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See You in My 19th Life: Episodes 5-6

With our reincarnated heroine dropping hints faster than Taylor Swift drops new singles, it’s only a matter of time before people begin questioning her identity. Some are open-minded and their suspicions are surprisingly close to reality, but others worry our heroine has nefarious intentions. Either way, knowing the truth may have unexpected consequences — and I’m not talking about only past lives anymore.

 
EPISODES 5-6

One of the things I love most about See You in My 19th Life is that the secondary characters — and their respective relationships to the leads — have a lot of substance. For me, one test of a romance’s quality is my ability to stay engaged and away from the fast-forward button whenever the OTP is absent from my television screen. This week I found myself equally — if not more so — invested in the sisterly bond between Ji-eum and Cho-won. There was still plenty of romance to go around, but it was definitely a more sisters-before-misters kind of week as we delve deeper into Cho-won’s grief and how it has bonded her to Ji-eum and affected her relationship with Seo-ha in the past and at present.

Given that she was much younger than Seo-ha when Ju-won passed away, Cho-won’s anguish was reactionary and misdirected. We see via flashbacks that young Cho-won blamed Seo-ha for her sister’s death because — child logic — he was in the car with Ju-won and failed to protect her. Although Cho-won has matured and no longer holds Seo-ha responsible, she only just now realizes how scarred Seo-ha is from the accident and how her own emotional distress and unfiltered words as a child likely contributed to the distance he’s put between them. Well, guess what? It’s time to build bridges and close that gap!

After a nightmare about Ju-won puts Seo-ha in a bad headspace, he retreats to his pool where it’s peaceful, quiet — and much to Cho-won’s worry — away from his cell phone. A panicked Cho-won assumes the worst when she can’t get in touch with him, and then finds him floating in the water. Her tears of relief as she clings to a surprised and bewildered — and very much alive — Seo-ha ease some of the tension between them.

Of course, Seo-ha’s more welcoming demeanor is largely due to Ji-eum, and while a part of him feels guilty that he’s developing feelings for her — especially when she reminds him of Ju-won — there’s no denying the positive effect she’s had on his personality. Both Cho-won and Do-yoon have noticed the changes, which is why Cho-won invites Ji-eum on their spontaneous group trip to the beach. And as we all know, in dramaland a beach trip is either fluffy filler or an opportunity for introspection and revelations. Luckily, we get both this time around.

We start with the fluff. A walk along the beach turns into a serious conversation as Seo-ha hints to Ji-eum that she’s been on his mind. Ji-eum sees it as an opportunity and asks him to date her. He declines, but his hesitation is noticeably long. Unperturbed, and with two confessions remaining, Ji-eum coaxes Seo-ha into dancing with her next to a lighthouse, which K-dramas have conditioned me into believing are peak romance. Seo-ha’s stiff awkwardness gives way to a relaxed and carefree smile as they dance together next to the ocean.

The romantic moment ends when it starts to rain, and our couples-who-aren’t-couples-yet retreat to the nearby beach house belonging to Cho-won’s family. It’s here that Ji-eum’s uncanny familiarity with the house fans the flames of Cho-won’s suspicions. But as Cho-won edges closer to realizing the truth, Do-yoon dashes her hopes with an ice cold bucket of don’t-trust-the-strange-woman-softly-stalking-Seo-ha. Do-yoon’s still leary of Ji-eum, and I can’t say that I blame him. After all, she admitted to having an ulterior motive, and most people would logically assume she’s a gold-digger or corporate spy, not a reincarnated first love.

So with Do-yoon’s words of caution weighing her down, Cho-won drowns in a complex cocktail of hope and doubt, which she then decides to mix with alcohol. In this state, Cho-won confronts Ji-eum, but even as she accuses Ji-eum of using her to get closer to Seo-ha, Cho-won admits she’s crushed and confused by her own instincts. She’d held onto an irrational hope that Ji-eum was, by some miracle, her sister. As Cho-won cries, Ji-eum is struck by the familiar urge to comfort her little sister. Even though she knows it’s a massive risk, she tells Cho-won the truth: she was Ju-won in her past life.

Cho-won doesn’t immediately trust Ji-eum and must first confirm some details with her mother. Once she’s a believer, though, their dynamic instantly changes, and Cho-won cutely reverts to being the younger sister, eager to reveal the truth to their mother and Seo-ha. Ji-eum dashes her hopes of a family reunion, though, and explains the complexities of telling others about her past lives. For starters, experience has taught Ji-eum that people don’t always react positively to the news. And as far as Seo-ha goes, well, he needs a therapist to work through his grief on his own, and Ji-eum worries that she’s already pushing her limits by being around him as Ji-eum. (He’s just too irresistible, though!)

However, that’s not the worst of it! Thanks to some vague conversations between HAN-NA (Lee Hanna), mystery character #1, and KANG MIN-KI (Lee Chae-min), mystery character #2 —who is now a part-timer at Ae-gyeong’s restaurant — we learn that there’s a potentially dangerous (deadly?) consequence facing anyone that learns about Ji-eum’s past lives. We’re left to deduce that Ae-gyeong’s mysterious illness — that she’s hiding from Ji-eum — is directly related to her awareness that Ji-eum was her uncle. So does this mean Cho-won is now in danger?! Eep!

But wait! There’s more! In addition to the two mystery characters we have floating around in the background forewarning of bad things to come, we have loan sharks — but not just any loan sharks. It turns out the boss man BANG HO-SHIK was the hired thug behind the car accident that killed Ju-won — but she wasn’t the intended target. No, someone wanted young Seo-ha dead, and that person is still unidentified.

To be honest, I’m getting a little bit overwhelmed by the frequent flashbacks to the car accident and child death. It’s starting to remind me of Why Her?, which replayed the death from Episode 1 over and over, as if we’d somehow forget that shocking moment. I will acknowledge, though, that See You in My 19th Life is at least making the flashbacks relevant to the present story being told. Last week, we learned that the core source of Seo-ha’s trauma was feeling Ju-won’s body grow cold on top of his, and this week we found out that the driver of Seo-ha’s vehicle was Do-yoon’s father — a fact that Seo-ha just learned, as well.

As I briefly mentioned last week, Do-yoon is a bit aloof and doesn’t reciprocate Seo-ha’s friendship with the same freeness as his younger brother HA DO-JIN (Lee Shi-woo). While some of this can be probably explained by the nature of his father’s death — and the fact he’s been keeping it a secret — Do-yoon is also keenly aware of his social status and how outsiders perceive his friendship with Seo-ha. And — you guessed it — this is largely why he rejected Cho-won, too.

When Seo-ha learns that Do-yoon’s father was his driver who died in the car accident with Ju-won, the two confront their feelings the old-fashioned way: by throwing fists until they’re both too exhausted to avoid talking about the sh*t that needs to be said. Although their verbal and nonverbal communication did not outwardly damage their friendship, Seo-ha still walks away with a cloud over his head. This is why, in a moment of vulnerability and growth, he asks Ji-eum for a hug when he sees her waiting outside his door.

So much progress was made with the story and our characters this week that I’m hopeful the latter half of the drama will cover a lot of ground and wrap up everything satisfactorily — even if, realistically, Seo-ha needs a 100-episode weekend drama to heal from all his trauma. Even without therapy, though, our boy is making slow and steady progress. It’s sweet how each interaction with Ji-eum reminds him bit by bit that it’s okay to smile and laugh and — most importantly — let go of Ju-won. Although, since Ji-eum is Ju-won, the water is a little murky on how much his healing is actually a form of displacement, but I’m just going to go with the happier alternative since I’m still blissfully enjoying this drama.

There was also a little bit of progress with our secondary couple this week, and it amuses me that Cho-won is just as aggressive — albeit slightly less confident — as her sister when it comes to romance. Her little slip-up in the stairwell when she accidentally told Do-yoon that she liked him? Yeah, adorable. And speaking of the stairwell — Do-yoon knows! Well, he overheard Cho-won call Ji-eum her sister, but we know he’s too practical to believe anything they said. I can’t wait to find out what happens! (Well, I know what happens in the webtoon, but I can’t wait to see it play out in the drama!)

 
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For whatever reason, Do-yoon has my whole heart. Is it the Darcy-esque shots of his fist whenever he needs to hold himself back or gather his strength? Is it his adorable yet fraught bromance with Seo-ha? Is it the way he looks after his younger brother and is consistently understated and dignified whenever that jerk tries to provoke him? Probably all of the things, but I loved him as a character this week. Not that I’m not into the other characters, but his was/is really working for me.

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I'm rooting for him to find confidence to talk back to those jerks.

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I wonder why there's no writer pick up the story about these chaebol assistant's life? In which the FL, not a chaebol heiress but just the usual office worker, has romance and chooses this assistant instead of the chaebol instead who merit only because he is rich? I find these capable, know manner, hard working assistant are more interesting than the said chaebol. Now I continue to follow this drama for Do-yoon because the OTP is not that interesting (so what if she remembers her past life with him? Is it supposed to be matter much? I think she should love him for the way she knows him right now, in the present, not how he was in the past or how he is going to be in the future, no?)

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The assistant and his relationship is the untold side story, like the commoners in sageuks, that would be great to have in the foreground for once in a drama. I always link this to the play Rosencrantz and Guildenstein are dead, which shows what happens to Hamlet’s friends when they are ‘off stage’.

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If in sageuk and those xiaxia/costume c dramas, I also want to know about the kind hearted and loyal lady in waiting's story whose life centered around the lady she works for. What she does in private time? Does she have other aspirations?

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And with the current reveal/hint stranger character #1&2 dropped this week, this - "I think she should love him for the way she knows him right now, in the present," - can't be any more truer and the safest course of action to take.

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High Society, no?

Not that this was a completely successful. And it does have a chaebol heiress who chooses the chaebol's assistant.

https://mydramalist.com/13848-high-society

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The OTP is the usual office worker and the other is chaebol assistant. If one of the otp is a chaebol heiress, especially the FL (I saw many of these) the drama will seem like trying hard to be cool ha ha ha

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That’s something we see in a lot of k drama, the normalizing of nepotism and hereditary positions. I don’t get it but I don’t think too hard about it lest it would destroy my enjoyment of k drama.

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I was thinking that you meant the chaebol assistant's life as a side story (and then thinking off-topic about spin-off of a few J-doramas, having side characters in main series being main characters with their own stories). But a drama with the assistant and an usual office worker as main leads, adding a chaebol heir and a heiress as secondary couple, sounds quite fun.

Wait, do we even have a proper main romance of a chaebol couple in which drama?

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"do we even have a proper main romance of a chaebol couple in which drama?" - it is probably dysfunctional ha ha marriage for politic, power, keep the money, etc you know the rest

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In "Revolutionary Love" ... it's still chaebol-guy in the lead, but the dynamics with his friend/assistant/literal Prügelknabe is shown more, I think. And they're rivals.

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As a reader of the original story. The assistant has an interesting arc in the story. (At least the original one)

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In the TV series, too, but there could be more.
There would be room for more resentment, and also that the show is actually on the side of chaebol-guy, even if he learns a lot and becomes less privilege blind through the show ... it only works because TV shows are almost always really on the side of adverticers, i.e. on the side of money.

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Before this drama airs, one common thread among those who have read the webtoon is how much they look forward to the second couple coming alive. And this is borne out from what we have seen now - an equally enchanting romance with very capable delivery from Ha Yoon-Kyung (Miss Sunshine!) and Ahn Dong-goo.

This adds so much to the appeal and depth of this drama.

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I was one of them, lol! Do-yun and Cho-won have soooo much period drama-like subtlety and yearning. It's incredible.

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The second leads romance has all the angsty feels in the right dose. I am so looking forward to this.

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Where can I actually read that webtoon now? I can only find the first 7 episodes.

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It bothers me that he cares more about what other people think than his feelings or hers. Unless he's worried that he's somehow going to get her hurt, I don't know why he cares that deeply. His pride is not a good thing here imo. He's letting people who don't even matter dictate his life.

It's as bad as rich person not wanting to date a poor person because they are afraid of what family and friends will say. Except this is almost worst, because the people he is worried about are not even family or friends. He's rejecting her based on nothing but her status. It's not even like her parents are fighting with him or anything.

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It does feel a little like "I'm hurting you to protect you" even though Cho-won is a pretty tough gal. I know the jealousy trope is eye-roll-inducing, but I'm waiting for some awesome, handsome guy to woo her to make Do-yoon realize that she could give up on him.

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From my perspective, it would be really hard to be in a relationship that basically everyone else thinks is a bad idea. (And maybe not everyone does, but it probably feels like it's everyone.) In my own overactive imagination, if I was in this situation I would think that a relationship would be great and we would be happy for a while, but that eventually Cho-won would get tired of constantly having to explain herself or defend herself and her choices or trying to ignore peoples' hurtful comments, and that would put a strain on the relationship. So maybe he thinks he's just saving everyone a lot of time and heartache in the long run by rejecting her now. Especially since he's encountered similar sentiments by being friends with Seo-ha, it's probably made him extra wary. Is there some noble idiocy going on? Sure. But I can understand where he's coming from.

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@daebakgrits Your recap is so funny. TS, alcohol mix, 100 ep weekend healing drama , sisters before misters, "Why Her?" drama trauma...Hahaha 😂😂😂

The actor playing Cho Won is definitely going to land a main role or a lead role soon. She was absolutely winning in that vulnerable confrontation scene with Ji Eum ❤ Even the child actors continue to be exceptional.

This show has my whole heart whenever it does not focus on the main romance which is bland and fizzling instead of sizzling. Yeah, I know the ML has tragic upon tragic going on for him, but in other dramas I could still feel the slow burn romance in ill fated OTPs. I want the leads to remain friends because that is the vibe I get from their relationship.

As much as I am worried about Ae Gyeong, I the tricky rule of not revealing about one's past identities to people makes sense because it wouldn't allow their beloved to move on from the grief and live their life to the fullest. After all past is past.

Since, Do Yun now has everything in the open with Seo Ha, I think it would do him good to quit and find a job elsewhere. Working with a friend is a joy, but not at the cost of getting his status/pride constantly disparaged.

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It is weird that the director/editor chose to spend so much time with FL as a person being obsessed with her 18th life romance when she was equally desperate and longing for her other family members such as her mom. Also, the deliberate choice to inform the audience of protagonist's past failed loves very late into the drama is not working in favour of the current life romance.

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I completely agree. I think that the drama adaptation is really not doing a good job with the main romance. It wasn't that great in the webcomic, but I remember being more invested in it than I am with the drama.

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Chae Jong Hyeop as a potentially tragic rickshaw driver in the 1920s deserves his own drama.

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Yes, I did wonder if he and the lady in the rickshaw were lovers. that exact relationship played out in one of the audiobooks I listened to recently. I won’t say which to avoid spoilers.

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I finally wrapped up Love All Play, and I instantly wanted more CJH goodness as soon as I saw it on 19th Life. He wears the same goofy, lovable smile. More pls.

The drama doesn't explore it, but how interesting is it that souls are gender fluid and so it their love.

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Really? Now I'm going to have to rewatch the episodes because I missed CJH as the rickshaw driver. I like this actor from Love All Play and Unlock Your Boss, and he has some upcoming series that I'm patiently waiting for.

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CJH is seen in flashbacks of Ji Eum's 16th life. He was a rickshaw driver during the Japanese occupation of Korea. He played guitar and composed a mournful tune. The same melody is played on the piano by Joo Won. I have been looking for that melody, but the instrumental tracks have not been released yet.

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Woof, this show does not rest on its heels, huh. I loved all the progress and development on the sisterhood front and the boy's little apologies to each other after their literal playground fight had my whole heart.

That being said this week was mostly me yelling at my screen "What!! No!! Not Ae-gyeong!!! Noooooo!! Leave her alone!"

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i loved that the fight happened in the playground, so symbolic of how far back and deep the issues went.

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I just to start off with ... My heart ....

That gorgeous beach / ocean scene, that dance and how happy Seo Ha seemed (with that smile of his).

I am happy that her past lives (not just the 18th) are starting to show up more and I liked it because it's starting to show how the Ji Eum is being shaped by her past and past connections.

My heart also went out to Lady Choi (no!!!! Don't die!!!!!) 😱😱😱😱😱😱 I sincerely hope that there's a cure for the consequences of knowing Ji Eum's reincarnation because if Cho Won also dies too, I will be 💔💔💔💔💔💔

I got a shocked when episode 6 ended, it felt so short! And we are officially half way through this drama. I hope my heart holds out

And 😏😏😏 did anyone else notice Min Ki's broad shoulder ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ when he was sitting and staring at Ji Eum's room door? Gotta rewatch Episode 6 tonight 😘😘😘😘

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Many typos :(

... By her past lives and immediate past life connections.

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Thanks for not deleting and just correcting below.

I am hoping the dead plants is the only consequence for the female lead’s family members and the fact that the two other reincarnated people are like her must mean they have found a way round the problem and are there to help not hinder our female lead. Please, don’t let them be baddies.

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Could it be that those 2 mysterious figures are people from her past lives with different reincarnated faces?

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Yes definitely. I think the woman is Seoha’s mum I think they both are connected to the female lead and Seoha because it is a murder rather than natural death. I almost wonder if there was something suspect about Seoha’s mum’s death too hence her coming back. I can’t work out the man as he seems to have been connected way back to a previous life and I wonder if the female lead was killed more than once so he is from one of those times and has been around her in the past too but not revealed himself as he learnt the hard way when he experienced the death/illness element of those he loved.

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@reply1988 I think she is Seo-ha's mom too. There's no way she came to look at just Seo-ha from a distance.

It begs to ask the question : when did she begin reincarnating? It seems like this is her first time? Or this is is not her first time but her first time leaving someone so so precious to her behind that she felt she had to invite Ju-won's family to be Seo-ha's new family upon her passing? Or perhaps she has seen what happens when she leaves her loved ones behind and the family she left them with turned out to be douchebag à la Seo-ha's father kind of individuals.

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My gut feel is that they are not baddies. If they were baddies, they have had opportunities to kill off Ji Eum already, if not, the people that matters to her.

I am just enjoying the ride and not worrying too much about the plot (too few brain cells left) so whatever comes my way, I'll take it as long as it isn't too outrageous plus as long as they are eye candy.

So far, I like all the actors/ actresses in this drama.

I was considering deleting the original comment because gosh, so many spelling and grammar errors plus my sentences weren't coherent 😆 but I'm sure you all get what I mean. And I was too lazy to use my thumbs to type out everything on my phone again.

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My first thought was grim reapers - but as episode 6 showed - they might be characters from past lives with some plan to stop or prevent certain things from happening.

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@epyc2010
But didn’t they have those shaman things. But yeah I think they want to stop this and fix the reincarnation bug!

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I won’t be surprised if this will be the last time our FL can see her previous lives by the end of the drama.

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@daebakgrits thank you for the weecap. The joy of watching things unfurl with like minded beanies as the weeks pass is why this site is the best community. I echo @emsel you had me at ‘sisters before misters’🤣. When Chowon made an unplanned confession to Doyoon in the stairwell I felt it for her as that is exactly the kind of mess up that we can all relate to and no amount of verbal auto correct is helping people unhear it🥺 The status battle is real but I hope it doesn’t stop Doyoon from accepting that his heart has already gone all in. Her family are lovely and I hope would be more than willing to have him and his brother in their family.

The conflict and uncertainty about whether to connect or observe from afar reminds me so much of the female leads in Hi, bye, Mama and Go back couple who missed their mum’s. On a side note did she really think she was in any way hidden from her mum and sister when she stood behind the bush that only partially hid her face?

I also agree the car crash random inserts are exactly like the frequency rate of the one in Why her. The only other show that brought back a similar vibe was Mental coach Jegal which was worse because they showed the random body drops as well as explaining them in his unofficial therapy sessions just in case anyone missed it at the back. I know the stunts costs money and the people who coordinate it need recognition to get their next job but it’s the worst kind of PPL and is traumatising. I dread to think what it must do for anyone who has witnessed any kind of car crash in real life.

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Oh! I see. It's just that we are not the ones the PPL is mainly intended for. It's for their resume and for film and drama directors to see.
Why Her was good with it but the number of times didn't make me used to it. It shocked me each time. Surprisingly I've not been reacting to accident scenes of that manner after Why Her? Even the ones that imitated Why Her? exactly don't freeze me anymore after the first shock value.

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Well done 🥳 looks like the amateur attempts at exposure therapy have worked and you have been desensitised, unfortunately this approach won’t work for me. It’s so bad I still have to say to myself it’s ok it’s a Japanese/Chinese drama whenever I see a zebra crossing or white truck.

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Gimme all the hugs! Two lovely ones this week.

I didn't expect the sister reunion to hit me like it did with the uncle & niece one. Ji Eum and Cho Won's hug brought tears to my eyes. Cho Won was so sweet and earnest. I could see how much she missed her big sis. Ji Eum's shocked, but happy face was also touching. This was such a wonderful scene.

Really enjoy seeing Ha Yoon Kyung in this drama. She exudes kindness and affection as Cho Won. I get a kick whenever I see her get into her big ol' truck too.

I'm glad that Cho Won and Do Yoon have their own side stories (not their pairing) that aren't fluff. Can't wait to see their romance develop though!

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The sisters arc is done really well, built with tensions, emotions and then joy. The end results are tears all around in and beyond the screen.

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This chick is weird and I’m constantly torn between liking her weirdness and being weirded out by it. (So does that make me Seo-ha?) I loved her telling Ae-gyeong that Cho-won knows how to keep a secret, followed by Cho-won spilling the beans left and right like an overstuffed burrito. And how could Seo-ha possibly have not known that Do-yun’s father was his family’s driver? How could Do-yun have kept that secret for years from someone so close to him? Even if Dad was paying him to keep mum, how do you shut up the younger brother who looks up to Seo-ha? Nah. But that’s a quibble; overall, this is still cracky fun and I’m looking forward to more mystery and to Seo-ha and Do-yun being irresistibly drawn into the sisters’ orbit.

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And how could Seo-ha possibly have not known that Do-yun’s father was his family’s driver?

I was legitimately baffled by this, I kept muttering to myself that I thought he knew, lol.

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I was surprised too! My only guess is that he was so isolated due to his own grief he barely saw what happened around him.
I don’t think he was friends with Do Yoon at that point in life. And he was never told so never knew.

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Usually in dramas, the rich kids have met or come across "the help's" kid, especially if they're around the same age. Then again, young Seo-ha was not the most friendly. A driver was just a driver to him. If his mom were alive, they would have gone to the driver's funeral and paid their respect to the Ha brothers.

It was about maybe 7 years before they became friends and he probably only knew Do yoon's dad as just Do-yoon's dad who died. I have a friend of 2 decades and her dad died when she was a little kid, before we met. I have never seen his pic, and I never went "hey! How did he die?"

And Seo-ha never suspected the accident was a murder plot, so he didn't look up any articles surrounding the event.

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I'm wondering if that's why Do-yun is holding back from Cho-won, in addition to the class divide. Like, his father was the driver in the accident that killed her sister.

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Very likely!

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I am thoroughly enjoying this drama!

That being said, I really wish we had steered clear of the child-murder TOD plot ::groans:: Like, it’s terrible enough in a saguek but even more f’d up in a modern day setting. I’m also just not really invested in the hotel management struggle or the nasty stepmother story. It’s just kind of blah and a boring thread in an otherwise unique story.

What IS piquing my interest are the mystery characters and the potential detrimental repercussions the FL’s actions have on those from her past life. I’m still not sure if I want the OTP to end up together or heal each other and move on, so it will be interesting to see how that will be affected by said repercussions.

In any case, the weekend cannot come fast enough!

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Wasn’t the car accident/murder of a rich person in another drama I think it was Shopping King Louie and it was complicated by a mistaken identity due to his watch being stolen.

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The gangsters stole his clothes but FL’s brother loans him his own because he’s a good kid deep down. But when Louis comes to, he’s dressed garishly.

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The main romance being bland and somehow forced takes from my enjoyment watching the show. Other plot lines like the second lead couple and the mysterious two new players are more attractive. Actually, aside from Joo-won breaking introverted Seo-ha's walls as children and then the trauma post the accident, I don't find a reason behind that "epic" love story that transcends life times.

Also, I am glad Do-yoon's father is the driver ( Something I correctly assumed Horray) and not the culprit. A story with him being the truck driver and Do-yoon feeling guilty about it would be too off-putting. But this way is better. ho do I feel it is the father not the step-mother behind it all? The meeting with the suspicious man, CEO of security company, is getting me nervous.

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Same! The main romance back story does nothing for me! It feels weird that a 14 year old girl would be ‘attracted’ to a younger boy. And they didn’t share enough of their past lives for this romance to matter so much in her 19th life. What about all the other relationships that she has had? Was she her married? Did she ever have children? What about those? Why does Seo Ha matter so much?

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But that’s why it’s great that Ji Eum wants to make Seo Ha fall in love with Ji Eum. He shouldn’t be in love with the past. It’s gone. I haven’t read the manwha, so no spoilers but it would be great if she is reborn in some way and sheds this curse of hers while somehow maintaining her Ji Eum identity and relationships.

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For the very first time, I'm noticing a kdrama where the FL's family is like as super rich as the ML's. Cho-won's car aside -which is an obvious PPL right in my face- , a vacation house! In the woods!! The writer really crafted this world very well.

I kinda guessed right that Ae-gyeong's illness was due to Ji-eum but not because of knowing Ji-eum, but due to Ji-eum being around her for close to 14 years now. I don't want it getting detrimental. But then, Ae-gyeong has know her for up to 14 years now so I guess there's enough time for Ji-eum to find a solution for Cho-won, her 18th life mom, and Seo-ha. I just don't want Ae-gyeong to be the test-run for it. She has to survive.

I'm already scared that this romance will end along the lines of " Ji-eum loved them enough to let them go".

Cho-won is adorable. Period. And what an aggressive chick. I was laughing at her as she went on and on.

Truthfully, I'm not a Do-yoon guy. He's not bad, but he's not too open either. And he's not Ji-eum's fan, nor did he verbally accept Cho-won's hand(just a quibble, not a reason). I understand why he's acted this way and with the new reveal about his dad working for Seo-ha's family, I see more why he has this kind of dynamic with Seo-ha as opposed to his younger brother. It cool for me that his reason for rejecting adorably aggressive Cho-won's hand is due to the class divide and I want him to walk through that in his own pace but not for too long. Don't keep that lady waiting. I do admire how he deals with Seo-ha's father. Seo-ha's father might get the information he wants from him, but he's not going to have him in his hands.
Seo-ha's step-mum's right-hand man...I hope we are not looking at a birth secret of some sort here. He spoke like those men who birthed a child in someone else's home and are well aware of it. Perhaps her son is his and is not even Seo-ha's half brother at all.

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If she isn't some rich family's daughter, Seoha's father wouldn't allow her swimming in the same swimming pool with him 😂

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A better question is would he even be around to kick against it. Was he even existent during Seo-ha's childhood or let me put it as Seo-ha's mum's last year on earth. I don't remember seeing him at all.

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He was. There was a scene where Ju Won witnessed him and the "mistress" hugging. Blink and you will miss it 😬

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I like the two female leads, in this one, and I did think the reestablishment of sisterly bonds was the best use of the reincarnation fantasy so far. I’m not so crazy about the romance anymore, because the childhood trauma is just being way overdone. I’ll bet that the whole reason she reincarnated so soon was to serve as the angel of mercy to help both Do Hun and her sister, but, maybe, due to the well-known evil side-effects of telling people you’ve been reincarnated, she’s doing nothing but bringing up the trauma while causing garden plants to die.

Still, do we need to see the accident over and over again? And then we have a second male trauma sufferer—a guy who is brutally mean to the woman who loves him, because why? He suffers the indignities of class! Undoubtedly traumatic, but millions around the world are able to be nice enough to their romantic interests while suffering much more. It really does raise the question for me why these beautiful women have fallen for these particular men. The guys don’t even have a helicopter at their disposal.

I still feel the reincarnation is being underused as a theme, except to highlight a variety of talented child actors. Perhaps that sinister shaman will eliminate the accumulated memories of her past lives, and the point will be something about identity and memory, or alternatively, more positively, about shedding the burdens of the past.

One more thing about reincarnation—I thought in Korea it was primarily a Buddhist concept, so what is the shaman doing in there? Having asked that, I do recall in that theological documentary, The Heavenly Idol, that the evil seaweed goddess was performing rites in Catholic Church, so I know that religious syncretism exists in Kdrama cosmology. Also, regardless of what religious faith you are, there’s no more jarring sound that one of jingling bells!

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Sorry, I meant reincarnated to help Seo-ha recover.

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The class divide is done better in the comic, IMO. In the comic Cho-won acts much more like a chaebol.

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That's good, because here Cho-won is so beautiful, loving, and nice, that Do Yun's behavior is inexplicable. Also, the only scene in the previous episodes that even implied affection was the one where he was observing in the garden. But that could have been taken several ways, as could the fist clenching when he is really mean to her. It could mean that his rage was at her, not that he is conflicted over love.

I think those who up to this point in the show are seeing this secondary romance as something really sweet and meaningful are anticipating what will happen, rather than judging by what's happened so far.

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In the webcomic Do-yun's feelings are even more of a mystery which I liked. But I'm a sucker for unrequited love angst, so of course those two hooked me. And, yes, their story also got REALLY good in the later chapters. I'm a little disappointed by how the drama's handling things overall, but I think it will do them at least some justice,

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“The theological documentary”! Truer words have never been spoken!

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>a guy who is brutally mean to the woman who loves him, because why?

I wouldn't say he's mean but cold. If he is indeed interested in her but avoids it because of money, that might say a lot about his vanity. If that's true, he's kind of detestable really kkk. And of course everybody loves him.

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“With our reincarnated heroine dropping hints faster than Taylor Swift drops new singles”
The writer of the recap deserves an award.

With that said- I’m watching too many dramas simultaneously right now.
Despite some minor hiccups here and there, See you in my 19th is the one I’m impatiently waiting for every week.

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Thank you for the recap DaebakGrits.
I continue to love everything about this show and look forward to each episode.
All the actors are on par, including the children, portraying three dimensional characters with each backstory now forming.
The show isn't dialogue heavy so each actor is having to do the hard work of portraying subtle emotion via facial expression or body posture and movement.
Chae Jong Hyeop was only in the show for a couple of minutes this week and boy was he exceptional.
I love the exploration of grief and how it impacts on each individual character.
I love that Seo Ha is aware of how weird and difficult her behaviour would seem to others and the conflict of being Ji Eum or Juwon to Seo Ha and all that it entails.
There is no easy answer, life is difficult. Remembering 19 lives is bittersweet and a curse in itself.
Honestly, I could watch a spin off show about any of the characters on the show, they are so interesting.
Cinematically the framing, styling and visuals continue to be stunning.
The OST supports the story so well.
I am sad we are halfway through the run.

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I commend your kindness @daebakgrits: I would have written "...faster than Taylor Swift dumps her boyfriends."

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I need Do-Yoon to find the courage to let himself being happy. The jerk doesn't deserve the attention.

Hug scenes are the best! I like how he asked and she didn't hesitate. It's nice to see Shin Hye-Sun with a very tall actor.

Ji-Eun and Cho-Won were so touching. I love their relationship!
Han-Na could be Seo-Ha's mother reincarnation and she still remembers her past life? She changes the flower, she knows about Ji-Eun's secret, she was happy to see Seo-Ha, not as happy to see Lee Sang-Hyuk in the corridor.

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I came for the romance, but find myself more interested in the FL's past lives, and the consequences of having lived, loved and lost so many times. However, I am willing to let ABH convince me otherwise on the romance in the next 6 episodes. I love how he's cracking open, bit by bit. Whereas, SHS excels in the emotional beats with her niece, sister, mother, etc. With ABH, her character swings between manic pixie dream girl and...can't find the right word...maternal, sisterly, some kind of non-romantic love and concern for our traumatized ML.

How will 19th Life wrap up so quickly and satisfactorily with so many threads? Whereas that other hotel show not only gets 16 episodes, but each one seems to be feature length?

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I like the mystery, but three characters who can remember their past lives is too much. Especially after Ji-eum told Cho-won that she was different. We didn't need Han-na, who wasn't in the webtoon. Ji-eum causing the people in her past lives to be sick is so cruel. Imagine the guilt that she would feel if Ae-gyeong or Cho-won die, then having to carry the guilt to all her next lives.

Do-yoon is becoming my favorite character. I love how cold and stoic he is, yet would do sweet gestures like waiting for Cho-won to get off work and taking her arm and guiding her to the car. "Focus on walking when you walk," squee! I laughed when he recited word for word Ji-eum and Cho-won's conversation in the stairwell. Little brother Do-jin was cute when he met Ji-eum; I want him to meet Cho-won and call her "sister-in-law" too.

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Do-yun's line made me giggle because it reminded me of my husband, who gets mad and says stuff like that whenever I accidentally injure or almost injure myself (which happens a lot, I'm very clumsy).

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Yeah - once you have multiple characters who have this unique ability, it sort of pushes this from a weird quirk in reality to something that feels like it has to be something bigger.

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Last article on the show I commented that it wasn't so much a fantasy comedy as a fantasy melo. I'm amending that comment to now call the show a fantasy makjang.

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I didn’t expect the emotional aspects to hit so soon. The sisters acceptance was lovely. Also Seo Ha seems to be finally leaving the spot he was stuck inside for years. It was a lot of handle. And that final hug. So precious.

Everything is wonderful in this show. But I didn’t expect it to go dark so soon.

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the build-up of Ji-eum's revelation to Cho-won was really well done and the sisters' arc is what's really keeping me attached to this drama... in all honesty I'm not buying the romance (the same goes for a lot of the other dramas I watch so it's most likely a me problem) so I don't quite mind even if the focus was on Ji-eum reuniting with her 18th life's family lol

that said, I can't wait to see what's at stake in next week's episodes... though they've set up Min-ki to be quite the ominous presence I don't think he'll be our antagonist in this story

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First I want to shout out to Ha Yoon Kyung(Cho Won) because the way she matched Ki So You(young Cho Won) in the crying and mannerisms was masterful. I cannot wait for her lead roles. To say I sobbed when she told her about being her sister and then the hug when she decided to believe it, woof. I love all her interactions with her past relatives.

The way she fought those thugs was hilarious. She also did it in fabulous heels.

Onto our leads. That hug would have been better if he used his arms to hug her back. Also I love that this drama seems to understand the power of hugs. Sometimes you just need comforting.

I noticed some beanies annoyed with the constant flashbacks, I do believe it is the directors way of trying to get Seo Ha to remember what she said to him before she died. He is just trying to make it out, that is why they keep showing it, also in each flashback they add something new I noticed.

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Yess I love how Cho-wons' crying matched! And let me go and rewatch the mannerisms.

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Cho-won knows the secret but has a hard time coming to terms with the possibility. The ulterior motive to get Seo-Ha makes sense to her but the other signals are too strong to make her angry and confused about Ji-Eum. It is torturing her. Cho-won is more angry than elated which is something Ju-won would not expect. Will the Episode 5 reveal bombshell truly be a regret since the reason why Ji-eum remembers: it destroys her loved ones in her past lives? When she reveals her past to her past loved ones, cosmic forces take that away from her. It appears the part-timer is a reaper of sorts and Hanna seems to be his helper (but also Seo-Ha’s mother?). The rule is apparently if you remember you past life and tell someone from it about yourself, bad things will happen to them. In other words, the cost to balance the past memories with the present is if revealed someone from her past has to be taken away from Ji-Eum.

We learn that Seo-Ha’s mother got sick and died, but why was she erased from the family and her son? There appears to be a parallel to Ju-Won’s her life- - - he was the target of the accident. Was it to eliminate his mother’s past memories because she also was reincarnated with memories? Do-Yun’s father was confirmed to be the driver who also died which is the reason Do-Yun is “close” to Seo Ha’s family. The introduction of Mr. Im as the Chairman’s lackey puts the murder mystery in an unflattering light. Why kill his own son? Or was this a misdirection so he would not learn who did it?

The fantasy-romance is quickly turning in to a melodrama with the inclusions of grim reaper vibes. A cascade of villains will be leashed upon our leads which will hijack the original premise. The set-up has now changed to someone having to make a noble sacrifice in order to balance out Ju Won's reincarnation.

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Not going to lie, Do Yoon and Cho Won have got me fully onboard their ship and although the waves are a bit rocky at the moment, I know Do Yoon will turn it around eventually, but he better do a good job after rejecting our cutie Cho Won this many times...sigh.

And because of this couple, I ended up binging the webtoon LOL. Can't wait for the next episodes.

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Unfortunately, this week was not as exciting as the previous two((( Do we really need some ADDITIONAL supernatural angst here? I'd say FL and people around her already have enough of that thanks to her. ahem, uniqueness. This better NOT be yet another "don't mess with karmic order even unintentionally or else" kind of story, I'm SO fed up with them currently! Niece better to live long enough to get confused over how she should address her uncle's kids with Seoha lol.

Speaking of which - is it just me or OTP's relationship progression slowed down a lot here? Boy's been fighting his attraction to JE for quite a while now, and his reasons of keeping that up remain the same, so it started to feel stale. We know for sure he doesn't exactly want her to stop and that he did pick up her uncanny resemblance to JW. So I expected him to make a step or two towards her as well, if only out of curiosity, but nah, he locked himself into his shell even deeper than before and I'm losing that nice initial feeling that there are indeed TWO people in this tango. Sorry, not a huge fan of watching someone dancing around a wall. Same for DY and CW, but x infinity - what does she sees in him again? No idea. Echoing @hacja 's sentiment here - whatever dude's valid reasons to reject the girl are, he certainly doesn't have to be such an ass about it. It's almost as if he's angry at her for giving him feelz he's not into acting upon, so he lashes out on her again and again... Meh. She deserves better.

Sisters reunion was cute and touching. Is the mom next, since she seems rather open to potential big reveal? I mean JW's one - sus dancer (?) girl that may or not may to be SH mom's reincarnation clearly has different plans, likely mostly involving unleashing whatever karmic curse she carries around for her past life contacts on her hubby's mistress. That I support wholeheartedly. Btw - was daddy Mun the one who ordered to ToD kids? I initially suspected mistress because duh, but now... And is that good for nothing guy Seoha's step bro/half-bro or what? I. Need. Answers.

P.S. If you have a habit similar to SH's, be kind to people around you and install "I'm not drowning, just meditating, don't worry" warning near the pool.

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I like what you are saying about it taking two to tango, but can't you dance the flamenco by yourself?

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From very little I know about flamenco it can be done solo, and FL certainly does it well - figuratively at least, idk how good her technique actually is. But it's a romance, so there should be duo moves as well... "SHS is awesome" is enough to be the whole plot itself, and we've seen such dramas before, but even there her MLs did some footwork too. Girl can't dance on her own for all 12 episodes!

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I watched a lot of Flamenco performances when I was in Seville and it is an extraordinary art form. I am just a Flamenco lover with no dance expertise but SHS dancing leaves a lot to be desired imho. At their best, the Sevillian dancers were joyous, rebellious, achingly beautiful and deeply soulful and made me weep with awe at times. Nothing comes close to seeing those dancers (of different sizes and heights) dominate stages and harmonise via dancing with the Flamenco guitar players and singers. The memory of one particular performance in a small beautifully tiled inner courtyard still sends shivers down my side.

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‘Spine’. Honestly, my stupid IPad!

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I sort of enjoy the angst of holding back feelings, but I'm also like "omg, these girls are hella pretty and charming. Seo-ha and Do-yoon better take up the offer to be these girls' bfs quick! Don't complain if the girls look for more receptive partners!"

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Honestly at this point I would've probably drop this drama if I binged it (discussions really help to keep interest), because despite rather unique premise and good cast it's just not WOW enough currently, especially after all the disappointing developments this week. Maybe if they manage to pick up pace in the second half and deliver a solid ending...

I can sort of understand Seoha holding back since his dilemma is a rather complex one (and even that excuse is wearing off already), but Doyoon is seriously getting on my nerves. There better be more to his behavior than just class insecurity so I can stop wishing for Chowon to grow some self-respect and drop this fruitless pursuit every time these two have a shared scene.

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I really hate some of the changes this drama has made from the comic. The comic had the PERFECT story. They're adding unnecessary things that will just bloat up the story. I was already worried about only having 6 eps left, and that was without the new stuff they've added. These new elements probably won't get the attention that they deserve.

I feel like the additions are also making the romance and relationships suffer. Like someone was saying last week, they need time to breathe. The drama's focus on the past lives may be more dramatically interesting, and cinematic, but I think it's making the main relationship suffer a lot. In the comic, you felt like Seo-ha fell for Ji-eum, not just Ju-won.

I'm wondering too, since they made Do-yun's father the driver, if that's another reason he's holding back from Cho-won. That would actually make a lot of sense. The second leads were my absolute favorite part of the webcomic and that's holding even more true here, because like I said I think this drama is kind of flubbing the main romance.

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Oh, one more thing, I don't like when romance dramas get all dark and angsty. The webcomic has enough life or death stakes and angst without adding EVEN more. This drama is definitely better than King the Land, but at least King the Land seems to have understood the assignment.

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I've found myself more interested in the reincarnation stories and their consequences than the present day romance. That shift from the comic might be one of the reasons.

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Before I forget, I wanted to make a special mention of Cho Won's doll.

I had them when I was a kid!!!!!! I had one in blue and one in yellow. It was amazing because it looked exactly like me then, with my 2 dresses in blue and yellow 😂

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and here it does look alike to little Cho-won too, with curly hair and crying face, doesn't it? I'm quite sure it's intentional.

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I wasn't called a crybaby for nothing 😂

I have natural curls and dark skin, so I am not sure how closely it resembles Cho Won child actress but it sure resembled me as a kid. I had them because my aunt bought it for me and said "looks just like the crybaby you are" good old days 😆

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Love the way this show is both surprising and predictable in all the best ways. I guess that's one of the main pluses of a 12 episode drama: there's no time to mess around. Cho-won finding out and (adorably) embracing the truth, Do-yoon overhearing and dismissing the truth, and Seo-ha instinctively knowing but refusing to acknowledge that same truth--it all makes sense based on what we know of these characters so far, and keeps the narrative tension building in a delicious way.

The reveal about Do-yoon's father being the driver, and that the likely culprit of this whole thing is directly connected to Seo-ha's father, wasn't that shocking but it still made for good drama. I also really loved Do-yoon's scene with Cho-won in the hotel lobby. It was a satisfying reversal of the gender dynamics we often see at play in scenes like this, where the woman has to worry about how even her most innocent, helpful actions towards a man with more money or in a position of power will be perceived as naked attempts to exploit that same man. Again, it's no surprise here that the obstacle to them getting together is not Do-yoon's lack of feelings, but his social position and his perception of its significance, but I still found his explanation to be poignant and legitimate. And those close-ups of him clenching his fist whenever Cho-won is disappointed or hurt just kill me.

The central romance is also good, and I like the way Seo-ha is a beta hero and someone everyone wants to protect and yet still able to physically and emotionally able to defend himself when need be. He deftly handled both the loan sharks and Ji-eum's loser of a brother.

I can, however, feel that we're building to some type of tragedy and deep regret on Ji-eum's part for making herself such an integral part of her loved one's lives. Things are surely about to come to a head with Ji-eum's niece/aunt, and I've grown so fond of their relationship that I can't help but be worried about the fallout. But again, I trust the show to balance out the sadness, and like DaebakGrits, also can't wait to find out what happens next.

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I too am pretty sure that the ending will be "bittersweet." Right now I'd wager Ji-eum will leave after discovering her revelations are harming her loved ones, but also having cured Seo-ha and allowing him to fight his evil Dad, and encouraging and the relationship of Cho-won and Do-Yoon.

But I'm not seeing a true reversal of gender dynamics. The women are there to heal the men. That's pretty standard romance fare. Also, it is true the women are the aggressive pursuers, but you can look at it another way-- despite having done nothing to encourage it, except some very ambiguous fist clenching and melancholy sitting at the bottom of the pool, two guys have beautiful women openly expressing their love. If anything, its kind of a male fantasy.

Also, while Seo-ha's trauma is perfectly understandable--it should be--we've been told 10 times that his friends dead body was lying on him, plus we've seen it at least once, maybe twice an episode--I still think he is far too passive when it comes to the romance.

I'm sure the reincarnation theme will emerge more fully later on, but still something more has to be drawn from that, otherwise what's the point of the fantasy? Maybe future episodes will also explain Ji-eum's love better than a somewhat strange fixation of a 15 year old girl with an 11 year old boy.

But, and this is my final point of disagreement with you, I don't necessarily trust the show to balance this all out. There have been scenes, like the crying children of past lives, like Ji-eum kind of writhing around in the street light when she imagined explaining it all to her Mom, and then this most recent dancing on the beach scene, that are not organic to the story but instead feel falsely sentimental and manipulative to me, put in there just so we'd say "this story is so emotionally meaningful."

But, we'll see--maybe after more episodes I'll be in more agreement with your high opinion of the show. I'm always interested in reading your responses!

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Fair point on the gender dynamics not being truly reversed; I guess I just grasp at anything that hints at subversion and probably am giving too much credit for too little deconstruction. But I still loved that exchange between Do-yoon and Cho-won in the hotel lobby. It could also be the case that I just listened to an excellent podcast lambasting "The Rules," which, as many may remember, centers on the idea that all men really want is a passive, mysterious, and aloof woman who never expresses her own desires. That might explain my (probably undeserved) praise for any show appearing to undermine that depiction of a man's ideal woman.

But I'd be completely and utterly shocked if this show ended with Ji-eum and Seo-ha apart (and for anyone who has read the webtoon and is tempted to either back me up or shoot me down, please don't! I want to wait and see what the show does). It might be bittersweet in terms of Ji-eum's relationships with her mom and niece/aunt (I suspect there will be sad endings to both of them) but the tone, and slow pace at which Ji-eum and Seo-ha are traveling the road to coupledom, suggest to me that they will end up together in some form at the end.

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Off topic, but I didn't know of The Rules, which was very fortunately published after I was married for a number of years. Otherwise, would I have had to deal with women I was romantically interested in behaving in a way that would have made me suspicious and mistrusting? (Probably not, because passive and aloof is one of my least favorite personality types, so I would never have approached them.)

Speaking of untrustworthy, but interesting in terms of standard kdrama romances like this one, I just read a New York Times opinion piece that argued that heterosexual men are appropriating the language of therapy to woo women, figuring that showing their psychological vulnerability will make them more attractive. So they've learned their lessons from kdramas!

In thinking about this as an older man, I suppose its a welcome change from attempted macho stoicism. On the other hand, it is still the case that most men in the U.S. and in Korea have it easier both in growing up and in making a living.

So I have a hard time with this extremely commonplace trope of traumatized kdrama male characters, who at a certain point should just go see a therapist and not burden their female love interests with their psychological issues. Still, I hope I have explained my difficulty in a way that shows my emotional vulnerability, illustrating that though of an older generation, I really have the reincarnated soul of a younger man!

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I agree, I think that the drama seems focused on everything but the main romance. As a result the romance is suffering. The drama is a lot sadder and darker than the comic and I don't think it's working. I also don't trust them to balance it well, the comic did but the drama is adding so much unnecessary angst

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The romance continues to be bland and the weakest link for me of the story,i totally sway more at Do-yoon & Cho Won's story arc... I'm actually quite happy they added the line were her meddling with the people and exposing her past life causing real consequences,makes it for a more meaty treat and hope we won't get the easy and clear cut resolutions but i doubt this will truly happen...Now we are sure the dancer girl is Seo Ha's Mom in her past life yet she keeps tabs from afar while she continues living her current life free of obsessions unlike our heroine...
It’s obvious Ji Eum’s Dad was the truck driver from back then….Curious how these threads tie little by little in this twisted ways,like even if she reincarnated so fast she doesn't have it easy at all and gets this blocks...

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So Seo-ha was angry with Do-yoon keeping his father's story a secret from him, and Do-yoon was mad because he himself didn't say it out until now? Since it seems like he has come to term with the death of his father, and accepted that it is a accident over the years. Then even if their fight was a form of nonverbal communication, I don't find it understandable that Do-yoon threw the first punch to Seo-ha, who didn't do anything wrong, no?

It's also a chain reaction: being ridiculed by the other chaebol jerk for being Seo-ha's secretary isn't anything new to Do-yoon, but this time Cho-won was there to see it (and wrist-grabbed him out too). Having to explain which he just wanted to ignore/treated like nothing (when it's really not), plus a bit of the reason he hided from her, did affect his usual calmness when being confronted by Seo-ha later. While compared to Seo-ha, he might have it easier as their little fight got something off his chest, rather than adding newly learnt sad truth in; I guess Do-yoon being shaken there will then lead to him let it slip more around Cho-won judging the preview for next week.
Sorry I can't help speculating since it's same clothes meaning same day(?). Like such an eventful day, starting around the stairwell scene.

Somehow I didn't think about it right away, but we're at halfway mark already. Similar to the webtoon, the drama gets to skip building foundation of the secondary romance (like what do they see in each other), and focus more on how it will progress instead. I like them quite a lot, both separately as characters, and together (I even like their Subway scene as I can feel some tension there). However will definitely keep my expectation in check for how their story will be handled, in case it won't really address their issue (the class divide) properly before having them get together.

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Is there someone here who knows Korean well enough to tell me what kind of accent is Ae-gyeong speaking with? It is the same one that Mu-deok spoke in AoS, and I'd really like to know what part of Korea it's from...

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Ep 5 - It's a kind of Subway Sandwich episode. You think there is some flavor but it's all artificial and bland. The opening promised so much more than just another forgettable fantasy romcom in which situations feel contrived and plot drowns in cliches.

Maybe the plot isn't even trying to be logical. Why is CW so obsessed with SH???? The drama is not playing with love triangle charade anymore. She was five, he was the best friend of her older sister and she died. That was that. Is there anything in the webtoon that explains her insane behavior? Maybe drama just forgot to explain? Everytime he is around her he is awkward, guilty and embarrassed. After yet another of those stupid moments between them she meets the secretary and what does he do? He invites her for a beach stroll with his poor boss! He is the secretary! She is not welcome! And then SHE invites the strange subordinate! The entire invitation parade and beach dancing was so absurd and forced that it almost made the horrible Vitamin PPL seem ordinary.

Speaking of the secretary, this is ep 5 and we have no idea why he is so cold to CW, there is no interest in what should be the second couple.

The two mysterious side characters had one liners and still managed to be cheesy.

The loan sharks, somehow, were the high note of that episode even though it's ridiculous that SH would follow them to an empty street, that he is a ninja, and that DH's little brother would arrive at that exact moment, hear them with his supersonic hearing, and have BJW's number.

Nobody knows why SH keeps being reminded of JW but at least CW had her reasons to be suspicious and maybe now that she knows her character can start being reasonable.

Ep 6 - This was miles better! The Cheesy Ones seem to be some kind of Fate Police and they can give a sort of danger element to the plot, which was really needed since the romances were so awkwardly developed. Secretary is finally becoming a real boy instead of a bot and CH now acts as a logical person. Forget the fact niece is sick because kdramas always kill any nice old character and try to forgive the huge stupid coincidences everywhere. Secretary's father was the driver and nobody knew! Sure, very likely. The loan shark harassing JW's brother knew all about the murder and confessed at the exact moment the brother was listening behind the door???? Even more likely! As side questions. Did he get that celadon appraised before signing that paper? Does she have a secret stash of them?

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In the webcomic she feels guilty bc of what she said about Ju-won dying bc of Seo-ha and thinks he blames himself bc of her. She wants to talk to him and work things out. The drama kinda showed it but imo didn't explain it the best. And Seo-ha avoids Cho-won bc she reminds him too much of Ju-won.

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She said that when she was a little kid. This is over 20 years later, she could not still feel guilty, mostly because she was a kid and he is non person in her life. He did not even live in the same country. He is almost a stranger and she stalks him. That her constant presence would remind him of JW is the only thing that could still make her feel guilty as an adult. It's like drama wants to pretend decades apart did not happen and they were still friends.

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I would normally agree, but guilt can be a very powerful thing. I also forgot to mention, the comic says that she also doesn't want things to be awkward with Seo-ha because he's close to Do-yun.

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The goryeo vase had my attention because I just saw several in Squad 38. I also wondered if she had hidden several celadons in a previous life.
But earlier in the drama, she went to her niece because she needed money. So she did not have investment-vases, or was too young to sell them ?

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Yes, it would have been a nice explanation! Vases, gold, jewels, she would or should have stashed something.

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I hope there are no plot twists during the Subway PPls because I skip them entirely.

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The sisters' interactions are indeed the highlight of the week, and unexpectedly brought some tears.

I also think that the mystery girl was Seo-ha's mom in her previous life. I wonder though if Seo Ha's mom deliberately approached Ju won's family then because she knew about Juwon. She and the part timer seems they have known each other all the way back too.

I think Seo Ha and Jieum falling in love is already a foregone conclusion so I dont mind the show not showing the progression of their feelings esp Seo Ha despite ABY's impressive performance here. I am more invested on how are they moving forward beyond the romance.

This endless cycle of remembering past lives had to end soon, as I am sure it affected how Ji-eum lived all her other lives and this one, too. It was mentioned in eps before that as soon as Juwon remembered her past lives at the resort, she had nightmares and her mother could hear her crying desperately that she wanted this to end as she had enough. The only difference in this 19th life is that she 'woke up' with a purpose.

So I am looking forward a real happy ending when she blissfully loses this 'ability' and just live life as Ji-eum (or maybe as her 20th life?). With or without Seo-ha, is also fine with me as long as Seo Ha and the rest get healed from their respective trauma as their hapoy ending, too. Hopefully no one dies, esp Ae-gyeong.

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Good call on Seoha’s mum approaching Jieum on purpose. I was thinking this was Seoha’s mum’s first time aware of her reincarnation, I am convinced she did not die of natural causes. She probably suspected Seoha would be lost and perhaps at risk so when she was told that Jieum was unusual by Jieum’s mum she knew she could hand over the care of Seoha as she knew she wasn’t an ordinary child and no one would suspect anything. It would make sense if she also had been through this process more than once and knew she could not be too close to Seoha to avoid hurting him. She didn’t expect Jiwon to die and then be in the same situation as her in terms of the risks if she told him who she was.

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Interesting theory about Seoha's mom purposely choosing Juwon because of their common past life knowledge, and that her death might also have been a murder. I hadn't considered these but they make sense.

I've wondered though since someone wanted Seoha dead, why did they not try again? He was still just a kid without power or protection. What changed?

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Two strong episodes.

Shin Hye-sun + Ahn Bo-Hun. I enjoy watching them work together. Good chemistry. Strong actors.

Speaking of strong actors. Ha Yoon-Kyun (Cho-won) never disappoints. HYK is long overdue a lead role.

Love the interweaving of the previous lives into the 19th life.

Recently discovered character Kim Ae-Gyeong (actress: Cha Chung-Hwa) was Court Lady Choi from Mr. Queen. Good to see these two actresses working together again.

Does anyone else think Ha-Na is reincarnation of Seo-Ha's mother?

Finally, those child actors are OUTSTANDING!!! All of them. I can't write that enough.

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Yes a group of us think Hana is Seoha’s mum reincarnated.

It is great to see the Mr Queen reunion😊

All of the children are amazing, I particularly love the actors playing the younger version of the sisters. The actor playing Chowon’s younger self has been really active she was great in Unlock my Boss and The good bad mother. The one playing Jieum is exceptionally good.

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The slip of the tonge in the starcase is in fact a strategy: with Cho-won declaration Do-yoon is tempted to forget everything that he heard. Or he will focus on this bit of the discussion.

As much as I like a good diction and vocabulary repetition to improve my learning, there was so many 갑자기 from all characters in ep 6 that it became distracting. I hope it's not a writer tic. (or that we will learn another adverb next week ?)

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They're adding so much stuff to make conflict lmao. You meet someone from your past life? Guess what, they're gonna DIE.
Plus part timer boy is in league with hip hop baddie... I wonder if the latter is Seoha's mom like everyone is saying. (In which case, sorry for calling your reincarnated mom hot, dude)

Regardless, none of this is in the webtoon! Just like the evil mistress! ( altho I guess they needed her as a red herring... the jerk dad is probably using her for his own ends... but still, she feels like a refugee from a drama like The Real has Come lol)

I wouldn't be mad if all these changes improved on the webtoon's story but like... None of this feels necessary, especially when the whole drama is just 12 eps

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Of the three dramas I'm watching this is the one I'm least invested in. The plot is just too silly, I don't believe any of these people exist. Whether they live happily ever after or get eaten by a space demon (or whatever the threat) I just don't care.

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Glad that you know this isn't your cup of tea at this mid-point 😊 I dropped some of the dramas only 3/4 of the way 😱

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I liked the first ep so much, I still care about leads but I have to thumbs up if you talk about space demons.

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I think it is safe to say that at least 90% of all k dramas , whether airing today or in the past - have characters who do not exist.

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I haven’t read all the comments. I’m a bad Beanie for that.

Even so, I just wanted to say, here, almost a week “late”…

I have a baaaad feeling about this.

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not sure if anyone will respond, but does anyone know the song that plays in episode 5 *after* the french song they dance to??

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It's L'amour, les baguettes, Paris by Stellar Jung, a Korean singer.

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