a drama like Boys Before Flowers? After a brief recovery period, your thoughts might do something like this, as mine did: Okay, that was actually fun. And I kind of want more. But surely that was a one-off event. All K-dramas can’t be that wacky and addictive and fun. That drama was an outlier, right? I’ll go back to watching my serious and depressing indie films now.

Nope. I might have tried, but there was something that I was missing. With my first K-drama, I had experienced some of the most joyful and fun entertainment I had since watching TV shows as a kid. Sure enough, dramaland called me back.

When you’re new to dramaland, and know very little about how it works, it’s a good enough method to follow the drama breadcrumbs left by an unsuspecting participant — like Lee-Min-ho for instance. What else has he been in? City Hunter? Hmm, what’s that, I wondered. I probably won’t like it.

Wrong again. City Hunter was it. It solidified the very serious notion that I had found my PLACE, and it was full of stories and storytelling that I could love forever. I realized, with only two dramas under my belt, that I had accidentally stumbled upon a lost city of Atlantis. Except it wasn’t lost. It was alive and thriving and bursting with new stories on an alarmingly rapid basis.

City Hunter, I quickly learned, was actually a way better measuring stick for what I could expect from K-dramas as a genre. Maybe not as hare-brained as Boys Before Flowers was, but infinitely enjoyable, and full of all those things I have come to love the most about dramaland, from the tropes to the humor to the worldview.

As you might have imagined (or experienced for yourself), after City Hunter, it was downhill (as in down the rabbit hole) from there. Actors led me to new dramas, which led me to the wider drama industry, and hungrily looking for a place to talk about them and learn more, I stumbled upon Dramabeans. ♥

From there it blossomed into the geekfest that most Beanies can easily relate to. Whether it’s priding yourself on knowing which dramas are airing on which networks at any given moment, knowing what’s coming up and who’s starring in it, or curating a fine To Be Watched list and building a reservoir of drama knowledge — it’s all a part of tumbling into dramaland.

I’ve come a long way from my clueless newbie Boys Before Flowers days, and the way I interact with dramas has changed a bit, too. My expectations (read: demands on a drama’s quality) are not only well-established, but I’m more judicious about the time I’ll spend watching a drama, too. I’ve seen some of the best, along with some of the worst. I’ve logged a lot of drama hours at both ends of the spectrum, and learned a lot in the process. I might even have some secret frequent flier miles by now.

But while a lot has changed, a lot has stayed the same. I still love this crazy place called dramaland. Even after all these years, it’s still my secret oasis of storytelling fun. Because an oasis is exactly where it feels like I ended up, after that long tumble down the rabbit hole and into dramaland.

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I am relatively a newcomer when it comes to kdrama. I have long resisted watching them and preferred American movies. I've always thought that the oppas look like cute ladies, more beautiful than their co-stars.. until i saw a cf of Rain. Wow. So my very first kdrama was a strongly recommended blockbuster worldwide Descendants of the Sun. I have been swallowed bybthe rabbit hole despite warnings of friends not to ever start watching kdramas. Curiousity got the better of me. There is no turning back after that.

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I thought the same about flower boys being more beautiful than their costars. Then there was Gong Yoo, and I never looked back.

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Completely felt the same way about the boys looking like girls. Then Hyun Bin 😍

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And then the action stars visit the romcom world (looking at you, So Ji Sub and Cha Seung Won), and the rabbit hole gets so much more cozy.

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Isn't the rabbit hole a fascinating place?

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God bless them, every one!

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So Ji-sub is one of my favorite actors- and I actually prefer to see him in a comedy- he really understands comedy in a way that is alien to many actors and actresses.

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Then Hyun bin.

This should be the title of a new drama.

Other cool titles

My Husband, Hyun bin
Hey, Hyun bin

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What's Wrong with Hyun Bin?

Be Hyun Bin

Falling for Hyun Bin

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My Hyun Bin from Another Star
My Private Hyun Bin

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The Light in Your Eyes, Hyun Bin
Hyun Bin Chronicles
Melt Me Softly, Hyun Bin
Hyun Bin Flower
When Hyun Bin Blooms

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Strong Man Hyun Bin
Marriage, not Hyun Bin
Hyun Lovers
(now I am imagining a very long CF drama Hyundai lovers...)

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Life on Hyun Bin

My Lovely Kim Tae Pyeong *

*Hyun Bin's real name

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The Great Queen, Hyun bin. (Nope. I guess it doesn't work with just any K-drama.)

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Potato Bin
Hyun Bin's Spring
Chicago Binwriter
Hyunnest Deliverybin

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Binniebond
Person Without Flaws
What's Wrong with Alhambra?

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@redfox What's Potato bin about? Laughed my head off btw.

You guys cracked me up.

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@YY: Potato Star

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Answer me! Hyun bin!
Hyun bin IS Mr. Sunshine.
Hyun bin, baby-faced beauty
Hyun bin Hunter. (This could be my autobiography.)

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This thread is cracking me up 🤣

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Extraordinary Hyun Bin - Shine or Go Crazy
Hell is Other People, Hyun Bin is Just Otherworldly
I Am Not Hyun Bin [obviously]

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I'm loving Answer Me, Hyun Bin.

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My Hyun From The Bin
Equator Bin
Misaebin
Hyun Bin in the Trap
Emergency Hyun Bin [keep it secret! keep it close!]
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and if I am already branching out into non-korean territory:
Fellowship of Hyun Bin

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One boy is more good looking than all the girls = JDY 🥰

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Yes, you're right!

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Gong Yoo is D-I-V-I-N-E. Gong Yoo has the most beautiful legs, fingers, torso ever. I love his hands. They are the most beautiful hands ever, the fingers so long and tapered. I noticed them first in Coffee Prince. After that I couldn't stop looking at them in Goblin and Train to Busan. His legs are soooo beautifully long and slender. Remember the scene he strode up the stone steps with the sword....his long, long legs and the grace of his approach made the scene so beautiful and breathtaking.

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I’m a hands person, all the way. I noticed that about him too! He’s beautiful but also has an interesting face—not to gorgeous, like we could all have a chance with him—lol.

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funny I dont consider him handsome AT all but he is interesting and memorable and unique which is better than handsome. for an actor especially. you need to stand out and be remembered.

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@ally-le @redfox Gong yoo's not handsome. Not in the traditional perfect face way. But once you watch him, you can't stop. It's his appeal, that gruffness, or rawness? His deep, deep voice, his height, his physique? Like Lee Jae Wook of Extraordinary You, he's not handsome, but he's just so attractive, and charismatic.

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My mother adores him! She first saw him in Goblin, her first and still go-to Kdrama.

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Same, bong-soo, same. 😅

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I love someone with no height, no physique... just oozing charisma... and that is Jang Hyuk!

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Yes yes and YES!! He is perfection!!!
Not to mention his acting. So vulnerable, so calm yet so sexy. There is something insanely warm and sexy about him. I can’t!!

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He was great as GOBLIN.

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@missvictrix, this is exactly how I got into Dramaland! I mean the exact same thing. I'm sure it did for many other Beanies too. I think its the odd name of the show, Boys Over Flowers. When my friend told me about it a good few years before I watched it, the name sort of got stuck in my head, until I came across it on some streaming site, and just started watching it. I think it was a beginning scene in the first episode only where Geum Jan-di was being badass and I think she punched some bully, that just got me hooked. And then Lee Min-ho! Then subsequently I just randomly looked up BOF on Google and stumbled upon Dramabeans! My second drama was Personal Taste though!
"This is partly why, now and forever, a) a tiny fragment of Lee Min-ho will always be mine; and b) why K-dramas became like a friend to me." I feel the same.

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Going to third this entry point - though technically I started with Meteor Garden 2018 before transitioning to Boys Over Flowers, but basically the same deal.

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Same for me. I'd never even heard of Kdramas, but I have netflix, and for some reason it recommended the ongoing drama, Meteor Garden (2018) to me. I was immediately hooked on the story (although, as I find has become the norm for me, I tend to dislike and be annoyed by the FLs in Korean and Chinese romcoms and melodramas). Also, I found that I am very unlikely, if ever, to have SLS, but if I do get it, I ship the first and second MLs. (And seriously, in MG-2018, there were so many HoYay! scenes between Dao Ming Si and Hua Ze Lei that I occasionally felt like I was watching a show written/produced by Joss Whedon, who was known to cheekily give shout-outs to the fans who shipped same sex pairings, like Angel and Spike, from BTVS and Angel, including writing a dream sequence in which the two flirt with and kiss each other, to Buffy's dismay).

After MG-2018, I did some google research, and watched BoF to see the "gateway Kdrama," fell in love with Lee Min-ho (I adore Dylan Wang, but he was only NINETEEN when he filmed MG, and I was a little creeped out at drooling over a boy still in his teens!)

When I discovered DramaFever, my first two dramas were Return of Iljimae and then Goblin, so I really started out with some excellent dramas.

I am now a K-and-C-drama-holic!

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LMAO @ Buffy reference - yes to this!

Re: Dylan Wang being 19, as much as that made me very uncomfortable from a fangirl heartthrob perspective (almost as much as Riverdale's Jughead aka Cole Sprouse does), I think I preferred his treatment of the character over Lee Min-ho's... I could not tell you why, I think the character himself is hugely problematic in both versions, but... so be it.

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Agreed. And Lee Min-ho's version treated the FL better than the webtoon and perhaps the earlier versions (including the Japanese version, which I think preceded the Korean BoF) did.

I think that social changes in the years between 2008 and 2018 (or 2017, which is probably when MG-2018 was being filmed) caused some necessary updates with regard to issues like bullying, non-consensual sex, and domestic violence, to make it more palatable to a 2018 audience (although there is still a lot of misogyny in these dramas). But despite all his BoF character's flaws, I still loved Lee Min-ho!

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This is making me feel like an ancient crone because I want to say (while shaking my cane), haven't you girls seen the real first Meteor Garden from Taiwan? It predates Hana Yori, it's so old. Major problems with political correctness, and hunkier guys *cackles madly*

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@bbstl Meteor Garden with Jerry Yan was impossible for me to watch. The orange hair...*shudder* But I love Jerry Yan. I think he's a terrific actor, and that final scene with him - so short, yet so memorable - in Our Times made my heart flutter.

I prefer the Korean version, though I supported the second lead all the way, and just writing this makes me smile, because I'm thinking of Do hwa and his violin in Extraordinary You.

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@yyishere it took me about 2 seconds to get used to that orange hair! Did you know that they did wardrobe on the cheap by deciding that the characters were all "quirky" dressers, and shopped at resale shops. I vividly remember one circle skirt that was appliqued with something about the Kentucky Derby 😂

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@bbstl the original MG is so old That the only thing i remember is all the girls going gaga over F4 at that time 😂

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I realize now that i actually watched till this date all versions of Hana Yori Dango including the 1995 movie jjaja

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That is impressive!

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Same for me. I even watched the anime. Oops! I think I just exposed which era I am from hahaha

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And I've watched all the versions of Playful Kiss, and my favourite is the Korean version, and the Chinese adaptation.

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I think there might be many of us who started with BOF and then LMH lead them on.

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I started with Jdrama. I was watching the animated version of Nodame Cantabile and then the drama version. It was a pretty crazy heroin but surprisly it worked very well in drama. So I started to watch Jdramas but it became difficult to find them, so I tried the other countries mainly Korea and Taiwan. My first KDrama was Que Sera Sera and it was quite unusual, it didn't follow the typical formula that I discovered later. And here I am, but it feels like more an endless abyss than a hole :p

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Oooh, I also started with Nodame Cantabile!! (drama)

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I love the Kdrama remake of NODAMA CANTABILE: NAEIL'S CANTABILE. It has flaws but is a lot of fun.

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Personaly, I never could watch the korean version. I started but the Japanese one was so good.

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I have heard that, and tried to find it but it appears that it is no longer available.

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Yup, I'm with you, starting with Jdramas, then switched to Korean dramas when a friend recommended You're Beautiful! These days I'm watching some Chinese and Taiwanese dramas too.

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Having started with Que Sera Sear must be hard! Because there will never be a show quite like it. It is unique.

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I also started with Jdrama - my kids were all into anime and manga so I started reading what they read, and when I found out there were live dramas based on manga I stumbled upon Boys Over Flowers and discovered everything that was online - not much back then, mostly Kimutaku. In my search for more things to watch I found My Soju which also had *ahem* several stolen Kdramas, and I went for Coffee Prince which seemed to have the most buzz. It was so much warmer than Jdrama - more humorous, more down-to-earth, more relate-able, to me - that I pretty much turned to Kdrama forevermore. Wow, that was so long ago now! I was an inaugural member of Dramafever and won a t-shirt in their caption contest...I remember when all Dramabeans posts came with songs...fun times!

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I actually started with T-DRAMA'S which I got on DVD's from my library- because my son was living at home and I wanted him to retain some of his Mandarin (although sometimes the actors speak Taiwanese instead). Then, out of curiosity I brought home FULL HOUSE and tumbled down the rabbit hole... helped along by the fact that there was a Korean re-make of the T-Drama FATED TO LOVE YOU (I have loved Jang Na-ra as one of my favorite actresses ever since).

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So now your son speaks Mandarin and Korean ? :p

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Only Mandarin and I myself have just barely begun to learn Korean

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I actually got into kdramas by curiosity...I discovered in 2009 kpop first(my one big love at first sight BIGBANG via youtube mistake) and my best friend watched a kdrama Summer Scent 2003(exactly the pic posted by you) at that time and called the plot "STUPID"... In my desire to try it out for myself and somehow prove that the stupid wasn't the norm that defined kdramas even if i never watched it myself i watched 1% of Anything with Kang Dong Won and from there started watching as many as possible and mostly the newer ones at that date....My memory is a bit hazy how i stumbled with this particular one and didn't watch the same drama as my friend;i guess the synopsys wasn't appealing to me or to cringey but after finishing my own batch of drams i raved that kdramas were addicting and great to her making her give another chance(she was watching jdramas,liking them more,Gokusen ringing bells?)...being a kdrama duckling back then everything was soooo suspenful and the twists were unpredictable unlike now that have 10 years of avid viewer under my belt jajja ...Still remember looking on My Soju(older fans might know) for the dramas and was part of my daily routine...I don't regret falling into this dramaland hole because i gained much more than losing(opening my horizon to new cultures,learning korean,metting u guys)

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😁 smiling super wide at your YouTube mistake leading you to BB (the best!!!) because hitting the wrong button on my tv remote is how kdrama happened to me.

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My gateway drug errr drama was also Boys over Flowers. I initially watched it because at the time kdramas were being shown on Hulu and kept showing up on the suggested watch list. When I was younger I had loved the manga and anime Hana Yori Dango so figured I would give it a try. Me and my little brother managed to somehow binge watch the drama in 3 days. It's definitely not a good drama and I could never go back and watch it because I know it's bad. But it is ultimately what got me into dramas. I cannot name what was my 2nd drama but some other earlier ones I distinctly remember is Secret Garden and You're Beautiful which helped solidify my descent into drama watching.

It took me awhile to branch into other Asian dramas, but some of my other firsts are:

Cdrama: Ten Miles of Peach Blossoms (Eternal Love)
Tdrama: Fated to Love You
Thai Drama: SOTUS the Series

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yes, my experience parallels yours, with Hulu and BoF timelines, and cant forget my Sam Soonie! i haven't gone over to the side of posting on Dramabean walls as, even though i love the dramas, they haven't had the 'first time' kinda thrill in a while, even though Untamed (china) came close. Sad news of how the k-pop/drama stars are passing away, with all of what they earned left on the floor. I think the availability of the shows lends a huge influence on what we watch. Hulu to Dramafever to Viki,even though i have a watched a couple off license shows and then backed out, technophobe that i am. the movie Antique/Cake really got to me back then. Havent had too many fangirling on our boys Lee Min Ho or Hyun Bin or even Gong Yoo. i have though found Seun gi, Namgoon Min, Kim Jae Wook, Yoo Seung Ho, Junki, Joon Ki irresistible at times. My favorite has to be the JDrama, with the Lady Girls and Frankensteins Love.

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Flipping through the over-the-air antenna TV channels when a period piece caught my eyes on a local Korean channel. English sub was intermittent. Show didn't seem to be on a regular schedule. Sometimes it suddenly turned dead air during the broadcast. Still, managed to watch a few episodes over a few weeks.

After a few months, some time between Thanksgiving and New Years, decided to google the show with a vague description. DramaBeans recap of The Moon Embracing the Sun were the top search results. Skimmed through the recaps the found the episodes I watched. EUREKA!

After this one, City Hunter, Secret Garden, Warrior Baek Dong Soo... VIKI and DF memberships. Then cdramas and jdramas.

I don't watch much dramas or shows in general anymore, preferring reading web novels and listening to audio dramas. Still, visiting DB and checking up general viewer sentiment about dramas has become a habit.

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Obviously, Boys Over Flowers was one of the early kdramas for me too.

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Wasn't it just electrifying to find DramaBeans? You must have thought you were hallucinating when your search turned up the right show, I first googled "Korean soap opera". Then again the first drama I saw was a total soapy mess (Phoenix).

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The intermittent English sub helped. That vague description contained a character name. Not quite the spelling that DB used but google search can be quite "smart".

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Ah are you me? Lol. My and your drama pattern has been the same. High school fellows started watching a strange Korean drama called Boys over flowers and discussed it everywhere. So I just gave it a try in summers and I was hooked. Hooked definitely to the reverse harem story, seeing those good looking guys and weird jerk tsundere male lead who still ended up winning my heart. It was a whole new world. Obviously I followed it with City Hunter which I love to date but never rewatched because I know these two wouldn't stand the test of time and my maturity now. But I took quite some rest and then returned in 2013 to check Heirs . Clearly I only cared about Lee Minho at this point. I don't anymore, I also think he lacks a lot of acting skills but I will still check out the first episode of a show for him. That fragment remains, he is my first kdrama crush. Though I was a little older by that time and realized soon enough that Heirs was trash. So I started seeing recaps because the show was dropped but I wanted to see how the story went. That's when I came across DB. The only platform that acknowledged Heirs for the mess it was lol. Since Heirs had a star studded cast, every other recap site (i came across) was praising it, rather praising oppas but DB was the only place critical of it and that's when I knew I needed to stick to DB. But I didn't, I took a rest again. I occasionally checked Dramafevers facebook page where they kept mentioning dramas. I saw the comments of a few and it felt that You who came from the stars was popular. I checked that out but wasn't impressed except for the first few episodes. Then all of a sudden I saw a few of my friends discussing Healer on facebook. And I thought ok let's give this one a try. And probably that might have been the last try I could ever give a kdrama because even though I liked Bof and City Hunter, they didn't really bring me down the rabbit hole. They were just on the same level as foreign language films would be. You might try them once or twice but won't watch them forever. But I knew less. Healer was it!! It was amazing. It's run had already finished so that's when I remembered I needed recaps to check reviews and voila I landed on DB again (I might have checked DB for YWCFTS but that was only for the recaps to fill up episodes but for Healer, I stayed for the comments and the personal opinion of the recappers). After I completed Healer I followed it with my first live watched show Falling for Innocence. In summers I catched up on already acclaimed shows like Misaeng and My Girlfriend is a Gumiho and other Hong sisters shows. Since then I have been a regular both in kdramas and DB. Come to think of it, always my real life circle has brought me to kdramas. But unfortunately the people who introduced them to me, don't watch them anymore. Now that BOF is too old I wonder what show acts as a gateway drug. Is it Dots?

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Lee Min Ho is how I started finding dramas too. I think he is a terrible actor, but initially because I hadn't found kdrama affiliated websites like DB I could go through actors and he was the one I knew. Also cheers to your love for Healer, my friend and I are stilled slightly obsessed with that drama.

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Anyone who thinks Lee Min Ho is a terrible actor but has enough of a soft spot for him to give him another chance should watch Faith.

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Lol, I don't. I stopped watching his dramas awhile ago. I think the last thing I saw him in was the first episode of Legends of the Blue Sea, and I hoped out of that really quickly. He seems like a nice person, but his acting is a no for me, unless he brings back that luscious perm.I 🤣🤣

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I noped, not hoped(autocorrect)

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I have never liked his acting, but he is a completely different person in Faith.

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I am forever grateful to Netflix for exposing me to Kdramas. I accidentally clicked on Mirror of the Witch AKA Secret Healer, and I still remember the confused text messages to my BFF about what I was watching but I did not stop watching and by the end, I was hooked! I've been free-falling down the Kdrama (and all things Korean) rabbit hole ever since :) Now if only I could learn the language

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Stumbled across a Korean movie named A Millionaires First Love on YouTube while I was pretending to do an assignment back in 2008. Watched it, loved the dashing hero with the dimples (Still in Love with him)... googled... saved LOTS some of his pics on my Nokia 6300... more googling/YT... ended up watching my first kdrama... Goong (Bunked class to binge it) ....and 11 years later here I am... still exploring in this rabbit hole!

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Loved the movie back then when i watched it in 2009...I even cried...Damn,reading all this other posts aside from you,makes me feel sooo old and nostalgic for that time jjajja

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It’s okay, I feel old too... or maybe we were just exposed to k-dramas sooner that others? After all, I was only 17 when I watched Full House. Lol, yeah, I’m old now 😅😂🤣

I remember choking with my own tears while watching young Hyun Bin’s millionaire. He’s very good in movies but he has a terrible taste in dramas.

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So true! It's bizarre how many good movies he have done but at the same time how many terrible dramas to cancel them out!

I hope the next one will break this jinx. ::D

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Indeed,the days when WITHS2&Haru2Subs were my main source of subtitles seem so long time now jajjaj...Still remember the crazy that Full House was...I think i'm among the very minority of minority that didn't like the story back then and was constantly furious with the Candy...
About Millionaire Binnie i was the same,also when i watched Temptation of Wolves(as i watched almost all dramas/movies of KDW back then) i cried on silence mode soooo much in my cave in the shining moonlighy...After that was busy days looking for one OST without any clues and limited info...
being a Newbie in dramaland and having sooo many dramas it was soo hard what to see as i wanted to see so many at once jajja Burned sooo many DVD's to be sure i have them in case something happenes...
The same happened with breaching out to variety with 1N2D that i adored along the older shows...Sooo many hours went into that blackhole!
My family having a feast listening a mad seal in the middle of the night laugh with tears since back then

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I loved the subs from WITHS2! When Drama Fever came along, it was so much easier to watch dramas, but I really missed the quality of subs from WITHS2.

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Yes shout out to WithS2 subs and Haru Subs. They were awesome. After that I went on to Viki Subs. Sadly not all subs these days capture the full essence of what is said. Especially for sageuks.

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'A millionaire's first love' was one of the very first Korean movies I watched along with 'My Little Bride' and 'He was cool' after being introduced to dramaland by my cousin. Boys over flowers was my gateway kdrama too!

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MY LITTLE BRIDE was one of my first as well.

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loooooved MFL, still love HB!

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I was born into a drama-watching family. We lived in a small town where the only entertainment were watching TV together after dinner. My first venture to kdrama was Autumn in My Heart. My roommate owned the DVD set and it had this inexplicable draw that I could not comprehend even now. I hate tear-jerker and felt iffy about the faux incest, but I could not stop watching. When Officer Min touch Jang Geum's hand in Jewel in the Palace, I screamed.

I stopped watching kdrama after for a few years because I had no access to it. Then, my friend had to gift me a DVD set of Full House and I knew of the free dial-up Internet. It's down the rabbit hole after that.

It came the time when I could not wait to go home to watch the next episode of Protect the Boss and discovered that there's live recap online. One site led to the other, and then I discovered DB. Kdrama watching experience was never the same since.

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"It's down the rabbit hole [of Korean dramas] after that." I love the combination of your comment together with your name, Ms. Rabbit!

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My first was BOF too. I got tired of American shows three years ago and that's why I decided to watch it after I found it on Viki and I liked it. So I then watched Playful Kiss and found it a little weird, heh. Then me and my sister who watched only the first half of BOF with me decided to watch City Hunter and we loved it. After that I finished most of LMH's dramas before I start watching other kdramas. I took a break afterwards for about a year and went back to American shows. Then I decided to finish watching the kdramas that I just left in the middle (which were quite a few), I found myself not be able to to stop. Before I knew it I was so addicted that I feel like I can never go back to anything else. I just adore kdramas now. I rarely watch anything else. I even got bored of reading even though I was a bookworm.

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If you need subtitles, you are basically watching a book. My friend flatteringly refers to my k-drama watching as a hobby because it is basically reading and watching a tv show, while learning about a different culture.

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Okay now I feel way better about that. :)

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That's exactly right! I like your friend, it is a hobby 👏🏼

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This is great. My first drama was Boys over Flowers too. Terrible, terrible drama. It was hilarious though. Afterward, much like you I thought if I'm bored enough I'll watch another. Then I watched Coffee Prince, after that it was all over. Coffee Prince was my 3rd drama. This is going to sound really arrogant and so I apologize for my ignorance but I was like "Oh kdramas can be good." Coffee Prince will forever and always be my rabbit hole and has a very special place in my heart.

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I think my previous years of kdrama watching, including Coffee Prince, helped cushion me against the excesses of Boys Over Flowers. I finished BOF, but my mantra was "put the brick down, don't throw the brick, the screen is an innocent conduit, not an accessory to the crime." I think part of the appeal of Coffee Prince was that it was different from traditional romcoms. Although I will always be a romcom fan, I enjoy the fresher, more modern takes on the genre, especially slice of life ones.

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I love your name by the way. Also🤣🤣😊🤣 at put the brick away, hehe.

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Thank you. We call my grandson HRH = His Royal Hugo.
The brick is just a foam yoga one, thank goodness.

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I started with a Taiwanese drama my friend had told me she was watching, she kept talking about every episodes she watched giving me updates, I got impatient waiting for updates so I figured I should do it myself It started with a Kiss Finished it in 2 days then the 2nd season. Then I had nothing to watch. she gave me a list I watched the other Taiwanese dramas on there, then the Japanese ones (since I’d watched animes & read mangas before, it seemed more familiar.) having nothing left to watch I started my first K-drama: Delightful Girl Choon Hyang & that was it. You’re beautiful , Full House , basically anything I could get my hands on, anything with subs, not that it made a difference, I could barely speak English & had never watched anything with subtitles. Dramas became my excuse, I’m not watching TV I’m learning English. I only watched K-dramas after, binging everyday after school.

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There was a point where I read somewhere that learning another language would help prevent Alzheimer's, so that was my excuse when I started watching more shows than was smart. Since Korean was so different than English or French (high school req), it would really force my brain to stay in tip top shape. I have to learn a new alphabet! There are honorifics which is totally different! Dialects, idioms, history, culture! etc. etc. Of course, that led to finding out about KPop later too. (I think my spouse found Eat Your Kimchi soon after I had started listening to Kpop, and we would watch the MusicMondays together.)

I'm so glad I didn't find kdramas until after I finished college. =D

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Spouse just corrected me. I had totally forgotten that we had tossed around the idea of moving to Korea to teach, and he found the one with Martina talking about the exchange program and what it entailed.

Holy cow. So much for learning Korean helping my memory. XD

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Thanks for giving me another reason to watch - brain exercise to prevent Alzheimer's - as long as I try to learn one new word or expression per show.

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Came across an summary in a medical newsletter about what Alzheimer prevention methods might work. Might. Leaning something challenging is one, but not easy to work into scientific research.

https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2019-11-15/will-you-get-dementia-many-may-not-understand-their-risk

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So you need to exercise while watching K-dramas.

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Great, I’m covered then! Lol. 😂

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😁😁 Learning Korean is my excuse now. Even though you’d think after all these years I would have picked up way more. I’m gonna add Alzheimer to my justification list. Oh I used to watch that channel too. I feel old now. The same friend introduced me to Kpop; I don’t know which one was first Park Bom’s “Don’t cry” or 2NE1’s “I am the best”. One day over dinner she just showed me & a friend the MVs on YouTube. It was so different than what we had in my country. That’s so nice with your spouse; I wished I still had people I could fangirl & enjoy Kpop & Kdramas with in real life

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I love Simon & Martina

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I loved ISWAK~~~ curious what else was on the list?

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Same, I’ll look for it tonight when I go home. Lots of old school dramas I think there was about 20

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I’ve found it 😊 but it’s torn in half & can’t find the other half ://

_ Full House
_ delightful Girl Choon Hyang
_ You’re beautiful
_ Still Mary me
_ my girl
_ Hana Yori Dango
_ Goong
_ Fantasy Couple
_ Love is all around
_ Wonderful Life
_ My sister-in-law is 19
_ Save the last dance for me
_ Smile again
_ Heaven’s Tree
_ Sweet 18
_ Dalja Spring
_ Que sera sera (with a note telling me to watch it last which I obviously didn’t listen to)
_ Wedding

On the top of my head I remember:
_ Hana Kimi
_ Nobuta Wo Produce
_ Nodame Cantabile
_ Life
_ Autumn’s Concerto
_ Meteor Garden
_ Coffee Prince

I actually couldn’t watch a lot of them because I couldn’t find subs :/ (at the time it was more downloading & torrents (which I didn’t know how to do) & less streaming )

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ohhh there's a bunch of my favourite on here! and some i haven't seen before!
Thank you for sharing :)

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your friend gave you a list of Taiwanese, Japanese and Korean dramas! wow! I remember watching Nodame Cantabile and loving it very much.
I wonder if Heaven's tree is the same as the tree from Heaven?

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@gmelenco It had young Park Shin Hye in it, very very sad. At least that’s what I got from my non subbed watching

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Ah, if it was very very sad and had park shin hue, then yes, it definitely is Tree of Heaven. I’ve seen it like 15 years ago and just recently rewatched it during the summer and man! It was still sooooo good!

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@gmelenco Thank you for reminding me of that list again because now I can actually find these online & subbed. I can actually watch them :)

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It is my pleasure (and your list contains so many classics it’s a benefit to all Beanies) :)

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IT STARTED WITH A KISS and (second season) THEY KISS AGAIN is still best T-drama version of ITAZZURA NA KISS, the newest one . If you love the story then the best version is the Japanese MISCHEVIOUS KISS: LOVE IN TOKYO. One pf my more disappointing Kdrama experiences was watching the Kdrama version PLAYFUL KISS (except for the wondeful performance by Jung So-min - I have been a big fan ever since).

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From 2013? Is that this one: Itazura na kiss: love in Tokyo?

I’ve only watched the 2 taiwanese seasons of ISWAK. I’ll try the one you recommended. I’ve heard bad things about the korean one so I didn’t bother. & it’s been a while since I’ve watched Japanese dramas so.

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I believe that 2013 is correct. The Korean version is watchable but both the Japanese version and ISWAK are much better, in part because the story is not truncated as it is in the second T-drama version and in PLAYFUL KISS.

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I was a huge General Hospital fan. I will never forgive my Liz and Jason ship not sailing. A GH recap blog I read reviewed Fated to Love You. I was so intrigued. I kept circling around it and then finally watched. I think Googling it brang me to DB. When I really started to consume dramas I was consuming the old recaps at the same pace. I'd read them on my commute like a book.....I really need to go back and WATCH them. Anyway, looking up dramas I'd always see Coffee Prince I just went ahead and bought the DVDs. I didnt have streaming sites figured out yet, lol. Then came Secret Garden and Samsoon. I mean once you see those cheekbones....
Boys over Flowers was like crack. I was so sleep deprived and as I'd press play I kept asking myself.."What is this? Do I even like this? But I need it!!"

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"What is this? Do I even like this? But I need it!!"
This line is the perfect sentiment to describe BOF 😂

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Oh, The wonderful rabbit hole that is drama land! Mine was exactly the same except I started with *Personal Taste* in 2013. Hiatus for about a year then I stumbled upon the wonders called "City Hunter", "Moon that embraces the sun" and "My Love from the Star". Never looked back since! What an exciting 5 years as a non-native speaker and now I can understand about 60% of the drama w/o subs. Lee Min Ho and Kim Soo Hyun.. goldies...

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K-Beauty was a gate to kpop and kdrama for me, and first dramas: My Love from Another Star ( every kbeauty blogger mentioned it), Keigo Higashino Mysteries, Dr Qin Medical Examiner.

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My first k-drama was Full House with Rain and Song Hye Kyo in 2004. I was visiting my relatives in Vietnam where everyone watched it, like everybody was obsessed with the show. My eyes nearly popped out of my head at Rain’s extravagant fashion. And I mean EXTRAVAGANT. Nobody even came close to his crazy fashion from Full House days. I still remember those revealing clothes on Rain’s huge body until this day. It really was the weirdest thing to me as I was used to European and American series. I loved Full House despite all the craziness but I considered it only just anomaly and went back to my “white” TV (even though I’m not white).

It was Coffee Prince 3 years later that really pulled me into dramaland and never let me go again. My white friends used to make fun of me because I watched some girlish guys with questionable fashion but - that was before k-pop took over the world.

Nowadays dramas and Dramabeans are daily part of my life and I’m happy I found fans who are as passionate about dramas as I am.

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Great write-up, thanks @missvictrix for echoing my experience on how I stumbled upon K-drama and how it remained this oasis, like a friend I can find solace in. I also got introduced to K-drama by a classmate in grad school, who insisted I watch Boys over Flower. I watched... and nvr looked bck for the past 5 yrs! Thanks to Dramabeans which makes it even more enjoyable and interesting!

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I didn't start out with BOYS OVER FLOWERS, but it was my first modern drama. I started with sageuks (JUMONG, KINGDOM OF THE WINDS, EMPEROR OF THE SEA) and didn't even notice that they had +50 episodes. But I always ended up in tears, so I looked up time travelling dramas (as if those wouldn't end in tears pffft, I was young and naive).

Anyway, I was hooked by FAITH and wanted to see more of the soft-spoken handsome general Choi Young. So I looked him up, tried to learn his name (Lee Min Ho) and did my research of "best kdramas" on internet. And that's how I found BOYS OVER FLOWERS.

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I have to thank Haechi for somehow curing my sageuk allergy earlier this year because now I have a long list of good old sageuk I want to watch right when dramaland's offering felt a bit dry.

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Oh, what's on your list? I also have a long list of sageuks I want to watch, including BALLAD OF SEO DONG, PAINTER OF THE WIND and JEONG DO JEON.

And of course HAECHI itself!

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For now, I'm slowly savoring Jumong. Next on the list is Subaekhyang because my sister (who is a huge fans of Seo Hyun-jin) can't stop praising and recommending it. And I like historical story that focused on women.

I'm also curious about Jeong Do Jeon, though I'm not sure whether I'll watch this one or 6 Flying Dragons first. I guess I'll let my mood to decide when the time comes.

Painter of the Wind is also tempting especially since it has shorter eps, but I'm not the biggest fan of Park Shin-yang's acting. Dilemma, dilemma...

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JUMONG was my gateway drama and I love it to pieces, all 81 episodes of it.

I recently finished KING'S DAUGHTER SOO BAEK HYANG, and while it may look dated it has some wonderful acting, and is definitely more focused on women. I still find myself humming the main theme.

I watched SIX FLYING DRAGONS earlier this year. Once I got through the first four episodes it was an exciting watch, with a rocking OST. I now want to try JEONG DO JEON for a more historically accurate interpretation.

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Now that I think of it, JUMONG has several strong female characters, like Seosono and Jumong's mother. It's probably another reason I loved it.

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@wishfultoki
I'm only halfway through, but I'm already liking Sun-lan, the first prince's wife. She is such a fascinating antagonist, always appeared soft-spoken and demure, but with such sharp claws and tongue. I feel like a bad person for clapping and laughing whenever she managed to tame her husband to do one more thing in her favor.

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Full House was my very first Korean drama. Everyone else in my family was watching Korean drama, except me. Then one day, I was forced to watch Full House, years after it showed. After that I became an addict. I started watching all the dramas that were recommended, Jewel in the Palace was mesmerising, and then I watched Winter Sonata, even though there was a CD in my house on the piano pieces from the drama...had been there for years. Stairway to Heaven came next. All of these were tearjerkers, but it made me hurt in ways I had never felt before. That's the beauty of Korean dramas...you get a mediocre scene, and then suddenly, wham! they hit you with such a moving, thought-provoking line, you go, "No wonder I love Korean dramas...I can never get a line like this anywhere else."

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No wonder Full House and Winter Sonata are special for you!

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Watch UNTAMED with me Toki :).

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I'm not sure it's my cup of tea... I have seen lots (and I mean LOTS) of fanwall posts but it strikes me as more fantasy than I can handle.

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If you ignore a few zombies and don't judge the drama based on the first 2 eps you might like it, it's about a free spirited guy and his best friend. It's the kind of show you love if you like the leads.

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I totally understand and it is fantasy. It's not my kind of historical either but I didn't know I needed one after all the heavy and serious sageuks this year.

I find it rather refreshing. I've never watch anything about cultivators so it's all new and exciting to me.

I love a good adventure between two good friends which I had hoped for Hwi and Sun-ho.
I'm a sucker for sibling love. It's almost similar to Yeon, Hwi and Sun-ho but the trio had a lot more screen time together and I'm loving this darling big sister.

Anyway, let me know when and if you'll start JEONG DO-JEON and I'll watch it with you. We'll hijack some old thread and talk about it.
Writer Jung and his awesome quotes needs to be compiled in this drama too:).

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For me it was Coffee Prince. Our local network surprisingly aired it, and it was dubbed in my native language. I was indifferent at first when seeing the commercials. Then, one day my mom started watching it and told me to join her. And all it took was 10 minutes to fall in love with the characters, the story, the bromance and of course Gong Yoo! After it finished airing, I stopped watching kdramas for a while because the network didn't air other shows and because I didn't know where to watch them. A while later I wasn't feeling well, I was in a dark place. Remembering the fuzziness I felt while watching Coffee Prince, I started searching where I can watch kdramas online. So, Boys Over Flowers and Goong it was! Kdramas are the same for me: an oasis where I feel like I can breathe. Thank you for this piece! It was lovely!

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@missvictrix Thanks for this post! That’s me speaking. When my family (my hubby included) started watching BOF, I resisted. That’s until I saw him watching My Princess and I thought Song Seung Heon was really handsome. I checked it out and he became my Oppa. It was followed by BOF, Lie to Me, Goong, Prosecutor Princess, Coffee Prince. LMH was the ultimate in City Hunter, which for me is one of my top drama, only to be beaten by Chang Wook and Healer. And BTW @msrabbit I got traumatized by the ending of Autumn in my Heart but SSH and Won Bin made it so worth it.

These weren’t perfect dramas but I feel that these older dramas were more addicting than recent dramas, tropes and all. After watching an episode, there was just this great urge to watch the next one. These days I’m more selective in my choice of dramas.

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I still don't know what it is about Autumn in My Heart that is so compelling. I hate almost every trope and I am not really into oppas (yes, even SSH and Won Bin). It wasn't even a hate watch, more like bewitched watch? LOL.

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Autumn in my heart was my first makjang! I believe it was my second K-Drama watch because I wanted to see Song Hye Kyo more. I don't know what happened to me throughout the show. I was appalled by the "incest" plot, I wanted to drop, it was so boring, too soapy, and the male lead - I didn't even find him attractive, sorry Song Seung Heon fans but WON BINNNNNNNNN <3. Anyways so.... all that negativity about this drama led to me bawling my eyes out. My tears were rolling down my face nonstop. My mom burst into my room and caught me crying and she freaked out! She slapped when when she figured out I was crying because of a show I didn't understand the language, but had to read subs to know what was going on! LOLOLOLOLOLOL. Damn this rabbit hole.

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I'm sorry about your Mom slapping you but I'm laughing so hard right now. My friend's husband came home after she'd just finished an old drama (this is 15 years ago) and she was crying so hysterically she couldn't even explain why. He completely freaked out. Now we laugh about it and he just thinks we're freaks.

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Huehhehe all good! That was a very fond memory of going down this rabbit hole. People didn’t understand the craze we, drama addicts, had/have for dramas and how much they affect our lives. Totally their loss for not getting how great it is to be so emotionally attached to these fictional characters!

Anyways the rest is history since then. Whenever she caught me laughing or crying, no biggie, it’s just one of those days her only daughter was having emotional breakdown for her beloved fictional characters lol. Fast forward to some more years later, it’s my fiancé who now has to deal with me and my drama craze 😛

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I've spent 8 years in this k-drama rabbit hole and getting very comfortable here (though also a lot more hard-to-please) that I never expected myself to experience the similar tumbling-down-another-rabbit-hole anytime soon. My gateway is I Hear Your Voice, though I unsuspectingly started this 'crazy' journey with My Girlfriend is a Gumiho thanks to my friend's recommendation one day.

But yeah, hello there, c-dramas rabbit hole. 👋

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I might be the odd one out here but watching an episode or two of Boys over flowers (which was not my gateway drama) almost killed for me the drama watching experience. My first drama a binge watch of She was Pretty and i remember watching it because I was binging girl makeovers in movies on youtube and someone recommend to watch this. Park Seo joon will always have a special something in my heart.

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I once bought a seaweed wrap just because Park Seo Joon's face was on the packaging. I was both the most embarrassing and the most enjoyable grocery trip I ever made.

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Meanwhile, I have a mouse pad with Gong Yoo's face on it. My God-sister bought it for me when she went to Korea. It is still in its original plastic covering and slightly faded now. It's been 15 years after all!! 😂

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I want to see this!

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It's on my fan wall

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Hahaha... Are you me? If not for the super cheesy Boy Over Flower, I'd probably fallen to this hole years before. But one eps is enough to convince me to stay safe in my K-pop hole instead. 😁

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I'm not sure I made it to the end of the second episode of BOF. We can be the odd ones out together.

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I couldn’t get past the 1st episode, it’s so cringe-inducing.

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I got started into K-drama land when I watched a locally-dubbed version of Jumong but it didn't hook me yet. Not until My Name is Kim Sam-soon and later on Queen Seon Deok did I fall down your so-called rabbit hole. So down I went through Boys Before Flowers and other Lee Min-ho dramas - City Hunter, Faith, and as far back as Personal Taste. Then it bloomed to all the other actors/actresses that I liked - Park Shin-hye, Park Hyung-shik, Jo Jung-seok, etc. Nowadays, I usually check thru Dramabeans before I start watching something new. Thank you, Dramabeans and Beanies, for your usual guidance.

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Boys over flowers and Lee min Ho
I totally understand when you say a part of “Lee Min Ho will always be mine”
Till now, There’s always a soft spot for him.
I mean there are 1000 more better actors out there.
But thinking back about how one could win me over even with that ugly perm, I couldn’t understand how and why....just absolutely destined to break out for stardom

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Point of entry: Hulu
I was there to watch some American show (don't even remember which one) since we had cut the cord for years even back then. I now don't remember how I even came across the title on Hulu, but later I do distinctly recall Kdramas had their own "genre" tag. XD

First kdrama: Sungkyunkwan Scandal
I was doomed from the start to go headfirst down the rabbit hole.

Never stopped since then.

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HEALER, naturally (in 2016). I never looked back.

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It remains my favorite.

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Healer was really great! I loved it!

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I don't really remember how and when it all started. So here it goes.. me trying to recall memories~ 😆

I watched Kdramas/movies for a long time. My first might be Dae Jang Geum which was aired on local TV. Or it could be K-movie Windstruck which we watched at school on a huge screen (boarding school life 🤣).

Then I entered Uni, I got into Jdramas, Jpop and anything Japanese. I chose Jdramas over Kdramas because of the length. Jdramas are short and concise, and the content was more varied. Kdramas that I know of at that point of time were mostly romcoms and fantasies.

I got sucked into kvarieties and kpop somewhere in my uni years too. 1n2d's S1, Family Outing and Running Man. I remember liking Park Hae Jin when he appeared in Family Outing, cheered when he was part of the cast and went into a PHJ phase. I downloaded East of Eden because of him, using clubbox during dial up era, it took ages to complete. He wasn't in it much though, the drama itself was not memorable. But the journey to download the drama was haha! I watched quite a lot of kdramas in Uni and I think it was around that time that I discovered Dramabeans.

Got out of Uni and started working. Dramas took a rest too. DB changed it's layout and I was not a fan, so I drifted away. I don't have much data to download dramas and I have to time my downloads to avoid going overlimit. I didn't live watch much. I did join the Reply 1988 brouhaha, I was a Bora and Sunwoo shipper. I did watch The Best Hit on air for Yoon Shi Yoon and was active in recap comments.

At this time...I still didn't realize I was in a kdramaland rabbit hole. Since imo the amount of dramas I watch remain minimal, i watched dramas on and off, or so I think, I don't keep track of what I watched 😅.

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It was Life on Mars that changed it all. I joined the LoM party near mid series, and I was hooked with both drama and JKH. I started to embrace the new DB layout and post on my DB fanwall LoM and JKH related stuff. My first post was: Life on Mars is awesome! I went into a JKH rabbit hole and dug out nearly all his projects. And the fanwall was there for me to share my JKH findings.

Then came the end of 2018, The Last Empress memes took over the fanwall and I was intrigued. I skimmed through the first couple of episodes and got sucked into the makjangness of it all. One person stood out amongst the array of over the top characters: Emperor Lee Hyuk. And thus my Shin Sung Rok phase starts. It's the longest out of all phases so far. And it doesn't look like it'll go down anytime soon. I'm happy in my self-made rabbit hole.

I thank DB and beanies for giving me a space to spazz about my faves and sometimes dramas too. Mostly dramas with my faves. Hahahaha!

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Full House was my entry to K-Drama! I saw it around the time contract relationships and strangers cohabitation troupes were fresh. I remember dying from laughing so hard with all that was happening in that drama. I bought the director’s cut DVD years later, but I didn’t see this drama again. I don’t want to ruin my beautiful memory of this show by rewatching it and wondered by I was crazy for this drama. Thank you Rain and Song Hye Kyo for introducing me to K-Dramas.

You’re Beautiful was the first drama I went completely insane for a show! I remember getting up at 3AM just to catch this on live stream with no subs!!! I understood nothing but I was happy watching and spazzing over it! This was also the drama I joined a group to support the cast. Through donations, we gifted them a some treats and photobook with messages from all of us around the world.
We wanted to let them know, despite their lukewarm TV ratings, that we loved them and their show and that they were popular overseas! Throwback to that time javaneans supported this drive and shared it on DB! http://www.dramabeans.com/2009/11/cast-of-youre-beautiful-buoyed-by-fan-support/

You’re beautiful was also my first director’s cut dvd too! My obsession to collecting super expensive but very pretty DVD/bluray packages started with this show! Here’s a Throwback to that time too!!! http://www.dramabeans.com/2009/12/order-youre-beautiful-directors-cut-dvd/

So many memories!! 😭😭😭

Lee Min Ho is my first love. Doesn’t matter how trashy Boys Over Flowers was, the fandom at the time it aired was so insane; so hyped. It was phenomenal. I fought hard for Go Jun Pyo and Geun Jan Di ship! Boys Over Flowers, thank you for giving me my first love.

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Hope you guys don’t mind me sharing a link outside db but Can’t help but to share the shots when You’re Beautiful cast received our presents to them 😭😭 https://yabfighting.wordpress.com/2009/11/19/photos-of-the-cast-reading-the-yb-fan-project-msg-book/

Good old days. I love falling into the rabbit hole with fellow drama fans addicts 💘

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I didn’t even know what k-dramas were but while recovering from surgery in 2015 I stumbled upon Coffee Prince on Netflix and down the rabbit hole I fell.

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Coffee Prince is the first kdrama recommendation my sister in law gave me before I watched Goblin and I poo-poo’d the premise. How wrong I was. After Goblin and getting sucked into the world of Gong Yoo, I binged CF in 4 days, after the text of the family went to sleep—until 2 am every morning. That’s wheN I really knew I was hooked.

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Gateway to Kdramaland:
I had finished marathoning season 1 of the BBC show Luther on Hulu. While looking around for another good series to watch on Hulu, I came across the kdrama IRIS starring Lee Byung-hun, Kim Tae-hee, Kim So-yeon, Jung Joon-ho, Kim Seung-woo, and T.O.P (Choi Seung-hyun). And the rest is history.

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It started with Jdrama 'Tokyo Love Story'. Oh, how I loved Rika and hated Kanji for being two-timers / fickle and wondered was it true that you never forgot your first love (while you were 5 years old!)? Turn out, being in love with your first 5 years crush will always be a true-soul-mate to be married to, in Jdrama and Kdrama. No matter if you meet someone new that is so wonderful, thoughtful, kind, clever, responsible, loving; you just have to marry your first crush. Then, it went straight down to the rabbit hole with 'A Jewel in the Palace' and 'Full House'

However, right now, I am more selective to what I watch. More to the ones that really fit my preference, good actors, good writing, good director. And sometimes, it is still OK if the writing less good, but you have some good casts and good director. However, if writing is OK but the main casts are not deliver I may just drop the drama. Streaming opens up more series for me. So far, I really love when BBC doing detective works, all Agatha Christie's adaptations, Line of Duties, The Fall, and others like The Terror (it is superb!) or crazy Netlix's series like Black Mirror, Insatiable, Mindhunter.

And when my mind is tired for so many theories, too captivate story, too serious a plot, I go back to funny go lucky easy on eyes and shut down half of your logic C/Kdrama :) A vicious cycle, but I really like that.

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I always love your posts @missvictrix

BOF was my rabbit hole, too. My brain was like "This is so unrealistic...and misogynistic... and cheesy... but OMG I can't stop." It was Cheetos, ramen or microwave Mac and Cheese. It was SO bad, but oh so good. While, like you, my drama tastes have becoming more discriminating and selective, I still have a soft spot for shows that are both absurd and addictive. Like (please don't judge me) Vagabond, or Strong Woman Bong Soon, or Secretary Kim.

I love your Alice in Wonderland reference. We are all Mad here. And it is in Madness that we find ourselves. Sometimes, Kdrama is the Caterpillar blowing smoke into my face and saying, "Who are you?" Sometimes it is Alice screaming, "You are all a bunch of cards!" And sometimes it is the funny Tweedledee and Tweedledum, the vicious Queen of Hearts, or the poor White Rabbit trying to make sense of everything -- all the parts of ourselves that we try to hide when we enter the world of adulting.

The Rabbit Hole is permission to be crazy, curious and swept by things we don't understand. It's permission to not know everything, and sometimes, stumble my way towards a Happy Ending. Because you really need to be a little Mad to love KDramas, and to love life.

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What an excellent essay, missvictrix! I read so many sentences with a laugh (and a tear in my eye). I've been watching for so long now that sometimes I think I could almost write a drama - but then one comes along and is amazing and I thank the stars for the real writers. That thrill and the fizzy feeling are mostly hard to come by now that I have hundreds on my watched list but I keep plowing on in hopes that the next one will be, as you said about City Hunter, my next it. This year it was WWW and Be Melo for me.

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My intro to kdrama is so much like yours, missvictrix, except for "intern", substitute exchange student from Thailand. She and another exchange student were surfing the web one day, came across images of Goong and squealed in excitement. I couldn't resist their excitement and watched with them, frantically chasing fragments of episodes around the web. Back then, it was YouTube and other pirate sites, which gave me seriously conflicted feelings. I was in library school at the time, being indoctrinated into upholding copyright. But the training and ambivalence couldn't keep me away, the feels and drama grabbed my heart, and we watched the whole thing. We even found a copy on DVD at a nearby library and marathoned it for a second watch. Goong will always be one of my favorites, even though it's not everybody's cup of tea. But the costumes and music (I had been a big costume drama watcher) were fascinating and added so much to the watching experience.
From Goong I followed Yoon Eun Hye to Vineyard Man (trash) and 1st Shop of Coffee Prince (amazing!) and have never looked back. DramaBeans was a godsend to someone who was confused a lot of the time - why does she call her fiance Mr. Philip (Soulmate)?
Anyway, it's been 12 wonderful years, with more than enough great dramas to make up for a few duds.

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My sassy girl was my first Korean movie. Remember: War of the son started my kdrama rabbit hole through a Facebook recommendation.

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My relationship with K Dramas began a bit differently, but also same as many others, My College roommates, neighboring roommates and some friends were hooked on Boys over flowers, I tried it, but Jan di was too annoying for me, I didn't finish the drama.. i hated it (still do).
I watched You are beautiful with two of my best friend one of which was a newbie K drama fan. Me and the other friend started to watch it just to make fun of our K- drama fan friend and we got hooked on the the drama. I liked it very much. It did not make any sense. But that was it. I was not intrigued enough to search for more dramas.
i think 2-3 years later during a very dark period of my life i woke up one day feeling nothing. That was one of the most terrifying feelings i have ever experienced... Feeling nothing. i didn't want to go to work, or do anything at all.. thankfully a rational part in my brain recognized something was wrong in my head. I put in a sick leave and went to see a psychologist. Long story short that went really really bad. For an introvert like me it was a really bad thing to happen. I already find it very hard to share. But taking that action helped me to take next step. I just had to find a reason to get by a single day at a time. i don't exactly remember why i chose to re-watch You're beautiful at that moment. But a quick research showed me the on going dramas, It was W and uncontrollably fond, Plot for W intrigued me and I am a sucker for melodramas. Set my mind to just get through my day so that I can come back and watch this. I found dramas for every day of the week and that became my one thing I look forward to, a reason to get through my day. It took more than a year for me to start actually living again but dramas kept me going, I binge watched many I live watched many, I found dramabeans during this time. And I have a happy place deep inside this rabbit hole.

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I've been watching so long I can't remember exactly which drama - but I do remember it was circa Beautiful Days, Winter Sonata, Propose, Tomato, Glass Slipper, All About Eve - many many more or as they say - etc. etc. etc.!
and - X-Man!!! I know for sure X-Man propelled me into K-Pop. Coolsmurf was a wealth of information at that time - thank you!!!
And of course It also opened the door to Korean Variety shows (1N2D, Family Outing!) which I love and follow to this day.
I thankfully have episodes (random ones) of X-Man, so I can go back and watch the epic Danghyunhaji battle between KJK and LMK (yes! Lee Min Ki!) 😂

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It was TVB dramas all the way through childhood, high school, and then a few popular T- dramas and J-dramas during uni days.

I had no knowledge at all of anything Korean, but one day my friend pull out a VCD and say let's watch this popular Korean movie. My Sassy Girl. I was intrigued by this girl whacking the guy for no reason. Then I was so touched when the big reveal comes, along with the unforgettable song, I Believe.

After that, Winter Sonata, Autumn, Summer Scent hits big and was shown on local TV, but I just admired the pretty scenery when I happen to turn on the TV, but did not really get into the weepy romance stories.
But one Kdramas caught my attention again a few years later. My Name Is Kim Sam Soon, again the girl was whacking the guy, see the trend ? No HK/J/TW dramas has this refreshing trend at that time. And that was the start of my rabbit hole.

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In the fall of 2015 I made my first visit to Asia which was to Hong Kong and Bangkok. When I returned to the States I discovered TVB Hong Kong Police/crime dramas on Hulu.
My watching TVB (LIVES OF OMISSION, HIGHS AND LOWS, E. U., TIGER CUBS and LINE WALKER) preceded my entry into kdrama land. Police/crime/mystery are my favorite genres and those dramas allowed me to return to Hong Kong vicariously.
I really can’t describe my feelings about what is happening at the moment in HK.
Also I am always open to recommendations so I looked up MY NAME IS KIM SAN SOON (2005). Episode 16 (final) had a Nielsen nationwide rating of 49.1%. Wow! Those were the days.
The good news is that it is available on Viki (USA) under the title
MY LOVELY SAM SOON. I will add it to my watch list. Thanks.

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I hope you like Sam Soon, it's probably dated but was quite revolutionary at its time. It's my all time favorite!

I feel the same way as you about HK, watching with great trepidation and worry.

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Early in Hulu's existence they were still trying to figure out how to supply content and had a moderate free-streaming foreign series library. That's where I saw my first K-drama, the 2013 series 'Dating Agency Cyrano' with former girl-group idol Sooyoung. When you're new to K-dramas and unfamiliar with its tropes EVERYTHING is fresh and exciting. The shifts between comedy and drama, the twists and turns, its all new and thrilling. I saw a bit of this with US critics reviewing 'Parasite', flabbergasted by plot twists and tonal changes that long-time K-drama viewers would be eintirely used to.

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We stumbled across kdramas through Kpop and then KBS World. My husband wasn’t very well at the time, but we discovered we could watch MusicBank on KBS World on YouTube. Then we just left KBS World playing most of the time. So our first drama may have been a daily drama called My dear Cat.🤔 But what really got us hooked was What happens to the family. Why was this father suing his children? And that was that. Sadly, KBS World is no longer available here as a continuous stream, but Netflix and Viki do the job in keeping us supplied with dramas.

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I used to have KBS World too and I really miss it. It's how I found Kdramas.

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We miss it too. We now have limited access to some shows via YouTube, but I really miss Immortal Songs.

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For me ,i find it difficult to watch shows with subtitles.So i never tried to go and watch shows in other really foreign languages and i always thought that it would be so boring. I would not be able to connect with their emotions. Around 2009 I accidently stumbled upon a music video in youtube. I accidently clicked that video and the title said'It started with a kiss mv' something something. I couldnt understand why i even watched that, but somehow it was so interesting,even though the guy looked lile the girl and it was a bit funny watching it. From the comments i found out it was a taiwanese drama. I immediately googled the title and went to wikipedia to get to know more about the plot and the next minute i was watching that drama. For me this was the drama that led me down the rabbit hole.

After a whole lot of watching taiwanese dramas ,many people were commenting on videos to watch the korean dramas which are more popular now. Since now i was accustomed to mandarin language and i really didnt want my ears to hear another foreign language. But since i have completed watching the most popular Taiwanese dramas ,i decided lets go and check the new hyped korean drama called Boys over flowers. I watched and it made me feel like i have entered to some other very different realm. The tone,language,the culture was so different to Taiwanese dramas and instantly got hooked. I watched some episodes of BOF and skipped some and after watching the final episode i decided to go back and watch Taiwanese dramas because BOF was so trash. I thought i would never find another good korean drama. Even trying to stay away from korean dramas ,my heart didnt forget that korean language and i then started googling best korean drama of all time and my next stepping stone was My Girl. This drama completely made me fell in love wholeheartedly with korean drama.

Here i am on dramabeans,the most popular korean drama recapping site, pouring my heart over the love for.korean dramas.

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I think the subtitles were a draw for me. I'm a lifelong reader (books, cereal boxes, basically, anything with print), and the text reading of kdrama was part of the attraction. The downside is that I can't do anything else (maybe a little laundry folding) while watching kdrama, in case I miss even one word. My Girl is a great drama to get you over the edge of the rabbit hole, lots of classic tropes, sweet chemistry, and just enough shouting.

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I used to iron everything, even sheets, back when I watched BBC dramas. One day I hit the wrong channel number for the BBC and suddenly found myself in Korea! It's been all wrinkles ever since 😉

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Being non native english speaker, subtitle was a given on my early days of learning English. It's been more than a decade since I haven't need subtitle help. And than this kdrama craze starting and I'm back reading subtitles. The weird thing is that I start leaving the caption on in english speaking show eventho I dont need it. My husband think it prove his point that i have lost my ability to listen to him anymore.

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Lol. After tumbling down the dramaland rabbit hole, i also now watch all English shows in subtitles.Subconsiously i just tap the CC button.This has so grown on me now and i dont think i ever aint going back.

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I feel like an absolute beginner next to so many Beanies who have been in Dramaland like forever! My gateway was Netflix, I fell in the rabbithole through Kingdom and Mr Sunshine. I'm a fool for all kinds of historical/pseudohistorical drama, and one night I just clicked on Kingdom because Netflix told me I might like it. When I watched Kingdom (and I'm a scaredy cat, absolutely not into zombies, but there you have it) I was fascinated, "why are those guys wearing the same costume?", "what about the different hats?", "who, wait, are there different social ranks that are signalized by outfits?"...It was a totally new world for me, and I dutifully took up Netflix's rec to watch Mr Sunshine, and, again, the mix of aesthetics and curiosity for this world took hold and I started looking for recommendations and recaps online, checking out other sageuks on Viki, trying out other genres....
fast forward to finding Dramabeans, first to read recaps to better understand what I was watching, and then finding the lovely Beanie community!

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I can really relate. My first drama is also sageuk, although thankfully Love in the Moonlight is in the lighter side. I was also fascinated with the court uniforms and the hat (with the dangly beaded strap) and the stiff large belt (Is it even comfortable?). The palace setting was breathtaking. The court politic was interesting and was just the right level for me at the time. It was a a great into into a new culture for me.

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Right? My family now has to put up with me excitedly sharing blogposts about korean historical headgear and painstakingly explaining the Joseon social ranks... And all this passion kind of splashed out, now I'm listening to kpop and watching k-romcoms with my kids, my devious plan is to bring them unto the k-side, bwahaha

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Oh, this rabbit hole... I've been in for only 2+ years and I still can't really formulate why it's such a crack for me. Before that, I didn't even know that korean drama ecosystem exist!

It started as accidental stumble in Netflix with Love in the Moonlight. Looking at the period costumes, I thought it would be similar to old Hongkong kungfu drama that my dad used to rent in VHS format. It couldn't be any different 😜 I was mesmerised with Park Bo Gum. It amazed me that a guy can be so pretty yet manly at the same time. The story is not like anything I've watched from my primarily western TV diet. By the end of it, I was dying to watch the next season only to find out that there is none. I think the predominantly single season drama is the greatest shock I had going in this rabbit hole.

I tried some other random kdramas, can't even remember what... I think one of it is BOF. But i just can't get pass the 1st episode. So I thought my love for LITM is just a one off thing. But than I watched Goblin... and than I'm a goner. I forever will blame Gong Yoo for turning me into an addict. I keep searching for the next dramas that can give me the next high that Goblin gave me.

After a few years, I feel like I start getting a good grasp of kdrama taste. I get the sinfully delicious Makjang. I mean who can resist the amnesia, birth secret, fated childhood love,... 😝 I learn to forgive the annoying flashback, weird multiple shooting angles with any skinship, the common pacing lag midway of the story,... I even start enjoying the PPL. Before knowing the PPL concept, i just innocently thought Subway has got to be the most popular food joint in Korea and that everybody clean their house with Dyson vacuum.

I now have collection of fave Oppas (and Unnies) and take note of some outstanding writers and directors next drama. I've tried watching western dramas but I just don't have the interest anymore. I'm so far gone this rabbit hole that I start learning Korean (which is hard since it compete with my drama watching time).

I'm so grateful for Dramabeans recaps. I read them extensively in the early days when I still trying to figure things out. Now I'm here for the companion of fellow adddicts. I'm grateful for all you Beanies.

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I really enjoy PPL! Oftentimes it's so jarring that it becomes amusing, like when a rich chaebol mom opens a fastfood joint and everybody eats that gross looking takeaway during the whole drama. Or when the main lead survives on a fridge full of one single brand of water (because, dah, they only eat take-away). And Melo is my Nature turned it into an art form! Even my kids are starting to detect PPL and mock it. As for the tropes, I grew up watching brazilian soap operas, so it i¡was super easy for me to recognize and embrace the korean ones. It just feels like a confort-watch when predictable scenes show up now and then, bringing a kind of familiar flow to the show. That said, I appreciate it that alfa wrist-grabbing and bossy chaebols in love are gradually disappearing...

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reading these comments is great. Lee Min-ho has Alot to answer for!

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I came across Kdrama (and eventually Cdrama) when I accidentally started watching Mr. Sunshine on Netflix. I accidentally pressed it and just got so intrigued. Although the ending disappointed me it set me on a spiral of exploration into Kdrama and Cdrama, although I have a love-hate relationship with many of the dramas I watch. The one thing I can't stand is the over OVERLY dramatic drama in many of them. When things start getting unbelievable (like when our heroine gets physically assaulted by the second female lead for the 10th time and no one does anything about it it makes me want to scream at the TV. Or when the bad girl gets away with way too much. Or when some criminal organisation again gets away with way too much. Having said that, I do love them too much to stop watching them, even when they do enrage me. I guess we are all stuck in them.

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Ahhh, you too? Mr. Sunshine, so beautiful and so frustrating. Honestly, I googled "do koreans kiss" when I was watching it because all the skinship and no kissing was driving me crazy

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It was Mr. Sunshine for me too. I was sick of all the garbage on North American TV. Now, other than The Good Place, I don't even watch North American TV.

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I totally feel the same way about N American TV.

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Lol at your google search! Being from Asia the no kissing wasn’t surprising. And I loved Mr. Sunshine. I’m glad it was one of your firsts. I’m sure you are familiar with Tree with Deep Roots and Six Flying Dragons. Any sageuk beanie worth their salt will tell you that these are probably two of the best. And if you don’t just love King Sejong after TWDR, then find and watch the mini-drama, Splish Splash Love for a more light-hearted version of him.

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Six flying dragons was my n.3, but it was too much, too soon for me... I have it on hold, but planning to take it up as soon as I wrap up My Country. This time around, I'm sure I'll have more contextual knowledge and I'll appreciate it a lot more. Besides, now that I've seen Chicago TW and Secret Love Affair, I'll keep an eye for Yoo Ah In 😉.Tree with deep roots and Splish Splash love also noted!

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Yoo Ah In 😍😍😍 is among the rare gems I am so fascinated with in this wonderland of kdrama.

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You should!!!

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The first episodes have a lot of weird English and fake looking US sets, but bear with it, it gets really good when the ML relocates to Joseon

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I completely relate --- my way in was via The Meteor Garden and then to Boys Before Flowers. Everything you wrote here resonated.

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To those who have just entered the rabbit hole of k-dramaland: Beware of K-drama withdrawal symptoms!! This happens when you feel a little empty after a k-drama ends. If you haven't experienced it yet, then you haven't met your k-drama.

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That has been true for me about quite a few dramas.

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Lol, so true!

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Aaaagh... the withdrawal... It's usually followed by a slump where nothing can seems to capture my attention and you wonder if you ever feel that high again.

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Except even as I think that I can't find anything else, some time later another drama ends up interesting me only to get that feeling all over again.

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My first K-drama was Jewel of the Palace. My second was The Great Queen Seondeok. The same time I was watching these two historical dramas (and loving how "Shakesperian" they seemed,) my daughter was watching "High Kick Through the Roof." And I thought, "there has to be some middle ground." My 3rd K-Drama was Greatest (or Best) Love. And I was hooked. (addicted.)

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